Re: OT: Google Plus invite link

[Stephen P Rufle]

I was able to get a goggle+ account. I have 150 invites. Ping me if you 
want to be invited.

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OT: Svn Renaming a file on windows with @20 in name

[Stephen P Rufle]

  
  
I am trying the following.
svn ren "4...@20hrs.jpg"
"48 hrs.jpg"

I get the following message
svn: '48' is not under version control

I would like to automate the task of renaming ~100 files. I was able
to use TortoiseSVN to do a single file manually, but am not sure how
to get this to work from the command line. 

Please help :)

If I need to do the renaming on a Linux box I can do that.


  

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Re: Stammtisch TONIGHT at NEW LOCATION

[Stephen P Rufle]

In the flyer it says Warner and Chandler. That is a true statement :), 
but I think you mean Warner and Ray.


http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=1371N+South+Alma+School+Road,+Chandler,+AZ&sll=33.324432,-111.857686&sspn=0.022233,0.035148&ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=1371+N+Alma+School+Rd,+Chandler,+Maricopa,+Arizona+85224&ll=33.326548,-111.858008&spn=0.06,0.017574&t=h&z=16

On 9/21/2010 9:29 AM, PLUG Announcements wrote:

The east-side Free Software Stammtisch will no longer be meeting at
Boulders on Broadway.

Starting tonight we will be meeting in the Banquet Room of Iguana Macks
(1371 N Alma School Rd, Chandler, Arizona 85224)

The banquet room is on the right hand side of the building in the back.
It's up 2 steps and through a set of double doors.

At the new location we'll have a private room so we won't have to shout,
high speed wireless (I tested it personally to 7Mbps), and most
importantly... tons of available parking (there is a lot of parking in
the back of the building that isn't obvious)! It's even got a screen for
a projector if we need it.

Food and drink, as always, will be optional, but I suggest you come
hungry as the food here is excellent. I suggest you try the calamari...
it's some of the best I've had.

I've attached a flier to pass out to anyone you know that might want to
come, and a copy of their current menu.

See you there,
Brian Cluff




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Re: Selling Linux on Startup?

[Stephen P Rufle]

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=meh
> Please forgive my slowness to get your meaning in this reply.
>
> What does "meh" mean?  I've not seen or heard that term before.
> Are you agreeing or disagreeing with Ariel's idea?
>
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Re: East side Stammtisch at NEW LOCATION

[Stephen P Rufle]

I live near ray and cooper. I generally show up around 7pm and leave 
around 9:30 PM. I can normally take one extra person.



On 8/23/2010 5:34 PM, Brian Cluff wrote:

I know there are people that usually show up that are willing to at
least get you to the nearest public transit location.

How about it?... Anyone willing to haul a person or two, to the rail on
their way out? I would be willing to do it myself, but the rail isn't
anywhere near my way home, and I'm quite often the last one to leave at
2 in the morning, so it wouldn't work timing wise.

Alternatively, is there any bus connections that someone could drop you by?

Admittedly, we did forget about looking for near by bus/train locations
when selecting this location. It's pretty much the perfect locations for
everything else we were looking for, and since it was extremely hard to
find any other locations that met the other basic criteria you really
can't blame us too much for overlooking public transportation.

Brian Cluff

On 08/23/2010 04:31 PM, William Lindley wrote:

Horrible location.

Can't get back from there on public transit.

Needs to be in downtown Tempe or Phoenix, preferably on the trolley line.

\\/


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Linux Gaming - Linux, the Numbers

[Stephen P Rufle]

These guys recently ported their game "Osmos" to Linux

Linux, the Numbers
http://www.hemispheregames.com/2010/06/23/linux-the-numbers/

Sounds like it was worth it from the article. Anyone play this game?
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OT: Google Voice available to everyone

[Stephen P Rufle]

http://www.google.com/googlevoice/about.html

Was talking to der.hans about this last week. He mentioned that it might 
be a while before it was out of beta :). Well look at that its available 
to everyone now.


I got a number that is 480 - XXX - JAVA.
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Re: Greetings

[Stephen P Rufle]

I like the Stammtisch's for meeting a greeting
http://www.lufthans.com/Free_Software_Stammtisch

On 6/11/2010 2:47 PM, ericall...@juno.com wrote:

Hello all, I just joined the group and thought I'd say hello and can't
wait to show up at one of the meetings. I'm currently working on a UBUNTU
9.10 system.
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Re: [Advocacy] iTWire - Taking the Ubuntu gospel to the Anime nation

[Stephen P Rufle]

Followup about the success of the event
http://blog.thesilentnumber.me/2010/04/thank-you-for-ubuntus-success-at-anime.html

On 11/29/2009 1:23 PM, Stephen P Rufle wrote:

http://www.itwire.com/content/view/29691/1141/

Thought it was interesting the "Ubuntu Massachusetts Local Community "
is trying to get a booth at a non tech event to expose people to Ubuntu.
Seems like a cool idea and  they have a funding drive.

http://blog.thesilentnumber.me/2009/11/can-ubuntu-reach-over-16000-anime.html
http://linuxfund.org/projects/ubuntu/

I gave my $20 to the cause :)

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Re: [Advocacy] iTWire - Taking the Ubuntu gospel to the Anime nation

[Stephen P Rufle]

Ryan Rix wrote:
> Ubuntu == religion?

Not religion, I just wanted to make people aware of the event. Its the 
"a rising tide lifts all boats" sort of thing. I remember hearing that 
phrase at Ableconf while we were all sitting around. Maybe if it goes 
well in MA someone would like to do it at a comicon or anime festival in 
AZ or CA (Mentioned CA because I have heard that one is even bigger then 
the AZ one).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_rising_tide_lifts_all_boats
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[Advocacy] iTWire - Taking the Ubuntu gospel to the Anime nation

[Stephen P Rufle]

http://www.itwire.com/content/view/29691/1141/

Thought it was interesting the "Ubuntu Massachusetts Local Community " 
is trying to get a booth at a non tech event to expose people to Ubuntu. 
Seems like a cool idea and  they have a funding drive.

http://blog.thesilentnumber.me/2009/11/can-ubuntu-reach-over-16000-anime.html
http://linuxfund.org/projects/ubuntu/

I gave my $20 to the cause :)

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[Advocacy] BEL Project. Business Edition Linux

[Stephen P Rufle]

http://linuxgeeksunited.blogspot.com/2009/11/where-linux-stands-to-make-huge-gains.html
http://belproject.org/

Read and comment. Seems oriented at the same demographic as ABLEConf. I 
think the idea of having a business oriented site might be a really good 
idea. Would you contribute if you had your own set of clients that you 
were already helping? Does this sort of site work against a small tech 
consultant? If they can find their own answers they may not call you.
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Re: OT: back on the bike kick (again)

[Stephen P Rufle]

XUNIL -> LINUX in reverse :)
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Re: Java web page key word search protocal

[Stephen P Rufle]

Would either of these fit the bill. I saw your comment about lucene, but 
I think Solr can be used as a tool to do what you want.
http://lucene.apache.org/solr/


Bryan O'Neal wrote:
> Ok, so I want to, with utmost efficacy, go through a web pages and ask 
> how many of a set of key words is in that web page. Does any one know of 
> a good open source tool for this?
> I have hundreds of web pages and a near equal number of key word sets so 
> scraping each page, parsing to create a vector of strings and doing a a 
> set of nested for loop to run through each vector and compare to words 
> in the key word vector is, well, FAR from efficient. 
> I heard of Apache velocity, but that seems to be for creating pages on 
> the fly. I also heard of Apache lucene, but appears to be for 
> implementing your own query engine on your application server 
> (to index and query your pages)
> 
> Also, if you know of a local ACTIVE java forum I would love to know 
> about it. I have subscribed to a half dozen lists and there is nothing 
> but silence.
> 
> Thanks a bunch :)
> 
> 
> 
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OT:Posting Style (was: Format)

[Stephen P Rufle]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style

I was unsure why it mattered, I looked it up. Thought it would be nice
to share with others that are maybe new to the community.
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Re: System 76, anyone hear of them?

[Stephen P Rufle]

No direct experience with system76, but zareason has great customer
service. Family owned, but I think they are large enough to provide
whatever you need even if it is not on their site call and ask.

http://www.zareason.com/shop/home.php

Stephen wrote:
> http://system76.com/index.php
> 
> Anyone hear of these guys, and their support quality?
> 

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Re: Linux in a Nutshell (O'Reilly book)

[Stephen P Rufle]

I would like to say O'Reilly also has http://my.safaribooksonline.com/
and I have found that to be useful. I got a full subscription, so I
could search and review on a monitor. I also sent them an email to
encourage them to get other publishers on their site that already
provide PDF versions of books.

In the end authors need to eat and humans seem to like the feel of
something in their hand. People (content producers) do not yet truly
believe they will make money from selling bits.
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OT: Hijacked botnet exposes startling online habits

[Stephen P Rufle]

http://www.pcpro.co.uk/news/252353/hijacked-botnet-exposes-startling-online-habits.html

Thought it was interesting in regards to security. I did not read the
pdf linked in the article, but it would be interesting to know what the
breakdown by OS is :). Or does it even matter if most info is actually
gotten through website exploits of some type.
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Re: Safe to remount live partition?

[Stephen P Rufle]

If you have good backups you can tell us if its safe after you have done
it. I never trust computers.

:)


Dayley, Alan wrote:
> So, I need to remount the file system at /var with the user_xattr
> option.  /var contains Samba shares, internal web sites, and other
> priceless data.  Oh, and LVM is involved here.
> 
> Is it safe to issue "mount -o remount,user_xattr
> /dev/VolGroup00/LogVol04" while in live use?
> 
> Color me skeptical.
> 
> Alan
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Re: O.T. email management ?

[Stephen P Rufle]

I think the next Eudora is going to be or currently is based on
Thunderbird.

https://wiki.mozilla.org/Eudora_Releases

Lyle Tuttle wrote:
> Eudora handles multiple accounts, then filters them wherever you want
> based on whatever you want.
> 
> Too bad Qualcomm bought them, and now no longer supports..but I'm
> hanging on 'till the end...
> 
> http://eudora.com/
> 
> lyle tuttle
> 
> At 02:48 PM 4/7/2009, you wrote:
>> Have them all forward to a single account and filter them to folders
>> based on what email address it was sent to. 
>> --
>> JD Austin
>> Twin Geckos Technology Services LLC
>> j...@twingeckos.com <mailto:j...@twingeckos.com>
>> 480.288.8195x201
>> http://www.twingeckos.com
>>
>>
>> Emo Philips
>> <http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/authors/e/emo_philips.html>  - "A
>> computer once beat me at chess, but it was no match for me at kick
>> boxing."
>>
>> On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 2:36 PM, Architect mike enriquez
>> mailto:myli...@cox.net>> wrote:
>>
>> I have several email accounts and I need to find a way to manage
>> them. I
>> wonder if anyone in the plug community has come up with a good way to
>> handle multiple accounts.
>> I can put them all on one computer, I can put each account on its own
>> computer. Next what should they all be using the same email
>> application
>> and which one is the best for multiple accounts?
>> Does anyone have a good idea on this?
>> Thanks
>> Mike Enriquez
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Re: Script to rename all filenames in a directory to use ALL CAPITAL LETTERS

[Stephen P Rufle]

This is how I was doing it before I saw the one liner


#!/usr/local/bin/python
# ren_to_upper.py
import os

for fname in os.listdir(os.getcwd()):
newfname = fname.upper()
os.rename(fname, newfname)

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Re: Script to rename all filenames in a directory to use ALL CAPITAL LETTERS

[Stephen P Rufle]

nice. I was just putzing with python to solve. :)

Charles Jones wrote:
> $ ls -l
> total 0
> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 2009-04-07 13:23 2009-4_5_WaDAq_a.Dn.23.f
> 
> for file in `ls`; do mv -v $file `echo $file| tr '[:lower:]' 
> '[:upper:]'`; done
> `2009-4_5_WaDAq_a.Dn.23.f' -> `2009-4_5_WADAQ_A.DN.23.F'
> 
> -Charles
> wayne wrote:
>> Its probably simple, but would take me a week
>>
>> Ie:
>> Make:   2009-4_5_WaDAq_a.Dn.23.f
>> INTO:   2009-4_5_WADAQ_ADN.23.F
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Re: tex2xxx tools in ubuntu

[Stephen P Rufle]

http://packages.ubuntu.com/intrepid/latex2html
http://packages.ubuntu.com/intrepid/texlive-latex-extra

used the http://packages.ubuntu.com/ facility.

I found it my self last night when I thought, how do I get the source
code for the "gnome games".

I was also unable to find a direct match for tex2pdf, but I only spent a
small amount of time looking.

Jerry Davis wrote:
> I feel pretty dang stupid asking this, but where the heck are the tex2ps,
> tex2html, tex2pdf, etc kind of tools?
> 
> I can't find them in synaptic package manager.
> 
> 

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Re: Free current issue Linux Format 24hrs!

[Stephen P Rufle]

This is from what was in the zip. It is for promoting their magazine,
but good for them.

You're probably wondering why we're doing this, and that's fair enough -
it's not something we've done before, and we may never do it again.

Well, we're doing it because sales of Linux Format shot up 13% last year
despite print magazines around the world suffering a decline, and we
want to thank everyone for their support by giving away this entire
magazine for free.

Enjoy it. Learn from it. Give it to your friends. Pass it around at your
user group.

If you want more, we hope you know where to go. After all, Linux Format
is available from all good news outlets worldwide every four weeks, or
you can subscribe and get it delivered to your door.

Speaking of subscriptions...

OK, so you didn't think we'd give away all this stuff without at least a
little prod to encourage folks to read the print magazine, did you?

If you want the cheapest way to read Linux Format every month, you can
subscribe today at http://tinyurl.com/podcastlxf for just US $99 for 13
issues - that's about 70 Euros if you live in Euroland, or about AUD
$150 if you live in Australia. UK readers can pay £11.99 every quarter.

If price is of less interest to you, try this subscription offer
instead, because it includes some awesome geek fridge magnets letting
you spell out shell commands, comedy phrases and more on any magnetic
surface.

Ryan Rix wrote:
> The link is a torrent though... Won't it still 'technically' be up
> afterwards?
> 
> On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 12:07 AM, Alan Dayley  <mailto:ala...@consultpros.com>> wrote:
> 
> http://www.tuxradar.com/content/linux-format-free-download-24-hours-only
> 
> "At 23:59:59 GMT March 4th we'll be taking down this link."
> 
> Get it if you like!
> 
> Alan
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Re: OK, a REAL Linux question... ; -) Ineeda"one-liner" (because I am lazy)

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> Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2009 4:58 PM
>>> To: Main PLUG discussion list
>>> Subject: Re: OK, a REAL Linux question... ; -) I needa"one-liner" 
>>> (because I am lazy) 
>>>
>>>>> *diff | wc -l* for each combination of file?
>>>>> have you tried ls -t, to see when the files were modified ?
>>> There are several hundreds of files in a 10-15 depth tree.
>>> That means that "ls -t" won't work, and firing a loop to diff each 
>>> one, to every other, will yield so many false positives that the 
>>> result (if found) will be lost in the noise. 
>>>
>>> It has to be some sort of "fuzzy" diff.
>>> I used to use a program called Uniquefiler that did that for pictures.  
>>> Sometimes it would come up with some very creative matching, but in 
>>> general it was an excellent program.
>>> I don't it need now, but I'd certainly like to know if someone knows 
>>> of a Linux variant.
>>> Thanks!   :)
>>> ET 
>>>
>>>
>>> Eric Cope writes:   
>>>
>>>> *diff | wc -l* for each combination of file?   
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 3:12 PM, Bob Elzer  wrote:   
>>>>
>>>>> No you don't qualify, this is the Phoenix List.   Just kidding.   
>>>>>
>>>>> have you tried ls -t, to see when the files were modified ?   
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -Original Message-
>>>>> From: plug-discuss-boun...@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us
>>>>> [mailto:plug-discuss-boun...@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us] On Behalf Of 
>>>>> kitepi...@kitepilot.com
>>>>> Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2009 2:25 PM
>>>>> To: Main PLUG discussion list
>>>>> Subject: OK, a REAL Linux question... ;-) I need a"one-liner" 
>>>>> (because I am
>>>>> lazy) 
>>>>>
>>>>> I have a bunch of text files.
>>>>> Makefile(s), that is.   
>>>>>
>>>>> I know that one of them (THERE ARE TONS!) was slightly modified.
>>>>> Names are meaningless, so it won't work.
>>>>> There are more changes that mere whitespaces, so diff -w ... won't 
>>>>> work either. 
>>>>>
>>>>> Question is:
>>>>> How do I find 2 files that are "almost" the same file?   
>>>>>
>>>>> I have thought of different approaches, but none of then are one-liners.
>>>>> Is there a one-liner for this?
>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>> Enrique 
>>>>>
>>>>> PS: I live in North West GA, play the worker in South Florida, drive 
>>>>> like a mailman and consider "the neighborhood" anything within 200
>> miles.
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OT: ie7 issue

[Stephen P Rufle]

If anyone knows css/HTML my friend needs help.

 Original Message 
Subject:ie7 issue
Date:   Fri, 27 Feb 2009 09:33:47 -0500
From:   Tony Guadagno 
To: 



 Hi,

I have a problem with IE (Firefox is not behaving this way). the site is

/_http://wwwstage.ultra-fei.com_/


If you go there, click on a top nav menu choice, then click on another top

level nav choice...then hit the back button. You should see both top level

nav choices highlighted. This does not happen if you repeat in Firefox and

does not seem to matter what menu choices you choose.


If you mouse over the choices, the ghost menu choices does not go away, but

if you right click on the page, the menu choice goes way..I am
pulling my

hair out.


If anyone could help or point me in the right direction, I would really

appreciate it.


also,

when i view source on the page, I see this

Code:


http://wwwstage.ultra-fei.com/index.php?page=sales_
/" >Sales



http://wwwstage.ultra-fei.com/index.php?page=support_
/" >Support




while both are showing highlighted (class=menuactive) only one actually
is in the source


thanks

tonyg is offline   Reply With Quote


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Re: Open Source CRM

[Stephen P Rufle]

I am currently doing development with Apache OfBiz
http://ofbiz.apache.org/

I have found the architecture of the system easy to work within for
custom development. Seems to have an active community and is only
becoming more active as people find out about it.
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Re: OT- Need Windows XP Login Help

[Stephen P Rufle]

Windows mail list...
http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/winnt-l.html

Snipped from Craig's email a couple of days ago.
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Re: OT:Exchange good

[Stephen P Rufle]

I think one main thing is "Either these things matter to your client or
they don't.". If there were a base product or a series of products that
just needed assembling to be as good or better then Exchange. I would
think a group of people could stitch it all together in a way that would
be sellable. Unfortunately I think there are some missing pieces.

I think a big set of use cases would be helpful. The other thing as a
developer that comes to mind is SVN being a better version of CVS. We
need free software version of exchange that from its beginnings was
designed by the hive mind :)

ex.
Should be able to be do online backups
Should be able to run as a cluster of machines so load could be distributed
... etc


What I think is that if there were the equivalent of Apache but in the
Collaboration space that would be great. All the current players I think
 are Commercial Open source that means they have investors or
shareholders to answer to. If there was a solution available I think
people such as Bryan could advocate using it in place of exchange.

Did this search
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&as_q=exchange+replacements&as_epq=&as_oq=&as_eq=&num=100&lr=&as_filetype=&ft=i&as_sitesearch=&as_qdr=y&as_rights=&as_occt=any&cr=&as_nlo=&as_nhi=&safe=images

Found
http://zarafa.com/
which is different from Zimbra do not know anything about it.

You also have these companies that have already written a bunch of stuff
and then decide to open source it. This generally does not work because
the requirements were gathered by a single company trying to solve a
problem on their own. I think Mozilla was mired with issues at first for
some of the same reasons.

> Either these things matter to you or they don't.
> 
> Craig
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Re: OT:Exchange good? - And the flame wars begin (Was:Re: new hotness?)

[Stephen P Rufle]

Would it be fair to say that MS keeps just enough of exchange or its
communication methods secret so that it is hard for others (OSS
projects) to create the same seamless integration available using the MS
native programs without buying a license for the secret technology .

It seems that the $1500 price makes it a great short term investment.
Then there is a constant pull to just use a ms solution because it plugs
in nicely.I see that as being what grates on folks.

Sort of related I heard that upcoming Samba 4 will be able to act as an
AD server will that continue to help with penetration into the
enterprise market?
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Re: new hotness?

[Stephen P Rufle]

Play with BSD or OpenSolaris
At the last Stammtisch we were talking about Myth TV and Squeeze Box
maybe that would be interesting.

Stephen wrote:
> I have been looking about for the new hotness as it were. and
> wondering what dis has something really groundbreaking that makes it
> worthwhile to look at.
> 
> I guess part of me is tired of the flavor of the month distributions
> that are essentially something else with a new look and a slightly
> different package base or whatnot.
> 
> for example Fedora Directory Server is very interesting to me, because
> whether we like it or not this will be a windows heavy world for some
> time. but what else is there that i cna really sink my teeth into. or
> even whats worth doing that with?
> 
> My personal list of Distributions i have spent some real quality time with
> 
> Ubuntu/Debian
> Fedora/Red Hat new and old/Centos
> Suse/Opensuse
> Gentoo
> 
> and a few other that more or less were a repackage of one of the above
> 
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Re: bulk rename pod1 > pod2 needed

[Stephen P Rufle]

Is there a way to single step bash script to inspect what is going on? I
have preferred python for this reason. I write what I think will work in
eclipse and then run it once single stepping in debug mode to make sure
what I meant is what is actually happening.


Joe wrote:
> That is what my script does. The sort -rn -k 1.9 says, sort reverse 
> numeric with key 1 character position 9. I also check to make sure that 
> another file is not dropped in there during processing of the script.
> 
> 
> Dazed_75 wrote:
>>
>> On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 5:33 PM, Dennis Kibbe 
>> mailto:denn...@sdf.lonestar.org>> wrote:
>>
>> Can someone suggest a way to rename a directory of files like this:
>>
>> ccna.pod1.pc1.ext is renamed to ccna.pod2.pc1.ext
>> ccna.pod2.pc1.ext is renamed to ccna.pod3.pc1.ext
>>
>> and so on.
>>
>> (Aside: Hans, if I were able to take your scripting class I won't
>> be asking this now. :-)
>>
>> Dennisk
>>
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>> Actually, if the original specification is correct, probably none of 
>> the solutions proposed is likely to work.  It appears that the target 
>> name for the first rename is the same as the source for the second.  
>> If this were true one would have to ensure that rename or move 
>> operations were done in an order to avoid attempts to overwrite 
>> existing names.
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OT: Could a Blog have prevented a fraud

[Stephen P Rufle]

http://money.cnn.com/2009/02/04/news/newsmakers/madoff_whistleblower/

The question I want to pose is if the whistle blower first tried to
contact the SEC, but was given the brush off. Could that whistle blower
posted what he knew to a personal blog that might have been picked up by
say digg. This in my mind could have prevented many years of the scheme.
I am just unsure if there are reasons other then when the guy might have
started all of this (2000) the net may not have been as mature.

What do you think?
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Re: Google Problem 1/31

[Stephen P Rufle]

Try to make it to a
Free Software Stammtisch (Tempe/Avondale)

http://plug.phoenix.az.us/meetings/info

Not everyone is a hater :)
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Re: [Article] Cox ready to throttle P2P, non "time sensitive" traffic

[Stephen P Rufle]

There was an interesting article in Wired about Comcast seems they had
to learn how to be an ISP instead of a dumb pipe Cable TV provider

http://www.wired.com/techbiz/people/magazine/17-02/mf_brianroberts

We as a group are VERY vocal minority. Most people would not even know
or even be effected by Shaping or Rate limiting. I am glad though that
the group exists, we are like a consumer advocate for all the people
that do not know any better.
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[Article] Cox ready to throttle P2P, non "time sensitive" traffic

[Stephen P Rufle]

http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2009/01/cox-opens-up-throttle-for-p2p-non-time-sensitive-traffic.ars
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Re: OT: Microsoft layoffs

[Stephen P Rufle]

> For most people, a P4 running XP is all they will need for the rest
> of their life in all honesty, until the machine dies on them.


That means that once you get a person to go with an FLOSS solution they
also will not stray. I would also be interested to know if those SSD in
netbooks will make it so the hardware will last longer. I have had a
number of my HD's expire.
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Re: Anybody experienced with Sidux?

[Stephen P Rufle]

I have not verified, but I think that if you are adding a more stable
repo to an unstable Debian box. Then no issues should arise since if it
is in a more stable repo it has already been tested thoroughly in order
to graduate to the more stable repo.

Jim March wrote:
> On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 3:32 PM, Stephen  wrote:
>> will it by default, i am not sure, however i know you can start
>> opening other branches in the apt configuration. so they become
>> available... i think if you look into something like aptitude it will
>> even rate them.
> 
> I know it can do that.  Question is, will doing so hose anything else?
> 
> Put another way: in a pure Debian Sid setup, can you also have either
> testing, stable or both repos?
> 
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Re: OT: Fwd: linux commercial

[Stephen P Rufle]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uLbJ8YPHwXM
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OT: CSS expert needed

[Stephen P Rufle]

I have a friend who is doing a contract job.

please reply to to...@guadagno.org

He needs help modifying css styles for http://www.cmsmadesimple.org/

He is willing to discuss pricing, so its a paying gig.
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Linux - [Follow up] Stop holding our kids back

[Stephen P Rufle]

http://linuxlock.blogspot.com/2008/12/character-assasinations-aint-us.html
Follow up from the storm that raged about that Texas teacher.

http://digg.com/linux_unix/Linux_Stop_holding_our_kids_back

Interesting article about how a teacher took away Linux disks from a kid
who was passing them out.


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Re: OT: Linux - Stop holding our kids back

[Stephen P Rufle]

ike some kind of institutional name (but you can't
> >> make out what it is). Ive seen totally false stories like this
> >> propagate through the net, so I have my doubts.
> >>
> >> -jmz
> >>
> >> >
> >> > I think it's a barrier to spreading free software when its
> advocates are
> >> > poor at making a point non-technical people will understand and
> relate
> >> > to.
> >> > That was the point of my initial comment, and I think valid
> regardless
> >> > of
> >> > the underlying facts of this particular story. Don't tell
> people why
> >> > they're wrong/misguided/stupid. It only turns people off. Focus on
> >> > what's
> >> > good about what you're doing, not what's bad about what they're
> doing.
> >> >
> >> > alex
> >> >
> >
> > Yes it's an urban anti-technology myth, cleverly posted here by
> trolls!
> 
>  awesome picture.  I wonder if those things are genetically related
> to Furbys.
> 
>  an interesting thing I've noticed in recent years is that 'troll'
> has come to be used interchangeably with 'someone who doesnt agree
> with me'.
> 
>  -jmz
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OT: Linux - Stop holding our kids back

[Stephen P Rufle]

http://digg.com/linux_unix/Linux_Stop_holding_our_kids_back

Interesting article about how a teacher took away Linux disks from a kid
who was passing them out.


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Linux Commercial

[Stephen P Rufle]

Link to commercial
http://www.hotlinkfiles.com/files/1961446_491qa/iyccradio.mp3

The actual site that sells the computers
http://www.iycc.net/cuadrado-system

Background info
http://linuxlock.blogspot.com/2008/10/leave-it-to-little-guys.html


thought it was nice to hear a radio commercial about Linux
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Re: OT: I've Been Burgled!

[Stephen P Rufle]

I like what I see at Adeona. I would like to point out, that even with
this if your criminal is smart enough to wipe the drive. You may never
find it, but I think like a car lock, it is certainly better then not
having it.

I really like the pics at the bottom of the site for the Mac OS X
version :)
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Re: OT: I've Been Burgled!

[Stephen P Rufle]

http://www.lojackforlaptops.com/

Has anyone actually used this. I only found out about it after I bought
my last laptop. Seems to be good for cars, but for a laptop how easy
would it be to turn it off or find whatever makes the signal?

Otherwise I after hearing about Tuna I am thinking this would be cheap
insurance for the aggravation I know I would suffer if some one took my
computers.

Tuna if you need to borrow a laptop for some period, I have a Dell D600
I could let you borrow till you get a new one.
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Re: OT: where to get gmail help?

[Stephen P Rufle]

> Can anyone point me to a good place to get gmail help?
>

http://mail.google.com/support/?ctx=gmail&hl=en&labs=1
http://mail.google.com/support/bin/topic.py?topic=12853

:)

Josef Lowder wrote:
> Can anyone point me to a good place to get gmail help?
> 
> I can't get some filters to work -- specifically, I am trying to have
> certain items addressed to a certain specific email address
> forwarded to another email address, but it won't work.
> 
> Also, is there any way to set certain filter subjects (words)
> to entirely delete -- i.e. "delete forever" offensive garbage
> (profanity, male enhancement, etc.) rather than just send it to trash.
> 
>  I'm getting about 250 such garbage items in trash every day and
> that creates a huge problem because I still have to scan through the
> trash folder to make sure that something important didn't go into there.
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Re: I need help. And I hope I don't offend anyone...

[Stephen P Rufle]

Do you still need help with this? I live in Chandler, so I could drop by
your mother in law's.

Stephen P Rufle
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Hello group: 
> 
> This is the short story:
> I live in Georgia (see http://hangglide.com/  :) and my mother in law lives 
> in Chandler. 
> 
> I set up for her a Linux computer that may have a hardware problem. 
> 
> She has some limitations that prevent her from reaching the back of the 
> computer and plugging and unplugging cables. 
> 
> I called the "Geek Squad" for help and they are more than willing to bill me 
> $250 to get there and tell me if they can boot (or not) the computer from a 
> CD. 
> 
> I need someone to visit her, diagnosis whether we have a hardware problem 
> and if not, boot the machine with an Ubuntu CD (or whatever) so I can SSH 
> into and fix any other issue.
> I'll be more than willing to return the favor with flight instruction, 
> anything from a hang glider to a twin engine...   :)
> Thanks!
> Enrique A. Troconis 
> 
> PS: I can also help anyone with some "geeky" Linux stuff...
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Re: OT.. ADVICE: HP or Macbook

[Stephen P Rufle]

+1 mac
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OT: ZaReason_and_Other_Independents_Outshine_the_Big_Boys

[Stephen P Rufle]

Please help if you can :)

Subject:ZaReason_and_Other_Independents_Outshine_the_Big_Boys
Date:   Thu, 4 Sep 2008 14:59:46 -0700
From:   Earl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Anyone wanna give Za some diggs?
http://digg.com/linux_unix/ZaReason_and_Other_Independents_Outshine_the_Big_Boys


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Re: KDE 4 and Kubuntu?

[Stephen P Rufle]

I met the people behind zareason at lindependence in CA, and they are
quality people for Linux. Ubuntu is their preferred distro and they seem
to feed back into the community. I originally heard about them when I
was looking for a someone to sell me a MythTV turnkey setup. Not sure if
they still have that available, but they answered my questions quickly
and honestly (I had asked if it was turn key enough that I could give to
my wife and have her just use it the way she did with the Tivo. He told
me no , which what I suspected).

Joshua Zeidner wrote:
>   Buying from these small dealers can be a total nightmare.  I took a look
> at their return policy:
> 
>   "If you get it and decide that it's just too different from Windows or Mac
> for your liking (or for any reason) feel free to return it within 30 days
> for a refund. Note that there is a 15% restocking fee on all returns."
> 
>   -jmz
> 
> On Mon, Aug 25, 2008 at 8:08 PM, Dan Lund <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:
> 
>> And on that road, I figure I'll share something I ran across in my
>> google advertisements which caught my eye.
>> A $299 Ubuntu computer...
>> 2ghz cpu, 1gb ram, 160gb sata drive, nvidia 6100 video card, etc..
>> figured I'd share.
>> http://www.zareason.com/shop/product.php?productid=16183
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Dan Lund
>> It is necessary for him who lays out a state and arranges laws for it
>> to presuppose that all men are evil and that they are always going to
>> act according to the wickedness of their spirits whenever they have
>> free scope.
>> -Niccolo Machiavelli
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Aug 25, 2008 at 8:02 PM, Dan Lund
>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>> OH wow, a totally different world for me, then...
>>> Though it's a good thing they've gone down that road.  I've learned
>>> something new today, I feel smart :)
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Dan Lund
>>> It is necessary for him who lays out a state and arranges laws for it
>>> to presuppose that all men are evil and that they are always going to
>>> act according to the wickedness of their spirits whenever they have
>>> free scope.
>>> -Niccolo Machiavelli
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Aug 25, 2008 at 6:10 PM, Ted Gould <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>> Dan Lund wrote:
>>>>> Pretty much if RHEL does it, CentOS does it, so hardware compatibility
>>>>> and service level is equal.
>>>>> Okay, so Ubuntu sounds like it was started as a desktop distribution
>>>>> geared towards eye candy.  Thanks for sharing, I appreciate it.
>>>>>
>>>> I would say it a little differently.  Ubuntu is designed for consumer
>>>> level users.  It's goals are to be simple to install and configure --
>>>> not something that requires a manual, but we try to keep a good one of
>>>> those too.  For instance, the Ubuntu installer doesn't ask if you want
>>>> to install development packages.  We assume that your Grandmother would
>>>> be confused by the question and you can use the application installer.
>>>>
>>>> Some other Ubuntu core values are a predictable release cycle (every 6
>>>> months) and significant community participation (vs. something like
>> RHEL).
>>>> --Ted
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Re: Seriously...not a joke

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100 Grand hope the Apache people can put it to good use.
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Re: Dell 600m

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I was able to get Dale to take it off my hands. Contact him to see if he
is parting it out now ;) any profit should be shared with the fine local
OSS community.

Stephen P Rufle wrote:
> I have a Dell Inspiron 600m. The power connector has went bad. I am
> parting it out in the east valley. Ray & Cooper take it for free or give
> some $$. If you generally make it to Stammtische I would bring it
> boulders to show off its brokeness :) It has a new battery, and if you
> broke your LCD it would probably be good for a replacement.
> 
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Dell 600m

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I have a Dell Inspiron 600m. The power connector has went bad. I am
parting it out in the east valley. Ray & Cooper take it for free or give
some $$. If you generally make it to Stammtische I would bring it
boulders to show off its brokeness :) It has a new battery, and if you
broke your LCD it would probably be good for a replacement.


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Wireless card

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Does anyone have a wireless card that they could part with. I need
PCMCIA wireless card for a Dell Inspiron 5000e.

kids has Kubuntu 8.04 installed already, so I would prefer if we could
just put it in and have it work without "NDIS wrapper" but whatever.

I am on the east side near Ray and Cooper.

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Re: Ubuntu and hardware vendors

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http://www.zareason.com/shop/home.php

I talked with these people while I was in CA. They are good people and
said that they go the extra mile to make sure their hardware is Linux
compatible and Ubuntu is there preferred distro.



der.hans wrote:
> moin moin,
> 
> http://webapps.ubuntu.com/certification/
> 
> I don't see anything listing what certified and compatible mean.
> 
> It also appears that the list isn't updated to the vendor page for Dell.
> System76 doesn't have a vendor page on Ubuntu's site. I didn't check the
> others.
> 
> http://www.ubuntu.com/dell
> 
> That page only mentions 7.10. Maybe Dell hasn't moved on to 8.04. That's
> OK for now, but I hope they move to the LTS release.
> 
> It would be nice if either certified or compatible means that all of the
> hardware works using Free Software drivers.
> 
> ciao,
> 
> der.hans

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OT: Linux.com :: In memoriam: Linux evangelist and Linux.com editor Joe Barr

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http://www.linux.com/feature/141548

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Re: external HD suggestions

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Wrong thread ?

"external HD suggestions" was about HD == Hard Drive
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West side Stammtisch

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Hans asked some of the east side regulars to come by this month to show
our support of your Stammtisch. I will try this month.

If it becomes a regular event for me, someone will have to get me a
smoking deal on a scooter, electric car, or car pool with me.

:)


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Re: Icann and new TLD's

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Not sure how this is related , but didn't Icann veto teh .xxx tld. Does
this mean now that the adult entertainment industry could now pool funds
to get the xxx domain.

I like your nike shoes example.

Others
mc.donalds
kickass.music
blockbuster.movie

[distro_name].linux



Charles Jones wrote:
> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/7475986.stm
> 
> Icann, voted unanimously to relax the strict rules on so-called 
> "top-level" domain names...
> 
> Under the new plans, domain names can be based on any string of letters, 
> in any script.
> 
> Individuals will be able to register a domain based on their own name, 
> for example, as long as they can show a "business plan and technical 
> capacity".
> 
> I wonder how long before we start seeing domains like http://nike.shoes 
> and the like. I wonder how many email and domain parsing scripts this is 
> going to break, especially domain names with asian and arabic characters.
> 
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Re: Cisco VPN Client for Linux

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My test case was really using kvpnc to import a pcf file from the client
I had on windows. So I want to let people know that I can say it IS
possible.

David Huerta wrote:
>> I also need a Cisco VPN client for Linux. I was able to connect to the
>> server I needed to after installing kvpnc. I am sure vpnc can do the same.
>>
> 
> hmm... I tried connecting with vpnc just now and it spit back a "vpnc:
> server requested domain, but none set (use "Domain ..." in config or
> --domain".  Do I have to set some sort of domain locally to use this?
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Re: Cisco VPN Client for Linux

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I also need a Cisco VPN client for Linux. I was able to connect to the
server I needed to after installing kvpnc. I am sure vpnc can do the same.


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Digg and /. for the Merc story?

[Stephen P Rufle]

Could the PLUG digg us :)

hi

For those who do not already know, the Digg story now has 22 Diggs, so
please go here and vote if you have not done so already:

http://digg.com/linux_unix/Lindependence_2008_aims_to_Free_Felton_from_Microsoft

and the Slashdot story is orange in the Firehose, which is actually the last
color before red (red makes the front page):

http://slashdot.org/firehose.pl?op=view&id=750265

see you

-- 
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OT: Eclipse Stammtisch

[Stephen P Rufle]

http://dev.eclipse.org/blogs/wayne/2008/06/26/stammtisch-at-the-hotel-krone-in-stuttgart-july-3rd/

Only place I have ever seen the word Stammtisch used other then our
monthly get together's :)
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Re: Anyone using slicehost?

[Stephen P Rufle]

After you were at my house I looked into them for hosting
http://www.lindependence.net/

so put me in :)

Matt Graham wrote:
> If anyone on the list is using slicehost, please say something to me.  I'm 
> going to buy a slice from them, and would like to put *someone* down in 
> the "referral" field to spread the wealth a bit
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OT: Firefox 3 was mentioned on Colbert

[Stephen P Rufle]

Choose "Jonathan Zittrain"
http://www.comedycentral.com/colbertreport/videos.jhtml?episodeId=173608

He mention Firefox 3, midway through the interview. Thought it was cool.


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Lindependence 2008

[Stephen P Rufle]

This is what I was talking about at the Stammtische
http://faq.fixedbylinux.com-a.googlepages.com/lindependence2008-bringinglinuxtothemass

If you want updates about these guys are doing feel free to ask to be 
added to
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

I am not sure its a real mailing list, like the plug.

and an FYI

I secured
LINDEPENDENCE.*
LINDEPENDENCE2008.*

So if someone would like to host or help Larry and Ken get a proper 
website setup I am sure they would more then willing to have the help.

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Re: It's download Firefox day!

[Stephen P Rufle]

http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox?p=downloadday

Just got the email, maybe they were setting up before this, and that is 
why we could not get to the usual places.

Josh Coffman wrote:
> i don't know if the update is available via repositories. I've heard
> that is is on public ftp's but the firefox page still hasn't updated
> to link to ff3.
> 
> http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/ (which i currently can't get to)
> 
> 
> On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 10:37 AM, Charles Jones
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> http://www.spreadfirefox.com/en-US/worldrecord
>>
>> I can't even get to the above URL...I guess they are getting DOS'd by
>> downloads...I wonder if "yum update" counts :)
>>
>> -Charles
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Re: remove linux from dual boot machine?

[Stephen P Rufle]

http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/linux-tutorials-howtos-reference-material/9921-uninstalling-linux.html

I think this tells you how to do it.

mike enriquez wrote:
> I need some guidance on how to remove Mandriva Linux from my dual boot 
> computer. The second os is Winxp and I cannot remember how to do it. 
> I remember one time I used partion magic to clean out the linux drives but 
> then xp would not boot. I remember I  used the install cd to repair the 
> winxp. 
> I believe I had to replace the MBR file but I am not sure. 
> Has anyone on the list done this recently.  And/Or do you have a better way 
> of doing this.
> Thanks
> Mike Enriquez
> 
> 
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Re: OT: need some help with fuel cells

[Stephen P Rufle]

I remember reading about this guy in Wired magazine.
http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/15.03/play.html?pg=9
http://www.siei.org/mainpage.html

The cost of his system seem a bit high, but maybe it would be a good 
place to start for the feasibility of different ideas.


Technomage-hawke wrote:
> ok,
> I know some of you are engineering types.
> 
> I am starting to look at the idea of home building a fuel cell here that can 
> power my machines "off the grid" if need be. I am not worried about the fuel 
> source itself (hydrogen can be easily got with some solar cells, graphic 
> electrodes and starage media). What I am worried about is this:
> 
> 1. Building one cheaply
> 2. available materials (preferably from lowe's or home depot) with the 
> exception of the electrolytic material and possibly the catalyst materials)
> 3. a method of containment (A good quality housing that will keep the 2 parts 
> of the fuel seperate until introduced into the catalyzing chamber)
> 
> any other suggestions that would help.
> 
> In a way, this would be a different sort of open source project. I am not 
> looking to make this proprietary and would love to have a means of backup 
> power for extended periods (especially considering how expensive electricity 
> and natural gas are going to get in the not too distant future).
> 
> any good ideas will help. I'd like to be able to engineer and assemble a 
> small 
> test unit in my garage with only a minimal of technical know-how (I can learn 
> if I have to).
> 
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Drupal help

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Anyone on the list have mad Drupal skills :)

I am creating an online commerce site and would like to use Drupal to 
put the site together. First are there good books to read, or are most 
of the books just rehashes of what is available online. Second if 
someone has mad skill, would that person be willing to tutor me for an 
exchange of dinner at some later date.

My current list of possible issues.

* theming - I know enough how to install new ones , but what do I do if 
  I like most of a theme but need something specific ( does it require a 
little or a lot of PHP experience)
* product catalog / shopping cart - I currently only have a single 
product but hope to add more, is there a known leader in product catalog 
and/or shopping carts
* general gotchas - what should I be aware of as I start ( any advice on 
security, how to admin Drupal so the finished site is structured 
logically anything like that)

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Re: OT: sun 420r

[Stephen P Rufle]

... or try to beat me up and steal it from me.
we would need a pic before choosing what route to take. I do not want to 
get there and find out you look like this guy :)

http://dpawsey.tripod.com/scarymofo.jpg

jordi laforge wrote:
> I've got a Sun 420R taking up too much space in my garage. It's gotta go.
> Buy, trade or try to beat me up and steal it from me.
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Disk encryption may not be secure enough, new research finds

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http://www.news.com/8301-13578_3-9876060-38.html?tag=nefd.lede

In Linux would an effective counter to this type of attack be scrabbled 
the RAM on shutdown? I also am not sure if the people that steal laptops 
would have the skills to do what the researchers are doing.
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Re: Dare I Ask...

[Stephen P Rufle]

Sorry thought "REALbasic Personal Edition" was an OSS version that 
allowed you to learn and if you wanted to release a version you may have 
to buy it. I see that it is not the case.

I agree with a later post about VM'ing windows or ReactOS and installing 
   the real version of VB.

Stephen P Rufle wrote:
> http://www.realbasic.com/
> 
> See if you can run your project in it. I am not sure if all the syntax 
> is the same, but you can tell me :)
> 
> 
> Tuna wrote:
>> Has anyone ever had any success installing Visual Basic on Linux? I am 
>> running Kubuntu Feisty and Wine just doesn't like it... And I'm trying 
>> to install Visual Studio 6.0 Visual Basic.
>>
>> I know about Gambas, and I use it quite a bit. But I want something that 
>> will be 100% compatible with what we have at school.
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Re: Dare I Ask...

[Stephen P Rufle]

http://www.realbasic.com/

See if you can run your project in it. I am not sure if all the syntax 
is the same, but you can tell me :)


Tuna wrote:
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> running Kubuntu Feisty and Wine just doesn't like it... And I'm trying 
> to install Visual Studio 6.0 Visual Basic.
> 
> I know about Gambas, and I use it quite a bit. But I want something that 
> will be 100% compatible with what we have at school.
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Re: contract - RS485 cmds - VS/Java

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For Java
http://www.freshports.org/comms/rxtx
http://forum.java.sun.com/thread.jspa?threadID=706800&messageID=4100548

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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> Studio or Java?  My employer is looking for a contractor to help build a 
> conveyor belt.
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Re: Common bash aliases

[Stephen P Rufle]

The following is the summarization from what I got from the group
http://wiki.sabayonlinux.org/index.php?title=Tips#Useful_aliases

Feel free to either edit it directly on their site or reply and I will 
try to modify.


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Common bash aliases

[Stephen P Rufle]

I Googled  "common bash aliases"

http://www.hypexr.org/bash_tutorial.php

seemed to have a short list

alias ls='ls -aF --color=always'
alias ll='ls -l'
alias search=grep
alias mcd='mount /mnt/cdrom'
alias ucd='umount /mnt/cdrom'
alias mc='mc -c'
alias ..='cd ..'
alias ...='cd ../..'

The first 2 and the last 2 I have seen used by Matt G while helping me 
at my house. I would like to know what are other people's favorites.

I will most likely take the list and add something about common aliases to
http://wiki.sabayonlinux.org/index.php?title=Tips
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Re: OT: Digg - Open DS Governance Issues

[Stephen P Rufle]

Yeah I just wanted to see what people thought about the issues that came 
up. I saw commentary about just forking the OpenDS proj , but was unsure 
if that was even possible. I am currently a Java developer and hope that 
this was an isolated incident that will put pressure on Sun to better 
educate the staff about open source. Sort of the way that "Sensitivity" 
training is probably mandatory.


Craig White wrote:
> On Mon, 2007-12-03 at 16:52 -0700, Stephen P Rufle wrote:
>> http://digg.com/linux_unix/Open_DS_Governance_Issues
> ---
> I presume that this was tossed to the list for commentary but it's
> possible that the intent was to smear Sun for heavy handedness (although
> that is not entirely unexpected). It would seem that some middle manager
> at Sun made a cost cutting move and there was little consideration to
> the impact on the ramifications of that move and this project is likely
> to languish - read the backstory...
> 
> http://www.linuxworld.com/news/2007/112907-sun-opends.html
> 
> I think that this story revolves around the issue of software licenses
> and to that extent, one of the software developers involved in openDS
> (and now no longer employed by Sun likely to be involved in future
> development) has a blog that discusses the CDDL License and the
> ramifications of that license...
> 
> http://directorymanager.wordpress.com/2007/12/02/why-the-dislike-for-cddl/
> 
> It is curious that Sun used LGPL for openoffice.org, CDDL for openDS and
> OpenSolaris.
> 
> I think that this continues to inure to Red Hat's good will because they
> actually purchased the Netscape Directory Server from AOL (the ashes of
> Netscape) and have released it lock, stock and barrel (and it took them
> quite some time to audit the code, assign the various parts and pieces
> to the proper license, etc.
> 
> http://directory.fedoraproject.org/
> 
> http://directory.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Licensing
> 
> and a very impressive, almost AD like...
> 
> http://directory.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Screenshots
> 
> and I've been using it at a client's office and it works rather well all
> considered.
> 
> But I am mostly using OpenLDAP.
> 
> OpenDS is not much in use. Thankfully, you don't need to use java for
> everything (though I've seen it said that when all you have is a hammer,
> everything looks like a nail).
> 
> Craig
> 
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OT: Digg - Open DS Governance Issues

[Stephen P Rufle]

http://digg.com/linux_unix/Open_DS_Governance_Issues
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Ubuntu Malicious Command Warning

[Stephen P Rufle]

http://ubuntuforums.org/announcement.php?a=54

Remember practice safe hex :)
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Re: OT - SVN for OSX

[Stephen P Rufle]

http://bobspace.wordpress.com/2007/03/12/the-tortoise-and-the-tiger-svn-on-os-x-finder/

http://scplugin.tigris.org/

Bryan O'Neal wrote:
> Does any one know of a file based SVN client, like Tortoise, for OS X?  
> I have a graphic designer I want to have using our repository for 
> storage and revision control of her work.
> 
> 
> 
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Re: Stammtisch tomorrow

[Stephen P Rufle]

GNU/Haiku

:)

Derek Neighbors wrote:

Hans,


On 9/17/07, der.hans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  

moin moin,

just a quick reminder of the Stammtische Tuesday night.

The Avondale location will likely move next month as they started hosting
an open mic night the same night. Watch the web site and next month's
announcement for details.



I think they should recite Free Software error messages in haiku on
open mic night.

http://www.gnu.org/fun/jokes/error-haiku.html

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Fedora 7/Ubuntu help

[Stephen P Rufle]

I would like to ask the list if there is anyone that lives near 
Ray/Cooper who would be willing to help me learn about GNU/Linux ( I am 
starting with the two distros in the subject). I would be willing to buy 
dinner ( pizza ... etc or you can eat a home cooked meal :) and then 
tutor me on the different issues I might be having. I am always willing 
to RTFM if I have too, so I think I would only need this to happen 
sometimes.


Items of interest to

   * Software RAID ( wanted to know someone before I invoke a failure)
 o GUI tool to show state or manage
   * Would like to set up VNC so I can run the comp with no monitor
 after it is setup
   * General guidance on living with Linux

If anyone is interested email me at [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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