from:"mark"

James,

It sounds like a fun project! I am very tempted...

However, I found this one -
https://www.flashrouters.com/netgear-wnr3500l-ddwrt-router.php for $80. It
has wireless, but I can just turn it off. A 480 MHz processor, and dd-wrt
installed and tested with openvpn. I haven't priced out your parts list,
but I would be surprised if it comes to less than $80. Also, I think the
netgear router will consume less power and space in my crowded cable
closet (aka the top shelf in my cupboard).

Answers to your questions -
I need a total of 20 gigabit LAN ports for my network. Currently, I have
two 8 port gigabit switches, and 4 10/100 ports on my current BEFSX41
router. I want to upgrade the router for open vpn, and gigabit speeds. So
the router is also a switch.

What is the advantage of running the whole thing virtualized?

But still, the fun of building this little project may outweigh the high
costs ($ and amps).

Mark

On Thu, Jul 5, 2012 at 11:10 PM, James Dugger james.dug...@gmail.comwrote:

 MSI Micro ATX board with Athlon II processor w/ 4 PCI slots (or 2 PCI and
 2 PCIE)
 2 GB RAM
 4 gigabit NIC cards
 IDE or SATA to Compact Flash  Adaptor
 Compact flash 2GB memory - install Linux or Router based distro on CF card
 or USB memory stick
 External power 120v to 12v transformer w/ mono power converter
 Small micro case
 Set BIOS to boot CF Card or USB Memory stick
 Ubuntu 10.04 or 12.04 LTS server minimum install
  - Install Openssh
  - Firewall
  - OpenVPN
  - iptables

 Basically you are building an edge router/vpnserver.  There are a lot of
 instructions to build a high end router/openvpn system using a minimum box
 configuration.  The mobo  chip and RAM maybe overkill but smaller ATOM
 based boards probably won't have 4 PCI slots.  you should be able to pick
 up these for very reasonable cost compared to a higher end router.  Do you
 need all 4 - 1 gigabit connections to the router or can the connections to
 the VPN be shared off of one or two NICs?  OpenVPN needs a minimum of 2
 NIC's  (Unless you have set up virtual network adaptors and bridged them
 together).  Are you dedicating each user to a NIC for speed?  If not you
 could allocate the 4 users to a NIC and connect the router/vpnserver to a 4
 port gigabit switch.

 I'm sure there are a number of the ways to do this and there even might be
 fairly high end router for a good deal but most will also have built in
 wireless as well.  to find a dedicated wired only higher end router you may
 pay as much as the system I just outlined and it would be no where near the
 capabilities of the above system unless it was a lot more expensive.

 I'm sure that there are others here with a lot more experience with
 consumer and enterprise level equipment then myself but I have had success
 with the above. Also keep in mind that the Athlon II is 64bit with SVM
 built in for virtualization.  With additional memory you could run the
 whole thing virtualized using KVM or VMware.

 Good Luck!




 On Thu, Jul 5, 2012 at 7:53 PM, Mark Phillips 
 m...@phillipsmarketing.bizwrote:

 I am looking for a router with the following characteristics:
 * No wifi
 * 4 gigabit LAN ports
 * 1 WAN port to connect to my Cox Cable Modem
 * 400 MHZ+ processor so I can run OpenVPN SSL for a max of 4  remote
 users to access the LAN at the same time.

 The last point comes from reading various forums about running openvpn on
 the router, and they all say get the fastest possible cpu. I probably have
 to run dd-wrt on the router to get openvpn running on the router, but I am
 open to other options (most of the open source router packages support
 openvpn, so anyone will do).

 Thanks!

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Re: Looking for Router Suggestions

Larry,

I queried FlashRouters if they require any vpn or dynamic dns services, or
if they modify the dd-wrt firmware in any way, and got this response:

VPN and DNS service are not required at all, however it is quite simple to
integrate them with DD-WRT routers.
We load tested, stable DD-WRT builds onto the device, we do not modify the
actual firmware.

Have you had a bad experience with FlashRouters?

Mark

On Fri, Jul 6, 2012 at 12:25 PM, Dazed_75 lthiels...@gmail.com wrote:

 Be sure to look at the fine print.  They are setting that router to work
 with a specific provider of what I think is dynamic DNS and offer special
 encryption at fee that can come to about $10/month.


 On Fri, Jul 6, 2012 at 10:34 AM, Mark Phillips m...@phillipsmarketing.biz
  wrote:

 James,

 It sounds like a fun project! I am very tempted...

 However, I found this one -
 https://www.flashrouters.com/netgear-wnr3500l-ddwrt-router.php for $80.
 It has wireless, but I can just turn it off. A 480 MHz processor, and
 dd-wrt installed and tested with openvpn. I haven't priced out your parts
 list, but I would be surprised if it comes to less than $80. Also, I think
 the netgear router will consume less power and space in my crowded cable
 closet (aka the top shelf in my cupboard).

 Answers to your questions -
 I need a total of 20 gigabit LAN ports for my network. Currently, I have
 two 8 port gigabit switches, and 4 10/100 ports on my current BEFSX41
 router. I want to upgrade the router for open vpn, and gigabit speeds. So
 the router is also a switch.

 What is the advantage of running the whole thing virtualized?

 But still, the fun of building this little project may outweigh the high
 costs ($ and amps).

 Mark


 On Thu, Jul 5, 2012 at 11:10 PM, James Dugger james.dug...@gmail.comwrote:

 MSI Micro ATX board with Athlon II processor w/ 4 PCI slots (or 2 PCI
 and 2 PCIE)
 2 GB RAM
 4 gigabit NIC cards
 IDE or SATA to Compact Flash  Adaptor
 Compact flash 2GB memory - install Linux or Router based distro on CF
 card or USB memory stick
 External power 120v to 12v transformer w/ mono power converter
 Small micro case
 Set BIOS to boot CF Card or USB Memory stick
 Ubuntu 10.04 or 12.04 LTS server minimum install
  - Install Openssh
  - Firewall
  - OpenVPN
  - iptables

 Basically you are building an edge router/vpnserver.  There are a lot of
 instructions to build a high end router/openvpn system using a minimum box
 configuration.  The mobo  chip and RAM maybe overkill but smaller ATOM
 based boards probably won't have 4 PCI slots.  you should be able to pick
 up these for very reasonable cost compared to a higher end router.  Do you
 need all 4 - 1 gigabit connections to the router or can the connections to
 the VPN be shared off of one or two NICs?  OpenVPN needs a minimum of 2
 NIC's  (Unless you have set up virtual network adaptors and bridged them
 together).  Are you dedicating each user to a NIC for speed?  If not you
 could allocate the 4 users to a NIC and connect the router/vpnserver to a 4
 port gigabit switch.

 I'm sure there are a number of the ways to do this and there even might
 be fairly high end router for a good deal but most will also have built in
 wireless as well.  to find a dedicated wired only higher end router you may
 pay as much as the system I just outlined and it would be no where near the
 capabilities of the above system unless it was a lot more expensive.

 I'm sure that there are others here with a lot more experience with
 consumer and enterprise level equipment then myself but I have had success
 with the above. Also keep in mind that the Athlon II is 64bit with SVM
 built in for virtualization.  With additional memory you could run the
 whole thing virtualized using KVM or VMware.

 Good Luck!




 On Thu, Jul 5, 2012 at 7:53 PM, Mark Phillips 
 m...@phillipsmarketing.biz wrote:

 I am looking for a router with the following characteristics:
 * No wifi
 * 4 gigabit LAN ports
 * 1 WAN port to connect to my Cox Cable Modem
 * 400 MHZ+ processor so I can run OpenVPN SSL for a max of 4  remote
 users to access the LAN at the same time.

 The last point comes from reading various forums about running openvpn
 on the router, and they all say get the fastest possible cpu. I probably
 have to run dd-wrt on the router to get openvpn running on the router, but
 I am open to other options (most of the open source router packages support
 openvpn, so anyone will do).

 Thanks!

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Re: Looking for Router Suggestions

Eric,

I agree with all that you wrote. However,

* I don't have a spare P3
* I have some old laptops, but no dual nic ones
* I don't have space in my cable shelf to anything bigger than my current
BEFSX41 firewall/router
* The shelf is up high in a rather warm room and the 2 switches, and it
gets a little toasty in there in the summer.

A real computer is the best technical solution, but not feasible in my set
up.

Thanks for the idea!

Mark

On Fri, Jul 6, 2012 at 5:19 PM, Eric Shubert e...@shubes.net wrote:

I run IPCop as a VM (presently VMware, soon to be KVM).

IPCop has everything you're looking for in a prebuilt distro. Any ol'
PentiumIII or greater should do, with 2 nics. IPCop provides all of the
network services you'll likely ever need, and then some.

You really only need 2 nics (WAN/LAN) on the firewall. I think it'd be
more appropriate (easier, cheaper) to add another GigE switch to what you
have. They can be chained together of course.

On 07/05/2012 11:10 PM, James Dugger wrote:

MSI Micro ATX board with Athlon II processor w/ 4 PCI slots (or 2 PCI
and 2 PCIE)
2 GB RAM
4 gigabit NIC cards
IDE or SATA to Compact Flash Adaptor
Compact flash 2GB memory - install Linux or Router based distro on CF
card or USB memory stick
External power 120v to 12v transformer w/ mono power converter
Small micro case
Set BIOS to boot CF Card or USB Memory stick
Ubuntu 10.04 or 12.04 LTS server minimum install
- Install Openssh
- Firewall
- OpenVPN
- iptables

Basically you are building an edge router/vpnserver. There are a lot of
instructions to build a high end router/openvpn system using a minimum
box configuration. The mobo chip and RAM maybe overkill but smaller
ATOM based boards probably won't have 4 PCI slots. you should be able
to pick up these for very reasonable cost compared to a higher end
router. Do you need all 4 - 1 gigabit connections to the router or can
the connections to the VPN be shared off of one or two NICs? OpenVPN
needs a minimum of 2 NIC's (Unless you have set up virtual network
adaptors and bridged them together). Are you dedicating each user to a
NIC for speed? If not you could allocate the 4 users to a NIC and
connect the router/vpnserver to a 4 port gigabit switch.

I'm sure there are a number of the ways to do this and there even might
be fairly high end router for a good deal but most will also have built
in wireless as well. to find a dedicated wired only higher end router
you may pay as much as the system I just outlined and it would be no
where near the capabilities of the above system unless it was a lot more
expensive.

I'm sure that there are others here with a lot more experience with
consumer and enterprise level equipment then myself but I have had
success with the above. Also keep in mind that the Athlon II is 64bit
with SVM built in for virtualization. With additional memory you could
run the whole thing virtualized using KVM or VMware.

Good Luck!

On Thu, Jul 5, 2012 at 7:53 PM, Mark Phillips
m...@phillipsmarketing.biz
mailto:mark@**phillipsmarketing.bizm...@phillipsmarketing.biz
wrote:

I am looking for a router with the following characteristics:
* No wifi
* 4 gigabit LAN ports
* 1 WAN port to connect to my Cox Cable Modem
* 400 MHZ+ processor so I can run OpenVPN SSL for a max of 4 remote
users to access the LAN at the same time.

The last point comes from reading various forums about running
openvpn on the router, and they all say get the fastest possible
cpu. I probably have to run dd-wrt on the router to get openvpn
running on the router, but I am open to other options (most of the
open source router packages support openvpn, so anyone will do).

Thanks!

Mark

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Re: Looking for Router Suggestions

So do I.

Except, when I look here-
http://www.smallnetbuilder.com/lanwan/router-charts/price/74-wan-to-lan it
looks pretty shabby compared to other routers. The Linksys E4200 looks
pretty good, is a little more expensive, but almost twice the WAN-LAN
throughput. The only drawbacks I can see are (1) some reviewers say it runs
hot, but if I disable the readios that may not be an issue and (2) it seems
to be more difficult to reflash with dd-wrt than the 3500L.

Choiceschoices

Mark

On Fri, Jul 6, 2012 at 5:16 PM, Stephen cryptwo...@gmail.com wrote:

 I still really like that router.

 On Fri, Jul 6, 2012 at 4:09 PM, Dazed_75 lthiels...@gmail.com wrote:
  Nope.  I followed the link from the earlier message
  https://www.flashrouters.com/netgear-wnr3500l-ddwrt-router.php and read
 this
  on their web site:
 
  Note: VPN capabilities are only available to VPN subscribers. We work
 with
  OverPlayVPN to make this process simple and easy for beginners. A DD-WRT
  router may be used to set up a VPN connection from a different
 provider, but
  only if they offer support. We currently will only preset the router for
  OverPlayVPN users.
 
 
  The I followed the link to OverPlayVPN and read about the services and
  costs.  I know dd-wrt will do OpenVPN without a commercial service.  I
 just
  was concerned you had not noticed that blurb of theirs.
 
  On Fri, Jul 6, 2012 at 3:36 PM, Mark Phillips 
 m...@phillipsmarketing.biz
  wrote:
 
  Larry,
 
  I queried FlashRouters if they require any vpn or dynamic dns services,
 or
  if they modify the dd-wrt firmware in any way, and got this response:
 
  VPN and DNS service are not required at all, however it is quite simple
  to integrate them with DD-WRT routers.
  We load tested, stable DD-WRT builds onto the device, we do not modify
 the
  actual firmware.
 
  Have you had a bad experience with FlashRouters?
 
  Mark
 
 
  On Fri, Jul 6, 2012 at 12:25 PM, Dazed_75 lthiels...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  Be sure to look at the fine print.  They are setting that router to
 work
  with a specific provider of what I think is dynamic DNS and offer
 special
  encryption at fee that can come to about $10/month.
 
 
  On Fri, Jul 6, 2012 at 10:34 AM, Mark Phillips
  m...@phillipsmarketing.biz wrote:
 
  James,
 
  It sounds like a fun project! I am very tempted...
 
  However, I found this one -
  https://www.flashrouters.com/netgear-wnr3500l-ddwrt-router.php for
 $80. It
  has wireless, but I can just turn it off. A 480 MHz processor, and
 dd-wrt
  installed and tested with openvpn. I haven't priced out your parts
 list, but
  I would be surprised if it comes to less than $80. Also, I think the
 netgear
  router will consume less power and space in my crowded cable closet
 (aka
  the top shelf in my cupboard).
 
  Answers to your questions -
  I need a total of 20 gigabit LAN ports for my network. Currently, I
 have
  two 8 port gigabit switches, and 4 10/100 ports on my current BEFSX41
  router. I want to upgrade the router for open vpn, and gigabit
 speeds. So
  the router is also a switch.
 
  What is the advantage of running the whole thing virtualized?
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Looking for Router Suggestions

2012-07-05 Thread Mark Phillips

I am looking for a router with the following characteristics:
* No wifi
* 4 gigabit LAN ports
* 1 WAN port to connect to my Cox Cable Modem
* 400 MHZ+ processor so I can run OpenVPN SSL for a max of 4  remote users
to access the LAN at the same time.

The last point comes from reading various forums about running openvpn on
the router, and they all say get the fastest possible cpu. I probably have
to run dd-wrt on the router to get openvpn running on the router, but I am
open to other options (most of the open source router packages support
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Thanks!

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Re: Networking Question Regarding Gigbit Ethernet

2012-07-02 Thread Mark Phillips

Kenn,

Thanks for the suggestion. The servers do have static IPs, and the box in
question got its IP from my DHCP server. I looked for possible IP collision
and didn't find any. I also tried giving the box a fixed IP, and no change.

Mark

On Sun, Jul 1, 2012 at 8:21 PM, Kenn parabell...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Forgive if this has already been asked/checked ... you mentioned servers,
 which I assume are on static IP's, is this storage box as well? Could it be
 using an IP already in use, or the wrong subnet, or grabbing an IP from a
 range you've reserved? It probably wouldn't work at all if it was, just
 thought I'd throw it out there.


 -K



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 From: Mark Phillips m...@phillipsmarketing.biz
 Subject: Networking Question Regarding Gigbit Ethernet
 To: Phoenix Linux Users plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us
 Date: Sunday, July 1, 2012, 1:44 PM


 I have a 100baseT network with several Debian servers, a mac book, and
 some virtual windows. I just picked up a Western Digital My Book Live (MBL)
 2TB NAS at Costco, and powered it up on my network. The unit is just
 sitting with its green light on, and the web interface is really slow. When
 I ping the device, it shows somewhere from 50% to 86% packet loss. If I
 ping any other computer on the network I have 0% packet loss. I have tried
 moving the device to different physical plugs, and I get the same results.

 ping results for the MBL from server A:
 --- 192.168.25.213 ping statistics ---
 330 packets transmitted, 152 received, 53% packet loss, time 329555ms
 rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 0.208/0.273/0.650/0.048 ms

 --- 192.168.25.213 ping statistics from server B ---
 254 packets transmitted, 120 received, 52% packet loss, time 252998ms
 rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 0.196/0.264/2.499/0.206 ms


 ping results for  server A to B:
 --- 192.168.25.130 ping statistics ---
 340 packets transmitted, 340 received, 0% packet loss, time 338996ms
 rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 0.080/0.177/0.246/0.030 ms

 The device says gigabit Ethernet next to the Ethernet port. Is there any
 reason I can't connect a gigabit Ethernet device to a 100baseT network
 other than the obvious speed difference? Should I see all this packet loss?
 This is actually the second unit I have tried - the first one acted the
 same way, so I took it back. I am now wondering if I am doing something
 wrong.


 Thanks!

 Mark

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Networking Question Regarding Gigbit Ethernet

I have a 100baseT network with several Debian servers, a mac book, and some
virtual windows. I just picked up a Western Digital My Book Live (MBL) 2TB
NAS at Costco, and powered it up on my network. The unit is just sitting
with its green light on, and the web interface is really slow. When I ping
the device, it shows somewhere from 50% to 86% packet loss. If I ping any
other computer on the network I have 0% packet loss. I have tried moving
the device to different physical plugs, and I get the same results.

ping results for the MBL from server A:
--- 192.168.25.213 ping statistics ---
330 packets transmitted, 152 received, 53% packet loss, time 329555ms
rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 0.208/0.273/0.650/0.048 ms

--- 192.168.25.213 ping statistics from server B ---
254 packets transmitted, 120 received, 52% packet loss, time 252998ms
rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 0.196/0.264/2.499/0.206 ms


ping results for  server A to B:
--- 192.168.25.130 ping statistics ---
340 packets transmitted, 340 received, 0% packet loss, time 338996ms
rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 0.080/0.177/0.246/0.030 ms

The device says gigabit Ethernet next to the Ethernet port. Is there any
reason I can't connect a gigabit Ethernet device to a 100baseT network
other than the obvious speed difference? Should I see all this packet loss?
This is actually the second unit I have tried - the first one acted the
same way, so I took it back. I am now wondering if I am doing something
wrong.


Thanks!

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Re: Networking Question Regarding Gigbit Ethernet

How do I use ethtool to answer your question?

Mark

On Sun, Jul 1, 2012 at 12:52 PM, James Mcphee jmc...@gmail.com wrote:

 What does ethtool tell you about what the interface thinks it is?

 On Sun, Jul 1, 2012 at 12:44 PM, Mark Phillips m...@phillipsmarketing.biz
  wrote:

 I have a 100baseT network with several Debian servers, a mac book, and
 some virtual windows. I just picked up a Western Digital My Book Live (MBL)
 2TB NAS at Costco, and powered it up on my network. The unit is just
 sitting with its green light on, and the web interface is really slow. When
 I ping the device, it shows somewhere from 50% to 86% packet loss. If I
 ping any other computer on the network I have 0% packet loss. I have tried
 moving the device to different physical plugs, and I get the same results.

 ping results for the MBL from server A:
 --- 192.168.25.213 ping statistics ---
 330 packets transmitted, 152 received, 53% packet loss, time 329555ms
 rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 0.208/0.273/0.650/0.048 ms

 --- 192.168.25.213 ping statistics from server B ---
 254 packets transmitted, 120 received, 52% packet loss, time 252998ms
 rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 0.196/0.264/2.499/0.206 ms


 ping results for  server A to B:
 --- 192.168.25.130 ping statistics ---
 340 packets transmitted, 340 received, 0% packet loss, time 338996ms
 rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 0.080/0.177/0.246/0.030 ms

 The device says gigabit Ethernet next to the Ethernet port. Is there any
 reason I can't connect a gigabit Ethernet device to a 100baseT network
 other than the obvious speed difference? Should I see all this packet loss?
 This is actually the second unit I have tried - the first one acted the
 same way, so I took it back. I am now wondering if I am doing something
 wrong.


 Thanks!

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Re: Networking Question Regarding Gigbit Ethernet

So I need to run this on the MLB?

Mark
On Jul 1, 2012 1:36 PM, James Mcphee jmc...@gmail.com wrote:

 As such.  You need to use whatever eth device you have, of course.

 jmcphee@locus ~ :) $ sudo ethtool eth2
 Settings for eth2:
 Supported ports: [ TP MII ]
 Supported link modes:   10baseT/Half 10baseT/Full
 100baseT/Half 100baseT/Full
 1000baseT/Half 1000baseT/Full
 Supported pause frame use: No
 Supports auto-negotiation: Yes
 Advertised link modes:  10baseT/Half 10baseT/Full
 100baseT/Half 100baseT/Full
 1000baseT/Half 1000baseT/Full
 Advertised pause frame use: Symmetric Receive-only
 Advertised auto-negotiation: Yes
 Link partner advertised link modes:  10baseT/Half 10baseT/Full
  100baseT/Half 100baseT/Full
 Link partner advertised pause frame use: Symmetric
 Link partner advertised auto-negotiation: Yes
 Speed: 100Mb/s
 Duplex: Full
 Port: MII
 PHYAD: 0
 Transceiver: internal
 Auto-negotiation: on
 Supports Wake-on: pumbg
 Wake-on: g
 Current message level: 0x0033 (51)
drv probe ifdown ifup
 Link detected: yes


 On Sun, Jul 1, 2012 at 1:22 PM, Mark Phillips 
 m...@phillipsmarketing.bizwrote:

 How do I use ethtool to answer your question?

 Mark


 On Sun, Jul 1, 2012 at 12:52 PM, James Mcphee jmc...@gmail.com wrote:

 What does ethtool tell you about what the interface thinks it is?

 On Sun, Jul 1, 2012 at 12:44 PM, Mark Phillips 
 m...@phillipsmarketing.biz wrote:

 I have a 100baseT network with several Debian servers, a mac book, and
 some virtual windows. I just picked up a Western Digital My Book Live (MBL)
 2TB NAS at Costco, and powered it up on my network. The unit is just
 sitting with its green light on, and the web interface is really slow. When
 I ping the device, it shows somewhere from 50% to 86% packet loss. If I
 ping any other computer on the network I have 0% packet loss. I have tried
 moving the device to different physical plugs, and I get the same results.

 ping results for the MBL from server A:
 --- 192.168.25.213 ping statistics ---
 330 packets transmitted, 152 received, 53% packet loss, time 329555ms
 rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 0.208/0.273/0.650/0.048 ms

 --- 192.168.25.213 ping statistics from server B ---
 254 packets transmitted, 120 received, 52% packet loss, time 252998ms
 rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 0.196/0.264/2.499/0.206 ms


 ping results for  server A to B:
 --- 192.168.25.130 ping statistics ---
 340 packets transmitted, 340 received, 0% packet loss, time 338996ms
 rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 0.080/0.177/0.246/0.030 ms

 The device says gigabit Ethernet next to the Ethernet port. Is there
 any reason I can't connect a gigabit Ethernet device to a 100baseT network
 other than the obvious speed difference? Should I see all this packet loss?
 This is actually the second unit I have tried - the first one acted the
 same way, so I took it back. I am now wondering if I am doing something
 wrong.


 Thanks!

 Mark

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Re: Networking Question Regarding Gigbit Ethernet

I was able to ssh into the MBL and it has ethtool installed -

MyBookLive:~# ethtool eth0
Settings for eth0:
Supported ports: [ MII ]
Supported link modes:   10baseT/Full
100baseT/Full
1000baseT/Full
Supports auto-negotiation: Yes
Advertised link modes:  10baseT/Full
100baseT/Full
1000baseT/Full
Advertised auto-negotiation: Yes
Speed: 100Mb/s
Duplex: Full
Port: MII
PHYAD: 1
Transceiver: external
Auto-negotiation: on
Link detected: yes
MyBookLive:~#

So, it should work on 100baeT. Any thoughts on why I am loosing so many
packets?

Mark

On Sun, Jul 1, 2012 at 2:09 PM, Mark Phillips m...@phillipsmarketing.bizwrote:

 So I need to run this on the MLB?

 Mark
 On Jul 1, 2012 1:36 PM, James Mcphee jmc...@gmail.com wrote:

 As such.  You need to use whatever eth device you have, of course.

 jmcphee@locus ~ :) $ sudo ethtool eth2
 Settings for eth2:
 Supported ports: [ TP MII ]
 Supported link modes:   10baseT/Half 10baseT/Full
 100baseT/Half 100baseT/Full
 1000baseT/Half 1000baseT/Full
 Supported pause frame use: No
 Supports auto-negotiation: Yes
 Advertised link modes:  10baseT/Half 10baseT/Full
 100baseT/Half 100baseT/Full
 1000baseT/Half 1000baseT/Full
 Advertised pause frame use: Symmetric Receive-only
 Advertised auto-negotiation: Yes
 Link partner advertised link modes:  10baseT/Half 10baseT/Full
  100baseT/Half 100baseT/Full
 Link partner advertised pause frame use: Symmetric
 Link partner advertised auto-negotiation: Yes
 Speed: 100Mb/s
 Duplex: Full
 Port: MII
 PHYAD: 0
 Transceiver: internal
 Auto-negotiation: on
 Supports Wake-on: pumbg
 Wake-on: g
 Current message level: 0x0033 (51)
drv probe ifdown ifup
 Link detected: yes


 On Sun, Jul 1, 2012 at 1:22 PM, Mark Phillips m...@phillipsmarketing.biz
  wrote:

 How do I use ethtool to answer your question?

 Mark


 On Sun, Jul 1, 2012 at 12:52 PM, James Mcphee jmc...@gmail.com wrote:

 What does ethtool tell you about what the interface thinks it is?

 On Sun, Jul 1, 2012 at 12:44 PM, Mark Phillips 
 m...@phillipsmarketing.biz wrote:

 I have a 100baseT network with several Debian servers, a mac book, and
 some virtual windows. I just picked up a Western Digital My Book Live 
 (MBL)
 2TB NAS at Costco, and powered it up on my network. The unit is just
 sitting with its green light on, and the web interface is really slow. 
 When
 I ping the device, it shows somewhere from 50% to 86% packet loss. If I
 ping any other computer on the network I have 0% packet loss. I have tried
 moving the device to different physical plugs, and I get the same results.

 ping results for the MBL from server A:
 --- 192.168.25.213 ping statistics ---
 330 packets transmitted, 152 received, 53% packet loss, time 329555ms
 rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 0.208/0.273/0.650/0.048 ms

 --- 192.168.25.213 ping statistics from server B ---
 254 packets transmitted, 120 received, 52% packet loss, time 252998ms
 rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 0.196/0.264/2.499/0.206 ms


 ping results for  server A to B:
 --- 192.168.25.130 ping statistics ---
 340 packets transmitted, 340 received, 0% packet loss, time 338996ms
 rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 0.080/0.177/0.246/0.030 ms

 The device says gigabit Ethernet next to the Ethernet port. Is there
 any reason I can't connect a gigabit Ethernet device to a 100baseT network
 other than the obvious speed difference? Should I see all this packet 
 loss?
 This is actually the second unit I have tried - the first one acted the
 same way, so I took it back. I am now wondering if I am doing something
 wrong.


 Thanks!

 Mark

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Re: Networking Question Regarding Gigbit Ethernet

There is no network speed setting in the device to limit it to 100baseT.

The cable came with the device, and I have tried other cables and ports -
no difference.

top on the device shows a perl process eating up about 93% of the cpu every
now and then. I can't seem to capture it -
top - 14:54:16 up  2:47,  2 users,  load average: 1.05, 1.11, 1.09
Tasks:  93 total,   1 running,  92 sleeping,   0 stopped,   0 zombie
Cpu(s):  0.3%us,  0.7%sy,  0.3%ni, 98.7%id,  0.0%wa,  0.0%hi,  0.0%si,
0.0%st
Mem:253632k total,   232896k used,20736k free,29184k buffers
Swap:   500608k total,30016k used,   470592k free,71808k cached

There is a firmware update avaialable, so I will run that and see if
anything improves. If not, then back to costco it goes!

Mark

On Sun, Jul 1, 2012 at 2:44 PM, Mike Bydalek mike.byda...@gmail.com wrote:

 Like I said, I've seen auto-negotiation sometimes go wonky, even in the
 cases where ethtool reports correctly. If everything in your network is
 okay except this device, hard code it to 100/full through the web UI.

 I would say its your switch, but you tried different ports. How about the
 cable? Swap with a known good one.  Process of elimination here.

 Regards,
 Mike

 On Jul 1, 2012, at 2:39 PM, Mark Phillips m...@phillipsmarketing.biz
 wrote:

 I was able to ssh into the MBL and it has ethtool installed -

 MyBookLive:~# ethtool eth0
 Settings for eth0:
 Supported ports: [ MII ]
 Supported link modes:   10baseT/Full
 100baseT/Full
 1000baseT/Full
 Supports auto-negotiation: Yes
 Advertised link modes:  10baseT/Full
 100baseT/Full
 1000baseT/Full
 Advertised auto-negotiation: Yes
 Speed: 100Mb/s
 Duplex: Full
 Port: MII
 PHYAD: 1
 Transceiver: external
 Auto-negotiation: on
 Link detected: yes
 MyBookLive:~#

 So, it should work on 100baeT. Any thoughts on why I am loosing so many
 packets?

 Mark

 On Sun, Jul 1, 2012 at 2:09 PM, Mark Phillips 
 m...@phillipsmarketing.bizwrote:

 So I need to run this on the MLB?

 Mark
 On Jul 1, 2012 1:36 PM, James Mcphee jmc...@gmail.com wrote:

 As such.  You need to use whatever eth device you have, of course.

 jmcphee@locus ~ :) $ sudo ethtool eth2
 Settings for eth2:
 Supported ports: [ TP MII ]
 Supported link modes:   10baseT/Half 10baseT/Full
 100baseT/Half 100baseT/Full
 1000baseT/Half 1000baseT/Full
 Supported pause frame use: No
 Supports auto-negotiation: Yes
 Advertised link modes:  10baseT/Half 10baseT/Full
 100baseT/Half 100baseT/Full
 1000baseT/Half 1000baseT/Full
 Advertised pause frame use: Symmetric Receive-only
 Advertised auto-negotiation: Yes
 Link partner advertised link modes:  10baseT/Half 10baseT/Full
  100baseT/Half 100baseT/Full
 Link partner advertised pause frame use: Symmetric
 Link partner advertised auto-negotiation: Yes
 Speed: 100Mb/s
 Duplex: Full
 Port: MII
 PHYAD: 0
 Transceiver: internal
 Auto-negotiation: on
 Supports Wake-on: pumbg
 Wake-on: g
 Current message level: 0x0033 (51)
drv probe ifdown ifup
 Link detected: yes


 On Sun, Jul 1, 2012 at 1:22 PM, Mark Phillips 
 m...@phillipsmarketing.biz wrote:

 How do I use ethtool to answer your question?

 Mark


 On Sun, Jul 1, 2012 at 12:52 PM, James Mcphee jmc...@gmail.com wrote:

 What does ethtool tell you about what the interface thinks it is?

 On Sun, Jul 1, 2012 at 12:44 PM, Mark Phillips 
 m...@phillipsmarketing.biz wrote:

 I have a 100baseT network with several Debian servers, a mac book,
 and some virtual windows. I just picked up a Western Digital My Book Live
 (MBL) 2TB NAS at Costco, and powered it up on my network. The unit is 
 just
 sitting with its green light on, and the web interface is really slow. 
 When
 I ping the device, it shows somewhere from 50% to 86% packet loss. If I
 ping any other computer on the network I have 0% packet loss. I have 
 tried
 moving the device to different physical plugs, and I get the same 
 results.

 ping results for the MBL from server A:
 --- 192.168.25.213 ping statistics ---
 330 packets transmitted, 152 received, 53% packet loss, time 329555ms
 rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 0.208/0.273/0.650/0.048 ms

 --- 192.168.25.213 ping statistics from server B ---
 254 packets transmitted, 120 received, 52% packet loss, time 252998ms
 rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 0.196/0.264/2.499/0.206 ms


 ping results for  server A to B:
 --- 192.168.25.130 ping statistics ---
 340 packets transmitted, 340 received, 0% packet loss, time 338996ms
 rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 0.080/0.177/0.246/0.030 ms

Re: Networking Question Regarding Gigbit Ethernet

The device is now updating the firmware..and there are no packets lost
on pings to the device or pings from the device.

Mark

On Sun, Jul 1, 2012 at 2:53 PM, Michael Butash mich...@butash.net wrote:

 Unless you have a managed switch, don't force negotiation, as it'll just
 cause the switch to run in 10base/half-duplex (lowest common denominator)
 when there is no negotiation advertised.  It's sitting in 100/full already,
 which is what you want.

 If you do ifconfig eth0, do you see any errors?  Collisions and CRC errors
 will stack if there is a negotiation problem.  Seems like either the switch
 or phy port on the mybook is wack, but doesn't make a lot of sense you'd
 lose that much anyways.  Try different switch port/cable if there are
 errors.

 Have you tried pinging from the mbl itself to the gateway or other hosts?
  Could be they have some kind of input iptables filter
 rate-limiting/shaping packets or some such, but unlikely.

 -mb



 On 07/01/2012 02:39 PM, Mark Phillips wrote:

 I was able to ssh into the MBL and it has ethtool installed -

 MyBookLive:~# ethtool eth0
 Settings for eth0:
  Supported ports: [ MII ]
  Supported link modes:   10baseT/Full
  100baseT/Full
  1000baseT/Full
  Supports auto-negotiation: Yes
  Advertised link modes:  10baseT/Full
  100baseT/Full
  1000baseT/Full
  Advertised auto-negotiation: Yes
  Speed: 100Mb/s
  Duplex: Full
  Port: MII
  PHYAD: 1
  Transceiver: external
  Auto-negotiation: on
  Link detected: yes
 MyBookLive:~#

 So, it should work on 100baeT. Any thoughts on why I am loosing so many
 packets?

 Mark

 On Sun, Jul 1, 2012 at 2:09 PM, Mark Phillips
 m...@phillipsmarketing.biz 
 mailto:mark@**phillipsmarketing.bizm...@phillipsmarketing.biz
 wrote:

 So I need to run this on the MLB?

 Mark

 On Jul 1, 2012 1:36 PM, James Mcphee jmc...@gmail.com
 mailto:jmc...@gmail.com wrote:

 As such.  You need to use whatever eth device you have, of course.

 jmcphee@locus ~ :) $ sudo ethtool eth2
 Settings for eth2:
  Supported ports: [ TP MII ]
  Supported link modes:   10baseT/Half 10baseT/Full
  100baseT/Half 100baseT/Full
  1000baseT/Half 1000baseT/Full
  Supported pause frame use: No
  Supports auto-negotiation: Yes
  Advertised link modes:  10baseT/Half 10baseT/Full
  100baseT/Half 100baseT/Full
  1000baseT/Half 1000baseT/Full
  Advertised pause frame use: Symmetric Receive-only
  Advertised auto-negotiation: Yes
  Link partner advertised link modes:  10baseT/Half
 10baseT/Full
   100baseT/Half
 100baseT/Full
  Link partner advertised pause frame use: Symmetric
  Link partner advertised auto-negotiation: Yes
  Speed: 100Mb/s
  Duplex: Full
  Port: MII
  PHYAD: 0
  Transceiver: internal
  Auto-negotiation: on
  Supports Wake-on: pumbg
  Wake-on: g
  Current message level: 0x0033 (51)
 drv probe ifdown ifup
  Link detected: yes


 On Sun, Jul 1, 2012 at 1:22 PM, Mark Phillips
 m...@phillipsmarketing.biz 
 mailto:mark@**phillipsmarketing.bizm...@phillipsmarketing.biz
 

 wrote:

 How do I use ethtool to answer your question?

 Mark


 On Sun, Jul 1, 2012 at 12:52 PM, James Mcphee
 jmc...@gmail.com mailto:jmc...@gmail.com wrote:

 What does ethtool tell you about what the interface
 thinks it is?

 On Sun, Jul 1, 2012 at 12:44 PM, Mark Phillips
 m...@phillipsmarketing.biz
 
 mailto:mark@**phillipsmarketing.bizm...@phillipsmarketing.biz
 wrote:

 I have a 100baseT network with several Debian
 servers, a mac book, and some virtual windows. I
 just picked up a Western Digital My Book Live (MBL)
 2TB NAS at Costco, and powered it up on my network.
 The unit is just sitting with its green light on,
 and the web interface is really slow. When I ping
 the device, it shows somewhere from 50% to 86%
 packet loss. If I ping any other computer on the
 network I have 0% packet loss. I have tried moving
 the device to different physical plugs

Re: Networking Question Regarding Gigbit Ethernet

Well, the update finished, but I am still getting over 50% packet loss when
I ping the device. I guess back to costco it goes.

Mark

On Sun, Jul 1, 2012 at 3:05 PM, Mark Phillips m...@phillipsmarketing.bizwrote:

 The device is now updating the firmware..and there are no packets lost
 on pings to the device or pings from the device.

 Mark


 On Sun, Jul 1, 2012 at 2:53 PM, Michael Butash mich...@butash.net wrote:

 Unless you have a managed switch, don't force negotiation, as it'll just
 cause the switch to run in 10base/half-duplex (lowest common denominator)
 when there is no negotiation advertised.  It's sitting in 100/full already,
 which is what you want.

 If you do ifconfig eth0, do you see any errors?  Collisions and CRC
 errors will stack if there is a negotiation problem.  Seems like either the
 switch or phy port on the mybook is wack, but doesn't make a lot of sense
 you'd lose that much anyways.  Try different switch port/cable if there are
 errors.

 Have you tried pinging from the mbl itself to the gateway or other hosts?
  Could be they have some kind of input iptables filter
 rate-limiting/shaping packets or some such, but unlikely.

 -mb



 On 07/01/2012 02:39 PM, Mark Phillips wrote:

 I was able to ssh into the MBL and it has ethtool installed -

 MyBookLive:~# ethtool eth0
 Settings for eth0:
  Supported ports: [ MII ]
  Supported link modes:   10baseT/Full
  100baseT/Full
  1000baseT/Full
  Supports auto-negotiation: Yes
  Advertised link modes:  10baseT/Full
  100baseT/Full
  1000baseT/Full
  Advertised auto-negotiation: Yes
  Speed: 100Mb/s
  Duplex: Full
  Port: MII
  PHYAD: 1
  Transceiver: external
  Auto-negotiation: on
  Link detected: yes
 MyBookLive:~#

 So, it should work on 100baeT. Any thoughts on why I am loosing so many
 packets?

 Mark

 On Sun, Jul 1, 2012 at 2:09 PM, Mark Phillips
 m...@phillipsmarketing.biz 
 mailto:mark@**phillipsmarketing.bizm...@phillipsmarketing.biz
 wrote:

 So I need to run this on the MLB?

 Mark

 On Jul 1, 2012 1:36 PM, James Mcphee jmc...@gmail.com
 mailto:jmc...@gmail.com wrote:

 As such.  You need to use whatever eth device you have, of
 course.

 jmcphee@locus ~ :) $ sudo ethtool eth2
 Settings for eth2:
  Supported ports: [ TP MII ]
  Supported link modes:   10baseT/Half 10baseT/Full
  100baseT/Half 100baseT/Full
  1000baseT/Half 1000baseT/Full
  Supported pause frame use: No
  Supports auto-negotiation: Yes
  Advertised link modes:  10baseT/Half 10baseT/Full
  100baseT/Half 100baseT/Full
  1000baseT/Half 1000baseT/Full
  Advertised pause frame use: Symmetric Receive-only
  Advertised auto-negotiation: Yes
  Link partner advertised link modes:  10baseT/Half
 10baseT/Full
   100baseT/Half
 100baseT/Full
  Link partner advertised pause frame use: Symmetric
  Link partner advertised auto-negotiation: Yes
  Speed: 100Mb/s
  Duplex: Full
  Port: MII
  PHYAD: 0
  Transceiver: internal
  Auto-negotiation: on
  Supports Wake-on: pumbg
  Wake-on: g
  Current message level: 0x0033 (51)
 drv probe ifdown ifup
  Link detected: yes


 On Sun, Jul 1, 2012 at 1:22 PM, Mark Phillips
 m...@phillipsmarketing.biz 
 mailto:mark@**phillipsmarketing.bizm...@phillipsmarketing.biz
 

 wrote:

 How do I use ethtool to answer your question?

 Mark


 On Sun, Jul 1, 2012 at 12:52 PM, James Mcphee
 jmc...@gmail.com mailto:jmc...@gmail.com wrote:

 What does ethtool tell you about what the interface
 thinks it is?

 On Sun, Jul 1, 2012 at 12:44 PM, Mark Phillips
 m...@phillipsmarketing.biz
 
 mailto:mark@**phillipsmarketing.bizm...@phillipsmarketing.biz
 wrote:

 I have a 100baseT network with several Debian
 servers, a mac book, and some virtual windows. I
 just picked up a Western Digital My Book Live (MBL)
 2TB NAS at Costco, and powered it up on my network.
 The unit is just sitting with its green light on,
 and the web interface is really slow. When I ping
 the device, it shows somewhere

Re: Strange Server Behavior

2012-06-28 Thread Mark Phillips

The results so far

running exim4, cups, apache2, openvpns, and ntp, resutled in
5349 packets transmitted, 5349 received, 0% packet loss, time 53480414ms
rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 0.101/0.207/3.027/0.050 ms

So the problem is in one of these applications
mediatomb
mysql
nfs-common
mfs-kernel-server
rpcbind

I will set up a test tonight for these bad boys.

Mark

On Wed, Jun 27, 2012 at 9:58 AM, Mark Phillips
m...@phillipsmarketing.bizwrote:

 Rusty,

 I am running another test now, with the following services running

 exim4
 cups
 apache2
 openvpnas
 cups
 ntp

 I will keep you posted.

 Mark


 On Wed, Jun 27, 2012 at 9:16 AM, Carruth, Rusty 
 rusty.carr...@smartstoragesys.com wrote:

 Well, I had to ask J

 ** **

 I’d say its ‘divide and conquer time’ like I suggested earlier – enable
 half (approx) of the services and run the test.  If it passes, turn those
 off and then turn on the other half, rerun test.  If it passes, life gets
 hard, and I’m going to ignore that possibility for now!  Whichever test
 fails, repeat the above with that reduced set of services.

 ** **

 If both halves pass, then there is some interaction between the services,
 and it’s not so easy as divide and conquer.   (but of course, if a service
 depends upon another one to be fully functional (apache and mysql are
 likely examples) then you’ll have to keep those services together till the
 bitter end (as it were)).

 ** **

 However, there is still hope someone here has another idea…

 ** **

 Rusty

 ** **

 *From:* plug-discuss-boun...@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us [mailto:
 plug-discuss-boun...@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us] *On Behalf Of *Mark
 Phillips
 *Sent:* Wednesday, June 27, 2012 9:12 AM

 *To:* Main PLUG discussion list
 *Subject:* Re: Strange Server Behavior

 ** **

 Rusty,

 The test was run from 11 PM to 7 AM, so no one in my house was doing
 anything but sawing logs, as far as I know. Yes, teenagers tend to stay up
 late, but I would have heard the tv. I don't think any of the other
 machines are really doing anything at that time as well.

 I don't think anyone is using my wifiI have a 64 character key for
 AES and mac address filter for security. Yes, I know one can eaily spoof
 the mac address thing, but it keeps some out. I also have not seen anything
 strange in the logs.

 Rsync is a good idea, but I agree - fragile, lots to set up, but maybe
 worth a thought if nfs tends to be the problem. Maybe a script to check if
 a local folder has changed, and then rsync it

 Mark

 On Wed, Jun 27, 2012 at 8:59 AM, Carruth, Rusty 
 rusty.carr...@smartstoragesys.com wrote:

 Well, NFS server is less likely (I think!) to cause momentary freezes
 than the client, but samba MIGHT be an idea.  Hopefully someone else here
 has more experience with the server side of things, or maybe google would
 help.

  

 On the upload video thing – if you wanted to go to a lot of work, you
 could put directories on each computer that periodically get rsync’d (or
 whatever) to the server, so that the family members only need to copy the
 movie to the directory on their machine and it will automatically get
 copied across.  But that may be more work and fragility than you want J
 (and might make you more expendable!).  but that could get rid of nfs or
 samba or any such thing.  Probably not worth doing if NFS isn’t’ the issue
 J, so I’d say turn on half the processes and see what happens, as I
 mentioned before..

  

 Thinking about the system for a bit – first the schedule of when things
 freeze.  Does it line up with anything being done on the client machines?
 On the TV? What ‘absolute time’ (wall clock time) were those 38 incidents
 at?  (If clients do something every 30 minutes, and they are out of sync
 with each other, that might explain the variability of the hiccup timing)
 

  

 Going a bit further afield: Have you verified that nobody is using your
 wifi for any nefarious purposes?  

  

 Just some random thoughts…

  

 Rusty

  

 *From:* plug-discuss-boun...@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us [mailto:
 plug-discuss-boun...@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us] *On Behalf Of *Mark
 Phillips
 *Sent:* Wednesday, June 27, 2012 8:47 AM


 *To:* Main PLUG discussion list
 *Subject:* Re: Strange Server Behavior

  

 I only installed nfs because I started to use this server as a media
 server, and I wanted my family to be able to add movies to the movie folder
 on the server. Mediatomb then scans the folder and makes the movies
 available on our nifty wifi enabled TV. 


 Would samba be a better choice? The other computers on the network are
 mac, windows, ubuntu. However, the windoes user has a low probability of
 adding any movies by herself;) (no gender bashing here.I live with
 four wonderful women, and one of them is a complete techo-phobe, and she is
 proud of it.but that helps keep me around, so all is good with the
 world).

 Mark

Re: Strange Server Behavior

Some more pieces to the puzzle...

I ran the same ping test last night (laptop to server), but stopped the
following services on the server:
apache2
exim4
mediatomb
mysql
nfs-kernel-server
nfs-common
openvpnas
cups
ntp
rpcbind

And there were no packets lost!

2802 packets transmitted, 2802 received, 0% packet loss, time 28010243ms
rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 0.063/0.157/0.319/0.033 ms

This is all that was running:
USER   PID %CPU %MEMVSZ   RSS TTY  STAT START   TIME COMMAND
root 1  0.0  0.0   2036   736 ?Ss   Jun25   0:01 init [2]
root 2  0.0  0.0  0 0 ?SJun25   0:00 [kthreadd]
root 3  0.0  0.0  0 0 ?SJun25   0:00
[migration/0]
root 4  0.0  0.0  0 0 ?SJun25   0:00
[ksoftirqd/0]
root 5  0.0  0.0  0 0 ?SJun25   0:00
[watchdog/0]
root 6  0.0  0.0  0 0 ?SJun25   0:00 [events/0]
root 7  0.0  0.0  0 0 ?SJun25   0:00 [cpuset]
root 8  0.0  0.0  0 0 ?SJun25   0:00 [khelper]
root 9  0.0  0.0  0 0 ?SJun25   0:00 [netns]
root10  0.0  0.0  0 0 ?SJun25   0:00 [async/mgr]
root11  0.0  0.0  0 0 ?SJun25   0:00 [pm]
root12  0.0  0.0  0 0 ?SJun25   0:00
[sync_supers]
root13  0.0  0.0  0 0 ?SJun25   0:00
[bdi-default]
root14  0.0  0.0  0 0 ?SJun25   0:00
[kintegrityd/0]
root15  0.0  0.0  0 0 ?SJun25   0:00 [kblockd/0]
root16  0.0  0.0  0 0 ?SJun25   0:00 [kacpid]
root17  0.0  0.0  0 0 ?SJun25   0:00
[kacpi_notify]
root18  0.0  0.0  0 0 ?SJun25   0:00
[kacpi_hotplug]
root19  0.0  0.0  0 0 ?SJun25   0:00 [kseriod]
root21  0.0  0.0  0 0 ?SJun25   0:00
[kondemand/0]
root22  0.0  0.0  0 0 ?SJun25   0:00
[khungtaskd]
root23  0.0  0.0  0 0 ?SJun25   0:00 [kswapd0]
root24  0.0  0.0  0 0 ?SN   Jun25   0:00 [ksmd]
root25  0.0  0.0  0 0 ?SJun25   0:00 [aio/0]
root26  0.0  0.0  0 0 ?SJun25   0:00 [crypto/0]
root   154  0.0  0.0  0 0 ?SJun25   0:00
[ksuspend_usbd]
root   155  0.0  0.0  0 0 ?SJun25   0:00 [khubd]
root   157  0.0  0.0  0 0 ?SJun25   0:00 [ata/0]

So, perhaps I don't have a hardware problem, but a software problem?

Mark

On Tue, Jun 26, 2012 at 9:02 PM, Stephen cryptwo...@gmail.com wrote:

 What about pings from the server? Also my paranoia about this would have
 me checking the arp tables to see if the ip address is getting
 mis-somethinged. Also see if uou can make a task that will wrife to a file
 once every qp sex and see if the server is falling asleep or if it is
 network related.  It may be nic or switch for example.
 On Jun 26, 2012 7:42 PM, Mark Phillips m...@phillipsmarketing.biz
 wrote:

 My ping test is not what I expected but still shows a problem.

 I setup the test to ping (64 bytes, ttl =64) the problem server every 10
 seconds from my laptop. Both are plugged in, on the same subnet. The boxes
 are about 5 feet apart. Here are the results:

 3434 packets transmitted, 3307 received, 3% packet loss, time 34336321ms
 rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 0.100/0.231/4.332/0.275 ms

 I found 38 instances where the time stamps for the pings hiccuped and
 there was a delay. Each hiccup lasted (min/avg/max) 10/44/70 seconds. The
 time between hiccups was (min/avg/max) 1:20/14:29/29:00 minutes.

 I grep'd the log files for messages around these 38 incidents, but did
 not find any messages in any of the logs. However this is not a good test,
 so I just trolled the logs and didn't find anything significant.

 Do these numbers strike a chord with anyone?

 I will check the caps on the MB later this week.

 I looked in syslog, and could not find any correlation with the 38
 hiccups. However, what do these two cron jobs do, since the run quite
 frequently:
 CMD (   cd /  run-parts --report /etc/cron.hourly)
 CMD (  [ -x /usr/lib/php5/maxlifetime ]  [ -d /var/lib/php5 ]  find
 /var/lib/php5/ -type f -cmin +$(/usr/lib/php5/maxlifetime) -delete)

 A search through the log files for error does not return anything
 interesting.

 Since apache and few other apps were running on the server, I will run
 the ping test again tonight after I kill everything on the server.

 Thanks!

 Mark

 On Tue, Jun 26, 2012 at 9:35 AM, Carruth, Rusty 
 rusty.carr...@smartstoragesys.com wrote:

 Curious how your test turned out.

 ** **

 You may also want to run an iostat to a file and see if that correlates
 to the slow responses.

 ** **

 However, that ‘bulging capacitor’ thing others have

Re: Strange Server Behavior

Stephen,

Great ideas...more tests for the morning!

Mark
On Jun 26, 2012 9:02 PM, Stephen cryptwo...@gmail.com wrote:

 What about pings from the server? Also my paranoia about this would have
 me checking the arp tables to see if the ip address is getting
 mis-somethinged. Also see if uou can make a task that will wrife to a file
 once every qp sex and see if the server is falling asleep or if it is
 network related.  It may be nic or switch for example.
 On Jun 26, 2012 7:42 PM, Mark Phillips m...@phillipsmarketing.biz
 wrote:

 My ping test is not what I expected but still shows a problem.

 I setup the test to ping (64 bytes, ttl =64) the problem server every 10
 seconds from my laptop. Both are plugged in, on the same subnet. The boxes
 are about 5 feet apart. Here are the results:

 3434 packets transmitted, 3307 received, 3% packet loss, time 34336321ms
 rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 0.100/0.231/4.332/0.275 ms

 I found 38 instances where the time stamps for the pings hiccuped and
 there was a delay. Each hiccup lasted (min/avg/max) 10/44/70 seconds. The
 time between hiccups was (min/avg/max) 1:20/14:29/29:00 minutes.

 I grep'd the log files for messages around these 38 incidents, but did
 not find any messages in any of the logs. However this is not a good test,
 so I just trolled the logs and didn't find anything significant.

 Do these numbers strike a chord with anyone?

 I will check the caps on the MB later this week.

 I looked in syslog, and could not find any correlation with the 38
 hiccups. However, what do these two cron jobs do, since the run quite
 frequently:
 CMD (   cd /  run-parts --report /etc/cron.hourly)
 CMD (  [ -x /usr/lib/php5/maxlifetime ]  [ -d /var/lib/php5 ]  find
 /var/lib/php5/ -type f -cmin +$(/usr/lib/php5/maxlifetime) -delete)

 A search through the log files for error does not return anything
 interesting.

 Since apache and few other apps were running on the server, I will run
 the ping test again tonight after I kill everything on the server.

 Thanks!

 Mark

 On Tue, Jun 26, 2012 at 9:35 AM, Carruth, Rusty 
 rusty.carr...@smartstoragesys.com wrote:

 Curious how your test turned out.

 ** **

 You may also want to run an iostat to a file and see if that correlates
 to the slow responses.

 ** **

 However, that ‘bulging capacitor’ thing others have mentioned sounds
 like a pretty convincing coincidence, as it were….

 ** **

 (I will say that USUALLY I’d agree with JD – Iobound or low RAM (and
 thus iobound on swap space) are the only things I’ve seen that cause
 unresponsiveness (never seen an overheat slow it down, usually it just dies
 suddenly.  I probably get fast overheating and not slow increases in heat
 levels J)

 ** **

 OH!  WAIT!  I just remembered another event – and it WON’T show up in
 normal performance logs.  If ‘you’ send a command to a disk drive, and it
 goes busy for a long time, your system can become totally locked until the
 timeout happens and the kernel gives up.  (If that happens, there SHOULD be
 a timeout recorded in the syslog or /var/log/messages.  Check there for
 timeouts on disk drives or hard resets or such).  (I know this because of
 where I work J)  (Disk drives are supposed to acknowledge the command
 almost immediately.  It is almost always a bad thing when the drive takes
 the command but does not finish the initial command handshake sequence…
 You might want to look at the S.M.A.R.T. attributes for your drives as well
 to see if any of them are showing ‘pre-fail’ conditions)

 ** **

 Rusty

 ** **

 *From:* plug-discuss-boun...@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us [mailto:
 plug-discuss-boun...@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us] *On Behalf Of *Mark
 Phillips
 *Sent:* Monday, June 25, 2012 10:13 PM
 *To:* Main PLUG discussion list
 *Subject:* Re: Strange Server Behavior

 ** **

 Right now, the server is not doing anything but sitting there

 Tasks:  98 total,   1 running,  97 sleeping,   0 stopped,   0 zombie
 Cpu(s):  0.0%us,  0.3%sy,  0.0%ni, 99.7%id,  0.0%wa,  0.0%hi,  0.0%si,
 0.0%st
 Mem:   1033780k total,   217560k used,   816220k free, 6220k buffers
 Swap:  2019320k total,0k used,  2019320k free,94056k cached

 Plenty of swap, not very busy. It may be over heating, but not sure why.

 I am going to run a test tonight - ping every 10 seconds and time stamp
 the output into a file. Perhaps I will see gaps or unusually long response
 times and I can correlate that with the log files.

 Mark

 On Mon, Jun 25, 2012 at 10:09 PM, JD Austin  j...@twingeckos.com
 wrote:

 I've had servers that act like that.. usually they're over heating,
 completely I/O bound, or swapping due to low available memory. 

 ** **

 On Mon, Jun 25, 2012 at 10:00 PM, Mark Phillips 
 m...@phillipsmarketing.biz wrote:

 Nope - everything just stops - ping waits for a response, web services
 just wait for the server, file transfers stop and wait...as if time
 just stopped for the server, then starts

Re: Strange Server Behavior

I only installed nfs because I started to use this server as a media
server, and I wanted my family to be able to add movies to the movie folder
on the server. Mediatomb then scans the folder and makes the movies
available on our nifty wifi enabled TV.

Would samba be a better choice? The other computers on the network are mac,
windows, ubuntu. However, the windoes user has a low probability of adding
any movies by herself;) (no gender bashing here.I live with four
wonderful women, and one of them is a complete techo-phobe, and she is
proud of it.but that helps keep me around, so all is good with the
world).

Mark

On Wed, Jun 27, 2012 at 8:20 AM, Carruth, Rusty 
rusty.carr...@smartstoragesys.com wrote:

 Personal guesses, YMMV, YKWYPFI (you know what you paid for it), etc:

 ** **

 If you don’t need NFS, leave it off.  When I saw it in  there I thought –
 oh, my.  For NFS clients, I know you can freeze a system when the server
 goes unresponsive.  Or I think I know that J

 ** **

 Of all those things, are there any you are NOT using?

 ** **

 Besides the ping test mentioned earlier, I suppose you could start
 dividing and conquering (turn back on half the items below, run the test.
 If passes, run the other half to verify that the mix of the other half will
 fail, THEN split the failing half in half and repeat).

 ** **

 I can’t recall if I’ve ever seen a hung printer hang cups enough to hang
 the entire system.  It will hang printing, of course, but…

 ** **

 In any case, yes it sounds like some sort of hw/sw interaction or maybe
 just sw.

 ** **

 Good luck, Mr Phelps!  ;-)

 ** **

 Rusty

 ** **

 *From:* plug-discuss-boun...@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us [mailto:
 plug-discuss-boun...@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us] *On Behalf Of *Mark
 Phillips
 *Sent:* Wednesday, June 27, 2012 6:51 AM

 *To:* Main PLUG discussion list
 *Subject:* Re: Strange Server Behavior

 ** **

 Some more pieces to the puzzle...


 I ran the same ping test last night (laptop to server), but stopped the
 following services on the server:
 apache2
 exim4
 mediatomb
 mysql
 nfs-kernel-server
 nfs-common
 openvpnas
 cups
 ntp
 rpcbind

 And there were no packets lost!

 2802 packets transmitted, 2802 received, 0% packet loss, time 28010243ms
 rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 0.063/0.157/0.319/0.033 ms

 This is all that was running:
 USER   PID %CPU %MEMVSZ   RSS TTY  STAT START   TIME COMMAND
 root 1  0.0  0.0   2036   736 ?Ss   Jun25   0:01 init [2]
 root 2  0.0  0.0  0 0 ?SJun25   0:00 [kthreadd]
 root 3  0.0  0.0  0 0 ?SJun25   0:00
 [migration/0]
 root 4  0.0  0.0  0 0 ?SJun25   0:00
 [ksoftirqd/0]
 root 5  0.0  0.0  0 0 ?SJun25   0:00
 [watchdog/0]
 root 6  0.0  0.0  0 0 ?SJun25   0:00 [events/0]
 root 7  0.0  0.0  0 0 ?SJun25   0:00 [cpuset]
 root 8  0.0  0.0  0 0 ?SJun25   0:00 [khelper]
 root 9  0.0  0.0  0 0 ?SJun25   0:00 [netns]
 root10  0.0  0.0  0 0 ?SJun25   0:00
 [async/mgr]
 root11  0.0  0.0  0 0 ?SJun25   0:00 [pm]
 root12  0.0  0.0  0 0 ?SJun25   0:00
 [sync_supers]
 root13  0.0  0.0  0 0 ?SJun25   0:00
 [bdi-default]
 root14  0.0  0.0  0 0 ?SJun25   0:00
 [kintegrityd/0]
 root15  0.0  0.0  0 0 ?SJun25   0:00
 [kblockd/0]
 root16  0.0  0.0  0 0 ?SJun25   0:00 [kacpid]
 root17  0.0  0.0  0 0 ?SJun25   0:00
 [kacpi_notify]
 root18  0.0  0.0  0 0 ?SJun25   0:00
 [kacpi_hotplug]
 root19  0.0  0.0  0 0 ?SJun25   0:00 [kseriod]
 root21  0.0  0.0  0 0 ?SJun25   0:00
 [kondemand/0]
 root22  0.0  0.0  0 0 ?SJun25   0:00
 [khungtaskd]
 root23  0.0  0.0  0 0 ?SJun25   0:00 [kswapd0]
 root24  0.0  0.0  0 0 ?SN   Jun25   0:00 [ksmd]
 root25  0.0  0.0  0 0 ?SJun25   0:00 [aio/0]
 root26  0.0  0.0  0 0 ?SJun25   0:00 [crypto/0]
 root   154  0.0  0.0  0 0 ?SJun25   0:00
 [ksuspend_usbd]
 root   155  0.0  0.0  0 0 ?SJun25   0:00 [khubd]
 root   157  0.0  0.0  0 0 ?SJun25   0:00 [ata/0]

 So, perhaps I don't have a hardware problem, but a software problem?

 Mark 

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Re: Strange Server Behavior

Rusty,

The test was run from 11 PM to 7 AM, so no one in my house was doing
anything but sawing logs, as far as I know. Yes, teenagers tend to stay up
late, but I would have heard the tv. I don't think any of the other
machines are really doing anything at that time as well.

I don't think anyone is using my wifiI have a 64 character key for AES
and mac address filter for security. Yes, I know one can eaily spoof the
mac address thing, but it keeps some out. I also have not seen anything
strange in the logs.

Rsync is a good idea, but I agree - fragile, lots to set up, but maybe
worth a thought if nfs tends to be the problem. Maybe a script to check if
a local folder has changed, and then rsync it

Mark

On Wed, Jun 27, 2012 at 8:59 AM, Carruth, Rusty 
rusty.carr...@smartstoragesys.com wrote:

 Well, NFS server is less likely (I think!) to cause momentary freezes than
 the client, but samba MIGHT be an idea.  Hopefully someone else here has
 more experience with the server side of things, or maybe google would help.
 

 ** **

 On the upload video thing – if you wanted to go to a lot of work, you
 could put directories on each computer that periodically get rsync’d (or
 whatever) to the server, so that the family members only need to copy the
 movie to the directory on their machine and it will automatically get
 copied across.  But that may be more work and fragility than you want J
 (and might make you more expendable!).  but that could get rid of nfs or
 samba or any such thing.  Probably not worth doing if NFS isn’t’ the issue
 J, so I’d say turn on half the processes and see what happens, as I
 mentioned before..

 ** **

 Thinking about the system for a bit – first the schedule of when things
 freeze.  Does it line up with anything being done on the client machines?
 On the TV? What ‘absolute time’ (wall clock time) were those 38 incidents
 at?  (If clients do something every 30 minutes, and they are out of sync
 with each other, that might explain the variability of the hiccup timing)*
 ***

 ** **

 Going a bit further afield: Have you verified that nobody is using your
 wifi for any nefarious purposes?  

 ** **

 Just some random thoughts…

 ** **

 Rusty

 ** **

 *From:* plug-discuss-boun...@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us [mailto:
 plug-discuss-boun...@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us] *On Behalf Of *Mark
 Phillips
 *Sent:* Wednesday, June 27, 2012 8:47 AM

 *To:* Main PLUG discussion list
 *Subject:* Re: Strange Server Behavior

 ** **

 I only installed nfs because I started to use this server as a media
 server, and I wanted my family to be able to add movies to the movie folder
 on the server. Mediatomb then scans the folder and makes the movies
 available on our nifty wifi enabled TV.

 Would samba be a better choice? The other computers on the network are
 mac, windows, ubuntu. However, the windoes user has a low probability of
 adding any movies by herself;) (no gender bashing here.I live with
 four wonderful women, and one of them is a complete techo-phobe, and she is
 proud of it.but that helps keep me around, so all is good with the
 world).

 Mark 

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Re: Strange Server Behavior

Rusty,

I am running another test now, with the following services running

exim4
cups
apache2
openvpnas
cups
ntp

I will keep you posted.

Mark

On Wed, Jun 27, 2012 at 9:16 AM, Carruth, Rusty 
rusty.carr...@smartstoragesys.com wrote:

 Well, I had to ask J

 ** **

 I’d say its ‘divide and conquer time’ like I suggested earlier – enable
 half (approx) of the services and run the test.  If it passes, turn those
 off and then turn on the other half, rerun test.  If it passes, life gets
 hard, and I’m going to ignore that possibility for now!  Whichever test
 fails, repeat the above with that reduced set of services.

 ** **

 If both halves pass, then there is some interaction between the services,
 and it’s not so easy as divide and conquer.   (but of course, if a service
 depends upon another one to be fully functional (apache and mysql are
 likely examples) then you’ll have to keep those services together till the
 bitter end (as it were)).

 ** **

 However, there is still hope someone here has another idea…

 ** **

 Rusty

 ** **

 *From:* plug-discuss-boun...@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us [mailto:
 plug-discuss-boun...@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us] *On Behalf Of *Mark
 Phillips
 *Sent:* Wednesday, June 27, 2012 9:12 AM

 *To:* Main PLUG discussion list
 *Subject:* Re: Strange Server Behavior

 ** **

 Rusty,

 The test was run from 11 PM to 7 AM, so no one in my house was doing
 anything but sawing logs, as far as I know. Yes, teenagers tend to stay up
 late, but I would have heard the tv. I don't think any of the other
 machines are really doing anything at that time as well.

 I don't think anyone is using my wifiI have a 64 character key for AES
 and mac address filter for security. Yes, I know one can eaily spoof the
 mac address thing, but it keeps some out. I also have not seen anything
 strange in the logs.

 Rsync is a good idea, but I agree - fragile, lots to set up, but maybe
 worth a thought if nfs tends to be the problem. Maybe a script to check if
 a local folder has changed, and then rsync it

 Mark

 On Wed, Jun 27, 2012 at 8:59 AM, Carruth, Rusty 
 rusty.carr...@smartstoragesys.com wrote:

 Well, NFS server is less likely (I think!) to cause momentary freezes than
 the client, but samba MIGHT be an idea.  Hopefully someone else here has
 more experience with the server side of things, or maybe google would help.
 

  

 On the upload video thing – if you wanted to go to a lot of work, you
 could put directories on each computer that periodically get rsync’d (or
 whatever) to the server, so that the family members only need to copy the
 movie to the directory on their machine and it will automatically get
 copied across.  But that may be more work and fragility than you want J
 (and might make you more expendable!).  but that could get rid of nfs or
 samba or any such thing.  Probably not worth doing if NFS isn’t’ the issue
 J, so I’d say turn on half the processes and see what happens, as I
 mentioned before..

  

 Thinking about the system for a bit – first the schedule of when things
 freeze.  Does it line up with anything being done on the client machines?
 On the TV? What ‘absolute time’ (wall clock time) were those 38 incidents
 at?  (If clients do something every 30 minutes, and they are out of sync
 with each other, that might explain the variability of the hiccup timing)*
 ***

  

 Going a bit further afield: Have you verified that nobody is using your
 wifi for any nefarious purposes?  

  

 Just some random thoughts…

  

 Rusty

  

 *From:* plug-discuss-boun...@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us [mailto:
 plug-discuss-boun...@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us] *On Behalf Of *Mark
 Phillips
 *Sent:* Wednesday, June 27, 2012 8:47 AM


 *To:* Main PLUG discussion list
 *Subject:* Re: Strange Server Behavior

  

 I only installed nfs because I started to use this server as a media
 server, and I wanted my family to be able to add movies to the movie folder
 on the server. Mediatomb then scans the folder and makes the movies
 available on our nifty wifi enabled TV. 


 Would samba be a better choice? The other computers on the network are
 mac, windows, ubuntu. However, the windoes user has a low probability of
 adding any movies by herself;) (no gender bashing here.I live with
 four wonderful women, and one of them is a complete techo-phobe, and she is
 proud of it.but that helps keep me around, so all is good with the
 world).

 Mark 

  


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Re: Strange Server Behavior

2012-06-26 Thread Mark Phillips

My ping test is not what I expected but still shows a problem.

I setup the test to ping (64 bytes, ttl =64) the problem server every 10
seconds from my laptop. Both are plugged in, on the same subnet. The boxes
are about 5 feet apart. Here are the results:

3434 packets transmitted, 3307 received, 3% packet loss, time 34336321ms
rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 0.100/0.231/4.332/0.275 ms

I found 38 instances where the time stamps for the pings hiccuped and
there was a delay. Each hiccup lasted (min/avg/max) 10/44/70 seconds. The
time between hiccups was (min/avg/max) 1:20/14:29/29:00 minutes.

I grep'd the log files for messages around these 38 incidents, but did not
find any messages in any of the logs. However this is not a good test, so I
just trolled the logs and didn't find anything significant.

Do these numbers strike a chord with anyone?

I will check the caps on the MB later this week.

I looked in syslog, and could not find any correlation with the 38 hiccups.
However, what do these two cron jobs do, since the run quite frequently:
CMD (   cd /  run-parts --report /etc/cron.hourly)
CMD (  [ -x /usr/lib/php5/maxlifetime ]  [ -d /var/lib/php5 ]  find
/var/lib/php5/ -type f -cmin +$(/usr/lib/php5/maxlifetime) -delete)

A search through the log files for error does not return anything
interesting.

Since apache and few other apps were running on the server, I will run the
ping test again tonight after I kill everything on the server.

Thanks!

Mark

On Tue, Jun 26, 2012 at 9:35 AM, Carruth, Rusty 
rusty.carr...@smartstoragesys.com wrote:

 Curious how your test turned out.

 ** **

 You may also want to run an iostat to a file and see if that correlates to
 the slow responses.

 ** **

 However, that ‘bulging capacitor’ thing others have mentioned sounds like
 a pretty convincing coincidence, as it were….

 ** **

 (I will say that USUALLY I’d agree with JD – Iobound or low RAM (and thus
 iobound on swap space) are the only things I’ve seen that cause
 unresponsiveness (never seen an overheat slow it down, usually it just dies
 suddenly.  I probably get fast overheating and not slow increases in heat
 levels J)

 ** **

 OH!  WAIT!  I just remembered another event – and it WON’T show up in
 normal performance logs.  If ‘you’ send a command to a disk drive, and it
 goes busy for a long time, your system can become totally locked until the
 timeout happens and the kernel gives up.  (If that happens, there SHOULD be
 a timeout recorded in the syslog or /var/log/messages.  Check there for
 timeouts on disk drives or hard resets or such).  (I know this because of
 where I work J)  (Disk drives are supposed to acknowledge the command
 almost immediately.  It is almost always a bad thing when the drive takes
 the command but does not finish the initial command handshake sequence…
 You might want to look at the S.M.A.R.T. attributes for your drives as well
 to see if any of them are showing ‘pre-fail’ conditions)

 ** **

 Rusty

 ** **

 *From:* plug-discuss-boun...@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us [mailto:
 plug-discuss-boun...@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us] *On Behalf Of *Mark
 Phillips
 *Sent:* Monday, June 25, 2012 10:13 PM
 *To:* Main PLUG discussion list
 *Subject:* Re: Strange Server Behavior

 ** **

 Right now, the server is not doing anything but sitting there

 Tasks:  98 total,   1 running,  97 sleeping,   0 stopped,   0 zombie
 Cpu(s):  0.0%us,  0.3%sy,  0.0%ni, 99.7%id,  0.0%wa,  0.0%hi,  0.0%si,
 0.0%st
 Mem:   1033780k total,   217560k used,   816220k free, 6220k buffers
 Swap:  2019320k total,0k used,  2019320k free,94056k cached

 Plenty of swap, not very busy. It may be over heating, but not sure why.

 I am going to run a test tonight - ping every 10 seconds and time stamp
 the output into a file. Perhaps I will see gaps or unusually long response
 times and I can correlate that with the log files.

 Mark

 On Mon, Jun 25, 2012 at 10:09 PM, JD Austin  j...@twingeckos.com wrote:*
 ***

 I've had servers that act like that.. usually they're over heating,
 completely I/O bound, or swapping due to low available memory. 

 ** **

 On Mon, Jun 25, 2012 at 10:00 PM, Mark Phillips 
 m...@phillipsmarketing.biz wrote:

 Nope - everything just stops - ping waits for a response, web services
 just wait for the server, file transfers stop and wait...as if time
 just stopped for the server, then starts again without any errors being
 evident.

 Mark

 ** **

 On Mon, Jun 25, 2012 at 9:57 PM, Stephen   wrote:

 Can you do access any other services hosted by the server during this
 time? Or even an extended ping?

 On Jun 25, 2012 9:53 PM, Mark Phillips   wrote:

 I have a headless server running Linux version 2.6.32-5-686 (Debian
 2.6.32-45) (da...@debian.org) (gcc version 4.3.5 (Debian 4.3.5-4) and no
 X or window manager, and I have noticed in the past couple of days that
 when I ssh in the server it occasionally stops responding

Strange Server Behavior

I have a headless server running Linux version 2.6.32-5-686 (Debian
2.6.32-45) (da...@debian.org) (gcc version 4.3.5 (Debian 4.3.5-4) and no X
or window manager, and I have noticed in the past couple of days that when
I ssh in the server it occasionally stops responding for a minute or two,
then comes back as if nothing had happened. It is a random event - maybe
once an hour. I cannot find anything in the logs - no error messages. There
is nothing wrong with the machine where I initiated the ssh session, and it
is not connected to ssh. The server completely stops responding, then comes
back as if nothing had happened.

How would I go about diagnosing this problem?

Thanks,

Mark
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Re: Strange Server Behavior

Nope - everything just stops - ping waits for a response, web services just
wait for the server, file transfers stop and wait...as if time just
stopped for the server, then starts again without any errors being evident.

Mark

On Mon, Jun 25, 2012 at 9:57 PM, Stephen cryptwo...@gmail.com wrote:

 Can you do access any other services hosted by the server during this
 time? Or even an extended ping?
 On Jun 25, 2012 9:53 PM, Mark Phillips m...@phillipsmarketing.biz
 wrote:

 I have a headless server running Linux version 2.6.32-5-686 (Debian
 2.6.32-45) (da...@debian.org) (gcc version 4.3.5 (Debian 4.3.5-4) and no
 X or window manager, and I have noticed in the past couple of days that
 when I ssh in the server it occasionally stops responding for a minute or
 two, then comes back as if nothing had happened. It is a random event -
 maybe once an hour. I cannot find anything in the logs - no error messages.
 There is nothing wrong with the machine where I initiated the ssh session,
 and it is not connected to ssh. The server completely stops responding,
 then comes back as if nothing had happened.

 How would I go about diagnosing this problem?

 Thanks,

 Mark

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Re: Strange Server Behavior

Bare metal - an old Dell Optiplex GX260.

Mark

On Mon, Jun 25, 2012 at 10:03 PM, Eric Cope eric.c...@gmail.com wrote:

 Is it a VPS or on bare metal? I've experienced similar behavior on VPSs,
 still not sure why,

 Eric


 On Mon, Jun 25, 2012 at 10:00 PM, Mark Phillips 
 m...@phillipsmarketing.biz wrote:

 Nope - everything just stops - ping waits for a response, web services
 just wait for the server, file transfers stop and wait...as if time
 just stopped for the server, then starts again without any errors being
 evident.

 Mark


 On Mon, Jun 25, 2012 at 9:57 PM, Stephen cryptwo...@gmail.com wrote:

 Can you do access any other services hosted by the server during this
 time? Or even an extended ping?
 On Jun 25, 2012 9:53 PM, Mark Phillips m...@phillipsmarketing.biz
 wrote:

 I have a headless server running Linux version 2.6.32-5-686 (Debian
 2.6.32-45) (da...@debian.org) (gcc version 4.3.5 (Debian 4.3.5-4) and
 no X or window manager, and I have noticed in the past couple of days that
 when I ssh in the server it occasionally stops responding for a minute or
 two, then comes back as if nothing had happened. It is a random event -
 maybe once an hour. I cannot find anything in the logs - no error messages.
 There is nothing wrong with the machine where I initiated the ssh session,
 and it is not connected to ssh. The server completely stops responding,
 then comes back as if nothing had happened.

 How would I go about diagnosing this problem?

 Thanks,

 Mark

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Re: Strange Server Behavior

Right now, the server is not doing anything but sitting there

Tasks:  98 total,   1 running,  97 sleeping,   0 stopped,   0 zombie
Cpu(s):  0.0%us,  0.3%sy,  0.0%ni, 99.7%id,  0.0%wa,  0.0%hi,  0.0%si,
0.0%st
Mem:   1033780k total,   217560k used,   816220k free, 6220k buffers
Swap:  2019320k total,0k used,  2019320k free,94056k cached

Plenty of swap, not very busy. It may be over heating, but not sure why.

I am going to run a test tonight - ping every 10 seconds and time stamp the
output into a file. Perhaps I will see gaps or unusually long response
times and I can correlate that with the log files.

Mark

On Mon, Jun 25, 2012 at 10:09 PM, JD Austin j...@twingeckos.com wrote:

 I've had servers that act like that.. usually they're over heating,
 completely I/O bound, or swapping due to low available memory.

 On Mon, Jun 25, 2012 at 10:00 PM, Mark Phillips 
 m...@phillipsmarketing.biz wrote:

 Nope - everything just stops - ping waits for a response, web services
 just wait for the server, file transfers stop and wait...as if time
 just stopped for the server, then starts again without any errors being
 evident.

 Mark


 On Mon, Jun 25, 2012 at 9:57 PM, Stephen cryptwo...@gmail.com wrote:

 Can you do access any other services hosted by the server during this
 time? Or even an extended ping?
 On Jun 25, 2012 9:53 PM, Mark Phillips m...@phillipsmarketing.biz
 wrote:

 I have a headless server running Linux version 2.6.32-5-686 (Debian
 2.6.32-45) (da...@debian.org) (gcc version 4.3.5 (Debian 4.3.5-4) and
 no X or window manager, and I have noticed in the past couple of days that
 when I ssh in the server it occasionally stops responding for a minute or
 two, then comes back as if nothing had happened. It is a random event -
 maybe once an hour. I cannot find anything in the logs - no error messages.
 There is nothing wrong with the machine where I initiated the ssh session,
 and it is not connected to ssh. The server completely stops responding,
 then comes back as if nothing had happened.

 How would I go about diagnosing this problem?

 Thanks,

 Mark

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Re: OT Verizon Smart Phones

As a point of comparison, t-mobile offers an unlimited voice, text, and
data plan for 2 phones for $140/month. Unlimited data means 2 gb at 4g
speeds, and if you exceed that, they just throttle you back to 2g at no
additional charge. They have lots of good android smart phones available
(no iphones). I have had 4 phones with then for many many years, and I keep
renewing every 2 years.

Don't go to a franchise store unless you know it is a good one. Go to a
corporate store for best service.

Mark
On Jun 23, 2012 8:42 PM, Lyle Tuttle l.tut...@cox.net wrote:

  We have two Verizon HTC Thunderbolts - new in Feb 2011.

 $174/month, unlimited everything.voice, text, data...'

 Have never had it freeze; rebooted on its own once but I think that was an
 update.

 Worst problem is battery life.very short, even with larger battery.
 One day will go all day, next day need to charge twice in one day - low
 usage.go figure.

 Did you know verizon has a box that will serve as your phone?  $20/mo
 unlimited calls in/out..it received via cell signal and you plug your
 phone into it.and US Cellular has a small deck of cards, only half as
 thick Samsung hot spot$25 for up to 2 gig of data/month

 I learned the above after bad storm left sis-in-law without phone or
 internet for 4 days..guess what she has now!!?


 At 02:12 PM 6/22/2012, James Dugger wrote:

 I have been with Verizion ever since our other carrirer was buoght by them
 in the mid nineties.Â  I have had a Driod and currently have a Droid X.Â  I
 can't really compare the difference between carriers in dropped calls but
 we get are share of dropped calls as well.Â  My wife and son have the
 iphone 4s and love it.Â  My wife had an older Droid and it used to drop
 calls more than here iphone.Â  Having used both (my wife's iphone and my
 Droid X) my comparison would be as follows:

 Screen Freeze
 Droid - this happens quite often on both the older and newer Droids
 (though not as much on the X)
 iphone - rarely freezes.

 Keyboard key selection
 Droid - They both struggle (especially in the portrait keyboard) to pick
 the correct letter/number.
 iphone - Even with fat fingers it is uncanny to me how the portrait
 keyboard can still seem to pick the right letter/number

 Text completion
 Droid - Okay
 iphone - Great slightly faster

 Animatromics (screen responsiveness)
 Droid - slight hesitancy at times
 iphone - smooth and quick

 I have no experience with HTC however my brother has the Samsung Nexus II
 through Version and says that it runs circles around his old Droid, and is
 much closer to the iphone with respect to hardware responsiveness and
 features.

 Since the versions of OS Android is somewhat splintered across different
 devices, there are a couple of other points to consider if an android phone
 is your preferred choice:
 Google owns Android and Motorola ( Droid ), but Nexus is a Google
 sponsored partnership program for application and hardware development for
 the official release version of Android by Google.Â  Currently Samsung is
 the Nexus partner.Â

 This may have changed and I may be wrong, but it is my understanding that
 anything Android with the Nexus name is part of this partnership with
 Google.

 On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 10:01 AM, Stephen cryptwo...@gmail.com wrote:


 Android brutally fc's inactive apparently to free space before that goes.
 On Jun 22, 2012 9:59 AM, Eric Cope eric.c...@gmail.com wrote:
  Thats interesting to hear about not rebooting? Maybe the tide is
 changing. Someone I carpool with is also constantly having to close apps
 because the phone is out of memory. Does anyone else experience this?

 I think the iPhone forces stale apps out of memory automatically (I never
 get an out of memory notice). Can anyone comment on that?

 Eric

 On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 9:55 AM, Stephen cryptwo...@gmail.com wrote:

 I forgot.

 On a rooted phone there is an app that will backup your root so you can
 switch root on and off easily so you can do some root only tasks and then
 unroot for day to day.

 Its called voodoo ota rootkeeper
 On Jun 22, 2012 8:46 AM, keith smith klsmith2...@yahoo.com wrote:


 Hi,

 This is very OT.

 I have been with verizon for 8 years.Â  Voice only.Â  It has been 4 years
 since I upgraded our phones.Â  It is just my wife and I.Â

 We are thinking of going with smart phones.

 A friend suggested HTC phones because of the better quality of speaker and
 mic.Â  Voice quality is very important to me.Â

 As it stands we can get unlimited voice forÂ  $120/mo, 1000 texts for
 $10/mo and 2G of data for each phone for $20/ea/mo.Â  Total is about
 $170/mo + tax and fees.Â

 I like verizon because they have always provided top of the line service.

 I've briefly looked at Straigt-Talk, T-Mobile, and Sprint.Â  My fear with
 these providers is quality of the call, availability, and dropped calls.

 Any suggestions on which phone to get?Â  From prior conversations on this
 list it seems a Droid

Re: OT Verizon Smart Phones

You can check coverage at http://www.t-mobile.com/coverage/pcc.aspx (drill
down to the street level).

My personal experience

Seattle - great
Phoenix, Scottsdale, Mesa, Chandler, etc. - great
Payson - 4G - I loose connectivity in the mountains on the way to Payson
Pinetop/Lakeside/Show Low - 2G/4G roaming - depends on location
Greater LA - great
SF and Bay Area - great
Northern Idaho camping near the Canadian border - no coverage...ATT has
some coverage in this area!
Driving to Tucson - no loss of signal as far as I remember. Tucson has
great coverage

YMMV

Mark

On Sun, Jun 24, 2012 at 10:49 AM, keith smith klsmith2...@yahoo.com wrote:


 What about service - like out in rural areas.  Between here and Tucson.  I
 like T-Mobile's plan and price points, however I am concerned about
 coverage.

 Please share your thoughts.

 Thanks!

 
 Keith Smith

 --- On *Sun, 6/24/12, Mark Phillips m...@phillipsmarketing.biz* wrote:


 From: Mark Phillips m...@phillipsmarketing.biz

 Subject: Re: OT Verizon Smart Phones
 To: Main PLUG discussion list plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us
 Date: Sunday, June 24, 2012, 9:22 AM


 As a point of comparison, t-mobile offers an unlimited voice, text, and
 data plan for 2 phones for $140/month. Unlimited data means 2 gb at 4g
 speeds, and if you exceed that, they just throttle you back to 2g at no
 additional charge. They have lots of good android smart phones available
 (no iphones). I have had 4 phones with then for many many years, and I keep
 renewing every 2 years.

 Don't go to a franchise store unless you know it is a good one. Go to a
 corporate store for best service.

 Mark
 On Jun 23, 2012 8:42 PM, Lyle Tuttle 
 l.tut...@cox.nethttp://mc/compose?to=l.tut...@cox.net
 wrote:

  We have two Verizon HTC Thunderbolts - new in Feb 2011.

 $174/month, unlimited everything.voice, text, data...'

 Have never had it freeze; rebooted on its own once but I think that was an
 update.

 Worst problem is battery life.very short, even with larger battery.
 One day will go all day, next day need to charge twice in one day - low
 usage.go figure.

 Did you know verizon has a box that will serve as your phone?  $20/mo
 unlimited calls in/out..it received via cell signal and you plug your
 phone into it.and US Cellular has a small deck of cards, only half as
 thick Samsung hot spot$25 for up to 2 gig of data/month

 I learned the above after bad storm left sis-in-law without phone or
 internet for 4 days..guess what she has now!!?


 At 02:12 PM 6/22/2012, James Dugger wrote:

 I have been with Verizion ever since our other carrirer was buoght by them
 in the mid nineties.Â  I have had a Driod and currently have a Droid X.Â  I
 can't really compare the difference between carriers in dropped calls but
 we get are share of dropped calls as well.Â  My wife and son have the
 iphone 4s and love it.Â  My wife had an older Droid and it used to drop
 calls more than here iphone.Â  Having used both (my wife's iphone and my
 Droid X) my comparison would be as follows:

 Screen Freeze
 Droid - this happens quite often on both the older and newer Droids
 (though not as much on the X)
 iphone - rarely freezes.

 Keyboard key selection
 Droid - They both struggle (especially in the portrait keyboard) to pick
 the correct letter/number.
 iphone - Even with fat fingers it is uncanny to me how the portrait
 keyboard can still seem to pick the right letter/number

 Text completion
 Droid - Okay
 iphone - Great slightly faster

 Animatromics (screen responsiveness)
 Droid - slight hesitancy at times
 iphone - smooth and quick

 I have no experience with HTC however my brother has the Samsung Nexus II
 through Version and says that it runs circles around his old Droid, and is
 much closer to the iphone with respect to hardware responsiveness and
 features.

 Since the versions of OS Android is somewhat splintered across different
 devices, there are a couple of other points to consider if an android phone
 is your preferred choice:
 Google owns Android and Motorola ( Droid ), but Nexus is a Google
 sponsored partnership program for application and hardware development for
 the official release version of Android by Google.Â  Currently Samsung is
 the Nexus partner.Â

 This may have changed and I may be wrong, but it is my understanding that
 anything Android with the Nexus name is part of this partnership with
 Google.

 On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 10:01 AM, Stephen 
 cryptwo...@gmail.comhttp://mc/compose?to=cryptwo...@gmail.com
 wrote:


 Android brutally fc's inactive apparently to free space before that goes.
 On Jun 22, 2012 9:59 AM, Eric Cope 
 eric.c...@gmail.comhttp://mc/compose?to=eric.c...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  Thats interesting to hear about not rebooting? Maybe the tide is
 changing. Someone I carpool with is also constantly having to close apps
 because the phone is out of memory. Does anyone else experience this?

 I think the iPhone forces

Need Help setting up a VPN Connection to my LAN

I need to take my laptop on several road trips, and I need to connect back
to my home office LAN - all Debian machines. I am on COX cable with a
BEFSX41 router. The BEFSX41 has a VPN option that I have never used. What
do I need to add to my laptop (Debian) to talk to my home office LAN
securely (ie through a VPN) using my BEFSX41? Obviously, I am a complete
nube when it comes to setting up VPN access to my LAN. I have googled for
some recommendations, but I have not found a good reference to follow.

Thanks,

Mark
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Re: Need Help setting up a VPN Connection to my LAN

Stephen,

Thanksthere are tons of options on the device. But I read that I need a
vpn server on my LAN.other posts say no.Most of the information I
found in forums is several years old, so I thought someone with more
experience than me could point me to a better manual. I read this
http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/489, but again it is over 5
years old, so perhaps there is a better solution?

This is the manual page from the BEFSX41.I am not completely sure which
options to use. Plus, I assume I may need something running on my laptop -
OpenVPN? Do I need a VPN server on my LAN, or something else, to be able to
login to my different machines?

Mark

*VPN** Passthrough*

This Router supports IPSec, PPTP, and PPPoE Passthrough. You can select
either *Enable* or *Disable* for these options.
--

*VPN*

*Select Tunnel Entry*- Select the tunnels number you want to set up.

*Delete*- click this to remove any entries made for this tunnel you
selected.

*Summary*- Click this button to display the status of all the tunnels.

*IPSec VPN Tunnel*- Select *Enabled* to create a tunnel or *Disabled* to
close the tunnel.

*Tunnel Name*- Once the tunnel is enabled, enter an arbitrary name for the
tunnel you are about to create.

*Local Secure Group*

This allows you to grant local computer access to this tunnel.
SubnetThis will allow all computers on the local subnet to access the
tunnel. Enter the IP Address and Mask to allow access to the tunnel.IP
Addr.This
only allows the local computer with the specified IP address. Enter the IP
address you want to allow access to the tunnel.IP RangeThis allows a range
of local computers to access the tunnel.  Enter the IP address range
allowed to access the tunnel.

* Remote Secure Group*

This allows you grant remote computers access to this tunnel.
SubnetThis will allow all computers on the remote subnet to access the
tunnel. Enter the IP Address and Mask to allow access to the tunnel.IP
Addr.This
only allows the remote computer with the specified IP address. Enter the IP
address you want to allow access to the tunnel.IP RangeThis allows a range
of remote computers to access the tunnel.  Enter the IP address range
allowed to access the tunnel.HostWhen this is selected, the settings will
be the same as the Remote Security Gateway. AnyThis option will allow any
IP address from a remote location to access this tunnel.

* Remote Secure Gateway*

This sets the remote end of the VPN tunnel. You can either specify the IP
address, Domain, or Any.
IP Addr.Enter the IP address of the remote tunnel you will connect.DomainThis
option lets you enter the fully qualified domain name. If you do not have
an IP address, you have an option to enter the domain of the tunnel you are
connecting to.AnyThis will will allow any tunnel connection to be
established.



*Encryption*
DESData Encryption Standard (DES) is a type of encryption for this VPN
tunnel. If you select this option, make sure the other end of the tunnel
uses the same encryption type.3DESTriple Data Encryption Standard (3DES) is
a stronger type of encryption for this VPN Tunnel. If you select this
option, make sure the other end of the tunnel uses the same encryption type.
DisableThis option will not encrypt for this tunnel.

*Authentication*
MD5Message-Digest Algorithm (MD5)- Generates 128-bit message digest based
on the input.  If you select this option, make sure the other end of the
tunnel uses the same authentication type.SHASecure Hash Algorithm (SHA)-
Generates 160-bit message digest based on the input.  If you select this
option, make sure the other end of the tunnel uses the same authentication
type.DisabledThis option will not authenticate for this tunnel.

*Key Management*

In order for any encryption to occur, the two ends of the tunnel must agree
on the type of encryption.  This is done by sharing a key to  encrypt
code. You can select *Auto (IKE)* or *Manual*.

*Automatic Key Management*
PFSPerfect Forward Secrecy (PFS) ensures that the initial key exchange and
IKE proposal are secure. This must be the same for both end of the
tunnel.Pre-shared
KeyEnter a series of number and letters that will be used as your key. This
must be the same for both end of the tunnel.Key LifetimeEnter a number of
seconds for the life of the key. After the key lifetime expires, a new code
will be generated. This much be the same for both end of the tunnel.

*Manual Key Management*
Encryption keyEnter a series of letters or numbers to generate an
encryption key. This must be the same for both end of the tunnel.Authentication
KeyEnter a series of letters or numbers to generate an authentication key. This
must be the same for both end of the tunnel.Inbound SPIEnter a series of
letter or numbers to generate the Inbound SPI. This must match the outbound
SPI on the other end of the tunnel.Outbound SPIEnter a series of letter or
numbers to generate the outbound SPI.  This must match the inbound SPI

Re: Need Help setting up a VPN Connection to my LAN

Thanks for all the comments. Based on what you have said and further
research, I have come to the conlusion...

1. I need to install openvpn on a machine on my lan and on my laptop.
2. I will follow these instructions for installation and configuration -
http://openvpn.net/index.php/open-source/documentation/howto.html#quick
3. Just enable all the vpn options on my BEFSX41 and pray it all
connects...;)

fallbackpurchase a cisco pix 501 and play with that.

Thanks!

Mark
On Sun, Jun 24, 2012 at 3:20 PM, Lisa Kachold lisakach...@obnosis.comwrote:

Hi Mark,

The BEFSX41's were not completely configured for anything but
SITE---SITE VPN. An IPSEC tunnel to tunnel can be setup evidently to
work with a linux VPN client. where you have a static client IP address (no
NAT), but you are correct, it's a bit of work.

And there are some known issues:
http://homecommunity.cisco.com/t5/Wired-Routers/VPN-works-causes-periodic-freezes-of-BEFSX41/m-p/227179?comm_cc=HSuscomm_lang=en#226944

Version:
Do you have BEFSX41 v1 or v2? With the most recent firmware, the VPN page
should look like this:
http://ui.linksys.com/files/BEFSX41/1.52.5/Security-VPN-Tunnel-Enabled.htm

Linksys QuickVPN software and cisco VPN client will not work for IPSEC or
this router. Linksys has instructions for setting up an IPSEC tunnel for
the BEFSX41 (which is all it supports):
http://homesupport.cisco.com/en-us/wireless/lbc/BEFSX41

As you can see, you can, with this router, do passthrough and OpenVPN is
so nice, easy and powerful, I recommend you just use it (rather than try to
configure VPNs from this router) [simply check all three boxes on the
BEFSX41 and save].

OpenVPN Access Server (OpenVPN-AS) is a set of installation and
configuration tools that simplify the rapid deployment of a VPN remote
access solution. It is based on the popular OpenVPN open-source software,
making the deployed VPN immediately compatible with OpenVPN client software
across multiple user platforms.* *The server configurations options
supported are a carefully selected subset of a quite large set of possible
OpenVPN configurations. Thus, OpenVPN Access Server streamlines the
configuration and management of an OpenVPN-based secure remote access
deployment.
You can get OpenVPNAS here (for Ubuntu, Fedora, CentOs and Redhat, as well
as VirtualMachine images):
http://openvpn.net/index.php/download/access-server-downloads.html

To configure OpenVPN client in Linux:
Simply surf to the port you setup for your OpenVPNAS server [usually
80/443] (be sure to port forward as needed) and login with the user name
and password you setup and it will prompt you to download your client for
Linux, OS X, or Windows.

Client configuration instructions for Sentinel to BEFSX41: (useful for
setting options in your linux client):
http://www.homenethelp.com/vpn/router-config.asp

On Jun 24, 2012 1:00 PM, Mark Phillips m...@phillipsmarketing.biz
wrote:

I need to take my laptop on several road trips, and I need to connect
back to my home office LAN - all Debian machines. I am on COX cable with a
BEFSX41 router. The BEFSX41 has a VPN option that I have never used. What
do I need to add to my laptop (Debian) to talk to my home office LAN
securely (ie through a VPN) using my BEFSX41? Obviously, I am a complete
nube when it comes to setting up VPN access to my LAN. I have googled for
some recommendations, but I have not found a good reference to follow.

Thanks,

Mark

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Re: Need Help setting up a VPN Connection to my LAN

Thanks for all the comments. Based on what you have said and further
research, I have come to the conlusion...

fallbackpurchase a cisco pix 501 and play with that.

Thanks!

Mark

On Sun, Jun 24, 2012 at 3:20 PM, Lisa Kachold lisakach...@obnosis.comwrote:

Hi Mark,

And there are some known issues:
http://homecommunity.cisco.com/t5/Wired-Routers/VPN-works-causes-periodic-freezes-of-BEFSX41/m-p/227179?comm_cc=HSuscomm_lang=en#226944

Version:
Do you have BEFSX41 v1 or v2? With the most recent firmware, the VPN page
should look like this:
http://ui.linksys.com/files/BEFSX41/1.52.5/Security-VPN-Tunnel-Enabled.htm

Client configuration instructions for Sentinel to BEFSX41: (useful for
setting options in your linux client):
http://www.homenethelp.com/vpn/router-config.asp

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wrote:

Thanks,

Mark

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Re: Need Help setting up a VPN Connection to my LAN

Lisa,

Don't I have to pay a license fee for the OpenVPN Access Server? When I
looked on the site, I was prompted to buy a license.

Mark

On Sun, Jun 24, 2012 at 7:09 PM, Lisa Kachold lisakach...@obnosis.comwrote:

 Hi Mark,

 Just so you know, OpenVPN Access Server, automatically sets up all the
 databases, certificates and web management.  It's REALLY EASY SOLID and
 simple.  You get something like 3 free licenses.

 I don't recommend you mess around with the regular OpenVPN instructions
 (as linked below on your response) - unless you are masochistic.

 Use these:
 http://openvpn.net/index.php/access-server/docs/quick-start-guide.html

 Excerpt:

 *Linux Distribution:*
 You will need to make sure you download the package that corresponds with
 the current OS Distro, we currently support these Linux Distros:
 - Ubuntu
 - RHEL
 - Fedora
 - CentOS
 - Debian (Install Ubuntu Packages for Debian)

 Click here to download the OpenVPN Access Server 
 packageshttp://openvpn.net/index.php/access-server/download-openvpn-as-sw.html


 *CPU Architecture:
 *You will need to make sure you install the correct package depending on
 your CPU Architecture (32bit or 64bit)
 *
 Installing the OpenVPN-AS Package:
 *To Install the OpenVPN-AS package in Ubuntu or Debian you will need to
 run this command:

 *dpkg -i openvpnasdebpack.deb*

 To install the OpenVPN-AS package in CentOS, RHEL, or Fedora you will need
 to run this command:

 *rpm -i openvpnasrpmpack.rpm*

 The Admin Account for OpenVPN-AS needs to be setup through terminal by
 doing the following:

 Change the password:

 passwd openvpn

 You will then be prompted to set a password for the user openvpn, after
 setting the password you can login to the Admin UI with the Username
 openvpn and the password you set.

 *Note: In some circumstances for certain configurations you may need to
 run the complete ovpn-init script terminal:
 /usr/local/openvpn_as/bin/ovpn-init*

 *Configuring the Admin Web Interface:
 *After you have completed the Initial Configuration Tool you should then
 be able to access the Admin Web Interface through your preferred web
 browser. You should have noticed an link to the Admin Web Interface after
 you completed the Initial Configuration Tool, if you missed it you can
 access the Admin Web Interface by typing the following in your browsers
 address bar: https://openvpnasip/admin https://openvpnasip:943/admin (Please
 replace openvpnasip with the IP you allocated to your openvpn-as instance)
  https://openvpnasip:943/admin
 You can now go ahead and login with your openvpn admin credentials. Once
 logged in you will see the following screen:

 end excerpt


 On Sun, Jun 24, 2012 at 6:08 PM, Mark Phillips m...@phillipsmarketing.biz
  wrote:

 Thanks for all the comments. Based on what you have said and further
 research, I have come to the conlusion...

 1. I need to install openvpn on a machine on my lan and on my laptop.
 2. I will follow these instructions for installation and configuration -
 http://openvpn.net/index.php/open-source/documentation/howto.html#quick
 3. Just enable all the vpn options on my BEFSX41 and pray it all
 connects...;)

 fallbackpurchase a cisco pix 501 and play with that.

 Thanks!

 Mark
 On Sun, Jun 24, 2012 at 3:20 PM, Lisa Kachold lisakach...@obnosis.comwrote:

 Hi Mark,

 The BEFSX41's were not completely configured for anything but
 SITE---SITE VPN.  An IPSEC tunnel to tunnel can be setup evidently to
 work with a linux VPN client. where you have a static client IP address (no
 NAT), but you are correct, it's a bit of work.

 And there are some known issues:
 http://homecommunity.cisco.com/t5/Wired-Routers/VPN-works-causes-periodic-freezes-of-BEFSX41/m-p/227179?comm_cc=HSuscomm_lang=en#226944

 Version:
 Do you have BEFSX41 v1 or v2?  With the most recent firmware, the VPN
 page should look like this:

 http://ui.linksys.com/files/BEFSX41/1.52.5/Security-VPN-Tunnel-Enabled.htm

 Linksys QuickVPN software and cisco VPN client will not work for IPSEC
 or this router.  Linksys has instructions for setting up an IPSEC tunnel
 for the BEFSX41 (which is all it supports):
 http://homesupport.cisco.com/en-us/wireless/lbc/BEFSX41

 As you can see, you can, with this router, do passthrough and OpenVPN is
 so nice, easy and powerful, I recommend you just use it (rather than try to
 configure VPNs from this router) [simply check all three boxes on the
 BEFSX41 and save].

 OpenVPN Access Server (OpenVPN-AS) is a set of installation and
 configuration tools that simplify the rapid deployment of a VPN remote
 access solution. It is based on the popular OpenVPN open-source software,
 making the deployed VPN immediately compatible with OpenVPN client software
 across multiple user platforms.* *The server configurations options
 supported are a carefully selected subset of a quite large set of possible
 OpenVPN configurations. Thus, OpenVPN Access Server streamlines the
 configuration and management of an OpenVPN-based

Looking for Streaming Media Software Recommendations

2012-06-22 Thread Mark Phillips

I have a underused Debian headless server, a network enabled DLNA TV,
so.why not stream some movies to this TV? I am looking for
recommendations for a streaming media server that will run on a headless
Debian server.

Thanks!

Mark
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Re: Has Anyone Used OwnCloud?

2012-06-21 Thread Mark Phillips

Lisa,

Thanks for the link. I guess I will just have to install it and see how it
works.

Mark

On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 6:02 AM, Lisa Kachold lisakach...@obnosis.comwrote:

 Hi Mark,

 On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 5:31 PM, Mark Phillips m...@phillipsmarketing.biz
  wrote:

 I was googling how to build your own cloud storage, and ran across
 owncloud.org. A glorified webdav server. Does anyone have any experience
 with it?


 This looks interesting:


 http://www.howtoforge.com/your-cloud-your-data-your-way-owncloud-4.0-nginx-postgresql-on-centos-6.2


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Re: Has Anyone Used OwnCloud?

2012-06-20 Thread Mark Phillips

Crawford,

Thanks for your email. I have read conflicting reports in some forums that
the file transfers (backing up user data) are slow. Is this true? Also, are
there sync clients for different OSes that automate client backups?

Thanks,

Mark
On Jun 20, 2012 12:24 PM, Crawford Rainwater 
crawford.rainwa...@linux-etc.com wrote:

 Mark:

 Linux ETC has set ownCloud up for a client and has it as a demo site on
 our web server as well.  It uses SabreDAV in the backend, so a little
 different than the typical WebDAV for API calls.  We are still debating
 offering this as a service as well for general public use based on the
 storage size allocated on a monthly basis.

 What else would you like to know? ;-)

 --- Crawford

 The Linux ETC Company
 10121 Yates Court
 Westminster, CO 80031 USA
 voice:  +1.303.604.2550
 web:http://www.linux-etc.com

 Please do not print this email unless it is absolutely necessary.  Be
 friendly to the environment by saving paper.

 - Mark Phillips m...@phillipsmarketing.biz wrote: -
 
  I was googling how to build your own cloud storage, and ran across
  owncloud.org. A glorified webdav server. Does anyone have any
  experience
  with it?
 
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Re: OT: Dell disks

2012-06-19 Thread Mark Jarvis


  
  

  Thanks to all who responded. Sounds like no problem.
  
  Thanks again,
  
  Mark
  
  

Mark Jarvis wrote:


  
  
I'm considering buying a Dell desktop (Inspiron 620), but a few
years ago I was warned off them because Dell did something
different to their disks so that you had to buy
replacement/additional disks only from Dell. Any chance that
it's still true?
   
  
  
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Has Anyone Used OwnCloud?

2012-06-19 Thread Mark Phillips

I was googling how to build your own cloud storage, and ran across
owncloud.org. A glorified webdav server. Does anyone have any experience
with it?

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OT: Dell disks

2012-06-18 Thread Mark Jarvis


  
  

  I'm considering buying a Dell desktop (Inspiron 620), but a few
  years ago I was warned off them because Dell did something
  different to their disks so that you had to buy
  replacement/additional disks only from Dell. Any chance that it's
  still true?

  


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Re: Problems with Ubuntu 12.04 Networking on Latitude D620

2012-06-14 Thread Mark Phillips

Michael,

Thanksno blinky lights. I plugged into another network outlet, and the
network came up. Now for the spooky part.

I have two cables (red, blue) and 2 network connections (A, B) in the wall
going back to the router/switch and 2 computers (D260, 1520).

A --red--D260 = no blinky lights and no network connection
A --red--1520 = blinky lights and network connection
B --blue--D260 = blinky lights and network connection
B --blue--1520 = blinky lights and network connection

I tried a third cable from A to D260 and got blinky lights and network. I
think there is something wrong with the red cable. Do you agree?

Mark

On Thu, Jun 14, 2012 at 5:29 PM, Michael Butash mich...@butash.net wrote:

 Looks like you're not getting actual link - is the link up?

 sudo mii-tool eth0

 should see:

 eth0: negotiated 1000baseT-FD flow-control, link ok

 Should also see blinky lights on the nic.

 Do you use a dock with it?  They sometimes switch between dock and
 build-in causing one or the other not to work or link, even sometimes
 getting stuck, but that's usually a driver/os thing.

 -mb



 On 06/14/2012 05:20 PM, Mark Phillips wrote:

 I installed Ubuntu 12.04 on a Dell Latitude D620. I didn't expect any
 issues based on googling this laptop and Linux. However, I cannot get
 Ethernet or wifi to work.

 lspci shows the correct hardware

 Ethernet controller; Broadcom Corporation NetXtreme BCM5752 Gigibit
 Ethernet PCI Express (rev 2)
 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4311 802.11b/g WLAN (rev 01)

 I went into Network Connections and added a Wired connection and gave it
 a name and selected the MAc address for eth0 (in the drop down list),
 and selected automatic (DHCP) as the method for iP4

 I looked at /etc/network/interfaces
 auto lo
 iface lo inet loopback

 so I tried adding

 auto eth0

 but no luck. grep -i eth /var/log/syslog gives

 Network Manager[2029]: info (eth0): new Ethernet device (driver:'tg3'
 ifindex: 2)
 Network Manager[2029]: info (eth0): exported as
 /org/freedesktop/**NetworkManager/Devices/0
 Network Manager[2029]: info (eth0): mow managed
 Network Manager[2029]: info (eth0): device state change: unmanaged -
 unavailable (reason 'managed') [10 2 0 2]
 Network Manager[2029]: info (eth0): bringing up device
 Network Manager[2029]: info (eth0): preparing device
 Network Manager[2029]: info (eth0): deactivating device (reason
 'managed') [2]
 kernel: [1815.448547] ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): eth0: link is not ready
 kernel: [1815.449321] ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): eth0: link is not ready

 I looked at some forum posts on how to fix this, and the best I found
 was to edit NetworkManager.conf and set managed=true (it came false out
 of the box). That did not help.

 Thanks for any other suggestions you may have!

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Re: Problems with Ubuntu 12.04 Networking on Latitude D620

2012-06-14 Thread Mark Phillips

Lisa and Stephen,

I got the wired working...looks like a bad cable - see my previous post.
Have to take my starving daughter to dinner - they whine a lot when they
get hungry...;)

I will let you know about the wifi when I get back!

Thanks for the super quick responses!!!

Mark

On Thu, Jun 14, 2012 at 5:40 PM, Lisa Kachold lisakach...@obnosis.comwrote:

 Hi Mark,

 On Thu, Jun 14, 2012 at 5:20 PM, Mark Phillips m...@phillipsmarketing.biz
  wrote:

 I installed Ubuntu 12.04 on a Dell Latitude D620. I didn't expect any
 issues based on googling this laptop and Linux. However, I cannot get
 Ethernet or wifi to work.

 lspci shows the correct hardware

 Ethernet controller; Broadcom Corporation NetXtreme BCM5752 Gigibit
 Ethernet PCI Express (rev 2)
 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4311 802.11b/g WLAN (rev 01)

 I went into Network Connections and added a Wired connection and gave it
 a name and selected the MAc address for eth0 (in the drop down list), and
 selected automatic (DHCP) as the method for iP4

 I looked at /etc/network/interfaces
 auto lo
 iface lo inet loopback

 so I tried adding

 auto eth0

 but no luck. grep -i eth /var/log/syslog gives

 Network Manager[2029]: info (eth0): new Ethernet device (driver:'tg3'
 ifindex: 2)
 Network Manager[2029]: info (eth0): exported as
 /org/freedesktop/NetworkManager/Devices/0
 Network Manager[2029]: info (eth0): mow managed
 Network Manager[2029]: info (eth0): device state change: unmanaged -
 unavailable (reason 'managed') [10 2 0 2]
 Network Manager[2029]: info (eth0): bringing up device
 Network Manager[2029]: info (eth0): preparing device
 Network Manager[2029]: info (eth0): deactivating device (reason
 'managed') [2]
 kernel: [1815.448547] ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): eth0: link is not ready
 kernel: [1815.449321] ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): eth0: link is not ready

 I looked at some forum posts on how to fix this, and the best I found was
 to edit NetworkManager.conf and set managed=true (it came false out of the
 box). That did not help.

 Thanks for any other suggestions you may have!

 Mark


 It appears to be trying to use a tg3 driver - which is the ethernet.

 Follow these instructions to setup the /etc/network/interfaces networking
 for Network Manager:
 https://help.ubuntu.com/11.10/serverguide/network-configuration.html

 Example for /etc/network/interfaces:

 auto eth0
 iface eth0 inet dhcp
 pre-up /sbin/ethtool -s eth0 speed 1000 duplex full

 Manual test (non-persistent):

 #  sudo ifconfig eth0 192.168.1.50 netmask 255.255.255.0 up
 # route add default gw 192.168.1.1 eth0

 For your wireless:

 Please show us the output of:


 nm-tool
 lsmod | grep b43
 sudo iwlist scan



 sudo cat /var/log/syslog | grep -e b43 -e firmware -e wpa -e wlan -e etork | 
 tail -n55

 $ sudo apt-get install firmware-b43-installer
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Re: Problems with Ubuntu 12.04 Networking on Latitude D620

2012-06-14 Thread Mark Phillips

Wireless is now working, based on the info in this post:
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1604868page=58

Thanks!

Mark


On Thu, Jun 14, 2012 at 5:50 PM, Mark Phillips
m...@phillipsmarketing.bizwrote:

 Lisa and Stephen,

 I got the wired working...looks like a bad cable - see my previous post.
 Have to take my starving daughter to dinner - they whine a lot when they
 get hungry...;)

 I will let you know about the wifi when I get back!

 Thanks for the super quick responses!!!

 Mark

 On Thu, Jun 14, 2012 at 5:40 PM, Lisa Kachold lisakach...@obnosis.comwrote:

 Hi Mark,

 On Thu, Jun 14, 2012 at 5:20 PM, Mark Phillips 
 m...@phillipsmarketing.biz wrote:

 I installed Ubuntu 12.04 on a Dell Latitude D620. I didn't expect any
 issues based on googling this laptop and Linux. However, I cannot get
 Ethernet or wifi to work.

 lspci shows the correct hardware

 Ethernet controller; Broadcom Corporation NetXtreme BCM5752 Gigibit
 Ethernet PCI Express (rev 2)
 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4311 802.11b/g WLAN (rev 01)

 I went into Network Connections and added a Wired connection and gave it
 a name and selected the MAc address for eth0 (in the drop down list), and
 selected automatic (DHCP) as the method for iP4

 I looked at /etc/network/interfaces
 auto lo
 iface lo inet loopback

 so I tried adding

 auto eth0

 but no luck. grep -i eth /var/log/syslog gives

 Network Manager[2029]: info (eth0): new Ethernet device (driver:'tg3'
 ifindex: 2)
 Network Manager[2029]: info (eth0): exported as
 /org/freedesktop/NetworkManager/Devices/0
 Network Manager[2029]: info (eth0): mow managed
 Network Manager[2029]: info (eth0): device state change: unmanaged -
 unavailable (reason 'managed') [10 2 0 2]
 Network Manager[2029]: info (eth0): bringing up device
 Network Manager[2029]: info (eth0): preparing device
 Network Manager[2029]: info (eth0): deactivating device (reason
 'managed') [2]
 kernel: [1815.448547] ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): eth0: link is not ready
 kernel: [1815.449321] ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): eth0: link is not ready

 I looked at some forum posts on how to fix this, and the best I found
 was to edit NetworkManager.conf and set managed=true (it came false out of
 the box). That did not help.

 Thanks for any other suggestions you may have!

 Mark


 It appears to be trying to use a tg3 driver - which is the ethernet.

 Follow these instructions to setup the /etc/network/interfaces networking
 for Network Manager:
 https://help.ubuntu.com/11.10/serverguide/network-configuration.html

 Example for /etc/network/interfaces:

 auto eth0
 iface eth0 inet dhcp
 pre-up /sbin/ethtool -s eth0 speed 1000 duplex full

 Manual test (non-persistent):

 #  sudo ifconfig eth0 192.168.1.50 netmask 255.255.255.0 up
 # route add default gw 192.168.1.1 eth0

 For your wireless:

 Please show us the output of:


 nm-tool
 lsmod | grep b43
 sudo iwlist scan



 sudo cat /var/log/syslog | grep -e b43 -e firmware -e wpa -e wlan -e etork | 
 tail -n55

 $ sudo apt-get install firmware-b43-installer
 $ sudo apt-get remove bcmwl-kernel-source

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Looking for Windows XP OEM Installation Media

2012-06-07 Thread Mark Phillips

I am refurbishing an old Dell Latitude D620 for my daughter. I am
installing Ubuntu 12.0.4, and I would like to have Windows XP run in
VirtualBox so she can access Itunes. I have several OEM Windows XP licenses
from other Dell machines that I have converted completely to Linux, but I
don't have any XP installation CDs. Dell won't send them to me. Does anyone
have an XP installation CD I can borrow?

If I am violating any laws with the request, please let me know. My simple
minded view is that I have a valid license, just not the media, so
borrowing the media for an installation should not be an issue.

Thanks,

Mark
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Re: Looking for Windows XP OEM Installation Media

2012-06-07 Thread Mark Phillips

DohI forgot that the D620 also has a key.

The key on the D620 is for XP Pro.

We can talk off list about how to meet.some dark alley in the city
where no one will see us;) mark at phillipsmarketing dot biz.

Mark

On Thu, Jun 7, 2012 at 11:09 AM, Stephen cryptwo...@gmail.com wrote:

 Find out if you have a key on that dell you are setting up. and hat
 version it is. I have a an XP pro and XP home OEM install media for
 that generation of latitude.

 On Thu, Jun 7, 2012 at 10:56 AM, Eric Shubert e...@shubes.net wrote:
  On 06/07/2012 09:52 AM, Mark Phillips wrote:
 
  I am refurbishing an old Dell Latitude D620 for my daughter. I am
  installing Ubuntu 12.0.4, and I would like to have Windows XP run in
  VirtualBox so she can access Itunes. I have several OEM Windows XP
  licenses from other Dell machines that I have converted completely to
  Linux, but I don't have any XP installation CDs. Dell won't send them to
  me. Does anyone have an XP installation CD I can borrow?
 
  If I am violating any laws with the request, please let me know. My
  simple minded view is that I have a valid license, just not the media,
  so borrowing the media for an installation should not be an issue.
 
  Thanks,
 
  Mark
 
 
  First off, IANAL, and YMMV.
 
  TTBOMK, Windoze OEM licenses are good only on the machine they're issued
  for. Your D620 probably has a license sticker on it though. You won't
  however be able to install a retail version of XP using the OEM license
 key.
 
  Windoze licenses vary regarding virtualized machines. For example, Vista
  Home Premium does not allow for running as a VM guest, while Vista
 Ultimate
  does (on the same hardware). I know that XP Pro allows running as a VM
 guest
  (on the same hardware), but I'm not sure about XP Home. Allowing for
  something in the license doesn't necessarily mean that it won't work
 though
  (I don't honestly know if it'd work or not).
 
  I would find a Dell XP installation disk, which will install on your D620
  w/out requiring activation. You might stop by AZStRUT some day to see if
 you
  can use theirs on site. Once you have XP on the bare hardware, you can
 use
  the P2V utility for VB to create the VM guest files. Then install Ubuntu
 and
  VB on the bare hardware, and copy in the VM guest files you created
 earlier.
  That's the best way I know of to get to where you want to be.
 
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To 64 Bit or Not To 64 Bit

2012-06-07 Thread Mark Phillips

Would you recommend running the 64 bit Ubuntu or 32 bit Ubuntu on this
hardware:

NameDell Latitude D620
ProcessorIntel Core Duo T2300 1.66Ghz
Screen14.1” WXGA
RAM4 GB
HDD320 GB
Optical DriveDVD+-RW
GraphicsIntel Graphics Media Accelerator 950
Network10/100/1000 Ethernet + Intel 3945 802.11g Wireless
Other4 x USB2.0

Thanks!

Mark
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Re: OT: computer/electronics recycling

2012-05-20 Thread Mark Phillips

Depending on the machine specs, I may be able to use for my daughters. I am
willing to drive to you and pick them up.

Mark
On May 20, 2012 12:25 PM, Dazed_75 lthiels...@gmail.com wrote:

 Oh, BTW, they are now putting Linux Mint on a lot of machines!

 On Sun, May 20, 2012 at 12:24 PM, Dazed_75 lthiels...@gmail.com wrote:

 http://www.azstrut.org/ is another possibility.  They also have a number
 of drop sites (click on Donations) and I see they now have an association
 with Batteries Plus which has a Scottsdale office.

 On Sun, May 20, 2012 at 12:05 PM, AZ Pete p...@cactusfamily.com wrote:

  Hi All,

 I have 2 old laptops that I'd like to get rid of and would prefer not to
 simply throw them in the trash. Is there a place I can drop them for
 recycling?  I live in North Scottsdale, so ideally a place in the vicinity
 would be great.

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Re: Problems Printing with Firefox

2012-05-14 Thread Mark Phillips

Hi Lisa,

Thanks so much for your great emails regarding firefox not showing any
printers in the print dialog. I never got it to work, so I stopped using
it. I was on version 10, and not that version 12 is out, I thought I would
give it a trywell the same thing is happening - no printers in the
print dialog.

I am running  Linux version 3.1.0-1-amd64 (Debian 3.1.8-2) (
b...@decadent.org.uk) (gcc version 4.6.2 (Debian 4.6.2-11) ) #1 SMP Tue Jan
10 05:01:58 UTC 2012 with firefox 12 and Cups 1.5.2. I have a network
connected HP Officejet Pro L7670 all in one printer at ip 192.168.25.102
(my local network). All my other browsers and application on all the
machines on the network can see this printer and print to it. gtklp version
1.2.7

my ~./gtkrc-2.0 has the following
gtk-print-backends = file,lpr,cups

I have no errors reported in /var/log/cups/errors/log when I try to print
from firefox (ie bring up the empty print dialog)

Firefox is running under the user mark, and mark is part of the group
lpadmin

My default printer is Officejet_Pro_L7600, and I can print from the command
line using lp

I did not have a print.print_printer, so I added one to the firefox config
(about:config) and used Officejet_Pro_L7600 as the name. If I reset the
value as recommended in some posts, it defaults to an empty string, and
then on a restart of firefox, that config element is no longer there. I
also have:
print.postscript.print_command /usr/bin/gtklp
print.print_command /usr/bin/gtklp

I have these installed:
/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/gtk-2.0/2.10.0/printbackends/libprintbackend-cups.so
/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/gtk-2.0/2.10.0/printbackends/libprintbackend-file.so
/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/gtk-2.0/2.10.0/printbackends/libprintbackend-lpr.so
/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/gtk-2.0/2.10.0/printbackends/libprintbackend-test.so

/usr/lib32/gtk-2.0/2.10.0/printbackends/libprintbackend-cups.so
/usr/lib32/gtk-2.0/2.10.0/printbackends/libprintbackend-file.so
/usr/lib32/gtk-2.0/2.10.0/printbackends/libprintbackend-lpr.so
/usr/lib32/gtk-2.0/2.10.0/printbackends/libprintbackend-test.so

Somewhere I read they are important...;)

Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated!

Thanks,

Mark


On Sun, Mar 18, 2012 at 4:15 PM, Lisa Kachold lisakach...@obnosis.comwrote:

 Also,  I forgot to clarify which gtkrc you needed to edit:

 This should go into ~/.gtkrc-2.0:

 gtk-print-backends = file,lpr,cups

 This is supposedly important.  Be sure to save the original so you can roll 
 back.


 On Sun, Mar 18, 2012 at 4:09 PM, Lisa Kachold lisakach...@obnosis.comwrote:



 On Sun, Mar 18, 2012 at 2:07 PM, Mark Phillips 
 m...@phillipsmarketing.biz wrote:



 On Sun, Mar 18, 2012 at 12:53 PM, Lisa Kachold 
 lisakach...@obnosis.comwrote:

 Hi Mark

 On Sun, Mar 18, 2012 at 11:51 AM, Mark Phillips 
 m...@phillipsmarketing.biz wrote:



 On Sun, Mar 18, 2012 at 10:01 AM, Lisa Kachold 
 lisakach...@obnosis.com wrote:

 Hi Mark

 On Sun, Mar 18, 2012 at 7:49 AM, Mark Phillips 
 m...@phillipsmarketing.biz wrote:

 I have Firefox 11.0 installed, as well as Google Chrome 17.0.963.65,
 Opera, and of course, Epiphany on my Debian testing machine. I use cups 
 for
 printing over the network to my hp printer. Chrome, Opera, Epiphany all
 recognize all the installed printers on my network, but Firefox does not
 see any of them. I don't even have the print to file option that most 
 posts
 on the subject talk about. When I look in firefox's about:config at all 
 the
 print* settings, the printer is there, but it does not show up in the 
 print
 dialog and I cannot print from firefox.
 Anyone else have this problem, and know how to solve it?

 Thanks,

 Mark


 Reference:  http://wiki.debian.org/SystemPrinting

 A) Have you logged into Cups to see if there is an error?


 http://localhost:631

 WHAT IS THE ERROR message in the logs?


 Yes, I have looked at the cups error logs as well as the admin portal.
 There are no errors from firefox, since it never sees any of the printers.
 All other applications (browsers, libreoffice, etc.) print without errors.


 snip


 B) If this is a permissions issue, you might have to add the
 Firefox invoking user to the group file:

 sudo usermod -a -G lpadmin tom

 firefox is running under user mark, and I am in the lpadmin group


 C) Are you using a postscript printer?  I see you are using printers
 that require postscript, but cups and GTK should work.


 gnome gtklp runs and finds all the printers.


 Also, why would the type of printer make a difference? If cups can
 print to that printer, why would firefox care, unless firefox doesn't use
 cups?


 Firefox (like all prebuilt binaries) can be sensitive to GTK issues.


 Firefox:
 1. First, if you haven't done so, you need to print to PostScript in
 order for the needed entry in prefs.js to be populated. This will be done
 automatically the first time you print. Open any web page and go to:

 File -- Print -- choose PostScript/default (it should be the
 default if you

Re: Considering a new laptop

2012-03-27 Thread Mark Phillips

I have been only used dell for the past 10 years, and never had any issues.
I currenty have a Dell vostro 1520, which works out of the box with Debian
testing. I run Windows in vmplayer when I have to use it.

Mark

On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 8:21 AM, Michael Butash mich...@butash.net wrote:

Same with Dell, they employ guys like Mario Limonciello supporting their
hardware that does a lot of compatibility testing and pushes fixes
internally with dell for bios and other vendor-supported features. I'd do
quick compat checks before buy, but Dell is usually a pretty safe option
for linux support I find.

I'd gone with a HP Elitebook for pure power (and 4 dimm slots for cheap
16gb ram) and other than raw performance, it's been an disaster for linux
support. ACPI and bios disk functions are broken at best, and they will
never fix them because their userbase is too small. How about just
making hardware that doesn't suck? Perfect example of a vendor parasite
around linux - happy to use it to sell servers, but nothing else.

-mb

On 03/27/2012 07:01 AM, Stephen wrote:

Good machines that tend to work if not support Linux is sager notebooks.

On Mar 27, 2012 6:35 AM, kitepi...@kitepilot.com
mailto:kitepilot@kitepilot.**com kitepi...@kitepilot.com
kitepi...@kitepilot.com

mailto:kitepilot@kitepilot.**com kitepi...@kitepilot.com wrote:

I would stay away from System76.
Bad BAD (and costly) experience...
ET
PS: YMMV...

Stephen writes:

The other option is a vendor like system76 they have a good bang
for buck
value. Or maybe red 7.
But the instant you add discrete graphics your battery life goes
way down.
Also the dell latitudes support linux quite well. Just not in an
official
sense.
On Mar 27, 2012 12:46 AM, Phillip Waclawski
waclaw...@mesacc.edu mailto:waclaw...@mesacc.edu wrote:

I have one of the Dell Ubuntu Laptops from about 6 years ago
(yes, they
did sell 1420n inspirons with linux pre-installed :). It
still works, but
the Intel Graphics card doesn't support Opengl very well, so
that makes
Blender, openshot and other programs on linux a pain, and
things like
wacraft literally impossible.
So, I've been thinking about

http://zareason.com/shop/__**Strata-6770.htmlhttp://zareason.com/shop/__Strata-6770.html

http://zareason.com/shop/**Strata-6770.htmlhttp://zareason.com/shop/Strata-6770.html
decked out
to the point I
want is about $1400, but the 6 cell battery with maybe 3
hours of battery
life...ugh

http://zareason.com/shop/__**Verix-2.5.htmlhttp://zareason.com/shop/__Verix-2.5.html

http://zareason.com/shop/**Verix-2.5.htmlhttp://zareason.com/shop/Verix-2.5.html
with a few
upgrades goes to
$2300 or so, everything I could want, but nearly $900 more.
I know you pay a bit of a premium going with a non top tier
vendor that
supports linux, but I've heard good things about them, and
enjoyed their
talk on RetroGnome at SCALE X.
What do folks think? And what other laptop vendors that
support Linux
(with good NVidia graphics cards in them, I won't do Intel
graphics ever
again).
Thanks
Phil Waclawski
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OT: SQL Question

2012-03-23 Thread Mark Phillips

I have a servlet/jsp/MySQL web site in production, and there are about
2,000 records in the flights table. One of the foreign keys is teacher_id.
Up to this point, there is a one to many relationship between teacher_id
and the data in the flights table. I need to change the data model to allow
for a many to many relationship between teacher_id and the data in the
flight table. What is the best way to do this?

Thanks,

Mark
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Problems Printing with Firefox

2012-03-18 Thread Mark Phillips

I have Firefox 11.0 installed, as well as Google Chrome 17.0.963.65, Opera,
and of course, Epiphany on my Debian testing machine. I use cups for
printing over the network to my hp printer. Chrome, Opera, Epiphany all
recognize all the installed printers on my network, but Firefox does not
see any of them. I don't even have the print to file option that most posts
on the subject talk about. When I look in firefox's about:config at all the
print* settings, the printer is there, but it does not show up in the print
dialog and I cannot print from firefox.
Anyone else have this problem, and know how to solve it?

Thanks,

Mark
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Re: Problems Printing with Firefox

2012-03-18 Thread Mark Phillips

On Sun, Mar 18, 2012 at 12:53 PM, Lisa Kachold lisakach...@obnosis.comwrote:

Hi Mark

On Sun, Mar 18, 2012 at 11:51 AM, Mark Phillips
m...@phillipsmarketing.biz wrote:

On Sun, Mar 18, 2012 at 10:01 AM, Lisa Kachold
lisakach...@obnosis.comwrote:

Hi Mark

On Sun, Mar 18, 2012 at 7:49 AM, Mark Phillips
m...@phillipsmarketing.biz wrote:

I have Firefox 11.0 installed, as well as Google Chrome 17.0.963.65,
Opera, and of course, Epiphany on my Debian testing machine. I use cups for
printing over the network to my hp printer. Chrome, Opera, Epiphany all
recognize all the installed printers on my network, but Firefox does not
see any of them. I don't even have the print to file option that most posts
on the subject talk about. When I look in firefox's about:config at all the
print* settings, the printer is there, but it does not show up in the print
dialog and I cannot print from firefox.
Anyone else have this problem, and know how to solve it?

Thanks,

Mark

Reference: http://wiki.debian.org/SystemPrinting

A) Have you logged into Cups to see if there is an error?

http://localhost:631

WHAT IS THE ERROR message in the logs?

Yes, I have looked at the cups error logs as well as the admin portal.
There are no errors from firefox, since it never sees any of the printers.
All other applications (browsers, libreoffice, etc.) print without errors.

B) What does system-config-printer say?
http://cyberelk.net/tim/software/system-config-printer/

Is it not postscript? See D - below related to firefox and postscript

Just curious - why would I use system-config-printer when I have the cups
web interface? According to the system-config-printer info on debian.org- In
terms of features, it (i.e. system-config-printer) aims to be as complete
as the CUPS web administration tool, while being integrated to the desktop.

C) If this is a permissions issue, you might have to add the Firefox
invoking user to the group file:

sudo usermod -a -G lpadmin tom

firefox is running under user mark, and I am in the lpadmin group

D) Are you using a postscript printer? Do you have kprinter installed?

I use gnome, not kde, so no kprinter. gtklp runs and finds all the
printers.

Also, why would the type of printer make a difference? If cups can print
to that printer, why would firefox care, unless firefox doesn't use cups?

Firefox:
1. First, if you haven't done so, you need to print to PostScript in
order for the needed entry in prefs.js to be populated. This will be done
automatically the first time you print. Open any web page and go to:

File -- Print -- choose PostScript/default (it should be the default
if you haven't installed any printers yet) -- click Print

The problem is that there are no printers int he File -- Print dialog,
so nothing to print to.

Once you have done this and it prints, it'll add the PostScript entry
you need to edit.

2. In the URL bar, type

about:config to open the config page.

3. In the Filter bar, type

print.printer_PostScript/default.print_command
This should filter everything out but that line.

4. Right-click on the line, click on Modify, and change the entry to
say

kprinter then click OK. This will make Firefox print to kprinter any
time you select the PostScript/default printer.

5. Right-click anywhere in the white space, then click on New --
Boolean to add a new Boolean entry. Type

print.always_print_silent

and set its value to true. This will force Firefox to print to the
default printer without prompting you. If PostScript/default is the only
printer you have and there are no local / network printers, it works great
and you can stop here. But if you installed a printer through CUPS, it
complicates things as Firefox will want to use that as a default and all
your prints will go there without prompting you! So even if you don't have
a local printer, it's a good idea to add the following line in case you add
one later.

6. Once again, right-click and choose New -- Boolean. Type

print.postscript.cups.enabled
and set its value to false. That will disable CUPS printing in
Firefox, and it will default to the PostScript/default printer. And since
you've changed the output of that to kprinter, you'll see a processing
dialog for a split second when you print, after which kprinter will open
up. There you can choose all your printers, including PDF, PostScript, and
any CUPS installed printers :) .

Did you verify the GTK?

Did you check for the gtkrc file?

I have a lot of gtkrc files -
locate gtkrc
/etc/gimp/2.0/gtkrc
/home/mark/.gimp-2.6/gtkrc
/home/mark/Desktop/buffalo_nas/new_firmware/filesystem/usr/share/vim/vim72/syntax/gtkrc.vim
/usr/lib/vmware/libconf/etc/gtk-2.0/Clearlooks.gtkrc
/usr/lib/vmware/libconf/etc/gtk-2.0/gtkrc
/usr/lib/vmware-installer/2.0/lib/libconf/etc/gtk-2.0/Clearlooks.gtkrc
/usr/lib/vmware-installer/2.0/lib/libconf/etc/gtk-2.0/gtkrc
/usr/share/eog/gtkrc
/usr/share/gimp/2.0

OT--HTML coding question

2012-02-26 Thread Mark Jarvis



I have a web site with a large number of hand coded pages. I have a 
block of code that needs to be inserted into each page. The problem is 
that the block will change occasionally as new material is added. 
Obviously, things would be much simpler if I could make the change in 
one place and have each page attach/include/link to/etc. a file 
containing that piece of code. If there is an HTML construct that allows 
that, I haven't found it.


If there is such a thing and someone could point me to it, It would be 
greatly  appreciated.


Mark Jarvis
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Re: OT--HTML coding question

2012-02-26 Thread Mark Jarvis



Thanks! It sounds like a good solution. If this was a commercial web 
site I'd probably do it. However this is something I'm doing on a 
volunteer basis using donated space and I'm trying to keep everything 
small and simple--especially simple.


Once again, thanks!

Mark

Matt Graham wrote:

From: Mark Jarvism.jar...@cox.net

I have a web site with a large number of hand coded pages. I have a
block of code that needs to be inserted into each page. The problem is
that the block will change occasionally as new material is added.
Obviously, things would be much simpler if I could make the change in
one place and have each page attach/include/link to/etc. a file
containing that piece of code. If there is an HTML construct that allows
that, I haven't found it.

It's called server-side includes, and it's relatively standard if you're
using Apache.  You have to have the directory you want to have server-side
includes enabled in with a config stanza kind of like so:

Directory /var/www/localhost/htdocs
Options Indexes FollowSymLinks Includes
/Directory
# note that Includes is the option you want to have enabled for this dir.
# that's the docroot of my webhost; modify for your setup
# make sure to restart apache if you change the config file

Once this has been done, all you have to do is to put a construct like so into
foobar.html:

!--#include virtual=/incs/nav.html --

...this tells apache that when it's reading foobar.html, it should read the
file /var/www/localhost/htdocs/incs/nav.html and insert that file's contents
into foobar.html at that point, before sending stuff to the client.[0]  This
is *really* useful.  At work, we basically depend on apache SSI to do 5 tons
of stuff, since many pages use the same stuff across the whole site for
navigation/menu bars/whatever.

If this didn't make any sense, holler.

[0] It can get a bit more complex than that, what with RewriteRules and other
stuff, but that'll get you started.

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Re: I need opinions.

2012-02-15 Thread Mark Phillips

Mike,

I believe the foundation of PLUG is the notion that members of the Plug
community give freely to each other as they can. For example, a member who
has many years of experience as a Linux sysadmin making 6 figures does not
ask a poster to donate $5 to them for solid advice on how to fix the
poster's problem. They give back to the community because they know someday
they will be the poster in need of assistance one day. Or, they give out of
the need to support this community out of the goodness of their heart.
With that said, I find your proposed post to be offensive and not at all
in the spirit of this community.

I also agree with Mike Bydalek that your proposed post is not even close to
the stated purpose of this forum -
We talk about the state of GNU/Linux, what we've recently done with
GNU/Linux, share problems and create solutions. (
http://plug.phoenix.az.us/aboutplug.html)

My 2 cents.

Mark

On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 5:00 PM, Mike Bydalek mike.byda...@gmail.comwrote:

Honestly, I don't think this is the proper forum for this. The ride
watching you bring up the site has been fun and entertaining, but this is a
Linux group, not an English group.

[snarky]You could use the free site you found and use someone there. I
understand there are proofreaders there ;) [/snarky]

-Mike

On 2/15/12 4:48 PM, Michael Havens wrote:

I created a webpage and I need opinions of the advertisement I'm putting
on it. Could you please proof read it and tell me if it would turn you off
or on or indifferant?
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-begin ad---

Mike here,

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Re: problem installing plone

1. Read the readme that came with the plone installation software.
2. install the dependencies that are listed in that readme.

Mark

On Thu, Feb 2, 2012 at 1:41 AM, Michael Havens bmi...@gmail.com wrote:

 okay, apparently that got rid of the 'bits' error but now  I get :

  ImportError: No module named _sha256

 I tried to apt-get install it but no dice doing that. I then ran apt-file
 search and  a list of 14 files popped up. Do I understand correctly that I
 need to  reinstall all these files? I did that for the bits error but there
 were only four files to reinstall.

 On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 8:26 PM, John jhari...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Your missing dependencies that plone needs to build properly. I look for
 an install readme file and look there first. Not sure which distro you but
 I also use apt-file with Ubuntu

 sudo apt-get install apt-file
 apt-file update
 apt-file search bits/predefs.h

 You'll then have to install the package that it says to. You'll have to
 keep doing this for each missing dep. It takes time but you'll eventually
 chip away the issues so it'll build. If no, you'll want to try and find a
 pre-built package.

   --
 *From:* Michael Havens bmi...@gmail.com
 *To:* Main PLUG discussion list PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us
 *Sent:* Sunday, January 29, 2012 2:37 PM
 *Subject:* Re: problem installing plone

 This is cool... I'm looklng through the install log and this might be
 relevant:

 Failed to find the necessary bits to build these modules:
 _bsddb _hashlib   _sqlite3
 _ssl   _tkinter   bsddb185
 bz2dbmgdbm
 linuxaudiodev  ossaudiodevsunaudiodev
 zlib
 To find the necessary bits, look in setup.py in detect_modules() for the
 module's name.

 (so what do they mean I should do?)
 (if these 'bits' are there where shuld I put them?)

 Failed to build these modules:
 crypt  nis
 ...
 Warning - could not find file bits/predefs.h
 Warning - could not find file sys/cdefs.h
 Warning - could not find file gnu/stubs.h
 Warning - could not find file bits/wchar.h
 Warning - could not find file bits/wordsize.h
 ...
 Warning - could not find file sys/socket.h
 Warning - could not find file bits/types.h
 ...
 Warning - could not find file bits/in.h
 Warning - could not find file bits/endian.h
 ...
 *** WARNING: renaming nis since importing it failed:
 build/lib.linux-i686-2.6/nis.so: undefined symbol: yp_master

 Failed to find the necessary bits to build these modules:
 _bsddb _hashlib   _sqlite3
 _ssl   _tkinter   bsddb185
 bz2dbmgdbm
 linuxaudiodev  ossaudiodevsunaudiodev
 zlib
 To find the necessary bits, look in setup.py in detect_modules() for the
 module's name.


 Failed to build these modules:
 crypt  nis
 ...


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Question about USB R/W Speed

I bought a new HP 32 GB USB stick. I plugged it into my Debian laptop to
make a quick back up of a large directory (~8 GB, lots of little files),
and it took overnight to transfer the files. Gnome reported that the
transfer speed was around 400 - 500 KB/sec. I then plugged the same stick
into the same port on my laptop, but transferred files (~1.5 GB lots of
little files) from Windows 7 running in VMPlayer, and got a transfer speed
of 4-5 MB/sec - 10 time faster! I checked the specs on the device, and HP
says it should r/w files at about 4-5 MB/sec. Is there some magic in
windows that makes USB sticks faster?

Thanks,

Mark
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Re: Question about USB R/W Speed

You are probably correct. I went back and checked the sizes of the
directories and the number of files:

Slow transfer - 213,255 files, 3.5 Gb = ~16.4KB/file
Fast Transfer - 803 files, 1.8 GB = 2.24 MB/file

I guess I won't return the stick as defective...;)

Mark

On Thu, Feb 2, 2012 at 8:47 AM, Adam McCullough ajmcc...@asu.edu wrote:

 I'm willing to bet that the 1.5GB of files were a lot larger and less
 numerous than the 8 GB of files you moved previously.

 It isn't Windows, it has to do with how file systems work. Moving a
 million 1 kb files is going to take a lot more time than moving a tarball
 of the same files -- even if they are the same size, bit for bit.

 On 2 February 2012 08:21, Mark Phillips m...@phillipsmarketing.bizwrote:

 I bought a new HP 32 GB USB stick. I plugged it into my Debian laptop to
 make a quick back up of a large directory (~8 GB, lots of little files),
 and it took overnight to transfer the files. Gnome reported that the
 transfer speed was around 400 - 500 KB/sec. I then plugged the same stick
 into the same port on my laptop, but transferred files (~1.5 GB lots of
 little files) from Windows 7 running in VMPlayer, and got a transfer speed
 of 4-5 MB/sec - 10 time faster! I checked the specs on the device, and HP
 says it should r/w files at about 4-5 MB/sec. Is there some magic in
 windows that makes USB sticks faster?

 Thanks,

 Mark

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Re: Question about USB R/W Speed

On Thu, Feb 2, 2012 at 9:22 AM, Matt Graham danceswithcr...@usa.net wrote:

 From: Mark Phillips m...@phillipsmarketing.biz
  Matt Graham danceswithcr...@usa.net wrote:
  If ehci_hcd isn't loaded, then USB2 devices will be limited to USB1
 speeds.
  OK, # lspci |grep -i ehci

 That just tells you whether an EHCI controller is present on the PCI bus
 (one
 is).  You want lsmod | grep ehci, which will tell you whether the
 ehci_hcd
 kernel module is loaded.


# lsmod | grep ehci
ehci_hcd   40215  0
usbcore   124095  5 uvcvideo,usbhid,uhci_hcd,ehci_hcd

Thanks...it is loaded.


  How do I check if devices are automounted with -o sync?

 This depends on whether you're using an automounter and which one you're
 using.  I can't help that much with the automounter config, since I always
 mount removable media manually and use fstab entries.  But if you plug the
 device in and start doing stuff with it, typing mount in a terminal
 should
 show you a bunch of output with a line like

 /dev/sdb1 on /mnt/somewhere type vfat (rw,noauto,users,umask=000)

 ...where the stuff within ()s is the options the device was mounted as.
 sync probably shouldn't be in there if you want the fastest possible I/O.


from mount, with the HP usb stick installed:
/dev/sdb1 on /media/usb0 type vfat
(rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime,uid=1000,fmask=0022,dmask=0022,codepage=cp437,iocharset=utf8,shortname=mixed,errors=remount-ro,user=mark)

No sync, so it was probably the file sizes?

Mark
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Re: problem installing plone

2012-02-01 Thread Mark Phillips

Mike,

John is correct - read the Readme file and install that dependencies.

From you log file, it looks as if you don't have zip installed - LookupError:
unknown encoding: zip
Python zlib support is missing; something went wrong in the zlib or python
build.

Mark

On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 8:26 PM, John jhari...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Your missing dependencies that plone needs to build properly. I look for
 an install readme file and look there first. Not sure which distro you but
 I also use apt-file with Ubuntu

 sudo apt-get install apt-file
 apt-file update
 apt-file search bits/predefs.h

 You'll then have to install the package that it says to. You'll have to
 keep doing this for each missing dep. It takes time but you'll eventually
 chip away the issues so it'll build. If no, you'll want to try and find a
 pre-built package.

   --
 *From:* Michael Havens bmi...@gmail.com
 *To:* Main PLUG discussion list PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us
 *Sent:* Sunday, January 29, 2012 2:37 PM
 *Subject:* Re: problem installing plone

 This is cool... I'm looklng through the install log and this might be
 relevant:

 Failed to find the necessary bits to build these modules:
 _bsddb _hashlib   _sqlite3
 _ssl   _tkinter   bsddb185
 bz2dbmgdbm
 linuxaudiodev  ossaudiodevsunaudiodev
 zlib
 To find the necessary bits, look in setup.py in detect_modules() for the
 module's name.

 (so what do they mean I should do?)
 (if these 'bits' are there where shuld I put them?)

 Failed to build these modules:
 crypt  nis
 ...
 Warning - could not find file bits/predefs.h
 Warning - could not find file sys/cdefs.h
 Warning - could not find file gnu/stubs.h
 Warning - could not find file bits/wchar.h
 Warning - could not find file bits/wordsize.h
 ...
 Warning - could not find file sys/socket.h
 Warning - could not find file bits/types.h
 ...
 Warning - could not find file bits/in.h
 Warning - could not find file bits/endian.h
 ...
 *** WARNING: renaming nis since importing it failed:
 build/lib.linux-i686-2.6/nis.so: undefined symbol: yp_master

 Failed to find the necessary bits to build these modules:
 _bsddb _hashlib   _sqlite3
 _ssl   _tkinter   bsddb185
 bz2dbmgdbm
 linuxaudiodev  ossaudiodevsunaudiodev
 zlib
 To find the necessary bits, look in setup.py in detect_modules() for the
 module's name.


 Failed to build these modules:
 crypt  nis
 ...


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Re: drupal or plone

2012-01-25 Thread Mark Phillips

Some other thoughts about plone from other plone developers...(Again, I
know nothing about Drupal)

- regarding usage:
Plone can be used immediately out-of-the-box (Drupal needs extra
configuration after installation before providing any services), and the
core features offer a very decent coverage, so you start building an entire
web site easily.
Plone is very easy to use, no specific knowledge is needed to start
producing content, Drupal is most part of time more difficult (let's
say Plone is contributor oriented, whereas Drupal is webmaster oriented). I
would agree about plone...install it and end users can start creating pages
of content right away. I set up a high school newspaper site with plone out
of the box, and the students were creating news stories, photo albums,
surveys, etc. within a couple of hours. All with the built in workflow, so
the school administration could review/approve/reject all content before it
was published to the Internet.

- regarding admin sys:
Plone provides a fully integrated architecture where you can easily deploy
clustering, caching, load balancing, etc...
whereas Drupal is only a component (actually a set of components providing
CMS features) that needs to be integrated in a global architecture. You may
not care with a small site, but as it grows or you need these things, they
are built in and just have to be turned on in plone.

- regarding development:
The Plone framework is much more robust and structured, all Plone products
respect its standards (and at all levels: component architecture,
testability, deployability, CSS classes, JS declaration,
internationalization, everything...).
Drupal is more unstructured and heterogeneous. There is also a large body
of open source Plone products to add new functionality and themes to change
the look and feel of the site.

Also, some other sources if information from the plone community -

http://www.sixfeetup.com/blog/plone-vs.-drupal
http://www.sixfeetup.com/blog/plone-vs-drupal-installation
http://www.sixfeetup.com/blog/plone-vs.-drupal-core-features-comparison

Six Feet Up is a plone developer of long standing and high involved with
the development of plone itself.

Have fun!

Mark

On Wed, Jan 25, 2012 at 2:43 AM, James Dugger james.dug...@gmail.comwrote:

 When I first got into web application development I tried both.  Plone was
 more intimidating to me than Drupal for the following reasons:

 1.  It was not based on a standard simple AMP Stack.  by AMP I mean
 Apache, MySQL, PHP.
 2.  I found the web site difficult to find tutorials and help, and the
 forums for newbies was not user friendly at least for me.
 3.  I was very new to high level scripting languages and PHP was and still
 is used more for web applications than Python.
 4.  By contrast not only did Drupal have easy to find tutorials for the
 framework but it even has tutorials on learning PHP.
 5.  There is a lot of information/documentation for modules.

 This was my experience three years ago.  Now before anyone goes crazy on
 me,  since this time I have come to really appreciate the elegance of
 python code in comparison to PHP, but at the time I new very little about
 it.  I believe that Plone is more extensible a framework than Drupal.  But
 here's a question does Plone have API's or modules to connect/extend it's
 capabilities with other applications like Alfresco, or Uberecart.  I know
 Plone is very powerful and scalable to very large enterprise level
 development, But then Drupal, combined with Alfresco, if
 developed/implemented efficiently can replace, and even convert much of
 traditional filesytem data such as docs and excel files and place the data
 in enterprise class CMS.

 Drupal is very flexible with style templating making it simple to
 modify/customize a web application to a specific customer.  They even have
 there own take on the CSS Zen Garden.  Because of this more web designers
 are getting into it for ease of site design without coding requirements.
 Drupal is also easily set up to run multiple sites through a single
 install.  With one installation you can host hundreds of sites as a VSP
 with minimal up keep.

 I really should look into Plone again because I am sure it can do most if
 not all of all I described above.  But of all of the communities I have
 experienced (considering forums, websites, tutorials, wiki's, and number of
 easy to access free modules) I like Drupal's over Joomla, Word Press, and
 Plone.  To me for open source apps, the apps community is everything.


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Re: drupal or plone

2012-01-25 Thread Mark Phillips

Mike,

As a general rule, if I install an application and it needs something, I
search the Debian repositories (since I run Debian - your distro may be
different) for that program before going the compile route. The reason? The
package in the repository knows where all packages are installed on your
system, and  the package manager will install any other dependencies you
need.

Mark

On Wed, Jan 25, 2012 at 9:57 AM, Michael Havens bmi...@gmail.com wrote:

 root@bt:~# locate fontconfig
 /etc/defoma/fontconfig.subst-rule
 /etc/java-6-openjdk/fontconfig.bfc
 /etc/java-6-openjdk/fontconfig.properties
 /opt/AutoScan/usr/lib/libfontconfig.so
 /opt/AutoScan/usr/lib/libfontconfig.so.1
 /opt/AutoScan/usr/lib/libfontconfig.so.1.2.0
 /opt/AutoScan/usr/var/cache/fontconfig

 /opt/AutoScan/usr/var/cache/fontconfig/105b9c7e6f0a4f82d8c9b6e39c52c6f9-x86.cache-2

 /opt/AutoScan/usr/var/cache/fontconfig/26de28bc8622bbc1fb67fd234c21975f-x86.cache-2

 /opt/AutoScan/usr/var/cache/fontconfig/365b55f210c0a22e9a19e35191240f32-x86.cache-2

 /opt/AutoScan/usr/var/cache/fontconfig/3830d5c3ddfd5cd38a049b759396e72e-x86.cache-2

 /opt/AutoScan/usr/var/cache/fontconfig/401a5dd6b567794a1d18dd9342dfa604-x86.cache-2

 /opt/AutoScan/usr/var/cache/fontconfig/515ca1ebc4b18308bea979be5704f9db-x86.cache-2

 /opt/AutoScan/usr/var/cache/fontconfig/6333f38776742d18e214673cd2c24e34-x86.cache-2

 /opt/AutoScan/usr/var/cache/fontconfig/6d41288fd70b0be22e8c3a91e032eec0-x86.cache-2

 /opt/AutoScan/usr/var/cache/fontconfig/6eb3985aa4124903f6ff08ba781cd364-x86.cache-2

 /opt/AutoScan/usr/var/cache/fontconfig/707971e003b4ae6c8121c3a920e507f5-x86.cache-2

 /opt/AutoScan/usr/var/cache/fontconfig/7ef2298fde41cc6eeb7af42e48b7d293-x86.cache-2

 /opt/AutoScan/usr/var/cache/fontconfig/945677eb7aeaf62f1d50efc3fb3ec7d8-x86.cache-2

 /opt/AutoScan/usr/var/cache/fontconfig/a341218890af1fe9ee20256633200406-x86.cache-2

 /opt/AutoScan/usr/var/cache/fontconfig/c855463f699352c367813e37f3f70ea7-x86.cache-2

 /opt/AutoScan/usr/var/cache/fontconfig/cabbd14511b9e8a55e92af97fb3a0461-x86.cache-2

 /opt/AutoScan/usr/var/cache/fontconfig/d52a8644073d54c13679302ca1180695-x86.cache-2

 /opt/AutoScan/usr/var/cache/fontconfig/d82eb4fd963d448e2fcb7d7b793b5df3-x86.cache-2

 /opt/AutoScan/usr/var/cache/fontconfig/e13b20fdb08344e0e664864cc2ede53d-x86.cache-2

 /opt/AutoScan/usr/var/cache/fontconfig/e383d7ea5fbe662a33d9b44caf393297-x86.cache-2

 /opt/AutoScan/usr/var/cache/fontconfig/fe547fea3a41b43a38975d292a2b19c7-x86.cache-2
 /opt/framework/java/lib/fontconfig.RedHat.2.1.bfc
 /opt/framework/java/lib/fontconfig.RedHat.2.1.properties.src
 /opt/framework/java/lib/fontconfig.RedHat.3.bfc
 /opt/framework/java/lib/fontconfig.RedHat.3.properties.src
 /opt/framework/java/lib/fontconfig.RedHat.4.bfc
 /opt/framework/java/lib/fontconfig.RedHat.4.properties.src
 /opt/framework/java/lib/fontconfig.RedHat.6.0.bfc
 /opt/framework/java/lib/fontconfig.RedHat.6.0.properties.src
 /opt/framework/java/lib/fontconfig.RedHat.bfc
 /opt/framework/java/lib/fontconfig.RedHat.properties.src
 /opt/framework/java/lib/fontconfig.SuSE.11.bfc
 /opt/framework/java/lib/fontconfig.SuSE.11.properties.src
 /opt/framework/java/lib/fontconfig.SuSE.bfc
 /opt/framework/java/lib/fontconfig.SuSE.properties.src
 /opt/framework/java/lib/fontconfig.Sun.bfc
 /opt/framework/java/lib/fontconfig.Sun.properties.src
 /opt/framework/java/lib/fontconfig.Turbo.bfc
 /opt/framework/java/lib/fontconfig.Turbo.properties.src
 /opt/framework/java/lib/fontconfig.Ubuntu.bfc
 /opt/framework/java/lib/fontconfig.Ubuntu.properties.src
 /opt/framework/java/lib/fontconfig.bfc
 /opt/framework/java/lib/fontconfig.properties.src
 /pentest/scanners/netifera/jre/lib/fontconfig.RedHat.2.1.bfc
 /pentest/scanners/netifera/jre/lib/fontconfig.RedHat.2.1.properties.src
 /pentest/scanners/netifera/jre/lib/fontconfig.RedHat.3.bfc
 /pentest/scanners/netifera/jre/lib/fontconfig.RedHat.3.properties.src
 /pentest/scanners/netifera/jre/lib/fontconfig.RedHat.8.0.bfc
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 /pentest/scanners/netifera/jre/lib/fontconfig.RedHat.9.0.properties.src
 /pentest/scanners/netifera/jre/lib/fontconfig.RedHat.bfc
 /pentest/scanners/netifera/jre/lib/fontconfig.RedHat.properties.src
 /pentest/scanners/netifera/jre/lib/fontconfig.SuSE.bfc
 /pentest/scanners/netifera/jre/lib/fontconfig.SuSE.properties.src
 /pentest/scanners/netifera/jre/lib/fontconfig.Sun.2003.bfc
 /pentest/scanners/netifera/jre/lib/fontconfig.Sun.2003.properties.src
 /pentest/scanners/netifera/jre/lib/fontconfig.Sun.bfc
 /pentest/scanners/netifera/jre/lib/fontconfig.Sun.properties.src
 /pentest/scanners/netifera/jre/lib/fontconfig.Turbo.8.0.bfc
 /pentest/scanners/netifera/jre/lib/fontconfig.Turbo.8.0.properties.src
 /pentest/scanners/netifera/jre/lib/fontconfig.Turbo.bfc
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Re: Red Hat Certified Engineer Training

This article on Anki might help you with your studies.

https://www.linux.com/learn/tutorials/536896:teach-yourself-with-anki-open-source-flashcards-on-linux

Mark

On Sat, Jan 21, 2012 at 2:16 PM, Bryan O'Neal 
bryan.on...@theonealandassociates.com wrote:

 Wow. That sounds great! However Monday is not enough notice. When will
 the next round start?


 On 1/20/12, mike enriquez myli...@cox.net wrote:
  Check with the Red Hat Academy at Estrella Community College.
  Monday will be the first day for the  review class for the Red Hat exam.
  The instructor for the class is Randy Larson.
  With Randy teaching it, it will be a great class to attend for a review.
  And it will not cost more than the typical Community Rates.
 
  Let me know if you need more info and I will try to get it for you.
  Thanks
  Mike Enriquez
 
 
  On 01/20/2012 09:56 AM, tho...@redhat.com wrote:
  -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
  Hash: SHA1
 
  On 01/17/2012 04:35 PM, Lisa Kachold wrote:
  Where is the best Red Hat Certified Engineer Training here in
  town?
 
  Prices?  Schedule?  Test dates?
  http://www.redhat.com/certification/rhce/
 
  You should also probably read through the certification FAQ:
 
  http://www.redhat.com/certification/faq/
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Re: drupal or plone

One point - zope/plone may be more secure than drupal. Searching the NVD (
http://web.nvd.nist.gov) for plone and drupal over the last three year,
plone had 11 reported vulnerabilities, and drupal had 218.

disclaimer - I have never used drupal, so I know nothing about it. I have
used zope/plone for a couple of years, and even though it has a steep
learning curve, I have found it to be very powerful and fun to use. The
plone community is very helpful and courteous.

Your question is a little bit like how high is up? The answer depends a lot
on the requirements of the project.

Please no flame wars on this topicI have no vested interest in either
framework.

Mark

On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 10:27 AM, Michael Havens bmi...@gmail.com wrote:

 I was reading about Drupal on wikipedia. This is a small portion of what
 it has to say:

  When compared to three other well-known open source CMS platforms
 covered by the
  MITRE CVE database, Drupal ranked second - after 
 Plonehttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plone_%28software%29but before
 WordPress http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WordPress and 
 Joomlahttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joomla
 .[76] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drupal#cite_note-75

 So let's talk about Plone. Why was it ranked ahead of drupal? What is it
 about? What is the difference between the two? For those of you who have
 used both why do you prefer the platform you have chosen to go with?

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Re: drupal or plone

Mike,

I suggest you get a copy of Professional Plone 4 Development by Martin
Aspeli (pakt) and join the plone users group. and follow that book. It
takes you from setting up your development environment to creating add on
products for Plone. It is very good, but you need a rudimentary knowledge
of python.

Installing Plone is easyrunning it is easy...simple changes are
easydeveloping new functionality takes some time to learn how to do it
correctly. Feel free to contact me off list for help. However, there are
many more knowledgeable plonistas on the Plone users' group email list. ;)

Mark

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I'm checking out plone and I'm trying to download it right now. I need to
download some addiitonal stuff too. They want me to d/l imagemagick but it
seems to be a windows thing. Is there a linux equivalent that I'm supposed
to d/l?

On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 3:48 PM, keith smith klsmith2...@yahoo.comwrote:

I apologize for branching, however, am I reading that you find PHP
developers more difficult to work with than python developers?

That would be an interesting observation.

Keith Smith

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Subject: Re: drupal or plone
To: Main PLUG discussion list plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us
Date: Tuesday, January 24, 2012, 2:57 PM

The other aspect of things is there seems to be more python friendly
folks out there and not as many php friendly, but that is only from my
personal experience and may not be accurate outside of my own life.

On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 10:27 AM, Michael Havens
bmi...@gmail.comhttp://mc/compose?to=bmi...@gmail.com
wrote:
I was reading about Drupal on wikipedia. This is a small portion of
what it
has to say:

When compared to three other well-known open source CMS platforms
covered by the
MITRE CVE database, Drupal ranked second - after Plone but before
WordPress and Joomla.[76]

So let's talk about Plone. Why was it ranked ahead of drupal? What is it
about? What is the difference between the two? For those of you who have
used both why do you prefer the platform you have chosen to go with?

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Re: drupal or plone

Forgot to add - use the unified installer for plone/zope/python from
plone.org. Don't use plone from your Linux distribution - it will be too
far out of date and many distros put the plone stuff in odd places, so it
makes it hard to use the documentation.

Mark

On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 11:54 PM, Mark Phillips
m...@phillipsmarketing.bizwrote:

Mike,

Mark

On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 11:10 PM, Michael Havens bmi...@gmail.com wrote:

On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 3:48 PM, keith smith klsmith2...@yahoo.comwrote:

I apologize for branching, however, am I reading that you find PHP
developers more difficult to work with than python developers?

That would be an interesting observation.

Keith Smith

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Subject: Re: drupal or plone
To: Main PLUG discussion list plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us
Date: Tuesday, January 24, 2012, 2:57 PM

On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 10:27 AM, Michael Havens
bmi...@gmail.comhttp://mc/compose?to=bmi...@gmail.com
wrote:
I was reading about Drupal on wikipedia. This is a small portion of
what it
has to say:

When compared to three other well-known open source CMS platforms
covered by the
MITRE CVE database, Drupal ranked second - after Plone but before
WordPress and Joomla.[76]

So let's talk about Plone. Why was it ranked ahead of drupal? What is
it
about? What is the difference between the two? For those of you who
have
used both why do you prefer the platform you have chosen to go with?

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Re: drupal or plone

I am not sure if what you are doing is related to installing plone. The
easiest way to install Plone is to download the unified installer and run
that
http://launchpad.net/plone/4.1/4.1.3/+download/Plone-4.1.3-UnifiedInstaller.tgzor
http://plone.org/products/plone/releases/4.1.3.

Mark

On Wed, Jan 25, 2012 at 12:07 AM, Michael Havens bmi...@gmail.com wrote:

 I don't know where  I got the idea I needed imagemajic but any ways I'm
 trying to compile poppler. Well, I type in ./configure and  I get an error
 that there is no package 'fontconfig'.   Where do I get this package and do
 I put it in the poppler folder where the config file is. Or maybe I should
 put it in /usr  so it will be available to everyon. What do you think?


 On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 11:10 PM, Michael Havens bmi...@gmail.com wrote:

 I'm checking out plone and I'm trying to download it right now. I need to
 download some addiitonal stuff too. They want me to d/l imagemagick but it
 seems to be a windows thing. Is there a linux equivalent that I'm supposed
 to d/l?


 On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 3:48 PM, keith smith klsmith2...@yahoo.comwrote:


 I apologize for branching, however, am I reading that you find PHP
 developers more difficult to work with than python developers?

 he ide i NEEDEThat would be an interesting observation.

 
 Keith Smith

 --- On *Tue, 1/24/12, Stephen cryptwo...@gmail.com* wrote:


 From: Stephen cryptwo...@gmail.com
 Subject: Re: drupal or plone
 To: Main PLUG discussion list plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us
 Date: Tuesday, January 24, 2012, 2:57 PM


 The other aspect of things is there seems to be more python friendly
 folks out there and not as many php friendly, but that is only from my
 personal experience and may not be accurate outside of my own life.

 On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 10:27 AM, Michael Havens 
 bmi...@gmail.comhttp://mc/compose?to=bmi...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  I was reading about Drupal on wikipedia. This is a small portion of
 what it
  has to say:
 
   When compared to three other well-known open source CMS platforms
  covered by the
   MITRE CVE database, Drupal ranked second - after Plone but before
  WordPress and Joomla.[76]
 
  So let's talk about Plone. Why was it ranked ahead of drupal? What is
 it
  about? What is the difference between the two? For those of you who
 have
  used both why do you prefer the platform you have chosen to go with?
 
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Re: OT HDW question update

2012-01-12 Thread Mark Jarvis


  
  


  If I understand what I've been reading about the DVI interface,
  without the 4 pins around the horizontal bar, there's no analog
  output in the plug--see diagram. The DVI-D ones--which is what I
  have on one machine--do not have the analog signal.

Quoting: "As well as digital signals, the DVI
connector includes pins providing the same analog signals found
on a VGA connector, allowing an analog VGA monitor to be
connected with a passive plug adapter (or with a converter cable
with VGA at one end, and DVI-A or DVI-I at the other). This
feature was included in order to make DVI universal, as it
allows either type of monitor (analog or digital) to be operated
from the same connector.


The DVI connector on a device is therefore
given one of three names, depending on which signals it
implements:



  DVI-D (digital only, both
  single-link and dual-link)
  DVI-A (analog only)
  DVI-I (integrated  digital and
  analog)"

One machine has both
  DVI-I  VGA ports, the other only the DVI-D,. I'll try
  to find a spare video card and see if that will help.
    
Mark

Stephen wrote:

  I have dual link DVI output on my graphics card, and it worked fine
with the simple adapter.

I can look and see if i have a spare. 10 bux for that is ridiculous.

On Thu, Jan 12, 2012 at 12:04 AM, Mark Jarvis m.jar...@cox.net wrote:

  

I have good news and bad news. The bad news is that I went by Fry's and they
wanted $10 and up for an adapter. The good news is I didn't buy one. I say
good news because I'm now learning a little about DVI  I don't think an
adapter is going to fix the problem. The DVI ports on my new computer are
DVI-D (Dual Link). Since apparently a DVI-D port is digital only, I suspect
that attempting to run that signal through a VGA interface either would
require a non-simple ( non-cheap) adapter or be impossible.

It looks like the KVM box is going back (more bad news)  I buy a more
expensive KVM with DVI ports.

Any advice  comments by someone familiar with video and the DVI interface
will be gratefully accepted.

Thanks,

Mark Jarvis



Stephen wrote:

The simple answer is yes, Most graphics cards come with them now, but
you can probably stop by frys and get one pretty cheap. cant image it
would be more than 5 bux.

On Tue, Jan 10, 2012 at 11:16 PM, Mark Jarvis m.jar...@cox.net wrote:

I just ordered  received a TRENDnet 2-port USB KVM switch kit. I thought I
was OK on the video because its rated resolution is greater than what I'm
running.

What's the problem? It appears to only have VGA video ports and one of the
computers I be hooking up to it has only DVI. Is there such a thing as a
DVI-to-VGA adapter? Will I have problems using this unit with my computers?

I'm sure that the solution is simple,  I probably should know the answer,
but video is one area I have no expertise in.

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Re: (OT HDW question update) update

2012-01-12 Thread Mark Jarvis


  
  

I dug out my spare video card and it has a
  DVI-I port so I think that I'll try that. 

I still don't know enough about this whole area,
  so if anyone has anything to share, it would be appreciated.
  
  Mark Jarvis


Mark Jarvis wrote:

  
  
  
If I understand what I've been reading about the DVI interface,
without the 4 pins around the horizontal bar, there's no analog
output in the plug--see diagram. The DVI-D ones--which is what I
have on one machine--do not have the analog signal.
  
  Quoting: "As well as digital signals, the
  DVI connector includes pins providing the same analog signals
  found on a VGA connector, allowing an analog VGA monitor to be
  connected with a passive plug adapter (or with a converter
  cable with VGA at one end, and DVI-A or DVI-I at the other).
  This feature was included in order to make DVI universal, as
  it allows either type of monitor (analog or digital) to be
  operated from the same connector.
   
  The DVI connector on a device is therefore
  given one of three names, depending on which signals it
  implements:
   
  
DVI-D (digital only, both
single-link and dual-link)
DVI-A (analog only)
DVI-I (integrated  digital and
analog)"
  
  One machine has both
DVI-I  VGA ports, the other only the DVI-D,. I'll
try to find a spare video card and see if that will help.
      
  Mark
  
  Stephen wrote:
  
I have dual link DVI output on my graphics card, and it worked fine
with the simple adapter.

I can look and see if i have a spare. 10 bux for that is ridiculous.

On Thu, Jan 12, 2012 at 12:04 AM, Mark Jarvis m.jar...@cox.net wrote:


  I have good news and bad news. The bad news is that I went by Fry's and they
wanted $10 and up for an adapter. The good news is I didn't buy one. I say
good news because I'm now learning a little about DVI  I don't think an
adapter is going to fix the problem. The DVI ports on my new computer are
DVI-D (Dual Link). Since apparently a DVI-D port is digital only, I suspect
that attempting to run that signal through a VGA interface either would
require a non-simple ( non-cheap) adapter or be impossible.

It looks like the KVM box is going back (more bad news)  I buy a more
expensive KVM with DVI ports.

Any advice  comments by someone familiar with video and the DVI interface
will be gratefully accepted.

Thanks,

Mark Jarvis



Stephen wrote:

The simple answer is yes, Most graphics cards come with them now, but
you can probably stop by frys and get one pretty cheap. cant image it
would be more than 5 bux.

On Tue, Jan 10, 2012 at 11:16 PM, Mark Jarvis m.jar...@cox.net wrote:

I just ordered  received a TRENDnet 2-port USB KVM switch kit. I thought I
was OK on the video because its rated resolution is greater than what I'm
running.

What's the problem? It appears to only have VGA video ports and one of the
computers I be hooking up to it has only DVI. Is there such a thing as a
DVI-to-VGA adapter? Will I have problems using this unit with my computers?

I'm sure that the solution is simple,  I probably should know the answer,
but video is one area I have no expertise in.

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Re: OT HDW question

2012-01-11 Thread Mark Jarvis



My monitor has a 15 pin VGA port, as does the old computer so it looks 
like an adapter to connect my DVI cable from the new box to the KVM 
switch will make it work. Of course that brings up the question of what 
am I losing by not using DVI?


A quick Google check (which I should have done earlier) showed lots of 
adapters for just a few bucks, so I should be able to pick one up 
locally--which leads back to the what do I lose question.


Comments?

Thanks,

Mark Jarvis


Mark Jarvis wrote:


I just ordered  received a TRENDnet 2-port USB KVM switch kit. I 
thought I was OK on the video because its rated resolution is greater 
than what I'm running.


What's the problem? It appears to only have VGA video ports and one of 
the computers I be hooking up to it has only DVI. Is there such a 
thing as a DVI-to-VGA adapter? Will I have problems using this unit 
with my computers?


I'm sure that the solution is simple,  I probably should know the 
answer, but video is one area I have no expertise in.


Thanks in advance for any advice.


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Re: OT HDW question update

2012-01-11 Thread Mark Jarvis



I have good news and bad news. The bad news is that I went by Fry's and 
they wanted $10 and up for an adapter. The good news is I didn't buy 
one. I say good news because I'm now learning a little about DVI  I 
don't think an adapter is going to fix the problem. The DVI ports on my 
new computer are DVI-D (Dual Link). Since apparently a DVI-D port is 
digital only, I suspect that attempting to run that signal through a VGA 
interface either would require a non-simple ( non-cheap) adapter or be 
impossible.


It looks like the KVM box is going back (more bad news)  I buy a more 
expensive KVM with DVI ports.


Any advice  comments by someone familiar with video and the DVI 
interface will be gratefully accepted.


Thanks,

Mark Jarvis



Stephen wrote:

The simple answer is yes, Most graphics cards come with them now, but
you can probably stop by frys and get one pretty cheap. cant image it
would be more than 5 bux.

On Tue, Jan 10, 2012 at 11:16 PM, Mark Jarvism.jar...@cox.net  wrote:

I just ordered  received a TRENDnet 2-port USB KVM switch kit. I thought I
was OK on the video because its rated resolution is greater than what I'm
running.

What's the problem? It appears to only have VGA video ports and one of the
computers I be hooking up to it has only DVI. Is there such a thing as a
DVI-to-VGA adapter? Will I have problems using this unit with my computers?

I'm sure that the solution is simple,  I probably should know the answer,
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OT HDW question

2012-01-10 Thread Mark Jarvis



I just ordered  received a TRENDnet 2-port USB KVM switch kit. I 
thought I was OK on the video because its rated resolution is greater 
than what I'm running.


What's the problem? It appears to only have VGA video ports and one of 
the computers I be hooking up to it has only DVI. Is there such a thing 
as a DVI-to-VGA adapter? Will I have problems using this unit with my 
computers?


I'm sure that the solution is simple,  I probably should know the 
answer, but video is one area I have no expertise in.


Thanks in advance for any advice.
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OT - Windows XP Installation CD

I have an old Dell server running Windows XP Pro, which has gotten so slow
that my best plan is to wipe it and re-install. I have the license tag on
the box but no CDs to install. The machine use to be a gaming machine for
my kids when they were younger, and they moved on to only needing iTunes.

Does anyone have a Windows XP Pro CD I can borrow? Can I download it from
somewhere on the net?

I assume this is legal, as I have the license, just not the media.

Thanks,

Mark
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Re: OT - Windows XP Installation CD

On Sun, Jan 1, 2012 at 12:12 PM, Lisa Kachold lisakach...@obnosis.comwrote:

 There are tons of sights with links to XP source:

 http://www.metacafe.com/watch/491686/installing_windows_xp_pro_including_free_legal_key/


The site appears to be deadI just get a blank page



 Be sure to get your key off your system: 
 http://pcsupport.about.com/od/tipstricks/ht/findxpkey.htm


Hard to miss the bright shiny tag on the top of the box! ;)



 http://pcsupport.about.com/od/windowsxp/f/download-windows-xp.htm


I found that site early on in my search. All it says is there are tons of
sites with Windows downloads..., but no links, and then it says to buy a
new copy from MS.


 All of the referenced download links are, of course, illegal therefore
 possibly warez sites with spam, trojans, virus, etc.

 Try to find someone with a DVD?


That was the point of my email.


 [I have one,  but I am not going to supply the use of it to anyone on a
 Linux list and I can't get it to you with my current schedule..]

 You should not need to use Windows for anything!


One has to use Windows or MacOS for iTunes and Windows for many Windows
games. Wine does not always work, and it does not work for iTunes.

Happy New Year!

Mark



 On Sun, Jan 1, 2012 at 11:57 AM, Mark Phillips m...@phillipsmarketing.biz
  wrote:

 I have an old Dell server running Windows XP Pro, which has gotten so
 slow that my best plan is to wipe it and re-install. I have the license tag
 on the box but no CDs to install. The machine use to be a gaming machine
 for my kids when they were younger, and they moved on to only needing
 iTunes.

 Does anyone have a Windows XP Pro CD I can borrow? Can I download it from
 somewhere on the net?

 I assume this is legal, as I have the license, just not the media.

 Thanks,

 Mark

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Re: OT - Windows XP Installation CD

On Sun, Jan 1, 2012 at 12:39 PM, Matt Graham danceswithcr...@usa.netwrote:

 From: Lisa Kachold lisakach...@obnosis.com
  Try to find someone with a DVD?

 This'd probably be the best bet if possible.

  You should not need to use Windows for anything!

 Real-world considerations mean that people sometimes HAVE to use Windows.
  The
 VPN at my work doesn't allow Linux users to connect to it.  They *could*
 allow
 Linux users to connect, but the people in charge of the VPN say that's a
 security risk, and they won't consider it.  If I need/want to work
 remotely,
 my only option is a Windows machine.  (Getting smarter people in charge of
 the VPN is not an option, sadly.)

 Also, what about games?  You may not play games, but lots of games only
 run on
 Windows.

 Mark Philips wrote:
  One has to use Windows or MacOS for iTunes

 gtkpod should work for managing the music/video/whatever on almost all
 iPods,
 and it's cross-platform.  Buying stuff via the Apple store may require
 iTunes
 itself--I don't know since I've never wanted to buy stuff from there.


Sadly, teenage daughters want to buy LOTS of music on iTunes, so it is a
requirement for living in our modern age..and I am out numbered 4 to 1!
Managing music is secondary.access to new music is the primary need for
iTunes. However, YouTube has helped ameliorate the cost of this addiction
somewhat.

Mark
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Re: OT - Windows XP Installation CD