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Have the the HTC Rezound; my first smart phone. Family has iPhone 4's. 4G/LTE is amazingly fast in areas with good 4G coverage - a serious advantage of Android has over iPhone. I switched to VZN from TMO several years ago due to coverage; am happy enough with them. Currently though, TMO also gets to use ATT towers for the next few years as part of the compensation for the failed ATT buyout of TMO. So their coverage should be great. See a TMO store for more info. Plus an ATT or TMO phone should be somewhat useable overseas, if you travel abroad enough to care. On Sun, Jun 24, 2012 at 12:13 PM, James Dugger james.dug...@gmail.comwrote: With the exception of SF and northern Idaho (never been) your list and comments would match exactly to my experience with Verizon. On Sun, Jun 24, 2012 at 11:16 AM, Mark Phillips m...@phillipsmarketing.biz wrote: You can check coverage at http://www.t-mobile.com/coverage/pcc.aspx(drill down to the street level). My personal experience Seattle - great Phoenix, Scottsdale, Mesa, Chandler, etc. - great Payson - 4G - I loose connectivity in the mountains on the way to Payson Pinetop/Lakeside/Show Low - 2G/4G roaming - depends on location Greater LA - great SF and Bay Area - great Northern Idaho camping near the Canadian border - no coverage...ATT has some coverage in this area! Driving to Tucson - no loss of signal as far as I remember. Tucson has great coverage YMMV Mark On Sun, Jun 24, 2012 at 10:49 AM, keith smith klsmith2...@yahoo.comwrote: What about service - like out in rural areas. Between here and Tucson. I like T-Mobile's plan and price points, however I am concerned about coverage. Please share your thoughts. Thanks! Keith Smith --- On *Sun, 6/24/12, Mark Phillips m...@phillipsmarketing.biz* wrote: From: Mark Phillips m...@phillipsmarketing.biz Subject: Re: OT Verizon Smart Phones To: Main PLUG discussion list plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us Date: Sunday, June 24, 2012, 9:22 AM As a point of comparison, t-mobile offers an unlimited voice, text, and data plan for 2 phones for $140/month. Unlimited data means 2 gb at 4g speeds, and if you exceed that, they just throttle you back to 2g at no additional charge. They have lots of good android smart phones available (no iphones). I have had 4 phones with then for many many years, and I keep renewing every 2 years. Don't go to a franchise store unless you know it is a good one. Go to a corporate store for best service. Mark On Jun 23, 2012 8:42 PM, Lyle Tuttle l.tut...@cox.nethttp://mc/compose?to=l.tut...@cox.net wrote: We have two Verizon HTC Thunderbolts - new in Feb 2011. $174/month, unlimited everything.voice, text, data...' Have never had it freeze; rebooted on its own once but I think that was an update. Worst problem is battery life.very short, even with larger battery. One day will go all day, next day need to charge twice in one day - low usage.go figure. Did you know verizon has a box that will serve as your phone? $20/mo unlimited calls in/out..it received via cell signal and you plug your phone into it.and US Cellular has a small deck of cards, only half as thick Samsung hot spot$25 for up to 2 gig of data/month I learned the above after bad storm left sis-in-law without phone or internet for 4 days..guess what she has now!!? At 02:12 PM 6/22/2012, James Dugger wrote: I have been with Verizion ever since our other carrirer was buoght by them in the mid nineties. I have had a Driod and currently have a Droid X. I can't really compare the difference between carriers in dropped calls but we get are share of dropped calls as well. My wife and son have the iphone 4s and love it. My wife had an older Droid and it used to drop calls more than here iphone. Having used both (my wife's iphone and my Droid X) my comparison would be as follows: Screen Freeze Droid - this happens quite often on both the older and newer Droids (though not as much on the X) iphone - rarely freezes. Keyboard key selection Droid - They both struggle (especially in the portrait keyboard) to pick the correct letter/number. iphone - Even with fat fingers it is uncanny to me how the portrait keyboard can still seem to pick the right letter/number Text completion Droid - Okay iphone - Great slightly faster Animatromics (screen responsiveness) Droid - slight hesitancy at times iphone - smooth and quick I have no experience with HTC however my brother has the Samsung Nexus II through Version and says that it runs circles around his old Droid, and is much closer to the iphone with respect to hardware responsiveness and features. Since the versions of OS Android is somewhat splintered across different devices, there are a couple of other points to consider if an android phone is your preferred choice: Google owns Android and Motorola ( Droid
Re: OT Verizon Smart Phones
As a point of comparison, t-mobile offers an unlimited voice, text, and data plan for 2 phones for $140/month. Unlimited data means 2 gb at 4g speeds, and if you exceed that, they just throttle you back to 2g at no additional charge. They have lots of good android smart phones available (no iphones). I have had 4 phones with then for many many years, and I keep renewing every 2 years. Don't go to a franchise store unless you know it is a good one. Go to a corporate store for best service. Mark On Jun 23, 2012 8:42 PM, Lyle Tuttle l.tut...@cox.net wrote: We have two Verizon HTC Thunderbolts - new in Feb 2011. $174/month, unlimited everything.voice, text, data...' Have never had it freeze; rebooted on its own once but I think that was an update. Worst problem is battery life.very short, even with larger battery. One day will go all day, next day need to charge twice in one day - low usage.go figure. Did you know verizon has a box that will serve as your phone? $20/mo unlimited calls in/out..it received via cell signal and you plug your phone into it.and US Cellular has a small deck of cards, only half as thick Samsung hot spot$25 for up to 2 gig of data/month I learned the above after bad storm left sis-in-law without phone or internet for 4 days..guess what she has now!!? At 02:12 PM 6/22/2012, James Dugger wrote: I have been with Verizion ever since our other carrirer was buoght by them in the mid nineties. I have had a Driod and currently have a Droid X. I can't really compare the difference between carriers in dropped calls but we get are share of dropped calls as well. My wife and son have the iphone 4s and love it. My wife had an older Droid and it used to drop calls more than here iphone. Having used both (my wife's iphone and my Droid X) my comparison would be as follows: Screen Freeze Droid - this happens quite often on both the older and newer Droids (though not as much on the X) iphone - rarely freezes. Keyboard key selection Droid - They both struggle (especially in the portrait keyboard) to pick the correct letter/number. iphone - Even with fat fingers it is uncanny to me how the portrait keyboard can still seem to pick the right letter/number Text completion Droid - Okay iphone - Great slightly faster Animatromics (screen responsiveness) Droid - slight hesitancy at times iphone - smooth and quick I have no experience with HTC however my brother has the Samsung Nexus II through Version and says that it runs circles around his old Droid, and is much closer to the iphone with respect to hardware responsiveness and features. Since the versions of OS Android is somewhat splintered across different devices, there are a couple of other points to consider if an android phone is your preferred choice: Google owns Android and Motorola ( Droid ), but Nexus is a Google sponsored partnership program for application and hardware development for the official release version of Android by Google. Currently Samsung is the Nexus partner. This may have changed and I may be wrong, but it is my understanding that anything Android with the Nexus name is part of this partnership with Google. On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 10:01 AM, Stephen cryptwo...@gmail.com wrote: Android brutally fc's inactive apparently to free space before that goes. On Jun 22, 2012 9:59 AM, Eric Cope eric.c...@gmail.com wrote: Thats interesting to hear about not rebooting? Maybe the tide is changing. Someone I carpool with is also constantly having to close apps because the phone is out of memory. Does anyone else experience this? I think the iPhone forces stale apps out of memory automatically (I never get an out of memory notice). Can anyone comment on that? Eric On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 9:55 AM, Stephen cryptwo...@gmail.com wrote: I forgot. On a rooted phone there is an app that will backup your root so you can switch root on and off easily so you can do some root only tasks and then unroot for day to day. Its called voodoo ota rootkeeper On Jun 22, 2012 8:46 AM, keith smith klsmith2...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi, This is very OT. I have been with verizon for 8 years. Voice only. It has been 4 years since I upgraded our phones. It is just my wife and I. We are thinking of going with smart phones. A friend suggested HTC phones because of the better quality of speaker and mic. Voice quality is very important to me. As it stands we can get unlimited voice for $120/mo, 1000 texts for $10/mo and 2G of data for each phone for $20/ea/mo. Total is about $170/mo + tax and fees. I like verizon because they have always provided top of the line service. I've briefly looked at Straigt-Talk, T-Mobile, and Sprint. My fear with these providers is quality of the call, availability, and dropped calls. Any suggestions on which phone to get? From prior conversations on this list it seems a Droid
Re: OT Verizon Smart Phones
What about service - like out in rural areas. Between here and Tucson. I like T-Mobile's plan and price points, however I am concerned about coverage. Please share your thoughts. Thanks! Keith Smith --- On Sun, 6/24/12, Mark Phillips m...@phillipsmarketing.biz wrote: From: Mark Phillips m...@phillipsmarketing.biz Subject: Re: OT Verizon Smart Phones To: Main PLUG discussion list plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us Date: Sunday, June 24, 2012, 9:22 AM As a point of comparison, t-mobile offers an unlimited voice, text, and data plan for 2 phones for $140/month. Unlimited data means 2 gb at 4g speeds, and if you exceed that, they just throttle you back to 2g at no additional charge. They have lots of good android smart phones available (no iphones). I have had 4 phones with then for many many years, and I keep renewing every 2 years. Don't go to a franchise store unless you know it is a good one. Go to a corporate store for best service. Mark On Jun 23, 2012 8:42 PM, Lyle Tuttle l.tut...@cox.net wrote: We have two Verizon HTC Thunderbolts - new in Feb 2011. $174/month, unlimited everything.voice, text, data...' Have never had it freeze; rebooted on its own once but I think that was an update. Worst problem is battery life.very short, even with larger battery. One day will go all day, next day need to charge twice in one day - low usage.go figure. Did you know verizon has a box that will serve as your phone? $20/mo unlimited calls in/out..it received via cell signal and you plug your phone into it.and US Cellular has a small deck of cards, only half as thick Samsung hot spot$25 for up to 2 gig of data/month I learned the above after bad storm left sis-in-law without phone or internet for 4 days..guess what she has now!!? At 02:12 PM 6/22/2012, James Dugger wrote: I have been with Verizion ever since our other carrirer was buoght by them in the mid nineties. I have had a Driod and currently have a Droid X. I can't really compare the difference between carriers in dropped calls but we get are share of dropped calls as well. My wife and son have the iphone 4s and love it. My wife had an older Droid and it used to drop calls more than here iphone. Having used both (my wife's iphone and my Droid X) my comparison would be as follows: Screen Freeze Droid - this happens quite often on both the older and newer Droids (though not as much on the X) iphone - rarely freezes. Keyboard key selection Droid - They both struggle (especially in the portrait keyboard) to pick the correct letter/number. iphone - Even with fat fingers it is uncanny to me how the portrait keyboard can still seem to pick the right letter/number Text completion Droid - Okay iphone - Great slightly faster Animatromics (screen responsiveness) Droid - slight hesitancy at times iphone - smooth and quick I have no experience with HTC however my brother has the Samsung Nexus II through Version and says that it runs circles around his old Droid, and is much closer to the iphone with respect to hardware responsiveness and features. Since the versions of OS Android is somewhat splintered across different devices, there are a couple of other points to consider if an android phone is your preferred choice: Google owns Android and Motorola ( Droid ), but Nexus is a Google sponsored partnership program for application and hardware development for the official release version of Android by Google. Currently Samsung is the Nexus partner. This may have changed and I may be wrong, but it is my understanding that anything Android with the Nexus name is part of this partnership with Google. On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 10:01 AM, Stephen cryptwo...@gmail.com wrote: Android brutally fc's inactive apparently to free space before that goes. On Jun 22, 2012 9:59 AM, Eric Cope eric.c...@gmail.com wrote: Thats interesting to hear about not rebooting? Maybe the tide is changing. Someone I carpool with is also constantly having to close apps because the phone is out of memory. Does anyone else experience this? I think the iPhone forces stale apps out of memory automatically (I never get an out of memory notice). Can anyone comment on that? Eric On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 9:55 AM, Stephen cryptwo...@gmail.com wrote: I forgot. On a rooted phone there is an app that will backup your root so you can switch root on and off easily so you can do some root only tasks and then unroot for day to day. Its called voodoo ota rootkeeper On Jun 22, 2012 8:46 AM, keith smith klsmith2...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi, This is very OT. I have been with verizon for 8 years. Voice only. It has been 4 years since I upgraded our phones. It is just my wife and I. We are thinking of going with smart phones. A friend suggested HTC phones because of the better quality of speaker and mic. Voice quality is very important
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Well vz on my trip to mission lake never lost data/voice On Jun 24, 2012 10:50 AM, keith smith klsmith2...@yahoo.com wrote: What about service - like out in rural areas. Between here and Tucson. I like T-Mobile's plan and price points, however I am concerned about coverage. Please share your thoughts. Thanks! Keith Smith --- On *Sun, 6/24/12, Mark Phillips m...@phillipsmarketing.biz* wrote: From: Mark Phillips m...@phillipsmarketing.biz Subject: Re: OT Verizon Smart Phones To: Main PLUG discussion list plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us Date: Sunday, June 24, 2012, 9:22 AM As a point of comparison, t-mobile offers an unlimited voice, text, and data plan for 2 phones for $140/month. Unlimited data means 2 gb at 4g speeds, and if you exceed that, they just throttle you back to 2g at no additional charge. They have lots of good android smart phones available (no iphones). I have had 4 phones with then for many many years, and I keep renewing every 2 years. Don't go to a franchise store unless you know it is a good one. Go to a corporate store for best service. Mark On Jun 23, 2012 8:42 PM, Lyle Tuttle l.tut...@cox.nethttp://mc/compose?to=l.tut...@cox.net wrote: We have two Verizon HTC Thunderbolts - new in Feb 2011. $174/month, unlimited everything.voice, text, data...' Have never had it freeze; rebooted on its own once but I think that was an update. Worst problem is battery life.very short, even with larger battery. One day will go all day, next day need to charge twice in one day - low usage.go figure. Did you know verizon has a box that will serve as your phone? $20/mo unlimited calls in/out..it received via cell signal and you plug your phone into it.and US Cellular has a small deck of cards, only half as thick Samsung hot spot$25 for up to 2 gig of data/month I learned the above after bad storm left sis-in-law without phone or internet for 4 days..guess what she has now!!? At 02:12 PM 6/22/2012, James Dugger wrote: I have been with Verizion ever since our other carrirer was buoght by them in the mid nineties. I have had a Driod and currently have a Droid X. I can't really compare the difference between carriers in dropped calls but we get are share of dropped calls as well. My wife and son have the iphone 4s and love it. My wife had an older Droid and it used to drop calls more than here iphone. Having used both (my wife's iphone and my Droid X) my comparison would be as follows: Screen Freeze Droid - this happens quite often on both the older and newer Droids (though not as much on the X) iphone - rarely freezes. Keyboard key selection Droid - They both struggle (especially in the portrait keyboard) to pick the correct letter/number. iphone - Even with fat fingers it is uncanny to me how the portrait keyboard can still seem to pick the right letter/number Text completion Droid - Okay iphone - Great slightly faster Animatromics (screen responsiveness) Droid - slight hesitancy at times iphone - smooth and quick I have no experience with HTC however my brother has the Samsung Nexus II through Version and says that it runs circles around his old Droid, and is much closer to the iphone with respect to hardware responsiveness and features. Since the versions of OS Android is somewhat splintered across different devices, there are a couple of other points to consider if an android phone is your preferred choice: Google owns Android and Motorola ( Droid ), but Nexus is a Google sponsored partnership program for application and hardware development for the official release version of Android by Google. Currently Samsung is the Nexus partner. This may have changed and I may be wrong, but it is my understanding that anything Android with the Nexus name is part of this partnership with Google. On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 10:01 AM, Stephen cryptwo...@gmail.comhttp://mc/compose?to=cryptwo...@gmail.com wrote: Android brutally fc's inactive apparently to free space before that goes. On Jun 22, 2012 9:59 AM, Eric Cope eric.c...@gmail.comhttp://mc/compose?to=eric.c...@gmail.com wrote: Thats interesting to hear about not rebooting? Maybe the tide is changing. Someone I carpool with is also constantly having to close apps because the phone is out of memory. Does anyone else experience this? I think the iPhone forces stale apps out of memory automatically (I never get an out of memory notice). Can anyone comment on that? Eric On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 9:55 AM, Stephen cryptwo...@gmail.comhttp://mc/compose?to=cryptwo...@gmail.com wrote: I forgot. On a rooted phone there is an app that will backup your root so you can switch root on and off easily so you can do some root only tasks and then unroot for day to day. Its called voodoo ota rootkeeper On Jun 22, 2012 8:46 AM, keith smith klsmith2...@yahoo.comhttp://mc/compose
Re: OT Verizon Smart Phones
You can check coverage at http://www.t-mobile.com/coverage/pcc.aspx (drill down to the street level). My personal experience Seattle - great Phoenix, Scottsdale, Mesa, Chandler, etc. - great Payson - 4G - I loose connectivity in the mountains on the way to Payson Pinetop/Lakeside/Show Low - 2G/4G roaming - depends on location Greater LA - great SF and Bay Area - great Northern Idaho camping near the Canadian border - no coverage...ATT has some coverage in this area! Driving to Tucson - no loss of signal as far as I remember. Tucson has great coverage YMMV Mark On Sun, Jun 24, 2012 at 10:49 AM, keith smith klsmith2...@yahoo.com wrote: What about service - like out in rural areas. Between here and Tucson. I like T-Mobile's plan and price points, however I am concerned about coverage. Please share your thoughts. Thanks! Keith Smith --- On *Sun, 6/24/12, Mark Phillips m...@phillipsmarketing.biz* wrote: From: Mark Phillips m...@phillipsmarketing.biz Subject: Re: OT Verizon Smart Phones To: Main PLUG discussion list plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us Date: Sunday, June 24, 2012, 9:22 AM As a point of comparison, t-mobile offers an unlimited voice, text, and data plan for 2 phones for $140/month. Unlimited data means 2 gb at 4g speeds, and if you exceed that, they just throttle you back to 2g at no additional charge. They have lots of good android smart phones available (no iphones). I have had 4 phones with then for many many years, and I keep renewing every 2 years. Don't go to a franchise store unless you know it is a good one. Go to a corporate store for best service. Mark On Jun 23, 2012 8:42 PM, Lyle Tuttle l.tut...@cox.nethttp://mc/compose?to=l.tut...@cox.net wrote: We have two Verizon HTC Thunderbolts - new in Feb 2011. $174/month, unlimited everything.voice, text, data...' Have never had it freeze; rebooted on its own once but I think that was an update. Worst problem is battery life.very short, even with larger battery. One day will go all day, next day need to charge twice in one day - low usage.go figure. Did you know verizon has a box that will serve as your phone? $20/mo unlimited calls in/out..it received via cell signal and you plug your phone into it.and US Cellular has a small deck of cards, only half as thick Samsung hot spot$25 for up to 2 gig of data/month I learned the above after bad storm left sis-in-law without phone or internet for 4 days..guess what she has now!!? At 02:12 PM 6/22/2012, James Dugger wrote: I have been with Verizion ever since our other carrirer was buoght by them in the mid nineties. I have had a Driod and currently have a Droid X. I can't really compare the difference between carriers in dropped calls but we get are share of dropped calls as well. My wife and son have the iphone 4s and love it. My wife had an older Droid and it used to drop calls more than here iphone. Having used both (my wife's iphone and my Droid X) my comparison would be as follows: Screen Freeze Droid - this happens quite often on both the older and newer Droids (though not as much on the X) iphone - rarely freezes. Keyboard key selection Droid - They both struggle (especially in the portrait keyboard) to pick the correct letter/number. iphone - Even with fat fingers it is uncanny to me how the portrait keyboard can still seem to pick the right letter/number Text completion Droid - Okay iphone - Great slightly faster Animatromics (screen responsiveness) Droid - slight hesitancy at times iphone - smooth and quick I have no experience with HTC however my brother has the Samsung Nexus II through Version and says that it runs circles around his old Droid, and is much closer to the iphone with respect to hardware responsiveness and features. Since the versions of OS Android is somewhat splintered across different devices, there are a couple of other points to consider if an android phone is your preferred choice: Google owns Android and Motorola ( Droid ), but Nexus is a Google sponsored partnership program for application and hardware development for the official release version of Android by Google. Currently Samsung is the Nexus partner. This may have changed and I may be wrong, but it is my understanding that anything Android with the Nexus name is part of this partnership with Google. On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 10:01 AM, Stephen cryptwo...@gmail.comhttp://mc/compose?to=cryptwo...@gmail.com wrote: Android brutally fc's inactive apparently to free space before that goes. On Jun 22, 2012 9:59 AM, Eric Cope eric.c...@gmail.comhttp://mc/compose?to=eric.c...@gmail.com wrote: Thats interesting to hear about not rebooting? Maybe the tide is changing. Someone I carpool with is also constantly having to close apps because the phone is out of memory. Does anyone else experience this? I think the iPhone forces
Re: OT Verizon Smart Phones
With the exception of SF and northern Idaho (never been) your list and comments would match exactly to my experience with Verizon. On Sun, Jun 24, 2012 at 11:16 AM, Mark Phillips m...@phillipsmarketing.bizwrote: You can check coverage at http://www.t-mobile.com/coverage/pcc.aspx(drill down to the street level). My personal experience Seattle - great Phoenix, Scottsdale, Mesa, Chandler, etc. - great Payson - 4G - I loose connectivity in the mountains on the way to Payson Pinetop/Lakeside/Show Low - 2G/4G roaming - depends on location Greater LA - great SF and Bay Area - great Northern Idaho camping near the Canadian border - no coverage...ATT has some coverage in this area! Driving to Tucson - no loss of signal as far as I remember. Tucson has great coverage YMMV Mark On Sun, Jun 24, 2012 at 10:49 AM, keith smith klsmith2...@yahoo.comwrote: What about service - like out in rural areas. Between here and Tucson. I like T-Mobile's plan and price points, however I am concerned about coverage. Please share your thoughts. Thanks! Keith Smith --- On *Sun, 6/24/12, Mark Phillips m...@phillipsmarketing.biz* wrote: From: Mark Phillips m...@phillipsmarketing.biz Subject: Re: OT Verizon Smart Phones To: Main PLUG discussion list plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us Date: Sunday, June 24, 2012, 9:22 AM As a point of comparison, t-mobile offers an unlimited voice, text, and data plan for 2 phones for $140/month. Unlimited data means 2 gb at 4g speeds, and if you exceed that, they just throttle you back to 2g at no additional charge. They have lots of good android smart phones available (no iphones). I have had 4 phones with then for many many years, and I keep renewing every 2 years. Don't go to a franchise store unless you know it is a good one. Go to a corporate store for best service. Mark On Jun 23, 2012 8:42 PM, Lyle Tuttle l.tut...@cox.nethttp://mc/compose?to=l.tut...@cox.net wrote: We have two Verizon HTC Thunderbolts - new in Feb 2011. $174/month, unlimited everything.voice, text, data...' Have never had it freeze; rebooted on its own once but I think that was an update. Worst problem is battery life.very short, even with larger battery. One day will go all day, next day need to charge twice in one day - low usage.go figure. Did you know verizon has a box that will serve as your phone? $20/mo unlimited calls in/out..it received via cell signal and you plug your phone into it.and US Cellular has a small deck of cards, only half as thick Samsung hot spot$25 for up to 2 gig of data/month I learned the above after bad storm left sis-in-law without phone or internet for 4 days..guess what she has now!!? At 02:12 PM 6/22/2012, James Dugger wrote: I have been with Verizion ever since our other carrirer was buoght by them in the mid nineties. I have had a Driod and currently have a Droid X. I can't really compare the difference between carriers in dropped calls but we get are share of dropped calls as well. My wife and son have the iphone 4s and love it. My wife had an older Droid and it used to drop calls more than here iphone. Having used both (my wife's iphone and my Droid X) my comparison would be as follows: Screen Freeze Droid - this happens quite often on both the older and newer Droids (though not as much on the X) iphone - rarely freezes. Keyboard key selection Droid - They both struggle (especially in the portrait keyboard) to pick the correct letter/number. iphone - Even with fat fingers it is uncanny to me how the portrait keyboard can still seem to pick the right letter/number Text completion Droid - Okay iphone - Great slightly faster Animatromics (screen responsiveness) Droid - slight hesitancy at times iphone - smooth and quick I have no experience with HTC however my brother has the Samsung Nexus II through Version and says that it runs circles around his old Droid, and is much closer to the iphone with respect to hardware responsiveness and features. Since the versions of OS Android is somewhat splintered across different devices, there are a couple of other points to consider if an android phone is your preferred choice: Google owns Android and Motorola ( Droid ), but Nexus is a Google sponsored partnership program for application and hardware development for the official release version of Android by Google. Currently Samsung is the Nexus partner. This may have changed and I may be wrong, but it is my understanding that anything Android with the Nexus name is part of this partnership with Google. On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 10:01 AM, Stephen cryptwo...@gmail.comhttp://mc/compose?to=cryptwo...@gmail.com wrote: Android brutally fc's inactive apparently to free space before that goes. On Jun 22, 2012 9:59 AM, Eric Cope eric.c...@gmail.comhttp://mc/compose?to=eric.c...@gmail.com wrote: Thats
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$900 for a cellular bill is a lot. Next Thursday Verizon's plans change. There is some good and some bad. My wife and I have no use for texting or data. However we are going to move forward and get both next week. Next week Verizon will charge $40 per phone for UNLIMITED voice and texting. Since we will not need much data we will go with either 1G ($50) or 2G ($60) of data per month. Realistically the only reason I want data is for viewing websites to see how they look on a cellular phone. After I start using it I might enjoy the GPS feature and the ability to use my phone like my computer while away from home. I rarely leave home though. I home office so if I use the phone for data I understand it will be using wifi and not going against my cellular allotment. Silly though, since I am sitting at my computer and can use it for data.. Data will go the way voice has gone. In 1992 I bought a brick phone. I was able to get in on my employer's plan at 25 cents a minute peak and 10 or 15 cents a minute off peak. The phone was over $300. About a year and a half later I moved to a flip phone. It cost close to $300 also. As I recall I had 4 batteries because the battery life was about 4 hours. We have come a long way. We have turned the corner to UNLIMITED voice. Data will go the way voice has gone -- Hopefully it will not take 20 plus years. I looked at straight talk. Very affordable. I think they limit you to 30MB a month for data. Might use that by visiting one unoptimized webpage. Keith Smith --- On Fri, 6/22/12, Michael Butash mich...@butash.net wrote: From: Michael Butash mich...@butash.net Subject: Re: OT Verizon Smart Phones To: plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us Date: Friday, June 22, 2012, 10:37 PM I have a galaxy nexus now, and I'm rather torn with it. It's the second samsung android that has given me nothing but fits, and I'm thoroughly convinced samsung cannot make hardware to save their life. I suffer from various issues from bluetooth/wifi instability, audio routing issues, simple reboots, you name it. But the display is friggin' beautiful. I snubbed a razr maxx because of the display, and cursed motorola for not having a 720p phone to compete at the time, as I'd take a moto phone any day. I've had a bionic and droidx, and both were good until either getting crashed on concrete or taking a swim inadvertently. Definitely noticed android usability got well improved with dual core going from dx to bionic, really looking forward to quad's. Just need to fix the battery life, as my gnex kills me with ~5hr use on charge. Service wise - I'm shopping right now after getting a +$900 phone bill this month from them. I've considered for a while, as for 3 phones, 2 with data, one 4g hotspot, I pay almost 250/mo, after a 21% employee discount. Slapping me upside the face for voice overage charges, even after I upgraded to unlimited minutes this month to avoid it has really been a bit too much. After years of that, it is starting to hurt just for the absurd cost alone. This is twice vzw has got me to leave, though first time I came back after sprint proved absolutely horrid both in wireless and customer service. A buddy went to straight-talk from att, which straight-talk uses att, and actually gets better quality service. I've noticed just from talking to him and not getting disconnected 3 times on every call. 460/mo I think for voice service is pretty damn reasonable, as I more or less consider voice legacy technology. I'm not keen on giving up on vzw's 4g service, especially my unlimited data @30/mo, but I know it's only a matter of time before they just screw everyone with it anyways. I've also read Clear Wireless has very reasonable rates, planning to do some more research on them this weekend. Vzw's new shared data is a joke, and more absurd than any of their current pricing. I was actually looking forward to it, as between my hotspot and phone, I don't really use *that* much data. Hotspot is more of a backup for work and really rarely used unless im traveling, so shared minutes should be a boon, but I'd pay well more than what I get today. I'd like a connected tablet too, but can't justify another 40-60/mo for one on a non-shared plan, and doesn't justify their shared at all. As much as I like vzw's service, it's getting harder to justify their cost, especially when they screw with me with an absurd bill. -mb On 06/22/2012 08:45 AM, keith smith wrote: Hi, This is very OT. I have been with verizon for 8 years. Voice only. It has been 4 years since I upgraded our phones. It is just my wife and I. We are thinking of going with smart phones. A friend suggested HTC phones because of the better quality of speaker and mic. Voice quality is very important to me. As it stands we can get unlimited voice for $120/mo, 1000 texts for $10/mo and 2G of data
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We have two Verizon HTC Thunderbolts - new in Feb 2011. $174/month, unlimited everything.voice, text, data...' Have never had it freeze; rebooted on its own once but I think that was an update. Worst problem is battery life.very short, even with larger battery. One day will go all day, next day need to charge twice in one day - low usage.go figure. Did you know verizon has a box that will serve as your phone? $20/mo unlimited calls in/out..it received via cell signal and you plug your phone into it.and US Cellular has a small deck of cards, only half as thick Samsung hot spot$25 for up to 2 gig of data/month I learned the above after bad storm left sis-in-law without phone or internet for 4 days..guess what she has now!!? At 02:12 PM 6/22/2012, James Dugger wrote: I have been with Verizion ever since our other carrirer was buoght by them in the mid nineties. I have had a Driod and currently have a Droid X. I can't really compare the difference between carriers in dropped calls but we get are share of dropped calls as well. My wife and son have the iphone 4s and love it. My wife had an older Droid and it used to drop calls more than here iphone. Having used both (my wife's iphone and my Droid X) my comparison would be as follows: Screen Freeze Droid - this happens quite often on both the older and newer Droids (though not as much on the X) iphone - rarely freezes. Keyboard key selection Droid - They both struggle (especially in the portrait keyboard) to pick the correct letter/number. iphone - Even with fat fingers it is uncanny to me how the portrait keyboard can still seem to pick the right letter/number Text completion Droid - Okay iphone - Great slightly faster Animatromics (screen responsiveness) Droid - slight hesitancy at times iphone - smooth and quick I have no experience with HTC however my brother has the Samsung Nexus II through Version and says that it runs circles around his old Droid, and is much closer to the iphone with respect to hardware responsiveness and features. Since the versions of OS Android is somewhat splintered across different devices, there are a couple of other points to consider if an android phone is your preferred choice: Google owns Android and Motorola ( Droid ), but Nexus is a Google sponsored partnership program for application and hardware development for the official release version of Android by Google. Currently Samsung is the Nexus partner. This may have changed and I may be wrong, but it is my understanding that anything Android with the Nexus name is part of this partnership with Google. On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 10:01 AM, Stephen cryptwo...@gmail.com wrote: Android brutally fc's inactive apparently to free space before that goes. On Jun 22, 2012 9:59 AM, Eric Cope eric.c...@gmail.com wrote: Thats interesting to hear about not rebooting? Maybe the tide is changing. Someone I carpool with is also constantly having to close apps because the phone is out of memory. Does anyone else experience this? I think the iPhone forces stale apps out of memory automatically (I never get an out of memory notice). Can anyone comment on that? Eric On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 9:55 AM, Stephen cryptwo...@gmail.com wrote: I forgot. On a rooted phone there is an app that will backup your root so you can switch root on and off easily so you can do some root only tasks and then unroot for day to day. Its called voodoo ota rootkeeper On Jun 22, 2012 8:46 AM, keith smith klsmith2...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi, This is very OT. I have been with verizon for 8 years. Voice only. It has been 4 years since I upgraded our phones. It is just my wife and I. We are thinking of going with smart phones. A friend suggested HTC phones because of the better quality of speaker and mic. Voice quality is very important to me. As it stands we can get unlimited voice for $120/mo, 1000 texts for $10/mo and 2G of data for each phone for $20/ea/mo. Total is about $170/mo + tax and fees. I like verizon because they have always provided top of the line service. I've briefly looked at Straigt-Talk, T-Mobile, and Sprint. My fear with these providers is quality of the call, availability, and dropped calls. Any suggestions on which phone to get? From prior conversations on this list it seems a Droid phone is the way to go. I don't think I will ever want to take the time to root my phone, however you never know. What about phone apps and other things I might not be thinking about? I appreciate all the feedback you will provide! Thank you in advance for your help!! Keith Smith --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list -
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Hi, This is very OT. I have been with verizon for 8 years. Voice only. It has been 4 years since I upgraded our phones. It is just my wife and I. We are thinking of going with smart phones. A friend suggested HTC phones because of the better quality of speaker and mic. Voice quality is very important to me. As it stands we can get unlimited voice for $120/mo, 1000 texts for $10/mo and 2G of data for each phone for $20/ea/mo. Total is about $170/mo + tax and fees. I like verizon because they have always provided top of the line service. I've briefly looked at Straigt-Talk, T-Mobile, and Sprint. My fear with these providers is quality of the call, availability, and dropped calls. Any suggestions on which phone to get? From prior conversations on this list it seems a Droid phone is the way to go. I don't think I will ever want to take the time to root my phone, however you never know. What about phone apps and other things I might not be thinking about? I appreciate all the feedback you will provide! Thank you in advance for your help!! Keith Smith--- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
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I've been very happy with my iPhone 4. I rarely reboot my phone (every 2-3 months) and never have to pull the battery, which is not what I hear my android friends say. I'm happy with voice quality as well. Eric On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 8:45 AM, keith smith klsmith2...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi, This is very OT. I have been with verizon for 8 years. Voice only. It has been 4 years since I upgraded our phones. It is just my wife and I. We are thinking of going with smart phones. A friend suggested HTC phones because of the better quality of speaker and mic. Voice quality is very important to me. As it stands we can get unlimited voice for $120/mo, 1000 texts for $10/mo and 2G of data for each phone for $20/ea/mo. Total is about $170/mo + tax and fees. I like verizon because they have always provided top of the line service. I've briefly looked at Straigt-Talk, T-Mobile, and Sprint. My fear with these providers is quality of the call, availability, and dropped calls. Any suggestions on which phone to get? From prior conversations on this list it seems a Droid phone is the way to go. I don't think I will ever want to take the time to root my phone, however you never know. What about phone apps and other things I might not be thinking about? I appreciate all the feedback you will provide! Thank you in advance for your help!! Keith Smith --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
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You may be one of the few people who will benefit from the new plans Verizon will be using starting next Thursday. http://betanews.com/2012/06/12/verizon-share-everything-plan-shares-very-little-savings/ http://www.csmonitor.com/Innovation/Latest-News-Wires/2012/0613/Verizon-s-Share-Everything-plans-Will-a-new-plan-cost-you-more http://www.droid-life.com/2012/06/12/verizon-announces-shared-everything-plans-starting-at-50-for-1gb-of-data-and-unlimited-talktext/ http://techland.time.com/2012/06/13/verizon-share-everything-plans/ On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 8:45 AM, keith smith klsmith2...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi, This is very OT. I have been with verizon for 8 years. Voice only. It has been 4 years since I upgraded our phones. It is just my wife and I. We are thinking of going with smart phones. A friend suggested HTC phones because of the better quality of speaker and mic. Voice quality is very important to me. As it stands we can get unlimited voice for $120/mo, 1000 texts for $10/mo and 2G of data for each phone for $20/ea/mo. Total is about $170/mo + tax and fees. I like verizon because they have always provided top of the line service. I've briefly looked at Straigt-Talk, T-Mobile, and Sprint. My fear with these providers is quality of the call, availability, and dropped calls. Any suggestions on which phone to get? From prior conversations on this list it seems a Droid phone is the way to go. I don't think I will ever want to take the time to root my phone, however you never know. What about phone apps and other things I might not be thinking about? I appreciate all the feedback you will provide! Thank you in advance for your help!! Keith Smith --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- Dazed_75 a.k.a. Larry Please protect my address like I protect yours. When sending messages to multiple recipients, always use the BCC: (Blind carbon copy) and not To: or CC:. Remove all addresses from the message body before sending a Forwarded message. This can prevent spy programs capturing addresses from the recipient list and message body. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
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Actually, I rarely reboot my Android phone, have NEVER pulled my battery and have had better voice quality with both my Androids than with cell phones of the past. I had an HTC Incredible for two years and got a Motorola Droid Razr in February to go with 4G. The speakerphone on the Motorola is better, but I liked the software on the HTC better. My battery generally lasts 30-40 hours but I spend very little time actually talking on it. On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 9:08 AM, Eric Cope eric.c...@gmail.com wrote: I've been very happy with my iPhone 4. I rarely reboot my phone (every 2-3 months) and never have to pull the battery, which is not what I hear my android friends say. I'm happy with voice quality as well. Eric On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 8:45 AM, keith smith klsmith2...@yahoo.comwrote: Hi, This is very OT. I have been with verizon for 8 years. Voice only. It has been 4 years since I upgraded our phones. It is just my wife and I. We are thinking of going with smart phones. A friend suggested HTC phones because of the better quality of speaker and mic. Voice quality is very important to me. As it stands we can get unlimited voice for $120/mo, 1000 texts for $10/mo and 2G of data for each phone for $20/ea/mo. Total is about $170/mo + tax and fees. I like verizon because they have always provided top of the line service. I've briefly looked at Straigt-Talk, T-Mobile, and Sprint. My fear with these providers is quality of the call, availability, and dropped calls. Any suggestions on which phone to get? From prior conversations on this list it seems a Droid phone is the way to go. I don't think I will ever want to take the time to root my phone, however you never know. What about phone apps and other things I might not be thinking about? I appreciate all the feedback you will provide! Thank you in advance for your help!! Keith Smith --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- Dazed_75 a.k.a. Larry Please protect my address like I protect yours. When sending messages to multiple recipients, always use the BCC: (Blind carbon copy) and not To: or CC:. Remove all addresses from the message body before sending a Forwarded message. This can prevent spy programs capturing addresses from the recipient list and message body. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
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I rather like motorola phone for physical hardware and build. Very durable excellent quality. But I hate their stock loadout. However they are popular enough with the tweaking crowd you are not stuck with it. I have owned and tinkered with the DROID x and bionic and love them both. And have heard nothing bad about the razer and razer max. I also suggest looking into the share everything plans also unlimited voice/text and tiered data. So you would be 40 for each smartphone plus data pack shared between your phones. On Jun 22, 2012 8:46 AM, keith smith klsmith2...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi, This is very OT. I have been with verizon for 8 years. Voice only. It has been 4 years since I upgraded our phones. It is just my wife and I. We are thinking of going with smart phones. A friend suggested HTC phones because of the better quality of speaker and mic. Voice quality is very important to me. As it stands we can get unlimited voice for $120/mo, 1000 texts for $10/mo and 2G of data for each phone for $20/ea/mo. Total is about $170/mo + tax and fees. I like verizon because they have always provided top of the line service. I've briefly looked at Straigt-Talk, T-Mobile, and Sprint. My fear with these providers is quality of the call, availability, and dropped calls. Any suggestions on which phone to get? From prior conversations on this list it seems a Droid phone is the way to go. I don't think I will ever want to take the time to root my phone, however you never know. What about phone apps and other things I might not be thinking about? I appreciate all the feedback you will provide! Thank you in advance for your help!! Keith Smith --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
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I frequently reboot the phone. But id say that is almost always my fault. On Jun 22, 2012 9:17 AM, Dazed_75 lthiels...@gmail.com wrote: Actually, I rarely reboot my Android phone, have NEVER pulled my battery and have had better voice quality with both my Androids than with cell phones of the past. I had an HTC Incredible for two years and got a Motorola Droid Razr in February to go with 4G. The speakerphone on the Motorola is better, but I liked the software on the HTC better. My battery generally lasts 30-40 hours but I spend very little time actually talking on it. On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 9:08 AM, Eric Cope eric.c...@gmail.com wrote: I've been very happy with my iPhone 4. I rarely reboot my phone (every 2-3 months) and never have to pull the battery, which is not what I hear my android friends say. I'm happy with voice quality as well. Eric On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 8:45 AM, keith smith klsmith2...@yahoo.comwrote: Hi, This is very OT. I have been with verizon for 8 years. Voice only. It has been 4 years since I upgraded our phones. It is just my wife and I. We are thinking of going with smart phones. A friend suggested HTC phones because of the better quality of speaker and mic. Voice quality is very important to me. As it stands we can get unlimited voice for $120/mo, 1000 texts for $10/mo and 2G of data for each phone for $20/ea/mo. Total is about $170/mo + tax and fees. I like verizon because they have always provided top of the line service. I've briefly looked at Straigt-Talk, T-Mobile, and Sprint. My fear with these providers is quality of the call, availability, and dropped calls. Any suggestions on which phone to get? From prior conversations on this list it seems a Droid phone is the way to go. I don't think I will ever want to take the time to root my phone, however you never know. What about phone apps and other things I might not be thinking about? I appreciate all the feedback you will provide! Thank you in advance for your help!! Keith Smith --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- Dazed_75 a.k.a. Larry Please protect my address like I protect yours. When sending messages to multiple recipients, always use the BCC: (Blind carbon copy) and not To: or CC:. Remove all addresses from the message body before sending a Forwarded message. This can prevent spy programs capturing addresses from the recipient list and message body. --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
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I forgot. On a rooted phone there is an app that will backup your root so you can switch root on and off easily so you can do some root only tasks and then unroot for day to day. Its called voodoo ota rootkeeper On Jun 22, 2012 8:46 AM, keith smith klsmith2...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi, This is very OT. I have been with verizon for 8 years. Voice only. It has been 4 years since I upgraded our phones. It is just my wife and I. We are thinking of going with smart phones. A friend suggested HTC phones because of the better quality of speaker and mic. Voice quality is very important to me. As it stands we can get unlimited voice for $120/mo, 1000 texts for $10/mo and 2G of data for each phone for $20/ea/mo. Total is about $170/mo + tax and fees. I like verizon because they have always provided top of the line service. I've briefly looked at Straigt-Talk, T-Mobile, and Sprint. My fear with these providers is quality of the call, availability, and dropped calls. Any suggestions on which phone to get? From prior conversations on this list it seems a Droid phone is the way to go. I don't think I will ever want to take the time to root my phone, however you never know. What about phone apps and other things I might not be thinking about? I appreciate all the feedback you will provide! Thank you in advance for your help!! Keith Smith --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
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Thats interesting to hear about not rebooting? Maybe the tide is changing. Someone I carpool with is also constantly having to close apps because the phone is out of memory. Does anyone else experience this? I think the iPhone forces stale apps out of memory automatically (I never get an out of memory notice). Can anyone comment on that? Eric On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 9:55 AM, Stephen cryptwo...@gmail.com wrote: I forgot. On a rooted phone there is an app that will backup your root so you can switch root on and off easily so you can do some root only tasks and then unroot for day to day. Its called voodoo ota rootkeeper On Jun 22, 2012 8:46 AM, keith smith klsmith2...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi, This is very OT. I have been with verizon for 8 years. Voice only. It has been 4 years since I upgraded our phones. It is just my wife and I. We are thinking of going with smart phones. A friend suggested HTC phones because of the better quality of speaker and mic. Voice quality is very important to me. As it stands we can get unlimited voice for $120/mo, 1000 texts for $10/mo and 2G of data for each phone for $20/ea/mo. Total is about $170/mo + tax and fees. I like verizon because they have always provided top of the line service. I've briefly looked at Straigt-Talk, T-Mobile, and Sprint. My fear with these providers is quality of the call, availability, and dropped calls. Any suggestions on which phone to get? From prior conversations on this list it seems a Droid phone is the way to go. I don't think I will ever want to take the time to root my phone, however you never know. What about phone apps and other things I might not be thinking about? I appreciate all the feedback you will provide! Thank you in advance for your help!! Keith Smith --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
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Android brutally fc's inactive apparently to free space before that goes. On Jun 22, 2012 9:59 AM, Eric Cope eric.c...@gmail.com wrote: Thats interesting to hear about not rebooting? Maybe the tide is changing. Someone I carpool with is also constantly having to close apps because the phone is out of memory. Does anyone else experience this? I think the iPhone forces stale apps out of memory automatically (I never get an out of memory notice). Can anyone comment on that? Eric On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 9:55 AM, Stephen cryptwo...@gmail.com wrote: I forgot. On a rooted phone there is an app that will backup your root so you can switch root on and off easily so you can do some root only tasks and then unroot for day to day. Its called voodoo ota rootkeeper On Jun 22, 2012 8:46 AM, keith smith klsmith2...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi, This is very OT. I have been with verizon for 8 years. Voice only. It has been 4 years since I upgraded our phones. It is just my wife and I. We are thinking of going with smart phones. A friend suggested HTC phones because of the better quality of speaker and mic. Voice quality is very important to me. As it stands we can get unlimited voice for $120/mo, 1000 texts for $10/mo and 2G of data for each phone for $20/ea/mo. Total is about $170/mo + tax and fees. I like verizon because they have always provided top of the line service. I've briefly looked at Straigt-Talk, T-Mobile, and Sprint. My fear with these providers is quality of the call, availability, and dropped calls. Any suggestions on which phone to get? From prior conversations on this list it seems a Droid phone is the way to go. I don't think I will ever want to take the time to root my phone, however you never know. What about phone apps and other things I might not be thinking about? I appreciate all the feedback you will provide! Thank you in advance for your help!! Keith Smith --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: OT Verizon Smart Phones
I have been with Verizion ever since our other carrirer was buoght by them in the mid nineties. I have had a Driod and currently have a Droid X. I can't really compare the difference between carriers in dropped calls but we get are share of dropped calls as well. My wife and son have the iphone 4s and love it. My wife had an older Droid and it used to drop calls more than here iphone. Having used both (my wife's iphone and my Droid X) my comparison would be as follows: Screen Freeze Droid - this happens quite often on both the older and newer Droids (though not as much on the X) iphone - rarely freezes. Keyboard key selection Droid - They both struggle (especially in the portrait keyboard) to pick the correct letter/number. iphone - Even with fat fingers it is uncanny to me how the portrait keyboard can still seem to pick the right letter/number Text completion Droid - Okay iphone - Great slightly faster Animatromics (screen responsiveness) Droid - slight hesitancy at times iphone - smooth and quick I have no experience with HTC however my brother has the Samsung Nexus II through Version and says that it runs circles around his old Droid, and is much closer to the iphone with respect to hardware responsiveness and features. Since the versions of OS Android is somewhat splintered across different devices, there are a couple of other points to consider if an android phone is your preferred choice: Google owns Android and Motorola ( Droid ), but Nexus is a Google sponsored partnership program for application and hardware development for the official release version of Android by Google. Currently Samsung is the Nexus partner. This may have changed and I may be wrong, but it is my understanding that anything Android with the Nexus name is part of this partnership with Google. On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 10:01 AM, Stephen cryptwo...@gmail.com wrote: Android brutally fc's inactive apparently to free space before that goes. On Jun 22, 2012 9:59 AM, Eric Cope eric.c...@gmail.com wrote: Thats interesting to hear about not rebooting? Maybe the tide is changing. Someone I carpool with is also constantly having to close apps because the phone is out of memory. Does anyone else experience this? I think the iPhone forces stale apps out of memory automatically (I never get an out of memory notice). Can anyone comment on that? Eric On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 9:55 AM, Stephen cryptwo...@gmail.com wrote: I forgot. On a rooted phone there is an app that will backup your root so you can switch root on and off easily so you can do some root only tasks and then unroot for day to day. Its called voodoo ota rootkeeper On Jun 22, 2012 8:46 AM, keith smith klsmith2...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi, This is very OT. I have been with verizon for 8 years. Voice only. It has been 4 years since I upgraded our phones. It is just my wife and I. We are thinking of going with smart phones. A friend suggested HTC phones because of the better quality of speaker and mic. Voice quality is very important to me. As it stands we can get unlimited voice for $120/mo, 1000 texts for $10/mo and 2G of data for each phone for $20/ea/mo. Total is about $170/mo + tax and fees. I like verizon because they have always provided top of the line service. I've briefly looked at Straigt-Talk, T-Mobile, and Sprint. My fear with these providers is quality of the call, availability, and dropped calls. Any suggestions on which phone to get? From prior conversations on this list it seems a Droid phone is the way to go. I don't think I will ever want to take the time to root my phone, however you never know. What about phone apps and other things I might not be thinking about? I appreciate all the feedback you will provide! Thank you in advance for your help!! Keith Smith --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- James --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To
Re: OT Verizon Smart Phones
I have a galaxy nexus now, and I'm rather torn with it. It's the second samsung android that has given me nothing but fits, and I'm thoroughly convinced samsung cannot make hardware to save their life. I suffer from various issues from bluetooth/wifi instability, audio routing issues, simple reboots, you name it. But the display is friggin' beautiful. I snubbed a razr maxx because of the display, and cursed motorola for not having a 720p phone to compete at the time, as I'd take a moto phone any day. I've had a bionic and droidx, and both were good until either getting crashed on concrete or taking a swim inadvertently. Definitely noticed android usability got well improved with dual core going from dx to bionic, really looking forward to quad's. Just need to fix the battery life, as my gnex kills me with ~5hr use on charge. Service wise - I'm shopping right now after getting a +$900 phone bill this month from them. I've considered for a while, as for 3 phones, 2 with data, one 4g hotspot, I pay almost 250/mo, after a 21% employee discount. Slapping me upside the face for voice overage charges, even after I upgraded to unlimited minutes this month to avoid it has really been a bit too much. After years of that, it is starting to hurt just for the absurd cost alone. This is twice vzw has got me to leave, though first time I came back after sprint proved absolutely horrid both in wireless and customer service. A buddy went to straight-talk from att, which straight-talk uses att, and actually gets better quality service. I've noticed just from talking to him and not getting disconnected 3 times on every call. 460/mo I think for voice service is pretty damn reasonable, as I more or less consider voice legacy technology. I'm not keen on giving up on vzw's 4g service, especially my unlimited data @30/mo, but I know it's only a matter of time before they just screw everyone with it anyways. I've also read Clear Wireless has very reasonable rates, planning to do some more research on them this weekend. Vzw's new shared data is a joke, and more absurd than any of their current pricing. I was actually looking forward to it, as between my hotspot and phone, I don't really use *that* much data. Hotspot is more of a backup for work and really rarely used unless im traveling, so shared minutes should be a boon, but I'd pay well more than what I get today. I'd like a connected tablet too, but can't justify another 40-60/mo for one on a non-shared plan, and doesn't justify their shared at all. As much as I like vzw's service, it's getting harder to justify their cost, especially when they screw with me with an absurd bill. -mb On 06/22/2012 08:45 AM, keith smith wrote: Hi, This is very OT. I have been with verizon for 8 years. Voice only. It has been 4 years since I upgraded our phones. It is just my wife and I. We are thinking of going with smart phones. A friend suggested HTC phones because of the better quality of speaker and mic. Voice quality is very important to me. As it stands we can get unlimited voice for $120/mo, 1000 texts for $10/mo and 2G of data for each phone for $20/ea/mo. Total is about $170/mo + tax and fees. I like verizon because they have always provided top of the line service. I've briefly looked at Straigt-Talk, T-Mobile, and Sprint. My fear with these providers is quality of the call, availability, and dropped calls. Any suggestions on which phone to get? From prior conversations on this list it seems a Droid phone is the way to go. I don't think I will ever want to take the time to root my phone, however you never know. What about phone apps and other things I might not be thinking about? I appreciate all the feedback you will provide! Thank you in advance for your help!! Keith Smith --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
Re: OT Verizon Smart Phones
Opps, 495/year for straight talk unlimited voice, not monthly. On 06/22/2012 10:37 PM, Michael Butash wrote: I have a galaxy nexus now, and I'm rather torn with it. It's the second samsung android that has given me nothing but fits, and I'm thoroughly convinced samsung cannot make hardware to save their life. I suffer from various issues from bluetooth/wifi instability, audio routing issues, simple reboots, you name it. But the display is friggin' beautiful. I snubbed a razr maxx because of the display, and cursed motorola for not having a 720p phone to compete at the time, as I'd take a moto phone any day. I've had a bionic and droidx, and both were good until either getting crashed on concrete or taking a swim inadvertently. Definitely noticed android usability got well improved with dual core going from dx to bionic, really looking forward to quad's. Just need to fix the battery life, as my gnex kills me with ~5hr use on charge. Service wise - I'm shopping right now after getting a +$900 phone bill this month from them. I've considered for a while, as for 3 phones, 2 with data, one 4g hotspot, I pay almost 250/mo, after a 21% employee discount. Slapping me upside the face for voice overage charges, even after I upgraded to unlimited minutes this month to avoid it has really been a bit too much. After years of that, it is starting to hurt just for the absurd cost alone. This is twice vzw has got me to leave, though first time I came back after sprint proved absolutely horrid both in wireless and customer service. A buddy went to straight-talk from att, which straight-talk uses att, and actually gets better quality service. I've noticed just from talking to him and not getting disconnected 3 times on every call. 460/mo I think for voice service is pretty damn reasonable, as I more or less consider voice legacy technology. I'm not keen on giving up on vzw's 4g service, especially my unlimited data @30/mo, but I know it's only a matter of time before they just screw everyone with it anyways. I've also read Clear Wireless has very reasonable rates, planning to do some more research on them this weekend. Vzw's new shared data is a joke, and more absurd than any of their current pricing. I was actually looking forward to it, as between my hotspot and phone, I don't really use *that* much data. Hotspot is more of a backup for work and really rarely used unless im traveling, so shared minutes should be a boon, but I'd pay well more than what I get today. I'd like a connected tablet too, but can't justify another 40-60/mo for one on a non-shared plan, and doesn't justify their shared at all. As much as I like vzw's service, it's getting harder to justify their cost, especially when they screw with me with an absurd bill. -mb On 06/22/2012 08:45 AM, keith smith wrote: Hi, This is very OT. I have been with verizon for 8 years. Voice only. It has been 4 years since I upgraded our phones. It is just my wife and I. We are thinking of going with smart phones. A friend suggested HTC phones because of the better quality of speaker and mic. Voice quality is very important to me. As it stands we can get unlimited voice for $120/mo, 1000 texts for $10/mo and 2G of data for each phone for $20/ea/mo. Total is about $170/mo + tax and fees. I like verizon because they have always provided top of the line service. I've briefly looked at Straigt-Talk, T-Mobile, and Sprint. My fear with these providers is quality of the call, availability, and dropped calls. Any suggestions on which phone to get? From prior conversations on this list it seems a Droid phone is the way to go. I don't think I will ever want to take the time to root my phone, however you never know. What about phone apps and other things I might not be thinking about? I appreciate all the feedback you will provide! Thank you in advance for your help!! Keith Smith --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
