Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] [Announce] Client Cleanup v1.0

2019-02-07 Thread Michael Herger

I apologize for the negativity. I've just wanted to know that the server
runs and will always run without any connection with mysb.com.


That was my motivation, too. I'm positive it will.


I actually almost regret having introuduced the --nomysqueezebox
parameter


Why is that? I don't understand.


As I said: the number of devices connecting to mysb ("calling home") is 
an indication as for how many users still use the SB. And the higher 
that number, the less likely management will decide to consider things 
dead, and shut down whatever infrastructure they're still paying for. 
Eg. this very forum!



I'm genuinely confused by the information in this thread. Sounds like
everyone else is, too.


It has become increasingly confusing because little of it has to do with 
the plugin itself. Most is about LMS issues exposed by the plugin, but 
not cause by it :-).


I keep mentioning the update I did on the 5th because that's when I 
published this plugin. "Latest" always only is relative, I know. The 
build from that day is latest enough.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Best way to use Tidal service on Squeezebox

2019-02-07 Thread Michael Herger

What's the best format/bitrate you can get out of Tidal just using
mysqueezebox.com to control your player?


FLAC should be possible, though using LMS' proxied streaming could help 
with network reliability.



Do you have to install LMS to get lossless FLAC?


AFAIK not yet. Once they switch to using https instead of http you'll 
need LMS.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Best way to use Tidal service on Squeezebox

2019-02-07 Thread DanSmedra


After years of paying the TIDAL premium subscription and having no
problems with other music sources, the chronic streaming interruptions
have beat me down. I canceled my subscription. :(



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Best way to use Tidal service on Squeezebox

2019-02-07 Thread dmcdayton


What's the best format/bitrate you can get out of Tidal just using
mysqueezebox.com to control your player?

Do you have to install LMS to get lossless FLAC?



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] [Announce] Client Cleanup v1.0

2019-02-07 Thread JJZolx


mherger wrote: 
> Don't be so negative.

I apologize for the negativity. I've just wanted to know that the server
runs and will always run without any connection with mysb.com.

> I actually almost regret having introuduced the --nomysqueezebox
> parameter

Why is that? I don't understand.

I'm genuinely confused by the information in this thread. Sounds like
everyone else is, too.

---

You keep mentioning an update to LMS, but it looks like it hasn't been
successfully updated since the morning of Feb 5.

http://downloads.slimdevices.com/nightly/?ver=7.9



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Logitech Media Server 7.9.2+squeezelite: Some m4a files don't play(faad_decode error)

2019-02-07 Thread bpa


Manul wrote: 
> Thanks for the explanation. I would also consider that metadata, but I
> guess that's a matter of semantics and personal taste. ;)> > > 
> > Metadata can be removed and the file will play.  Without this index the
> > file is unplayable - it is essential part of the MPEG4 compressed audio.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Logitech Media Server 7.9.2+squeezelite: Some m4a files don't play(faad_decode error)

2019-02-07 Thread Manul


Thanks for the explanation. I would also consider that metadata, but I
guess that's a matter of semantics and personal taste. ;)

Thank you also for the pointer to the faststart option, researching that
I found that ffmpeg also comes with a tool "qt-faststart" which does
just that, so the files are fixed now.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Logitech Media Server 7.9.2+squeezelite: Some m4a files don't play(faad_decode error)

2019-02-07 Thread bpa


Manul wrote: 
> Thank you, @bpa, seems like that was indeed the solution. I wasn't even
> aware it was possible to have the metadata (at least that's my
> interpretation of "index to the audio") at the end of the file. Sounds
> like an...interesting design decision. At least I can't think of any use
> case where it would make sense to have the raw data before knowing how
> to interpret i.

Not metadata but index into audio data.  AAC audio is split up into
"frames" - player needs to know the start of a frame in order to play
audio - index tell player where to find the start of each frame.  When
creating an audio file in a single pass it is easy to put index at end
of file as it is only available when compressed audio has been created.
To put index at start of file requires a 2nd pass.

The "offending" files can be easily fixed using ffmpeg and the "movflags
faststart" option.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Logitech Media Server 7.9.2+squeezelite: Some m4a files don't play(faad_decode error)

2019-02-07 Thread Manul


Thank you, @bpa, seems like that was indeed the solution. I wasn't even
aware it was possible to have the metadata (at least that's my
interpretation of "index to the audio") at the end of the file. Sounds
like an...interesting design decision. At least I can't think of any use
case where it would make sense to have the raw data before knowing how
to interpret it.

Anyway, I have a way to deal with this now, so not my concern. Thanks
again!



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] [Announce] Radio Paradise Lossless Streaming (Plugin v2)

2019-02-07 Thread philsparks


I just changed my players to "proxy" rather than "direct". 

I -think -it's a bit better, but not really sorted.  Been listening for
approx. 30mins and had two skips.  

The first one was mid song and it jumped to a short Rebecca "your
listening to radio paradise" announcement.  The second time, halfway
through a song it stopped and another song started playing.  

This was listening to a Pi-2 with PiCorePlayer loaded on it.  LMS is
sitting on a WHS-11 server.

Phil



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] [Announce] Squeezelite-X

2019-02-07 Thread rgdawson


left channel wrote: 
> Greg it is very niche, but that's what this forum is all about! :-) If
> you do decide to support this, in my opinion you would save yourself a
> lot of grief by explaining what it is at the top of that tab, writing
> something like "This option is for users with multiple sound cards in
> one PC supporting a multi-room setup."

Yah, I think I would need to improve terminology (e.g. "Multi-Room") and
some explanation as you suggest.  I probably need buy a USB sound card
in order to test error cases.  For the prototype, I just fixed up to 5
additional players. But I probably want to make that more dynamic. 
(More GUI work)

R Greg Dawson



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Squeezelite bluetooth audio output on ubuntu

2019-02-07 Thread paul-


We do it with piCorePlayer, using bluezalsa



piCorePlayer a small player for the Raspberry Pi in RAM. 
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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Logitech Media Server 7.9.2+squeezelite: Some m4a files don't play(faad_decode error)

2019-02-07 Thread bpa


Manul wrote: 
> Thank you very much for your help!
> 
> Unfortunately, I think the linked thread doesn't help me much as it's
> mainly concerned with conversion settings. I think, however, that
> squeezelite should be able to play both files natively.

Not if the index to the audio is at the end of the file - a streamed
file needs to have index at the start (in this cae the file needs to
modified by ffmpeg with faststart flag to move index to start of file).

However LMS has decided the file cannot be played natively by
squeezelite (assuming it is a normal buidl which can play AAC natively)
so it is trty to transcode.

Get a log with player.source set to "INFO" to see why LMS is trying to
transcode.



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[SlimDevices: Plugins] Squeezelite bluetooth audio output on ubuntu

2019-02-07 Thread Nomen Nescio


Is it possible to play audio through bluetooth on ubuntu using
squeezelite?
Audio over speakers is working but I get no sound on paired bluetooth
headset.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] [Announce] Radio Paradise Lossless Streaming (Plugin v2)

2019-02-07 Thread earthbased


mherger wrote: 
> ok, ok, got a new theory on the skipping issue. Bill's and rebecca's 
> announcements are no longer part of a larger segment of audio, but 
> sometimes come as their own short sound snippet. I've seen one as short
> 
> as 4 seconds. And i have some fuzzy logic built in which would act on 5s
> 
> offset of whatever. I would not be surprised if such a short snippet 
> would confuse my logic.
> 
> Could all of you who experience this issue often tell me what kind of 
> player you're using? The skipping could be related to audio buffer size.
> 
> Which would explain why i hardly ever experienced it on my transporter.
> 
> -- 
> 
> michael

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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Logitech Media Server 7.9.2+squeezelite: Some m4a files don't play(faad_decode error)

2019-02-07 Thread Manul


Thank you very much for your help!

Unfortunately, I think the linked thread doesn't help me much as it's
mainly concerned with conversion settings. I think, however, that
squeezelite should be able to play both files natively.

Interestingly, the 'faad' binary on the same machine is able to decode
the file without any issues.

Any other ideas anybody?



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] [Announce] Squeezelite-X

2019-02-07 Thread Peter Galbavy


I have no use for it *today* but it's cool enough a feature that I could
probably think of one ;-)



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] [Announce] Squeezelite-X

2019-02-07 Thread left channel


Greg it is very niche, but that's what this forum is all about! :-) If
you do decide to support this, in my opinion you would save yourself a
lot of grief by explaining what it is at the top of that tab, writing
something like "This option is for users with multiple sound cards in
one PC supporting a multi-room setup."



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Android
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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] [Announce] Client Cleanup v1.0

2019-02-07 Thread DJanGo


mherger wrote: 
> I actually almost regret having introuduced the 
> --nomysqueezebox parameter:

OT
Just changed my /etc/default/logitechmediaserver :)
/OT



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] [Announce] Client Cleanup v1.0

2019-02-07 Thread d6jg


chill wrote: 
> Ooh - tricky question.  I don't think I'd know where to start!  I see a
> lot of devices being sold on on eBay, but I'd guess that most end up
> connecting again with their new owners.  So the total number of hardware
> devices probably isn't going down very fast.  On the contrary, probably
> the pCP/Max2play/etc devices are growing in number faster than the
> original hardware is dying.  But I would have no clue how to estimate
> that number.  Maybe a number in the 10s of thousands in the UK, but
> multiplied up around the world - no idea!

I think higher than that in UK. SBs were sold in the likes of Currys for
a period as well as John Lewis etc. I think perhaps a couple of hundred
thousand.

If you scanned the internet for port 9000 and then multiplied the result
by 100 on the basis that only 1% of people have open ports would that
give us a clue or do we think 1% is too low? I'm not really advocating
that but I do remember a post where someone did just that and came back
with an enormous number.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] [Announce] Squeezelite-X

2019-02-07 Thread rgdawson


I have a working prototype version of Squeezelite-X that supports having
up to 5 Additional Players.  The use case for this is someone that has
multiple sound cards in one PC supporting a multi-room setup.  It works
as follows:

Additional Players are ignored if the Primary Player is not enabled.

You would click the "+" button to show the Additional Players
configuration screen.

26714

Additional Players are instantiated using the same configuration
settings as the Primary Player, except Additional Players have their own
Name and Output Device.

26715

Press "Back" to return to main settings screen, and "Apply" to apply the
new settings.

26716

I'm on the fence on this.  Maybe it is too niche.  Maybe too many people
will be confused.  Maybe people will have issues that I will be unable
to trouble-shoot/test.  I'm looking for some feedback on whether to
deploy this.  Thoughts anyone?

R Greg Dawson


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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Logitech Media Server 7.9.2+squeezelite: Some m4a files don't play(faad_decode error)

2019-02-07 Thread Man in a van


So I did a search for 


Code:

squeezebox mp41/isom



and found this

https://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?108370-MPEG-4-AAC-France-Musique-Podcasts

I'm not saying that this is the answer (or even the problem) but yer man
is a bit busy at the mo.

It might give you a bit of a clue though/or not (I don't understand it
:o )

ronnie



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[SlimDevices: Plugins] Logitech Media Server 7.9.2+squeezelite: Some m4a files don't play(faad_decode error)

2019-02-07 Thread Manul


I'm running LMS 7.9.2 on a Linux server and squeezelite on a number of
Linux clients (Raspberries and Intel). I see the phenomenon that some of
my m4a files play without problem while others don't.

Here's the mediainfo for a file that works:


Code:

General
  Complete name: Austin Lucas/The Common Cold/01 
Dead Factories.m4a
  Format   : MPEG-4
  Format profile   : Apple audio with iTunes info
  Codec ID : M4A  (M4A /mp42/isom)
  File size: 3.85 MiB
  Duration : 2 min 44 s
  Overall bit rate mode: Variable
  Overall bit rate : 196 kb/s
  Album: The Common Cold
  Track name   : Dead Factories
  Track name/Position  : 1
  Track name/Total : 9
  Performer: Austin Lucas
  Performer/Sorted by  : Lucas, Austin
  Genre: Country
  Encoded date : UTC 2008-06-10 23:55:55
  Tagged date  : UTC 2013-02-02 17:16:40
  Writing application  : iTunes v7.6.2, QuickTime 7.4.5
  Cover: Yes
  
  Audio
  ID   : 1
  Format   : AAC LC
  Format/Info  : Advanced Audio Codec Low Complexity
  Codec ID : mp4a-40-2
  Duration : 2 min 44 s
  Bit rate mode: Variable
  Bit rate : 192 kb/s
  Maximum bit rate : 257 kb/s
  Channel(s)   : 2 channels
  Channel layout   : L R
  Sampling rate: 44.1 kHz
  Frame rate   : 43.066 FPS (1024 SPF)
  Compression mode : Lossy
  Stream size  : 3.79 MiB (98%)
  Encoded date : UTC 2008-06-10 23:55:55
  Tagged date  : UTC 2013-02-02 17:16:40



and here for one that doesn't:


Code:

General
  Complete name: Jayme Stone/Jayme Stone's Lomax 
Project/01 Lazy John.m4a
  Format   : MPEG-4
  Format profile   : Base Media / Version 1
  Codec ID : mp41 (mp41/isom)
  File size: 7.22 MiB
  Duration : 3 min 1 s
  Overall bit rate mode: Constant
  Overall bit rate : 334 kb/s
  Album: Jayme Stone's Lomax Project
  Track name   : Lazy John
  Track name/Position  : 1
  Performer: Jayme Stone
  Encoded date : UTC 2014-12-24 16:16:01
  Tagged date  : UTC 2015-09-27 19:27:04
  Cover: Yes
  
  Audio
  ID   : 1
  Format   : AAC LC
  Format/Info  : Advanced Audio Codec Low Complexity
  Codec ID : mp4a-40-2
  Duration : 3 min 1 s
  Bit rate mode: Constant
  Bit rate : 320 kb/s
  Channel(s)   : 2 channels
  Channel layout   : L R
  Sampling rate: 44.1 kHz
  Frame rate   : 43.066 FPS (1024 SPF)
  Compression mode : Lossy
  Stream size  : 6.92 MiB (96%)
  Language : English
  Encoded date : UTC 2014-12-24 16:16:01
  Tagged date  : UTC 2015-09-27 19:27:04



Upon trying to play back the latter, I get the following entry in the
server log:


Code:

[19-02-07 11:49:33.2965] Slim::Player::Squeezebox2::statHandler (150) 
Error: 84:2b:2b:ad:e2:30: Decoder does not support file format, code 0



And the following in squeezelite's log:


Code:

HTTP/1.1 200 OK
  Server: Logitech Media Server (7.9.2 - 1548942599)
  Connection: close
  Content-Type: audio/aac
  
  
  [13:16:10.178956] sendRESP:202 RESP
  [13:16:10.581453] read_mp4_header:294 type: ftyp len: 24 consume: 24
  [13:16:10.581532] read_mp4_header:235 type: mdat len: 

Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] [Announce] Radio Paradise Lossless Streaming (Plugin v2)

2019-02-07 Thread Heuer


mherger wrote: 
> > Boom and SB3 here.
> and you're facing issues with interruptions through Bill's 
> announcements, too? If so, how bad is it? And what RP channel are you 
> listening to?
> 
> -- 
> 
> Michael

Main FLAC stream. Song stops followed by a pause and then a Bill
announcement. Does not seem to happen on the Main 320k stream.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] [Announce] Client Cleanup v1.0

2019-02-07 Thread chill


Ooh - tricky question.  I don't think I'd know where to start!  I see a
lot of devices being sold on on eBay, but I'd guess that most end up
connecting again with their new owners.  So the total number of hardware
devices probably isn't going down very fast.  On the contrary, probably
the pCP/Max2play/etc devices are growing in number faster than the
original hardware is dying.  But I would have no clue how to estimate
that number.  Maybe a number in the 10s of thousands in the UK, but
multiplied up around the world - no idea!



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] [Announce] Client Cleanup v1.0

2019-02-07 Thread Michael Herger

And trust me, people are amazed over and over
again when they see how many SB users there still are!


Out of interest, are you allowed to give us a ballpark figure?


I'm pretty positive I'm not. And if I tried to get an answer to this 
question I'd probably never get a response.


What would be your guess?

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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] [Announce] Client Cleanup v1.0

2019-02-07 Thread chill


mherger wrote: 
> And trust me, people are amazed over and over 
> again when they see how many SB users there still are!

Out of interest, are you allowed to give us a ballpark figure?



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