Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce : BBC Sounds Plugin

2022-12-05 Thread ChaoticMike


expectingtofly wrote: 
> If your sign-in token has expired (it lasts 2 years) it appears at the
> moment you need to sign-out and sign-in again.  It looks like that is
> something that needs fixing in the plugin.

Yes, I went through signout/signin, and normal service was resumed.

Thank you everyone.

Mike



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce : BBC Sounds Plugin

2022-12-05 Thread ChaoticMike


For me, I have 2 favourites that work, but attempts to access anything
from the BBC Sounds root all get the API not found error.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce : BBC Sounds Plugin

2022-12-04 Thread ChaoticMike


Nojelc wrote: 
> My Sounds has stopped working. I am getting the message "Unable to
> contact the BBC API please check your internet settings"
> 
> Everything else connecting and playing OK. I updated to 2.26.1 expecting
> that to fix the problem ( it normally does), but I am still getting the
> error message.
> 
> Anyone know what the problem is?

Same issue here.  Which log?/var/log/squeezeboxserver/server.log is
full of stuff from Spotty, e.g. 

[22-12-04 15:10:34.1979]
Plugins::Spotty::Connect::DaemonManager::checkAPIConnectPlayers (210)
Connect daemon is running, but not connected - shutting down to force
restart: 00:04:20:16:1e:3b Shed
[22-12-04 15:10:34.2026]
Plugins::Spotty::Connect::DaemonManager::checkAPIConnectPlayers (210)
Connect daemon is running, but not connected - shutting down to force
restart: 00:04:20:16:25:55 Living Room
[22-12-04 17:56:35.1853] Plugins::Spotty::API::__ANON__ (1442) API call:
me/player/devices
[22-12-04 17:56:35.1860] Plugins::Spotty::API::__ANON__ (1446) error:
503 Service Unavailable

But nothing from BBC sounds.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] [Announce] Spotty 3.x - Spotify Podcasts on your Squeezebox

2019-11-29 Thread ChaoticMike


mherger wrote: 
> > I was wondering, when you use the 'Transfer Playback' feature, what
> > routing is taking place?  I can think of 2 possibilities:
> 
> I try to get from Spotify what currently is playing. Then I try to start
> 
> the same on a SB.
> 
> That feature is really old, pre-dates the Connect feature in Spotty. And
> 
> it's, well, spotty at best. Because not all content played on Spotify 
> would give me enough information to really play back the same thing on
> SB.
> 
> -- 
> 
> Michael

That was quick!  Do you mean the Connect to a computer/some other device
feature in Spotify, rather than Spotty?  Which, in my experience is
pretty flaky too!  Alternatively, I've missed something in Spotty
(which, along with Triode's BBC iPlayer) is probably the most used app I
have...

Mike



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] [Announce] Spotty 3.x - Spotify Podcasts on your Squeezebox

2019-11-29 Thread ChaoticMike


Hi Michael,

Firstly, thanks for your work - it is tremendous!

I was wondering, when you use the 'Transfer Playback' feature, what
routing is taking place?  I can think of 2 possibilities:

  
- The device you are transferring from remains the Spotify 'streaming
  download' end point, and it then forwards the packets to the LMS.  It
  must need to maintain its connection to Spotify for that to work
- Some piece of voodoo magic persuades Spotify that the streaming
  download target is now the LMS; As long as the LMS has connectivity to
  Spotify, all is good
  

Alternatively, something else entirely happens!

So... which is it?

Best regards,

Mike



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer V1.6 (and higher) & BBCiPlayerExtra 2.0 (and higher) Support

2019-06-04 Thread ChaoticMike


bpa wrote: 
> Have you tried the Network Test facility of the Boom ? 

No, but only because the network test of the Duet Receivers has never
seemd very reliable/usable/easy to interpret.  Is it better on the
Boom?


bpa wrote: 
> It's a bit worrying you don't know the topology of your own network. 

It's not so much that I don't know the topology of my network; more that
devices seem to happily associate themselves with not necessarily the
strongest or nearest network segment.  Particularly if a device like an
extender (or the main router) reboots or is down for a few minutes:
devices associate themselves with a different segment.  The control
console for the Virgin router/hub isn't brilliant - sometimes it just
doesn't show things that I can *see* are online, and things that are
wirelessly connected to WiFi extenders are classed as being on a wired
interface from the point of view of the Virgin hub, presumably because
the extenders *are* wired, sort of.  (Virgin Router->Cat5->wall
connected master extender->household wiring->slave
extender->WiFi->Connected Device.  Looking at that, its a wonder
anything works...)


bpa wrote: 
> LMS does does not multicast even when players are synced.  LMS sends an
> exact copy of each packet (in the lowest common format so if Boom is
> synced with Joggler - it will be Flac transcoded stream) to each player.
> So if each player is getting Flac - then your network has to be able to
> support 700kbps per player.  When players are synced - then the packets
> are sent at the same time so big bursts of data which will stress a
> network. If your wireless extenders are the sort that halve bandwidth
> and similarly with Powerline with a shared medium - all these weakpoints
> will be shown up by playing synced Flac streams.

This might be something to delve into.  Although the Wireless LAN is
*supposed* to give 155Mbps, I am very aware that represents a total
bandwidth, that needs to accommodate signalling protocols as well as
usable packets.  Even so, if it was being halved by extenders, or
quartered because there are 2 (would that happen?  I'm not daisy
chaining extenders), that *ought* to give a fair chunk of usable low
latency bandwidth.  Can you recommend a good Windoze or Android network
analysis tool?  :-)

Mike



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer V1.6 (and higher) & BBCiPlayerExtra 2.0 (and higher) Support

2019-06-04 Thread ChaoticMike


bpa wrote: 
> With LMS the ID number is Epoch time of last change - the date string is
> the build date - so your 7.9.1 LMS version had last change made on 27
> Mar 2018 but the (nightly?) build that was installed was created on 30
> Mar2018.
> 
> So does this mean the BBCiPlayer stream are a bit better with LMS 7.9.2
> ?
> The logged long packet delay are due to the BBC side and are not huge so
> wouldn't cause rebuffering.
> 
> Joggler may be able to play AAC natively so network load will be lighter
> than transcoded (320kbps vs 700kbps) and so more reliable.
> A SB Radio can play AAC natively - I don't know what you mean by a Duet
> Radio not a "normal" name - the Duet Receiver cannot play AAC natively
> 
> If Soma streams (or even BBC R3 320kbps http/AAC
> http://open.live.bbc.co.uk/mediaselector/5/select/version/2.0/mediaset/http-icy-aac-lc-a/format/pls/proto/http/transferformat/hls/vpid/bbc_radio_three.pls
> )  still rebuffer - you should chase down the issue. If the wireless
> extended can "see" each other and are all on 2.4GHz (but various
> channels)  - I think extenders may be reducing your wireless network
> bandwidth severely.

Thanks again. I'll see if I can get some LAN metrics out of the
extenders. The 7.9.2 is a great deal better, but not totally perfect.
You're right, I should have been referring to Duet Receivers, of which
there are several. They *might* all be on different segments, I'll see!
When devices are synced, does SBS multicast? I'm wondering if there are
problems in there... One of the changes I have made is to unsync
devices. If I feel suitably motivated I'll build a little matrix of the
various config options and see if I can reliably recreate the problem. 

Mike



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer V1.6 (and higher) & BBCiPlayerExtra 2.0 (and higher) Support

2019-06-03 Thread ChaoticMike


bpa wrote: 
> If the rebuffering also happens with Somafm streams which is a simple
> AAC stream - it means your local LMS and/or LAN is not up playing AAC
> trancoded into Flac streams (i.e. Boom, Receiver)
> 
> I think the BBCIPlayer problem is an additional problem
> I notice you are on LMS 7.9.1 1522157629 (= 27March 2018).  This is not
> a full 7.9.1.release but it is a beta before 7.9.1 release. There was a
> patch to LMS in July 2018 which is needed for BBCiPlayer 1.6.2 (Dec
> 2018) and later - if you run without this patch on 7.9.1 (i.e. a beta
> version) there are strange effects.  The BBCiPlayer plugin detects if
> LMS version is 7.9.0 or earlier and avoids this issue.
> 
> Since you are running LMS 7.9.1 pre JUly 2018 - I think this is
> exacerbating the rebuffering for streams through BBCiPlayer.
> 
> Can you upgrade a 7.9.1 release or at least after Jul 2018 ?

I went to the Max2Play console and prodded the 'update Squeezebox
server' button.  The log has the same ID number (1522157629) but a
date/time of Fri Mar 30 12:27:11 CEST 2018.  Assuming that wasn't going
to be much better, I did a bit of digging, acquired and downloaded the
latest nightly build, which gives us the log attached.

Currently, all sounding stable on the Joggler connected to the WiFi
router via Cat-5, (as is the SBS host).  Bet this doesn't last!

And in case I forget...  a huge thank you for your attention!


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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer V1.6 (and higher) & BBCiPlayerExtra 2.0 (and higher) Support

2019-06-03 Thread ChaoticMike


Thanks again bpa.  Acting on a suspicion, I persuaded the Boom to join a
WiFi segment directly running from the WiFi access point (i.e. not
offered by an extender) and buffering problems went away.  Directly
before I did that, on the extender's segment, it was dropping and
buffering, so I think I *might* have found the issue.  I reconnected to
the dodgy segment and buffering restarted.  However, if you are still
interested (and I admit to being intrigued nonetheless) please find
attached the server log and the answers to your questions...

Server log:

2019-06-03 13:21:56 squeezeboxserver_safe started.
[19-06-03 13:22:00.4872] main::init (387) Starting Logitech Media Server
(v7.9.1, 1522157629, Fri Mar 30 12:27:11 CEST 2018) perl 5.020002 -
arm-linux-gnueabihf-thread-multi-64int
[19-06-03 13:22:38.6702] Plugins::Spotty::API::_gotTokenResponse (179)
Failed to get Spotify access token: malformed JSON string, neither
array, object, number, string or atom, at character offset 0 (before
"getToken timed out") at
/var/lib/squeezeboxserver/cache/InstalledPlugins/Plugins/Spotty/API.pm
line 176.

getToken timed out
[19-06-03 13:22:38.6708] Plugins::Spotty::API::_gotTokenResponse (194)
Failed to get Spotify access token


Other questions:

*How do I connect? * Either via a favourite stored on the Boom (if I'm
near it) or via the menu on the iPlayer plugin accessed through the
Android SqueezeCtrl app.  Weirdly, SqueezeCtrl appears to think this is
something to do with Spotify however if I use the web front end I get
the following highly friendly URL: 
iplayer://live/?hls=http://a.files.bbci.co.uk/media/live/manifesto/audio/simulcast/hls/uk/sbr_high/ak/bbc_radio_fourfm.m3u8=http://a.files.bbci.co.uk/media/live/manifesto/audio/simulcast/dash/uk/dash_full/ak/bbc_radio_fourfm.mpd=http://radio-service-information.api.bbci.co.uk/logos/bbc_radio_four/600x600.png=fm/ce1/c204/09320=bbc_radio_fourfm

*How long does rebuffering take?*  Typically about 5 seconds to refill
the buffer, but its a little variable.

*Live or play again only?* Both

*Does it happen with SomFM?* Yes, instant buffering occurred.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer V1.6 (and higher) & BBCiPlayerExtra 2.0 (and higher) Support

2019-06-03 Thread ChaoticMike


slartibartfast wrote: 
> Have you tried rebooting the Virginmedia router? Rebooting my Hub3 often
> resolves issues.
> 
> Sent from my SM-G900F using Tapatalk

*Many* times! :-) 

However, as I type I am using a Duet radio on a separate network segment
than the Boom, and its smooth as silk - not a buffering to be heard.
Maybe I should attack the WiFi extender that feeds the Boom.

Mike



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer V1.6 (and higher) & BBCiPlayerExtra 2.0 (and higher) Support

2019-06-03 Thread ChaoticMike


Hi bpa,

I stopped the Squeezebox server (SBS) process, emptied the logs and
restarted, followed by a connection to the R4 feed via the BBC iPlayer
app.  Dropouts continue, but there is nothing relevant being recorded in
the SBS' error log.  There's a warning about a missing Spotify token,
but I don't think that is a concern.  I'd post a copy, but there really
isn't anything to see.

Are there any flags I can set anywhere that could temporarily turn up
the logging on the SBS?

My WAN supply is Virgin media broadband, which is supposed to be a swift
and wide pipe.  The LAN is the Virgin box providing wireless in some
part of the house, augmented by powerline extenders.  I know the
Raspberry Pi 3 that hosts SBS is directly attached to the wireless
router via Cat-5.  It's not always easy to tell, but I'm pretty sure the
Boom is on a wireless extended segment, as are two other Duet radios. 
The Joggler is also wired directly onto the wireless router, a further
Duet is on a second wireless extender segment.

As far as the various slim protocols are concerned, is the network
assumed to be present and irrelevant (i.e. devices are expected to be
able to reach the SBS process, and it doesn't try any network management
tricks itself?

Yesterday, for a short period, Spotty/Spotify was playing up with
dropouts, but that seems to have stopped.  I'm listening to Spotify
right now, and its find.  If I swap back to Radio 4, I'm back in a world
of buffering.

Any ideas on turning up the wick on network monitoring, or other
investigations I can carry out?

Best regards,

Mike



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer V1.6 (and higher) & BBCiPlayerExtra 2.0 (and higher) Support

2019-06-01 Thread ChaoticMike

Hello, BPA and all, the buffering issue I had last week is back, and (if
anything) worse.  In a spirit of troubleshooting, I SSH-ed onto the pi
that runs my squeezeboxserver and set up a ping to open.live.bbc.co.uk,
on the assumption that that is where the data streams from.

During the time I was doing this, the average round trip ping was of the
order of 36msec, the worst offender was 107ms.  The squeezebox log has
some evidence of the "Long chunk fetch time" message from earlier today,
but as I type...

  it is dropping out and buffering
  the results of a ping looks like as follows:  "64 bytes from
  bbc-vip096.lbh.bbc.co.uk (212.58.249.158): icmp_seq=1 ttl=55 time=34.7
  ms"
  There are no recent 'long chunk fetch time' errors in the log, but the
  buffering remains a 'feature'
  

I realise I'm not providing absolutely everything you might want, but I
was hoping that someone with a knowledge of the architecture of the
plugin (the smart money is on bpa…) would have a view on whether the
problem could lie on my LAN?

Best regards,

Mike



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer V1.6 (and higher) & BBCiPlayerExtra 2.0 (and higher) Support

2019-05-27 Thread ChaoticMike


Hello,

I finally got the logs, I've attached the most recent ~150 lines as a
file.  I think the key message is of the form "[19-05-22 12:15:17.1362]
Plugins::BBCiPlayer::HLS::__ANON__ (310) Chunk fetch status 200 Long
chunk fetch time 1683".

Which is probably to do with the WAN?

Cheers,

Mike


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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer V1.6 (and higher) & BBCiPlayerExtra 2.0 (and higher) Support

2019-05-26 Thread ChaoticMike


bpa wrote: 
> You should be getting any buffering with that setup unless it is maybe a
> pi v1.
> 
> I think the problem is not with the BBC or thge plugin.
> 
> Iam not in the UK. I have a lousy internet connection running on a Pi
> with weird Wifi/Powerline setup because of poor signal distribution and
> have no rebuffering  - more info (e.g. logs reports) may help point the
> real cause and how to fix.
> 
> I'm assuming LMS is also running on Pi 
> What sort of Pi ?
> What sort of players are playing BBC ?
> What else is running on the Pi at the same time ?
> Are players all synced ?
> What are your plugin Settings ?
> What version of LMS and plugin ?
> 
> Any "delay" message from plugin in LMS server.log ?

I had password 'issues' with the forum. TLDR; It's now working, I didn't
do anything. 

The pi only runs the LMS, it does nothing else. A 'top' command shows it
to be doing nothing, most of the time.
Its a mark 3, I think
Variously I use three Duets, a Boom, an O2 Joggler running Birds Like
Wire's SqueezeOS
Pi is very lightly loaded
Not all players are synced
Plugin settings are (now) what was screenshotted earlier
Everything is up to date, all components are set to autoupdate . 

I'll be waiting to see if the problem recurs now.  It has been an
intermittent 'feature' for months, currently all is good!

Thanks, 

Mike



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer V1.6 (and higher) & BBCiPlayerExtra 2.0 (and higher) Support

2019-05-22 Thread ChaoticMike


Hello all, I'm a UK resident, Virgin fibre broadband, Max2play-on-pi
powered, listening on Booms, Duets, and an O2 Joggler lover of Radio 4
being driven mad by intermittent buffering on BBC streams. What is the
optimal stream selection priority I should be using, and/or buffering
options? I know BPA is pretty good at responding, but if anyone else out
there has/had similar issues, I'm all ears!
Mike



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Fix to BBC Radio Applet Listen Again

2018-10-19 Thread ChaoticMike


Thanks again.  It would appear BBC have a fairly cavalier approach to
APIs, then?  I suppose they are coming at it from the "we've got them,
you want them and we aren't under any SLA or obligation to maintain them
to an agreed description" point of view.  Which I can sort of understand
but obviously makes your life harder than it needs to be...

Thanks again...



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Fix to BBC Radio Applet Listen Again

2018-10-19 Thread ChaoticMike


bpa wrote: 
> Did you just migrate from an older version of plugin ? 
> 
> The program doesn't play in HLS but plays OK in DASH so please change
> the BBCiPlayer setting to 
> DASH > HLS > MP3 > FlashAAC
> 
> 
> I can't maintain the HLS stuff as I don't have any Apple gear and I
> don't know whether the problem is a BBC one or a plugin one.


And we have a winner!  Thanks!

Depends what you mean by recently!  I had an issue with LA about 2 or 3
months ago, and you recommended then that I should upgrade to 1.6, which
I did.  I have no knowledge or understanding of the various CODEC
preferences, and therefore didn't even know there was some form of Apple
weirdness in there.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Fix to BBC Radio Applet Listen Again

2018-10-19 Thread ChaoticMike


bpa wrote: 
> What player ?Either Duet players, or a Boom.  Neither works.
> Are you pretending to be in UK using a VPN ?  No, I'm a totally legal,
> licence-fee paying upstanding member of the public
> Exactly what menu sequence (e.g. Home->Radio->BBC iPlayer->BBC Radio 4
> FM ->15 Minute Drama-> xyxyx Episode 3 )  did you use ? (so I can
> replicate) Home/My Apps/BBC iPlayer/BBC Radio 4 FM/Friday 12-Oct/18:30
> The News Quiz: Series 97: Episode 7/ - which shows me a URI of
> " 
> iplayer://aod?hls=http://open.live.bbc.co.uk/mediaselector/5/redir/version/2.0/vpid/mpf7/mediaset/audio-syndication/proto/http=http://open.live.bbc.co.uk/mediaselector/5/redir/version/2.0/mediaset/audio-syndication-dash/proto/http/vpid/mpf7=1800=http://ichef.bbci.co.uk/images/ic/512x288/p06nn93v.jpg=The%20Ne;
> in the web browser
> What are your LMS BBCiPlayer Settings ?
Is it worth saying that I usually control things with SqueezeControl
from an Android phone?  But for the purposes of elimination, I'm driving
everything from the LMS web GUI.25807


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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Fix to BBC Radio Applet Listen Again

2018-10-19 Thread ChaoticMike


I am running 1.6, and also have the repo registered.  I just set the
'automatically update plugins' check box and restarted LMS.  The web
interface shows me 'playing' a LA track, but there is silence.  Any
ideas?  :-)
Also, thanks so much for the work you do here.
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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Fix to BBC Radio Applet Listen Again

2018-10-19 Thread ChaoticMike


Hi, my Max2play-powered installation has also stopped working on iPlayer
Listen Again, with the same symptoms as halasz. All used to be fine, but
the zip file referenced above
https://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?109446-BBCiplayer-play-it-again-list-shows-404=921098=1#post921098
seems to predate this latest bust, and I think it is already installed.
Am I missing something obvious? 
Thx. 
Mike



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: BBCiPlayer Plugin (UK only)

2018-09-18 Thread ChaoticMike


Hello, I have just started getting 404 errors from the iPlayer plug in
when choosing stations from the main menu.. The one with 'Listen Live'
at the top. I can drill into the lower levels OK, but the main stations
(4FM in particular!) don't resolve. In the spirit of "If it ain't broke,
don't fix it" I haven't changed anything for ages. Can anyone help?
Mike



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Installing Max2Play and Spotty on a SD card for the technically challenged

2017-07-29 Thread ChaoticMike

Thank you, wonderful SB community.  After a week without Spotify, 15
minutes with a new Raspberry Pi and the instructions in the first post
and I was back up and running!  I have *no idea* what the other
components running on the Pi that *aren't* squeezebox/LMS related, but I
don't care.  Once again I can stagger drunkenly around my house with
synchronised music popping out of the woodwork.

Again, thanks.  I'm now off to Michael Herger's page to give a swift
donation...

Mike



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] [Announce] Spotty v1.1.0

2017-07-23 Thread ChaoticMike

mherger wrote: 
> >> 1. Am I screwed due to old hardware?
> 
> Unfortunately, yes. As I was. My NAS is using the same CPU as your
> plug.
> 
> > Bump... Just want to know if I am going to have to throw money at the
> > problem and buy a Raspberry Pi.  Bit irritating if I do, because my
> > SheevaPlug is a simple system on a chip that has done me proud up
> until
> > now.
> 
> Trust me: the improved performance of a Pi vs. that device is worth the
> 
> money.
> 
> -- 
> 
> Michael

Thank you Michael.  AS I said, a bit irritating, but at least I know
what I need to do, and can take steps.  I probably won't notice any
performance difference, though... I never had a problem with the little
SheevaPlug.  So... attention rest of the community!  What is the
Raspberry Pi of my dreams to do this?  Does anyone do a kit
(PSU/box/board), or is it literally as simple as buying the individual
bits and booting a Max2Play image from an SD card?  Thanks, all...

Mike



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] [Announce] Spotty v1.1.0

2017-07-23 Thread ChaoticMike

ChaoticMike wrote: 
> Hello all, I have read *most* of this thread but don't think my
> particular problem has been described.
> First, I take note of the warnings about flavours of ARM chip.  My
> kernel is "Linux 2.6.38.8-squeezeplug armv5tel" - I am running the
> infamous SqueezePlug distribution, it has worked very well up until now.
> I have also upgraded LMS to the latest overnight, and the OS for the
> kernel is up to date (I think...!)
> 
> I successfully handled the IO library problem-before I even read the
> thread!- but am now stuck with a couple of error messages, -viz.-
> 
> 
> * When I access the Spotty app from the LMS 'My Apps' path, I get:
> "Spotify Credentials missing.  Please check Settings/Advanced/Spotty
> Spotify for Squeezebox in the web interface"
> 
> * When I go to that settings area, I get :
> _
> "There has been a problem running the Spotty helper application. Most
> likely your operating system and/or platform is not supported. Please
> report the following details to me:
> 
> Operating system: Debian / armv7l-linux
> 
> Helper Applications Folder:
> /usr/share/squeezeboxserver/Bin/arm-linux
> /usr/share/squeezeboxserver/Bin
> /usr/local/sbin
> /usr/local/bin
> /sbin
> /bin
> /usr/sbin
> /usr/bin
> /var/lib/squeezeboxserver/cache/InstalledPlugins/Plugins/PlayHLS/Bin
> /var/lib/squeezeboxserver/cache/InstalledPlugins/Plugins/PlayWMA/Bin
> /var/lib/squeezeboxserver/cache/InstalledPlugins/Plugins/Spotty/Bin/arm-linux
> /var/lib/squeezeboxserver/cache/InstalledPlugins/Plugins/Spotty/Bin
> ldd (Debian EGLIBC 2.13-38+deb7u12) 2.13"
> 
> ___
> 
> The 'Add Account' button doesn't work - it can be clicked, but nothing
> happens.  So I can't specify a username/password combo.  I have removed
> dodgy characters from my Spotify password, it's now old-fashioned text
> and numbers.
> 
> 2 questions, then:
> 1. Am I screwed due to old hardware?
> 2. If I'm not, what do I need to do?
> 
> The community has yet to let me down, and I'm sure it isn't going to
> this time, either.  I will be contributing to Michael's fund just as
> soon as I re-find the donation link!
> 
> Mike

Bump... Just want to know if I am going to have to throw money at the
problem and buy a Raspberry Pi.  Bit irritating if I do, because my
SheevaPlug is a simple system on a chip that has done me proud up until
now.

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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] [Announce] Spotty v1.1.0

2017-07-22 Thread ChaoticMike

Hello all, I have read *most* of this thread but don't think my
particular problem has been described.
First, I take note of the warnings about flavours of ARM chip.  My
kernel is "Linux 2.6.38.8-squeezeplug armv5tel" - I am running the
infamous SqueezePlug distribution, it has worked very well up until now.
I have also upgraded LMS to the latest overnight, and the OS for the
kernel is up to date (I think...!)

I successfully handled the IO library problem-before I even read the
thread!- but am now stuck with a couple of error messages, -viz.-


* When I access the Spotty app from the LMS 'My Apps' path, I get:
"Spotify Credentials missing.  Please check Settings/Advanced/Spotty
Spotify for Squeezebox in the web interface"

* When I go to that settings area, I get :
_
"There has been a problem running the Spotty helper application. Most
likely your operating system and/or platform is not supported. Please
report the following details to me:

Operating system: Debian / armv7l-linux

Helper Applications Folder:
/usr/share/squeezeboxserver/Bin/arm-linux
/usr/share/squeezeboxserver/Bin
/usr/local/sbin
/usr/local/bin
/sbin
/bin
/usr/sbin
/usr/bin
/var/lib/squeezeboxserver/cache/InstalledPlugins/Plugins/PlayHLS/Bin
/var/lib/squeezeboxserver/cache/InstalledPlugins/Plugins/PlayWMA/Bin
/var/lib/squeezeboxserver/cache/InstalledPlugins/Plugins/Spotty/Bin/arm-linux
/var/lib/squeezeboxserver/cache/InstalledPlugins/Plugins/Spotty/Bin
ldd (Debian EGLIBC 2.13-38+deb7u12) 2.13"

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The 'Add Account' button doesn't work - it can be clicked, but nothing
happens.  So I can't specify a username/password combo.  I have removed
dodgy characters from my Spotify password, it's now old-fashioned text
and numbers.

2 questions, then:
1. Am I screwed due to old hardware?
2. If I'm not, what do I need to do?

The community has yet to let me down, and I'm sure it isn't going to
this time, either.  I will be contributing to Michael's fund just as
soon as I re-find the donation link!

Mike



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: BBCiPlayer Plugin (UK only)

2015-11-02 Thread ChaoticMike

tallpaul wrote: 
> Aha, I was just looking at that file. How do I clear it? 'rm' and
> 'touch'?

Just delete it (rm).  It is automatically rebuilt when LMS starts up.  I
can't recall if you need to have stopped LMS before deleting, i.e.
whether there is a lock on it.

Mike



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: BBCiPlayer Plugin (UK only)

2015-11-01 Thread ChaoticMike

Hi All,

I tried utgg's patch, but I continue to get a message "Error: No items
found in playlist for [...]" where [...] is what I want to listen to. 
Hmmph.  Anyone know what I am doing wrong?  I deleted cache.db and got a
whole new bunch of nice pictures representing the items in Listen Again,
just no actual listening...

Mike

PS - It doesn't help that I can't always remember the arcane paths under
Linux to find things, but I got there in the end!



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: BBCiPlayer Plugin (UK only)

2015-11-01 Thread ChaoticMike

bpa wrote: 
> More details.
> Platform ?
> What version of plugin did you have installed ?
> Have you kept up to date with patches ?
> 
> In the Listen Agin list of program - did you get a list of programs ? 
> Are they up to date (e.g. can you see the shipping forecast for
> 1/11/15)?  Are they playable (i.e.do they have play icons on RHS) ?

Squeezeplug platform, so it is running on Ubuntu Wheezy

Plugin is v1.2.14

Patching I don't actively pursue, as I subscribe to the 'If it ain't
broke...' school of software engineering (I sort of do large systems
integrations for a living.  Everything is fragile, these days)

In LA, I have the Shipping Forecast for 05:20 today

I use SqueezeControl on Android for my main GUI, on the RHS I see either
a circle with a cross in, or nothing.  I think that icon represents
'playability'; blank entries take you into a choice of episodes, which
then have that same icon.

Looking forward to suggestions!



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: BBCiPlayer Plugin (UK only)

2015-11-01 Thread ChaoticMike

You need to download the utgg modified BBCXMLParser.pm script. It is
referenced on this thread at about page 407.  When downloaded, you copy
the thread to the Plug-ins folder relevant to your installation - if you
are UNIX based it'll likely be something like
/var/lib/squeezeboxserver/cache/InstalledPlugins/Plugins/BBCiPlayer. 
You will know if you have the right place because there will already be
a BBCXMLParser.pm in there.


Knocking out cache.db from the like /var/lib/squeezeboxserver/cache
directory might also help.

HTH,

Mike (Giving something back...!)



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: BBCiPlayer Plugin (UK only)

2015-11-01 Thread ChaoticMike

I've said it before and I'll say it again, I love this community!

Mike



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: BBCiPlayer Plugin (UK only)

2015-03-17 Thread ChaoticMike

 It has been said before, but if there was a way to donate money to
 Triode, I would happily do so.

Or the charity of his choice?



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer plugin - a guick fix guide

2015-03-11 Thread ChaoticMike

Brilliant!  Couldn't get it to work yesterday futzing around inside
files, but a swift replace using your instructions did the trick.

Thanks for the clarity.

Mike



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: BBCiPlayer Plugin (UK only)

2015-02-28 Thread ChaoticMike

robjordan wrote: 
 
 
 Chaoticmike, you don't need to know where to install ffmpeg if you are
 installing it with apt-get. It will be placed in /usr/bin and made
 executable.
 

Hi all, I eventually got things going smoothly, via a combination of a
kernel upgrade, moving from Debian Squeeze to Wheezy, updating to the
latest LMS, acquiring an ARM-specific ffmpeg and a bit of help and
encouragement from mrw.

Clincher for me was knocking out a startup script that was invoking a
hangover instance of squeeeboxserver; my poor Sheevaplug was actually
running two LMS instances simultaneously until I spotted the issue via
the classic 'ps -ef | grep squeezeboxserver' command.  It is quite
strange relearning old skills and using half remembered commands from 20
years ago, and I am now experiencing the heady joys of nano (hurts a lot
less than vi!), and rediscovering run levels, symbolic links and the
rcN.d directories.

I still reserve my spleen and vitriol for the BBC and the poorly handled
changeover.  

Finally, am I going to be disenfranchised from Listen Again in the near
future, using my combination of LMS, Triode's plug-in and bpa's plug-in?
I can't work out if I am now future-proofed, or if some further arcane
machination of the BBC's that you all understand but I don't is going to
snatch Listen Again away from me...

Mike



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: BBCiPlayer Plugin (UK only)

2015-02-15 Thread ChaoticMike

bpa wrote: 
 Any experimentalists ?
 
 If you assume the HLS stream is always going to be AAC. Then adding the
 following to PlayHLS custom-convert.conf file will avoid LMS doing the
 transcoding if player can play AAC natively.
 
  
Code:

  
   hls aac * *
   # RB:{BITRATE=-B %B}T:{START=-ss %s}
   [ffmpeg] -loglevel quiet  -i $FILE$ -acodec copy -f s16le -
   

  

Hi BPA, tried this, doesn't work for me.  Does it still depend on ffmpeg
being installed, and working correctly?  I ask because (a) there is a
reference to ffmpeg in there, and (b) I am pretty sure that my
installation of ffmpeg is broke.  If I run it from a Telnet session
interactively, I get the helpful message 'incorrect instruction'.  I
copied the version that was posted earlier in the thread, but thinking
back that might have been compiled for a different platform.

And now I can't get any ffmpeg for Debian on Marvel/Arm.   apt-get tells
me the most up to date version is already installed, which I don't think
it is because I deleted the version copied in from the version
referenced earlier in the thread.

All this activity happening up and down the country because the BBC
botched their 'plan'.  Grrr.  etc.

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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: BBCiPlayer Plugin (UK only)

2015-02-15 Thread ChaoticMike

castalla wrote: 
 You need a distro specific ffmpeg - and a later version to boot.

But how?  This is where it falls apart for me!  I successfully removed
the faulty ffmpeg (apt-get remove ffmpeg...D'oh!) and reinstalled,
again using apt-get.  I have SVN-r0.5.10-4:0.5.10-1, compiled in 2013.
This at least runs interactively (at least, it doesn't crash and burn
when I run it via TelNet... that's how I got the version) but are there
other places I should look for a repository with a more up to date
compilation?  How is an innocent bystander supposed to know? 

Anyway, I think I now have a distro specific image; the Joggler (running
SqueezeOS) is now giving the message 'Unable to play file type for:
Radio 2 HD (Radio 2 HD is the name I have associated with the favourite
I have set up).

The irritation is that I am getting tantalisingly close, but not
successful.

To recap, for anyone out there, this particular configuration is a
Debian-based LMS running on Squeezeplug, itself running on ARM-based
Sheevaplug hardware; playback is on a Joggler running a recent
SqueezeOS.

Waah.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: BBCiPlayer Plugin (UK only)

2015-02-14 Thread ChaoticMike

Firstly, I am amazed by the support and helpfulness of this community. 
It shows me two things:
1. There are genuinely selfless helpful people in the world
2.  Things are tricky when you move away from the world of the
appliance, e.g. the dedicated FM radio set!

My set up is probably not a whole lot different to many others here,
-viz:-
* a local LMS running on an ARM-based Sheezaplug, with the Squeezeplug
image running on it. This is based on a Debian fork of Linux
* a couple of Duet receivers
* a Joggler running SqueezeOS, also, I think, Debian under the bonnet

I have tried to follow the bpa/triode instructions to install the helper
plugin and ffmpeg, but things aren't working for me.  I feel the
problems mainly lie in knowing exactly where to stash things like
ffmpeg, and whether or not I have done enough to enable it. Bear in mind
I'm not clueless, but at the same time I'm no expert, particularly at
Linux, and I really don't *want* to be, although I'm picking stuff up as
I go along.

I used 'apt-get install ffmpeg' to get a binary downloaded, it appears
to be quite a small file but regardless, I don't know where to put it so
that the plugin works, nor do I know if it needs a chmod or similar to
make it work from the context of the LMS process.  I had a good old
tootle around the Internet... Nowhere could I find where a Squeezeplug
installation stashes its executables.

I have the bpa plugin installed (I think).  It *looks* like I do when
examining the LMS web interface.

I suppose what I am asking for is a simple list of places to go to put
things. If there were also a handy guide to tell me where I could go to
look at logs or similar to see if the various components are
'registered' (or whatever the Linux equivalent is), that would be dead
helpful.

I am now going to bed, and hoping that someone will have mercy on me and
have an idiot's guide, possibly with a Sticky, by the morning!

Best regard,

Mike



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: BBCiPlayer Plugin (UK only)

2015-02-14 Thread ChaoticMike

Hi Castalla,

The Shivaplug is set to run from internal memory, i.e. when I installed
(it was a few years ago now!) I had to go through a bunch of voodoo
magic involving a bootloader, Telnet sessions from a direct attached PC,
and lots of other stuff that I didn't really want to understand!

The Shivaplug is man enough to run a transcoded in the fly that converts
WMA ( I have a lot of those) into a format that my Joggler can handle.
(it might be called WMAPlayer)  That was a different world of pain that
once again the community helped me through!  I am hoping that if it can
do that, it can also handle the transcoding of BBC streams that I have
yet to get right...  You wouldn't know anything about chmods and
relevant file locations, would you...?!

Off to bed...

Mike



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: BBCiPlayer Plugin (UK only)

2011-09-07 Thread ChaoticMike

bpa;655991 Wrote: 
 By network problem - I meant somewhere between your router and the BBC.
 
 However since you are not using a Touch or Radio - AAC will be
 transcoded into Flac which needs about 750kbps.
 
 Use the SBS Network test to determine max throughput between receiver
 and SBS.  You may be getting bursts of interference (e.g. DECT phone,
 noisy fluorescent lamp, microwave) rather than constant degradation.

It seems to be stable at 1000kbs.  It doesn't go any higher, but I
don't suppose it needs to!

Mike


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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: BBCiPlayer Plugin (UK only)

2011-09-06 Thread ChaoticMike

But strangely, if I connect to MySB.com and use the BBC feed there,
everything is OK.  I just tested it this morning (06/09/2011, 08:00
BST) and the dropout problem remains when using the plugin.

Very PO'd with all things Squeezebox at the moment.  I just installed a
SheevaPlug with a local Squeezeserver to get around the stupidity and
lack of customer assistance I have experienced  from a combination of
MP3Tunes.com and Logitech, and now the BBC plugin starts to fail.

I realise this isn't Triode's fault, and I apologise for the rant, but
I work in technology for the world's largest IT company and I don't see
things getting any better there, either!  If I hadn't sold all my CDs
after  ripping them to disk I would be seriously considering going back
to a traditional HiFi plus an FM radio...

Aarrgh.

Mike


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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: BBCiPlayer Plugin (UK only)

2011-09-06 Thread ChaoticMike

bpa;655827 Wrote: 
 To help others, you should states which feeds and player you are using
 so that problems can be correlated.
 
 In the UK you have 3 choices.
 1. WMA - normally played from mysb.com - only choice for non
 Radio/Touch player on mysb.com.
 2. Live /AAC (aka http/AAC)  
 3. Flash / AAC - played using BBCiPlayer plugin
 
 When you have a BBC problem try also to check by using BBC web page
 player which normally uses Flash/AAC.
 
 There is a further complication between UK and non UK streams as IIRC
 UK users using mysb.com will get a non UK stream !
 
 If you are in the UK and play a WMA stream thro SBS - it will play at
 128kbps.  If you use mysb.com I think you will get the 48kb/sec stream.

Thanks for your interest.  At the risk of my sounding stupid, how do I
find out the information you're asking for?

My topology is a local SBS (v7.6.1) running on a SheevaPlug,
communicating with a pair of Duet receivers.  Currently for test
purposes I'm using:

* either the iPlayer plugin from Triode when I connect using my local
SBS
* or a 'different' link on my Duet controller when I connect to
mysb.com.  

There is nothing obvious in terms of a URL that i can quote back being
displayed on the GUI of the Duet controller, or Squeezepad on my iPad,
or mysb.com on a Windows laptop (whoever said you could have too many
devices in your life?) when using either of these modes of access.

I think my local network is OK.  I get dropouts on either Duet
receiver.  One has a fairly poor wireless signal, but the other is in
the same room as the router and gets about 78% signal strength (I'm
surprised it isn't more, but that's irrelevant, I think).

I am very happy to report useful information but I need to know how to
locate it!  This is in no way a snipe at anybody.

Thanks for your interest.

Mike


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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: BBCiPlayer Plugin (UK only)

2011-09-06 Thread ChaoticMike

Thanks for that.

The iPlayer plugin operating from my local SBS
format:  AAC
Bitrate: no rate listed
url 
http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio/listen/live/r4_aaclca?pls?livetxt=pubsub.livetext.radio4

If I go through mysb.com, the information is
format: Windows Media
Bitrate 48kbps CBR
url http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio/listen/live/r4.asx

Currently, the iPlayer plugin seems to have settled down.  Go figure.

Thanks for your assistance so far.

Mike


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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: BBCiPlayer Plugin (UK only)

2011-09-06 Thread ChaoticMike

My suspicion is that it is a BBC source issue, because when I stream
music down from the local SBS, I think the local bandwidth used is a
lot more than 128kbps, but the system performs flawlessly.  How do you
find out the bandwidth between the SBS and a receiver?  I know the
track's sample rate - does it just use that?

Cheers,

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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] AlienBBC continual rebuffering

2009-02-20 Thread ChaoticMike

Upgrading didn't work.  Instead, I installed the iPlayer plugin, which
works beautifully.  Thanks for your help, though.

Mike


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[SlimDevices: Plugins] AlienBBC continual rebuffering

2009-02-16 Thread ChaoticMike

Hello everybody.  I'll bet I'm not the first person to have this
problem, but I couldn't find anything obvious about it, so here
goes...

I use SqueezeCenter 7.3.2 on Ubuntu 8.0.4 (both kept patched
automatically), with 1 controller and two receivers.

Ever since I upgraded to 7.3 (which I think is when the new 'improved'
approach to Alien BBC was introduced) my BBC service has been awful. 
The characteristics are continual silences and the message
'buffering... ' on the controller, and occasionally a garbled effect a
bit like a faulty CD.

This is not good.

Does anybody out there have any idea what's going on?  I'm reasonably
computer literate but don't go in for vast perl scripts or Linux
command shell extravaganzas, although at least I understand the need
for their existence!  Therefore, I can probably follow instructions
competently...

Over to the great and the good... All help gratefully received.

Regards,

Mike


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