Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Dynamic Playlists 3 - get help with your custom playlists
AF1 wrote: > As you may have read '*here*' > (https://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?115073-Announce-Dynamic-Playlists-3-(mod)&p=1061778&viewfull=1#post1061778), > '*here*' > (https://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?115501-Dynamic-Playlists-3-get-help-with-your-custom-playlists&p=1061779&viewfull=1#post1061779), > '*here*' > (https://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?115501-Dynamic-Playlists-3-get-help-with-your-custom-playlists&p=1039453&viewfull=1#post1039453) > or in the FAQ: the correct file extension for dynamic playlists is > simply "*.sql*", i.e. -*filename.sql*- > Starting with 3.6.10 this is the only file extension that's parsed. So > if you still have files with the legacy file extension ".sql.xml", do a > simple search/replace to delete the ".xml" part of the file extension. > Should look like this: "filename.sql" I think it's quite obvious that I haven't! If I had, I wouldn't be writing here. In fact I've been listening to music on my amazing Squeezebox systems whilst sadly reading about aggression, anger and hate throughout this world. My Squeezebox systems have performed almost faultlessly for years and I update plugins semi-automatically and usually without issue. I apologize for being a nuisance but, one day, you too, may come to realise that there's more to life than constantly tweaking "under the bonnet" and reading technical FAQs. However, I have one more question. What about playlists ending *.sql.values.xml ? Thank you ChipMonk's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=40072 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=115501 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Dynamic Playlists 3 - get help with your custom playlists
They are all *.sql.xml Created years ago for Erlands plugins, and added to via "cloning", but seamlessly integrated into DPL3 until very recently. The fact that this problem has been replicated on two pCP LMS servers and one Ubuntu LMS and shown to be immediately after the latest DPL3 plugin update, suggests the problem is with the plugin ChipMonk's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=40072 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=115501 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Dynamic Playlists 3 - get help with your custom playlists
ChipMonk wrote: > > > I've just checked and this "glitch" does not appear to have occurred on > my pCP backup server - greatly relieved! > > > Thanks When I wrote the above I hadn't checked that there was a DPL3 plugin update. On updating, all my favourites again stopped functioning. On each of my LMS set-ups (Ubuntu and pCP) I had moved my sql playlists into the DPL-custom-lists and they had worked just fine - until today. So something has clearly changed such that the plugin will only accept these playlists in the "root" Playlists folder. I'm not looking forward to having to make all these changes in several more LMS setups I have for myself and family members. ChipMonk's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=40072 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=115501 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Dynamic Playlists 3 - get help with your custom playlists
OK I've sorted it. All my playlists were in a DPL-custom-lists folder. I'm sure this must have been specified in the move to DPL3. For reasons unknown, they were no longer being "discovered". I copied them all over to the base Playlists folder and then went through all the enabling and making DPL favourites then LMS favourites. A bit of a nuisance. All appears to be working again. I've just checked and this "glitch" does not appear to have occurred on my pCP backup server - greatly relieved! I'd still like to know whether or not the glitch was at my end or some change in DPL3 Thanks ChipMonk's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=40072 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=115501 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Dynamic Playlists 3 - get help with your custom playlists
I am a very long term user of Squeezebox. I continue to use playlists using my own on-board flac collection. I had no problems moving over to DL3 but suddenly most of my Favourites are not working This one works: dynamicplaylist://sqlplaylist_randomRock Those of this type no longer work: dynamicplaylist://dplusercustom_HarryNilssonMix I have not been tinkering in this area for a long time so can only think that I've missed something with plugin updates. I have a lot on my plate in other areas right now and just want my music to help me relax and not to add to problems. If anyone can shed light on what may have changed and what is the easiest way to get back my favourites I would be most grateful. I suspect some folder changes but I can no longer remember where all this stuff is (Ubuntu 20.4 server LMS latest 8.3 Thanks ChipMonk's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=40072 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=115501 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: LMS Controls - Google Home / Google Assistant Voice Control of LMS Players
Paul Webster wrote: > This thread is about Google Home integration - not Amazon Alexa. > > If you do want Alexa then search this forum and you will find at least 3 > solutions that are supported by 3rd-party developers. My mistake Paul. I should have said Alexa and/or Google. My Home Assistant implementation is quite recent and I'm still trying to figure out if this offers an easier/more secure/more robust/more cost effective option for voice control, or not. I have Amazon Prime and a couple of Echos but also lots of Google Android devices so all options open. ChipMonk's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=40072 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=109273 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: LMS Controls - Google Home / Google Assistant Voice Control of LMS Players
Has anyone made any further progress here? I have Touch and RasPi pCorePlayers throughout my home and now got RasPi Home Assistant up and running. I would like to have Alexa voice control of my LMS over and above basic on/off volume up/down i.e. selection and playing of favourites, music folders and/or specific song tracks from my collection. I'd pay for Nabu Casa HA icloud integration if that would do it but I haven't found much evidence of this to date. Having had fingers burnt in the past, I'm reluctant to open up ports on my router and I'm getting a bit old to set up all the LMS Controls from first principles, hence my interest in Nabu Casa. If anyone else shares these goals and has made any progress I would very much welcome tips and suggestions Thanks in advance Chip ChipMonk's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=40072 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=109273 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] [Announce] Radio Paradise Lossless Streaming (Plugin v2)
d6jg wrote: > +1 to the Jazz channel but I dont think it will happen How about: Linn Jazz http://opml.radiotime.com/Tune.ashx?id=s122120&formats=aac,ogg,mp3,wmpro,wma,wmvoice&partnerId=16&serial=1c6430cc01b27dbd2ef967997fc0c0ae ChipMonk's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=40072 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=108189 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiplayer play it again list shows 404
Whilst, quick rightly, we're all very appreciative of the sterling efforts of bpa and mrw to keep the BBC Player working so brilliantly, let's not forget that it was Triode who first set this up, along with lots of other Squeezebox tweaks and innovations. His presence in these fora is greatly missed - who knows what other innovations may have come our way? Does anyone know what became of Triode, why he is no longer able to participate in the Squeezebox Project? I have no desire to pry into any private problems but, like many in this forum, I have a genuine interest in what became of the person who provided so much for this community. If you ever monitor these pages Triode - thanks again for everything - I use your innovations almost every day of my life. Chip ChipMonk's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=40072 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=109446 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiplayer play it again list shows 404
bpa wrote: > IIRC but need to double check, they are permanent even if plugin is > reinstalled/updated as new URL is saved. The default URL is shown so > that users can easily reset the menu back to "as shipped" in case a > manual edit of menu.opml goes wrong. Excellent. Thanks Chip ChipMonk's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=40072 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=109446 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiplayer play it again list shows 404
bpa wrote: > For the less adventurous who want 30 days availabiliy of "Listen again", > you can test 15 day and 30 day option from BBCiPlayer plugin settings > by changing opml file as I have uploaded to 2 more menu opml file > variants. > > Perfect - 30 day option just in time for me going away for 3 weeks! Using this "less adventurous " option, are these settings permanent? I see that the menu automatically reverts to "default opml" - I'm not sure how long the 30 day option will stay in place. Does one need to manually refresh this regularly? Ever in your debt Chip ChipMonk's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=40072 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=109446 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiplayer play it again list shows 404
Fantastic bpa, you're a star! Many thanks again. Chip ChipMonk's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=40072 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=109446 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiplayer play it again list shows 404
slartibartfast wrote: > I would just wait for bpa to update the plugin. Then we are all singing > from the same hymn sheet when it comes to reporting issues. > > Sent from my SM-G900F using Tapatalk Strongly seconded. ChipMonk's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=40072 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=109446 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiplayer play it again list shows 404
As usual we are now in danger of asking you to gild the lily when, just a few hours ago, we had nowt. bpa you do what best fits in with your timetable and priorities, and not set in motion countless tweaks, complexities and "nice to haves" which will put ever more pressure on you in the future. Thanks again. ChipMonk's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=40072 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=109446 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiplayer play it again list shows 404
mrw and bpa - you guys are brilliant. One never gets anything like the same support or rapid response from vendors or suppliers, even when it's their own screw-up. My good old Squeezebox system, ever growing in both size and complexity, continues to outperform anything else on the market and take, in it's stride, all that the BBC et al throw at it. And all because of the sterling efforts of you folks. I am very, very grateful to you all. Chip ChipMonk's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=40072 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=109446 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiplayer play it again list shows 404
mrw wrote: > And here's my revised menu.opml, in full, for normal people who don't do > patches. I'm not sure if this is in sync with the current version of the > plugin, though, but it might help some. Many thanks mrw - yep it works here too, albeit without the artwork. But I'm catching up again. Great Work Chip ChipMonk's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=40072 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=109446 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] SrvrPowerCtrl on piCorePlayer
slartibartfast wrote: > Have a look at post 134 in this thread. Seems to be a similar problem. > > http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=107656 > > Thanks for that - now that looks promising! Can't try it right now but will have a look at this over the weekend. Many thanks for your assistance - I'll add this tip to my Hitchhikers Guide to the SB Universe! ChipMonk's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=40072 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=107985 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] SrvrPowerCtrl on piCorePlayer
Roland0 wrote: > > Instead: > > Download 'the plugin as a zip' > (https://github.com/gharris999/SrvrPowerCtrl/archive/master.zip) > Unzip it to your LMS's plugin directory (see > WebUI>Settings>Information for exact loacation) > Restart > Sadly, for this particular plugin, it's not as simple as that. If it were I wouldn't be making this request. After a couple of server restarts the files simply disappear. I did once find a way around this by editing a few configuration files and/or running a few .sh files in the scripts folder, but I worked it out, a considerable time ago, by a fairly random process of trial and error and not properly documented. I've obviously missed something this time. I must be getting old, and/or something vital is missing in the pCP cut-down Linux. The button is a neat idea but I really want something that fully integrates into all connected SB player/controller interfaces. I'm amazed that there isn't a very basic plugin that simply facilitates Squeezebox server restart and/or full server reboot from controllers, apps and players but, to my knowledge, SrvrPowerCtrl is the only one to do this. ChipMonk's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=40072 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=107985 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] SrvrPowerCtrl on piCorePlayer
slartibartfast wrote: > Do you think it is worth the effort to install it on a Pi? The power > consumption is so low most leave them running 24/7. > > Yes I do - not for powering off, saving the planet or the many other things it can do, but for a very neat way of rebooting the server or LMS if there is a plugin or playlist update which I want to check out quickly. I can get to SrvrPowerCtrl via any of my controller, smartphone, tablet apps instantly whereas the pCP web interface or SSH reboot is far more tedious. ChipMonk's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=40072 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=107985 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
[SlimDevices: Plugins] SrvrPowerCtrl on piCorePlayer
I have always found the gharris SrvrPowerCtrl plugin to be extremely useful. However, it no longer appears as an option on the main plugin screens and my attempts to link to various repositories has not led to success at automatic installation. I have, in the past, managed to install it manually, by painstaking trial and error, on a few LMS installations but my latest attempts to get it on a new piCorePlayer installation on a Raspberry Pi3 have been unsuccessful, often leading to a complete snarl-up of LMS. Fortunately, SAMBA shares now allow a retrieval of the situation by facilitating the deletion offending files. However, I see that SrvrPowerCtrl now appears as a forked link to the Ralph Irving github repository. Is it possible to summon an automatic install from there? Adding the following: h**ps://github.com/ralph-irving/SrvrPowerCtrl/blob/master/install.xml to the LMS plugin repository list gets me nowhere - not too surprisingly! If anyone can help with this I'd be most grateful. piCorePlayer has developed so well in recent years that it is now the basis of many of my Squeezebox Players, as well as my back-up and Roaming Squeezebox servers. It would really be good to get SrvrPowerCtrl back on to all the servers again. Many thanks to the pCP team for their excellent work and, in advance, for any help in resolving this. Chip ChipMonk's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=40072 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=107985 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer with DASH support - test version
bpa wrote: > I think we're ahead of the curve and ready for change but BBC haven't > finalised their end yet. And many thanks to you bpa and other contributors for helping to put us in that happy state. One year ago, we were in a complete and incomprehensible mess - now the BBC on my Raspberry Pi based Squeezebox system sounds better and is more versatile than ever. ChipMonk's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=40072 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=104672 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: ShairTunes2 plugin - Airtunes on your LMS
First of all a big thanks to disaster123 for enabling me to add this extra functionality to my squeezebox system - it's a wonderful enhancement. I was wondering does anyone have a solution to the "airplay to synchronised players" problem? I have miscellaneous players throughout my house and the main two are almost permanently synchronised. I am therefore almost always caught out when I wish to play something quickly from my iPad via AirPlay and it doesn't work. It's a rather minor problem but it would be nice if there was a solution to it. Apologies if this is covered elswhere but I haven't spotted a remedy. Thanks again ChipMonk's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=40072 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=103783 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer with DASH support - test version
bpa wrote: > Nothing has changed in the plugin in relation to icon delivery or > processing except live station icons had to fetch from new URLs as the > old URLs "died" a few weeks ago and so users got no icons on live > stations. Sounds like your controller is still on the old URLs. These > are cached in the controller. Thanks for that bpa. Could you point me to where the Controller cache is located. Presumably also named cache.db - I'll be using WinSCP but not very familiar with the Controller file system. Many thanks ChipMonk's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=40072 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=104672 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBCiPlayer with DASH support - test version
Just getting on board with this latest upgrade to keep us ahead of the next BBC changes. Many thanks for doing this bpa - it's very much appreciated. Everything is playing fine on my RasPi-2 server with LMS 7.9, and with multiple Touches, Receivers and RasPi PiCorePlayers with DASH as first priority. The only thing I've noticed is that I've lost the live station BBC icons on my various Receiver Controllers. Interestingly, the Controller icons are all fine on the iPlayer "play again". Clearing cache.db makes no change. Touches or web based controllers show all icons. Not a big deal at all! Keep up the great work and, once again, many thanks ChipMonk's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=40072 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=104672 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBC Radio Podcast Problems
The deafening silence on this topic plainly indicated that I was the only one on the planet with this particular podcast problem. Time for further digging into my own system. Firstly I dug out my "Travelling RasPi SB Server" and found that the BBC podcast service worked perfectly. Forgive me Aunty for ever doubting you. Then I found that all the other SB Touch or RasPi players on my main server also played BBC Podcasts just fine - the problem only existed on my office RasPi player, where I mostly listen to these lower quality mp3 podcasts. I have to say that I have no idea how or why this particular glitch came about or indeed how to remedy in a precision way. For now I've merely stuck in a PiCorePlayer SD card and all is well. This replaces the rather more ambitious player/proxy/vpn configuration which had, until now, worked flawlessly. Perhaps time to relearn the lesson that Black & Decker multi-tools seemed a nice idea at the time, but were usually a failure. So much to learn, so little time to do it. Thanks to all for helping with your telling silence - seriously. ChipMonk's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=40072 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=104269 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
[SlimDevices: Plugins] BBC Radio Podcast Problems
I've been out of the loop recently so have no idea when this problem may have emerged but now, when I try to play BBC podcasts via the logitech podcasts app or using my own favourites selection based on the opml file generated within mysqueezebox, I get the following error: Error HTTP/1.0 400 Bad Request All the episodes appear correctly with the appropriate icons, titles and bitrate info but they won't play. Downloaded versions of the files play just fine and I have no issues with any of the radio live streams etc. I notice that the Beeb (bless 'em) have changed the addresses of these podcasts so, for example BBC Radio 4 A Point of View was: http://downloads.bbc.co.uk/podcasts/radio4/pov/rss.xml"; text="A Point of View" type="link" /> and is now http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b006qng8/episodes/downloads.rss"; text="A Point of View" type="link"/> but the results are exactly the same. Apart from a few updates to the Raspberry Pi server OS I have made no changes to my system and feel sure that the problems lie elsewhere - the BBC has form in these matters. Do any other BBC and Squeezebox fanatics recognise this problem and know how to resolve it? Thoughts and ideas would be most welcome - thanks. ChipMonk's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=40072 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=104269 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: BBCiPlayer Plugin (UK only)
Anyone else having problems with BBC HD radio feeds on ak? None of them working here this afternoon. llnw feeds OK but I don't have them set up for such easy access in favourites. ChipMonk's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=40072 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=53229 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: BBCiPlayer Plugin (UK only)
utgg wrote: > For the adventurous, I've been having a play with adding live updating > text for the all the BBC radio channels - since RadioVis only provides > text information for Radio1 and 1xtra. Wonderful - I wondered who/when this would be implemented. I've never got patching to work on my RasPi (purely through ignorance I'm sure) so thanks for posting the individual files. It all works very well. Many thanks ChipMonk's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=40072 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=53229 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: BBCiPlayer Plugin (UK only)
JohnB wrote: > Does anyone know whether Michael has incorporated the modded the Windows > faad.exe into the nightlies? The latest windows nightly, LogitechMediaServer-7.9.0-1427804757.exe, reverted to the earlier faad.exe ChipMonk's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=40072 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=53229 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: BBCiPlayer Plugin (UK only)
I'd like to add my voice of support and thanks to Triode/Adrian for his continuing work on behalf of this community with the BBC iPlayer and many other superb add-ins. Those of us who have been trying to work with, advise and understand the BBC over the last two months now have a much keener idea of the difficulties and exasperation involved in such an exercise. The strategy adopted, of keeping a low profile, making no comment on one side or the other of the arguments, but then making available to this community excellent solutions as and when possible, is most admirable. It is also the approach most likely to enable successful future progress with, and perhaps even some cooperation from, the idiosyncratic organisation we call "Auntie" - especially with further changes in the pipe-line! On behalf of myself and many grateful users, many thanks for an excellent job well done. Of course many others (bpa, bonze, utgg to name but a few) are doing vital work to help with this situation and are also much appreciated - but Triode's BBC iPlayer plugin, Squeezelite etc. are absolutely central to the Squeezebox success story. You are are much respected and appreciated. ChipMonk's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=40072 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=53229 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: BBCiPlayer Plugin (UK only)
utgg wrote: > Is it a good idea to simply publish a new fork of the alpha plugin? Call > it, say, BBCiPlayer-v1.3.1alpha3. ? I've already put that together for > myself (including updated menu.opml with local radio and some icons). > Then all anyone needs is that plus bpa's BBCiPlayerExtra v1.8 to have > full access to live HLS streams and the alternative of HLS or RTMP > listen again. I don't particularly want to tread on Triode's toes > though. BBC iPlayer 1.3.1alpha3 is indeed now available from Triode ChipMonk's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=40072 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=53229 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: BBCiPlayer Plugin (UK only)
Owen Smith wrote: > > > (And it's an iPhone app so it looks crap on the iPad anyway. I hate the > iPhone virtual keyboard this uses.) There's now a specific iPad version of the BBC Radio iPlayer - been available for the last month or so. ChipMonk's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=40072 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=53229 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: BBCiPlayer Plugin (UK only)
utgg wrote: > I couldn't resist even more fiddling with the alpha HLS plugin; I hope > you don't mind if you are watching Triode! Things just keep getting better. Many thanks to all you expert "fiddlers" ChipMonk's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=40072 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=53229 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: BBCiPlayer Plugin (UK only)
Since I started listening to the BBC HLS live streams, I frequently get halting and re-buffering and I have to resort to the lousy MP3 streams to maintain continuity. I mainly listen to BBC Radio 3 and 4 and the problems are particularly acute in the early to mid mornings. My server is a quad-core Raspberry Pi 2 and my broadband 152 mbps, so unlikely to be on the critical path. I first observed this phenomenon with the modified Triode iPlayer and PayHLS option and now with the new Triode Alpha iPlayer. I have often wondered if this is a DNS related problem, but haven't clue how to check this. Because the BBC has kept hitting us with so much crap of late, it's getting increasingly difficult to know where problems like this arise - the BBC or my network or what? We've been so delighted to be able to listen to anything again that perhaps we haven't given enough attention to the reliability of what they're feeding us! "slartibartfast" on the BBC blog has apparently not noticed this stuttering phenomenon with Radio 2 using an Odroid U3 server but I have no experience of this station with which to compare. Have any folk here experienced these problems with the live HLS streams and, if so, which channels and do they follow any discernible pattern? ChipMonk's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=40072 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=53229 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: BBCiPlayer Plugin (UK only)
majones wrote: > I think this translates into a request to Triode that there be an "On > Demand Stream Preference" that has FlashAAC as the first choice? Fair point, which I'd be more than happy to endorse. ChipMonk's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=40072 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=53229 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: BBCiPlayer Plugin (UK only)
JohnB wrote: > Please shoot me down in flames but I suggest that people who value > having R3 LA at 320kbps and who find the previous hacks are working fine > might prefer to hold off installing the new update to the plugin until > either it also provides 320kbps LA or until the existing hacks fail. > > (This is in no way a criticism as it is great that Triode has provided > the update.) No flames but don't forget that this group is successful because we all try to do our bit to test new developments. We owe it to folk like Triode to give them feedback, about success and about problems, on our different platforms and at different locations. If we just sat back and enjoyed the improvements without risk we wouldn't be where we are today. ChipMonk's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=40072 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=53229 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: BBCiPlayer Plugin (UK only)
castalla wrote: > So, I'm guessing the new plugin and the the Play HLS can't co-exist. > > What needs to be disabled to get the plugin working? I just unchecked PlayHLS - if BBC iPlayer doesn't automatically update on server restart check that you have http://triodeplugins.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/testrepo.xml in repository list ChipMonk's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=40072 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=53229 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: BBCiPlayer Plugin (UK only)
Owen Smith wrote: > Looking in the server log, as expected the Radio 3 HLS Listen Again is > 128kbps AAC. A shame, and the new plugin doesn't have a way to prefer > RTMP/Flash for Listen Again. > > Do we know why the BBC have disabled HLS Listen Again 320kbps AAC? Yep, that's the bad news. But I'm sure it'll be fixable ChipMonk's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=40072 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=53229 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: BBCiPlayer Plugin (UK only)
PasTim wrote: > I'm rather hoping someone somewhere is rather enjoying watching us flail > around getting stuff to work using an unannounced great enhancement of > no official provenance. Go on, admit it. You're really loving it too. Of course it just might be an undercover SAS Operation (Secretive Andrew Scott) - how exciting! I'm listening to Radio 3 Live, Mahler Symphony No.1 - 339kbps CBR, aac Very Nice! Triode, so good to have you back. If this is what an alpha sounds like, I'm really looking forward to the Real McCoy. ChipMonk's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=40072 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=53229 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: BBCiPlayer Plugin (UK only)
Owen Smith wrote: > I've just halted and restarted LMS but no new iPlayer plugin. What makes > you think there's an update? After all this time I think Triode might > post here about the update. Because on my RasPi2 , after a message and a reboot I have "iPlayer (v1.3.1 alpha1). Not had much time to test it. Live streams seem OK but not Listen Again. This may require PlayHLS removal. Unfortunately I don't have much time to fiddle with it tonight ChipMonk's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=40072 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=53229 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: BBCiPlayer Plugin (UK only)
New iPlayer plugin - we missed you. Great to have you back! ChipMonk's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=40072 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=53229 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: BBCiPlayer Plugin (UK only)
Owen Smith wrote: > That attitude dooms LMS to being run by quite a small number of people. And that is the reality of the situation and always will be. That's why Logitech dumped it, that's why we're a disregarded blip on the BBC's radar. We're a small group of techies, to a greater or smaller degree, who combine interests in music, HiFi, and IT. We are not representative of the big wide world but we know what we want in our homes/offices/dens and we've found a way to achieve it. Some of us, you Owen, myself and others, have taken it upon ourselves to preach the gospel to friends, colleagues and family who are completely NON-techie. We helped them get started knowing the difficulties and we've taken it upon ourselves to continue helping them as best we can. The BBC has just made that job a helluva lot harder and, as you may have noticed, I have been quite outspoken about that. But you have to face up to the fact that we are a minority "sect" with some dedicated volunteers who have made Squeezebox into a much better media streaming system than it ever was under Logitech, and the only system weathering the current storm with any aplomb. So you have to decide - do you continue with your unofficial obligations to your colleagues with a system that works, albeit with regular tweaking to cope with a changing world, or advise them to shift towell what exactly? Do you see any alternatives around at the moment that will give them what they're now accustomed to and they will involve you with less hassle or expense?? Because your non-techie pals are more "normal" than us, they probably already have lots of iThingies. And that's your solution. ChipMonk's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=40072 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=53229 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: BBCiPlayer Plugin (UK only)
bpa wrote: > Updating a plugin is not just a simple job of merge patches I've been a bit distracted for the last few days - just got back to basics and implemented your latest HLS tweaks. Great stuff - all your efforts are very much appreciated. Squeezebox will always come out on top whilst there are willing experts like yourself to help "hangers-on" like me. Once again, many thanks ChipMonk's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=40072 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=53229 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: BBCiPlayer Plugin (UK only)
majones wrote: > I missed that too! What are the changes required to then iPlayer.pm > file? attached is what castalla sent me (remove .txt). I didn't even look to see what was different but when I replaced mine with this in BBCiPlayer plugin folder it all started to work. Hope it does for you too. +---+ |Filename: iPlayer.pm.txt | |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=17580| +---+ ChipMonk's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=40072 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=53229 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: BBCiPlayer Plugin (UK only)
StephenC wrote: > I read through the most recent comments, and can't see any > 'campaigning'. Have I missed something? I'm afraid that I had the audacity to suggest (post 317) "rather than contacting our MPs, I suggest we focus on Javid and Vaizey at Westminster, the BBC Trust and top management and the daily press". I know I'm a bad fellow but I have spent the best part of a month trying to have an intelligent dialogue and talk reason into all levels of BBC management. Their arrogance and stubborn ignorance has simply astonished me. We have nowhere else to go now - very sad. ChipMonk's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=40072 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=53229 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: BBCiPlayer Plugin (UK only)
castalla wrote: > Allegedly, there are possibly other non-public entities seemingly > involved It is the BBC's responsibility to honour its charter and agreements to provide a public service and that must include anything which it chooses to contract out. I assure you that the BBC's pay structure will fully incorporate these "additional outside responsibilities" when it come to remuneration of those concerned. So, (to coin a phrase), I think it not unreasonable that they should also be held accountable - but of course it rarely works like that. ChipMonk's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=40072 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=53229 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: BBCiPlayer Plugin (UK only)
Many thanks to you all, especially castalla, for helping me with this. Somewhere in the heat and anger and confusion of last night I completely missed the reference to changes to the iPlayer.pm file. Your file sorted me out on that - cheers castalla. If only the BBC had been 1% as helpful and cooperative as this community! The difference is that we now pay these jokers millions for their "services" and you guys do it for free. There has to be a moral there as all our public services demand for ever more cash. ChipMonk's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=40072 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=53229 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: BBCiPlayer Plugin (UK only)
expectingtofly wrote: > A couple of things to check : > > > > - You need to restart LMS after making the change - The plugin caches a station's programme list for a short while, so > if you loaded a station's list before making the change, the chances > are that the old (not working list) is still there. Try looking at > Radio 1 xtra :-) > > > Yes I'd done all that. I've now moved from my original, rather complex avconv + hlsplay.pl workaround to using your ffmpeg on my main RasPi 2 LMS system and it's all working fine - for live HLS that is. I continue to get "problem: can't open file for:" when I try any of the LA feeds. I get the index of programs OK but they won't play. I'm stuck! ChipMonk's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=40072 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=53229 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: BBCiPlayer Plugin (UK only)
Well, for the first time in this sorry business I'm stumped. Tried to get Listen Again back using expectingtofly's BBCXMLParser.pm modifications for RTMS then HLS streams but no joy. I'm using the HLS plugin with avconv and the playhls.pl modification to kill multiple copies - can that be the cause? I've probably missed something simple because my brain is still in a turmoil with blind fury at how Scott and his lot have been treating us. HLS is working for live streams, albeit re-buffering every few minutes, but LA seems to try to start with aac but then reverts to wma and grinds to a halt. ChipMonk's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=40072 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=53229 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: BBCiPlayer Plugin (UK only)
mick_w wrote: > Listen Again has stopped working this evening. Have they pulled the > plug? > > The HLS live streams are OK. Same here - LMS latest nightly on Raspberry Pi 2 with HLS plugin. Live streaming OK, all Listen Again streams now dead. I think that my rage is now getting the better of my immense sadness at this wanton, ignorant and arrogant vandalism. Unless the cavalry (AKA Triode) rides in to salvage the day in the nick of time, the BBC will have made this once devoted listener into a vociferous enemy for life. ChipMonk's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=40072 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=53229 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: BBCiPlayer Plugin (UK only)
gasteropod wrote: > Re Triode, hope he is ok. We all do but if, over the last month or so, he's been trying to work with these bright sparks at the BBC, it wouldn't be surprising if he's had a nervous breakdown! ChipMonk's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=40072 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=53229 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: PlayHLS Plugin - plugin to play Apple HLS m3u8 stream
PasTim wrote: > Does anyone know if these streams are being stopped now or not? A number of us have been hammering away at the BBC, both through the BBC Blog and direct contact with Andrew Scott and his gang, for weeks now. Throughout, they have steadfastly refused to answer straight questions about all this by using obfuscation, ambiguous double-speak or just avoiding the issue. Their attitude is beyond belief! Although I am sure that the squeezebox community will find a way around all these problems, I believe we owe it to countless, less technically able folk who, for no fault of their own, are completely at sea with all this, and probably thinking "silly me what have I done wrong?". Someone at the BBC should be held accountable for wasting the time, money and energy of many, many licence payers, not to mention folk worldwide for whom the BBC is supposed to represent the best of this country. I urge everyone to keep the pressure on at the highest possible level - all email addresses of senior BBC staff available through Google. ChipMonk's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=40072 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=103158 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: BBCiPlayer Plugin (UK only)
d6jg wrote: > What does that mean? I'm hoping it means we'll get the UK only sport back. Like I said earlier - it's hard work dealing with these guys!! ChipMonk's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=40072 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=53229 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: BBCiPlayer Plugin (UK only)
and hopefully movement on the Radio 5 Sport issue "Designed and are currently evaluating a proposed solution for the UK Only streams which carry sport and other rights restricted content. These would be the same technical specification as the current 128kbps MP3 Shoutcast streams, which we can see from our stats are now being received by many of the devices which were previously receiving WMA streams. This actually includes redesigning the geoblocking solution so that we can reduce the very high error count which contributed to us deciding to use the international version of these streams in the first place. This solution will cost more to build in the first place but should reduce the longer term cost of delivering the steams so if we do this it will give us a solution for longer than a few months." (quote from Andrew Scott General Manager of Product, Radio) ChipMonk's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=40072 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=53229 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: BBCiPlayer Plugin (UK only)
d6jg wrote: > ChipMonk. Well done. Shall await Jimbo's update with interest. I'm hoping it'll come from much higher than that ChipMonk's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=40072 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=53229 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: BBCiPlayer Plugin (UK only)
Over the last 24 hours I've managed to establish a real dialogue with the top BBC Radio management. It really is hard work trying to get them to spell out, in plain English, just what is going to happen and the impact it'll have. But some progress has been made and I'm optimistic that we'll get something out of them fairly soon (in BBC time scale!!) . I won't pre-empt that outcome since it has to come from, and be owned by, them. If it's what I hope, things won't be too bad for the Squeezebox community but some folk will be hurting. Sorry to sound so "political" but that's the sphere where this is going to be sorted. In the meantime, keep the pressure on them - it makes a difference. Fingers crossed. ChipMonk's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=40072 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=53229 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: BBCiPlayer Plugin (UK only)
d6jg wrote: > > I have complained to the BBC but the thrust of the complaint is not that > they have done what they have but instead they did it without notice and > without adequate consultation with manufacturers. I might have a > slightly different view if I owned a Sonos. I didn't disagree at all with your statement "we're the lucky ones". This is a marvellous community that sorts out everything thrown at it. But I do worry that too many are focussing on the technical challenge (very important) but not doing their bit to raise this issue in more public and political spheres. The email addresses of BBC directors, trustees, local MPs are all in Google. The more people who bang the drum, the more our "Public Service" will be forced to act like one! ChipMonk's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=40072 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=53229 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: BBCiPlayer Plugin (UK only)
d6jg wrote: > The inference is that it isn't but I agree it's not clear! If you look at what these guys have been up to over the last six months, I'd treat every weasel word with the utmost suspicion. We're only where we are now because we're banging on about it! ChipMonk's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=40072 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=53229 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: BBCiPlayer Plugin (UK only)
d6jg wrote: > Jim's posted again > http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/internet/entries/d031b300-721a-4df5-8506-723303f2887e > Post 50 > He says Listen Again is to be in HLS. > But he pointedly did not (yet) say what the Listen Again content would be! ChipMonk's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=40072 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=53229 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: BBCiPlayer Plugin (UK only)
Owen Smith wrote: > That BBC blog post says Listen Again WMA streams end next week. Now does > that mean just WMA, or as with listen live does it actually mean the end > of the ShoutCast streams? Looking again at that September "blog" I'm coming to the depressing conclusion that it'll just be access to the various pre-existing podcast mp3 streams - lousy quality and only a fraction of the programmes transmitted over the previous week. ChipMonk's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=40072 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=53229 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: BBCiPlayer Plugin (UK only)
Paul Webster wrote: > BBC r3 now back at 320k Shoutcast stream > A tiny step back in the right direction. But it looks like they're still intent on destroying the full listen again functionality next week, restricting it to the much more limited range of programmes already available on podcast and with very low sound quality. I am heartbroken at such wanton vandalism - and they're simply going to brazen it out because the radio community doesn't have any clout these days. I'll have to think very hard whether I pay my licence next time around.. ChipMonk's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=40072 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=53229 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: BBCiPlayer Plugin (UK only)
netclift wrote: > Join us! > ' > https://www.facebook.com/groups/bbcradioforall' > (https://www.facebook.com/groups/bbcradioforall) I think a UK government ePetition would be a better idea ChipMonk's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=40072 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=53229 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: BBCiPlayer Plugin (UK only)
bpa wrote: > Yes - app is the application that is to be run. Friday was a bit of > blur and alot of things being handled in parallel so mistakes were made. > > That said - this script does NOT solve the ffmpeg / avconv not being > killed off - a new build of ffmpeg /avconv is the proper solution. Absolutely no criticism implied in my observation - I know exactly how crazy things were then! I just wanted to check if I was right - this has been, amongst many other things, a useful linux learning experience for me. ChipMonk's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=40072 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=53229 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: BBCiPlayer Plugin (UK only)
regarding playhls.sh file #!/bin/sh scriptpid=$$ apppid=/tmp/.playvlc-app.$$.pid app=cvlc your original playhls.sh has the line app=cvlc should this not be ffmpeg or avconv depending on the decoder used? I'm pretty low in the Linux feeding chain so I may have completely misunderstood this - comment appreciated. Thanks ChipMonk's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=40072 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=53229 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: BBCiPlayer Plugin (UK only)
bpa wrote: > Any experimentalists ? > > Experiment underway - all well playing thru another RasPi B IQDAC as player. I have touches, receivers as well as numerous RasPi players and/or servers. I think they all play aac natively but really can't remember! ChipMonk's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=40072 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=53229 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: BBCiPlayer Plugin (UK only)
castalla wrote: > So befuddled now what's the alternative cdn to ak? Is it ll ? I think you want llnw as in http://a.files.bbci.co.uk/media/live/manifesto/audio/simulcast/hls/uk/sbr_high/llnw/bbc_radio_fourfm.m3u8 ChipMonk's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=40072 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=53229 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: BBCiPlayer Plugin (UK only)
castalla wrote: > I'm experiencing the same dropout/buffering on a previous working pi > setup. > > Has something changed at the BBC end??? Infrequent but annoying drop-outs here too with BBC Radios 3 and 4 HD (Raspberry Pi 2 server with avconv/PlayHLS). Very difficult to know where problem lies! ChipMonk's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=40072 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=53229 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: BBCiPlayer Plugin (UK only)
bpa wrote: > > > Has the rebuild of aconv fixed the problem of processes not dying ? > > I've reproduced the problem on my Pi and it seems the only way to fix > the issue with the standard "avconv" was to use the ffmpeg_wrapper > script in the same way as the playhls.sh script. No - the rebuild of avconv did NOT solve my problem of multiple avconv instances. I've used the playhls.pl file from Parky with your original plugin but changing custom-convert.conf to to run playhls.pl, as described by Parky, and also I changed app=avconv in playhls.sh (not sure if that's appropriate or necessary but no sign of harm). Everything seems pretty good on Raspberry Pi 2 LMS with "top" showing only one instance of avconv even after lots of "channel hopping". Your plugin has made my day, thanks ChipMonk's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=40072 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=53229 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: BBCiPlayer Plugin (UK only)
I'm so pleased that, many years ago, I backed the "Squeezebox Paradigm" for my digitised media streaming. What a fantastic product and community - notwithstanding the BBC's strenuous efforts to screw things up and Logitech's "hands-off" approach! Thanks to the generous help and expertise of this community, I've got my WHS 2011 and RasPi 2 servers fully functioning with Triodes iPlayer tweaked so as to provide all streams at better quality than ever (thanks Bonze). On the Raspberry Pi system, with help from Parky, I compiled my own avconv and and used his fix to kill multiple instances of avconv which occurred after channel hopping. Thanks also to expectingtofly for providing a newer ffmpeg - I couldn't get it to work on my system, but that could be down to my ageing brain failing after too many hours spent at all this. I've even learned a bit more about Linux today. The BBC, in my opinion, comes out of this very badly. We should never had had to jump through all these unnecessary hoops. They even blocked my post containing a link from their blog to the page on this site with the "secret urls" for many hours today and only relented when I made it clear in another post what was going on. I feel real sorrow for the poor folks outside the "squeezebox community" and those with limited technical skills who were persuaded by the Beeb that digital streaming was the future and they've just been dropped in a deep hole. So, personally, a very successful day - I'm now going to leave the PC and just listen to some music, and relax. Many many thanks to all - you're doing a fantastic job. ChipMonk's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=40072 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=53229 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: BBCiPlayer Plugin (UK only)
expectingtofly wrote: > Just the binary. Placed where squeezebox can find it. With executable > permissions. /usr/bin/ is where I put it. Thanks again for the binary and this additional info. I take it from this that one doesn't need to install the old ffmpeg first before replacing it. I'll get around to testing it once I've done a bit more fiddling with my new avconv file. ChipMonk's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=40072 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=53229 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: BBCiPlayer Plugin (UK only)
Parky wrote: > > I too was not having a good time with the shell script so have lashed > together a perl one which on my RaspberryPi B is a bit more robust. > > You should put the script in the same directory as bpa's shell script > # Wait 4+ hours, you'll then have a avconf executable. Install it with: > $ sudo make install > Well my avconv compilation on a Raspberry Pi 2 took exactly 1 hour - not bad. I changed the custom-convert.conf and playhls.sh back to the bpa plugin originals, but modified for avconv. It all works fine - but still getting multiple avconv instances, damn it. So obviously I need to use your playhls.pl file. But I'm a bit confused as to where "put the script in the same directory as bpa's shell script" actually is. Should it be \var\lib\squeezeboxserver\cache\InstalledPlugins\Plugins\PlayHLS\Bin ?? While avconv was compiling I've tweaked the Triode iPlayer urls so things just keep getting better all the time - no thanks to the BBC, to whom I've also fired off a few more mortars. ChipMonk's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=40072 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=53229 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: BBCiPlayer Plugin (UK only)
Parky wrote: > Ah, yes I was taking it from notes - the current directory isn't in your > path so you should do: > > CFLAGS="-mfloat-abi=hard -mfpu=vfp" ./configure > > Good luck! Yep that did it - thanks. The clock is now ticking. It'll be interesting to see how long a new multi core RasPi 2 takes to compile it. ChipMonk's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=40072 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=53229 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: BBCiPlayer Plugin (UK only)
Parky wrote: > > > As mentioned above I decided to go down running avconv. I built the > latest one from one from http://libav.org/download.html > > I built it directly on my Raspberry Pi as I don't have cross-compiler > tools and wanted to make sure i built it with hardware floating-point. > Note though it takes 4 hours to build on a RasPi. In case anyone is > interested and has only a little Linux knowledge, but is able to login > to a shell on their RasPi, here are the set of commands to go about it: > > > Code: > > > $ cd $HOME > $ mkdir av_build > $ cd av_build > $ wget https://libav.org/releases/libav-11.2.tar.gz > $ tar xzf libav-11.2.tar.gz > $ cd libav-11.2 > $ CFLAGS="-mfloat-abi=hard -mfpu=vfp" configure > # Note the above takes a good couple of minutes to configure and it doesn't tell you anything while it is doing it. > $ make > # Wait 4+ hours, you'll then have a avconf executable. Install it with: > $ sudo make install > > > > > I'm not sure what the rules are with binaries, but if it's OK then I > could also post out the version of avconv I built (on a debian armv6 > 3.10.25+ kernel with gcc version 4.6.3). > > Thanks once again everyone. This is very useful. I rushed off to compile my own avconv using your instruction but when I get to CFLAGS="-mfloat-abi=hard -mfpu=vfp" configure I get a configure "command not found". Obviously I need something else downloaded first - any further advice? Thanks ChipMonk's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=40072 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=53229 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: BBCiPlayer Plugin (UK only)
expectingtofly wrote: > Good News! > > I've cross compiled a new version of ffmpeg. (blimey, ffmpeg is a > monster it took over an hour to compile) > > I placed this new version in /usr/bin and everything is now working > fine. > This is the version that got compiled : > > It may even be that the original plugin without the shell script wrapper > works. I'll try that next. If you, or anyone, has got a variant of ffmpeg which works properly on Raspberry Pi Debian servers I'd be most grateful if you could upload and/or post a link. I'm afraid my Linux expertise isn't up to compiling my own. I have no trouble installing ffmpeg but the current version available simply will not close, leading to multiple instances. Thanks in advance ChipMonk's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=40072 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=53229 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: BBCiPlayer Plugin (UK only)
bpa wrote: > That's for that data point. Please give distro version, LMS version and > ffmpeg version so full comparisons can be made as I think some users do > not have the problem. > > I'll boot up my old Pi B (original) and see if the problem happens. I'm afraid I have limited skills in capturing info on Linux systems, only got involved with it since I realised how Raspberry Pi's could transform Squeezebox. Raspberry Pi 2 Wheezy kernel 3.18.7-v7+ fully updated with sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade Logitech Media Server Version: 7.9.0 - 1423576925 @ Wed Feb 11 04:05:18 UTC 2015 Operating system: Debian - EN - utf8 Platform Architecture: armv7l-linux Perl Version: 5.14.2 - arm-linux-gnueabihf-thread-multi-64int Audio::Scan: 0.95 Database Version: DBD::SQLite 1.34_01 (sqlite 3.7.7.1) Not sure about ffmpeg/avconv versions , just installed with sudo apt-get install ffmpeg and sudo aapt-get install libav-tools On a WHS 2011 server all is working brilliantly with your plugin and ffmpeg. Many thanks to you and all others working away to solve "Aunty's" self-inflicted problems. ChipMonk's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=40072 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=53229 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Announce: BBCiPlayer Plugin (UK only)
bpa wrote: > I can't be certain but I think it affects single core system. . I'm getting the same multiple instances of ffmpeg or avconv on multi core Raspberry Pi 2 so I don't think it's a single core issue. I'm sure that mrw's ffmpeg_LMS_wrapper will sort it but I don't have the Linux expertise to implement this fix. Help with getting this "wrapper" working would be appreciated ChipMonk's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=40072 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=53229 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Dynamic Playlist Using File Folders
Once further question. I am sticking with Squeezebox Server 7.56 with MySQL. Since I am now running 64 bit WHS 2011, would there be any benefit linking Squeezebox Server to a 64bit stand alone instance of MySQL? The Tranquil BBS2 box is primarily used for backups and audio media streaming and MySQL would, at least right now, not be used for any application other than Squeezebox. I'm just wondering whether performance of Dynamic and SQL Playlists, scanning etc would be enhanced by moving to full blown 64bit MySQL. Chip ChipMonk's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=40072 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=95581 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Dynamic Playlist Using File Folders
erland wrote: > As far as I can see there are two solutions: > > Solution 1: > - Install Multi Library plugin. Thanks Erland - yes I thought this might be an option. I took out a license on all your plugins so could try this but wondered what extra load it might put on my server - it's much better than a NAS but does have limited fire-power! I also wondered if that might add too much complexity - my family already find most of my innovations and solutions a bit more demanding than they'd like. But so long as the options are not irreversible I can give them all a try over the next few days and then decide which to go for. Thanks for the help Chip ChipMonk's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=40072 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=95581 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Dynamic Playlist Using File Folders
garym wrote: > use mp3tag to batch copy the info in your genre tag to some other custom > tag you create. then you haven't lost that info. if you ever wanted to > go back, then use mp3tag to copy the info from your "custom tag" back to > the genre tag. (mp3tag handles FLAC, etc. too...) thanks garym - I think I have much to learn (belatedly) about the joys and complexities of tagging. I've studiously avoided it until recently because I detest programs that try to take control and manage/organise/control my stuff the way "they" want to. But your suggestion leads me to ask - if I can create custom tags for my, mainly flac files, is it not possible to tweak Dynamic Playlist to filter out against something like "myclassical" in an add-on custom tag on all my classical stuff? Thanks for the help Chip ChipMonk's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=40072 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=95581 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Dynamic Playlist Using File Folders
aubuti wrote: > You don't like Elvis with Wagner? The shows they did together at The > Apollo were the stuff of legends > > Here is one thing you could try that wouldn't require much effort. > Forget about trying to restrict Dynamic Playlists to certain folders, > and stick with inclusion/exclusion by genre, which DP is set up to do > perfectly. You don't need to fix up all your classical tags, just the > genre, and you can even do that quick and dirty. > Thanks for that idea aubuti - that may well be the route I take. I'm a little nervous of wiping what data I have in all my classical genre tags because, without fail, once I've done that I'll start thinking of all sorts of imaginative ways I could have used these lost data with this new Dynamic Playlist toy! So I'll hang on a bit and see if any other ideas emerge before making such irrevocable changes. Many thanks for your help - I'll let you know if I decide to go down this route and how I get on Chip ChipMonk's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=40072 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=95581 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
[SlimDevices: Plugins] Dynamic Playlist Using File Folders
Apologies if this has been covered elsewhere but I am unable to find a simple solution. My music collection, started long ago, was mainly classical and, because of the complexity and lack of support in those days for tagging, I have evolved a system based on folders named after composer/artist with subfolders containing individual albums. This is fine for playing individual symphonies and operas. Over recent years I have broadened my interests into many other genres where listening to random tracks is far more appropriate and interesting. So I've just purchased Erland's excellent plugin package and exploring the joys Dynamic Playlists etc. But I have been unable to find a way to specify a particular folder and sub-folders in the selection criteria. Trying to do it by genre is a nightmare because the tags on my older classical stuff are a mess and the tags are cluttered with all sorts of junk. Since tagging of classical is not an issue for me, I'm not prepared to spend vast amounts of time trying to tidy this up. However, my newer non-classical stuff is tagged much better. So, for example, all my popular music is in Music/Pop, how can I set up a dynamic playlist which selects random tracks only from the stuff in the Pop folder and ignores the other folders containing classical? The tags is the Pop/rock category are good enough to work OK via SQL for my needs but need to be partitioned from the rest. So far I've not had much luck - Elvis mixed with bleeding chunks of Wagner is not really to my taste! In every other respect the Dynamic Playlist is great but I've not been able to get it to perform exclusively across my whole Pop/Rock collection. An extra bonus is that it's preventing me from locking up my system if I inadvertently create huge playlists, which previously caused the whole system to crash (Tranquil BBS2, Intel D510MO, 4GB RAM with WHS 2011, Squeezebox Server 7.56 - also working much better since recent upgrade from WHS v1). If someone can point me towards sorting this I'd be immensely grateful Chip ChipMonk's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=40072 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=95581 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
