Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] UK: BBC HD Sound - BBCiPlayer Support
I'm still looking for some detailed results to the following three cases I posted above... 1) With native aac decode enabled (file types) and the player mp3 decode set to "direct streaming" (player setttings, audio) 2) With native aac decode enabled and the player mp3 decode set to "proxied" 3) With native aac decode disabled and the player mp3 decode set to "direct streaming" This will help me me locate the cause of the glitches with HD streams on Touch, I would be very keen to get some results which correlate with each other (i.e. from multiple users). -- Triode Triode's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=82967 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] UK: BBC HD Sound - BBCiPlayer Support
adrianh1960;602828 Wrote: > I have been having this problem too and this seems to have fixed it. > i'm interested to know however why this occurs when using AAC natively. > Any ideas? I have a Squeezebox Duet, this can't play AAC natively and always transcodes it to FLAC at the server. I've never had a problem with this. -- Owen Smith Owen Smith's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=42371 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=82967 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] UK: BBC HD Sound - BBCiPlayer Support
amcluesent;600757 Wrote: > I've had AAC transcoded to FLAC server-side for while, think I mentioned > fractional-second glitches earlier in the thread or another thread on > iPlayer. Completely solves the problem; probably <.5% of my ripped > files are AAC, so there's no issue there. I have been having this problem too and this seems to have fixed it. i'm interested to know however why this occurs when using AAC natively. Any ideas? -- adrianh1960 adrianh1960's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5421 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=82967 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] UK: BBC HD Sound - BBCiPlayer Support
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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] UK: BBC HD Sound - BBCiPlayer Support
I've had AAC transcoded to FLAC server-side for while, think I mentioned fractional-second glitches earlier in the thread or another thread on iPlayer. Completely solves the problem for Touch and TP players. Probably <.5% of my ripped files are AAC, so there's no issue there. +---+ |Filename: AAC.jpg | |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=11128| +---+ -- amcluesent amcluesent's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10286 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=82967 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] UK: BBC HD Sound - BBCiPlayer Support
Triode;599564 Wrote: > Thanks - I'd like to get some more data from people to see if we can > confirm whether native decoding or proxied streaming helps at all... Hi Triode. Your work will probably be the deciding factor to persuade me to part with some cash! However, I've not bought a Squeezebox (yet). I've been streaming R3 HD through Windows using my own app. using the Flash ocx but arranged so it runs as a tray icon (because if it is a browser window I close it by mistake.) I have suffered with odd glitches as well (just like streaming it in IE.) It's annoying because this stream has made Radio 3 into a good listen again. I've added some logging so I can see what is happening. This is mainly from the iPlayer debug output. Typical extract from a recent 2 second hole: Code: 00:06:48.989 Buffer: 3.032 00:06:54.003 Buffer: 3.015 00:06:57.708 [Player] ModelEvent: media_continuing state: media_playing 4583756 ms 00:06:59.011 Buffer: 2.891 00:07:04.014 Buffer: 2.782 00:07:07.720 [Player] ModelEvent: media_continuing state: media_playing 4593767 ms 00:07:09.022 Buffer: 2.969 00:07:14.026 Buffer: 2.985 00:07:17.730 [Player] ModelEvent: media_continuing state: media_playing 4603778 ms 00:07:19.034 Buffer: 2.828 00:07:22.541 E [Player] AbstractNetStream status event: NetStream.Buffer.Empty 4608589 ms 00:07:22.542 [Player] ModelEvent: media_update state: media_buffering 4608590 ms 00:07:24.084 [Player] AbstractNetStream status event: NetStream.Buffer.Full 4610132 ms 00:07:24.086 [Player] [AbstractModel].onPlaying() 4610134 ms 00:07:24.088 [Player] ModelEvent: media_update state: media_playing 4610135 ms 00:07:24.094 Buffer: 3.578 00:07:27.799 [Player] ModelEvent: media_continuing state: media_playing 4613847 ms 00:07:29.104 Buffer: 4.422 00:07:34.111 Buffer: 4.453 00:07:37.818 [Player] ModelEvent: media_continuing state: media_playing 4623866 ms 00:07:39.120 Buffer: 4.454 00:07:44.125 Buffer: 4.469 This one looks like it ran of of data from akamai. I've also had it stop with the buffer filling up and no error messages, and some short glitches with a few associated status messages that may be the result of some housekeeping in the action script in the BBC swf. If you would like a copy of the app for your own testing purposes, send me an email and I'll get it to you. If I find anything that might be useful I'll post it here, but at the moment I'm just a bit puzzled by it all. -- EricT EricT's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=42771 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=82967 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] UK: BBC HD Sound - BBCiPlayer Support
Triode;599564 Wrote: > Thanks - I'd like to get some more data from people to see if we can > confirm whether native decoding or proxied streaming helps at all... No glitches at all, now, and I have made no subsequent changes to settings. The Radio 3 content, as I type, is a live broadcast, and the quality of the sound is high. -- John A Squeezebox Touch Squeezebox Radio Apple TV Cambridge Audio DacMagic Rega Apollo PrimaLuna Prologue 2 Quad ESL John A's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=42501 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=82967 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] UK: BBC HD Sound - BBCiPlayer Support
Thank you, Triode. Meanwhile, Adagio & perhaps others may be interested to know of the review I mentioned, of the Touch in Stereophile: http://www.stereophile.com/content/logitech-squeezebox-touch-network-music-player -- John A Squeezebox Touch Squeezebox Radio Apple TV Cambridge Audio DacMagic Rega Apollo PrimaLuna Prologue 2 Quad ESL John A's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=42501 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=82967 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] UK: BBC HD Sound - BBCiPlayer Support
Thanks - I'd like to get some more data from people to see if we can confirm whether native decoding or proxied streaming helps at all... -- Triode Triode's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=82967 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] UK: BBC HD Sound - BBCiPlayer Support
Triode;599446 Wrote: > Please can I ask for help from Touch owners to help debug this glitch > problem. > > I am interested if you hear glitches and at what frequency on the Radio > 3 HD feed in three different case: > 1) With native aac decode enabled (file types) and the player mp3 > decode set to "direct streaming" (player setttings, audio) > 2) With native aac decode enabled and the player mp3 decode set to > "proxied" > 3) With native aac decode disabled and the player mp3 decode set to > "direct streaming" > > The first case uses rtmp and aac processed on the player, the second > case only uses the aac codec on the player, but does rtmp processing on > the server and the last case does all three on the server. > > I'd like a few aligned data points on this as I have been struggling to > identify this and have spent too long listening to Radio 3 today! Triode, Thank you. I, too, have now developed Mozart aversion therapy. I tried the settings you describe, and the glitches came back with the first trial. They remained, and remain. I tried some other changes to get rid of them, thus extending trial settings beyond 3), as follows, but no dice. Timings are given as hour.minute.second p.m. today. I won't be able to do more for some days, back to work tomorrow. Best wishes, John I am interested if you hear glitches and at what frequency on the Radio 3 HD feed in three different case: Starting point (no glitches): aac decoder disabled under file types both aac and mpeg-4. mp3 decode "Direct streaming" (default), Then: aac decoder for file type mpeg-4 set to "native". 1) With native aac decode enabled (file types) and the player mp3 decode set to "direct streaming" (player setttings, audio) Player is off restarting server with these settings SERVER ON 6.19.25 Glitches: 6.22.00 6.23.15 6.24.30 6.25.50 2) With native aac decode enabled and the player mp3 decode set to "proxied" Glitches: 6.27.10 ? 6.29.45 ? 6.35.00 6.36.15 6.37.35 3) With native aac decode disabled and the player mp3 decode set to "direct streaming" Glitches: 6.40.10 ?? 6.47.50 6.48.00 6.49.15 4) . as 3) but returning to aac disabled under both aac and mpeg-4 file formats (no glitch previously) Glitches: 6.51.55 6.53.10 6.54.28 ? 6.57.05 5) Player off, Player on, Server off, then Server on with settings as 4) Glitches: 7.05.30 7.06.45 ARGH! The glitch is back even on original glitch-free settings. 6) aac disabled on all three file types; server off and on by means of logout and login. Glitches, as above. 7) Revert completely to start settings. Restart server. Glitches, as above. As much as I hope this helps, there comes to mind the phrase "If it works, don't fix it". -- John A Squeezebox Touch Squeezebox Radio Apple TV Cambridge Audio DacMagic Rega Apollo PrimaLuna Prologue 2 Quad ESL John A's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=42501 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=82967 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] UK: BBC HD Sound - BBCiPlayer Support
John A;598901 Wrote: > I just tried BBC Radio 3 HD and pressed Play at zero time. With music > content, the drops came at > > 00'50" > 02'08" > 03'25" > > ...after that the programme switched to speech, so it was difficult to > track further drops. I'll try to sample some more, also record. Please can I ask for help from Touch owners to help debug this glitch problem. I am interested if you hear glitches and at what frequency on the Radio 3 HD feed in three different case: 1) With native aac decode enabled (file types) and the player mp3 decode set to "direct streaming" (player setttings, audio) 2) With native aac decode enabled and the player mp3 decode set to "proxied" 3) With native aac decode disabled and the player mp3 decode set to "direct streaming" The first case uses rtmp and aac processed on the player, the second case only uses the aac codec on the player, but does rtmp processing on the server and the last case does all three on the server. I'd like a few aligned data points on this as I have been struggling to identify this and have spent too long listening to Radio 3 today! -- Triode Triode's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=82967 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] UK: BBC HD Sound - BBCiPlayer Support
pjgregory;599200 Wrote: > Hi > > I have just installed the latest version of the iPlayer plug in and > found the new Radio3 HD station. On selecting the station, all I get > is the message "Extra High Quality Audio Stream" and then my > Transporter locks up. > > However I do live in Italy, so I assume the stream is being blocked > because of my ip address. Is there any way I can check this before > trying to see if other things are not working? > > PJG Yes it will be blocked outside the uk - I'm afraid you will only get the 48k international version of the standard radio 3 stream. -- Triode Triode's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=82967 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] UK: BBC HD Sound - BBCiPlayer Support
Hi I have just installed the latest version of the iPlayer plug in and found the new Radio3 HD station. On selecting the station, all I get is the message "Extra High Quality Audio Stream" and then my Transporter locks up. However I do live in Italy, so I assume the stream is being blocked because of my ip address. Is there any way I can check this before trying to see if other things are not working? PJG -- pjgregory pjgregory's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=42556 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=82967 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] UK: BBC HD Sound - BBCiPlayer Support
Triode;598842 Wrote: > > It would be useful to me if people can collect more data on this - is > it every 75 seconds, what point from the start is it? I just tried BBC Radio 3 HD and pressed Play at zero time. With music content, the drops came at 00'50" 02'08" 03'25" ...after that the programme switched to speech, so it was difficult to track further drops. I'll try to sample some more, also record. -- John A John A's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=42501 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=82967 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] UK: BBC HD Sound - BBCiPlayer Support
I believe the difference is between how the two aac decoders process the stream. For the BBCiPlayer case we can either do it on the player itself (default) or on the server (when you switch off native decode). For the BBCRadio applet the only option is to do it on the player. So I suspect the aac stream contains something which the server's aac decoder (faad) can process but the player's aac codec can't. It would be useful to me if people can collect more data on this - is it every 75 seconds, what point from the start is it? -- Triode Triode's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=82967 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] UK: BBC HD Sound - BBCiPlayer Support
How loud are these blips and glitches? My experience with SB Touch and SB Radio is the same - a fraction of a second of silence, once every 75 seconds, approximately. I am not sure it counts as a drop-out since the music seems to come back in time. I'd have to listen some more to be sure, or capture the waveform and take close look. Whatever the cause, it is a real annoyance. I wonder if the interruption could be some sort of audio watermark? amcluesent's solution works; disable native aac for aac streams under "file formats" in "advanced" in the SB server. Thanks for this! Under "Internet Radio", the option "BBC iPlayer" and "Listen Live" then give uninterrupted audio streams, including BBC Radio 3 HD. This must be your excellent the plug-in at work, Triode. The option "BBC Radio" must be the applet, not the server plug-in, since there the problem remains. I have yet to work out how to change settings on BBC Radio, but BBC iPlayer is sufficient, so problem solved. In this case, by the way, Touch and Radio are running from different servers on different computers, both giving the same problem resolved in the same way. Forgive my possibly going over old ground - this is my second post and I have not assimilated much else on this forum. However, thank you, Triode, for the plug-in and the applet, and for your generosity in making them available, together with comments and guidelines here. I noticed a news item on "experimental" Radio 3 HD in the last week of the Proms, and was sceptical, also too busy to try it. I'd tried audio streaming over the years, via e.g. Real Audio. The sound was originally atrocious, later improving to merely bad. Equally, the standard broadcast digital reception today is less than compelling, even with at the 192 kbps allocated to Radio 3. I had my heroic and venerable FM tuner repaired, but getting a decent signal required running aerial cables through the house, and even then the sound is not what it once was, to my recollection. I read that BBC FM is compressed these days, possiblyy with in-car reception in mind. Now we have Radio 3 HD, which is wholly remarkable. A 320 kbps aac rendering of a CD gives a result indistinguishable (to me) from the source LPCM at 44.1 kHz, 16 bit. So we have something deserving of the term "CD-quality" - at last. However, I think 320 kbps aac encoding of a live feed may exceed the resolution of CD, giving results comparable with high resolution audio files at, say, 24 bit, 96 kHz. I bought the SB touch to play FLAC files, with radio reception a secondary consideration. So the real test and benefit of Radio 3 HD is live broadcast, not some chap in a studio playing CDs, however up-market his player. I wonder why the BBC is being so coy about HD? I hope it is not dreaded DRM issues. We may be back in a digital equivalent of the days where a BBC FM live broadcast was about the best audio source one could get. This would be something to celebrate. Apologies for the length! -- John A John A's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=42501 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=82967 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] UK: BBC HD Sound - BBCiPlayer Support
JohnA Thanks for your response. Your instructions are quite correct. Either the menu item was not there a couple of days ago or I failed to see it. I blame old age. Your argument in favour of the Touch is persuasive. The main attraction of the Duet is that I could 'hide' the receiver in my stereo system cabinet out of sight. It's a difficult call. -- adagio1994 David - Still trying to decide between Touch and Duet adagio1994's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41885 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=82967 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] UK: BBC HD Sound - BBCiPlayer Support
Adagio, Please try: Internet Radio --> BBC iPlayer --> Listen Live --> BBC Radio 3 HD BBC Radio 3 is not HD by default. "BBC Radio 3 HD" is a separate stream. Apologies if this is obvious. As regards which Squeezebox, I had the same dilemma, and plumped for the Touch in November. I now think it was the right choice. The DAC spec decided me, plus favourable reviews in e.g. Stereophile. Now it is working, the sound quality, my chief objective, meets expectations entirely. The sound from the Touch analogue output is outstanding with 24 bit, 96 kHz or 192 kHz FLAC files e.g. from Linn. Radio 3 HD is a great asset which I did not expect. Laurels to Triode - will add these to a post on the drop-out. -- John A John A's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=42501 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=82967 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] UK: BBC HD Sound - BBCiPlayer Support
What a very quick reply, thank you. Internet Radio --> BBC iPlayer --> Listen Live --> BBC Radio 3 -- adagio1994 David - Still trying to decide between Touch and Duet adagio1994's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41885 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=82967 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] UK: BBC HD Sound - BBCiPlayer Support
adagio1994;598032 Wrote: > I am still in pre-purchase evaluation mode and listening via > Squeezeplayer Beta. Should this HD stream be available to me? > > I have installed the BBC iPlayer v 1.1.13 According to the Plugins > listing in Server Settings I should be able to "Listen to BBC iPlayer > Live and Listen Again Radio streams. Supports the highest quality AAC > or MP3 streams available from the BBC for your location." > > However,according to the More Info screen it is "Bitrate: 192kbps CBR > (converted to 705kbps FLAC)" > > I am in the UK. > > P.S. Have Flash/AAC Streams enabled. HD streams are only available for Radio 3 live and have a separate entry on the menu - you should get it if you are in the uk. Which menu item did you use to get to this point? -- Triode Triode's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=82967 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] UK: BBC HD Sound - BBCiPlayer Support
I am still in pre-purchase evaluation mode and listening via Squeezeplayer Beta. Should this HD stream be available to me? I have installed the BBC iPlayer v 1.1.13 According to the Plugins listing in Server Settings I should be able to "Listen to BBC iPlayer Live and Listen Again Radio streams. Supports the highest quality AAC or MP3 streams available from the BBC for your location." However,according to the More Info screen it is "Bitrate: 192kbps CBR (converted to 705kbps FLAC)" I am in the UK. -- adagio1994 adagio1994's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41885 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=82967 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] UK: BBC HD Sound - BBCiPlayer Support
bpa;597246 Wrote: > The SBS provided flac and faad have patches for proper SBS operation so > do not remove/replace. > > Are you using a 64 bit kernel ? If so have you installed the ia32 libs > for > 32 bit compatibility. Thanks bpa it seems the problem was along those lines. Yes Fedora12 x64. I don't have ia32_libs on my distro, but installing glibc.i686 and libstdc++.i686 seems to have fixed it so that the patched codecs can be run. All working fine now! -- anselld anselld's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11703 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=82967 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] UK: BBC HD Sound - BBCiPlayer Support
The SBS provided flac and faad have patches for proper SBS operation so do not remove/replace. Are you using a 64 bit kernel ? If so have you installed the ia32 libs for 32 bit compatibility. -- bpa bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=82967 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] UK: BBC HD Sound - BBCiPlayer Support
Hi, Still having problems on the Transporter. I discovered faad was not installed on the server so have installed and restarted. Now faad, flac and lame are all installed and the file types are all enabled, ie AAC -> AAC (Native) -> FLAC (faad/flac) -> MP3 (faad/lame) -> PCM (faad) But still getting the "Could not open file" message. (SB Radio still fine) Anything else to try? thanks -- anselld anselld's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11703 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=82967 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] UK: BBC HD Sound - BBCiPlayer Support
Triode;597118 Wrote: > Radio can decode aac natively, transporter cannot so will rely on the > server do decode via the faad helper which comes will squeezebox > server. What os are you running the server on? Is faad enabled in > settings file types? Ok. Many thanks for the pointer. Server is on Linux so probably need to install another package for faad. Will check it ot tomorrow. cheers. -- anselld anselld's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11703 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=82967 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] UK: BBC HD Sound - BBCiPlayer Support
anselld;597108 Wrote: > I have just tried this out. > It seems fine on the SB Radio but on TP I am getting "Cannot open file > for: RTMP blah blah". > They are both connected to the same SB Server so any idea what I have > done wrong? Radio can decode aac natively, transporter cannot so will rely on the server do decode via the faad helper which comes will squeezebox server. What os are you running the server on? Is faad enabled in settings file types? -- Triode Triode's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=82967 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] UK: BBC HD Sound - BBCiPlayer Support
Triode;595586 Wrote: > I've just updated the BBCiPlayer plugin and BBCRadio applet to include a > new menu item for Radio3 HD in the normal listen live menu. > I have just tried this out. It seems fine on the SB Radio but on TP I am getting "Cannot open file for: RTMP blah blah". They are both connected to the same SB Server so any idea what I have done wrong? -- anselld anselld's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11703 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=82967 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] UK: BBC HD Sound - BBCiPlayer Support
Thanks Triode - great work. All the effort the BBC made to get all their stations on the iPlayer and now they start fragmenting again! Maybe it will lower their overall bit rate output if only the cogniscenti know where to find it - or maybe they want more people to read the station's web page - who knows? -- ian_heys ian_heys's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2629 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=82967 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] UK: BBC HD Sound - BBCiPlayer Support
I've just updated the BBCiPlayer plugin and BBCRadio applet to include a new menu item for Radio3 HD in the normal listen live menu. As it looks like HD will be a separate option from the BBC web site than the standard iPlayer interface, I've kept it as a separate stream from the standard one (in case it stops working). Please note that it is only available in aac/flash at present - so if you do not have this option selected then it may not play. It is also only available in the UK. Please upgrade to the latest versions for support of this. I will remove the temporary entry from the special event menu in a day or so. -- Triode Triode's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=82967 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] UK: BBC HD Sound - BBCiPlayer Support
On Thursday 16 December 2010 20:46:50 Triode wrote: > For the moment I have added a Radio 3 HD menu item to the > Special Events menu at the bottom of the top level iPlayer > menu. It works very well, thanks. In my original message (on the UK: BBC HD Sound - BBCiPlayer Support thread) I asked about the Carol service on Christmas Eve. I see that the Telegraph said on 13 Dec "and Radio 4 will also broadcast the service of nine lessons and carols in HD on Christmas Eve. " I can find nothing further about it on the BBC site. If it does appear is there any chance of you adding a further item on the menu for it? Roger ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] UK: BBC HD Sound - BBCiPlayer Support
acanning;595232 Wrote: > Many thanks for all the hard work on this plugin. I have just discovered > it and am now enjoying the HD sound. > > Quick question, can anyone else fast forward the HD streams? I'm > thinking of the Electric Proms stuff. I don't seem to be able to > although I can with the standard listen again material. > > Thanks again.*acanning* - I think Electric Proms must be must be the same as > a live stream which is why we cannot fast forward. Regards -- DaveCheltenham DaveCheltenham's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41689 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=82967 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] UK: BBC HD Sound - BBCiPlayer Support
Many thanks for all the hard work on this plugin. I have just discovered it and am now enjoying the HD sound. Quick question, can anyone else fast forward the HD streams? I'm thinking of the Electric Proms stuff. I don't seem to be able to although I can with the standard listen again material. Thanks again. -- acanning acanning's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13303 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=82967 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] UK: BBC HD Sound - BBCiPlayer Support
And from me Triode. HD sound and your iPlayer work very well. Regards -- DaveCheltenham DaveCheltenham's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41689 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=82967 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] UK: BBC HD Sound - BBCiPlayer Support
Works fine for me. Thanks a lot for all your hard work here and with Spotify. -- hecd2 hecd2's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=42057 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=82967 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] UK: BBC HD Sound - BBCiPlayer Support
I'm afraid I don't know quite what the BBC planning for the HD feed - its details have dissapeared from the main iplayer metadata. For the moment I have added a Radio 3 HD menu item to the Special Events menu at the bottom of the top level iPlayer menu. This should work with existing versions of the BBCiPlayer plugin and BBC Radio applet and allow you to get to the 320k stream. Please let me know if this does not work for you. -- Triode Triode's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=82967 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] UK: BBC HD Sound - BBCiPlayer Support
Thank you, that's great news :) -- JohnB JohnB's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=31553 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=82967 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] UK: BBC HD Sound - BBCiPlayer Support
JohnB;594819 Wrote: > There was an announcement by the BBC that Radio 3 HD Sound would > commence on the 14th December, even though we all know it has been > accessible through the normal iPlayer Listen Live. > > On 13th December a new button appeared on the BBC Radio 3 home page for > HD Sound. This was in addition to the normal iPlayer Listen Live button. > At the time both gave the 320 kbps aac stream. > > Yesterday, 14th December the bit rate for the 'normal' iPlayer 'Listen > Live' button dropped back to 192 kpbs aac. Although the information on > the pop up window gave the bit rate as 128 kbps it was definitely 192 > kbps. (192 kbps is the bit rate that it was at before it was increased > to 320 kbps.) > > The HD Sound button accessed the 320 kbps aac stream. > > So, it looks as though there is a new configuration with the BBC Radio > 3 listen live: > > - the 'normal' button: 192 kbps aac, plus > - the new HD Sound button: 320 kbps aac > > Perhaps we could plead with Triode to see if he can work his magic > again so that we have access to the 320 kbps stream now that the BBC > has reconfigured things. > > ... Please! Yes - it looks to have changed - I will need to update the plugin... Hopefully will do by this weekend assuming there are no stumbling blocks - watch this space. -- Triode Triode's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=82967 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] UK: BBC HD Sound - BBCiPlayer Support
There was an announcement by the BBC that Radio 3 HD Sound would commence on the 14th December, even though we all know it has been accessible through the normal iPlayer Listen Live. On 13th December a new button appeared on the BBC Radio 3 home page for HD Sound. This was in addition to the normal iPlayer Listen Live button. At the time both gave the 320 kbps aac stream. Yesterday, 14th December the bit rate for the 'normal' iPlayer 'Listen Live' button dropped back to 192 kpbs aac. Although the information on the pop up window gave the bit rate as 128 kbps it was definitely 192 kbps. (192 kbps is the bit rate that it was at before it was increased to 320 kbps.) The HD Sound button accessed the 320 kbps aac stream. So, it looks as though there is a new configuration with the BBC Radio 3 listen live: - the 'normal' button: 192 kbps aac, plus - the new HD Sound button: 320 kbps aac Perhaps we could plead with Triode to see if he can work his magic again so that we have access to the 320 kbps stream now that the BBC has reconfigured things. ... Please! -- JohnB JohnB's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=31553 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=82967 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] UK: BBC HD Sound - BBCiPlayer Support
hecd2;594711 Wrote: > BTW, if Triode is reading this, the iPlayer plug-in seems to be > currently picking up a 128kbps rather than 320kbps stream from Radio 3 > live. +1, although if I go via the BBC website (i.e. not on SB at all) I get the 'HD' streams fine. -- adamslim Touch, Caiman, 845 SET, Lowther monsters SB3, Charlize 2, One Thing Quad ESLs Boom x 2, Radio adamslim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7355 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=82967 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
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hecd2;594711 Wrote: > the iPlayer plug-in seems to be currently picking up a 128kbps rather > than 320kbps stream from Radio 3 live. Confirmed. -- VirusKiller VirusKiller's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=19799 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=82967 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] UK: BBC HD Sound - BBCiPlayer Support
copperstate;588095 Wrote: > Imho it sounds like the audio stalls for a very brief period and then > automatically resumes (the same seems to happen on the Radio 3 (non-uk) > stream occasionally). I also got the mini-dropouts on Touch but not SB3. Also solved by disabling AAC stream and converting to FLAC in SB Server. BTW, if Triode is reading this, the iPlayer plug-in seems to be currently picking up a 128kbps rather than 320kbps stream from Radio 3 live. -- hecd2 hecd2's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=42057 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=82967 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] UK: BBC HD Sound - BBCiPlayer Support
Triode;587401 Wrote: > I would not expect the NetworkThread timeout to impact this as its not > the audio connection. This looks fine to me otherwise. > > How loud are these blips and glitches? - I have probably only seriously > listened to my transporter so if they are quiet I may have missed them. > However I think anything which is there is in the codec of squeezeplay > as the audio is not underruning. Imho it sounds like the audio stalls for a very brief period and then automatically resumes. The same happens on the Radio 3 (non-uk) stream occasionally. Otherwise the sound quality is fine, but the difference is not as visible as in the Radio 3 test stream. -- copperstate copperstate's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=34756 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=82967 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] UK: BBC HD Sound - BBCiPlayer Support
amcluesent;587395 Wrote:
> Log shown with repeated lines removed. The only entries which *may* be
> correlated to a glitch are about 'network thread timeout for Task'
>
> >
Code:
> >
> Nov 6 10:41:25 squeezeplay: INFO audio.decode - Rtmp.lua:614 sending ack
> Nov 6 10:41:25 squeezeplay: INFO audio.decode - Playback.lua:411
0.0%/43.0%
> Nov 6 10:41:27 squeezeplay: INFO audio.decode - Playback.lua:411
0.0%/43.5%
> ...
> Nov 6 10:41:32 squeezeplay: INFO audio.decode - Rtmp.lua:217 message
type 4 - user control message 6: Ping Request - sending response
> Nov 6 10:41:33 squeezeplay: INFO audio.decode - Playback.lua:411
0.0%/43.6%
> ...
> Nov 6 10:41:41 squeezeplay: INFO audio.decode - Playback.lua:411
0.0%/43.3%
> Nov 6 10:41:41 squeezeplay: WARN net.thread - NetworkThread.lua:146
network thread timeout for Task(SocketHttp {Theseus_Request}(R))
> Nov 6 10:41:41 squeezeplay: INFO audio.decode - Rtmp.lua:614 sending ack
> Nov 6 10:41:42 squeezeplay: INFO audio.decode - Playback.lua:411
0.0%/43.5%
>
> >
I would not expect the NetworkThread timeout to impact this as its not
the audio connection. This looks fine to me otherwise.
How loud are these blips and glitches? - I have probably only seriously
listened to my transporter so if they are quiet I may have missed them.
However I think anything which is there is in the codec of squeezeplay
as the audio is not underruning.
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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] UK: BBC HD Sound - BBCiPlayer Support
Log shown with repeated lines removed. The only entries which *may* be
correlated to a glitch are about 'network thread timeout for Task'
Code:
Nov 6 10:41:25 squeezeplay: INFO audio.decode - Rtmp.lua:614 sending ack
Nov 6 10:41:25 squeezeplay: INFO audio.decode - Playback.lua:411 0.0%/43.0%
Nov 6 10:41:27 squeezeplay: INFO audio.decode - Playback.lua:411 0.0%/43.5%
...
Nov 6 10:41:32 squeezeplay: INFO audio.decode - Rtmp.lua:217 message type
4 - user control message 6: Ping Request - sending response
Nov 6 10:41:33 squeezeplay: INFO audio.decode - Playback.lua:411 0.0%/43.6%
...
Nov 6 10:41:41 squeezeplay: INFO audio.decode - Playback.lua:411 0.0%/43.3%
Nov 6 10:41:41 squeezeplay: WARN net.thread - NetworkThread.lua:146
network thread timeout for Task(SocketHttp {Theseus_Request}(R))
Nov 6 10:41:41 squeezeplay: INFO audio.decode - Rtmp.lua:614 sending ack
Nov 6 10:41:42 squeezeplay: INFO audio.decode - Playback.lua:411 0.0%/43.5%
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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] UK: BBC HD Sound - BBCiPlayer Support
amcluesent;587381 Wrote: > >Touch/Radio process the stream direct and so don't rely on the server > for processing the rtmp or doing the aac decode< > > That suggested a work-around; I disabled native AAC in File Types so > faad is transcoding to FLAC. The fraction-of-a-second blips and > glitches I was getting every few minutes are now gone from the Touch > with the Radio 3 HD stream when using iPlayer plug-in. > > Happy to try debug logs etc. Hum - I don't seem to get those. The best thing to do is turn on audio.codec and audio.decode debugging on Touch (Logging menu) and the log into it and see what goes in the log (tail -f /var/log/messages) -- Triode Triode's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=82967 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] UK: BBC HD Sound - BBCiPlayer Support
>Touch/Radio process the stream direct and so don't rely on the server for processing the rtmp or doing the aac decode< That suggested a work-around; I disabled native AAC in File Types so faad is transcoding to FLAC. The fraction-of-a-second blips and glitches are now gone from the Touch with the Radio 3 HD stream when using iPlayer plug-in. Happy to try debug logs etc. -- amcluesent amcluesent's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10286 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=82967 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] UK: BBC HD Sound - BBCiPlayer Support
amcluesent;586904 Wrote: > I'm finding that Radio 3 320kpbs when played on the Touch is getting > very brief drop-outs, no such problems with the TP. This seems to > happen with both iPlayer and applet. Doesn't sound like network losses > on my broadband. The Touch plays music from my Library fine. > > BBC iPlayer (v1.1.12) and BBC Radio applet (1.4) > Player Model: Squeezebox Touch > Firmware: 7.5.1-r9009 Hum - strange.. Touch/Radio process the stream direct and so don't rely on the server for processing the rtmp or doing the aac decode. This could explain a differencebut I have not seen additional dropouts on touch. I will try touch more to see. -- Triode Triode's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=82967 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] UK: BBC HD Sound - BBCiPlayer Support
nonnoroger;587317 Wrote: > Just a suggestion - would you please consider taking the opportunity of > introducing this new menu choice to move to have just three options at > this level: > > Listen Live > Listen Again > Special Events > Will think about this, my issue is I don't know how frequently any special events will be available so it may not justify making it a top level menu which is this prominent. Anyway you can edit the menu.opml file in the BBCiPlayer directory if you want to do try this out - put the listen again entries inside an outline level. -- Triode Triode's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=82967 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] UK: BBC HD Sound - BBCiPlayer Support
Triode;586009 Wrote: > The BBC has announced trials of 320k AAC streams which they are calling > "HD Sound". This is being supported for specific events on Radio 2 and > will become the standard for Radio 3 streaming. > > ... > > To try please install the latest version of the BBCiPlayer plugin, and > navigate to the "Special Events" menu at the bottom of BBCiPlayer menu > lists. > Many thanks Triode for your continued excellent support and development of this plugin. Just a suggestion - would you please consider taking the opportunity of introducing this new menu choice to move to have just three options at this level: Listen Live Listen Again Special Events I think this would make navigation easier by a worthwhile amount by making the menu structure more consistent. Thanks again NonnoRoger -- nonnoroger nonnoroger's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=35581 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=82967 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] UK: BBC HD Sound - BBCiPlayer Support
Listening to the Radio 3 concert tonight on my Touch, I was pretty sure that the peaks on the Beethoven symphony were clipping. Was certainly the 320kpbs stream. BBC iPlayer Extras (v1.1) Player Model: Squeezebox Touch Firmware: 7.5.1-r9009 -- amcluesent amcluesent's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10286 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=82967 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] UK: BBC HD Sound - BBCiPlayer Support
Survey completed. Including my views on the artists. Would like to hear "HD" radio from a well produced modern CD and compare with the same from my collection through my Squeezebox in FLAC to make a better stab at evaluation. Elton John's Honky Chateau for example or the new "Band On The Run" mentioned elsewhere on these boards. -- ian_heys ian_heys's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2629 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=82967 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] UK: BBC HD Sound - BBCiPlayer Support
Could I ask anyone who tries these streams to also post feedback here on or complete the BBC site feedback form (from url in page 1). Its important we give good feedback on the benefits of 320k streaming -- Triode Triode's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=82967 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] UK: BBC HD Sound - BBCiPlayer Support
Triode;586114 Wrote: > Latest version should do this for the Radio3 stream, but not for the > Special events as there is no consitent way to get the information for > the special events. Thanks Triode As usual one step ahead. -- ian_heys ian_heys's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2629 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=82967 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] UK: BBC HD Sound - BBCiPlayer Support
I've just updated the BBCRadio applet to support the Radio 3 live and Electric Proms "special event" listen again streams (3 concerts) at 320k. This will allow users of Squeezebox Touch and Radio to use get this content without needing a local server. To try: - go to the Settings, Advanced, Applet Installer menu on the player - turn off "Recommended Applets Only" - select and install the BBCRadio applet - when the player reboots, BBC Radio should appear under the Internet Radio menu [Please note that Radio has been reported to crash with the 320k streams, so these are best tried using a Squeezebox Touch at present. The next firmware will fix this] -- Triode Triode's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=82967 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] UK: BBC HD Sound - BBCiPlayer Support
amcluesent;586107 Wrote: > All fine for me on the Boom and TP, excellent work! The Radio I've seen > reboot when playing the Radio 3 Live stream - maybe a fluke? I've found a bug in the Rtmp implementation which on baby can cause reboots. (it uses too much memory which isn't a problem on Touch, but on Baby is a problem) Currently testing a fix, but this probably explains the reboot you saw. -- Triode Triode's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=82967 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] UK: BBC HD Sound - BBCiPlayer Support
ericj;586158 Wrote: > First, thanks Triode for this. I quite liked the proms (non-electric) > broadcasts that were tested before, and listen to Radio 3 quite often. > > Does anyone have a clue of the bitrate of the Radio 3 live stream > outside the UK? It reports 32k cbr, but sounds a bit better, but of > course that could be the result of wanting a higher bit rate. Indeed, > don't tell the BEEB, but I would pay for higher bitrates > > Again, thanks. The BBC app is the single best aspect of the squeeze > universe to me You should see this on the more info menu with the latest plugin for radio 3. -- Triode Triode's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=82967 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] UK: BBC HD Sound - BBCiPlayer Support
First, thanks Triode for this. I quite liked the proms (non-electric) broadcasts that were tested before, and listen to Radio 3 quite often. Does anyone have a clue of the bitrate of the Radio 3 live stream outside the UK? It reports 32k cbr, but sounds a bit better, but of course that could be the result of wanting a higher bit rate. Indeed, don't tell the BEEB, but I would pay for higher bitrates Again, thanks. The BBC app is the single best aspect of the squeeze universe to me -- ericj ericj's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3230 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=82967 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] UK: BBC HD Sound - BBCiPlayer Support
ian_heys;586093 Wrote: > Just gave it a quick try on the Electric Proms and it worked flawlessly > - more than can be said for the performer. > > I'll give it a try on Radio 3 when I have a bit more time and stop > carping on about the E Proms. > > As an aside. > > Would it be possible to pick up the debug flag for bit rate and insert > into the "more information" part of the display. > > eg > > File Format: AAC > Bit Rate: 320kbps > Latest version should do this for the Radio3 stream, but not for the Special events as there is no consitent way to get the information for the special events. -- Triode Triode's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=82967 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] UK: BBC HD Sound - BBCiPlayer Support
All fine for me on the Boom and TP, excellent work! The Radio I've seen reboot when playing the Radio 3 Live stream - maybe a fluke? -- amcluesent amcluesent's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10286 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=82967 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
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Just gave it a quick try on the Electric Proms and it worked flawlessly - more than can be said for the performer. I'll give it a try on Radio 3 when I have a bit more time and stop carping on about the E Proms. As an aside. Would it be possible to pick up the debug flag for bit rate and insert into the "more information" part of the menu. eg File Format: AAC Bit Rate: 320kbps I know it may not be part of what the BBC send in the iPlayer and it may be complicated - but we do see a lot of posts on here with people not quite sure of which stream they're listening to. -- ian_heys ian_heys's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2629 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=82967 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
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Thanks Triode Will give it a try - but I may not be able to force myself to listen to all of the above as at least one of them is a long way past his peak! -- ian_heys ian_heys's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2629 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=82967 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
[SlimDevices: Plugins] UK: BBC HD Sound - BBCiPlayer Support
The BBC has announced trials of 320k AAC streams which they are calling "HD Sound". This is being supported for specific events on Radio 2 and will become the standard for Radio 3 streaming. http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/bbcinternet/2010/10/listening_to_the_bbc_radio_2_electric_proms_in_hd_sound.html I've just updated the BBCiPlayer so that squeezeboxes can receive these streams. I would be interested in feedback on what the sound quality is like. One of the "Electric Proms" (Neil Diamond) concerts is live this evening and then will be available with the other two (Elton John and Robert Plant) are available for listen again. To try please install the latest version of the BBCiPlayer plugin, and navigate to the "Special Events" menu at the bottom of BBCiPlayer menu lists. BBC Radio 3 live from the standard BBCiPlayer Listen Live menu is now the 320k stream for users in the uk. In both cases ensure FlashAAC is enabled on the setting page. -- Triode Triode's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=82967 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
