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Jeff Wall wrote: If George had been driving a 73 Suburban, he might of not gotten hurt as bad. When I'm out there behind the wheel of my full size '89 4 wheel drive Ford Bronco, or the wife lets me drive her '65 Plymouth Deathmobile, I feel proud to be an American. Especially when I hit one of those little Geo Metro's at about 110mph. Us Americans didn't climb to the top of the world's food chain to eat tofu, be sensitive, or drive tiny ass foriegn clown cars. Nope, V-8's, Guns and dead animal flesh made us what we are today. Jeff Wall http://www.twangzine.com The Webs least sucky music magazine 3421 Daisy Crescent - Va Beach, Va - 23456 Right on Jeff. Out her in Utah we call those lumbering big ass SUV's, particularly American made ones, Morman Assualt Vehicles (MAV's). Iceman
Re: SUV's RE: Jones update 8pm
Jeff Wall wrote: If George had been driving a 73 Suburban, he might of not gotten hurt as bad. When I'm out there behind the wheel of my full size '89 4 wheel drive Ford Bronco, or the wife lets me drive her '65 Plymouth Deathmobile, I feel proud to be an American. Especially when I hit one of those little Geo Metro's at about 110mph. Us Americans didn't climb to the top of the world's food chain to eat tofu, be sensitive, or drive tiny ass foriegn clown cars. Nope, V-8's, Guns and dead animal flesh made us what we are today. Jeff Wall http://www.twangzine.com The Webs least sucky music magazine 3421 Daisy Crescent - Va Beach, Va - 23456 Jeff- you are the greatest unpublished (book-wise) American humorist today. You never cease to cause me severe belly laughs. Thanks for letting me contribute to RR and do take care over in the Gulf. As I drive a Bronco also, I must say you totally cracked me up with this post(as usual). I will miss you. Good luck and God speed in your travels and special blessings to your gorgeous wife and kids. Write a book, Jeff Tera
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I'm not for a total ban on SUV's. I kinda like the old models, but I'm not crazy about having 20 of em to one car on every road hiway biway expressway I'm on. As more and more people buy them, the driving skills go way down. People who have no idea how to drive these behemouths, jump behind the wheel, turn on all 20 headlights, charge up like a rhino right on your ass and then swerve and crash in the snow cos they think "hey, they drive these Expeditions up mountians in the commercials: that snow bank is nuthin!" After the last huge snowstorm, I heard truckers laughing about SUV's who sped by them on the interstate, only to end up upside down in the ditch later. News reports had Chicago littered with stuck SUV's, as their owners learned that they don't know how to drive em in bad weather, and that most of the new models can't hack rough driving conditions. This led to the auto industry insisting their vehicals were safe and rugged. An industry known for its honesty. Course, the newer SUV's are built for luxury, not for actual four wheeling, so that people can cart around their grocery bags surrounded by plush leather, 10 speaker 14 cd changer, etc and are far from able to handle rough terrain, especially when driven by a certified moron of a soccor mom with a car phone in one hand and a mascara pen in the other, while a cup of Starbucks Cappacino Lite w Goat Milk Steam balances on her leg as she dashes impatiently to Target, running down your ass cos you dare to drive somewhere around the speed limit. Meanwhile, stats are showing that these monsters are killing people more and more, not the drivers of the SUV's, of course, who are safely cushioned behind all that good old American Steel, but yes, people like those of us who think life on the road is complete with a Ford Escort Wagon. And with more SUV's being sold by owners, they are bought used by younger drivers, more prone to vehicular stupidity, thus increasing accidents and spreading mayhem ads they traverse the rough terrain between the malls and suburbs. Now Ford is coming out with a 19 foot long monster called the "Excursion." Coming to a parking lot near you, where they -duh- won't fit into a standard parking place. But as long as it's good American Steel I also hate those new big pickups, which are now considered luxury transportation. Why have a pick up if you're gonna keep the bed sealed with a cover? Which most everyone of these Ram pickups have. Why buy it if you ain't gonna use it? This current rage is doomed, of course, as soon as gas prices start edging back up. Then all your fine American Steel (made in another country, most likely) will be rusting in used car lots, as people realize it's impossible to keep up the payments (course, they're all leased, another fraud encouraged by the auto industry so we have to keep buying new cars: say no to leasing and keep your car awhile: that's the true American way!) and buy the gas. The simple fact that most people drive SUV's in conditions that far from warrant their use (you don't need 4 wheel drive in central Ohio), they drive them just cos the Jone's next door have one, shows that one thing you can say about our country is that we don't learn a damn thing, we just keep trucking on, oblivious to anything but the here and now and what's mine and get the hell out of my way. -Original Message- From: Geff King [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 1999 5:31 PM To: passenger side Subject: RE: SUV's RE: Jones update 8pm On Tue, 9 Mar 1999, Matt Benz wrote: Oh shutup! I drive a Ford. SUV's are for..! (sound of Hummer going by) I think Jeff Wall is yanking a few virtual chains... Also, if you have to outlaw SUV's then you have to outlaw Ford vans, too. Know who owned a Ford van? Red Sovine. Course you knew that... -- Geff King * [EMAIL PROTECTED] * http://www2.ari.net/gking/ "Don't let me catch you laughin' when the jukebox cries" - Kinky Friedman, "Sold American"
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You go, Matt! The art of the Jeremiad is not dead!!! g. Those Mormon Assault Vehicles do suck. All they are is symbols of ADY syndrome (Advanced Decadent Yuppiedom, of course) --junior
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Now I'm lookin up Jeremiad.. -Original Message- From: Ph. Barnard [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 1999 3:36 AM To: passenger side Subject: RE: SUV's RE: Jones update 8pm You go, Matt! The art of the Jeremiad is not dead!!! g. Those Mormon Assault Vehicles do suck. All they are is symbols of ADY syndrome (Advanced Decadent Yuppiedom, of course) --junior
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Matt: Now I'm lookin up Jeremiad.. Heh... g. Jeremiad's were a particular form of sermon in 16th-17th century Calvinist culture, consisting of long and elaborate complaints and inveighings against the fallen-ness of current times. So-named from the book of Jeremiah, wherein the prophet expresses outrage at current sinfulness and a sense of futility about calling upon the people to get rid of their damn SUVs!!! (Sadducean Utility Vehicles??). Cultural historians talk about a tradition of the Jeremiad that extends through later American culture: eloquent railing and hollering against the decadence of the day, etc... --junior
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Jeff Wall wrote: Although I regularly consume the dead flesh of little critters, I prefer to hunt the little bastards at my local grocery store. snip The fact that Jeff Wall and I can coexist is a fine example of what makes P2 is a beautiful thing. Now if he'd just stop hogging the sheets, we'd get along a lot better. Dave, who eats tofu, has shot a gun once in his life, is way left politically, and drives a tiny foreign clown car most of the time *** Dave Purcell, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Northern Ky Roots Music: http://w3.one.net/~newport Twangfest: http://www.twangfest.com
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I (heart) Matt Benz. rebecca -Original Message- From: Matt Benz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] I'm not for a total ban on SUV's. I kinda like the old models, but I'm not crazy about having 20 of em to one car on every road hiway biway expressway I'm on
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Why have a pick up if you're gonna keep the bed sealed with a cover? 1. So when you go to the dump, you can stuff the back of it with your trash and not have to worry about it blowing out. 2. Gas mileage is better because it makes it more aerodynamic than the open bed. 3. When you need to move something or carry a lot of stuff, you don't have to worry about it getting rained on or snowed on. 4. People steal stuff out of the open bed. A locking cover, although obviously not a complete theft deterrent, does slow down some people. I've had the same pickup with an open bed, a tonneau cover and now with a full fiberglass cap and I wouldn't trade the full fiberglass cap for anything. -paul [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Jeff Wall; what Tera said. You are an unmitigated genius. Publish! dan bentele; guilty sometime meat-eater, alleged sensitive-guy, and driver of a foreign-made clown car == "Us Americans didn't climb to the top of the world's food chain to eat tofu, be sensitive, or drive tiny ass foreign clown cars." (Jeff Wall, 1999)
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and are far from able to handle rough terrain, especially when driven by a certified moron of a soccor mom with a car phone in one hand and a mascara pen in the other, Just to be fair Matt, most of the SUV idiots I encounter are certified moron soccer dads g. I'll admit to liking 'em, and I have been dang tempted to get one. As someone who actually has to work at least a few weekends year on our farm, I would have at least some amount of cover in doing so, as you can't get around our farm very well (or even to it) w/out serious 4-wheel drive. But it has gotten just out of hand; here in St; Louis recently, I was driving right through *the* ritziest part of town right 7:30am, a a part of town where you cannot live unless you're hauling down serious serious bucks (Warson Rd for those interested, where I hear the Loui and Wendland estates are (;-)), and it was amazing to see all these solo-driven, starch-shirt SUV's being driven by all the docs and lawyers and execs who were heading either 5 miles to downtown Clayton or 15 or so to downtown St. Louis, all on generally pretty smooth pavement g. Like Neal said, the one great unjustifiable is the admissions standards, which are way below those required for cars. If they'd just fix those that would take a lot of the heat off. But like I said, I'm not on a high horse, I'm the only guy in my whole family who doesn't drive one, and my dad's the only one who even can justify it future moron soccer dad dan
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At 09:09 AM 3/8/99 -0500, you wrote: When cell phones are outlawed...blah blah blah. [Matt Benz] And SUV's. Praying for another gas crisis. And for George. Screw you, you eco-weinie college boy. American Steel made this world great. If George had been driving a 73 Suburban, he might of not gotten hurt as bad. When I'm out there behind the wheel of my full size '89 4 wheel drive Ford Bronco, or the wife lets me drive her '65 Plymouth Deathmobile, I feel proud to be an American. Especially when I hit one of those little Geo Metro's at about 110mph. Us Americans didn't climb to the top of the world's food chain to eat tofu, be sensitive, or drive tiny ass foriegn clown cars. Nope, V-8's, Guns and dead animal flesh made us what we are today. Jeff Wall http://www.twangzine.com The Webs least sucky music magazine 3421 Daisy Crescent - Va Beach, Va - 23456
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Screw you, you eco-weinie college boy. American Steel made this world great. If George had been driving a 73 Suburban, he might of not gotten hurt as bad. When I'm out there behind the wheel of my full size '89 4 wheel drive Ford Bronco, or the wife lets me drive her '65 Plymouth Deathmobile, I feel proud to be an American. Especially when I hit one of those little Geo Metro's at about 110mph. Us Americans didn't climb to the top of the world's food chain to eat tofu, be sensitive, or drive tiny ass foriegn clown cars. Nope, V-8's, Guns and dead animal flesh made us what we are today. Hey Jeff, have you ever met Ted Nugent? I bet you guys would be a real hoot to observe together on a hunting trip. -paul [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On Tue, 9 Mar 1999, Matt Benz wrote: Oh shutup! I drive a Ford. SUV's are for..! (sound of Hummer going by) I think Jeff Wall is yanking a few virtual chains... Also, if you have to outlaw SUV's then you have to outlaw Ford vans, too. Know who owned a Ford van? Red Sovine. Course you knew that... -- Geff King * [EMAIL PROTECTED] * http://www2.ari.net/gking/ "Don't let me catch you laughin' when the jukebox cries" - Kinky Friedman, "Sold American"
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At 04:32 PM 3/9/99 -0500, you wrote: Hey Jeff, have you ever met Ted Nugent? I bet you guys would be a real hoot to observe together on a hunting trip. Although I regularly consume the dead flesh of little critters, I prefer to hunt the little bastards at my local grocery store. Call me a hypocrite, but I am unable to go out into the woods and whack a critter that has done me no harm. I don't mind eating his tasty ass though, I just prefer someone else to whack him. I even go so far as to remove all the barbs from my fishing hooks and practice catch and release. Although I loved Double Live Gonzo, Nugent is way to radical right wing for my personal tastes. I also don't own any guns. My family has a history of clinical depression and addiction to things your better off not being addicted to. As a result, the ownership of firearms is not a safe bet in my household. I'm actually, in real life, a pretty sensitive guy. I have a bunch of teddy bears, I stop and help people broke down on the side of the road, and am constantly working to improve my karma points by trying to be nice and do the right thing. Nope, I couldn't walk through the woods and whack Bambi, unless I was forced to in order to eat. But if you were to threaten me or mine, I could whack you in the forehead with a .45 and not feel a shred of guilt. Why? Because as human, we are capable of knowing between right and wrong. When you intentionally choose wrong and it endangers the people I care about, you have just forfieted your constitutional as well as your human rights. Although I don't currently own firearms, I can get access to one pretty quicky. I'm a damned good shot. The wife is better. She stays pissed at me a lot. Just another reason not to keep guns in the house. Jeff Wall http://www.twangzine.com The Webs least sucky music magazine 3421 Daisy Crescent - Va Beach, Va - 23456
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Jeff Wall, You RULE Junior Walker NP George Jones "I'm A People" -Original Message- From: Jeff Wall [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, 10 March 1999 9:18 To: passenger side Subject: Re: SUV's RE: Jones update 8pm At 04:32 PM 3/9/99 -0500, you wrote: Hey Jeff, have you ever met Ted Nugent? I bet you guys would be a real hoot to observe together on a hunting trip. Although I regularly consume the dead flesh of little critters, I prefer to hunt the little bastards at my local grocery store. Call me a hypocrite, but I am unable to go out into the woods and whack a critter that has done me no harm. I don't mind eating his tasty ass though, I just prefer someone else to whack him. I even go so far as to remove all the barbs from my fishing hooks and practice catch and release. Although I loved Double Live Gonzo, Nugent is way to radical right wing for my personal tastes. I also don't own any guns. My family has a history of clinical depression and addiction to things your better off not being addicted to. As a result, the ownership of firearms is not a safe bet in my household. I'm actually, in real life, a pretty sensitive guy. I have a bunch of teddy bears, I stop and help people broke down on the side of the road, and am constantly working to improve my karma points by trying to be nice and do the right thing. Nope, I couldn't walk through the woods and whack Bambi, unless I was forced to in order to eat. But if you were to threaten me or mine, I could whack you in the forehead with a .45 and not feel a shred of guilt. Why? Because as human, we are capable of knowing between right and wrong. When you intentionally choose wrong and it endangers the people I care about, you have just forfieted your constitutional as well as your human rights. Although I don't currently own firearms, I can get access to one pretty quicky. I'm a damned good shot. The wife is better. She stays pissed at me a lot. Just another reason not to keep guns in the house. Jeff Wall http://www.twangzine.com The Webs least sucky music magazine 3421 Daisy Crescent - Va Beach, Va - 23456
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When cell phones are outlawed...blah blah blah. [Matt Benz] And SUV's. Praying for another gas crisis. And for George.
Jones update 8pm
After dealing with car wreck injuries for over a year, Please wear your seat belt. Singer George Jones Hurt in Crash By JIM PATTERSON Associated Press Writer FRANKLIN, Tenn. (AP) -- Country singer George Jones was in critical condition Saturday after he smashed his sport-utility vehicle into a bridge near his home while talking on a cell phone to his stepdaughter. Jones, 67, lost control of his Lexus while rounding a curve on Highway 96, a curvy heavily-traveled two-lane road, and hit the bridge abutment, state police said. Police said Jones was not wearing a seat belt. It took rescuers about two hours to free him following the 1:30 p.m. accident, and he was taken by helicopter to Vanderbilt University Medical Center in nearby Nashville. Doctors said Jones suffered a collapsed lung, ruptured his liver and had internal bleeding. He was placed on a ventilator to aid in his breathing. Jones was unconscious when he was brought in and doctors gave him medication to keep him that way, Dr. John Morris said. ``The body responds to this kind of injury much better if we can control the pain and the blood pressure and so on,'' he said. Morris offered no prognosis but said he expects Jones will remain in critical condition for at least one or two days. Jones, famous for hits like ``He Stopped Loving Her Today'' and ``The Race is On,'' is generally considered one of the finest country singers ever. He was married for six years to the late singer Tammy Wynette. The pair were known as ``The King and Queen of Country Music'' in the 1970s. Since 1983, Jones has been married to Nancy Jones, his manager. Nicknamed ``Possum,'' Jones was born near Saratoga, Texas. At 16, he landed his first job as a musician, being paid $17.50 a week to play guitar with a husband-and-wife singing team in bars and dance halls. After two years in the Marines, he returned to Texas and began a recording career that has spanned 40 years, making him one of country music's top stars. Jones has battled alcoholism and drug abuse during much of his life. He was given the nickname ``No Show Jones'' for failing to appear at so many concerts and later recorded a song by that name. Jones was elected to the Country Music Hall of Fame in 1992. That same year, country fans and the media voted ``He Stopped Loving Her Today'' the most popular country song of all time. The 1980 weeper was about a man whose love for a woman died only when he did. Jones has been working on a new album for Asylum Records and is also host of ``The George Jones Show'' on television's The Nashville Network. Evelyn Shriver, head of Asylum Records, Jones' record label, said Jones called her from his car five or 10 minutes before the crash. He was listening to seven new songs he had recorded and was so excited he wanted to play them for her over the phone but could not get his cassette player to work, she said. She said his stepdaughter, Adina Estes, later told her she was talking to him when the crash happened. He's pulled through before, I hope he gets through this. Stick
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In a message dated 3/6/99 7:24:56 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Country singer George Jones was in critical condition Saturday after he smashed his sport-utility vehicle into a bridge near his home while talking on a cell phone to his stepdaughter. When cell phones are outlawed...blah blah blah. Goddamit. Slim
