Re: My Bing-a-Ling

1999-04-21 Thread Dave Purcell

Joe Gracey wrote:

 Bob Wills made his guys learn the hit songs on the charts no matter what
 genre they came from. They had to, even though he had hits of his own. 

Along these lines, sorta kinda, I had a weird experience along 
these lines last week. I'd just passed the point in Colin Escott's 
Hank bio where he was discussing Hank's hits charting on the pop 
side, for Mitch Miller and the like. He mentioned Tony Bennett's 
cover of "Cold, Cold Heart" -- I heard that very same version playing 
over a restaurant's sound system the next night.

Spooky.

Dave


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My Bing-a-Ling

1999-04-20 Thread Dave Purcell

The level of knowledge on this list never ceases to amaze me. I 
honestly had no idea about Bing Crosby's importance in popular 
music -- I just thought he was a movie crooner. Between the posts 
of the last few days and just finishing Escott's Hank bio, I'm feeling 
all educated this week.

Thanks, folks.

Wondering when we're going to start debating the Artist of the 
Millennium,
Dave




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Re: My Bing-a-Ling

1999-04-20 Thread David Cantwell

At 02:07 PM 4/20/99 -0400, DP wrote:

Wondering when we're going to start debating the Artist of the 
Millennium,

Solomon, for all those psalms. Or was that the last millenium

G --david cantwell



Re: My Bing-a-Ling

1999-04-20 Thread BARNARD

Yes Dave, Bing was the man.

You might check out that "High Society" movie with Bing Crosby, Frank
Sinatra, and Louis Armstrong all in the same plot (with Grace Kelly as
Female lead).  It's got two or three of our all-time greats on one stage,
as it were.  And it's aged better than most Presley films g.

-junior



Re: My Bing-a-Ling

1999-04-20 Thread BARNARD

 Solomon, for all those psalms. Or was that the last millenium

The diversity of P2 threads will always amaze.  David, a person with your
name ought to know that David wrote the best psalms!!! Solomon only sold
records because of all those dirty lyrics.  I'll admit David's movie
career was the pits, though, and his son Absalom never did any good work
at all, imho.  That "David II" tour was the worst. 

--junior



Re: My Bing-a-Ling

1999-04-20 Thread David Cantwell

At 01:32 PM 4/20/99 -0500, you wrote:

You might check out that "High Society" movie with Bing Crosby, Frank
Sinatra, and Louis Armstrong all in the same plot (with Grace Kelly as
Female lead).  It's got two or three of our all-time greats on one stage,
as it were.  And it's aged better than most Presley films g.

Well, it's not very good, even by those low standards--though maybe it just
pales, and then some, in comparison to the incredible The Philadelphia
Story, the non-musical film it was based upon. 

BUT, the music in High Society is often quite good--especially a Bing-Satch
duet on, I think, "That's Jazz" and a Bing-Frank duet on, I think, "What A
Swell Party It's Been." Then again, it's a Cole Porter score, so of course
the songs are good. The only thing that could ruin them is if someone who
can't sing sings them and, unfortunately, Grace Kelly does just that on at
least two occasions. --david cantwell





Re: My Bing-a-Ling

1999-04-20 Thread David Cantwell

Ok, my last Bing post, promise.  

In case the discussion of the last couple of days has peaked anyone's
curiosity to check out some Bing Crosby, here's a few suggestions. Knowing
my audience, I'm sticking (usually) with his more stripped down and
stringless later stuff. 

Bing With A Beat, with Bob Scobey's Frisco Jazz Band (RCA, 1957)--this set
has Bing in fine voice with great arrangements, some going the swinging'
sinatra route but others more in a hot jazz vein. Very, very good record. 

Some Fine Old Chesnuts (Decca, 1953)--Bing with the Buddy Cole Trio. This
is a fine record in as nearly an intimate an approach as Crosby ever took.
It's on disc now, too, a two-fer with 1957's New Tricks, a less successful
Buddy Cole sequel from '57. 

The Great Country Hits (Capitol, 1964)--Recommended ONLY IF you like the
nashville sound, and in a 1960s Eddy Arnold vein to boot, this album of
late Crosby includes covers of everything from Oh Lonesome Me and
Heartaches By The Number to Wolverton Mountain, Hello Walls and Still.
Pretty darn good stuff.

I know there's a collection of his 1940s country-cowboy stuff--Pistol
Packin' Mama, Don't Fence Me In, New San Antonio Rose, Deep In The Heart Of
Texas, etc--but I don't know the name of it. But I highly recommend it,
whatever it's called.

The four-cd MCA box, Bing: His Legendary Years, 1931-1957, is great--but
probably not a very economical investment, unless you're already a convert. 

My fave Bing moment is him doing It's Been A Long, Long Time backed by only
the Les Paul Trio--if anyone knows if there's an entire album of this
pairing, please let me know ASAP. 

Finally, I am STILL looking for Bing's two sides recorded in 1952 with
Grady Martin and His Slew Foot Five. A heads up would be much appreciated
if you can share any leads.

Buh, buh, buh bye! --david cantwell




Re: My Bing-a-Ling

1999-04-20 Thread Greg Harness

Dave Purcell wrote:

 Wondering when we're going to start debating the Artist of the 
 Millennium,

The answer is: Walter Johnson

~Greg




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Re: My Bing-a-Ling

1999-04-20 Thread JKellySC1

In a message dated 4/20/99 1:07:06 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
writes:

 Wondering when we're going to start debating the Artist of the 
 Millennium, 


Mozart or Prince.

slim



Re: My Bing-a-Ling

1999-04-20 Thread JP Riedie

In a message dated 4/20/99 1:07:06 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:

 Wondering when we're going to start debating the Artist of the
 Millennium, 


Mozart or Prince.

slim

Do you need a favor from me or something?





Re: My Bing-a-Ling

1999-04-20 Thread JKellySC1

In a message dated 4/20/99 6:20:41 PM Central Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Do you need a favor from me or something? 


Umm, yes I do. I will ask offlist.

Slim



Re: My Bing-a-Ling

1999-04-20 Thread Jamie Swedberg

David Cantwell says, of "High Society":

Well, it's not very good, even by those low standards--though maybe it just
pales, and then some, in comparison to the incredible The Philadelphia
Story, the non-musical film it was based upon.

Ooh, I gotta disagree, partly because I loathe Katherine Hepburn so
completely. I am probably alone in that. But the rest of my reason is that
(a) as you said, the music in "High Society" is great, and (b) no movie
scene has ever caused me to work up as much of a sweat as that poolside
scene between Sinatra and Grace Kelley. O-weee, I had to splash some
water on my face.

--Jamie S.

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Re: My Bing-a-Ling

1999-04-20 Thread Tom Smith

Dave Purcell wrote:
  I
 honestly had no idea about Bing Crosby's importance in popular
 music 

Johnny Shines told Peter Guralnick that Robert Johnson was 
as likely to play Bing's hits as one of his own blues tunes if 
requested.   Dunno if that constitutes an influence, but when 
it comes to paying the bills, even Johnson apparently did 
what a guy's gotta do.

Tom Smith



Re: My Bing-a-Ling

1999-04-20 Thread Joe Gracey

David Cantwell wrote:

 
 I know there's a collection of his 1940s country-cowboy stuff--Pistol
 Packin' Mama, Don't Fence Me In, New San Antonio Rose, Deep In The Heart Of
 Texas, etc--but I don't know the name of it. But I highly recommend it,
 whatever it's called.

The Bob Wills guys all told a story about Crosby coming to some bash in
Tulsa in his honor and getting off the train and when somebody said
something about the orchestra, he supposedly said
"Orchestra-Smorchestra, where is Bob Wills? His band is who I want to
sing with. Those guys cook." I'm inventing his lines, of course, but
that was the gist, and supposedly they did in fact back him up and he
did the whole show with them. Love to hear a bootleg of that baby g...
-- 
Joe Gracey
President-For-Life, Jackalope Records
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Re: My Bing-a-Ling

1999-04-20 Thread Joe Gracey

Tom Smith wrote:
 
 Dave Purcell wrote:
   I
  honestly had no idea about Bing Crosby's importance in popular
  music
 
 Johnny Shines told Peter Guralnick that Robert Johnson was
 as likely to play Bing's hits as one of his own blues tunes if
 requested.   Dunno if that constitutes an influence, but when
 it comes to paying the bills, even Johnson apparently did
 what a guy's gotta do.

Bob Wills made his guys learn the hit songs on the charts no matter what
genre they came from. They had to, even though he had hits of his own. 


-- 
Joe Gracey
President-For-Life, Jackalope Records
http://www.kimmierhodes.com