Martina (was Re: Kelly Willis Review from Salon)

1999-02-25 Thread Dina Gunderson

Louise said:

I can never understand the popularity of Martina McBride. To me she is
blandness personified. Maybe that's the answer.

I don't think Martina McBride is bland.  She always seems lively.  She has
done some bland songs, but blandness personified?  That would be, um, Mindy
McCready, I think.

Martina has done some good songs over the years.  Some that I like from her
1995 "Wild Angels" album are her versions of "Two More Bottles of Wine",
"Swingin' Doors" (not the Haggard song, though--the one that Molly  the
Heymakers recorded a few years ago) and "Cry On the Shoulder of the Road"
(Levon Helm contributed to this one--I saw him sing it with her on a TV
show--ugh, I think the G-man was her other guest).  

I think many people here would like Martina's 1992 album, "The Time Has
Come" very much--full of steel, fiddle, some yodeling, some killer country
weepers, and in general very traditional sounds.  I really like "Cheap
Whiskey" even though it's got bombastic drums.  (I'm glad that I'm unable
to tell the GB is doing background vocals on this.)

Dina



Re: Kelly Willis Review from Salon

1999-02-25 Thread vgs399

First of all, the guy puts this in print not bothering to get Trisha
Yearwood's name spelled correctly.
Secondly, he hasn't paid attention to those  who have said and proven that
they wanted to "get back to basics" and make "real country records" or the
labels who have signed artists having a more "country" feel.   Vince Gill,
Dolly Parton, LeeAnn Womack, Patty Loveless, the return to form of Dwight
Yoakam, a hearty welcome back to Randy Travis, Alan Jackson still cranking
out country, Steve Wariner getting some due;  or does this guy just judge
his country music by the crossover appeal of the likes of Rimes, Twain,
Brooks, McBride, Yearwood?
He may not be wrong with McBride though who has had some very good country
moments and who does have a gorgeous voice.  "Evolution" is probably her
most pop-type record to date.  "The Way That I Am" is a pretty good example
of her skills as a country singer.  Maybe the pop/rock influence combined
with the vocal theatrics we've seen of late with mostly female country
singers is what his real gripe is.
"Trampoline" with its latin rhythms and that one
twenties-vaudeville-sung-through-a-megaphone-type-song may never have made a
big dent in the country charts, even a few years ago.  Quite frankly, the
album is more of an alternative output than any other recording The
Mavericks have ever done.
Alison  Krauss - may not be so much as a "barb" against her as trying to
prove his point - again a critic citing that production points toward the
"realness" of an artist.  Real by whose standards?  Is it by the production
quality which existed in the forties, fifities or sixties?  Or is he saying
that a more pared-down accompaniment is crucial to "keeping it country".
Is country music really how many instruments one can bring to the recording
studio or is it really about feeling?  Is this reviewer hearing lush
accompaniment and likens all such recordings to the bargain basement of
music or is he listening with an open mind. Is he wishing to jump on a
bandwagon of those critics who state everything which is wrong with country
music and glamorize their "hip" knowledge
by refusing to glamorize the "what's right" .
Tera

Kelly Willis
"What I Deserve"
Rykodisc

Flesh and blood
KELLY WILLIS' NEW ALBUM, "WHAT I DESERVE," IS AN
ANTIDOTE TO THE SLICKNESS THAT'S RUINED COUNTRY
MUSIC.

 BY CHARLES TAYLOR |
 A few years ago, without
 really intending to, I
 stopped listening to most
 new country music.
 When the most
 enthusiasm I could
 muster for certain new
 records was, "Well, it's
 not as slick as it might
be," I realized that I had simply stopped expecting
the genre to produce anything much of interest. The
slicking up of country music was nothing new; it had
been going on at least since the countrypolitan sound
of the '60s. But in the last few years that slickness
has felt like a stake through the heart. I suppose I
could learn to tell Shania's voice from Tricia's from
Deana's from Mindy's if I put my mind to it. But
nothing I've heard has made the trouble it would
take seem worth it.

More popular than ever, country music is also -- as
a form -- more debased than ever. Turn to your
local country station or switch on TNN and what
you hear is less the country sound than
representations of that sound, voices and guitars that
twang as if they'd been programmed, everything
stripped of the dirt of experience. The truth is that
the themes country music has traditionally dealt with
-- sin, loss and its acceptance, redemption or the
refusal of it -- have no place in a genre that has been
reduced to the manufactured emotion of party
songs, empowerment songs (for the women singers),
MOR ballads. The sort of schlocky material done by
the singers that people in their 40s and late 30s grew
up seeing on talk shows -- the likes of Jerry Vale,
Sandler and Young, Vic Damone -- is now being
churned out in a country idiom. The "rock" side of
country is no less safe. For aging rock audiences, the
flashy stage shows of performers like Garth Brooks
or Shania Twain are a sort of security blanket,
allowing people who long ago stopped paying
attention to rock 'n' roll to feel as if they're still in
the fold.

The bright spots have been sparse. I continue
listening to Martina McBride because, despite all the
second-rate material and musicianship she settles
for, I still hear a real person when she sings. (And
I'm not ready to give up on anyone who delivered as
powerful a performance as "Independence Day,"
perhaps the greatest single of the decade, certainly
the most subversive.) But McBride's success is not
likely to encourage her to take on the material or
sidemen that would challenge her. And I don't know
when we're likely to hear another album from
Bobbie Cryner, whose 1995 "Girl of Your Dreams,"
the toughest set of marriage songs since Richard and
Linda Thompson's "Shoot Out the Lights," showed
how real feeling might be possible in the slick
country mainstream. Country radio has become so
rigidly formatted 

Re: Martina (was Re: Kelly Willis Review from Salon)

1999-02-25 Thread Shane S. Rhyne

Howdy,

You know, I've already taken some ribbing on P2 for it and it makes poor ol'
Slim nearly gag to death when I say it, but count me as a fan of Martina
McBride.

I don't catch the "blandness" label that folks seem to put on her. Of
course, I also happen to believe that "Independence Day" is one of the best
songs of the decade (since folks seem to be in a mood to compile such data).
And, I'd happily count "Cheap Whiskey," as one of my personal favorites as
well. (For that matter, I think y'all might benefit from a listen to her
debut album, The Time Has Come, which features "Cheap Whiskey" and other
tunes that make for a pretty solid debut performance. The album also
includes backing support from Carl Jackson and Kathy Chiavola, an overlooked
voice in her own right.)

I find that McBride is capable of using her talent to deliver a country-pop
tune, a ballad, or what you guys sometimes refer to as a "real" country
song. Regardless of what type of song she's performing, I generally have no
trouble finding the country-influence in it, unlike (to pick on an easy
target) some of Shania's most recent efforts (although, Twain does carry a
definite country influence in earlier works. She will, I imagine, eventually
jump with both feet onto the pop side of the fence, as Mr. Weisberger
suggested earlier.)

Here's the part that'll probably make Slim choke on his tongue...

I have no qualms about placing McBride among some of the notable other
female country singers who mixed a sometimes "pop-oriented" sound with
country-rooted ballads and "down home" finger poppin' music. One that comes
to mind pretty quickly in that group is Jeannie C. Riley, but others who fit
that description pretty well include Tammy Wynette and Donna Fargo.

At least, that's how my ears hear it.

Take care,

Shane Rhyne
Knoxville, TN
[EMAIL PROTECTED]






RE: Kelly Willis Review from Salon

1999-02-24 Thread Jon Weisberger

 Flesh and blood
 KELLY WILLIS' NEW ALBUM, "WHAT I DESERVE," IS AN
 ANTIDOTE TO THE SLICKNESS THAT'S RUINED COUNTRY
 MUSIC.

  BY CHARLES TAYLOR |
  A few years ago, without
  really intending to, I
  stopped listening to most
  new country music.
  When the most
  enthusiasm I could
  muster for certain new
  records was, "Well, it's
  not as slick as it might
 be," I realized that I had simply stopped expecting
 the genre to produce anything much of interest.

Am I the only person who thinks that that was the point at which Mr. Taylor
should have considered not writing about new country music?  And then to
single out Martina McBride as a noble exception, while backhanding Alison...
What a maroon.

Sorry, Neal.

Jon Weisberger  Kenton County, KY [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://home.fuse.net/jonweisberger/




Re: Kelly Willis Review from Salon

1999-02-24 Thread Ndubb

   BY CHARLES TAYLOR |
   A few years ago, without
   really intending to, I
   stopped listening to most
   new country music.
   When the most
   enthusiasm I could
   muster for certain new
   records was, "Well, it's
   not as slick as it might
  be," I realized that I had simply stopped expecting
  the genre to produce anything much of interest.
 
 Am I the only person who thinks that that was the point at which Mr. Taylor
 should have considered not writing about new country music?  And then to
 single out Martina McBride as a noble exception, while backhanding Alison...
 What a maroon.
 
 Sorry, Neal.
  

No prob here, Jon. I agree with you. Taylor instantly ruins his cred by saying
he hasn't paid attention to the genre for X number of years. But worse, to me,
is that he makes himself the star of the review. I can't stand that. Leave the
"I" out of it.

Neal Weiss



Re: Kelly Willis Review from Salon

1999-02-24 Thread Louise Kyme



Jon Weisberger wrote:

 Am I the only person who thinks that that was the point at which Mr. Taylor
 should have considered not writing about new country music?  And then to
 single out Martina McBride as a noble exception, while backhanding Alison...
 What a maroon

I can never understand the popularity of Martina McBride. To me she is
blandness personified. Maybe that's the answer.

I happen to think that Kelly Willis' Nashville stuff is pretty exceptional.
Bang Bang, I'll Try Again, Shadows Of Love, Sincerely, World Without You. You
have to say that Nashville had a hand in creating some pretty amazing music
here. If you look at select parts of Nashville output you can get a pretty good
selection of music. How about 455 Rocket or A Lover Is Forever? I'll never
write off Nashville as being a place that can put out something to knock your
socks off every now and then. I mean it's not like I like *all* alt.country.
Nashville gets a lot of criticisms around here, so I thought I'd add my
'friendly' opinion.

The Alison Krauss comment was pathetic.

Louise

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