RE: SUV's suck

1999-03-10 Thread NancyApple

Greeting from Memphis, the car-jack car-stealin rape capitol of America

SUV's suck. I can fit my PA, 2 guitars, small amp, and even a 3 piece drum kit
in my 62 Mercury (and the dingle balls, hula girl, black power air freshener,
and dice look pretty fabulous driving down the road too).

Yes, I carry a cell phone in case I get stuck in the ghetto. But if I do in my
car, I know enough about it to maybe get it going again (unless I am stupid
enpough to run out of gas got mugged once when I let that happen). But
atleast in my car, no one in the ghetto want to mess with me as much as if I
was in a brand new $500 a month SUV. Hell, they could figure out how to crank
my car! And with my neon under plate floaters, they sure as hell will be
easily spotted when I get the cops on thier ass.






Re: SUV's suck

1999-03-10 Thread Ndubb

 Good for you, and I'm glad you love your 62 Merc.  I happen to love my SUV,
 fit all my gear into it, I'm a damn good driver, and I hate Starbuck's.  
 
 This is much like the music debate, either you like it or you don't...but
 please don't try and stamp a # on my forehead and call me just another
 asshole because I drive an SUV. 


This is great. Here we are, an incredibly open minded community when it comes
to music, but quick to plug SUV drivers as a certain type. My wife owns an
Pathfinder, and I am thrilled. Unlike her last little dinky car, I like the
idea that she's got a hunk o metal around her surrounding her. Makes me feel
more at ease that she's gonna come home to me unscathed every single day. I
like that feeling when it comes to the most important thing I have going in my
life. That's worth the price and the stigma right there. 

Of course, the reason *to* bag on SUVs is because their emission standards are
lower than cars. In LA, this means the quality of air, which actually has been
improving in recent years, is on the way toward greater brownness again. To
me, that's enough of a reason to never buy one again. I don't like
contributing to the further deterioration of the air I breathe. 

Anyhoo, OBTwang, the new Alejandro is quite nice, if a bit brief. Nine songs,
half of them covers, the other half equally as engaging originals. It's mostly
acoustic rock with strings, not unlike most of the live album. 

Off to work. I got me a day job for awhile. Gone (temporarily) are the days of
sweats, slippers and cats.

Neal Weiss



RE: SUV's suck

1999-03-10 Thread Paul Kirsch



I can fit my PA, 2 guitars, small amp, and even a 3 piece drum kit
in my 62 Mercury (and the dingle balls, hula girl, black power air
freshener,
and dice look pretty fabulous driving down the road too).

OK, I can accept someone who is driving a Ford Escort station wagon to
say that SUVs are gas guzzling machines.
I'm a little more confused by somone owning a 62 Mercury trashing
SUVs.   If it's because you hate the people that
often drive them (and I won't say 'always'), that's fine.  Hopefully
you don't mind when those same people make rash judgements about you
as a slacker musician driving an old car.   (My point there isn't that
you are a slacker musician- my point is, stereotypes aren't always
true).  Sure, there are assholes who drive SUVs and there are a lot of
people who think they can handle like a car.   There are also assholes
who drive every type of car imagineable.

If you hate SUVs because they are gas guzzling machines, my guess is,
the emissions on a 62 Mercury are probably not going through a
catalytic converter so it's doing more than it's fair share of
polluting.  Plus, I doubt it's getting the 35 MPG that the Escort is.

And then we have people living in split level suburban homes bashing
SUVs.   Would those be suburban homes that either a) destroyed
farmlands b) wetlands or c) some animal habitat or just contributed to
the fact that we all need cars in the first place to drive from our
suburban sprawl to our jobs?.

How did George Jones' driving mistake turn into this conversation?
Jee-sus!


-paul
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Enough, please (was RE: SUV's suck

1999-03-10 Thread Don Yates


Please be considerate when using P2.  The great majority of folks do not
subscribe to P2 to discuss SUVs.  No doubt there are plenty of folks with
strong opinions about them, pro and con, but please try to find a more
appropriate place to vent them.  The traffic on P2 can be awfully
overwhelming, even when we stay more-or-less on-topic.--don