Re: Meat Puppets (was Re: Speaking of Noise)
I'm in "Day Late and Dollar Short" mode, I'm afraid. Steve Kirsch said: Yup, and I'd suggest further that from the second album (MP2) onwards they never really released a clunker until that horrible No Joke record. They were a hell of a band. I'm skeptical about the new lineup without Cris and Derrick, but we'll see. You have reason to be skeptical, judging from the new lineup's performance at Liberty Lunch during SXSW. They were disappointing at best, mediocre at worst, and not very much like the Meat Puppets, really. It was an unfortunate way for us to close out what had been a pretty solid, if not breathtaking, string of shows at SXSW, and an unfortunate reminder that the Meat Pups now belong to the past. --Amy
Re: Meat Puppets (was Re: Speaking of Noise)
In a message dated 4/26/99 8:11:06 PM EST, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: You have reason to be skeptical, judging from the new lineup's performance at Liberty Lunch during SXSW. They were disappointing at best, mediocre at worst, and not very much like the Meat Puppets, really. It was an unfortunate way for us to close out what had been a pretty solid, if not breathtaking, string of shows at SXSW, and an unfortunate reminder that the Meat Pups now belong to the past. Do you include the Bottle Rockets, who played right before the Pups at that same venue, in your string of breathtaking shows? I'm curious because I thought the were pretty awful, as well as arrogant as hell, refusing to play *any* old material at all and practically taunting they they were twangless. What was left was southern and crotch rock not unlike Radar Gun, which is the band at its worst. imho. And then there was that one song that was so rudimentary in its rhymes that you had to wonder if it was real. Me and Copetas sure had fun playing "guess the next line" during that one, which I don't think was the reaction the band had intended. Suddenly venomous, Neal Weiss
Re: Meat Puppets (was Re: Speaking of Noise)
Neal: Do you include the Bottle Rockets, who played right before the Pups at that same venue, in your string of breathtaking shows? I'm curious because I thought the were pretty awful, as well as arrogant as hell, refusing to play *any* old material at all and practically taunting they they were twangless. What was left was southern and crotch rock not unlike Radar Gun, which is the band at its worst. imho. And then there was that one song that was so rudimentary in its rhymes that you had to wonder if it was real. Me and Copetas sure had fun playing "guess the next line" during that one, which I don't think was the reaction the band had intended. I was afraid that sentence would be read wrong; I should have said "a pretty solid, *though* not breathtaking, string of shows" What I meant, in fact, was that very little that I saw at SXSW knocked my socks off. I thought Hayseed was wonderful, even though I left in the middle to go see the Damnations), and Hillbilly IDOL, who I saw only at an in-store, were a highlight, as were Slobberbone, Amy Rigby, the Meat Pervs, and a few other acts. But I saw a lot of fine-but-ordinary shows too. And though I didn't feel as venomous about them as Neal did, I thought the Bottle Rockets were definitely "off" at Liberty Lunch that night. Robbie Fulks, who preceded them, was a pleasure, as always, and Reckless Kelly, who preceded him, were much better than I'd expected. But the BRox were a big letdown, as were the Meat Puppets. --Amy
Speaking of Noise
I've finally gotten around to listening to the Rykodisc reissue of the first Meat Puppets album - with 18 (!) bonus tracks - and I'm really digging it but I forgot how brutal it is at times. For those on the list who find Freakwater unlistenable - I'd be curious how long you'd listen to this before ripping it out of the CD player. Now, I realize that the Meat Puppets wave(d) their punk flag much higher than Freakwater ever has but I've always thought of both bands as rock and roll bands with country tendencies. Tony - who once upon a time lived on a steady diet of the Germs, Void, Discharge, Venom, Throbbing Gristle, SPK, James Chance and the Contortions, Half Japanese, and a boatload of other noise. Tony Lombardi [EMAIL PROTECTED] n.p. - Meat Puppets - Meat Puppets
Re: Speaking of Noise
Tony - who once upon a time lived on a steady diet of the Germs, Void, Discharge, Venom, Throbbing Gristle, SPK, James Chance and the Contortions, Half Japanese, and a boatload of other noise. Hurrah! Oops, I meant to say: Tony, you male chauvinist pig you. carl w. (and his three best female friends, all huge Caspar Brotzmann fans)
Re: Speaking of Noise
At 04:51 PM 4/23/99 -0400, you wrote: I've finally gotten around to listening to the Rykodisc reissue of the first Meat Puppets album - with 18 (!) bonus tracks - and I'm really digging it but I forgot how brutal it is at times. For those on the list who find Freakwater unlistenable - I'd be curious how long you'd listen to this before ripping it out of the CD player. Now, I realize that the Meat Puppets wave(d) their punk flag much higher than Freakwater ever has but I've always thought of both bands as rock and roll bands with country tendencies. That album is in the collection for completion purposes only. For me, they hit their stride with Up on The Sun. Jeff Miles of Music mail order http://www.milesofmusic.com FREE printed Catalog: (818) 883-9975 fax: (818) 992-8302, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Alt-Country, rockabilly, bluegrass, folk, power pop and tons more.
Meat Puppets (was Re: Speaking of Noise)
Jeff Weiss: That album is in the collection for completion purposes only. For me, they hit their stride with Up on The Sun. Yup, and I'd suggest further that from the second album (MP2) onwards they never really released a clunker until that horrible No Joke record. They were a hell of a band. I'm skeptical about the new lineup without Cris and Derrick, but we'll see. Steve Kirsch [EMAIL PROTECTED] np: Replacements--"Stink" EP ___ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]
