How are the recelled batteries working?
Ben, how are the recelled PB 5xx batteries working? I'm thinking of doing the proceedure myself--was it worth it? And when did disco go out of style? ;- Cheers, Don the one in my 540 is dead but the re-celled batteries i'm using stillcharge. without a charged battery or AC adapter plugged in the PRAM willquickly be erased, characterised by your 'Book thinking disco is the inthing.. er, thinking it's the mid 1970s. = __ Do You Yahoo!? HotJobs - Search Thousands of New Jobs http://www.hotjobs.com -- PowerBooks is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html PowerBooks list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/powerbooks.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/powerbooks%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Powerbook 190
Thanks for the information! No there are no AA added to the serial number. I found information on the 5300/190 repair programme on Apple's website. according to that the programme last 7 years after the manufactoring has stopped. As that was in 1996 I still might have the chance to get it for free. Have to talk to a Apple shop here. Thanks for the help Georg From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (PowerBooks) To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (PowerBooks) Subject: PowerBooks Digest #970 Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2002 23:49:31 -0400 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2002 11:09:10 EDT Subject: Re: Powerbook 190 In a message dated 8/20/02 2:39:37 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Only there is a problem with the powersupply. If I move the Powerbook and the plug moves, the Powerbook gets of. Is there a way to reapir this ... If your 190 has AA added as a suffix to its serial number, it has already been through the recall for powering and other problems. One of the fixes added in that recall was to replace the motherboard OR to replace the power connector so that intermittent connections such as you describe won't happen. My 190s/5300s all have this AA and none of them have powering problems. In fact, they are completely trouble-free. I believe the 190/5300 recall is long since over. -- _ Sent by a Macintosh ( ) ASCII ribbon An Apple a day ... X campaign against Think Different / \ HTML e-mail -- PowerBooks is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html PowerBooks list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/powerbooks.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/powerbooks%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Powerbook 190
Hi Mad Dog, first I will try if an Apple shop here will do it as part of the Apple repair programme. If not, I will try that. At http://www.macfaq.net/troubleshooting.html I found short instructions how to take apart Apple computers. Thanks Georg From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (PowerBooks) To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (PowerBooks) Subject: PowerBooks Digest #970 Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2002 23:49:31 -0400 Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2002 19:19:35 -0400 From: Tom Lisa P [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Powerbook 190 In-reply-to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-id: f05001906b9887edd4b0a@[192.168.1.2] Hello all! As I am new to the list I don't know if you already talked about this, but as I heard this problem occurs quite often. I got a Powerbook 190 that is in good shape. Only there is a problem with the powersupply. If I move the Powerbook and the plug moves, the Powerbook gets of. Is there a way to reapir this. Maybe there is a instruction page somewhere in the net? Thank you in advance Georg P.S.: Hope you understand what I wannna say cause english is not my mother tongue. This sounds like the AC plug on the motherboard is loose. If you are willing to take your computer apart, it should be easy to fix with a soldering iron and a bit of solder. Mad Dog -- _ Sent by a Macintosh ( ) ASCII ribbon An Apple a day ... X campaign against Think Different / \ HTML e-mail -- PowerBooks is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html PowerBooks list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/powerbooks.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/powerbooks%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
more Powerbook 190 questions
Again thanks for all the answers! There a re some more questions concerning the Powerbook 190: - On the bottom the is a small switch with an arrow on it. Can someone tell me what is it for and at which position it should be? - On top of the screen there is a green light. It soemtimes gets on when the Powerbook is shut of and afterwards I can' start it anymore. Mostly it happens when it gets off because of the loose AC power connector. I only can push the reset button on the back with having the backlight and time changed. May this happen because the battery doesn't work anymore or may the internal battery be empty? Thanks in advance Georg -- _ Sent by a Macintosh ( ) ASCII ribbon An Apple a day ... X campaign against Think Different / \ HTML e-mail -- PowerBooks is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html PowerBooks list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/powerbooks.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/powerbooks%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: more Powerbook 190 questions
- On the bottom the is a small switch with an arrow on it. Can someone tell me what is it for and at which position it should be? When it is pushed forward this unlocks the floppy drive module which can then be removed and replaced with another device (eg ZIP drive, extra battery). - On top of the screen there is a green light. It soemtimes gets on when the Powerbook is shut of and afterwards I can' start it anymore. Mostly it happens when it gets off because of the loose AC power connector. I only can push the reset button on the back with having the backlight and time changed. May this happen because the battery doesn't work anymore or may the internal battery be empty? I'm not sure about this one, I have seen it happen though, and I think it may be battery related. Peter -- PowerBooks is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html PowerBooks list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/powerbooks.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/powerbooks%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
How can I make PB190 emergency floppy?
Dear list members, I need to make an emergency floppy for my Powerbook 190. Does anyone know of a source on the Internet? I have tried various emergency disks I have, with the proper systems, and they do not seem to work on my 190 although they work on my other old macs and the floppy drive works normally otherwise. Maybe I need a system enabler. Thanks, Aydin Yulug Ankara, Turkey -- PowerBooks is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html PowerBooks list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/powerbooks.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/powerbooks%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Need Emmpathy For my Powerbook 520
Hey all I'm in desperate need of Emmpathy does anyone know where I can find it? Thank you Gary -- PowerBooks is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html PowerBooks list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/powerbooks.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/powerbooks%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: battery power
Hi all I decieded to test the battery for myself and see how it works in the 190cs i set the monitor to 256 colours (The maximum for this book) and have so far used the Mac since 10.25 am for word docs, email, veiwing photos, and light web browsing. It is still going strong and it is 1.07pm now i will let you all know how long i got in total tonight So the 3400 LiION worked in the 190, yes, Victoria? That's v-e-r-y interesting. Someone once asked me why they don't work and, correctly, pointed out that the 190/5300s weren't ROM disabled to not recognise LiIONs, only software disabled (i.e. only from 7.5.2, Enabler 1.1 or something). I never got to try a 3400 batt in my 5300. But of course they won't charge. But so long as they work, who cares? Having both PBs is the advantage in your case. I think 3400 batts new are pretty cheap now, right? I'd be interested to know whether MyBatteryPPC recognizes the LiION. This's quite a find you've made here. Which OS are you running? 8.1? That's what our 190 ran [still runs in hands of new owner]. Pretty good web browser on 24MB RAM + Netscape 4.08. 3+ hours on a 190/5300 is not_bad_at_all :-) My Lombard batt is dead. Sigh. $130 for a replacement. *Deeper sigh* Cheers, RD Remy Davison Contributing Editor/News Editor, Insanely-Great Mac http://www.insanely-great.com mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] RD's PowerBook page: http://www.macpowerbook.com -- PowerBooks is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html PowerBooks list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/powerbooks.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/powerbooks%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: battery power
victoria Hi all I decieded to test the battery for myself and see how it works in the 190cs i set the monitor to 256 colours (The maximum for this book) and have so far used the Mac since 10.25 am for word docs, email, veiwing photos, and light web browsing. It is still going strong and it is 1.07pm now i will let you all know how long i got in total tonight So the 3400 LiION worked in the 190, yes, Victoria? That's v-e-r-y interesting. Someone once asked me why they don't work and, correctly, pointed out that the 190/5300s weren't ROM disabled to not recognise LiIONs, only software disabled (i.e. only from 7.5.2, Enabler 1.1 or something). I never got to try a 3400 batt in my 5300. But of course they won't charge. But so long as they work, who cares? Having both PBs is the advantage in your case. I think 3400 batts new are pretty cheap now, right? I'd be interested to know whether MyBatteryPPC recognizes the LiION. This's quite a find you've made here. Which OS are you running? 8.1? That's what our 190 ran [still runs in hands of new owner]. Pretty good web browser on 24MB RAM + Netscape 4.08. 3+ hours on a 190/5300 is not_bad_at_all :-) My Lombard batt is dead. Sigh. $130 for a replacement. *Deeper sigh* Cheers, RD Remy Davison Contributing Editor/News Editor, Insanely-Great Mac http://www.insanely-great.com mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] RD's PowerBook page: http://www.macpowerbook.com Hi thanks for all that? YES the 3400 l-ion battery runs my 190 for over 4 hrs on a full charge . It was not recognised by the charge indicator and only 1 of the lines flashed constantly with no time indicator either but it worked fine. the os i am running on the 190cs is 7.6.1 i did not have the 190 psu attached at all and i charged it in the 3400 fully before it was used. i would be glad to show any list member in the UK North east that it worked to prove to the list that it is not a trick. Victoria. -- -- PowerBooks is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html PowerBooks list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/powerbooks.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/powerbooks%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Need Emmpathy For my Powerbook 520
Thanks My friend After about an hour of searching I found it on a FTP site. Another problem has cropped up. Emmpathy says there is no battery in the right battery bay when I know its there. For some reason the system isn't registering the battery is there Gary -Original Message- From: PowerBooks [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of b e n w e l l s | headwerkx Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2002 5:35 AM To: PowerBooks Subject: Re: Need Emmpathy For my Powerbook 520 i can email it to you if need be... i can't remember where i found it on the 'net but i know it's not easy to find. Ben. -- PowerBooks is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html PowerBooks list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/powerbooks.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/powerbooks%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Need Emmpathy For my Powerbook 520
You'll want to try Intelligent Battery Recondition by Apple - the intelligence EMM circuit in 500 series batteries were prone to corruption, rendering the battery unusable. Download from: http://download.info.apple.com/Apple_Support_Area/Apple_Software_Updates/Eng lish-North_American/Macintosh/PowerBook/Other_PB_SW/ and put the battery in the right hand side compartment and run the app, it should fix things so that EMMpathy can then do its thing too. If IBR cracks the poo swear at it, rip the battery out aggressively, then jam it back in with determination; 500 series batteries can be problematic and can smell your fear. Show it who's boss and usually it'll give in. If not, consider re-celling the pack. Unless of course you're made of money and don't mind burning US$300 on 2 new packs Ben. - Original Message - From: Gary E Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PowerBooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 22, 2002 12:59 AM Subject: Re: Need Emmpathy For my Powerbook 520 Thanks My friend After about an hour of searching I found it on a FTP site. Another problem has cropped up. Emmpathy says there is no battery in the right battery bay when I know its there. For some reason the system isn't registering the battery is there Gary -- PowerBooks is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html PowerBooks list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/powerbooks.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/powerbooks%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: 3400c Broken Latch
In a message dated 8/21/02 8:08:12 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: ... All that was left was removing the plastic bezel around the screen. Be very careful doing that ... there are small clips all around the screen that hold the bezel in place. They are easy to break, and, if you break one, the bezel won't seat properly anymore ... The latches are in the form of a tongue and a corresponding pocket. If the pocket is damaged, which is often the case, it may be repaired by using a special ABS plastic solvent-type cement: Ambroid Pro-Weld/Professional Plastic Welder/For Styrene, Butyrate, ABS and Acrylic (Lucite or Plexiglas), which is available from Ambroid, 61 Katie Road, Swanzey, NH 03446. This stuff is quite different from the usual plastic solvent-type cements, which are really intended just for styrene, and to a really poor job on ABS, which almost all Apple plastic parts is made of. To effect repairs, you reform the pocket to its original shape and then apply the Ambroid Pro-Weld using a very fine syringe-type applicator. Capillary action draws the solvent into the fracture. Slight pressure results in a fusion-type weld that is actually stronger than the material itself. The open time (the time you have to work the joint being repaired) is quite short, but you DO have enough time to correct for slight misalignment. I've repaired everything from broken PB case latches/pockets to a nearly 100 percent cracked Color LaserWriter case, all with great success. -- PowerBooks is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html PowerBooks list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/powerbooks.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/powerbooks%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: How can I make PB190 emergency floppy?
Dear Aydin. I have an emergency disk for 190. The 190s need an 'enabler' with the older OSes, I dont rember from when it was no longer necessary, somebody on the list knew some time ago. I have never used it. I got the Norton programme and created a Disk Doctor start disk that I use regularly with the 190s. This keeps everything in order and very stable. That disk is worn and I am going to create a new one. I coud make one for you and send along with the Apple emergency disk. Send me your address off-list and I can mail it/them to you when I get the time. (BTW, re 190 issues recently. I think the the 190 (b/w passive screen) is the best palmtop in the world, runs 3 hours on its old battery. One summertime trick is to sit in the sun and turn the backlight off and type clever things in the back of the garden sipping own-made elder-flower juice with ice (only adding the gin just before knocking off!). This one can make idle the otherwise beloved 1400c G3) Christopher Denmark I need to make an emergency floppy for my Powerbook 190. Does anyone know of a source on the Internet? I have tried various emergency disks I have, with the proper systems, and they do not seem to work on my 190 although they work on my other old macs and the floppy drive works normally otherwise. Maybe I need a system enabler. Thanks, Aydin Yulug -- PowerBooks is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html PowerBooks list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/powerbooks.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/powerbooks%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Printer issues with 8.1
Okay, I've tried both of these suggestions, and restarted the machine after all tries, and nothing's worked. I also tried putting the items in both the previous and then the current system folders extension files (haven't consolidated yet) and restarting, to no avail (my computer is using some things from the previous folder and some from the current - messy!). I put them in where all the rest of the printers that show up in the Chooser are hanging out, and they have the same type chooser extension, yet the Chooser is still not seeing them. Honestly, having never had to re-install any sort of printer on a Mac since about 1984, I'm still stumped. This is one of those things that makes me realize I've huge gaps in my knowledge, and that I need to learn a bit more patience. I've only been back with this newer Mac a bit over a year, but do love it dearly and forever. I'll keep trying to figure this out and go back online and download the drivers again, in case I messed that up somehow... I know it will just take some more figurin' time. Luckily, no papers due yet... ;-) What I am wondering is if Apple expected when someone was either buying a system with 8.x new on it or upgraded, they were also getting a better printer and tossing their trusty old StyleWriters.Whoops! Not me! (Gosh, maybe I'll make a plea to my dad to borrow his Epson 1200! ha!) Thanks for the help. I'll keep at it and you all will hear a whoop of delight if I get it figured out. BTW, loved the disco story. LOL! Aly 1400cs w/ OS 8.1 that isnt' seeing my Stylewriter II =-( Chris Loehr wrote: stash them in the extensions folder in the system folder, reboot and they should be in your chooser. Chris Jim Arnott wrote: The printer CCLs go in the Printer Descriptions folder in the Extensions folder. Reboot and they should show up in the CHooser. Jim -- PowerBooks is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html PowerBooks list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/powerbooks.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/powerbooks%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Powerbook 190
Georg Portenkirchner wrote: Thanks for the information! No there are no AA added to the serial number. I found information on the 5300/190 repair programme on Apple's website. according to that the programme last 7 years after the manufactoring has stopped. As that was in 1996 I still might have the chance to get it for free. Have to talk to a Apple shop here. Sorry. The RMA program ended the begining of June this year. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- PowerBooks is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html PowerBooks list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/powerbooks.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/powerbooks%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: My PB 1400 won't turn off!
Just a thought - Have you tried the shutdown folder? There's nothing in the Startup or Shutdown Items folders. The problem also occurs before any OS has loaded. -- PowerBooks is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html PowerBooks list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/powerbooks.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/powerbooks%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Emmpathy?
I'm a PB newbie. Just what is Emmpathy? Do I need it for my Duo 280? Dick -- PowerBooks is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html PowerBooks list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/powerbooks.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/powerbooks%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Regarding PB520 and batteries
Just a big thank you to the List and everyone here.. Thanks to you out of two batteries I seem to have recovered one. Thanks Gary -- PowerBooks is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html PowerBooks list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/powerbooks.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/powerbooks%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Emmpathy?
I'm a PB newbie. Just what is Emmpathy? Do I need it for my Duo 280? EMMpathy is a utility for fixing the EMM circuit on 500 series intelligent batteries, which is susceptible to corruption and can make the battery impossible to charge. EMMpathy's own documentation makes no mention of Duos and considering the Duos are an older line they use the earlier dumb battery packs and thus have no use for EMMpathy. If your battery seems to hold very little charge, which is likely given its age, an app like BatteryAmnesia might be able to recondition the battery by removing the nicad memory effect over several software-controlled battery drain sequences. This helped out my g/f's PB150 battery a fair bit. Ben. -- PowerBooks is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html PowerBooks list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/powerbooks.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/powerbooks%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
1400 Trackpad/Cursor Woes
My 1400 (OS 9.2) seems to think I'm clicking and dragging almost constantly when all I'm doing is moving the cursor (same thing happens with an external mouse attached). It sometimes freaks out and thinks I've pressed the button a dozen times when I only press it once and sometimes it doesn't register me clicking at all. Any ideas ? I've tried all the tips off Apple's website - is my only hope a clean re-install of OS 9 ? -- PowerBooks is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html PowerBooks list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/powerbooks.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/powerbooks%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Emmpathy?
At 10:19 AM -0700 8/21/02, Dick Johnson wrote: I'm a PB newbie. Just what is Emmpathy? Do I need it for my Duo 280? 500 series batteries only. BTW, try the Duo/2400 list for good information on your 280. See below. Paul Duo/2400 List, The friendliest place on the Net! A listserv for users and fans of Mac subportables. FAQ at http://www.themacintoshguy.com/lists/DuoListFAQ.shtml They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin, 1759. For insomnia, http://www.kgoam810.com/ For news: http://lists.alternet.org/headlines and http://www.bear-left.com/links.html -- PowerBooks is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html PowerBooks list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/powerbooks.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/powerbooks%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
PowerBook 500 series stuff
I have a few important PowerBook 500 series items available at 63.104.169.60 and anyone is welcome to download what they need there. Please respect any copyrights. Thanks, Victor -- PowerBooks is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html PowerBooks list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/powerbooks.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/powerbooks%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
HELP!!!! 3400c won't start!!!!
Howdy, It's me, the guy with the broken latch. I want to first say thank you to everyone that has responded to my previous problem. It sounds like something simple to fix and I will probably fix it for sure after I get this major problem resolved. On with the show. Ok, here is the deal. I was surfing the net last night with no problems. I shut my machine down the correct way with the power button and went to bed. I got up this morning went to work and came home to my beloved 3400c. I lift the lid and pressed the power button..nothing. So I went about trouble shootingI tried starting it with the keyboard reset configuration or what some call the vulcan death grip. That didn't work. Next, I pressed the reset button on the back, that didn't work. I unplugged and plugged the battery and power cable, that didn't work. I opened up the machine to check to see if the keyboard came loose, it didn't. I checked to see if the RAM had came loose, it didn't. I plugged a keyboard into the adb port, that didn't work. So now I am at a loss. Fortunately I have another computer that I can use to get online with. I hope someone can point me towards something that I haven't tried yet. Thanks, Jamie -- PowerBooks is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html PowerBooks list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/powerbooks.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/powerbooks%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: HELP!!!! 3400c won't start!!!!
Remove battery Unplug power supply Press and hold reset button for 30 seconds Replace battery Hook up power supply Let it cook for an hour or so Restart. Jim jamie Scruggs wrote: Ok, here is the deal. I was surfing the net last night with no problems. I shut my machine down the correct way with the power button and went to bed. I got up this morning went to work and came home to my beloved 3400c. I lift the lid and pressed the power button..nothing. So I went about trouble shootingI tried starting it with the keyboard reset configuration or what some call the vulcan death grip. That didn't work. Next, I pressed the reset button on the back, that didn't work. I unplugged and plugged the battery and power cable, that didn't work. I opened up the machine to check to see if the keyboard came loose, it didn't. I checked to see if the RAM had came loose, it didn't. I plugged a keyboard into the adb port, that didn't work. So now I am at a loss. -- PowerBooks is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html PowerBooks list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/powerbooks.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/powerbooks%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: My PB 1400 won't turn off!
Just a thought - Have you tried the shutdown folder? There's nothing in the Startup or Shutdown Items folders. The problem also occurs before any OS has loaded. It's likely an extension conflict somewhere, that is keeping the finder from quitting. Mine just started to do this too, I've recently added a handful of things to an already loaded system, and I've not had time to track it down. B -- -- PowerBooks is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html PowerBooks list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/powerbooks.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/powerbooks%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: HELP!!!! 3400c won't start!!!!
Thanks Jim for the advice. I tried it and it didn't work. Would you or anyone else have an idea to what would cause the computer to not start up after working just fine the day before? I haven't a clue myself. Thanks, Jamie -- PowerBooks is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html PowerBooks list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/powerbooks.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/powerbooks%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Turning RAM Disk into Start-up Disk?
Greetings: The Battery Tips file in my PB 190 recommends creating a RAM disk as a startup disk to knock down running the hard drive all the time, as well as use mostly text editors over word processors to kill constant disk access. I know how to create a RAM Disk of course, but what's the minimum required files needed to turn it into a startup disk and is it really that effective? Thanks all! James Greenidge -- PowerBooks is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html PowerBooks list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/powerbooks.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/powerbooks%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: HELP!!!! 3400c won't start!!!!
on 8/22/02 12:42 AM, jamie at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks Jim for the advice. I tried it and it didn't work. Would you or anyone else have an idea to what would cause the computer to not start up after working just fine the day before? I haven't a clue myself. Thanks, Jamie Maybe the logic board...that's what happened to me! John -- PowerBooks is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html PowerBooks list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/powerbooks.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/powerbooks%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: PowerBook 520 questions
What and where is the PCMCIA software? I have looked at Apple's site with no successI have a rev B adapter for a 33mhz upgraded 520c. -- JSH From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (PowerBooks) Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2002 23:49:31 -0400 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (PowerBooks) Subject: PowerBooks Digest #970 How about using the PCMCIA like slot in the left battery compartment? IF you're looking deep into the compartment to see it, you need the PCMCIA adapter, comes in three varieties model A, B, and C. If you have the adapter already (IE you've got two slots on the side of the thing) all you need is the PCMCIA adapter software from Apple, and any 16-bt card with a mac-compatible driver will work. This includes flash adapters (no software needed) many modems, some ethernet adapters, and allegedly wirelss cards like the orinoco silver, though I've yet to be able to get mine to work properly on my 540C. The adapters are available, and you'll need the model C if you ever want to upgrade to the powerpc CPU upgrade (and they're priced accordingly), but if you're not, the A or B models will work. The B model is better than the A, as it fixed some bugs. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- PowerBooks is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html PowerBooks list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/powerbooks.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/powerbooks%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Need Emmpathy For my Powerbook 520
Hi Gary Could I have the addy of the ftp site? regards, Ry. - Original Message - From: Gary E Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PowerBooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 22, 2002 12:59 AM Subject: Re: Need Emmpathy For my Powerbook 520 Thanks My friend After about an hour of searching I found it on a FTP site. Another problem has cropped up. Emmpathy says there is no battery in the right battery bay when I know its there. For some reason the system isn't registering the battery is there Gary -Original Message- From: PowerBooks [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of b e n w e l l s | headwerkx Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2002 5:35 AM To: PowerBooks Subject: Re: Need Emmpathy For my Powerbook 520 i can email it to you if need be... i can't remember where i found it on the 'net but i know it's not easy to find. Ben. -- PowerBooks is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html PowerBooks list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/powerbooks.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/powerbooks%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com -- PowerBooks is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html PowerBooks list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/powerbooks.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/powerbooks%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: PowerBook 520 questions
In a message dated 8/21/02 9:03:09 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: What and where is the PCMCIA software? I have looked at Apple's site with no successI have a rev B adapter for a 33mhz upgraded 520c. It is catalogued under PC Card support. -- PowerBooks is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html PowerBooks list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/powerbooks.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/powerbooks%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: HELP!!!! 3400c won't start!!!!
I think I just read somewhere that someone had a similar problem and the cause turned out to be the power module. What is a power module, I'm not that familiar with the inner workings of my Power Book, is that like the power supply in a desktop computer? How difficult would it be to swap out? About the previous fix by resetting the computer, I tried holding the reset button in for about 45 seconds then reinstalled the battery and the power cord and that didn't work. I repeated the procedure about 3 or 4 times, so I don't think it's a pram problem. So I don't know what else it could be. Thanks, jamie :) -- PowerBooks is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html PowerBooks list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/powerbooks.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/powerbooks%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Need Emmpathy For my Powerbook 520
Hi Ry The address is ftp://ftp.oleane.net/pub/mac/umich/ I downloaded Emmpathy 2.0 from there Gary -Original Message- From: PowerBooks [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Ryan Pangilinan Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2002 9:16 PM To: PowerBooks Subject: Re: Need Emmpathy For my Powerbook 520 Hi Gary Could I have the addy of the ftp site? regards, Ry. -- PowerBooks is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html PowerBooks list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/powerbooks.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/powerbooks%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Need Emmpathy For my Powerbook 520
At 9:26 PM -0700 8/21/02, Gary E Davis wrote: I downloaded Emmpathy 2.0 from there Victor Nazarian has 2.1, which works on all of the 500's. Paul They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin, 1759. For insomnia, http://www.kgoam810.com/ For news: http://lists.alternet.org/headlines and http://www.bear-left.com/links.html -- PowerBooks is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html PowerBooks list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/powerbooks.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/powerbooks%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com