Re: Different 3400 iCab ?

2004-10-09 Thread darm0k
At 05:37 PM -0700 10/09/2004, Cliff Rediger wrote:
I sort of avoid using iCab anymore
because when I "quit" it takes forever
to complete it's shut down cycle.
It sounds like the HD is searching around for something.
You have iCab set to clear the cache before quitting.  Depending on 
how much surfing you've done, this may require your Mac to delete 
thousands of files.

Set it to "Never clear".  iCab has very good cache management algorithms.
I like/prefer iCab in many ways,
though it doesn't like some pages
or seems unable to format them properly.
iCab's current CSS implementation is incomplete.  This issue will be 
addressed in the upcoming iCab 3 release.

CSS is a catch-22.  If a page is written correctly, it will render 
fine without any CSS at all.  CSS is an *enhancement*.  But in the 
tradition of poorly written HTML (Thank you MS), many web developers 
depend on CSS to fix their bad HTML layout. :\

So... Sometimes you can get a page to look better if you simply turn 
off CSS.  iCab is nice in that it has that Filter Manager.  You can 
create filters that turn off CSS (among other things) for specific 
sites.

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Re: 3400, browser, JS and no PayPal - confused!

2004-10-09 Thread darm0k
At 10:33 PM -0400 10/09/2004, Brian wrote:
A lot of people are saying Ebay works with Netscape 4.xx or 7.xx, iCab or IE
5 and OS 9.2.2 etc. When you say it works I hope you have tried "uploading a
picture" to Ebay or making a payment in Paypal. These are javascripts, that
(as of the last time I tried it, the first week of last August) DO NOT work.
Just bought the 2 DVD set of _Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy_ on 
ebay, paid for it on paypal, no issues.

9.1/ IE 5.1.  1400/G3.  CCarbonlib etc.  Java (MRJ) is disabled in 
IE prefs.  Not sure about JS.
MRJ is not involved; neither eBay nor Paypal use Java.
I'm not sure why people are using 9.2 on non-OSX machines.
Because it's a good OS and includes a hundred+ bug fixes beyond OS 
9.1, including some very important DHCP fixes.

 If someone is having trouble and it's 9.2, try making a 9.1 system folder?
This is NOT an OS issue.  It is a browser & JavaScript issue.
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Re: 3400c Etherneted To Emac

2004-10-09 Thread Ben
Ok! Thanks. Mine is 1ghz so it should work. Thanks! ~ Ben ~
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> On Sun, 2004-10-10 at 13:36, Ben wrote:
> > Hello. I am trying to hook my 3400c to my emac via ethernet cable. Is
this
> > possible? I don't want to use a router or anything. Just NIC to NIC. Is
this
> > possible? Thanks. ~ Ben ~
>
> If your eMac is one of the 800/1000MHz ones with ATI graphics
> (introduced after May 2003) or a later one, then it has an auto mdi-x
> ethernet port, and can detect if it's connected to another machine or a
> hub. You can just plug in any old cable then.
>
> If it's an earlier eMac, you'll need a crossover ethernet cable for that
> specific situation.
>
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Re: 3400c Etherneted To Emac

2004-10-09 Thread Dana Sibera
On Sun, 2004-10-10 at 13:36, Ben wrote:
> Hello. I am trying to hook my 3400c to my emac via ethernet cable. Is this
> possible? I don't want to use a router or anything. Just NIC to NIC. Is this
> possible? Thanks. ~ Ben ~

If your eMac is one of the 800/1000MHz ones with ATI graphics
(introduced after May 2003) or a later one, then it has an auto mdi-x
ethernet port, and can detect if it's connected to another machine or a
hub. You can just plug in any old cable then. 

If it's an earlier eMac, you'll need a crossover ethernet cable for that
specific situation.

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3400c Etherneted To Emac

2004-10-09 Thread Ben
Hello. I am trying to hook my 3400c to my emac via ethernet cable. Is this
possible? I don't want to use a router or anything. Just NIC to NIC. Is this
possible? Thanks. ~ Ben ~



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Re: 3400, browser, JS and no PayPal - confused!

2004-10-09 Thread Brian
FYI...
A lot of people are saying Ebay works with Netscape 4.xx or 7.xx, iCab or IE
5 and OS 9.2.2 etc. When you say it works I hope you have tried "uploading a
picture" to Ebay or making a payment in Paypal. These are javascripts, that
(as of the last time I tried it, the first week of last August) DO NOT work.
Just bought the 2 DVD set of _Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy_ on 
ebay, paid for it on paypal, no issues.

9.1/ IE 5.1.  1400/G3.  CCarbonlib etc.  Java (MRJ) is disabled in IE 
prefs.  Not sure about JS.

I'm not sure why people are using 9.2 on non-OSX machines.  If 
someone is having trouble and it's 9.2, try making a 9.1 system 
folder?

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new Kanga (3500) hard drive size, speed?

2004-10-09 Thread kaldav
Advice appreciated.
I have replaced the hard drive and now it seems to run very hot 
(i.e.- too uncomfortable for a lap). The heat is felt near the hard 
drive, and everywhere on the underside of the case. Does this sound 
normal?

I replaced the original 5 gb hard drive on my Kanga (3500 with 160 
ram, running OS 9.1) with a Fujitsu Laptop 18GB 4200RPM hard drive, 
Model MHJ2181AT. It was a used drive from a Windows machine but 
formatted perfectly, partitioned into 3 perfectly, and runs very 
smoothly as I am installing systems and programs on each partition. I 
am pleased with the speed and performance, but not the heat. Is there 
a cause for concern (too big a drive, wrong speed, etc.)?

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Different 3400 iCab ?

2004-10-09 Thread Cliff Rediger
I sort of avoid using iCab anymore
because when I "quit" it takes forever
to complete it's shut down cycle.
It sounds like the HD is searching around for something.
This may have begun when I upgraded to 9.1
I don't recall.
I like/prefer iCab in many ways,
though it doesn't like some pages
or seems unable to format them properly.
But, I'm wondering if there's an easy fix
 for this shut down problem.
Thank you.
Cliff
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Re: 3400, browser, JS and no PayPal - confused!

2004-10-09 Thread maxtek
I posted almost the same question on the iMac list a month or so ago. I
downloaded probably every conceivable browser for my machine (iMac G3
running OS 9.2.2). After a considerable amount of trial and error I found
the best browser that works the best with Ebay and Paypal is Mozilla 1.2.1.

http://www.mozilla.org/releases/old-releases-1.1-1.4rc3.html

(The newer version of Mozilla won't upload pics to Ebay when your selling
something).

The only problems I have found with this version is it quits for no reason
or quits when you go to the "bookmark" menu. This doesn't always happen but
when it does a restart of the Mac usually clears it up.

If your interested I posted this question a while back on the 'fritter. You
can read it here:

http://www.applefritter.com/node/view/3573

MaxTek


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Re: 3400, browser, JS and no PayPal - confused!

2004-10-09 Thread maxtek
FYI...

A lot of people are saying Ebay works with Netscape 4.xx or 7.xx, iCab or IE
5 and OS 9.2.2 etc. When you say it works I hope you have tried "uploading a
picture" to Ebay or making a payment in Paypal. These are javascripts, that
(as of the last time I tried it, the first week of last August) DO NOT work.

Sure Ebay looks fine in Netscape 7.x (but is terribly slow using a phone
modem) but technically DOES NOT WORK since one of the most important
features just sits there and does nothing. An Ebay listing without a picture
is pretty useless. Sure I can set up an outside account and host my own
pictures, but that entails more steps that Ebay has provisions for.

The same goes for Paypal. I was loading the first page fine, but when I
tried to make payments etc. Netscape 7 was crapping out again.

So if Ebay and Paypal have fixed these problems than I apologize but if they
haven't I wouldn't say they render these sites fine with OS 9.2.2.

So what DOES WORK? What works and has worked for me and my friends is
Mozilla 1.2.1.

We have been selling on Ebay, uploading pics to Ebay and making payments,
withdrawing money etc. with Paypal. The only glitches I have found is a
couple of javascripts in Ebay. One is the "preview description" link. It is
right under the area where you write your description. I could care less
about this glitch because you just have to go to the next page to see it
previewed and if there is a problem you can hit the back button.

MaxTek


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Re: 1400c RAM

2004-10-09 Thread Clark Martin
At 2:26 PM -0400 10/9/04, W. Adrian D'Alessio ( FluxStringer ) wrote:
I realize that you're talking about physical ram, but what about
RamDoubler?  I've got it installed in my 5300 and the system
profiler tells me that I have 56meg installed with 112meg available.
Would that help his memory problem?
__
I'll try it, but my experience years ago with a 630CD Performa come 
to mind as a general slowdown.  Isn't it
just a virtual memory patch ?  All that Hard Drive clicking can make 
a person depressed.  :-)
Virtual Memory on a PPC machine is a lot better than a 68K machine. 
More so if you are running OS 8.0 and later.

And yes, RAM Doubler is a form of Virtual memory.   The other thing 
with using Virtual memory is it makes the loading of libraries more 
efficient so you don't need to use as much RAM.
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Re: 1400c RAM

2004-10-09 Thread Cameron Kaiser
> I realize that you're talking about physical ram, but what about 
> RamDoubler?  I've got it installed in my 5300 and the system 
> profiler tells me that I have 56meg installed with 112meg available. 
> Would that help his memory problem?

RD is very handy on the 1400 (I use RD9), but it is most useful for a
situation where you have a large number of applications requiring a
cumulative amount of RAM, as RD can rob Peter to pay Paul in those cases
if applications are inefficiently using their respective allocations.
However, RD's RAM redistribution can't help a situation where one large
application requests a large memory space; in that case, it will either
compress memory (depending on the version of RD; RD9 can do this), or it
will fall back on its own VM algorithm, which is faster and more thrifty
of hard disk space than Apple VM, but still sucks.

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Re: 1400c RAM

2004-10-09 Thread Cameron Kaiser
> RAM doubler doesn't actually double your RAM.  It just uses hard drive 
> space as ram.
> You can already do that with the Memory control panel.

Not quite true. RD9, at least, also can compress memory, and RD has always
been able to steal RAM allocated to other applications that aren't using it.
After all these fail, then it falls back on hard disk virtual memory, but
even that isn't quite the same:

> The Apple version is slower, but also free.
> RAM Doubler is slightly faster.

... in addition to being faster, RD does not require a baseline VM allocation
on the disk, i.e. Apple VM will require 1MB of the hard disk per MB of real
RAM, plus an additional 1MB, to enable VM at its lowest setting and RD does
not. On my 1400cs/G3+333 with 60MB physical RAM, Apple VM required 61MB of
hard disk space just to give me the minimal VM allocation of 1MB (in other
words, just simply to turn it on with -no- extra VM!) RD has no such
restriction, and I was able to instantly reclaim that space (a boon on smaller
hard disks) in addition to its faster paging algorithm.

> Nothing will come close to actual RAM.

Fully agreed. :)

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Re: 1400c RAM and 1400c Hard Disk

2004-10-09 Thread Cameron Kaiser
> As stated, the PB1400 supports up to 64MB of RAM. If you 'Book came 
> with 12MB as new, then it will only support up to 60MB (unless you can 
> find a replacement Apple 8MB card to swap for the 4MB one that came 
> with your machine).

Actually, even this won't work reliably. If you have multiple stackable
cards installed with the 8MB Apple module in a machine that originally had
4MB, you'll get multiple inexplicable RAM errors at startup. This is why
my 1400 is stuck at 60MB, too -- it was a 1400cs/117 originally and that's
exactly what happened. Others on this list have also observed this phenomenon.

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Re: 3400, browser, JS and no PayPal - confused!

2004-10-09 Thread COCCORP
I am late on this one, but...

I access PayPal all the time on my  550c, 1400c, 2400c, and 3400c using IE 
5.1, via a wifi connection...

Craig W. (on a 1400c/400 wifi'd by Proxim WaveLAN)
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1400c RAM and 1400c Hard Disk

2004-10-09 Thread Grant Baxter
As stated, the PB1400 supports up to 64MB of RAM. If you 'Book came 
with 12MB as new, then it will only support up to 60MB (unless you can 
find a replacement Apple 8MB card to swap for the 4MB one that came 
with your machine).

The hard disk tray has a small metal tab on the left side that slips in 
to the same part of the case that you have to push the orange hard 
drive cable unto. The cable should fold up and be easy to push up into 
the side of the case (I know it sounds weird, but basically the cable 
gets stored in the side of the case), and then the metal tab slips into 
the hole where you just pushed the cable.

Speaker grill - yes, they are all interchangeable.
Just in case any of you are interested, I have a PowerBook 1400 
Frequently Asked Questions document online that should answer these 
questions (and more). It is at: 
http://www.freshfiltered.com/MacFAQ/PB1400FAQ.html

Hewligan
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Re: 1400c

2004-10-09 Thread Jeff Hubatka
From: Nathan Templeton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: 1400c
R. A. Cantrell wrote:
Bookies,
   Looks like I'm going to have to try re-assemble a 1400c 
that was
not put together when I got it, and I'm lost in the dark (again). Is 
there a
HD bracket of some kind or does the HD just sit in that space under 
the
keyboard kinda loose? Is the speaker grill switchable with any other 
model?
as this one is definitely broken.


  There isn't a bracket as far as I know.. At least the two I owned
didn't.. The speaker grill is the same across all the models..
-hth
-nathan
The 1400 HD sits in a metal bracket, it's very thin sheet metal. The 
speaker grilles are all the same.

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Re: 3400, browser, JS and no PayPal & no Flash

2004-10-09 Thread darm0k
At 08:31 AM -0700 10/09/2004, Mac wrote:
BTW, do you use the MRJ Beta5(v1.0b5) plug-in for
Mozilla? The Quicktime (v5.02) plug-in? 
Any others I should get?
In Mozilla:Plug-ins, I have the Default stub, MRJPlugin 1.0b5, and 
Shockwave Flash NP-PPC 7.0r19.  That's it.

From System Folder:Plug-ins, Moz picks up QuickTime Plugin 6.0.3.
FWIW, I think installing QuickTime 6 is one of the worst things I 
ever did.  I should have stuck with QT 5.0.2 (which shipped with OS 
9).  QT 6 is slow crap.  The mpegs I have now play at only 80% of 
their prior frame rate.  And I'm totally unable to view DivX files. 
I installed QT 6 because I wanted mpeg-4 support.  But it's so slow, 
my mpeg-4 videos are unwatchable.  Instead I use a 200-MHz PC laptop.

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Re: 3400, browser, JS and no PayPal - confused!

2004-10-09 Thread darm0k
At 08:43 AM -0400 10/08/2004, Kenneth Vann top posted:
iCab, cannot [etc; in PayPal]
What iCab settings are you using?  Are you identifying as iCab or 
spoofing as another browser?  Do you have "access referrer" checked? 
Do the operations still fail if you set both the browser and 
javascript identities to iCab?


In iCab, eBay will lock up computer with large amounts of disk activity
and expand ram usage ( from 3-4mb to 40+ mb) when you have more that 3 tabs
open. This experience was with a PB1400/G3/466 upgrade and OS 8.6 & 9.1 and
an iMac/rev a, with OS8.6 and 256mb ram (with iMac its about 5 tabs open
before I get problems). With more than three tabs open, it can take up to 5
minutes of disk activity to open or close a tab.
I cannot reproduce this, under OS 8.6 or 9.2.2.  Do you have specific URLs?

When I created filters to cut down on some of the advertisements, ebay
started downloading 5k and 10k PDF files which were  the ads I was trying
to block.
I cannot reproduce this.  Pls email to me detailed settings, a copy 
of this filter, and the URLs involved.

Thx,
- Dan.
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PB 180 on a mixed network

2004-10-09 Thread Beniamino Cenci Goga
I connected my PB 180 to my home network using an 
Asantè SCSI-Ethernet adaptor. It sees the 
network, including the G5 athough it cannot mount 
the G5 HD for obious protocol reasons.

BTW.
I installed MacTCP and now I am playing with the 
settings to see if I can manage to get this PB 
180 on the web.

These are the home network settings, from my G5:
Interface:  en1
  Type: AirPort
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  Subnet Mask:  255.255.255.0
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Re: 1400c RAM

2004-10-09 Thread Dan Palka
RAM doubler doesn't actually double your RAM.  It just uses hard drive 
space as ram.

You can already do that with the Memory control panel.
The Apple version is slower, but also free.
RAM Doubler is slightly faster.
They're both very very slow solutions though.  Nothing will come close 
to actual RAM.

On Oct 9, 2004, at 1:23 PM, Howard R. Katz wrote:
I realize that you're talking about physical ram, but what about 
RamDoubler?  I've got it installed in my 5300 and the system profiler 
tells me that I have 56meg installed with 112meg available. Would that 
help his memory problem?

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Re: 1400c

2004-10-09 Thread Richard Adams
Actually, there is a bracket - it's a thin metal item that has a tab that 
fits into the side of the case and overlaps the hard drive cable. Makes it 
extremely hard to get a hard drive back in without taking the case partially 
apart or taking a chance on trying to yank the cable out from where it's 
folded up under the case.

Ciao,
Richard

From: Nathan Templeton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: "PowerBooks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "PowerBooks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: 1400c
Date: Sat, 09 Oct 2004 19:43:16 +0300
R. A. Cantrell wrote:
Bookies,
   Looks like I'm going to have to try re-assemble a 1400c that 
was
not put together when I got it, and I'm lost in the dark (again). Is there 
a
HD bracket of some kind or does the HD just sit in that space under the
keyboard kinda loose? Is the speaker grill switchable with any other 
model?
as this one is definitely broken.


 There isn't a bracket as far as I know.. At least the two I owned 
didn't.. The speaker grill is the same across all the models..

-hth
-nathan
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Re: 1400c RAM

2004-10-09 Thread W. Adrian D'Alessio ( FluxStringer )


-Original Message-
From: "Howard R. Katz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Oct 9, 2004 2:23 PM
To: PowerBooks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: 1400c RAM

On Sat, 9 Oct 2004, Andrew Kershaw wrote:
>> 64 MB is the max, barring some uncorroborated reports on hacks that would 
>> get you to 80 megs.
>
> Actually, the memory controller can only address 64MB of RAM.  It's the same 
> as in the 5300, AFAIK, and both can accept 64+MB of RAM, but only 64MB will 
> be used.
>
> Peace,
> Drew


I realize that you're talking about physical ram, but what about 
RamDoubler?  I've got it installed in my 5300 and the system 
profiler tells me that I have 56meg installed with 112meg available. 
Would that help his memory problem?


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I'll try it, but my experience years ago with a 630CD Performa come to mind as a 
general slowdown.  Isn't it 
just a virtual memory patch ?  All that Hard Drive clicking can make a person 
depressed.  :-)

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Re: 1400c RAM

2004-10-09 Thread Howard R. Katz
On Sat, 9 Oct 2004, Andrew Kershaw wrote:
64 MB is the max, barring some uncorroborated reports on hacks that would 
get you to 80 megs.
Actually, the memory controller can only address 64MB of RAM.  It's the same 
as in the 5300, AFAIK, and both can accept 64+MB of RAM, but only 64MB will 
be used.

Peace,
Drew

I realize that you're talking about physical ram, but what about 
RamDoubler?  I've got it installed in my 5300 and the system 
profiler tells me that I have 56meg installed with 112meg available. 
Would that help his memory problem?

Later.Howard

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Re: 1400c RAM

2004-10-09 Thread Andrew Kershaw
Is 64 MB the end of the line here ? Or just the limit at the time 
the machine was new?
The CPU is the stock 166 MHz.
64 MB is the max, barring some uncorroborated reports on hacks that 
would get you to 80 megs.
Actually, the memory controller can only address 64MB of RAM.  It's 
the same as in the 5300, AFAIK, and both can accept 64+MB of RAM, but 
only 64MB will be used.

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Re: 1400c RAM

2004-10-09 Thread Tom and Lisa P
Hi Listers !
My 1400c has 40 MB of RAM.  I need to max this out so I can use  OS 
9.1 ( I know, it's a HOG )and do some minor work with Photoshop or 
run iTunes.

Is 64 MB the end of the line here ? Or just the limit at the time 
the machine was new?
The CPU is the stock 166 MHz.

Opinions as to the best configuration of chips ?
These seem to be harder to find.
TIA
Adrian
64 MB is the max, barring some uncorroborated reports on hacks that 
would get you to 80 megs.

The best configuration is a stackable 32 and 24 card set, and nothing 
in the apple RAM slot.

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1400c RAM

2004-10-09 Thread W. Adrian D'Alessio ( FluxStringer )

Hi Listers !

My 1400c has 40 MB of RAM.  I need to max this out so I can use  OS 9.1 ( I know, it's 
a HOG )and do some minor work with Photoshop or run iTunes. 

Is 64 MB the end of the line here ? Or just the limit at the time the machine was new?
The CPU is the stock 166 MHz. 

Opinions as to the best configuration of chips ?

These seem to be harder to find.

TIA 

Adrian

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Re: 1400c

2004-10-09 Thread Nathan Templeton
R. A. Cantrell wrote:
Bookies,
   Looks like I'm going to have to try re-assemble a 1400c that was
not put together when I got it, and I'm lost in the dark (again). Is there a
HD bracket of some kind or does the HD just sit in that space under the
keyboard kinda loose? Is the speaker grill switchable with any other model?
as this one is definitely broken.
 

 There isn't a bracket as far as I know.. At least the two I owned 
didn't.. The speaker grill is the same across all the models..

-hth
-nathan
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Re: 3400, browser, JS and no PayPal & no Flash

2004-10-09 Thread Mac
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> At 01:56 PM -0700 10/08/2004, Mac wrote:
> >Although I didn't do conclusive testing to proove
> it
> >(if that is even possible),  I have the distinct
> >impression that all these browsers on my macs are
> more
> >stable, freeze & crash less, when Flash is not
> >installed.  Anyone else have this impression or is
> it
> >just a figment?
> 
> Not a figment.  A proven fact, IMO. :)

Thanks for the confirmation, Dan.
Maybe that's why I have less issues with eBay and
PayPal on IE & iCab.  ie, no Flash.
The only real issue I had and why I originially posted
was Gmail (ActiveX).  And Mozilla took care of that. 
Yahoo mail is even doable on iCab now although not
perfect.  I did try downloading one of the Yahoo iCab
bits for the Filter Manager from  Rob's site but it
didn't seem to make any difference.  There was an
instruction to go to a yahoo mail URL only once to get
it to work:



but I didn't understand the logic even though I tried
it.  Maybe I didn't have all the identity settings
right but if that was the case I would have thought
that Rob would specify the correct settings if it
mattered.

BTW, do you use the MRJ Beta5(v1.0b5) plug-in for
Mozilla? The Quicktime (v5.02) plug-in?  
Any others I should get?



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1400c

2004-10-09 Thread R. A. Cantrell
Bookies,
Looks like I'm going to have to try re-assemble a 1400c that was
not put together when I got it, and I'm lost in the dark (again). Is there a
HD bracket of some kind or does the HD just sit in that space under the
keyboard kinda loose? Is the speaker grill switchable with any other model?
as this one is definitely broken.
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Re: 3400, browser, JS and no PayPal - confused!

2004-10-09 Thread darm0k
At 01:56 PM -0700 10/08/2004, Mac wrote:
Although I didn't do conclusive testing to proove it
(if that is even possible),  I have the distinct
impression that all these browsers on my macs are more
stable, freeze & crash less, when Flash is not
installed.  Anyone else have this impression or is it
just a figment?
Not a figment.  A proven fact, IMO. :)
Back when iCab 2.9.8 was first released, I did some comparison 
testing using both iCab and Moz.  In addition to the speed problem, 
there are definately memory leak and stack corruption bugs in the 
Flash plug-in.  I sent full bug reports, including stdlogs, to 
Macromedia, covering 7 versions of Flash, from 5.0r41 to 7.0r19.

iCab has other animation refresh issues with Flash, so I only have 
the plug-in installed for Moz currently.  In general, I try to quit 
Moz as soon as I've finished with a Flash site.

Flash's problems aren't limited to the plug-in.  We have purchased 
several Flash-based games from Macromedia.  Geeze are they buggy! 
You can watch them chew memory with "About this Macintosh" and Memory 
Mapper... As you play, they eat more and more memory.  They get 
slower and slower, stop responding to key presses, and eventually 
freeze up.  They crash OS 9 with a stack corruption.  They hang 
Classic under Panther.  And when run natively, they'll freeze Panther 
itself.   ...I've noticed also the PC version of one of the games we 
bought will BSOD our Dell laptop.  So I guess that means the problem 
is that Macromedia writes crap in general, not just for the Mac...

FWIW,
- Dan.
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