Re: More on my PB 190cs
I think acknowledging that we know only a small part of reality is a sign of strength. The more we understand how little we know, the closer we get to world peace, that's my conviction. But let me write a bit more on this MB: You know that all things computer are based on bits, and therefore, everything is counted in powers of 2. These days, even street kids with MP3 players think in numbers like 64, 128, 256, and 512. It's a mere coincidence that 2^10, or 1024, is so close to 1000. The closeness of these two numbers is the reason that people have started to call 1024 bytes a 'kilobyte', which literally means '1000 bytes'. And this is basically the discrepancy you have re-discovered. With 1k, the difference is tiny, but moving to MB and GB it'll be getting bigger; with Terabytes, it'll be 10%, so maybe then more people will start to notice. Ge' -- PowerBooks is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html PowerBooks list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/powerbooks.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:powerbooks@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/powerbooks%40mail.maclaunch.com/ iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com
Re: More on my PB 190cs
I think that I should pipe in here because I think if you are going to use the old hard ware on a daily basis then good for you. I still own a duo and use it for text docs on my home network and print to an old laser-writer. I also have an old classic hooked to a apple-one BW scanner and on to the laser-writer. When considering a computer you need to think what you are going to do with it and use it before you buy it. The 190 is a very nice old-world Mac and through the use of ide hdd and wifi cards also flash ram memory cards CAN be used on a daily basis, for email and docs also the myriad of 68k games that are out and about. So if you are happy with the 190 keep it working. I use a g4 ibook for daily mail and so on and if I want to do something that needs screen size and loads of memory I use my G4 sawtooth, but still like to get the duo out and use it because it is very easy on the eye with the mono screen, If I had a 190 I would use that in-place of the duo. And I am always looking for old books to do up and give to family and friends. vicki -- PowerBooks is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html PowerBooks list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/powerbooks.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:powerbooks@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/powerbooks%40mail.maclaunch.com/ iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com
Re: More on my PB 190cs
Fluxstringer wrote: You know, this list is just as well-behaved as the comp.lang.tcl newsgroup. It's a pleasure to beg you guys for help :-). jp _ I guy that uses a PB 190 for serious work deserves all the help he can get ! ;^ D Hey, don't laugh at the 190 users. I still use my old 190 daily, and I don't even have the colour screen. Really, in all honesty, you do need at least a 603 or a G3 to do serious work, but the 68K macs are great machines for text editing. My words of wisdom, John, if you can afford something with a 603 or an early G3, get one. If not, stick with the 190. After all, the worst mac beats the best Wintel box, right? CSC P.S. Yes, Fluxstringer, I also use my 190 for serious work. -- PowerBooks is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html PowerBooks list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/powerbooks.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:powerbooks@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/powerbooks%40mail.maclaunch.com/ iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com
Re: More on my PB 190cs
I agree, My brother has an old 3.1 laptop and you know a 190 is a lot better, I mean think about it, Simple Text can talk to you (if Text-To-Speech is installed) and Microsoft Word 2002 can't even do that! Hey, don't laugh at the 190 users. I still use my old 190 daily, and I don't even have the colour screen. Really, in all honesty, you do need at least a 603 or a G3 to do serious work, but the 68K macs are great machines for text editing. My words of wisdom, John, if you can afford something with a 603 or an early G3, get one. If not, stick with the 190. After all, the worst mac beats the best Wintel box, right? CSC P.S. Yes, Fluxstringer, I also use my 190 for serious work. -- Have a Nice Day! /\/ () /-\ |-| \/\/ () () |) [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- PowerBooks is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html PowerBooks list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/powerbooks.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:powerbooks@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/powerbooks%40mail.maclaunch.com/ iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com
Re: More on my PB 190cs
Caleb Cupples wrote, Hey, don't laugh at the 190 users. I still use my old 190 daily, and I don't even have the colour screen. Really, in all honesty, you do need at least a 603 or a G3 to do serious work, but the 68K macs are great machines for text editing. My words of wisdom, John, if you can afford something with a 603 or an early G3, get one. If not, stick with the 190. After all, the worst mac beats the best Wintel box, right? Hear hear on the 190!! My 190 has no color screen either, and it only got retired (very recently) because its power supply died and it cost me only about ten bucks more to get a 5300c than it would have to buy a new power supply for the 190. However, as much as I love my new 5300c, I will not only never knock the 190, but I am not selling or giving my old 190 away. If anything happens to the 5300c, I'll just use its power supply to bring back the 190. And, um, yes, there's no question I'd rather go back to my 190 than get a Windoze anything! ~Yersinia. -- PowerBooks is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html PowerBooks list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/powerbooks.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:powerbooks@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/powerbooks%40mail.maclaunch.com/ iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com
Re: More on my PB 190cs
Caleb Cupples wrote: Fluxstringer wrote: ... _ I guy that uses a PB 190 for serious work deserves all the help he can get ! ;^ D Hey, don't laugh at the 190 users. I still use my old 190 daily, and I don't even have the colour screen. Really, in all honesty, you do need at least a 603 or a G3 to do serious work, but the 68K macs are great machines for text editing. My words of wisdom, John, if you can afford something with a 603 or an early G3, get one. If not, stick with the 190. After all, the worst mac beats the best Wintel box, right? Well, this was a $20 pickup from a non-technical friend who'd kept it in a closet for 4-5 years. I also spent $13 on a CF PCcard, and many hours downloading software and learning how to use it. But from what I see, getting any higher level laptop will cost a lot more, and if I can make this one worthwhile, I'll eventually be able to convince myself that a laptop is more than just convenience (as happened with the Visor I got a couple of years ago as a gift). For now, simple text, tcl/tk programming, and a basic spreadsheet are the big help I'm looking for. As I mentioned before, my clients are tying me to Word and Excel, and don't know I'm actually using OpenOffice :-). If I get really hooked, the step up will be to an OSX Mac, or some laptop that can run linux without severe restrictions. So far, OSX seems to be the only unrestricted option less than $2000+. There are several limited linux possibilities, but maybe by the time I can't do without a laptop, a full linux will be available. Then again, OSX appears to have (according to various reviewers) some really strong advantages that linux may not be able to overcome in the near future. (Have you noticed I didn't even mention Wintel :-)? By the way, I downloaded MacTcl.bin from SourceForge, and Stuffit won't open it. It doesn't even give a message -- just sits there for two or three seconds, and goes back to idle. Anyone know what's wrong? jp -- PowerBooks is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html PowerBooks list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/powerbooks.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:powerbooks@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/powerbooks%40mail.maclaunch.com/ iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com
Re: More on my PB 190cs
Fluxstringer wrote: You know, this list is just as well-behaved as the comp.lang.tcl newsgroup. It's a pleasure to beg you guys for help :-). jp _ I guy that uses a PB 190 for serious work deserves all the help he can get ! ;^ D Hey, don't laugh at the 190 users. I still use my old 190 daily, and I don't even have the colour screen. Really, in all honesty, you do need at least a 603 or a G3 to do serious work, but the 68K macs are great machines for text editing. My words of wisdom, John, if you can afford something with a 603 or an early G3, get one. If not, stick with the 190. After all, the worst mac beats the best Wintel box, right? CSC P.S. Yes, Fluxstringer, I also use my 190 for serious work. __ I was not laughing in derision. I was laughing in empathy. I did some serious work for a University video project in the fall on my 1400. And one of my favorite and most capable computers ( another non-PC platform) has only 25 MHz processor and a huge ( LOL, for it's era) 16 MB RAM. I mean it though, to compete with newer machines on a job by job basis the oldies ( me included) need lots of help. -- Adrian -- PowerBooks is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html PowerBooks list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/powerbooks.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:powerbooks@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/powerbooks%40mail.maclaunch.com/ iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com
Re: More on my PB 190cs
Oh, and that 25 MHz machine is a 68030. Don't write back onlist . But can you guess the platform? -- PowerBooks is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html PowerBooks list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/powerbooks.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:powerbooks@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/powerbooks%40mail.maclaunch.com/ iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com
Re: More on my PB 190cs
You know, this list is just as well-behaved as the comp.lang.tcl newsgroup. It's a pleasure to beg you guys for help :-). jp _ I guy that uses a PB 190 for serious work deserves all the help he can get ! ;^ D -- Adrian -- PowerBooks is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html PowerBooks list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/powerbooks.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:powerbooks@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/powerbooks%40mail.maclaunch.com/ iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com
More on my PB 190cs
Hi John, One MB is 1,048,576 bytes, so the numbers you got were not conflicting. Ge' -- PowerBooks is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html PowerBooks list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/powerbooks.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:powerbooks@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/powerbooks%40mail.maclaunch.com/ iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com
Re: More on my PB 190cs
Ge' wrote: Hi John, One MB is 1,048,576 bytes, so the numbers you got were not conflicting. Er -- duh! (my bright red face will eventually return to its original color... :-) jp -- PowerBooks is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html PowerBooks list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/powerbooks.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:powerbooks@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/powerbooks%40mail.maclaunch.com/ iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com
Re: More on my PB 190cs
Fluxstringer wrote: If it had been a bits vs bytes issue, there would be an 8X difference. Since there's only a 5% or so issue, I don't know what the differences mean, and haven't found any enlightenment in Apple or the web yet. jp _ ASP in OS 9 doesn't report it like that. So I don't know what'd happening. I assume your HD is a sub 500 MB. I guesss the difference is in the math of the ASP for your OS. Or maybe there is some discrepency caused by headers or fragmentation.. What do other HD utilities report? Finally found Norton Disk Doctor, which reports: Mac HD 324MB on disk, 189MB available (Compact Flash) 238MB on disk, 8MB available So now my Mac HD shows 513 MB, the CF shows 246MB. Much closer to what I expected. Software update: Acrobat Reader 3.0, ResEdit 2.1.3 seem to work fine, although I still don't know how to use ResEdit. jp -- PowerBooks is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html PowerBooks list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/powerbooks.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:powerbooks@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/powerbooks%40mail.maclaunch.com/ iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com
Re: More on my PB 190cs
Software update: Acrobat Reader 3.0, ResEdit 2.1.3 seem to work fine, although I still don't know how to use ResEdit. __ go to resexcellence.com They have a lot of cool desktop tweaks to impress your Mac using but scared friends and tutorials to show how. Just remember to always modify a copy of the program part. Not your only copy unless you have an install disk handy in case of a flub. I haven't done much with is lately but still open Eudoa lite to a splash screen of major Babe Mila Jovavich's ( chick from The Fifth Element one of my SciFi faves) Luscious Lips ! And you don't need ResEdit to use their great icons. -- Adrian -- PowerBooks is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html PowerBooks list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/powerbooks.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:powerbooks@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/powerbooks%40mail.maclaunch.com/ iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com
Re: More on my PB 190cs
Ge' wrote: John, LineFeeds/word processing: I think Caleb's suggestion is good. If you have Word 5, ... All I have for the 190 is Claris, but I'll try the RTF idea. If you're more on the engineering side, I think you'll love Tex-Edit Plus. It determines paragraphs intelligently when removing LineFeeds, but it has tons of other 'text massaging' tools. And you may like its support for Apple scripting (kind of like DOS batch files, but brought to Mac OS level, and working also inside programs). I'll give it a try. Disk size: In the Finder, double-click the disk icon to open its content window. In the header of that window, you see the disk info, e.g.: 10 items 187.8 MB in disk 69 MB available If you don't see that header, you can activate it in Control Panels/Views. (This is the situation in 7.5.3. Maybe 7.5.5 is slightly different.) Well, I used 7.5.3 only to get to 7.5.5, so I can't say what 7.5.3 did, but with 7.5.5, I'm completely unable to get anything at all into the window header (this is what Windows and linux people call the title bar, right?). The Finder View menu has a size option, but it only lets me use that as a sort key. I could find nothing else in Finder except Get Info, which gives the bogus (or at least unintelligible) results I've already posted. You've likely seen the post I just sent regarding my Norton success. I couldn't find anything else that looked appropriate. looking for engineering aids and such: You're already quite self-sufficient, but why not post your needs here, in some detail? That's what the list is for! One of the big things I had in mind when i wrote that was resource files -- NIST fundamental constants, conversions, material characteristics, etc. Actually, though, the PDA handles that very nicely. One thing I gave up on with my Palm was a good interpreter. I'm pretty sure I can get a working tcl/tk for 7.5.5, and maybe something like Matlab or Octave. Or even Mathcad, if they ever wrote one for the Macs. Web browser: We had some discussion about that a few weeks ago; maybe check the archive for those posts. I think the main tips were iCab and Opera 5. But if you need good 'html 4.0 rendering and current javascript', I think the 190 won't do... I've downloaded iCab, but not opened it yet. And the point of the html 4.0 and javascript comment was not that I have an identified immediate need; it was that there are legitimate reasons for being up to date, or at least not so far behind. Acrobat Reader: If I remember correctly, I'm using version 4 on my PB, which is much more compatible than v.3 because they didn't add many features after that. Well, 3.0 is working for me now: the Apple documents about the 190 come out very well. When I went to Adobe and clicked on Mac OS7.5.5, their valid selection was 3.0. Ethernet: Right, you can't switch to Ethernet as long as you don't have it. That's the Mac way of doing things. Which seems to mean I can't do anything with Open Transport until I get a card, including updating it. But then I don't really need to until then, do I? You know, this list is just as well-behaved as the comp.lang.tcl newsgroup. It's a pleasure to beg you guys for help :-). jp -- PowerBooks is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html PowerBooks list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/powerbooks.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:powerbooks@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/powerbooks%40mail.maclaunch.com/ iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com
Re: More on my PB 190cs
Fluxstringer wrote: MB= Megabyte Mb= Megabit There are 8 bits in a byte Was there a point to this? jp -- PowerBooks is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html PowerBooks list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/powerbooks.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:powerbooks@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/powerbooks%40mail.maclaunch.com/ iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com
Re: More on my PB 190cs
Fluxstringer wrote: MB= Megabyte Mb= Megabit There are 8 bits in a byte Was there a point to this? jp -___ I didn't bother to do the math but it seemed the figures quoted could be for one in Megabytes and the other in Megabits which might account for the amount used being reported as bigger than the amount available. This was a quick judgement based on the amount used being reported with so many figures . I deleted the post so I cannot go back and check it. -- Adrian -- PowerBooks is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html PowerBooks list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/powerbooks.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:powerbooks@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/powerbooks%40mail.maclaunch.com/ iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com
Re: More on my PB 190cs
John, LineFeeds/word processing: I think Caleb's suggestion is good. If you have Word 5, you exchange documents with Linux not as TextOnly files, but as RTF or as Word docs. Newer versions of Word can save for older versions, or alternatively, there is a plugin for Word 5 for importing docs from newer Word versions. This will solve not only the LineFeeds problem, but also accented letters, smart quotes, etc. And maybe it'll give you some possibilities that you're missing in ClarisWorks. Actually, I like Claris much better than Word, but still I use Word a lot because it has some features I need. E.g., it's a good bridge to Windows (or maybe Linux with OpenOffice, Save As: MS Word), while Claris doesn't do conversions very well. If you're more on the engineering side, I think you'll love Tex-Edit Plus. It determines paragraphs intelligently when removing LineFeeds, but it has tons of other 'text massaging' tools. And you may like its support for Apple scripting (kind of like DOS batch files, but brought to Mac OS level, and working also inside programs). Disk size: In the Finder, double-click the disk icon to open its content window. In the header of that window, you see the disk info, e.g.: 10 items 187.8 MB in disk 69 MB available If you don't see that header, you can activate it in Control Panels/Views. (This is the situation in 7.5.3. Maybe 7.5.5 is slightly different.) looking for engineering aids and such: You're already quite self-sufficient, but why not post your needs here, in some detail? That's what the list is for! Just a loose remark re. OS: MacTracker says the 190 runs maximum OS 8.1 Web browser: We had some discussion about that a few weeks ago; maybe check the archive for those posts. I think the main tips were iCab and Opera 5. But if you need good 'html 4.0 rendering and current javascript', I think the 190 won't do... Acrobat Reader: If I remember correctly, I'm using version 4 on my PB, which is much more compatible than v.3 because they didn't add many features after that. Ethernet: Right, you can't switch to Ethernet as long as you don't have it. That's the Mac way of doing things. Ge' -- PowerBooks is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html PowerBooks list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/powerbooks.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:powerbooks@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/powerbooks%40mail.maclaunch.com/ iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com
Re: More on my PB 190cs
Fluxstringer wrote: Fluxstringer wrote: MB= Megabyte Mb= Megabit There are 8 bits in a byte Was there a point to this? jp -___ I didn't bother to do the math but it seemed the figures quoted could be for one in Megabytes and the other in Megabits which might account for the amount used being reported as bigger than the amount available. Oh. In sum, I did Finder - Get Info on 3 drives, and got Using finder-get info: Macintosh HD 288.2MB on disk (302,255,104 bytes used) (CF drive)187.8MB on disk (196,943,872 bytes used) (floppy)1.2MB on disk (1,288,704 bytes used) The HD is an original 525MB drive; the CF is a 256MB card; the floppy is a standard 1.45MB disk. If it had been a bits vs bytes issue, there would be an 8X difference. Since there's only a 5% or so issue, I don't know what the differences mean, and haven't found any enlightenment in Apple or the web yet. jp -- PowerBooks is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html PowerBooks list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/powerbooks.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:powerbooks@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/powerbooks%40mail.maclaunch.com/ iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com
Re: More on my PB 190cs
Fluxstringer wrote: Fluxstringer wrote: MB= Megabyte Mb= Megabit There are 8 bits in a byte Was there a point to this? jp -___ I didn't bother to do the math but it seemed the figures quoted could be for one in Megabytes and the other in Megabits which might account for the amount used being reported as bigger than the amount available. Oh. In sum, I did Finder - Get Info on 3 drives, and got Using finder-get info: Macintosh HD 288.2MB on disk (302,255,104 bytes used) (CF drive)187.8MB on disk (196,943,872 bytes used) (floppy)1.2MB on disk (1,288,704 bytes used) The HD is an original 525MB drive; the CF is a 256MB card; the floppy is a standard 1.45MB disk. If it had been a bits vs bytes issue, there would be an 8X difference. Since there's only a 5% or so issue, I don't know what the differences mean, and haven't found any enlightenment in Apple or the web yet. jp _ ASP in OS 9 doesn't report it like that. So I don't know what'd happening. I assume your HD is a sub 500 MB. I guesss the difference is in the math of the ASP for your OS. Or maybe there is some discrepency caused by headers or fragmentation.. What do other HD utilities report? -- Adrian -- PowerBooks is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html PowerBooks list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/powerbooks.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:powerbooks@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/powerbooks%40mail.maclaunch.com/ iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com
Re: More on my PB 190cs
John, It's not obvious to me why the Mac thinks there are 325MB on a 256MB card, but maybe it will make sense when I've learned more. Sorry to ask, but are you sure you're not looking at the internal harddisk specs? Ge' -- PowerBooks is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html PowerBooks list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/powerbooks.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:powerbooks@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/powerbooks%40mail.maclaunch.com/ iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com
Re: More on my PB 190cs
Ge' wrote: John, It's not obvious to me why the Mac thinks there are 325MB on a 256MB card, but maybe it will make sense when I've learned more. Sorry to ask, but are you sure you're not looking at the internal harddisk specs? OK, to be sure I wasn't confused, I went back and looked at all my drives. Using finder-get info: Macintosh HD 288.2MB on disk (302,255,104 bytes used) (CF drive)187.8MB on disk (196,943,872 bytes used) (floppy)1.2MB on disk (1,288,704 bytes used) This is obviously not what I thought it was. Is there any other way find out a drive's capacity? jp -- PowerBooks is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html PowerBooks list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/powerbooks.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:powerbooks@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/powerbooks%40mail.maclaunch.com/ iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com
Re: More on my PB 190cs
MB= Megabyte Mb= Megabit There are 8 bits in a byte -- PowerBooks is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html PowerBooks list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/powerbooks.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:powerbooks@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/powerbooks%40mail.maclaunch.com/ iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com
Re: More on my PB 190cs
John Perry writes, I'm still trying to figure out how to get 7.5.5 loaded so I'll be fully up to date before having to buy OS upgrades. Neither 7.6 nor 8.0 are available for download, so I'll stick with 7.5.5 for a while, now that I have a reasonable transfer mode (those 20 floppies were a real pain!). You can download the OS 7.5.5 upgrade for free from Apple. Yes, you'll have to do that PITA floppy crap to get your upgrade done, but I had moved my 190 from 7.5.2 to 7.5.3 to 7.5.5. I don't know what you're using your 190 for, but maybe you don't really need to go past 7.5.5. I was able to word process, email, chat (IRC and AIM) and go on the web (iCAB) with mine on 7.5.5. I suppose if your uses are more complex than mine (games? music? video?) then maybe you do need the upgrade. But if your needs are similar to mine, you might be just as well off staying where you are and not taxing RAM or other resources to run a higher OS than you really need. Just a thought. :-) ~Yersinia. -- PowerBooks is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html PowerBooks list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/powerbooks.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:powerbooks@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/powerbooks%40mail.maclaunch.com/ iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com
Re: More on my PB 190cs
Yersinia wrote: John Perry writes, ... You can download the OS 7.5.5 upgrade for free from Apple. Yes, you'll have to do that PITA floppy crap to get your upgrade done, but I had moved my 190 from 7.5.2 to 7.5.3 to 7.5.5. Yes, I already had updated to 7.5.3r2, but the 7.5.5 instructions were a bit hard to follow. I just now succeeded, and my 190 comes up as 7.5.5. Thanks to all who helped. I don't know what you're using your 190 for, but maybe you don't really need to go past 7.5.5. I was able to word process, email, chat (IRC and AIM) and go on the web (iCAB) with mine on 7.5.5. I suppose if your uses are more complex than mine (games? music? video?) then maybe you do need the upgrade. But if your needs are similar to mine, you might be just as well off staying where you are and not taxing RAM or other resources to run a higher OS than you really need. Just a thought. :-) I don't do much in the way of games (Freecell and Shisen-sho are about it), and I don't do chat at all. I do a lot of Web work, and that I like to do from behind my firewall. I also do a lot of word processing, but I need more than Claris can provide. I need ethernet, usb, and maybe a cdrom. But until I'm more comfortable with the 190, I'll stick with what I've got. It's just that I'd really like to have a laptop to take with me on the job, and I can't afford a better one now (a victim of the recent NASA layoffs). For now, I'll just try to keep my engineering log on it. I'm digging through the freeware and shareware resources now, looking for engineering aids and such. ~Yersinia. -- PowerBooks is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html PowerBooks list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/powerbooks.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:powerbooks@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/powerbooks%40mail.maclaunch.com/ iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com
More on my PB 190cs
Hi, all, With the help of several list members, I got my new PB up again, and got OS7.5.3 installed and working. Thanks! I ran across a Sandisk CompactFlash PC card adapter yesterday, for $12. Since I already had a CF USB adapter for my other machines, I bought it and tried it. IT WORKS! I now have a 256MB drive on my antique PB190cs, which will make everything much easier in the future (if only I'd found it two weeks ago...). I was concerned, since I had read that large drives needed special software under the older Macs, but OS7.5.3 tells me that 158.8MBis available, and 166.5MB are in use. It's not obvious to me why the Mac thinks there are 325MB on a 256MB card, but maybe it will make sense when I've learned more. I'm still trying to figure out how to get 7.5.5 loaded so I'll be fully up to date before having to buy OS upgrades. Neither 7.6 nor 8.0 are available for download, so I'll stick with 7.5.5 for a while, now that I have a reasonable transfer mode (those 20 floppies were a real pain!). I've looked at several PC card network interfaces, and all say either Windows-only or OS9.1 and later on Mac. Anyone have any guidance to offer? John Perry -- PowerBooks is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html PowerBooks list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/powerbooks.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:powerbooks@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/powerbooks%40mail.maclaunch.com/ iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com
