Re: 1400c battery

[Ben Smith]

> -Original Message-
> From: PowerBooks [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> Matthew Reidsrow
> Sent: Friday, February 14, 2003 11:58 PM
> To: PowerBooks
> Subject: Re: 1400c battery
>
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
>
> Does anyone know if the PRAM battery for a PBG3 can be rebuilt?  John
> Brownsberger
>
> --
>
> Sure. All PB batteries I've seen are just watch cells wired in series or
> parellel. Anyone with a battery welding tool (since they don't take solder
> well :) ) and shrink wrap should be able to remove the old cells and throw
> some new ones in for you. Chefck your local Batteries Plus or call Mike,
> Jimmy, or Bob at the Holland, Michigan store with questions at (616)
> 396-9914. They rebuild all of my batteries, from computers to shavers...
>
> -msr
>

NO NO NO
The PB batteries are rechargeable cells, they look like watch cells but are
NOT the same, watch cells are primary cells (non rechargeable) and will not
work as replacements (they will leak or worse).
The cells you need are rechargeable coin cells that can be got from most
suppliers (RS or Farnell in the UK), these usually come with tags attached.
Ben.


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Re: 1400c battery/thanks

[John Brownsberger]

Thanks for the good info!  John

on 2/14/03 7:57 PM, Matthew Reidsrow at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> 
> Does anyone know if the PRAM battery for a PBG3 can be rebuilt?  John
> Brownsberger
> 
> --
> 
> Sure. All PB batteries I've seen are just watch cells wired in series or
> parellel. Anyone with a battery welding tool (since they don't take solder
> well :) ) and shrink wrap should be able to remove the old cells and throw
> some new ones in for you. Chefck your local Batteries Plus or call Mike,
> Jimmy, or Bob at the Holland, Michigan store with questions at (616)
> 396-9914. They rebuild all of my batteries, from computers to shavers...
> 
> -msr
> 
> 


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Re: 1400c battery

[Matthew Reidsrow]

-Original Message-

Does anyone know if the PRAM battery for a PBG3 can be rebuilt?  John
Brownsberger

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Sure. All PB batteries I've seen are just watch cells wired in series or
parellel. Anyone with a battery welding tool (since they don't take solder
well :) ) and shrink wrap should be able to remove the old cells and throw
some new ones in for you. Chefck your local Batteries Plus or call Mike,
Jimmy, or Bob at the Holland, Michigan store with questions at (616)
396-9914. They rebuild all of my batteries, from computers to shavers...

-msr



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Re: 1400c battery

[John Brownsberger]

Does anyone know if the PRAM battery for a PBG3 can be rebuilt?  John
Brownsberger

on 2/14/03 3:05 PM, Matthew Reidsrow at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> The PRAM battery can be
> very expensive, (http://www.ebatts.com/modelselect.asp?Model=1137514 has the
> 5
> V Lithium Rechargeable with electrical connectors for $54.95 U.S.) but I
> picked
> up 2 on eBay some time back for $15.00 U.S. each.
> 
> I had mine rebuilt at a local Batteries Plus, since the cells are common and
> cheap, the repair only ran me about $8, and they did it while I waited
> (about 5 minutes).
> 
> -msr
> 
> 


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Re: 1400c battery

[Matthew Reidsrow]

-Original Message-
The PRAM battery can be
very expensive, (http://www.ebatts.com/modelselect.asp?Model=1137514 has the
5
V Lithium Rechargeable with electrical connectors for $54.95 U.S.) but I
picked
up 2 on eBay some time back for $15.00 U.S. each.

I had mine rebuilt at a local Batteries Plus, since the cells are common and
cheap, the repair only ran me about $8, and they did it while I waited
(about 5 minutes).

-msr



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Re: 1400c battery

[David Allen]

I've done numerous, but I'm in Las Vegas, Nevada. (A little far to travel,
although many do like to come here for some reason!) The PRAM battery can be
very expensive, (http://www.ebatts.com/modelselect.asp?Model=1137514 has the 5
V Lithium Rechargeable with electrical connectors for $54.95 U.S.) but I picked
up 2 on eBay some time back for $15.00 U.S. each. They are happily residing in
my upgraded 1400s, which lost all of their startup glitches after the
replacement.

David Allen


>
> Is there anyone in London area or the East of England who is up for doing
> this? Or can recommend someone - or where to get the battery?
> I'd really like her to enjoy this little Mac, and when it behaves - she
> does!
>
> With all good wishes
> Brian


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Re: 1400c battery

[Thad Hoffman]

on 2/12/03 8:59 AM, bill wells at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> I bought a 1400c recently and have discovered the following problem
> that I would ask for list advice:  When I first tried to operate with
> the battery, the machine would start up but after the mac icon
> appeared it would shut down. I used Disk Recondition and still the
> same problem. Before I ditch the battery I wondered if the experts
> had any advice.
> thanks
> bill
I'd suggest starting up plugged in, sleep it, then run it off battery to see
how long it lasts. My 1400c runs for 30mins - 45 mins on battery, sometimes
longer if I set the screen to b&w, but if I boot it off battery I get about
5-10 minutes. That should tell you if it is the battery or not.

Another thing I did was shut off the startup memory test, hold down the
option+command keys when you open the memory control panel, then shut off
the check box, that is if you are sure the memory is good. It will speed
startup some.

ps, I still am using my original battery (jan 97), battery recond. brought
it back to life. My Sonnet upgrade has helped also.

Oh and take out all pcmcia cards not in use, they will draw power unless you
have that option turned on in teh mem control that will stop power to unused
cards.


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Re: 1400c battery

[Brian Steere]

David Allen recently said:

> The "Help" menu should explain how to reset the Power Manager/PRAM.
> Replacing the PRAM battery is not for the feint of heart, as it requires
> taking almost the entire 1400 apart and working with very delicate wires
> and connectors. The PRAM battery is located beside the touch pad in the
> bottom case.

My friend's 1400cs 117 has been crashing a lot especially waking from sleep.
This is all on a freshly installed System. I have also run DiskWarrior and
reset the power manager etc.

Not long ago someone mentioned that changing the PRAM battery helped them so
I was thinking maybe to do that. But I do feel a bit iffy about possibly
messing up her 'book though I managed to install ram and ethernet card ok.
Is there anyone in London area or the East of England who is up for doing
this? Or can recommend someone - or where to get the battery?
I'd really like her to enjoy this little Mac, and when it behaves - she
does!

With all good wishes
Brian


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Re: 1400c battery

[David Allen]

You may have a bad battery, it may need to be charged, the PRAM battery
may need to be replaced, or the PRAM or Power Manager may need to be
reset.

Does the 1400 startup on the AC power adapter?

The "Help" menu should explain how to reset the Power Manager/PRAM.
Replacing the PRAM battery is not for the feint of heart, as it requires
taking almost the entire 1400 apart and working with very delicate wires
and connectors. The PRAM battery is located beside the touch pad in the
bottom case.

David Allen

bill wells wrote:

> I bought a 1400c recently and have discovered the following problem
> that I would ask for list advice:  When I first tried to operate with
> the battery, the machine would start up but after the mac icon
> appeared it would shut down. I used Disk Recondition and still the
> same problem. Before I ditch the battery I wondered if the experts
> had any advice.
> thanks
> bill
>


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Re: 1400c battery

[John Brownsberger]

What kind of battery is it?   Some can be rebuilt.  You can take to any
battery shop and they can test it.  John Brownsberger

on 2/12/03 10:59 AM, bill wells at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> I bought a 1400c recently and have discovered the following problem
> that I would ask for list advice:  When I first tried to operate with
> the battery, the machine would start up but after the mac icon
> appeared it would shut down. I used Disk Recondition and still the
> same problem. Before I ditch the battery I wondered if the experts
> had any advice.
> thanks
> bill


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