Re: VST Tri-Media Reader and Zips and CF PCMCIA

[M Forrest]

Donna suggested:

> Did you try reinstalling Netscape? What version are you using?

Can't reinstall it. Don't have it on floppy. And I don't have a floppy drive
hooked up to my iMac to make a floppy version from the CD version I have.
Can't d/l it because I can't get online with a browser to d/l it. Catch-22.

>tell your mother-in-law to add an account name to her account (she's
>allowed 7 names) that is 7 characters or less. Then try to access THAT new
>name which will be useable in that earlier version of AOL

Believe me, I know more about AOL than I care to. Was one of the very first
subscribers years and years and years ago--1991 I think. Already thought of
this option, but my mother-in-law is vacationing and away from a computer
for another month or so (can you believe being offline for that
long??!!!). Anyway, that option will not work right now. Yes, I could
call and get her password, but her user name is also too long. So going the
AOL route is just off the list of possibilities right now.

And no, it's not worth installing AOL on my iMac and calling her for her
account info and me setting up another account on her account while she is
away.That's just a lot of futzing. I think I have a much easier
workaround.

At this point in time, I am just going to wait for the Compact Flash card
and USB CF/SM reader to arrive Just got the PCMCIA CF adaptor today. It
seems to be a far smaller headache than taking the PB directly online at
this point. The CF card and CF/SM reader are due to arrive Thursday or
Friday, Saturday at the latest. So I just have to hold tight until then.
Patience...ugh!

If I want to make the PB capable of being online at some point in time,
updating browsers and such will be far easier via and CF card, I think.

I am a little concerned that the USB CF/SM reader is a reader only and not
also a writer, but I did a little research and it SEEMS that I should be
able to drag and drop over to the reader from my iMac. I am keeping my
fingers crossed, anyway. If not, I'll just sell this reader and get a
reader/writer. I only paid $10 for this one, so I know I can sell it and get
back what I paid for it.

Once I finally get the CF card and reader, I'll report in on how it all
works out just in case someone else on the list is interested.

Thanks,
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Re: VST Tri-Media Reader and Zips and CF PCMCIA

[Donna Hood Pointer]

. 
> Well, tonight I tried to get the PB online. It does get online through my
> dial-up ISP that I am about to turn off in a few days, but now I can't get
> the Netscape browser to work.

Did you try reinstalling Netscape? What version are you using?

>So there's an old old version of (pooey pooey
> I HATE to even say this) AOL (v. 2.7!) that I decided to try. My
> mother-in-law has an account that I can access. Well, no go there because
> the account name has more letters in it than version 2.7 will allow. So
> that's out.

Sotell your mother-in-law to add an account name to her account (she's
allowed 7 names) that is 7 characters or less. Then try to access THAT new
name which will be useable in that earlier version of AOL . She signs up the
name with a password she tells you. YOU sign in with that new name and PW.
You will be sharing HER main account. I share my account with my sister--and
she lives in another state. The only caveat is that we cannot be signed on
simultaneously. You will be able to send and retrieve email but the browser
in that version is extremely limited in function. You can run AOL version 3
on earlier computers (the browser is somewhat better). You cannot run the
latest version because it requires a PPC.  I can't remember whether version
4 requires PPC or not.

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Re: VST Tri-Media Reader and Zips and CF PCMCIA--ooops

[David Brocklebank]

--- Paul Nelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> At 4:41 PM -0700 10/16/01, David Brocklebank wrote:
> >Thanks -
> >i have a crossover cable - how does one recognize
> the
> >other ? Do I have to set them up under network
> >browser.
> >"in the dark"
> 
>   It's obvious, as they are colour coded, so look at
> the ends.
> Crossover is mirror image, the other is identical.
> Paul
> 
Sorry - I didn't mean the cable - I meant how does one
computer recognize the other - was answered
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Re: VST Tri-Media Reader and Zips and CF PCMCIA

[M Forrest]

> I don't love Zips, myself, but I have found all the drivers I have
> ever needed on the 'net and downloaded them to get around the CD
> issue.

Well, tonight I tried to get the PB online. It does get online through my
dial-up ISP that I am about to turn off in a few days, but now I can't get
the Netscape browser to work. So there's an old old version of (pooey pooey
I HATE to even say this) AOL (v. 2.7!) that I decided to try. My
mother-in-law has an account that I can access. Well, no go there because
the account name has more letters in it than version 2.7 will allow. So
that's out.

Connecting the Zip has just become WAY too complicated, and now I am glad
that winging their way to me are a CF card, CF PCMCIA adapter, and CF/SM USB
reader for my iMac. Just seems like this is going to be the easiest solution
afterall...glad I found the deals/steals on eBay to make it happen!!!

Thanks for all the suggestions.

Anyone else using the route of CF media with their old PB?

Morgan


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Re: VST Tri-Media Reader and Zips and CF PCMCIA--ooops

[Paul Nelson]

At 4:41 PM -0700 10/16/01, David Brocklebank wrote:
>Thanks -
>i have a crossover cable - how does one recognize the
>other ? Do I have to set them up under network
>browser.
>"in the dark"

It's obvious, as they are colour coded, so look at the ends.
Crossover is mirror image, the other is identical.
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Re: VST Tri-Media Reader and Zips and CF PCMCIA--ooops

[Jamie Pruden]

Start up one machine.
Turn on AppleTalk. Choose Ethernet.
Start up the other machine.
Turn on AppleTalk. Choose Ethernet.

You may have to restart the first machine. Maybe not, though.

That should be it. You can now mess with the File Sharing control panel 
to choose who can access and what they can access.

Select Chooser on one machine.
Click on AppleShare.
Choose the other machine.
Type in the name and pw for the machine.
Click OK.

Now you're connected...

smiles,
Jamie

On 10/16/01 4:41 PM, David Brocklebank <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> typed:

>Thanks -
>i have a crossover cable - how does one recognize the
>other ? Do I have to set them up under network
>browser.
>"in the dark"
>
>--- Jamie Pruden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> No... you have to use a crossover cable...
>> 
>> smiles,
>> Jamie
>> 
>> On 10/16/01 4:35 PM, David Brocklebank
>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> typed:
>> 
>> >Can you connect 2 - 3400 Powerbooks this way - via
>> a
>> >straight ethernet cable - port to port?



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Re: VST Tri-Media Reader and Zips and CF PCMCIA--ooops

[David Brocklebank]

Thanks -
i have a crossover cable - how does one recognize the
other ? Do I have to set them up under network
browser.
"in the dark"

--- Jamie Pruden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> No... you have to use a crossover cable...
> 
> smiles,
> Jamie
> 
> On 10/16/01 4:35 PM, David Brocklebank
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> typed:
> 
> >Can you connect 2 - 3400 Powerbooks this way - via
> a
> >straight ethernet cable - port to port?
> 
> 
> 
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Re: VST Tri-Media Reader and Zips and CF PCMCIA--ooops

[Jamie Pruden]

No... you have to use a crossover cable...

smiles,
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On 10/16/01 4:35 PM, David Brocklebank <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> typed:

>Can you connect 2 - 3400 Powerbooks this way - via a
>straight ethernet cable - port to port?



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Re: VST Tri-Media Reader and Zips and CF PCMCIA--ooops

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--- makmac <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Just FYI. When I've needed to install software on a
> PowerBook without
> CD-ROM, I've just put the CD in my iMac, shared the
> CD, and then mounted the
> CD on the PowerBooks desktop (or any other Mac for
> that matter) via
> ethernet. 

Can you connect 2 - 3400 Powerbooks this way - via a
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Re: VST Tri-Media Reader and Zips and CF PCMCIA--ooops

[makmac]

M Forrest on 10/16/01 2:34 PM wrote:

> Makmac wrote:
>> PS. I don't think there is a special Zip driver for PowerBooks. The one that
>> installs for desktop Macs should be the same for PowerBooks)
> 
> OOOpppsss!!! I realized that I read your comment wrong. While there probably
> isn't a special driver for the PB, I don't have a driver on the PB at all,
> and the driver that came with it came on a CD, and of course the PB has no
> CD. So getting the driver installed will be a small PITA. That's why I opted
> for spending an extra $30 to bypass the Zips completely and go the route of
> PCMCIA CF card.
> 

Just FYI. When I've needed to install software on a PowerBook without
CD-ROM, I've just put the CD in my iMac, shared the CD, and then mounted the
CD on the PowerBooks desktop (or any other Mac for that matter) via
ethernet. Then it installs just as if the CD were actually in the PowerBook.
I've even done OS updates this way.

It has saved me the hassle of connecting a CD-ROM drive to the PowerBook
which on older PowerBooks can be frustrating at times (SCSI voodoo).

Of course this still requires an ethernet option. In a pinch though, you can
use LocalTalk, but then of course that won't work with an iMac, you would
need a Mac with a serial port.
 
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Re: VST Tri-Media Reader and Zips and CF PCMCIA--ooops

[Jane Thompson]

I don't love Zips, myself, but I have found all the drivers I have
ever needed on the 'net and downloaded them to get around the CD
issue. 8-) 
jt

M Forrest wrote:
I don't have a driver on the PB at all,
> and the driver that came with it came on a CD, and of course the PB has no
> CD. So getting the driver installed will be a small PITA.

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Re: VST Tri-Media Reader and Zips and CF PCMCIA--ooops

[M Forrest]

Makmac wrote:
> PS. I don't think there is a special Zip driver for PowerBooks. The one that
> installs for desktop Macs should be the same for PowerBooks)

OOOpppsss!!! I realized that I read your comment wrong. While there probably
isn't a special driver for the PB, I don't have a driver on the PB at all,
and the driver that came with it came on a CD, and of course the PB has no
CD. So getting the driver installed will be a small PITA. That's why I opted
for spending an extra $30 to bypass the Zips completely and go the route of
PCMCIA CF card.

Thanks again for your suggestions!

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Re: VST Tri-Media Reader and Zips and CF PCMCIA

[M Forrest]

Makmac wrote:

> PS. I don't think there is a special Zip driver for PowerBooks. The one that
> installs for desktop Macs should be the same for PowerBooks)

No, I didn't mean to imply there was. The reason I have two is because 2 or
3 years ago my business partner needed to hook the SCSI Zip she already had
up to the new non-SCSI iMac, and discovered it was within a few dollars to
purchase a new USB Zip as it was to purchase the SCSI to USB adapter. So,
since I now have two Zips, I can hook the SCSI Zip up to the PB190 and the
USB Zip up to the iMac.

But I have never really liked Zip. Just personal preference.

>I would suggest a PCMCIA ethernet card. Then it's just a matter of transferring
>from Mac-to-Mac rather than from media-to-Mac-to-media-to-Mac... Plus an
>ethernet card can be found for a third of the price you're looking to pay.

Well, my iMac is hardwired into an Xrouter wireless hub for cable modem
access, with an iBook with Airport card also accessing the cable modem. I
was looking into getting a wireless PCMCIA card, but they're about $80. I
wasn't sure how hooking up the PB via ethernet might work with the setup I
already have. I don't really need internet access on the PB.

I spent about $30 on a small (only 8MB) CF card, PCMCIA adapter, and USB
CF/SM reader, so I figure I got a pretty good deal. I won't really be
accessing the PB too much, mostly for an intense writing project in
November.

I decided against the VST Tri-Media Reader when I found the CF/SM reader for
$10 on eBay.

I am trying to make this all as portable and fuss free as possible, which is
why I was looking for a way to get around the Zips. I also think it's a
cheaper way of getting some backup storage for some of my files on my iMac,
since I now have everything I need and the CF cards are really cheap through
one online place I found.

But thanks for the suggestions!

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Re: VST Tri-Media Reader

[makmac]

M Forrest on 10/13/01 8:48 PM wrote:

>> Donna Pointer wrote:
>> I
>> have a USB VST Tri-Media reader, which reads, writes and formats  floppies,
>> CompactFlash, and SmartMedia.
> 
> I was thinking of getting one of these, now that the price is down to $99,
> and then getting a CF card and adaptor to use as removeable storage from my
> PB190 to my iMac.  How's the VST Tri-Media working for you? I already have
> both a SCSI Zip AND a USB Zip, but I have never really liked Zip drives. I
> still have to finagle getting the PB online somehow to d/l the correct Zip
> driver for the PB. Seems like the Tri-Media, CF card and PCMCIA adaptor
> would be easier, although pricier since I already have the Zip drives. Any
> suggestions?
> 
> Morgan

If you just want to do transfers between the 190 and the iMac, I would
suggest a PCMCIA ethernet card. Then it's just a matter of transferring from
Mac-to-Mac rather than from media-to-Mac-to-media-to-Mac (huh?). Plus an
ethernet card can be found for a third of the price you're looking to pay.

I recently picked up a new-in-box Global Village PowerPort Platinum Pro
modem/ethernet card for under $25. Not only do I have the benefit of 10T
ethernet but I also have a 28.8 modem for going online when away from home.

I bought this one for a PB5300 but it will work with any PowerBook having a
PCMCIA slot. I used to use this same arrangement with a PB1400 I had. I
would transfer digital images from a SmartMedia card, via a PCMCIA adapter,
to my G4 at work (or G3 at home). I just mounted the G4 drive on my
PowerBook's desktop, and then drug the images from the card to the G4 drive
(I still do this with my Wallstreet but it has the benefit of having built
in ethernet).

-makmac
PS. I don't think there is a special Zip driver for PowerBooks. The one that
installs for desktop Macs should be the same for PowerBooks)


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Re: VST Tri-Media Reader

[Donna Hood Pointer]

I love my Tri-Media reader. Works beautifully. I just used it to pass some
data from my 520 to my iMac that was way too big to fit on a floppy and I
didn't have to find my ZIP drive connector and power down and connect it to
the 520 to do it. (That would have been my other option). You can just pop
out the CF PCMCIA holder just like you would a floppy by dragging it to the
trash, and then you pull the CF card out of the holder and put it in the
Tri-media reader. It would be great for passing info back AND forth between
the PB190 and your iMac because your PCMCIA is built-in on your PB190. Just
go and buy the holder at any place where they sell stuff for digital cameras
and get yourself a CompactFlash card. They are really coming down in price.
VERY CONVENIENT. I have a 64MB one. I wish I had bought bigger. Excellent
for transferring files to/from the iMac. I've done it. My cardcage on my
PB520 actually has two slots, so I guess I could actually plug another one
in the other slot if I had another holder. I do own another 64MB CF card,
but neither of them fit in my digital camera, which only takes 48MB max. The
transfer rate to the CF card  might be somewhat faster on my 520 than on the
190 because I think I read someplace that the cardcage is connected directly
to the motherboard, but not so with the PC slot on the 190.
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> Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2001 15:00:43 -0400
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (PowerBooks)
> Subject: PowerBooks Digest #555
> 
> Re: VST Tri-Media Reader
> From: M Forrest <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 
> Donna Pointer wrote:
>> I
>> have a USB VST Tri-Media reader, which reads, writes and formats  floppies,
>> CompactFlash, and SmartMedia.
> 
> I was thinking of getting one of these, now that the price is down to $99,
> and then getting a CF card and adaptor to use as removeable storage from my
> PB190 to my iMac.  How's the VST Tri-Media working for you? I already have
> both a SCSI Zip AND a USB Zip, but I have never really liked Zip drives. I
> still have to finagle getting the PB online somehow to d/l the correct Zip
> driver for the PB. Seems like the Tri-Media, CF card and PCMCIA adaptor
> would be easier, although pricier since I already have the Zip drives. Any
> suggestions?
> 
> Morgan


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Re: VST Tri-Media Reader

[M Forrest]

Donna Pointer wrote:
> I
> have a USB VST Tri-Media reader, which reads, writes and formats  floppies,
> CompactFlash, and SmartMedia.

I was thinking of getting one of these, now that the price is down to $99,
and then getting a CF card and adaptor to use as removeable storage from my
PB190 to my iMac.  How's the VST Tri-Media working for you? I already have
both a SCSI Zip AND a USB Zip, but I have never really liked Zip drives. I
still have to finagle getting the PB online somehow to d/l the correct Zip
driver for the PB. Seems like the Tri-Media, CF card and PCMCIA adaptor
would be easier, although pricier since I already have the Zip drives. Any
suggestions?

Morgan


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