Re: WTB: 3400 CD
On Monday, June 6, 2005, at 04:40 PM, KG wrote: I have 80 MB RAM. That will be good enough for OS 9.1, if you're inclined to go that route. The only caveat is that there will be times when you'll have to rely on VM. What would really do well for you would be to find a copy of RAM Doubler 9. I've heard this is really good. Haven't sniffed around for this yet and haven't noticed any limits yet. VM is turned off BTW. In OS 8.6, you'll have no problems whatsoever. I'm very interested in the notion of running OSX, but it seems like the RAM would be pretty skimpy for that hungry beast(?) To even consider OS X, you need to max out the RAM. It will be slow, but it will run. The main drawback is that the 603e just can't drive the OS X GUI very well. It's a chore for the iMac, so I can imagine. ;) What is max RAM expansion on the 3400c/200MHz? You can add a 128MB RAM card, for a maximum of 144 MB. I believe the HD is only 3GB, so that's a limit too. Just curious, but do you have a link for the hack? I LOVE OSX! Don't even think about OS X with that small of a hard drive. The link for the hack is http://eshop.macsales.com/OSXCenter/XPostFacto/. Here's what I can tell you from my experience. I own a 3400c with the 180MHz processor, which I chipped to 198 by means of replacing the 40MHz oscillator on the logic board with a 44 MHz one. With this mod, I'm within shouting distance of the 3400/240's performance. My main OS is a hybrid 9.1/9.2 install, a basic 9.1 system with the Finder and OT components from 9.2.2. I've also installed Yellow Dog Linux and OS X 10.1.4 and 10.2.8 at different times. YDL runs well but it's not too user-friendly; OS X doesn't run well, but even 10.1.4 would run iTunes so long as you didn't try to do anything else. Jaguar, which is now supported via XPostFacto, is faster. The stock hard drive has been replaced with a newer 20GB unit, and I've used the hacked CardBus software to enable that support on the 3400. With that, I've been able to do just about anything that requires a CardBus card. It's pretty remarkable what this now eight-year-old beast is still capable of doing... Thanks for all the interesting info, KG. Seems like 9.1 is the best bet for me. It would be fun to get OSX working, but by the time I invested in RAM and a hard drive, not to mention the time, I'd be better off to look at a later PB. What advantages does the 9.2 Finder/OT have? I'm pretty ignorant about non-OSX Macs. Just now putting my last Amiga out to pasture. Thanks again, - Peter PM: 1GHz DP/1 GB/80GBx2/10.2.8 iMac: 600MHz/768MB/40GB/10.2.8 PB: 3400C/9.1/200MHz Brother HL-1870N laser, Epson 785EPX, Epson 2450 scanner -- PowerBooks is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html PowerBooks list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/powerbooks.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:powerbooks@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/powerbooks%40mail.maclaunch.com/ iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com
Re: WTB: 3400 CD
On Sunday, June 5, 2005, at 09:34 PM, KG wrote: I just got a PB3400 with 9.1(?), the latest that will work. I'm curious why you prefer 8.6. Should I consider this? The 3400 is more responsive running under 8.6, but not dramatically so. It runs quite well on OS 9, provided you have a lot of RAM. You can actually run OS 9.2, 10.1.x or even Jaguar on a 3400 with the help of third-party hacks, but either 8.6 or 9.1 is your best bet for features, compatibility and performance. I have 80 MB RAM. I'm very interested in the notion of running OSX, but it seems like the RAM would be pretty skimpy for that hungry beast(?) What is max RAM expansion on the 3400c/200MHz? I believe the HD is only 3GB, so that's a limit too. Just curious, but do you have a link for the hack? I LOVE OSX! Thanks, - Peter Schaff PM: 1GHz DP/1 GB/80GBx2/10.2.8 iMac: 600MHz/768MB/40GB/10.2.8 PB: 3400C/200MHz/9.1 Brother HL-1870N laser, Epson 785EPX, Epson 2450 scanner -- PowerBooks is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html PowerBooks list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/powerbooks.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:powerbooks@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/powerbooks%40mail.maclaunch.com/ iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com
Re: WTB: 3400 CD
On Sunday, June 5, 2005, at 09:34 PM, KG wrote: I just got a PB3400 with 9.1(?), the latest that will work. I'm curious why you prefer 8.6. Should I consider this? The 3400 is more responsive running under 8.6, but not dramatically so. It runs quite well on OS 9, provided you have a lot of RAM. You can actually run OS 9.2, 10.1.x or even Jaguar on a 3400 with the help of third-party hacks, but either 8.6 or 9.1 is your best bet for features, compatibility and performance. I have 80 MB RAM. I'm very interested in the notion of running OSX, but it seems like the RAM would be pretty skimpy for that hungry beast(?) What is max RAM expansion on the 3400c/200MHz? I believe the HD is only 3GB, so that's a limit too. Just curious, but do you have a link for the hack? I LOVE OSX! Thanks, - Peter Schaff PM: 1GHz DP/1 GB/80GBx2/10.2.8 iMac: 600MHz/768MB/40GB/10.2.8 PB: 3400C/200MHz/9.1 Brother HL-1870N laser, Epson 785EPX, Epson 2450 scanner On 05-03-05 Another lister posted the same wish. I wrote then; So now that XPostFacto v3.1 supports 10.2 on 603/604 Macs, has anyone tried it yet on either 2400 or 3400? Offhand it sounds like a sure recipe for a major case of the slows In general the same was voiced on the list for days after. -- Adrian -- PowerBooks is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html PowerBooks list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/powerbooks.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:powerbooks@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/powerbooks%40mail.maclaunch.com/ iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com
Re: WTB: 3400 CD
on 6/6/05 1:16 PM, Peter Schaff at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What is max RAM expansion on the 3400c/200MHz? 144 -- Wanda K. -- PowerBooks is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html PowerBooks list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/powerbooks.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:powerbooks@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/powerbooks%40mail.maclaunch.com/ iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com
Re: WTB: 3400 CD
I have 80 MB RAM. That will be good enough for OS 9.1, if you're inclined to go that route. The only caveat is that there will be times when you'll have to rely on VM. What would really do well for you would be to find a copy of RAM Doubler 9. In OS 8.6, you'll have no problems whatsoever. I'm very interested in the notion of running OSX, but it seems like the RAM would be pretty skimpy for that hungry beast(?) To even consider OS X, you need to max out the RAM. It will be slow, but it will run. The main drawback is that the 603e just can't drive the OS X GUI very well. What is max RAM expansion on the 3400c/200MHz? You can add a 128MB RAM card, for a maximum of 144 MB. I believe the HD is only 3GB, so that's a limit too. Just curious, but do you have a link for the hack? I LOVE OSX! Don't even think about OS X with that small of a hard drive. The link for the hack is http://eshop.macsales.com/OSXCenter/XPostFacto/. Here's what I can tell you from my experience. I own a 3400c with the 180MHz processor, which I chipped to 198 by means of replacing the 40MHz oscillator on the logic board with a 44 MHz one. With this mod, I'm within shouting distance of the 3400/240's performance. My main OS is a hybrid 9.1/9.2 install, a basic 9.1 system with the Finder and OT components from 9.2.2. I've also installed Yellow Dog Linux and OS X 10.1.4 and 10.2.8 at different times. YDL runs well but it's not too user-friendly; OS X doesn't run well, but even 10.1.4 would run iTunes so long as you didn't try to do anything else. Jaguar, which is now supported via XPostFacto, is faster. The stock hard drive has been replaced with a newer 20GB unit, and I've used the hacked CardBus software to enable that support on the 3400. With that, I've been able to do just about anything that requires a CardBus card. It's pretty remarkable what this now eight-year-old beast is still capable of doing... -- PowerBooks is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html PowerBooks list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/powerbooks.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:powerbooks@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/powerbooks%40mail.maclaunch.com/ iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com
Re: WTB: 3400 CD
I just got a PB3400 with 9.1(?), the latest that will work. I'm curious why you prefer 8.6. Should I consider this? The 3400 is more responsive running under 8.6, but not dramatically so. It runs quite well on OS 9, provided you have a lot of RAM. You can actually run OS 9.2, 10.1.x or even Jaguar on a 3400 with the help of third-party hacks, but either 8.6 or 9.1 is your best bet for features, compatibility and performance. -- PowerBooks is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html PowerBooks list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/powerbooks.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:powerbooks@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/powerbooks%40mail.maclaunch.com/ iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com
Re: WTB: 3400 CD
Hello, probably very hard to get. You need a spezial one for PB3400, cause the 7.6.1 update is a spezial one. Be careful, there is a common 7.6.1 update and a PB3400 only 7.6.1 update But in my opinion the 8.6 fits this Powerbook best. Anyone have one for sale or know where I can get a PowerBook 3400 series CD (With 7.6)? Thanks... Ian Nixon [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- +---+ | () Gruesse/regards [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | /\ Manfred Guentnerwww.serv.de.eu.org | +---+ -- PowerBooks is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html PowerBooks list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/powerbooks.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:powerbooks@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/powerbooks%40mail.maclaunch.com/ iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com
Re: WTB: 3400 CD
On Saturday, June 4, 2005, at 02:45 AM, Manfred wrote: Hello, probably very hard to get. You need a spezial one for PB3400, cause the 7.6.1 update is a spezial one. Be careful, there is a common 7.6.1 update and a PB3400 only 7.6.1 update But in my opinion the 8.6 fits this Powerbook best. I just got a PB3400 with 9.1(?), the latest that will work. I'm curious why you prefer 8.6. Should I consider this? Thanks. - Peter Schaff PM: 1GHz DP/1 GB/160MB/10.2.8 iMac: 600MHz/768MB/40GB/10.2.8 PB: 3400C/9.1 Brother HL-1870N laser, Epson 785EPX, Epson 2450 scanner -- PowerBooks is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html PowerBooks list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/powerbooks.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:powerbooks@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/powerbooks%40mail.maclaunch.com/ iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com
Re: WTB: 3400 CD
on 6/4/05 4:45 AM, Manfred at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But in my opinion the 8.6 fits this Powerbook best. A friend of mine gets really good results on 3400's using a Powerbook G4 9.1 disk. -- Wanda K. -- PowerBooks is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html PowerBooks list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/powerbooks.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:powerbooks@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/powerbooks%40mail.maclaunch.com/ iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com
Re: WTB: 3400 CD
I've been using 9.1 quite agreeably on my 3400 for well over a year and a half. I do remember some reports of some people having difficulty getting 9.1 to load but I did not experience any of those problems. The archives may have info as to the workaround if you experience it because I remember there was a trick. Other than that wrinkle, if you even experience it, I can recommend 9.1 as solid. --- Wanda K. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 6/4/05 4:45 AM, Manfred at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But in my opinion the 8.6 fits this Powerbook best. A friend of mine gets really good results on 3400's using a Powerbook G4 9.1 disk. -- Wanda K. -- PowerBooks is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html PowerBooks list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/powerbooks.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:powerbooks@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/powerbooks%40mail.maclaunch.com/ iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PowerBooks is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html PowerBooks list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/powerbooks.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:powerbooks@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/powerbooks%40mail.maclaunch.com/ iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com
Re: WTB: 3400 CD
On Saturday, June 4, 2005, at 09:53 AM, Don Wakefield wrote: I've been using 9.1 quite agreeably on my 3400 for well over a year and a half. I do remember some reports of some people having difficulty getting 9.1 to load but I did not experience any of those problems. The archives may have info as to the workaround if you experience it because I remember there was a trick. Other than that wrinkle, if you even experience it, I can recommend 9.1 as solid. --- Wanda K. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 6/4/05 4:45 AM, Manfred at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But in my opinion the 8.6 fits this Powerbook best. A friend of mine gets really good results on 3400's using a Powerbook G4 9.1 disk. -- Wanda K. Thanks for the feedback. Seems I'm fine with OS9(.1). 8^) - Peter -- PowerBooks is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html PowerBooks list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/powerbooks.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:powerbooks@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/powerbooks%40mail.maclaunch.com/ iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com
WTB: 3400 CD module?
Looking for a CD module for my 3400. 6x or 12x. If you have one you want to part with, please drop me a line off-list. Cheers, Paul -- -- PowerBooks is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html PowerBooks list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/powerbooks.shtml Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/powerbooks%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Macintosh? Get free email and more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
