Re: powermail-discuss Custom Sounds

[Ira Lansing]

What is the preferred format for custom sounds that are placed in the
Custom Sounds folder (PM 5)?  I take it that these will appear in the
Preferences' Notification sounds pop-up menu?

Thanks--Ira

Re: SpamSieve dosn't work anymore with PM5!

[listes]

Marlyse Comte <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Sorry to hear it did not help - did you do a search for SpamSieve to make
> sure you only have 1 copy? because with the download of PM 5 you got
> another copy of it...
> 
> just hoping this is it - had been a problem for me until CTM helped me
> and asked if I had another version of SpamSieve and indeed I found some
> stacked away version of SpamSieve on my drive and trashed that one, after
> that all worked fine.

I didn't try it this way before, but now I can confirm (I searched for
any file contaning "spamsieve")

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Re: SpamSieve dosn't work anymore with PM5!

[listes]

Matthias Schmidt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> besides all that what was suggested until now, which Spam Sieve version
> you have?
> It should be 2.1.4

it is, alas

-may I take this opportunity to thank all of you, it is really
impressive to see the energy you input to help!

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Re: SpamSieve dosn't work anymore with PM5!

[listes]

Michael Tsai <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I suppose it's possible that the "SpamSieve - Evaluate.scpt" file 
> inside PowerMail is damaged. If that's the case, re-installing 5.0 
> would help.

I did reinstall 5.0 (from the same archive that worked before), still
with no result
On the other hand something striking is, if I manually select a lot of
incoming messages (mostly spam) that I just downloaded, then launch
"SpamSieve-Evaluate" *from the finder* (in powermail additions / spam
scripts) *then it works*
 It sounds like, if instead of running the plain spam setup assistant I
prepared an incoming filter triggering that script, it may do...

Herve

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Re: SpamSieve dosn't work anymore with PM5!

[listes]

Pat O'Halloran <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I had a similar problem when the beta first came out, I solved mine by
> putting the spam filter at the top of the filter list - is yours there?

yes, and the only one ("spam: evaluate" then "spam: action")

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Re: Somewhat long - Comments on 5.0

[Andy Fragen]

*This message was transferred with a trial version of CommuniGate(tm) Pro*
My "Burst Digest" package will split out the individual digest posts and
add a Reply-To: header to the list as an option.

Email me for the most recent version as I'm still tweaking it for PM5 and
speed.

-- 
Andy Fragen

On Wed, May 26, 2004, Christopher Plummer said:

>6) I would STILL LOVE to see a "Reply to List Post" option that would
>parse the selection from a Digest with a Reply sent to the list, but
>quoting the "From:" field of the selected post, and using the "Subject" 
>from the selection instead of "PowerMail discussion digest blah, blah".
>There was an Applescript (or was it Emailer Tools?) that did this in the
>old days.

Re: How to keep message toolbar as default

[Cap Schwartz]

Ah! Quitting and restarting did the trick! Now it seems to be "sticking."
Thanks, Chris.

Regards,
Cap

Not suspecting the train of events thus set into motion, Christopher
Plummer wrote:

>Subject: Re: How to keep message toolbar as default
>From: "Christopher Plummer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Date: Wed, 26 May 2004 11:38:32 -0400
>
>On Tue, 25 May 2004 20:01:00 +0200, "Cap Schwartz"
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, allegedly wrote: 
>
>>Subject: How to keep message toolbar as default
>>From: "Cap Schwartz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>Date: Mon, 24 May 2004 13:26:56 -0700
>>
>>I like having the functionality of the toolbar available in messages
>>(after I've double-clicked them to make them larger), but I don't like
>>having to use View > Show Toolbar for each message. Is there a way to
>>make this "sticky" so it becomes the default behavior until I change it?
>
>Try toggling it using the silver(?) button in the upper right, opposite
>the red,amber, green buttons. Once I switched the toolbar 'on' here, it
>stayed on for new messages, after quitting/restarting PM.
>
>- Chris
>
>===
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>===

Re: PM5 DB updating report

[cheshirekat]

On Wed, May 26, 20048:49 AM, the following words from Mikael Byström
[EMAIL PROTECTED], emerged from a plethora of SPAM ...

>Just letting you know that,
>it took 26 hours to update the sort index and doing the conversion of my
>127108 messages (462 MB) on my (quite slow) 266 G3.

Whoa! With that many saved messages, I bet you backup daily, no? I think,
my conversion was completed within two or three minutes. I was expecting
a longer wait, so I was doing other stuff and noticed it was done.
--
For each age is a dream that is dying,
Or one that is coming to birth.
-Arthur William Edgar O'Shaughnessy

* 867 PowerBook G4 * OS X 10.2.8 * 768 MB Ram *

Re: Somewhat long - Comments on 5.0

[Marlyse Comte]

yes, checkout your new filter options. there is one called 'don't show in
recent mail' or similar.
---marlyse

 former message(s) quotes: -

>4) I don't use Spamsieve. My PM-only filters are about 99% effective. I
>had my own 'Spam' folder, so had to change the name of that and then
>modify the filters to put SPAM in the new SPAM folder. I had previously
>set these filters to first put SPAM in Trash and then move it to SPAM
>folder, so that filtered SPAM would not appear in 'Recent Mail'. [Thanks
>to whomever provided that tip on the List!] Is there some automatic
>settiing for that now with 5?

Re(2): How to keep message toolbar as default

[Marlyse Comte]

This is btw. a functionality you see also in the Finder and it's windows
but also other applications, that little button to the right top toggles
the toolbar open/close.

---marlyse

 former message(s) quotes: -

>>I like having the functionality of the toolbar available in messages
>>(after I've double-clicked them to make them larger), but I don't like
>>having to use View > Show Toolbar for each message. Is there a way to
>>make this "sticky" so it becomes the default behavior until I change it?
>
>Try toggling it using the silver(?) button in the upper right, opposite
>the red,amber, green buttons. Once I switched the toolbar 'on' here, it
>stayed on for new messages, after quitting/restarting PM.

Re: Somewhat long - Comments on 5.0

[Pat O'Halloran]

It appears that on 26/5/04 Christopher Plummer spake thus:

>4) I don't use Spamsieve. My PM-only filters are about 99% effective. I
>had my own 'Spam' folder, so had to change the name of that and then
>modify the filters to put SPAM in the new SPAM folder. I had previously
>set these filters to first put SPAM in Trash and then move it to SPAM
>folder, so that filtered SPAM would not appear in 'Recent Mail'. [Thanks
>to whomever provided that tip on the List!] Is there some automatic
>settiing for that now with 5?

Yes, choose the 'Don't show in Recent Mail' option in your filters.

-- 
Pat O'Halloran http://www.danu.co.uk  
History repeats itself; historians repeat each other - Guedalla

Somewhat long - Comments on 5.0

[Christopher Plummer]

Panther 10.3.3, PB 800, 1Gig Ram

1) After forgetting that I had the registration key and launching the
first time into 'Demo mode', dropping the key on the application worked
as expected.

"Upgrading to PowerMail 5" in Release Notes mentions "updating your
database or creating a new one" but provides no details. The "Upgrade
from PowerMail 3-4.webloc" document, pointing to , brought up a "Not Found" page.

Thanks to the List, I was able to figure out that I needed to use File/
Database/Switch User Environment (not Import) to get my existing PM stuff
to work with 5. This should be better documented, or included in a PM
dialog to avoid confusion. After a 20-30 minute conversion, all my
scripts, signatures, config, and filters came through beautifully. Speed
and interface improvements are awesome!

2) By default my Cocoa toolbar in Recent Mail and opened mail documents
was 'hidden', so I had some brief confusion about the absence of the
Paper Clip and Send buttons. I used the silver button on the far right to
toggle it.

3) I agree with those who believe the "In Tray" and "Out Tray" icons
should have little arrows on them.

4) I don't use Spamsieve. My PM-only filters are about 99% effective. I
had my own 'Spam' folder, so had to change the name of that and then
modify the filters to put SPAM in the new SPAM folder. I had previously
set these filters to first put SPAM in Trash and then move it to SPAM
folder, so that filtered SPAM would not appear in 'Recent Mail'. [Thanks
to whomever provided that tip on the List!] Is there some automatic
settiing for that now with 5?

5) The List Pop-up button (which appears at the bottom when you open a
List mail) is great! Can we get the PM list to support more of these
options such as "List Owner" and "List Archive"?

6) I would STILL LOVE to see a "Reply to List Post" option that would
parse the selection from a Digest with a Reply sent to the list, but
quoting the "From:" field of the selected post, and using the "Subject" 
from the selection instead of "PowerMail discussion digest blah, blah".
There was an Applescript (or was it Emailer Tools?) that did this in the
old days.

7) I don't care much about HTML mail, but I would like to see a little
picture of the sender and/or recipient of mail when there is a picture
available in Apple's Address book, the way iChat and Apple Mail do.   :-)

8) Minor Request: In Setup/Mail Filters (dialog), I would like to quickly
review my existing filters. Tried to do this by starting with the list at
the top and using [Down Arrow]. This works the first time, jumping to the
second filter, but the next [Down Arrow] takes the curser to the active
field in the "Conditions" section of the dialog, and then the arrow keys
control  the cursor within the selected field. [Tab] and [Shift] + [Tab]
move me nicely from field to field and eventually re-activate the Filter
List. Modifiers don't appear to have any effect on the arrow keys when in
the Filter List.

The fastest way I could figure to key through the Filter List was to use
the mouse. With the keyboard, it was:
 
[Down Arrow]
[Tab] 
[Tab] (Number of further tabs depends on complexity of filter)
until Filter List is active

Repeat.

I would like, with the Filter List active, to be able to [Down Arrow] my
way through my filters.

Many thanks to CTMdev and all of you who contributed to this new version!

- Chris

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Re: How to keep message toolbar as default

[Christopher Plummer]

On Tue, 25 May 2004 20:01:00 +0200, "Cap Schwartz"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, allegedly wrote: 

>Subject: How to keep message toolbar as default
>From: "Cap Schwartz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Date: Mon, 24 May 2004 13:26:56 -0700
>
>I like having the functionality of the toolbar available in messages
>(after I've double-clicked them to make them larger), but I don't like
>having to use View > Show Toolbar for each message. Is there a way to
>make this "sticky" so it becomes the default behavior until I change it?

Try toggling it using the silver(?) button in the upper right, opposite
the red,amber, green buttons. Once I switched the toolbar 'on' here, it
stayed on for new messages, after quitting/restarting PM.

- Chris

===
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===

Re: Things I miss in PM 5

[Mikael Bystr]

Mikael, [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:

>1. The status window.
Ah, how could I miss it down there to the right? Much better, actually.

Re: Opening scripts in Script Editor

[PowerMail Engineering]

cheshirekat wrote:

>>Note that PM 5.0b18 will open the script file in Script Editor or show it
>>in the Finder if you have some modifier keys pressed, so it will be hard
>>to assign a keyboard shortcut... but I will remove this in the final
>>version.

>Will this feature open the script in the default script editor or Apple's
>Script Editor? I am hoping it is the default script editor as I use Smile
>and never have any need to use Apple's Script Editor at all.

This feature has been removed from the final version, so you can use the
modifier keys in the script, or to assign a keyboard shortcut.

Jérôme - PowerMail Engineering

-
   "The Foxtrot-based search function really screams! No matter how
convoluted the search, Foxtrot returns a result in less than a second
(pretty impressive for 13K+ messages, a 60MB message DB, on a 500MHz
G4 Laptop)."
  PowerMail user comment on www.macupdate.com

 Download a demo version from www.ctmdev.com
-

Re: PM5 reattach script error

[PowerMail Engineering]

Christian Roth wrote:

>So, to really test the script, you would have needed to delete the
>attachment completely (which makes it hard to reattach, granted... :-))
>or move it to a different volume, thus really breaking the Alias.

Or just duplicate the attachment, delete the original, and try to
reattach the copy.

Jérôme - PowerMail Engineering

-
   "PowerMail is a damn fine product. I hope CTM is charging enough to
stay in business for a long time."
  Tom Dillon, PowerMail user

 Download a demo version from www.ctmdev.com
-

Re: Things I miss in PM 5

[computer artwork by subhash]

[Mikael Byström <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb am 26.5.2004 um 9:06 Uhr:]

>1. The status window.

There is a status bar at the bottom right of browser window.

>2. The buttons in the settings windows.

?

--
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Things I miss in PM 5

[Mikael Bystr]

1. The status window.
2. The buttons in the settings windows.

Strangely I didn't notice they were gone the betas.

PM 5.0 | OS X 10.3.3 | Powerbook G3/266 | 384 MB RAM | 20 GB HD

PM5 DB updating report

[Mikael Bystr]

Just letting you know that,
it took 26 hours to update the sort index and doing the conversion of my
127108 messages (462 MB) on my (quite slow) 266 G3. Everything went
smooth and I seem to have no problems so far. Naturally, I backed up the
DB prior to converting to version 5.

PM 5.0 | OS X 10.3.3 | Powerbook G3/266 | 384 MB RAM | 20 GB HD

Re: Upgrade/Import old Database

[DAN WEBER]

>Christian Meenaghan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> Ok, got my key in email for PowerMail 5, registered my copy of PowerMail
>> 5 with the new key.  At this point I was expecting a prompt asking about
>> updating my old database..as per the help file..
>>
>> Note to current PowerMail  users: Upon first launch, PowerMail 5 will
>> suggest either  updating your database or creating a new one. Converting
>> your  database is a one-way street, so make sure you have followed  the
>> previous step first.
>>
>> however, that did not happen.  now, how can i move my old database from
>> PowerMail 4 into Powermail 5?  I did not try any of the betas before this.
>
>File/Database/Switch User Environment
>
>--
>Regards, Kjell Olausson
>
>Alingsås, Sweden
>
>Umax Apus 2000|166MHz|OS 9.1|80MB/81MB WM
>CarbonLib 1.6|PM 4.2.1/10MB|3 Pane View
>
>AppleScript archives 
>Tim's PowerMail FAQ 
>
>
>
Christian,

I also was confused as to how to proceed. I exported my powermail data
base from version 4.2.1 which I was running, into a powermail exchange
file. I then imported this database file into PM 5 without any problems.

Dan

Re: SpamSieve dosn't work anymore with PM5!

[Matthias Schmidt]

besides all that what was suggested until now, which Spam Sieve version
you have?
It should be 2.1.4

all the best
Matthias

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Am/On: Tue, 25 May 2004 21:35:12 +0200 schrieb/wrote: Michael Michael Tsai

>On May 25, 2004, at 2:11 PM, listes wrote:
>
>> And well, since that very moment, PM5 doesn't connect with SpamSieve
>> anymore. **all** spam falls down in my incoming folder, and I verified
>> that the SpamSieve icon doesn't blink as it used to for each message
>> analysed -indeed SpamSieve doesn't even start if it is not already
>> running.
>> It seems the only time PM talks to SpamSieve is when I manually declare
>> a spam message (then, the SS icon blinks).
>> I also launched my previous PowerMail 4.x, it works perfectly with
>> SpamSieve...
>
>I suppose it's possible that the "SpamSieve - Evaluate.scpt" file 
>inside PowerMail is damaged. If that's the case, re-installing 5.0 
>would help.
>
>-- 
>Michael Tsai 
>