Sending, Compress and attachment Question

2007-11-29 Thread Hans Gomme
Hello,

I have three questions:

1st Why I can't see when a Attachment ist compressed (ZIP)?
2nd Is it possible to make into the mail a list of 
attachments like hat:

1. example1.doc (100KB)
2. example2.pdf (10KB)

3rd Where I can see error mesages, because today I have the 
problem that my emails don't will be send out. I only see 
that the outgoing mails was laying into the outbox as 
waiting but nothing happens?!

-- 
Greetings out of Munich
Hans



Re: Threading

2007-11-26 Thread Hans Gomme
On Mon, 26 Nov 2007 22:27:51 +0100, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> The message ID will be different for each mail within a thread, but
> there is an In-Reply-To field that contains the message ID of the
> message replied to; this is used for threading. For example, copying
>> from the header of your message:
> 
> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> In-Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> is the ID of Barbara's message
> that you replied to.

I see.

> However, sometimes threading doesn't work, either because someone
> participating in an exchange doesn't use reply or because the reply is
> to a message within a digest (which has its own message ID that is not
> connected to any thread). Or someone hits "Reply", but edits the subject
> as he really wants to start a new thread. In the first case, the thread
> breaks up into two subthreads, and in the second case, mail clients
> supporting threading will display the message within a thread it doesn't
> belong to. 

Well that can happend allways that someone destroy the 
thread.

>> The List-id field was only a smal problem for me. And for 
>> me it's not so necessary like the possibility to sort by 
>> thread.
> 
> But thankfully, filtering for List-id isn't a problem at all; you can do
> it if you want. If the mail headers do contain a List-id field, that is:
> of the 16 mailing lists I've subscribed to, only 6 use "list-id". 

Well at me (ok only subscribed to yahoo and mailman lists 
(think yahoo also use mailman) there is a list-id.
I looked into Gyazmail (because was interested) and also 
here the thread was displayed good. (without list-id).
So I asked myself how other MUA's will do it? They also 
like I would say cook only with water.

But thank you for explaining it to me. Like always to learn 
new things.



Re: Threading

2007-11-26 Thread Hans Gomme
Hi Barbara 
On Mon, 26 Nov 2007 07:40:59 -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:
> We have discussed threading before and it seems that threading is
> difficult to implement in a mail application. At that time it was
> something that was NOT going to be included in Power Mail. I missed
> threading when I first came to Power Mail but now with the other
> advantages I keep Power Mail anyway.

Well think nothing seems easy if you try it :) Some things 
are difficult other ones not so :)
Well the point is not that is will be really difficult to 
sor a mail from [EMAIL PROTECTED]

But think at that situation. You have a mailing list with 
100 e-mails and more each day.

Now at first you have a thread let's say A. Then you become 
answers on that. You will be very interested into that 
Thread. Then someone say "Hey I must look first something 
before I answer", during the time he think about comes 
another 500 Mails with other threads. Then you have the 
thread you ar interested at the bottom some answers maybe 
in the middle and other ones at the top. Think that's not 
really a good working. Or you see it not like me?
Ok now you can go and say for each thread I'm interested I 
make a subfolder and filter by topic but think that can't 
be really a solution?!  

I'm not sure but I think normal the MUA's I know do the 
threading by using the message ID. Normal every thread have 
a starting message id and if you look for example the 
message ID here (Message-Id: 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) will be during 
the thread allways the same (local part) only if a reply of 
a reply follows the host part change. 

But I'm not the real expert in this thing I only think to 
remember to read something bout the threading and how it 
normal works in MUA's.

> As for as sorting into folders by mailing list, that is easy to set up.
> Usually I use the Reply-To address when setting up the filter. Now, if
> you mean some sort WITHIN a mailing list folder, I don't do that. But I
> have a whole section of mailing lists divided by their names.
> I make a top folder that says "Mailing Lists." Nothing actually goes in
> to that folder. Then under that there are sub-folders with the name of
> each list I am on.

The List-id field was only a smal problem for me. And for 
me it's not so necessary like the possibility to sort by 
thread.



Re: Threading

2007-11-26 Thread Hans Gomme
On Mon, 26 Nov 2007 13:49:35 +0100, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Hans Glomme ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> 
>> - reciept- and reading confirmation
> 
> There is no way to be sure someone has really read your mail unless
> they've said so, and anyway, a request for automatic confirmation can be
> construed as an intrusion on privacy. If PowerMail should support this
> feature in a future version, I would instantly turn it off. This kind of
> information is nobody's business unless I decide it is.

You are right ;) But my business partner normally confirm 
it that they read. 
But what you can do and what the most server understood is, 
that you can ask the server for a delivery confirmation.
Of course you never can be sure that the recipient has read 
your mail, understood it or put it unread in the trash.


> 
>> - Threading
> 
> I've never used a mail client that supported threading, so I don't know
> _what_ I miss -- but I cannot say that I miss it. All I hear is people
> complaining about threading not working reliably. For example, I have
> subscribed to several mailing lists in digest mode. When I am replying
> to a message within a digest, I am necessarily breaking the thread;
> there's nothing I can do about it. 

Well if you got 500 Mails each day from different lists and 
searching for a special theme or want follow a longer 
thread you will know what I mean ;)
Think it's very exhausting if you don't have such a feature.

> 
>> - In some clients also the possibility to filter for mailing lists
> 
> Maybe I don't understand what you are missing, but I have filters set up
> for all the mailing lists I have subscribed to. What is it that filters
> should do that they don't do already?

Ok show me the filter for "list-id" ;) Because the list-id 
is allways the same address. In some lists you have the 
list mail into cc in other ones from an also in reply to.
-- 
Greetings
Hans