Re: PM Discussion list
Sead, Jérôme had forwarded your manual unsubscribe request last week and I looked into it immediately. However, having found that you are positively, absolutely not registered under: [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED] or any entry with your first, last or complete name Sead Lejlic, I had assumed that you had unsubscribed yourself. Apparently not. Following your message to the list this morning I looked again, and cannot find you under the above searches. You must have subscribed under another e-mail address that might get forwarded to you or so, but we can only unsubscribe known entries ! Please contact us off of the list via direct e-mail with the information and we will solve this, as it seems that our web server's form system is not processing queries correctly. Best regards, jean michel/ctm qa On Wed, 4 Oct 2006 10:37:03 +0200, Sead Lejlic [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi there, I was trying for some time to unsubscribe from the list. No success. Mails keep coming in. I contacted Jerome and really kindly asked them to fix the obvious bug in the list server that prevented me from unsubscribing (and also prevented from seeing complete mail address that mail is sent to). So, here is the deal: I want to be taken off from the list and since I have no other possibility, I will have no option but to report CTM dev as spammer. In addition, if this is not solved asap. I will have my autoreply setup to flood the list. I am sorry that this will affect all of you and certainly will not make me popular but, at least I hope that this, as the final measure will initiate those who should know how to take someone off from the list to actually do it - that is all I ask for. Best regards, Sead
Re: PM Discussion list
It'd be handy if an Unsubscribe link were put in the footer of this list's messages. T.L. Miller sez: The only time we see the middle of the road is as we run from side to side. R.O.Clark I like it. Along those lines: There's nothing in the middle of the road but yellow stripes and dead armadillos. - Jim Hightower -- -- Tom Dillon900 S. Coors Dr. DataCraft Lakewood, CO 80228 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 720/962-4880 -- Arguing with an insane sailor puts you in his boat. Both of you will sink, but he won't care. --- Sunastar --
PM Discussion list
Hi there, I was trying for some time to unsubscribe from the list. No success. Mails keep coming in. I contacted Jerome and really kindly asked them to fix the obvious bug in the list server that prevented me from unsubscribing (and also prevented from seeing complete mail address that mail is sent to). So, here is the deal: I want to be taken off from the list and since I have no other possibility, I will have no option but to report CTM dev as spammer. In addition, if this is not solved asap. I will have my autoreply setup to flood the list. I am sorry that this will affect all of you and certainly will not make me popular but, at least I hope that this, as the final measure will initiate those who should know how to take someone off from the list to actually do it - that is all I ask for. Best regards, Sead
Re: PM Discussion list
Sead Lejlic: In addition, if this is not solved asap. I will have my autoreply setup to flood the list. That's alright, we'll all forward our spam to you. -- Simon Troup Digital Music Art
Re: PM Discussion list
In addition, if this is not solved asap. I will have my autoreply setup to flood the list. I am sorry sead you are a highly respected man about your konus audio system so I understand the annoyance but what about flooding the list? ciao from italy -- A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing on usenet and in e-mail?
Re: PM Discussion list
:-) That's alright, we'll all forward our spam to you.
Re: PM Discussion list
Marco, Obviously I am not at all THAT much respected man, otherwise this situation would be promptly solved. I hate the idea of spamming the list and it really is not something I would love to do the same as I hate it being done to me. The fact is that right now I am denied my very basic right to decide if I want to be part of a list or not and as far as I am concerned, the level of frustration I have with this situation is pretty much the same as I have with all these pill pushers out there on the net. All of this has nothing to do with PM as a product. I still think it is the best mail program out there (eventhough I don't use it anymore due to a glitch with my local ascended characters and poor Unicode implementation that's nowhere on the development priority list to be fixed, but that I could understand). Best regards, Sead On Oct 4, 2006, at 10:56 AM, marco osti wrote: In addition, if this is not solved asap. I will have my autoreply setup to flood the list. I am sorry sead you are a highly respected man about your konus audio system so I understand the annoyance but what about flooding the list? ciao from italy -- A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing on usenet and in e-mail?
Re: PM Discussion list
Hi Sead, I hate the idea of spamming the list and it really is not something I would love to do the same as I hate it being done to me. I understand your frustration, but punishing the other members of the list is not the solution. Hopefully Jerome will unsubscribe you, but I hope that until then you just filter the list messages directly to your trash or blacklist them in your spam settings. Either of these solutions will minimize your aggravation while not harming other innocent parties. Jim -- Jim Pistrang
Re: PM Discussion list
Sead Lejlic hat am Mittwoch, 04. Oktober 2006 geschrieben: Obviously I am not at all THAT much respected man, otherwise this situation would be promptly solved. are-you sure that the email-address from which you send the unsubscribe- mail is the same as your address at mac.com? did-you try too to unsubscribe with this form: http://www.ctmdev.com/support/main.php?main.php?S=mailing
Re: PM Discussion list
Jim, If I was serious about it, I would have done it already and would not even bother to write about it. Cheers, Sead I understand your frustration, but punishing the other members of the list is not the solution. Hopefully Jerome will unsubscribe you, but I hope that until then you just filter the list messages directly to your trash or blacklist them in your spam settings. Either of these solutions will minimize your aggravation while not harming other innocent parties. Jim -- Jim Pistrang
Re: PM Discussion list
are-you sure that the email-address from which you send the unsubscribe- mail is the same as your address at mac.com? No, I am not sure at all about anything. What I am sure, however, is that I have unsubscribed from THIS address at least DOZEN times and I am still subscribed from THIS mail address (otherwise I could not post from THIS address). did-you try too to unsubscribe with this form: http://www.ctmdev.com/support/main.php?main.php?S=mailing This is an ongoing thing. It is not like I tried to unsubscribed yesterday. I have tried everything I was aware of before I raised this issue in front of the list members (I do respect your bandwidth). Best regards, Sead
Re: PM Discussion list
On or about 10/4/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi there, I was trying for some time to unsubscribe from the list. No success. Mails keep coming in. Last spring, I tried several times to unsubscribe from one email address, and to subscribe with another using the tool on the CTM web site. Nothing seemed to work. I never was successful at making the change. - Don -- Don V. Zahniser
Re: PM Discussion list
Don, I appreciate you sharing this experience. Best regards, Sead On Oct 4, 2006, at 1:45 PM, Don V. Zahniser wrote: On or about 10/4/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi there, I was trying for some time to unsubscribe from the list. No success. Mails keep coming in. Last spring, I tried several times to unsubscribe from one email address, and to subscribe with another using the tool on the CTM web site. Nothing seemed to work. I never was successful at making the change. - Don -- Don V. Zahniser
PM Discussion List and SpamAssasin
Hi, All- Starting yesterday (that I first noticed), approximately half of the messages from the PowerMail discussion list are tagged by SpamAssassin (run by my ISP) as spam. I was able to adjust my filters so that the PM messages wind up in my preferred folder, but they still have the subject tagging and spam analysis text incorporated in the message. A couple of the issues I found: 1) This appears to be the SpamAssassin rule that tags the PM list messages: 10 RCVD_IN_BL_SPAMCOP_NET RBL: Received via a relay in bl.spamcop.net [Blocked - see http://www.spamcop.net/bl.shtml?212.98.36.147] 2) Whatever software is altering the messages prior to my receiving them is chopping out a bunch of header material, including the 'Reply-to:' data. As I was using this to identify my PM list messages, the tagged ones went into my Spam folder. The second item really bothers me. It looks as though I may have to disable the SpamAssassin filtering, which up until now has been very helpful. Any thoughts? - Don -- Don V. Zahniser
Re: PM Discussion list
On 10/4/06, at 10:37 AM, Sead Lejlic [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: I want to be taken off from the list and since I have no other possibility, I will have no option but to report CTM dev as spammer. In addition, if this is not solved asap. I will have my autoreply setup to flood the list. I am sorry that this will affect all of you and certainly will not make me popular but, at least I hope that this, as the final measure will initiate those who should know how to take someone off from the list to actually do it - that is all I ask for. If you don't like the food on an airliner, do you rant and rave to make other passengers unhappy? Tom Miller .. The only time we see the middle of the road is as we run from side to side. R.O.Clark ...
Re: PM Discussion list
If you don't like the food on an airliner, do you rant and rave to make other passengers unhappy? The point here is not if I like that food or not, but that this food is infected with salmonella. But, then, who is talking about airliners here, I am talking about list server which sends spam. From the moment I sent my first unsubscribe message to the list server some two weeks ago all correspondence received from the list server I consider unsolicited. And, it turns out that this is not the first time it happens... And, unless I don't manage to raise awareness about it and list owners don't do something serious in order to solve the problem, it will happen to other people at some point. Do you really plan to be subscribed to this list for as long as you live?
Re: PM Discussion list
Hmm I used the link in the header of ever list email... [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the subject unsubcribe poewermain-discuss Worked fine for me. Received and email stating I was off the list and I received no more emails. resubscribed using the same format link. Users on the list I manage have problems when the email address they originally subscribed with is different from the one they send with, or if their email is forwarded thru a different server. It looks like you are using a .mac account, but are sending from an eznet.net server. Try sending the unsubscribe subject message directly from the .mac server and not thru your eznet.net account with your .mac account as the return address.
Re: PM Discussion list
Do you really plan to be subscribed to this list for as long as you live? Probably... Or at least until I stop using the product (unlikely in the near future). :-) At this point you're simply sounding like a whiney baby. Give Jerome a chance to look into it. If you consider this list spam, mark it as such and it will go into the SPAM folder or simply filter it to the trash for the time being. Trust me, you don't want to flood us with email, then you would be considered outside your ISPs use agreement and could possibly have your account yanked. For now, just give it a rest. If the problem isn't solved in a couple of days, then maybe you need to rethink things. However, 99.99% of us on this list can't help you, we don't control the list or have admin privs on this list, so give us a break. Wayne
Re(2): PM Discussion list
It's not the first time I see somebody going up in fire and explosion with blaming others and threats and all the stuff - but be aware - at least 90% of the time it's the user's error and not the ones he blames. I understand that you think that you've unsubscribed from the list, but you never describe HOW you went about to unsubscribe and what exactly you did which didn't work as expected. Basic law if you want true help is to EXACTLY note the steps undertaken, i.e. did you try unsubscribing from their list or directly from an email or did you just send CTM an email requesting it being done? What WORKS - and I'd be truly surprised if it doesn't work for you as quite a single case, but yes, it can happen and in such a case give CTM a little time to track the problem and route all PM discussion list email directly into your spam folder - anyway, what USUALLY WORKS just dandy is to use the button at the bottom of each email which was received from the discussion list - that little arrow button, click and hold onto there and you have various options.: select LIST-UNSUBSCRIBE and you should be just fine on your way of getting rid of us all. Truly, threatening to flood other users is not the way to go and is not even the way to go to get some attention. Happy unsubscribing. ---marlyse
Re: PM Discussion list
Richard, Thanks for your input. I really appreciate it. It is interesting if somehow it indicates that I am sending from eznet.net server because I have never had account with eznet.net. I am sending from .mac account. Best regards, Sead On Oct 4, 2006, at 3:26 PM, Richard Davis wrote: Hmm I used the link in the header of ever list email... [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the subject unsubcribe poewermain-discuss Worked fine for me. Received and email stating I was off the list and I received no more emails. resubscribed using the same format link. Users on the list I manage have problems when the email address they originally subscribed with is different from the one they send with, or if their email is forwarded thru a different server. It looks like you are using a .mac account, but are sending from an eznet.net server. Try sending the unsubscribe subject message directly from the .mac server and not thru your eznet.net account with your .mac account as the return address.
Re: PM Discussion list
On or about 10/4/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It is interesting if somehow it indicates that I am sending from eznet.net server because I have never had account with eznet.net. I am sending from .mac account. I am probably the only list member with an eznet.net account. It's a local ISP in Western NY. -- Don V. Zahniser
