Re: My problems with PM

[Mikael Byström]

Mikael Byström said:

>I'm assuming here that intended raised " 1 " would probably never be
>encoded as "=B9".

I meant that raised 1's probably are used very seldom in plain text
email, so perhaps it would be safe to recode all of them.

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Re: My problems with PM

[Mikael Byström]

Matthias Schmidt said:

>Maybe someone wants to wrtie a Apple Script to "debug" such messages in PM ?

I'm not sure how to do that. How could one discern between an inline "1"
that originates from the entourage bug and such that are _meant_ to be a
raised 1 (which is what we are talking about here I think)?

I looked at the problem with some messages that have 

"Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable"

and those would code "I'm" also in the source just as that (using the
Show Source script). Is this correct behaviour? Entourage messages would
code "I'm" as "I=B9m" in the source. Is this the bug? The proper ISO-
8859-1 code for " ' "is "=27", isn't it?

I see a possible solution with messages that have been sent with
Entourage could be temporarily changed to source and the "=B9" replaced
with the correct char for the encoding in question, before the message is
re-saved. 
I'm assuming here that intended raised " 1 " would probably never be
encoded as "=B9". When would an app use that code for something? Maths?

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Re: My problems with PM

[Matthias Schmidt]

Maybe someone wants to wrtie a Apple Script to "debug" such messages in PM ?

All the best

Matthias

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Am/On Fri, 12 Aug 2005 08:24:03 +0200 schrieb/wrote PowerMail Engineering:

>A-NO-NE Music wrote:
>
>>- As a non native English speaker, it is so difficult to read messages
>>sent from Entourage since these weird characters insertion, i.e., "I1m"
>>for I'm" is slowing my reading process very slow, and wish there were
>>any way to remedy this.
>
>This is an Entourage bug.
>
>
>Jérôme - PowerMail Engineering
>
>
>-
>   "PowerMail's Foxtrot search is still VERY fast and quite useable.
>I have close to 30,000 messages stored in my PowerMail message
>database - going back to 1995 or so - and PowerMail is still fast
>and responsive. Searching through the bodies of ALL of these messages
>for a keyword takes about 1 SECOND which is pretty incredible!"
>  PowerMail user comment on www.versiontracker.com
>
>
> Download a demo version from www.ctmdev.com
>-
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>
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Re: My problems with PM

[PowerMail Engineering]

A-NO-NE Music wrote:

>- As a non native English speaker, it is so difficult to read messages
>sent from Entourage since these weird characters insertion, i.e., "I1m"
>for I'm" is slowing my reading process very slow, and wish there were
>any way to remedy this.

This is an Entourage bug.


Jérôme - PowerMail Engineering


-
   "PowerMail's Foxtrot search is still VERY fast and quite useable.
I have close to 30,000 messages stored in my PowerMail message
database - going back to 1995 or so - and PowerMail is still fast
and responsive. Searching through the bodies of ALL of these messages
for a keyword takes about 1 SECOND which is pretty incredible!"
  PowerMail user comment on www.versiontracker.com


 Download a demo version from www.ctmdev.com
-

Re: My problems with PM

[A-NO-NE Music]

Matthias Schmidt / 2005/08/11 / 10:51 PM wrote:

>Hiro San,
>
>get yourself a Japanese Keyboard. It has these convenient additional keys
>left from the spacebar saying 英語 (English) and right from it saying か
>な (Kana).
>Just press English in any case. I made it a habit ... mostly ;-)

I couldn't believe you can deal with JP keyboard!  I would be so
frustrated with unintuitive key layout and that tiny space bar!
:-)

By the way, here is another PM problem (boy, I am keep adding!) that
whenever English message contains UTF-8 entry such as this one, the
message letter spacing gets so tight which makes it so difficult to read.

Do you know why PM does this?  I played with different fonts to no
avail.  There are some people who like to use UTF-8 character in his/her
sig, and even though the body is all English it makes message so hard to
read, and I wish there is any way to stop PM doing this.  Any idea?

-- 

- Hiro

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Re: My problems with PM

[Sean McBride]

A-NO-NE Music ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) on 2005-08-10 22:34 said:

>Is there any way to stop this behavior?
>- When list pane in 3 pane view is focused, if you hit letter 'a' by
>mistake, PM goes into spinning beachball to find a message which subject
>starts with letter 'a'.  I really wish to stop this behavior.

Me too!  Just an example for the CTM guys, incase they do not see this
behaviour:

In a mailbox with 24130 messages, sorting by 'date', 'from', or
'subject' takes only about 1 second (great!) but pressing 'b' when
sorted by subject and with no message selected takes 54 seconds to
select the message!!  CPU usage does _not_ go to 100%, btw.

-- 
"we are now sucking almost 1000 barrels of oil from the ground every second"

Re: My problems with PM

[Matthias Schmidt]

Hiro San,

get yourself a Japanese Keyboard. It has these convenient additional keys
left from the spacebar saying 英語 (English) and right from it saying か
な (Kana).
Just press English in any case. I made it a habit ... mostly ;-)

All the best

Matthias

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Am/On Wed, 10 Aug 2005 22:34:15 -0400 schrieb/wrote A-NO-NE Music:

>
>I have one more to add.
>
>Is there any way to stop this behavior?
>- When list pane in 3 pane view is focused, if you hit letter 'a' by
>mistake, PM goes into spinning beachball to find a message which subject
>starts with letter 'a'.  I really wish to stop this behavior.
>
>This is what's happening to me.
>[SPACE] is to scroll displayed message body, which I use a lot, almost
>all the messages viewing.  If I am back and forth between iChat and PM,
>I often forget my IME (Kotoeri) is engaged.  If I hit [SPACE] expecting
>to scroll the message body but with IME engaged, PM goes into looong
>spinning beachball to find message subject starts with 0x3000 (I think),
>and I have to go to make coffee :_(
>
>-- 
>
>- Hiro
>
>Hiroaki Honshuku, A-NO-NE Music, Boston, MA
> 
>
>
>
>

Re: My problems with PM

[A-NO-NE Music]

I have one more to add.

Is there any way to stop this behavior?
- When list pane in 3 pane view is focused, if you hit letter 'a' by
mistake, PM goes into spinning beachball to find a message which subject
starts with letter 'a'.  I really wish to stop this behavior.

This is what's happening to me.
[SPACE] is to scroll displayed message body, which I use a lot, almost
all the messages viewing.  If I am back and forth between iChat and PM,
I often forget my IME (Kotoeri) is engaged.  If I hit [SPACE] expecting
to scroll the message body but with IME engaged, PM goes into looong
spinning beachball to find message subject starts with 0x3000 (I think),
and I have to go to make coffee :_(

-- 

- Hiro

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Re: My problems with PM

[Matthias Schmidt]

this mostly also works fine for me, biut not always.

I have a problem with text attachment sent by windows mail-clients and
I'd like to see that CTM is going to solve that one.


All the best

Matthias

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Am/On Wed, 10 Aug 2005 13:33:05 -0400 schrieb/wrote Tom Miller:

>A-NO-NE Music sez:
>>
>>>- Long hyperlink, even with < and >. gets broken by extra space at
>>>return.  What I have been doing is to "unwrap" first then delete each
>>>space.  I wish this were easier.
>
>On 8/10/05, at 1:11 PM, Michael Lewis, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
>
>>I'd like to second this one. I don't remember this being an issue before
>>the latest versions, but I admit I could be misremembering. Has it always
>>been like this? If so, I must run into it just enough to know it happens,
>>but not enough that it's made me complain yet. Since someone else started
>>it :)
>
>I've seen this extra space problem before, but I just clicked on a URL
>that was on 3 lines and it worked perfectly.
>
>Tom Miller, 10.4.2 & 5.2.1
>...
>"The only time we see the middle of the road is as  
>we run from side to side." R.O.Clark 
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: My problems with PM

[Tom Miller]

A-NO-NE Music sez:
>
>>- Long hyperlink, even with < and >. gets broken by extra space at
>>return.  What I have been doing is to "unwrap" first then delete each
>>space.  I wish this were easier.

On 8/10/05, at 1:11 PM, Michael Lewis, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:

>I'd like to second this one. I don't remember this being an issue before
>the latest versions, but I admit I could be misremembering. Has it always
>been like this? If so, I must run into it just enough to know it happens,
>but not enough that it's made me complain yet. Since someone else started
>it :)

I've seen this extra space problem before, but I just clicked on a URL
that was on 3 lines and it worked perfectly.

Tom Miller, 10.4.2 & 5.2.1
...
"The only time we see the middle of the road is as  
we run from side to side." R.O.Clark 

Re: My problems with PM

[Michael Lewis]

A-NO-NE Music sez:

>- Long hyperlink, even with < and >. gets broken by extra space at
>return.  What I have been doing is to "unwrap" first then delete each
>space.  I wish this were easier.

I'd like to second this one. I don't remember this being an issue before
the latest versions, but I admit I could be misremembering. Has it always
been like this? If so, I must run into it just enough to know it happens,
but not enough that it's made me complain yet. Since someone else started
it :)

-- 
Michael Lewis
Off Balance Productions
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