Re(2): Zip Compression (+ encryption)
I have also seen reports that Panther (OS X 10.3) may support ZIP compression at the system level. However, this seems unlikely given the lack of a common standard for ZIP compression. What may be of more concern to CTM is if Apple Mail starts to support standard encryption and digital signatures for e-mail, such as those offered by VeriSign etc. PM's inability to support such systems means that I am forced to use Outlook (on a Windows PC) for e-mail with one of my clients. At Tue, Aug 19, 2003, the nimble fingers of Rick Lecoat typed the following: From PM's point of view, the zip battle may be a moot point. The battle to be the 'standard' Zip will presumably force Aladdin to pick one format or the other for integration into Stuffit. Since PowerMail simply leverages the Stuffit engine for it's compression abilities, it follows that Aladdin's choice will decide which Zip format PM uses, not CTM. -- Mark Smith (The Red Whales Rool) Ashiya, Hyogo, Japan. Selected Japanese match reports and league tables. http://www2.odn.ne.jp/~hab26240/footy/soccer.htm
Re: Zip Compression
I agree with you. But on the other hand: if this forking out does happen you cannot win anyway. And my guess is that Aladdin will not actively develop Zip on the Mac platform as they set their goals on SitX there. And if the embedded zip format in the engine is legacy 2003 that will be compatible for a very long time! Mirko Rick Lecoat said: From PM's point of view, the zip battle may be a moot point. The battle to be the 'standard' Zip will presumably force Aladdin to pick one format or the other for integration into Stuffit. Since PowerMail simply leverages the Stuffit engine for it's compression abilities, it follows that Aladdin's choice will decide which Zip format PM uses, not CTM. Rick -- G4/500 MHz (DP) :: OS X 10.2.6 :: 768 MB RAM PM 4.1.3 :: 3 pane mode www.sharkattack.co.uk -- Original message: Received from Wayne Brissette on 18/8/03 at 12:17 pm That brings me to a question that I have lingereing for a while now: Modern incarnations of Stuffit all have the capability of creating Zip-archives. Could we implement an option to use Zip alongside of Sit? It makes it a lot easier to communicate directly from withing PM. Mirko Just as an FYI, there are two versions of the PC ZIP format currently fighting it out. There was a really good article about the issues and problems created by this in a recent CNET article. If I can find the article, I'll post the link. -- Mirko Kranenburg Maastricht, Netherlands e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] OS X 10.2.6, QuickSilver 733, 1Gb RAM Freeway Pro 3.5, NavPak, GraphPak PowerMail 4.1.3, 3 panes the whole MarinerPak
Re: Zip Compression
From PM's point of view, the zip battle may be a moot point. The battle to be the 'standard' Zip will presumably force Aladdin to pick one format or the other for integration into Stuffit. Since PowerMail simply leverages the Stuffit engine for it's compression abilities, it follows that Aladdin's choice will decide which Zip format PM uses, not CTM. Rick -- G4/500 MHz (DP) :: OS X 10.2.6 :: 768 MB RAM PM 4.1.3 :: 3 pane mode www.sharkattack.co.uk -- Original message: Received from Wayne Brissette on 18/8/03 at 12:17 pm That brings me to a question that I have lingereing for a while now: Modern incarnations of Stuffit all have the capability of creating Zip-archives. Could we implement an option to use Zip alongside of Sit? It makes it a lot easier to communicate directly from withing PM. Mirko Just as an FYI, there are two versions of the PC ZIP format currently fighting it out. There was a really good article about the issues and problems created by this in a recent CNET article. If I can find the article, I'll post the link.
Re(2): Zip Compression
Fully agree with the rant, and my point is that implementing Zip- compression will lessen the bothering... I use the Stuffit option quite frequently for sending info between office and home, files are more robust that way. Mirko -- Mirko Kranenburg Maastricht, Netherlands e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] OS X 10.2.6, Quicksilver 733, 1 Gb RAM Freeway Pro, NavPack, GraphPack, PowerMail 4.1.3, 3 panes The whole MarinerPak On Mon, 18 Aug 2003 08:17:58 -0400 Michael Lewis wrote: Wayne Brissette sez: Just as an FYI, there are two versions of the PC ZIP format currently fighting it out. There was a really good article about the issues and problems created by this in a recent CNET article. If I can find the article, I'll post the link. This may be the one you're speaking of, Wayne: Is Zip Coming Undone? http://news.com.com/2100-1046_3-5062423.html I never use any email program's StuffIt compression, anyway. I've always stuffed or zipped my files myself before attaching them so I could better control their form and names, as well as choose the appropriate compression for whoever I was sending the file to. I did this even when I was a Claris Emailer user. As long as mac users want StuffIt files and PC users want Zip files, I'll be doing the same thing, no matter what changes are made to an email program. Some day it would be nice if my PC clients just listened to me and loaded StuffIt Expander on their systems (it's free) so they could handle everything, but everyone acts like it's such a bother. So, I continue having to be the one bothering. :) /rant off :) -- Michael Lewis Off Balance Productions [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.offbalance.com
Re: Zip Compression
Michael Lewis [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Monday, August 18, 2003 stated: This may be the one you're speaking of, Wayne: That's it! Thanks! Wayne -- sans la Musique la Vie serait une Erreur Without music, life would be a serious mistake. - Frederich Nietzsche Live DAT Music Page: http://homepage.mac.com/wayneb/ Wayne's Music Calendar: http://ical.mac.com/wayneb/Music PowerMail AppleScript Archives: http://homepage.mac.com/wayneb/powermail.html Music Currently playing: Jason Ringenberg Oh Lonesome Prairie : A Pocketful Of Soul
Re: Zip Compression
Wayne Brissette sez: Just as an FYI, there are two versions of the PC ZIP format currently fighting it out. There was a really good article about the issues and problems created by this in a recent CNET article. If I can find the article, I'll post the link. This may be the one you're speaking of, Wayne: Is Zip Coming Undone? http://news.com.com/2100-1046_3-5062423.html I never use any email program's StuffIt compression, anyway. I've always stuffed or zipped my files myself before attaching them so I could better control their form and names, as well as choose the appropriate compression for whoever I was sending the file to. I did this even when I was a Claris Emailer user. As long as mac users want StuffIt files and PC users want Zip files, I'll be doing the same thing, no matter what changes are made to an email program. Some day it would be nice if my PC clients just listened to me and loaded StuffIt Expander on their systems (it's free) so they could handle everything, but everyone acts like it's such a bother. So, I continue having to be the one bothering. :) /rant off :) -- Michael Lewis Off Balance Productions [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.offbalance.com
Re: Zip Compression
Mirko Kranenburg [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 8/18/03 at 5:51 stated: That brings me to a question that I have lingereing for a while now: Modern incarnations of Stuffit all have the capability of creating Zip-archives. Could we implement an option to use Zip alongside of Sit? It makes it a lot easier to communicate directly from withing PM. Mirko Just as an FYI, there are two versions of the PC ZIP format currently fighting it out. There was a really good article about the issues and problems created by this in a recent CNET article. If I can find the article, I'll post the link. Wayne -- I could tell you a million stories, I could cost you your beliefs. But, I've never stolen from a honest man, 'cause I'm the prince of thieves. -- Prince of Theives: Walking Wounded Live DAT Music Page: http://homepage.mac.com/wayneb/ Wayne's Music Calendar: http://ical.mac.com/wayneb/Music PowerMail AppleScript Archives: http://homepage.mac.com/wayneb/powermail.html Music Currently playing:
Zip Compression
That brings me to a question that I have lingereing for a while now: Modern incarnations of Stuffit all have the capability of creating Zip-archives. Could we implement an option to use Zip alongside of Sit? It makes it a lot easier to communicate directly from withing PM. Mirko Don V. Zahniser said: Hi, Everyone - I was busy being perplexed why, when I have Stuffit Deluxe 7.03 installed, PowerMail showed both the preference for Stuffing attachments and the option for Stuffing an attachment in a note dimmed out. It turns out that the explanation and work-around are quite simple: PowerMail is looking for the 'Stuffit Engine' extension, which in Stuffit Deluxe 7.03 is named 'StuffitEngineShell'. I made a copy of 'StuffitEngineShell', renamed the copy to 'Stuffit Engine', and PowerMail is now Stuffit-enabled. -- Don V. Zahniser [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Mirko Kranenburg Maastricht, Netherlands e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] OS X 10.2.6, QuickSilver 733, 1Gb RAM Freeway Pro 3.5, NavPak, GraphPak PowerMail 4.1.3, 3 panes the whole MarinerPak
