Re: [NF] VSS error - or not

2006-11-02 Thread Garrett Fitzgerald

On 11/2/06, Eugene Vital <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Yes, switch to Subversion as fast as you can. We did and it has been
nothing but smooth sailing ever since...we never looked back..


Eugene, are you keeping form/classes/reports in Subversion too? If so,
are you just checking in the binary files, or using something like
scX?

I love TortoiseSVN for PRGs, but haven't quite made the leap to binary
files yet...


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RE: [OT] Insulting the Generals

2006-11-02 Thread Jim Felton
As well as about 30%  of the Dems.  Seems they don't Kerry in their
neighborhood either.

Jim

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Subject:[OT] Insulting the Generals

Gee, when someone makes an Iraq remark designed to ding the
President's intelligence, the right wing machine responds in lock-
step that they are outraged that Kerry is insulting the troops.

But when a Republican insults the Generals - well, that's perfectly OK.

- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
House Majority Leader John Boehner: Wolf, I understand that, but
let's not blame what's happening in Iraq on Rumsfeld.
Wolf Blitzer: But he's in charge of the military.
Boehner: But the fact is the generals on the ground are in charge and
he works closely with them and the president.
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

So let's blame the generals! It's all their fault!


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Re: [OT] No children left behind vs military recruitment

2006-11-02 Thread Helio W.

Add to that list Mike "Mr. Garrisson" Madigan and Pete "Tom Cruise" Theisen.

On 11/2/06, Virgil Bierschwale <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Agreed..!!!






Hmm, Virgil's right then:

>> "Bring back the draft..."
>
> Yeah, and let's start with Cheney, Rove, Wolfowitz, Hastert,  Limbaugh,
> Falwell, O'Reilly, Savage, Scarborough...
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Re: [ADMIN] Test

2006-11-02 Thread Ed Leafe

On Nov 2, 2006, at 7:00 PM, Jean Laeremans wrote:


Nothing seems to be coming through...

Sure does here


	Yeah, well, some emails came through 4 hours after they were sent.  
The DNS change really screwed things up.


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Re: [OT] 1 in 5 children can't find the UK on a map.

2006-11-02 Thread Ricardo Aráoz
El Jueves 02 Noviembre 2006 02:34, Michael Madigan escribió:
> Except all the Argentinian women are HIV +.
>

Hahaha! Poor Mike, he's MadAgain. But I admit it's my fault. I shouldn't pick 
on him, even if he's such an easy target.


> --- Pete Theisen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Wednesday 01 November 2006 20:51, Ricardo Aráoz
> > wrote:
> >
> > Hi Ricardo!
> >
> > I have a neighbor who spends all the time he can in
> > Argentina. He likes the
> > way women in Argentina treat him, not feminists like
> > we mostly have here.
> > Feminists are disgusting, might as well be going out
> > with a faggot.
> >
> > > El Miércoles 01 Noviembre 2006 23:06, Pete Theisen
> >
> > escribió:
> > > > On Wednesday 01 November 2006 18:11, Ricardo
> >
> > Aráoz wrote:
> > > > Hi Ricardo!
> > > >
> > > > I work for really poor wages. How many pesos for
> >
> > a  loaf of bread? What
> >
> > > > kind of pesos, Mexican, Brazilian?
> > >
> > > Hi,
> > >   well it's been ages since I bought some bread.
> >
> > The pesos are Argentine
> > --
> > Regards,
> >
> > Pete
> > http://www.pete-theisen.com/
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Re: [OT] 1 in 5 children can't find the UK on a map.

2006-11-02 Thread Ricardo Aráoz
El Jueves 02 Noviembre 2006 00:08, Pete Theisen escribió:
> On Wednesday 01 November 2006 20:51, Ricardo Aráoz wrote:
>
> Hi Ricardo!
>
> I have a neighbor who spends all the time he can in Argentina. He likes the
> way women in Argentina treat him, not feminists like we mostly have here.
> Feminists are disgusting, might as well be going out with a faggot.
>

M... Women are women. All different, all interesting and worth my while.

Besides I am a Feminist. I would love it if a woman pays my bills, and if a 
woman will open doors for me and give me her seat I am most thankfull and 
even willing to cook if she goes to work. 

Now I won't agree to give birth, that's where I draw the line  ;c)

> > El Miércoles 01 Noviembre 2006 23:06, Pete Theisen escribió:
> > > On Wednesday 01 November 2006 18:11, Ricardo Aráoz wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi Ricardo!
> > >
> > > I work for really poor wages. How many pesos for a  loaf of bread? What
> > > kind of pesos, Mexican, Brazilian?
> >
> > Hi,
> > well it's been ages since I bought some bread. The pesos are Argentine


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Re: [NF] VSS error - or not

2006-11-02 Thread Eugene Vital

Lou Syracuse wrote:

I run an Analyze nightly on our VSS repository (.NET projects, no VFP).
I keep 7 days of logs, so I can see what is going on.
 
Everyday analyze.log reports no errors.  Always looks like this:
 
Analyze Visual SourceSafe Version 6.0d (Build 31222)

Database analysis in progress @ 11/01/06;10:50p.
Building the project list.
Checking cross file relationships.
Checking parent/child relationships.
Started analyzing user management system.
Successfully completed analyzing the user management system.
Validating the Rights system.
Analysis complete @ 11/01/06;10:50p
 No errors or inconsistencies found.

 
 
However a few days ago it started creating an analyze.bad file, and does so

every day.  It is a series of two lines that repeat over and over again,
something like this: 
 
\\dev\eisdevc\programs\mnintranet\data\j\jqba
 
\\dev\eisdevc\programs\mnintranet\data\l\lqba
 
 
If Analyze reports no problems, but gives me a 'bad' file... do we really
have a problem or not?  
 
Any thoughts would be appreciated,
 
  
Yes, switch to Subversion as fast as you can. We did and it has been 
nothing but smooth sailing ever since...we never looked back..


Just do a Google search on VSS errors/corruption and you will see how 
bad it really is. IMHO M$FT buying VSS was just a vehicle to get 
existing developers into buying their latest and greatest.



I have code from VFP, C#, Java and PHP in Subversion, using the Tortoise 
SVN client it is a breaze






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Re: [ADMIN] Test

2006-11-02 Thread Jean Laeremans

On 11/2/06, Ed Leafe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Nothing seems to be coming through...

Sure does here

A+
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Re: [OT] No children left behind vs military recruitment

2006-11-02 Thread Virgil Bierschwale

Agreed..!!!

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On Nov 2, 2006, at 8:08 AM, Jean Laeremans wrote:


Hmm, Virgil's right then:
"Bring back the draft..."


Yeah, and let's start with Cheney, Rove, Wolfowitz, Hastert,  Limbaugh, 
Falwell, O'Reilly, Savage, Scarborough...


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[NF] VSS error - or not

2006-11-02 Thread Lou Syracuse
I run an Analyze nightly on our VSS repository (.NET projects, no VFP).
I keep 7 days of logs, so I can see what is going on.
 
Everyday analyze.log reports no errors.  Always looks like this:
 
Analyze Visual SourceSafe Version 6.0d (Build 31222)
Database analysis in progress @ 11/01/06;10:50p.
Building the project list.
Checking cross file relationships.
Checking parent/child relationships.
Started analyzing user management system.
Successfully completed analyzing the user management system.
Validating the Rights system.
Analysis complete @ 11/01/06;10:50p
 No errors or inconsistencies found.

 
 
However a few days ago it started creating an analyze.bad file, and does so
every day.  It is a series of two lines that repeat over and over again,
something like this: 
 
\\dev\eisdevc\programs\mnintranet\data\j\jqba
 
\\dev\eisdevc\programs\mnintranet\data\l\lqba
 
 
If Analyze reports no problems, but gives me a 'bad' file... do we really
have a problem or not?  
 
Any thoughts would be appreciated,
 
Lou
Lou Syracuse 
Senior Programmer/Analyst 
Executive Information Systems 
Merle Norman Cosmetics, Inc. 

 
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Re: [OT] Florida ballot terminals favor Republicans

2006-11-02 Thread Michael Madigan
That's because Democrats are friggin idiots.  Nothing
but the lowest of the low in intellectual ability.  
Remember the Buchanon butterfly ballot? 

Dummies.  There should be an IQ test before people are
allowed to vote.




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>  florida_terminals_dont_cooperate/>
> 
> ( -or- http://tinyurl.com/y44q2b )
> 
> - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
> - - - - - - - - -
> Florida voters using electronic ballot machines are
> having persistent  
> problems choosing Democrats in early elections, the
> Miami Herald  
> reports.
> The touch-screen gizmos seem strangely attracted to
> Republican  
> candidates. One voter needed assistance from an
> election official,  
> and even then, needed three tries to convince the
> machine that he  
> wanted to vote for Democrat Jim Davis in the
> gubernatorial race, not  
> his Republican opponent Charlie Crist.
> Another voter who went Democrat across the board
> kept finding  
> Republicans listed in the summary screen. He made
> repeated attempts  
> until, finally, the machine registered his votes
> correctly, and he  
> cast his ballot.
> - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
> - - - - - - - - -
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Re: Return value from form created in code

2006-11-02 Thread Paul Newton

Dave Crozier wrote:

Paul,
Forgot to say, the button on the form is visible on the form as soon as it
is created on my system VFP9 SP1.

You only need to make an object visible if you create it using CreateObj or
equivalent so I can't help you there and I would think it is a video
card/driver problem.

Try the obvious, quit VFP then reload first though.


Solved !





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RE: [NF] I want one I want one

2006-11-02 Thread Tristan Leask
Shame it's not really 3D.  To me it looks as though the flat image just
follows you round when you walk around it.

Tristan

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Subject: [NF] I want one I want one

Anyone fance a really 30 foot 3D Monitor in the office then?
 
http://www.engadget.com/2006/11/02/cheoptics360-the-future-of-3d-video-i
s-he
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Re: Return value from form created in code

2006-11-02 Thread Paul Newton

Many thanks, Dave

Dave Crozier wrote:

Paul,
The simple answer is you can't really as focus will onl;y pass to the
calling program once the firm itself has been destroyed unfortunately and
the object reference disappears after the form is closed but BEFORE the next
line of code. 


I think I'd do the following:
1. Create a custom object called some derivative of the form object e.g
oForm_Return_Object from within the form (within the init() function or even
the unload() function which is JUST before the form object is released)

2. Create the return value as a property  of the Return Object
(oObj.Addproperty(<>, <<,vValue>>) in the Unload() event. 


3. In your program flow, the form instance will then be released when you
close the form (release()) in the normal way and control returned to your
mainline program. You can examine the oForm_Return_Object and extracting the
return value before releasing/destroying it.

Hope this helps. 


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Subject: Re: Return value from form created in code

Dave

Tx for the reply.  I have been playing around with your code for a few
minutes and have two questions. 


1. How would you modify the code to make the form modal ?

2. Why is the "Close" button invisible until I grab and move the form with
the mouse ?  I have tried putting btnClose.Visible = .T. in various places
and am getting some weird results (like the form background not
showing)

TIA

Dave Crozier wrote:
  

Paul,
Mistake in your coding in that you don’t pass the "init() parameter" 
as a string


Also you can use non modal forms to do the same thing - just as an 
aside - see below!


* Returning data back from a non modal form
*
? Create_Form("Hello")

***
* Create the Form and return Back Values
*
Procedure Create_Form(pcVar)
Local o
Local lnRetVal

  o = CREATEOBJECT("MyForm", pcVar) 
  o.Show(2)


  Do While .t.
DoEvents
Wait Window Nowait Noclear o.nStatus
If o.nStatus=-1
  lnRetval=o.cRetvar
  Release o
  exit
Endif
  Enddo
  *
Return lnRetVal



* Form Class
*
DEFINE CLASS MyForm AS Form
Add Object btnClose as CommandButton

  cRetVar = 0
  nStatus=0
   
  PROCEDURE Init()

  PARAMETERS tcRetVar
This.btnClose.Caption="Close"
=BindEvent(This.btnClose,"Click",This, 
"SomeProcThatSetsTheReturnValue")


THIS.cRetVar = tcRetVar
  ENDPROC
   
  PROCEDURE SomeProcThatSetsTheReturnValue

This.cRetVar="Hello Modified"
STORE -1 TO THISFORM.nStatus
  ENDPROC
  *
ENDDEFINE

  







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[NF] How much is that going to cost?

2006-11-02 Thread Russell Stephen


Or which shade of red is your hat?

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[ADMIN] Server problems

2006-11-02 Thread Ed Leafe
	Things are up in the air here at leafe.com, due to an ethernet port  
on my server suddenly dying. Once i figured out why I couldn't  
connect to the internet, I was lucky enough to have an old 10Mbps  
card in an old G3 Mac available. I added that to the server, and  
after a bit of reconfiguring, it's up and running.


	One problem is that with a new MAC address on the card, RoadRunner  
gave me a new IP address. I'm in the process of updating the DNS, but  
that can take a while until all the DNS servers are updated  
downstream. So please bear with me until things settle down a bit.


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[NF] IE7 Breaks Older QuickBooks

2006-11-02 Thread Ted Roche

Over at Shedding Some Light, Rick Schummer blogs IE7 Breaks Older QuickBooks:

http://rickschummer.com/blog/2006/11/ie7-breaks-older-quickbooks.html

http://tinyurl.com/yz4z43

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RE: [NF] Dial-up hell

2006-11-02 Thread Michael Madigan
Yep, Fairfield.  No highspeed in the timeshares.

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> > 
> > How do people use dialup?
> 
> What company, Fairfield?  If so I'll be going in 3
> weekends there.  Getting
> a free room for the UT vs. Vandy game!!  Lets Go
> Vols!
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Re: [OT] Seymour Hersh Thinks He's John F'ing Kerry

2006-11-02 Thread Michael Madigan
Seymour Butts is more like it.  

Thank God John Kerry lost.  He can't stop himself from
denigrating the military.  

Pretty funny.  Clinton couldn't keep his schlong (Hal)
in his pants, Kerry can't stop putting down the
troops, Howard Dean can't stop putting his foot in his
mouth.

A bunch of psychotics.


--- Robert Calco <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> http://www.mcgilldaily.com/view.php?aid=5450
> 
> - - -
> 
> These whack jobs on the left sure love the
> superlative degree when it  
> comes to attacking people.
> 
> WRT to John F'ing Kerry's constant disparaging
> remarks about our  
> troops -- not just the other day, but throughout his
> political career  
> -- all I can say is, wow, did we dodge a bullet to
> the skull in 2004!
> 
> God bless our troops, and keep idiots like Kerry and
> his buddies out  
> of committee chairmanships.
> 
> - Bob
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RE: [OT] Insulting the Generals

2006-11-02 Thread Hal Kaplan
=> 
=> > You're not listening Ed.  Virtually every general on the 
=> payroll now 
=> > ultimately owes his current position to George W. Bush.  
=> Any general 
=> > who is not doing what the CinC wants is guilty of insubordination, 
=> > trial under the UCMJ, and ultimately death.
=> >
=> > So who is in charge?
=> 
=>  Your missing a link in the chain of command. The 
=> Secretary of Defense is above the generals; it is he who 
=> reports to the President.  
=> Boehner stated that the generals were the ones in charge, 
=> and thus the ones to blame for the Iraq mess.
=> 
=> -- Ed Leafe

It's been a while, so I might be wrong.  The Secretary of Defense is not 
mandated by the Constitution.  The Secretary may have as much or as little 
power as the CinC (who is mandated by the Constitution) allows the Secretary to 
have.  You can try twisting this any way you like, but where I come from (and I 
believe it applies everywhere), the CinC aka the President aka THE DECIDER has 
all responsibility for everything that happens in the military.

The real culprit here is Wolf Blitzer who did not clarify this concept during 
the interview AFAIK.

HALinNY

P.S. I guess this is all related to Kerry's Komment.  Jay Leno explained the 
whole thing best (I think):  The only difference between Kerry and Bush is that 
Bush has said so many stupid things, no one pays any attention anymore.  
(Paraphrased)


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RE: [NF] Dial-up hell

2006-11-02 Thread Kevin O'Shea
I only got high speed out in my country home (rural Canada) this time
last year through a highspeed wireless service. Before that, the only
option would have been satellite with dial up for outgoing packets
(which I never got).

I would never want to go back to dial up again, now that I've lived with
the difference!


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[ADMIN] Test

2006-11-02 Thread Ed Leafe

Nothing seems to be coming through...


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[NF] 35 day month?

2006-11-02 Thread Russell Stephen
We need to boost revenue.  So I'm making a change in our calendar.  :)



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[OT] Joke from my NOLA co worker.

2006-11-02 Thread Russell Stephen
Two condoms walk past a gay bar.  

One says to the other "Do you want to go in and get shit faced?"

Bad Kenneth!

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Re: [OT] Insulting the Generals

2006-11-02 Thread Ed Leafe

On Nov 2, 2006, at 11:20 AM, Hal Kaplan wrote:

You're not listening Ed.  Virtually every general on the payroll  
now ultimately owes his current position to George W. Bush.  Any  
general who is not doing what the CinC wants is guilty of  
insubordination, trial under the UCMJ, and ultimately death.


So who is in charge?


	Your missing a link in the chain of command. The Secretary of  
Defense is above the generals; it is he who reports to the President.  
Boehner stated that the generals were the ones in charge, and thus  
the ones to blame for the Iraq mess.


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RE: [OT] Insulting the Generals

2006-11-02 Thread Hal Kaplan
=> 
=> On Nov 2, 2006, at 11:08 AM, Hal Kaplan wrote:
=> 
=> > Boehner also mentioned the president.  Why are you picking on the  
=> > generals?  The president is the leader of the military's 
=> generals.   
=> > That part of the Constitution has not been overlaid by the neocons.
=> 
=>  Did you read his remarks? He explicitly said that it 
=> was the "generals on the ground" who are in charge.
=> 
=> -- Ed Leafe

You're not listening Ed.  Virtually every general on the payroll now ultimately 
owes his current position to George W. Bush.  Any general who is not doing what 
the CinC wants is guilty of insubordination, trial under the UCMJ, and 
ultimately death.

So who is in charge?


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Re: [OT] No children left behind vs military recruitment

2006-11-02 Thread Jean Laeremans

On 11/2/06, Ed Leafe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
. The point

of the Cold War and the War on Terror is to keep us afraid of a
bogeyman who's out to get us, justifying large military expenditures
to politically-connected corporations.


Really ? Learning every day.

A+
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Re: [OT] No children left behind vs military recruitment

2006-11-02 Thread Jean Laeremans

On 11/2/06, Hal Kaplan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



Finally, I don't remember any time during the Cold War (excluding the hot spots) where we 
were losing 100 or so soldiers a month.  How you could you possibly compare what is going 
on now (the "war on terrorism") to the 50-year period following World War II?



http://www.vietnam-war.info/casualties/

Ok, if you prefer to call that one "a hot spot" or deny that the
Vietnam war didn't have any connection with the Cold War...

Or :

http://www.gisearch.com/memorials/korea/

Just to name a few

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[NF] I want one I want one

2006-11-02 Thread Dave Crozier
Anyone fance a really 30 foot 3D Monitor in the office then?
 
http://www.engadget.com/2006/11/02/cheoptics360-the-future-of-3d-video-is-he
re/

"The Cheoptics360 can display both computer and film content when used
either indoors or out and scale from 1.5-meters on up to 30-meters. The
video images generated by the four projectors are re-assembled within the
prism-like pyramid through a process of mirroring and reflection making them
appear to float in mid-air"
 
Maybe the shape of cinema to come eh?
 
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Re: [OT] Insulting the Generals

2006-11-02 Thread Ed Leafe

On Nov 2, 2006, at 11:08 AM, Hal Kaplan wrote:

Boehner also mentioned the president.  Why are you picking on the  
generals?  The president is the leader of the military's generals.   
That part of the Constitution has not been overlaid by the neocons.


	Did you read his remarks? He explicitly said that it was the  
"generals on the ground" who are in charge.


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Re: [OT] No children left behind vs military recruitment

2006-11-02 Thread Ed Leafe

On Nov 2, 2006, at 11:04 AM, Hal Kaplan wrote:

Also, my reference to the 5-cent Pepsi was price-oriented.  There  
is nothing intrinsically wrong with corn-syrup drinks.  You are  
able to keep yourself from drinking furniture polish, just apply  
the same discipline to Pepsi.


I don't drink Pepsi or any other corn-syrup juice drink.

Finally, I don't remember any time during the Cold War (excluding  
the hot spots) where we were losing 100 or so soldiers a month.   
How you could you possibly compare what is going on now (the "war  
on terrorism") to the 50-year period following World War II?


I think you lost it on this one, Ed.


	First, we are losing 100 soldiers a month in the occupation of Iraq,  
which has nothing at all to do with any "war on terror" (note the  
ungrammatical phrasing preferred by this Adminisitration). The point  
of the Cold War and the War on Terror is to keep us afraid of a  
bogeyman who's out to get us, justifying large military expenditures  
to politically-connected corporations.


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RE: [OT] No children left behind vs military recruitment

2006-11-02 Thread Hal Kaplan
=> 
=> On 11/2/06, Ed Leafe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
=> 
=> > We can do without the corn syrup drinks. And the 
=> Cold War is 
=> > back, except it's been 'rebranded' as the "War on Terror".
=> 
=> Small correction "War of Terror"
=> 
=> A+
=> jml

No, no.  That is pidgin English ... the one you do not understand, Jean. 

B+
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RE: [OT] Insulting the Generals

2006-11-02 Thread Hal Kaplan
=> 
=>  Gee, when someone makes an Iraq remark designed to ding 
=> the President's intelligence, the right wing machine 
=> responds in lock- step that they are outraged that Kerry is 
=> insulting the troops.
=> 
=>  But when a Republican insults the Generals - well, 
=> that's perfectly OK.
=> 
=> - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 
=> - - - - - House Majority Leader John Boehner: Wolf, I 
=> understand that, but let's not blame what's happening in 
=> Iraq on Rumsfeld.
=> Wolf Blitzer: But he's in charge of the military.
=> Boehner: But the fact is the generals on the ground are in 
=> charge and he works closely with them and the president.
=> - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
=> 
=>  So let's blame the generals! It's all their fault!
=> 
=> 
=> -- Ed Leafe

Boehner also mentioned the president.  Why are you picking on the generals?  
The president is the leader of the military's generals.  That part of the 
Constitution has not been overlaid by the neocons.

I think Ed's e-mail has been hacked.

HALinNY


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Re: [OT] No children left behind vs military recruitment

2006-11-02 Thread Jean Laeremans

On 11/2/06, Ed Leafe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


We can do without the corn syrup drinks. And the Cold War is back,
except it's been 'rebranded' as the "War on Terror".


Small correction "War of Terror"

A+
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RE: [OT] No children left behind vs military recruitment

2006-11-02 Thread Hal Kaplan
=> 
=> On Nov 2, 2006, at 10:44 AM, Hal Kaplan wrote:
=> 
=> > I am opposed to the draft.  It is another layer of 
=> bureaucracy that is 
=> > subject to corruption.  Did you all forget (or never heard of) the 
=> > stories of favoritism, cronyism, etc. associated with the draft of 
=> > yore?
=> 
=>  Followed by...
=> 
=> > I believe that every young person (no exceptions) be 
=> required to serve 
=> > at least two years in some kind of public service.
=> 
=>  And how will that be administered? By another layer of 
=> bureaucracy that is subject to corruption?
=> 
=> > What really needs to be brought back is the 5-cent Pepsi 
=> and the Cold 
=> > War.
=> 
=>  We can do without the corn syrup drinks. And the Cold 
=> War is back, except it's been 'rebranded' as the "War on Terror".
=> 
=> -- Ed Leafe

The draft was exclusively male and had several legal "outs."  It was also 
administered at a very local level (i.e. neighborhood) by mostly volunteers or 
political appointees who were not paid, but had the "prestige" (read power) of 
the position.  This is the kind of draft organization I am referring to.  If it 
were to start over again today, it might be different.

Mandatory public service with no exceptions means just that.  No exceptions.  
Even disabled youths could participate in some kind of service.  There's no 
limit to the machinations that can be made to circumvent good intentions, but 
that does not mean we should abandon good intentions, does it?

Also, my reference to the 5-cent Pepsi was price-oriented.  There is nothing 
intrinsically wrong with corn-syrup drinks.  You are able to keep yourself from 
drinking furniture polish, just apply the same discipline to Pepsi.

Finally, I don't remember any time during the Cold War (excluding the hot 
spots) where we were losing 100 or so soldiers a month.  How you could you 
possibly compare what is going on now (the "war on terrorism") to the 50-year 
period following World War II?

I think you lost it on this one, Ed.

HALinNY


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[OT] Insulting the Generals

2006-11-02 Thread Ed Leafe
	Gee, when someone makes an Iraq remark designed to ding the  
President's intelligence, the right wing machine responds in lock- 
step that they are outraged that Kerry is insulting the troops.


But when a Republican insults the Generals - well, that's perfectly OK.

- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
House Majority Leader John Boehner: Wolf, I understand that, but  
let's not blame what's happening in Iraq on Rumsfeld.

Wolf Blitzer: But he's in charge of the military.
Boehner: But the fact is the generals on the ground are in charge and  
he works closely with them and the president.

- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

So let's blame the generals! It's all their fault!


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Re: [OT] No children left behind vs military recruitment

2006-11-02 Thread Ed Leafe

On Nov 2, 2006, at 10:44 AM, Hal Kaplan wrote:


I am opposed to the draft.  It is another layer of bureaucracy that is
subject to corruption.  Did you all forget (or never heard of) the
stories of favoritism, cronyism, etc. associated with the draft of  
yore?


Followed by...


I believe that every young person (no exceptions) be required to serve
at least two years in some kind of public service.


	And how will that be administered? By another layer of bureaucracy  
that is subject to corruption?


What really needs to be brought back is the 5-cent Pepsi and the  
Cold War.


	We can do without the corn syrup drinks. And the Cold War is back,  
except it's been 'rebranded' as the "War on Terror".


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RE: [OT] No children left behind vs military recruitment

2006-11-02 Thread Hal Kaplan
According to my son, I am a draft dodger because I enlisted in the Air
Force instead of waiting for my number to come up in the draft lottery
of 1969.

I am opposed to the draft.  It is another layer of bureaucracy that is
subject to corruption.  Did you all forget (or never heard of) the
stories of favoritism, cronyism, etc. associated with the draft of yore?

I believe that every young person (no exceptions) be required to serve
at least two years in some kind of public service.  

What really needs to be brought back is the 5-cent Pepsi and the Cold
War.

HALinNY


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RE: Dominic Help on Opera V3.05 please?

2006-11-02 Thread Dave Crozier
Thanks Dominic.
I'll take a look.

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Subject: RE: Dominic Help on Opera V3.05 please?

The information you are referring to is contained within the SNAME.DBF
record, and this is picked up at run time by the reports.  Open the report
layouts in question and check which fields are being displayed incorrectly,
and then check that back to the table.  Maybe the report is displaying a
different field.

Regards

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Sent: 02 November 2006 14:01
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: FW: Dominic Help on Opera V3.05 please?

Dominic,
Just had an enquiry off a customer who has VFP Opera 1998 vintage V3.05 on
his machine and he has moved offices and changed address, consequently Opera
doesn't seem to be picking up the new address on any of his documents
Invoices, delivery notes etc even though in the standard accounts all the
settings are as per the new address. 
 
Any Ideas on what needs changing? 
 
Or perhaps anyone else out there know ?
 
Dave Crozier
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Re: [NF] The new way that software could/should be written?

2006-11-02 Thread Jean Laeremans

On 11/2/06, Hal Kaplan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

=>
=>
=>
=>Delve into the Top Coder concept, where you work on pieces
=>of an app instead of the entire beast.
=>
=>
=>Stephen Russell

This is not new.  People who work in large firms are constantly competing with 
their peers.   It's also just another topological variant of the mythical 
man-month.  The only one who will benefit is Jean, the polyglot.


Who's using my name in vain here ?
btw dunno pidgin English seems to be the norm nowadays.

A+
jml


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RE: Return value from form created in code

2006-11-02 Thread Dave Crozier
Paul,
Forgot to say, the button on the form is visible on the form as soon as it
is created on my system VFP9 SP1.

You only need to make an object visible if you create it using CreateObj or
equivalent so I can't help you there and I would think it is a video
card/driver problem.

Try the obvious, quit VFP then reload first though.

Dave Crozier
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Subject: Re: Return value from form created in code

Dave

Tx for the reply.  I have been playing around with your code for a few
minutes and have two questions. 

1. How would you modify the code to make the form modal ?

2. Why is the "Close" button invisible until I grab and move the form with
the mouse ?  I have tried putting btnClose.Visible = .T. in various places
and am getting some weird results (like the form background not
showing)

TIA

Dave Crozier wrote:
> Paul,
> Mistake in your coding in that you don’t pass the "init() parameter" 
> as a string
>
> Also you can use non modal forms to do the same thing - just as an 
> aside - see below!
>
> * Returning data back from a non modal form
> *
> ? Create_Form("Hello")
>
> ***
> * Create the Form and return Back Values
> *
> Procedure Create_Form(pcVar)
> Local o
> Local lnRetVal
>
>   o = CREATEOBJECT("MyForm", pcVar) 
>   o.Show(2)
>
>   Do While .t.
> DoEvents
> Wait Window Nowait Noclear o.nStatus
> If o.nStatus=-1
>   lnRetval=o.cRetvar
>   Release o
>   exit
> Endif
>   Enddo
>   *
> Return lnRetVal
>
>
> 
> * Form Class
> *
> DEFINE CLASS MyForm AS Form
> Add Object btnClose as CommandButton
>
>   cRetVar = 0
>   nStatus=0
>
>   PROCEDURE Init()
>   PARAMETERS tcRetVar
> This.btnClose.Caption="Close"
> =BindEvent(This.btnClose,"Click",This, 
> "SomeProcThatSetsTheReturnValue")
>   
> THIS.cRetVar = tcRetVar
>   ENDPROC
>
>   PROCEDURE SomeProcThatSetsTheReturnValue
> This.cRetVar="Hello Modified"
> STORE -1 TO THISFORM.nStatus
>   ENDPROC
>   *
> ENDDEFINE
>
>   




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RE: Return value from form created in code

2006-11-02 Thread Dave Crozier
Paul,
The simple answer is you can't really as focus will onl;y pass to the
calling program once the firm itself has been destroyed unfortunately and
the object reference disappears after the form is closed but BEFORE the next
line of code. 

I think I'd do the following:
1. Create a custom object called some derivative of the form object e.g
oForm_Return_Object from within the form (within the init() function or even
the unload() function which is JUST before the form object is released)

2. Create the return value as a property  of the Return Object
(oObj.Addproperty(<>, <<,vValue>>) in the Unload() event. 

3. In your program flow, the form instance will then be released when you
close the form (release()) in the normal way and control returned to your
mainline program. You can examine the oForm_Return_Object and extracting the
return value before releasing/destroying it.

Hope this helps. 

Dave Crozier
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Subject: Re: Return value from form created in code

Dave

Tx for the reply.  I have been playing around with your code for a few
minutes and have two questions. 

1. How would you modify the code to make the form modal ?

2. Why is the "Close" button invisible until I grab and move the form with
the mouse ?  I have tried putting btnClose.Visible = .T. in various places
and am getting some weird results (like the form background not
showing)

TIA

Dave Crozier wrote:
> Paul,
> Mistake in your coding in that you don’t pass the "init() parameter" 
> as a string
>
> Also you can use non modal forms to do the same thing - just as an 
> aside - see below!
>
> * Returning data back from a non modal form
> *
> ? Create_Form("Hello")
>
> ***
> * Create the Form and return Back Values
> *
> Procedure Create_Form(pcVar)
> Local o
> Local lnRetVal
>
>   o = CREATEOBJECT("MyForm", pcVar) 
>   o.Show(2)
>
>   Do While .t.
> DoEvents
> Wait Window Nowait Noclear o.nStatus
> If o.nStatus=-1
>   lnRetval=o.cRetvar
>   Release o
>   exit
> Endif
>   Enddo
>   *
> Return lnRetVal
>
>
> 
> * Form Class
> *
> DEFINE CLASS MyForm AS Form
> Add Object btnClose as CommandButton
>
>   cRetVar = 0
>   nStatus=0
>
>   PROCEDURE Init()
>   PARAMETERS tcRetVar
> This.btnClose.Caption="Close"
> =BindEvent(This.btnClose,"Click",This, 
> "SomeProcThatSetsTheReturnValue")
>   
> THIS.cRetVar = tcRetVar
>   ENDPROC
>
>   PROCEDURE SomeProcThatSetsTheReturnValue
> This.cRetVar="Hello Modified"
> STORE -1 TO THISFORM.nStatus
>   ENDPROC
>   *
> ENDDEFINE
>
>   




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[NF] First, geek license plates. Now geek clothing

2006-11-02 Thread Whil Hentzen (Pro*)

http://www.flickr.com/photos/schtyle/sets/72157594349512051/

I want one.

Well, if I wore long pants, I would want one, that is.

Whil


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RE: FW: Dominic Help on Opera V3.05 please?

2006-11-02 Thread Dave Crozier
Bad Bad Tristan ... into the naughty corner 10 mins please

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Hmm, looks like he tries to keep all his reports trimmed down.  

Tristan

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Subject: RE: FW: Dominic Help on Opera V3.05 please?

Peter,
Thanks a lot that would be helpful. He doesn't seem to think that any of the
reports are other than standard Opera. He's based just down the road from
you as a matter of fact 

TRIMFAST LTD (Zip Fasteners)
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RE: FW: Dominic Help on Opera V3.05 please?

2006-11-02 Thread Dave Crozier
Thanks Peter. 

Dave Crozier
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about your age 

 

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Sent: 02 November 2006 14:35
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Subject: Re: FW: Dominic Help on Opera V3.05 please?

Dave Crozier wrote:
> Peter,
> Thanks a lot that would be helpful. He doesn't seem to think that any 
> of the reports are other than standard Opera. He's based just down the 
> road from you as a matter of fact
>
> TRIMFAST LTD (Zip Fasteners)
> 5 Cheltenham Street
> Salford, M6 6WY.
>   
I think he's got the market sewn up  Anyway just get him to name one
of the reports E.g. 
Sales/reports/invoces & credit notes
I can then test the report here with my offline copy.

Peter



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RE: [NF] The new way that software could/should be written?

2006-11-02 Thread Hal Kaplan
=> 
=> 
=> 
=> Delve into the Top Coder concept, where you work on pieces 
=> of an app instead of the entire beast.  
=> 
=> 
=> Stephen Russell

This is not new.  People who work in large firms are constantly competing with 
their peers.   It's also just another topological variant of the mythical 
man-month.  The only one who will benefit is Jean, the polyglot.

What is significantly more important is: What were the problems?  Anyone know?

HALinNY


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RE: [NF] Dial-up hell

2006-11-02 Thread William Sanders
Heya MM -

Well -
it's like this - [for a windows machine]
First you have to have a dial up account with an ISP.
Then you configure DUN [Dial Up Networking] with that ISP's information.
[dial up telephone number, your username and password]

Then you CLICK on the Connect To.. Entry for the new DUN entry that you made.

If you are in a hotel / timeshare - you might get lucky and have a data
port / jack on the phone.   If that's the case - connect your Modem INTO
that jack via the telco cable you brought with you (RJ-11 to RJ-11 ONLY).
If that's not the case - be wary - as some phone systems will fry a modem .
You can't just remove the cable at the wall and jack in with your computer.
You will probably have to dial some digits first to get an outside line.

MOST DSL providers give you a free dial up account, at anywhere from 20
hours/month to unlimited hours.

You are gonna need a dial up account to make a dial up connection work, of
course.  Did you leave the house without a dial up account ?

[if you are on a linux machine]
take a look at kppp and get your stuff set there.  If you don't know
anything about your modem - maybe its a good time to give up and pay
attention to the timeshare marketing commitee ?

Regards [and Good Luck!] [Bill]

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Re: Return value from form created in code

2006-11-02 Thread Paul Newton

Dave

Tx for the reply.  I have been playing around with your code for a few 
minutes and have two questions. 


1. How would you modify the code to make the form modal ?

2. Why is the "Close" button invisible until I grab and move the form 
with the mouse ?  I have tried putting btnClose.Visible = .T. in various 
places and am getting some weird results (like the form background not 
showing)


TIA

Dave Crozier wrote:

Paul,
Mistake in your coding in that you don’t pass the "init() parameter" as a
string

Also you can use non modal forms to do the same thing - just as an aside -
see below!

* Returning data back from a non modal form
*
? Create_Form("Hello")

***
* Create the Form and return Back Values
*
Procedure Create_Form(pcVar)
Local o
Local lnRetVal

  o = CREATEOBJECT("MyForm", pcVar) 
  o.Show(2)


  Do While .t.
DoEvents
Wait Window Nowait Noclear o.nStatus
If o.nStatus=-1
  lnRetval=o.cRetvar
  Release o
  exit
Endif
  Enddo
  *
Return lnRetVal



* Form Class
*
DEFINE CLASS MyForm AS Form 
Add Object btnClose as CommandButton


  cRetVar = 0
  nStatus=0
   
  PROCEDURE Init()

  PARAMETERS tcRetVar
This.btnClose.Caption="Close"
=BindEvent(This.btnClose,"Click",This, "SomeProcThatSetsTheReturnValue")

THIS.cRetVar = tcRetVar
  ENDPROC
   
  PROCEDURE SomeProcThatSetsTheReturnValue

This.cRetVar="Hello Modified"
STORE -1 TO THISFORM.nStatus
  ENDPROC
  *
ENDDEFINE

  





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Re: FW: Dominic Help on Opera V3.05 please?

2006-11-02 Thread Peter Cushing

Dave Crozier wrote:

Peter,
Thanks a lot that would be helpful. He doesn't seem to think that any of the
reports are other than standard Opera. He's based just down the road from
you as a matter of fact 


TRIMFAST LTD (Zip Fasteners)
5 Cheltenham Street
Salford, M6 6WY.
  

I think he's got the market sewn up 
Anyway just get him to name one of the reports E.g. 
Sales/reports/invoces & credit notes

I can then test the report here with my offline copy.

Peter



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RE: Dominic Help on Opera V3.05 please?

2006-11-02 Thread Dominic Burford
The information you are referring to is contained within the SNAME.DBF
record, and this is picked up at run time by the reports.  Open the
report layouts in question and check which fields are being displayed
incorrectly, and then check that back to the table.  Maybe the report is
displaying a different field.

Regards

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Subject: FW: Dominic Help on Opera V3.05 please?

Dominic,
Just had an enquiry off a customer who has VFP Opera 1998 vintage V3.05
on his machine and he has moved offices and changed address,
consequently Opera doesn't seem to be picking up the new address on any
of his documents Invoices, delivery notes etc even though in the
standard accounts all the settings are as per the new address. 
 
Any Ideas on what needs changing? 
 
Or perhaps anyone else out there know ?
 
Dave Crozier
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RE: FW: Dominic Help on Opera V3.05 please?

2006-11-02 Thread Tristan Leask
Hmm, looks like he tries to keep all his reports trimmed down.  

Tristan

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Conversation: FW: Dominic Help on Opera V3.05 please?
Subject: RE: FW: Dominic Help on Opera V3.05 please?

Peter,
Thanks a lot that would be helpful. He doesn't seem to think that any of
the
reports are other than standard Opera. He's based just down the road
from
you as a matter of fact 

TRIMFAST LTD (Zip Fasteners)
5 Cheltenham Street
Salford, M6 6WY.

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RE: [NF] Colour Lasers

2006-11-02 Thread Tristan Leask
Hi Guys thanks for all the info.

I am going to take your suggestions and find out what each of the costs
are on replacement cartridges and compile myself a little list with the
combined cost of pages (C + B&W) per pound.

Should be interesting which comes out top.  I will then look for some
reviews of the top few winners.

Thanks again

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[OT] Florida ballot terminals favor Republicans

2006-11-02 Thread Ed Leafe



( -or- http://tinyurl.com/y44q2b )

- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Florida voters using electronic ballot machines are having persistent  
problems choosing Democrats in early elections, the Miami Herald  
reports.
The touch-screen gizmos seem strangely attracted to Republican  
candidates. One voter needed assistance from an election official,  
and even then, needed three tries to convince the machine that he  
wanted to vote for Democrat Jim Davis in the gubernatorial race, not  
his Republican opponent Charlie Crist.
Another voter who went Democrat across the board kept finding  
Republicans listed in the summary screen. He made repeated attempts  
until, finally, the machine registered his votes correctly, and he  
cast his ballot.

- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

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RE: FW: Dominic Help on Opera V3.05 please?

2006-11-02 Thread Dave Crozier
Peter,
Thanks a lot that would be helpful. He doesn't seem to think that any of the
reports are other than standard Opera. He's based just down the road from
you as a matter of fact 

TRIMFAST LTD (Zip Fasteners)
5 Cheltenham Street
Salford, M6 6WY.


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Subject: Re: FW: Dominic Help on Opera V3.05 please?

Dave Crozier wrote:
> Dominic,
> Just had an enquiry off a customer who has VFP Opera 1998 vintage 
> V3.05 on his machine and he has moved offices and changed address, 
> consequently Opera doesn't seem to be picking up the new address on 
> any of his documents Invoices, delivery notes etc even though in the 
> standard accounts all the settings are as per the new address.
>  
> Any Ideas on what needs changing? 
>  
> Or perhaps anyone else out there know ?
>   
Hi Dave,

We are using Opera 3.06 at the moment as the system is heavily bespoked, so
don't want to upgrade.
Can you find out which report they are running to get the wrong address.
AFAIK the company address comes from the company details that are input from
menu item system/company profiles, unless the reports have been modified,
then the address might be hard coded on the 
layout.   I can check out a report for you here.

Cheers

Peter



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Dominic Help please?

2006-11-02 Thread Dave Crozier
Dominic,
Just had an enquiry off a customer who has VFP Opera 1998 vintage V3.05 on
his machine and he has moved offices and changed address, consequently Opera
doesn't seem to be picking up the new address on any of his documents
Invoices, delivery notes etc even though in the standard accounts all the
settings are as per the new address. 
 
Any Ideas on what needs changing? 
 
Or perhaps anyone else out there know ?
 
Dave Crozier
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about your age 

 
 

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Re: [NF] Dial-up hell

2006-11-02 Thread Ray Heilman

Hee Haw salutes Campbellsburg, KY...population...well you get the idea.  I
was helping my Mom with some of her computer frustrations.  She's on
dial-up, and after getting OE disabled and stopping the visible propogation
of spam by the virus on her computer, I drove five minutes down the road to
our DSL to load FireFox and ThunderBird onto my flash drive and then
returned to install it and remove the greater percentage of her future
problems.

I do appreciate our DSL, but would probably not go out and take my own life,
if we didn't have it.  For what it's worth, my parents have the DISH network
and we have a piece of metal sculpture on our chimney.  8-)

RayTheOtherRay <><

"What's the difference between Neanderthal man and Cro-Magnon man?
Linguistic competence and polychromatic cave paintings."
- The Man with the Yellow Hat

On 11/2/06, Virgil Bierschwale <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


welcome to the country...
Contrary to what you city folk believe, there is a whole bunch of people
out
there that don't even have computers and the smart ones are getting rid of
their tv's





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Re: FW: Dominic Help on Opera V3.05 please?

2006-11-02 Thread Peter Cushing

Dave Crozier wrote:

Dominic,
Just had an enquiry off a customer who has VFP Opera 1998 vintage V3.05 on
his machine and he has moved offices and changed address, consequently Opera
doesn't seem to be picking up the new address on any of his documents
Invoices, delivery notes etc even though in the standard accounts all the
settings are as per the new address. 
 
Any Ideas on what needs changing? 
 
Or perhaps anyone else out there know ?
  

Hi Dave,

We are using Opera 3.06 at the moment as the system is heavily bespoked, 
so don't want to upgrade.
Can you find out which report they are running to get the wrong 
address.  AFAIK the company address comes from the company details that 
are input from menu item system/company profiles, unless the reports 
have been modified, then the address might be hard coded on the 
layout.   I can check out a report for you here.


Cheers

Peter



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FW: Dominic Help on Opera V3.05 please?

2006-11-02 Thread Dave Crozier
Dominic,
Just had an enquiry off a customer who has VFP Opera 1998 vintage V3.05 on
his machine and he has moved offices and changed address, consequently Opera
doesn't seem to be picking up the new address on any of his documents
Invoices, delivery notes etc even though in the standard accounts all the
settings are as per the new address. 
 
Any Ideas on what needs changing? 
 
Or perhaps anyone else out there know ?
 
Dave Crozier
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about your age 

 
Message sent again as the first time was HTML - Sorry!!! 


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RE: Return value from form created in code

2006-11-02 Thread Dave Crozier
Paul,
Mistake in your coding in that you don’t pass the "init() parameter" as a
string

Also you can use non modal forms to do the same thing - just as an aside -
see below!

* Returning data back from a non modal form
*
? Create_Form("Hello")

***
* Create the Form and return Back Values
*
Procedure Create_Form(pcVar)
Local o
Local lnRetVal

  o = CREATEOBJECT("MyForm", pcVar) 
  o.Show(2)

  Do While .t.
DoEvents
Wait Window Nowait Noclear o.nStatus
If o.nStatus=-1
  lnRetval=o.cRetvar
  Release o
  exit
Endif
  Enddo
  *
Return lnRetVal



* Form Class
*
DEFINE CLASS MyForm AS Form 
Add Object btnClose as CommandButton

  cRetVar = 0
  nStatus=0
   
  PROCEDURE Init()
  PARAMETERS tcRetVar
This.btnClose.Caption="Close"
=BindEvent(This.btnClose,"Click",This, "SomeProcThatSetsTheReturnValue")

THIS.cRetVar = tcRetVar
  ENDPROC
   
  PROCEDURE SomeProcThatSetsTheReturnValue
This.cRetVar="Hello Modified"
STORE -1 TO THISFORM.nStatus
  ENDPROC
  *
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Re: [OT] No children left behind vs military recruitment

2006-11-02 Thread Jean Laeremans

On 11/2/06, Ed Leafe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

On Nov 2, 2006, at 8:08 AM, Jean Laeremans wrote:

> Hmm, Virgil's right then:
> "Bring back the draft..."

Yeah, and let's start with Cheney, Rove, Wolfowitz, Hastert,
Limbaugh, Falwell, O'Reilly, Savage, Scarborough...


Neat way to get rid of them tooReminds me of 'Dad's Army' though.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/bbc7/comedy/progpages/dadsarmy.shtml

A+
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Re: [OT] No children left behind vs military recruitment

2006-11-02 Thread Ed Leafe

On Nov 2, 2006, at 8:08 AM, Jean Laeremans wrote:


Hmm, Virgil's right then:
"Bring back the draft..."


	Yeah, and let's start with Cheney, Rove, Wolfowitz, Hastert,  
Limbaugh, Falwell, O'Reilly, Savage, Scarborough...


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RE: [NF] Dial-up hell

2006-11-02 Thread Stephen the Cook
Michael Madigan <> wrote:
> I'm sitting at a timeshare in Nashville and the only highspeed they
> have here is at their welcome center. 
> 
> Savages.
> 
> How do people use dialup?

What company, Fairfield?  If so I'll be going in 3 weekends there.  Getting
a free room for the UT vs. Vandy game!!  Lets Go Vols!


Stephen Russell
DBA / .Net Developer

Memphis TN 38115
901.246-0159

"Our scientific power has outrun our spiritual power. We have guided
missiles and misguided men." Dr. Martin Luther King Jr.

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Re: [OT] No children left behind vs military recruitment

2006-11-02 Thread Virgil Bierschwale

Not at all.
NOBODY wants a war, especially those who have been there.
If they do. THey're stupid and they'll get somebody killed.

Thats why I think we need to bring back the draft, get rid of tv's and 
computers and bring back some sanity into this crazy world...


Virgil Bierschwale
Armstrong and Skipper Real Estate
(830) 329-6774 Cell
(830) 864-4726 Home
(830) 864-4799 Fax
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- Original Message - 
From: "Ed Leafe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: "ProFox Email List" 
Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2006 7:02 AM
Subject: Re: [OT] No children left behind vs military recruitment



On Nov 2, 2006, at 7:38 AM, Virgil Bierschwale wrote:


I personally think everybody should have to do 4 years.

That would take care of a bunch of things, but most importantly,  these 
damn protesters would at least know what they're talking  about and the 
MBA's would have some real world experience before  they started working 
for a living.


Isn't it interesting that the majority of politicians opposing the  Iraq 
war have military experience, while the majority carrying out  the war and 
supporting it vocally do not?


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Re: [OT] No children left behind vs military recruitment

2006-11-02 Thread Jean Laeremans

On 11/2/06, Ed Leafe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

On Nov 2, 2006, at 7:38 AM, Virgil Bierschwale wrote:

> I personally think everybody should have to do 4 years.
>
> That would take care of a bunch of things, but most importantly,
> these damn protesters would at least know what they're talking
> about and the MBA's would have some real world experience before
> they started working for a living.

Isn't it interesting that the majority of politicians opposing the
Iraq war have military experience, while the majority carrying out
the war and supporting it vocally do not?


Hmm, Virgil's right then:
"Bring back the draft..."

A+
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Re: [OT] No children left behind vs military recruitment

2006-11-02 Thread Ed Leafe

On Nov 2, 2006, at 7:38 AM, Virgil Bierschwale wrote:


I personally think everybody should have to do 4 years.

That would take care of a bunch of things, but most importantly,  
these damn protesters would at least know what they're talking  
about and the MBA's would have some real world experience before  
they started working for a living.


	Isn't it interesting that the majority of politicians opposing the  
Iraq war have military experience, while the majority carrying out  
the war and supporting it vocally do not?


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Re: [OT] No children left behind vs military recruitment

2006-11-02 Thread Ed Leafe

On Nov 1, 2006, at 8:46 PM, Helio W. wrote:


What is this? Insanity?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lXXCGELP05c

http://www.alternet.org/story/14716
" As part of Bush's new plan to educate American youth, military  
recruiters
now have access to all students high school records, including  
addresses and

phone numbers. "


	Yep, that's the law. School districts have the option of setting  
things up as opt-in, but the default is opt-out. IOW, in most areas  
you have to explicitly request that your child's school not give out  
their personal information to the military recruiters.


	We did that, of course, but it really doesn't matter much. My older  
son averaged 2 calls or so a month from recruiters, even after  
telling them explicitly to mark his record as requesting no further  
contact. Guess since they're the military, they don't have to observe  
the laws that everyone else has to.


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Return value from form created in code

2006-11-02 Thread Paul Newton

Hi all

My first real attempt at working with forms in code rather than with the 
designer.  Program skeleton looks like this and it works - but are there 
better ways to do it ?


MyProg.PRG

lnRetVal = 0

o = CREATEOBJECT("MyForm", "lnRetVal")
o.WindowType = 1
o.Show()

RETURN lnRetVal

DEFINE CLASS MyForm AS Form

   cRetVar = ""
  
   PROCEDURE Init

   PARAMETERS tcRetVar
   THIS.cRetVar = tcRetVar
ENDPROC
  
   PROCEDURE SomeProcThatSetsTheReturnValue

 STORE 5 TO (THISFORM.cRetVar)
THISFORM.Release
   ENDPROC

ENDDEFINE





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Re: [OT] No children left behind vs military recruitment

2006-11-02 Thread Virgil Bierschwale

I personally think everybody should have to do 4 years.

That would take care of a bunch of things, but most importantly, these damn 
protesters would at least know what they're talking about and the MBA's 
would have some real world experience before they started working for a 
living.


As for all these people out there telling us how to run the country, well 
they would at least have a clue what is involved in running a very large 
corporation.
I won't mention names, but I can think of a couple of "holier then thou's" 
on here 


Bring back the draft...

Virgil Bierschwale
Armstrong and Skipper Real Estate
(830) 329-6774 Cell
(830) 864-4726 Home
(830) 864-4799 Fax
http://www.bierschwalesolutions.com
http://www.bierschwale.com
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- Original Message - 
From: "Helio W." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: "ProFox Email List" 
Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2006 7:46 PM
Subject: [OT] No children left behind vs military recruitment



What is this? Insanity?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lXXCGELP05c

http://www.alternet.org/story/14716
" As part of Bush's new plan to educate American youth, military 
recruiters
now have access to all students high school records, including addresses 
and

phone numbers. "


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Re: [NF] Acer Laptop

2006-11-02 Thread Virgil Bierschwale

I have an acer aspire 5670 with 2 gb ram, web cam, etc...

I've been fortunate I guess because I havent had any problems with it...

Virgil Bierschwale
Armstrong and Skipper Real Estate
(830) 329-6774 Cell
(830) 864-4726 Home
(830) 864-4799 Fax
http://www.bierschwalesolutions.com
http://www.bierschwale.com
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From: "Allen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: 
Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2006 4:29 AM
Subject: RE: [NF] Acer Laptop


I have had no ends of problems with my brand new laptop. In the end I had to
threaten then with Office of Fair Trading before I got my new one. Otherwise
they wanted to keep repairing the old one. I am not impressed and now will
not recommend them to anyone.
Pity as the laptop is really nice but the support is too important and non
existent. So many times I got asked to reload windows even though the bloody
thing didn't even work well enough to start windows in the first place.
Allen

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Peter Hart
Sent: 01 November 2006 21:23
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [NF] Acer Laptop

Hi All



Can anyone help



I have a Client who purchased from me about two years ago an Acer Laptop.
Its been back 3 times during the warranty lost for 4 months at Acer and now
has failed again out of warranty.  Its been back to Esplex who are Acer
repair agents in the UK, they are quoting £850.00 Aprox to replace the
motherboard.  Laptop repairs are quoting £450.00.  Both prices plus VAT.

Has anyone access to Acer spares UK USA or any where else.  The Model No is
TravelMate 8006LMI  The Part No of the Mother Board is
LXT4206069420029B6EF00 with a Sub Part No of LB.T4206,001



Cheers



Peter

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Re: [NF] Dial-up hell

2006-11-02 Thread Michael Hawksworth

That's not the country that's purgatory!

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Re: [NF] Dial-up hell

2006-11-02 Thread Virgil Bierschwale

welcome to the country...
Contrary to what you city folk believe, there is a whole bunch of people out 
there that don't even have computers and the smart ones are getting rid of 
their tv's


Virgil Bierschwale
Armstrong and Skipper Real Estate
(830) 329-6774 Cell
(830) 864-4726 Home
(830) 864-4799 Fax
http://www.bierschwalesolutions.com
http://www.bierschwale.com
http://www.virgilslist.com
- Original Message - 
From: "Michael Madigan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: 
Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2006 11:41 PM
Subject: [NF] Dial-up hell


I'm sitting at a timeshare in Nashville and the only
highspeed they have here is at their welcome center.

Savages.

How do people use dialup?


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Re: [NF] Dial-up hell

2006-11-02 Thread Kevin Cully
I have my parents on NetZero Accelerator.  NetZero compresses what it 
can (not some graphics and not video) before downloading it to your 
computer.  Your computer then extracts it before display.  It is faster 
than their MSN account that they had previously but that's not saying 
much.  I would have switched my parents over to Linux except that there 
isn't a service like this for the Linux OS.


You could download the Firefox extension, FasterFox.  It pre fetches 
links which utilizes idle bandwidth by downloading the pages linked from 
the page that you are currently browsing.  I haven't tried it but I've 
heard good things.  http://fasterfox.mozdev.org/


HTH

Kevin Cully
CULLY Technologies, LLC

Sponsor of Fox Forward 2006!
http://foxforward.net


Michael Madigan wrote:

I'm sitting at a timeshare in Nashville and the only
highspeed they have here is at their welcome center.  


Savages.

How do people use dialup?




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RE: [NF] Acer Laptop

2006-11-02 Thread Jim Felton
I have used PCHUB  
in the past.  They seem to have parts for about anything, but delivery is
slow.  The last time I ordered parts it took 3 weeks for the parts to come
for Hong Kong.  The company has warehouses all over the world, the result
lots of parts that can come from the other side of the world.
Jim

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Of Peter Hart
Sent:   Wednesday, November 01, 2006 4:23 PM
To: ProFox Email List
Subject:RE: [NF] Acer Laptop

Hi All



Can anyone help



I have a Client who purchased from me about two years ago an Acer Laptop.
Its been back 3 times during the warranty lost for 4 months at Acer and now
has failed again out of warranty.  Its been back to Esplex who are Acer
repair agents in the UK, they are quoting £850.00 Aprox to replace the
motherboard.  Laptop repairs are quoting £450.00.  Both prices plus VAT.

Has anyone access to Acer spares UK USA or any where else.  The Model No is
TravelMate 8006LMI  The Part No of the Mother Board is
LXT4206069420029B6EF00 with a Sub Part No of LB.T4206,001



Cheers



Peter

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Fwd: [NF]: Microsoft Again Argues Over IE7 Bug

2006-11-02 Thread MB Software Solutions

(Courtesy VFUG/Carl)

"It's a feature, not a bug."  


Microsoft Again Argues Over IE7 Bug - News by InformationWeek:
http://www.informationweek.com/news/showArticle.jhtml;jsessionid=4Q1KZDQYH32UIQSNDLPSKHSCJUNN2JVN?articleID=193500907&subSection= 





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[OT] No children left behind vs military recruitment

2006-11-02 Thread Helio W.

What is this? Insanity?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lXXCGELP05c

http://www.alternet.org/story/14716
" As part of Bush's new plan to educate American youth, military recruiters
now have access to all students high school records, including addresses and
phone numbers. "


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Re: [NF] Acer Laptop

2006-11-02 Thread Peter Cushing

Dave Crozier wrote:

Jeez Peter,
That's extremely good environmental thinkinga wooden computer! 
  
If it's good enough for a Meteor plane during the war and Morgan cars, 
then it's good enough for me.
I guess you also have a T1 Trunk  

  

Correction:
I guess yew also have a T1 Trunk 

Peter :-)



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Re: [NF] Dial-up hell

2006-11-02 Thread Alan Bourke

On Wed, 1 Nov 2006 21:41:58 -0800 (PST), "Michael Madigan"

> How do people use dialup?

My parents still have dialup, not because they can't get broadband but
because my dad is the sort of person who never had a VCR because he
reckoned would never use it. Of course, if you've never used broadband
you'll never come across the benefits, like calling your son in Boston
MA from northwest Ireland for free, using Skype! But he won't be told!



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RE: [NF] Acer Laptop

2006-11-02 Thread Allen
And a carbon fibre desk :)
Allen 

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Jeez Peter,
That's extremely good environmental thinkinga wooden computer! 

I guess you also have a T1 Trunk  

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RE: [NF] Acer Laptop

2006-11-02 Thread Dave Crozier
Jeez Peter,
That's extremely good environmental thinkinga wooden computer! 

I guess you also have a T1 Trunk  


Dave Crozier
 The secret to staying young is to live honestly, eat slowly, and to lie
about your age 

 

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Sent: 02 November 2006 11:08
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Allen wrote:
> I have had no ends of problems with my brand new laptop. In the end I 
> had to threaten then with Office of Fair Trading before I got my new 
> one. Otherwise they wanted to keep repairing the old one. I am not 
> impressed and now will not recommend them to anyone.
> Pity as the laptop is really nice but the support is too important and 
> non existent. So many times I got asked to reload windows even though 
> the bloody thing didn’t even work well enough to start windows in the
first place.
> Allen
>
>   
We bought 4 or 5 acer laptops in the last year or so and two have had to go
back due to problems. One kept freezing and the other had 2 keys die on the
keyboard. Quality seems to be an issue, so would not recommend them again.
Support were nothing special but I have dealt with worse I'm sure. Both got
fixed anyway.

Don't want to slag them off too much as I'm typing on an Acer now (touch
wood) :-)

Peter



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Re: [NF] Acer Laptop

2006-11-02 Thread Peter Cushing

Allen wrote:

I have had no ends of problems with my brand new laptop. In the end I had to
threaten then with Office of Fair Trading before I got my new one. Otherwise
they wanted to keep repairing the old one. I am not impressed and now will
not recommend them to anyone.
Pity as the laptop is really nice but the support is too important and non
existent. So many times I got asked to reload windows even though the bloody
thing didn’t even work well enough to start windows in the first place.
Allen 

  
We bought 4 or 5 acer laptops in the last year or so and two have had to 
go back due to problems. One kept freezing and the other had 2 keys die 
on the keyboard. Quality seems to be an issue, so would not recommend 
them again. Support were nothing special but I have dealt with worse I'm 
sure. Both got fixed anyway.


Don't want to slag them off too much as I'm typing on an Acer now (touch 
wood) :-)


Peter



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[OT] Seymour Hersh Thinks He's John F'ing Kerry

2006-11-02 Thread Robert Calco

http://www.mcgilldaily.com/view.php?aid=5450

- - -

These whack jobs on the left sure love the superlative degree when it  
comes to attacking people.


WRT to John F'ing Kerry's constant disparaging remarks about our  
troops -- not just the other day, but throughout his political career  
-- all I can say is, wow, did we dodge a bullet to the skull in 2004!


God bless our troops, and keep idiots like Kerry and his buddies out  
of committee chairmanships.


- Bob


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RE: [NF] AVG Anti Virus, Bad News & Good News

2006-11-02 Thread Allen
I thought it amusing that I downloaded the 7.5 and installed and the first
thing it did was find an update. Oh well.
Allen 

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Al,
Yep mine did that yesterday which is why I posted the link. 

They must have so many people to inform that they schedule them in a rota I
guess. The new 7.5  version downloaded a 500kb update yesterday and a 1.5Mb
update this morning - and they say in the blurb that the updates will be
smaller - DOH!

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RE: [NF] AVG Anti Virus, Bad News & Good News

2006-11-02 Thread Dave Crozier
Al,
Yep mine did that yesterday which is why I posted the link. 

They must have so many people to inform that they schedule them in a rota I
guess. The new 7.5  version downloaded a 500kb update yesterday and a 1.5Mb
update this morning - and they say in the blurb that the updates will be
smaller - DOH!

Dave Crozier
 The secret to staying young is to live honestly, eat slowly, and to lie
about your age 

 

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Avg came up this morning with a screen that gave the free download web site
Allen 

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Sent: 01 November 2006 19:14
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I went to www.Grisoft.com and the only 7.5 thing I see is a 'bin' file. Is
this used to update? If not, where did you find the download link for the
free version of 7.5?


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RE: [NF] Acer Laptop

2006-11-02 Thread Allen
I have had no ends of problems with my brand new laptop. In the end I had to
threaten then with Office of Fair Trading before I got my new one. Otherwise
they wanted to keep repairing the old one. I am not impressed and now will
not recommend them to anyone.
Pity as the laptop is really nice but the support is too important and non
existent. So many times I got asked to reload windows even though the bloody
thing didn’t even work well enough to start windows in the first place.
Allen 

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Sent: 01 November 2006 21:23
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Subject: RE: [NF] Acer Laptop

Hi All

 

Can anyone help

 

I have a Client who purchased from me about two years ago an Acer Laptop.
Its been back 3 times during the warranty lost for 4 months at Acer and now
has failed again out of warranty.  Its been back to Esplex who are Acer
repair agents in the UK, they are quoting £850.00 Aprox to replace the
motherboard.  Laptop repairs are quoting £450.00.  Both prices plus VAT.

Has anyone access to Acer spares UK USA or any where else.  The Model No is
TravelMate 8006LMI  The Part No of the Mother Board is
LXT4206069420029B6EF00 with a Sub Part No of LB.T4206,001

 

Cheers

 

Peter

PETER HART COMPUTERS

 



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RE: [NF] AVG Anti Virus, Bad News & Good News

2006-11-02 Thread Allen
Avg came up this morning with a screen that gave the free download web site
Allen 

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I went to www.Grisoft.com and the only 7.5 thing I see is a 'bin' file. Is
this used to update? If not, where did you find the 
download link for the free version of 7.5?


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RE: [NF] Colour Lasers

2006-11-02 Thread Allen
So you can actually get round corners ?
Allen 

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Virgil Bierschwale wrote:
> HP=Cadillac
>
Make mine a Roller 


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Re: [OT] 1 in 5 children can't find the UK on a map.

2006-11-02 Thread Jean Laeremans

On 11/2/06, Stephen the Cook <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Pete, you have no clue as to females do you?


You might as well leave out the 'as to females' part.

A+
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