Re: [OT] Crunch time!

2006-11-04 Thread Ricardo Aráoz
El Sábado 04 Noviembre 2006 00:43, Virgil Bierschwale escribió:
 And you base your understanding of what is happening in iraq from the
 actual people serving over there or perhaps what you hear from the media ?

Well you see. He uses metaphors, so I gues I can feel empathy. I have 
obviously never served there (have you?), and If I had heard from it from 
people there then it would be hearsay.
But I endured 7 years of military dictatorship, 60,000 missing people, my 
wife's grandmom kidnapped (by the state forces), raped, tortured 
(electricity, submarine, tweezers, etc). And then some. The funny thing is 
this coup d'etat (as many others all through South America) was backed, 
organized and financed by USA. So here's a tough question for you. Who do you 
think I might percieve as the thief/bully of the metaphors that have been 
going arround?
BTW, never have been a communist, I don't like them.


 Virgil Bierschwale
 Armstrong and Skipper Real Estate
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 (830) 864-4726 Home
 (830) 864-4799 Fax
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 http://www.bierschwale.com
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 - Original Message -
 From: Ricardo Aráoz [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: profox@leafe.com
 Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 8:59 PM
 Subject: Re: [OT] Crunch time!

 El Viernes 03 Noviembre 2006 22:04, Virgil Bierschwale escribió:
  Interesting concept..
  A thief breaks into your house and steals your possessions and kills your
  family.

 Oh, I see! A metaphor! Lets see You must be referring to this bush
 fellow
 going to the Iraqi's house, stealing their oil and killing their people by
 the thousands.
 But no, that's not possible. He was actually 'defending' himself. It's very
 easy to see how Iraq was such a great threat to a small country like the
 USA,
 and if you consider they are so close to each other, the danger was clear
 and
 imminent.
 Besides, one must judge him by his results, all's well that ends well. He
 invaded and now the world is a safer place, terrorism has decreased, the
 Iraqi's are safer and prospering, and the USA has been able to reduce it's
 military budget due to the fact that the world has become a peacefull place
 to live in..

  A year later he realizes you did nothing to defend yourself, so he comes
  back
 
  That doesnt sound right to me, but that is what I'm hearing.
 
  I don't believe in attacking anybody, nor do I feel that we should attack
  anybody.
  But I do believe in defense and the right to defend your family and yes,
  I would blow anybody away that threatened them.
 
  Virgil Bierschwale
  Armstrong and Skipper Real Estate
  (830) 329-6774 Cell
  (830) 864-4726 Home
  (830) 864-4799 Fax
  http://www.bierschwalesolutions.com
  http://www.bierschwale.com
  http://www.virgilslist.com
  - Original Message -
  From: Ricardo Aráoz [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: profox@leafe.com
  Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 6:57 PM
  Subject: Re: [OT] Crunch time!
 
  El Viernes 03 Noviembre 2006 20:34, Virgil Bierschwale escribió:
   Do you honestly believe that because you throw in the towel, that the
   muslim extremists will stop what they are doing ?
 
  Of course not! You should keep invading their countries and killing their
  children. Then, they will surely be so gratefull they'll certainly stop.
 
   Virgil Bierschwale
   Armstrong and Skipper Real Estate
   (830) 329-6774 Cell
   (830) 864-4726 Home
   (830) 864-4799 Fax
   http://www.bierschwalesolutions.com
   http://www.bierschwale.com
   http://www.virgilslist.com
   - Original Message -
   From: Ed Leafe [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   To: ProFox Mailing List profox@leafe.com
   Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 5:01 PM
   Subject: [OT] Crunch time!
  
As the critical mid-term elections approach, it's time for everyone
concerned with reversing this march toward endless war and imperial
executive power to get involved. There are two get-out-the-vote
drives
being coordinated by MoveOn.org as we head into this last  weekend.
   
The first is an effort to set up parties for people to get together
and make these important calls in a group setting. It's called 'Rock
the House (and Senate) Phone Party', and you can look for a party
near
you at:
   
http://pol.moveon.org/event/events/index.html?action_id=62
   
If there isn't a party near you at a convenient time, you can also
contribute by making these calls yourself, using their 'Call For
Change'. The URL is:
   
http://pol.moveon.org/phone/volunteer/c4c.html
   
There are several close races in my area, and in between upgrading
the
server this weekend, I'll be making as many calls as possible. If 
you can contribute in your area, that would go a long way to finally
ending the lunacy of the last 6 years.
   
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Re: [OT] Crunch time!

2006-11-04 Thread Virgil Bierschwale
Then you should understand why we are in iraq removing a dictatorship that 
did the same thing.


I will admit that in hindsight, the evidence that the cia and other 
organizations supplied was flawed and I'm a firm believer that we should 
disband the cia and fire all of them and quit meddling in other countries 
affairs, but at the same time, I also believe that countries that were / are 
led by dictators such as iraq, syria, iran or n. korea WILL supply weapons 
of mass destruction to terrorists just as soon as they have them and they 
have buyers with lots of cash, so even though I don't like war, I do support 
this one against the muslim extremists.


As for the military, served my time, luckily in peace time, but I maintain a 
map on my web site for ex navy friends and so I get a lot of email that is 
supposedly from over there and the story I hear is lots difference then what 
the news papers state.


There again, eradicate the CIA
Put the newspapers out of business if they create news, which I believe they 
do.

Put the attorneys in jail if they defend somebody that they know is guilty.
Vote all the politicians out.

Yep, I agree to all of the above 4 lines, but I also realize it won't happen 
as long as we require perfectionism in our politicians because I realize 
that none of us are perfect.


Virgil Bierschwale
Armstrong and Skipper Real Estate
(830) 329-6774 Cell
(830) 864-4726 Home
(830) 864-4799 Fax
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- Original Message - 
From: Ricardo Aráoz [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: profox@leafe.com
Sent: Saturday, November 04, 2006 5:02 AM
Subject: Re: [OT] Crunch time!


El Sábado 04 Noviembre 2006 00:43, Virgil Bierschwale escribió:

And you base your understanding of what is happening in iraq from the
actual people serving over there or perhaps what you hear from the media ?


Well you see. He uses metaphors, so I gues I can feel empathy. I have
obviously never served there (have you?), and If I had heard from it from
people there then it would be hearsay.
But I endured 7 years of military dictatorship, 60,000 missing people, my
wife's grandmom kidnapped (by the state forces), raped, tortured
(electricity, submarine, tweezers, etc). And then some. The funny thing is
this coup d'etat (as many others all through South America) was backed,
organized and financed by USA. So here's a tough question for you. Who do 
you

think I might percieve as the thief/bully of the metaphors that have been
going arround?
BTW, never have been a communist, I don't like them.



Virgil Bierschwale
Armstrong and Skipper Real Estate
(830) 329-6774 Cell
(830) 864-4726 Home
(830) 864-4799 Fax
http://www.bierschwalesolutions.com
http://www.bierschwale.com
http://www.virgilslist.com
- Original Message -
From: Ricardo Aráoz [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: profox@leafe.com
Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 8:59 PM
Subject: Re: [OT] Crunch time!

El Viernes 03 Noviembre 2006 22:04, Virgil Bierschwale escribió:
 Interesting concept..
 A thief breaks into your house and steals your possessions and kills 
 your

 family.

Oh, I see! A metaphor! Lets see You must be referring to this bush
fellow
going to the Iraqi's house, stealing their oil and killing their people by
the thousands.
But no, that's not possible. He was actually 'defending' himself. It's 
very

easy to see how Iraq was such a great threat to a small country like the
USA,
and if you consider they are so close to each other, the danger was clear
and
imminent.
Besides, one must judge him by his results, all's well that ends well. He
invaded and now the world is a safer place, terrorism has decreased, the
Iraqi's are safer and prospering, and the USA has been able to reduce it's
military budget due to the fact that the world has become a peacefull 
place

to live in..

 A year later he realizes you did nothing to defend yourself, so he comes
 back

 That doesnt sound right to me, but that is what I'm hearing.

 I don't believe in attacking anybody, nor do I feel that we should 
 attack

 anybody.
 But I do believe in defense and the right to defend your family and yes,
 I would blow anybody away that threatened them.

 Virgil Bierschwale
 Armstrong and Skipper Real Estate
 (830) 329-6774 Cell
 (830) 864-4726 Home
 (830) 864-4799 Fax
 http://www.bierschwalesolutions.com
 http://www.bierschwale.com
 http://www.virgilslist.com
 - Original Message -
 From: Ricardo Aráoz [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: profox@leafe.com
 Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 6:57 PM
 Subject: Re: [OT] Crunch time!

 El Viernes 03 Noviembre 2006 20:34, Virgil Bierschwale escribió:
  Do you honestly believe that because you throw in the towel, that the
  muslim extremists will stop what they are doing ?

 Of course not! You should keep invading their countries and killing 
 their

 children. Then, they will surely be so gratefull they'll certainly stop.

  Virgil Bierschwale
  Armstrong and Skipper Real Estate

RE: [OT] Crunch time!

2006-11-04 Thread Stephen the Cook
Virgil Bierschwale  wrote:
 Then you should understand why we are in iraq removing a dictatorship
 that did the same thing. 

I really don't believe that this is the reason we did what we did.  Sorry.  

In the situation of a strong person who did keep the fear/peace in a place,
we goofed in removing him.  The pressure that still gushes from that missing
plug has been steady for the past 4 years.  

It reminds me of lava flowing into the ocean in Hawaii.  You can't stop it.
And each flow leaves more signs of it's presence.  

Do you think that creating three republics in place of the one super state
is a good idea?  To right the wrong from the end of World War I.



Stephen Russell
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Memphis TN 38115
901.246-0159

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missiles and misguided men. Dr. Martin Luther King Jr.

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Re: [OT] Crunch time!

2006-11-04 Thread Ed Leafe

On Nov 4, 2006, at 8:07 AM, Stephen the Cook wrote:

Do you think that creating three republics in place of the one  
super state

is a good idea?  To right the wrong from the end of World War I.


Been reading T.E. Lawrence lately?

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RE: [OT] Kanye West, super dummy

2006-11-04 Thread Stephen the Cook
Michael Madigan  wrote:
 http://apnews.myway.com/article/20061103/D8L5JBHO0.html


I spent a million dollars on the video, I should have one!  Maybe he need to
learn about content instead of just cost.

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RE: [OT] Election Fraud already in Tennessee

2006-11-04 Thread Michael Madigan
Harold, call me  LMAO

--- john harvey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Where you been? I'm all over it. Visit my blog at
 http://votinginmemphis.blogspot.com or 
 http://www.instapundit.com/  or
 http://www.volunteervoters.com/   
 
 I've found 12 people who appear to have voted twice
 in early voting and 360
 more who hadn't voted over the past 10 years, but
 all of the sudden, get the
 urge to vote.
 
 Oh well, it won't help JR. Corker will win by 10
 points.
 
 John
 
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 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
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 Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 6:14 PM
 To: 'ProFox Email List'
 Subject: RE: [OT] Election Fraud already in
 Tennessee
 
 Michael Madigan  wrote:
  Could someone tell me why we need early voting? 
 It just gives the
  savages time to vote multiple times at multiple
 locations. 
  
  The Democrats are going to do everything to steal
 this election.
  
  Criminals.
 
 Still waiting on John to pipe in here
 
  
 
 
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 DBA / .Net Developer
 
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 901.246-0159
 
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Re: [OT] 1 in 5 children can't find the UK on a map.

2006-11-04 Thread Michael Madigan
Evita, Evita

--- Ricardo Aráoz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 El Viernes 03 Noviembre 2006 15:55, Michael Madigan
 escribió:
  Pipe down Evita.
 
 
 C'mon Mike! A little more creativity, you can't
 expect to hold my attention 
 with such lame attempts. And it's your own language,
 you should be more 
 fluent. Can't you think anything better?
 
  --- Ricardo Aráoz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   El Jueves 02 Noviembre 2006 02:34, Michael
 Madigan
  
   escribió:
Except all the Argentinian women are HIV +.
  
   Hahaha! Poor Mike, he's MadAgain. But I admit
 it's
   my fault. I shouldn't pick
   on him, even if he's such an easy target.
  
--- Pete Theisen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
 On Wednesday 01 November 2006 20:51, Ricardo
  
   Aráoz
  
 wrote:

 Hi Ricardo!

 I have a neighbor who spends all the time he
 can
  
   in
  
 Argentina. He likes the
 way women in Argentina treat him, not
 feminists
  
   like
  
 we mostly have here.
 Feminists are disgusting, might as well be
 going
  
   out
  
 with a faggot.

  El Miércoles 01 Noviembre 2006 23:06, Pete
  
   Theisen
  
 escribió:
   On Wednesday 01 November 2006 18:11,
 Ricardo

 Aráoz wrote:
   Hi Ricardo!
  
   I work for really poor wages. How many
 pesos
  
   for
  
 a  loaf of bread? What

   kind of pesos, Mexican, Brazilian?
 
  Hi,
  well it's been ages since I bought some
  
   bread.
  
 The pesos are Argentine
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Re: [OT] Crunch time!

2006-11-04 Thread Ed Leafe

On Nov 3, 2006, at 8:54 PM, Virgil Bierschwale wrote:

very simple, you want to replace leaders that are doing a damn good  
job with leaders such as kerry who will give in to all kinds of  
agreements the world over just so the extremists will stay overseas.


	Again, you insist on making up a silly, easily refuted position that  
I supposedly hold in order to make your arguments easier. And in that  
same sentence you do the same thing to John Kerry.


	Just to illustrate what it's like to try to have a discussion with  
you, here's the equivalent, were I inclined to do the same to you:


Very simple: you want retain the leaders who have disregarded  
military advice for their own political gains, resulting in the  
unnecessary deaths of nearly 3,000 American troops, rather than  
replace them such as Kerry, who will take his military experience to  
form a more intelligent, effective approach to a complex problem.


	Does that accurately reflect what you've been saying? No, of course  
not. But that's how your writing looks to everyone else.


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RE: [OT] Crunch time!

2006-11-04 Thread Stephen the Cook
Ed Leafe  wrote:
 On Nov 4, 2006, at 8:07 AM, Stephen the Cook wrote:
 
 Do you think that creating three republics in place of the one super
 state is a good idea?  To right the wrong from the end of World War
 I. 
 
   Been reading T.E. Lawrence lately?

I got Seven Pillars almost 3 years ago.  Got one for my Nephew who is a
Marine Capt before his first tour. A friend had one so I borrowed it.  

How does the saying go, the more things change the more they stay the same?

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Re: [NF] IE7 Breaks Older QuickBooks

2006-11-04 Thread Ted Roche

On 11/3/06, Rick Schummer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Not entirely true Ted. It appears the latest version has no problems, but n-1 
has a patch,
and it sounds like n-2 is in process of getting a patch. It is the n-3 people 
(me for one)
who have to bite the bullet and upgrade.



Cool, that wasn't what I picked up from the OP site. I am also an n-3
user (QBP 2003, iirc). If their update still depends on IE, I think
this is a great chance to shop for alternatives. I'll ask my
accountant if she has alternative recommendations...

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Re: [OT] Fat Lesbian comment gets radio host fired

2006-11-04 Thread Michael Oke, II
Why is that that liberals seem to want to defend freedom of speech 
unless it's directed towards them?


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Which part was untrue?  She's fat and she's a lesbo.


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Re: [OT] Crunch time!

2006-11-04 Thread Ed Leafe

On Nov 4, 2006, at 8:36 AM, Stephen the Cook wrote:

I got Seven Pillars almost 3 years ago.  Got one for my Nephew who  
is a

Marine Capt before his first tour. A friend had one so I borrowed it.

How does the saying go, the more things change the more they stay  
the same?


	In this case, it is probably more apt to note that those who do not  
learn from history are doomed to repeat it.


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Re: [OT] Crunch time!

2006-11-04 Thread Virgil Bierschwale

Kerry's military experience.
Surely by now you know what a yes man is..
In case you don't, he is an ass kissing arrogant fool and he has proven such 
many times these last few years, and this man were he elected and he had to 
choose between helping you new yorkers out or helping his billionaire 
friends out, well you will come out on the short end of the stick.


Give me a break Ed.
It has been proven time and again that he has had silver spooned help all 
the way along his career which has kept him out of being in any danger..


Now lets talk about the military leaders.
Give me some specifics and I'll dig up the rest of the story as paul harvey 
says.


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On Nov 3, 2006, at 8:54 PM, Virgil Bierschwale wrote:

very simple, you want to replace leaders that are doing a damn good  job 
with leaders such as kerry who will give in to all kinds of  agreements 
the world over just so the extremists will stay overseas.


Again, you insist on making up a silly, easily refuted position that  I 
supposedly hold in order to make your arguments easier. And in that  same 
sentence you do the same thing to John Kerry.


Just to illustrate what it's like to try to have a discussion with  you, 
here's the equivalent, were I inclined to do the same to you:


Very simple: you want retain the leaders who have disregarded  military 
advice for their own political gains, resulting in the  unnecessary deaths 
of nearly 3,000 American troops, rather than  replace them such as Kerry, 
who will take his military experience to  form a more intelligent, 
effective approach to a complex problem.


Does that accurately reflect what you've been saying? No, of course  not. 
But that's how your writing looks to everyone else.


-- Ed Leafe
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[OT] Patriots post bomb plans, don't they?

2006-11-04 Thread Ed Leafe
http://www.upi.com/SecurityTerrorism/view.php? 
StoryID=20061103-030156-6711r


( -or- http://tinyurl.com/y67for )

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The New York Times reported Friday that officials from the  
International Atomic Energy Agency objected to U.S. government  
officials putting up about a dozen Iraqi documents, containing  
charts, diagrams, equations and lengthy narratives about bomb  
building from Iraq's pre-1991 nuclear program captured in the  
invasion of Iraq.


The Web site was established in March to make public Iraqi documents  
seized following the toppling of the Saddam Hussein regime. According  
to the Times, its birth was the result of Republican congressional  
pressure to help make the case that Iran had an active program to  
develop weapons of mass destruction -- a key rationale for the 2003  
invasion, since debunked by a massive and fruitless search.


This is a classic, textbook example of the dangers of politicizing  
national intelligence issues, said Joe Cirincione senior vice  
president for national security and international policy at the left- 
leaning Center for American Progress in Washington.


In their zeal to promote the idea Saddam Hussein in fact did have  
(WMD), congressional proponents of the war ... have put up documents  
on the internet that could give terrorists and states hostile to the  
United States the very instructions they need to build nuclear,  
chemical or biological weapons, he said.


If Democrats had done that there would be mobs carrying torches in  
the streets tonight. The Democrats would be accused of treason and  
there would be calls for resignation, Cirincione told reporters Friday.


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Re: [NF] IE7 Breaks Older QuickBooks

2006-11-04 Thread Kenneth Kixmoeller/fh


On Nov 4, 2006, at 7:42 AM, Ted Roche wrote:


If their update still depends on IE, I think
this is a great chance to shop for alternatives.


Or maybe put it on an older computer that you don't use for surfing,  
and leave the older IE on it?



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Re: [OT] Fat Lesbian comment gets radio host fired

2006-11-04 Thread Ed Leafe

On Nov 4, 2006, at 9:31 AM, Michael Oke, II wrote:

Why is that that liberals seem to want to defend freedom of speech  
unless it's directed towards them?


Why is it that conservatives like to make untrue generalizations?

	The broadcasting company fired him without any intervention from any  
person or group. Doesn't matter what your political persuasion may  
be; saying things that might alienate sponsors will get you fired  
from a broadcast job.


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