Re: Programmatically transfer files to/from Apple iPods

[Malcolm Greene]

Justin,

> You might check the interface API for iTunes.
> Apple has the documentation on their developer site.
> You can start with loTunes = createobject("itunes.application")

Perfect! That's exactly the info I needed to dig deeper.

Thanks!

Malcolm


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RE: [NF] Windows Vista

[Tristan Leask]

Yep, got RC2 working in a Virtual PC.  Installed with no problems.

Tristan

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Anybody install this yet ?

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Re: Copying databases.

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> Did you want to copy just structures or structures AND data?

The source data would have some amount of actual data in it, yes.
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Re: Copying databases.

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On Tue, 7 Nov 2006 18:20:47 +, "Andy Davies"
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> gendb[x] ??


Sorry I didn't make clear that the source data has some populated tables
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Re: [NF] Windows Vista

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Nope, I would only install a beta OS in a virtual machine to be honest.
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Re: [NF] Windows Vista

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On Tue, 7 Nov 2006 22:48:04 -0500, "Ed Leafe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> On Nov 7, 2006, at 10:40 PM, Virgil Bierschwale wrote:

>   You should really check out Ubuntu.

I think with Ubuntu and EasyUbuntu all this kind of thing is finally
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Re: Copying databases.

[Brian Abbott]

COPY FILE

Or am I missing something?


Alan Bourke wrote:
> On Tue, 7 Nov 2006 18:20:47 +, "Andy Davies"
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>> gendb[x] ??
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> Sorry I didn't make clear that the source data has some populated tables
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Re: [NF] Anti-piracy email from the BSA

[Andy Davies]

Chet said "I didn't know they were still making motorcycles..."

in today's climate they've probably gone back to making small arms .

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RE: VFP web services

[Allen]

So I may as well stay with dll and asp then. At least I know how to get
those working.
Allen 

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Give up Allen - not only do web services fail but xmlhttp (which *does*
work) is apparently the latest ie7 exploit so expect to see ms's 'fix' kill
that as well!

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Re: Programmatically transfer files to/from Apple iPods

[Paul Hill]

On 11/8/06, Malcolm Greene <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Justin,
>
> > You might check the interface API for iTunes.
> > Apple has the documentation on their developer site.
> > You can start with loTunes = createobject("itunes.application")
>
> Perfect! That's exactly the info I needed to dig deeper.

There's some documentation and examples somewhere on Apples site.

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Re: [NF] Windows Vista

[Jean Laeremans]

On 11/8/06, Paul Hill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 11/8/06, Ted Roche <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Unless your clients are demanding Vista. Are they, Virgil?
>
> The problem is that the likes of Dell will be shipping in Vista come
> next year.
>
> So if you develop a Windows app you need to test it works OK...
> Depends on your market of course, I doubt big businesses will be
> rolling out Vista for a while.
>

Our dep. must have around 50,000 PCs. All those PCs run W2K . Tests
are going on with OO. I expect in a few years Linux will be on our
desktops (it is already on our IBM servers) I think the heydays of
windows are over

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Re: [NF] Anti-piracy email from the BSA

[Andy Davies]

jml said:  ...
http://www.bsaoc.demon.co.uk/

thanks for the link Jean - I've got a couple of ex-military C15's lying
doing nothing in the attic - maybe this will get me started on that
restoration project (another one for 'when I'm retired' )

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RE: [NF] Anti-piracy email from the BSA

[Dave Crozier]

Jeez Andy,
What are you doing with two McDonald Douglas C15 Hornet Fighters in your
attic. No wonder the neighbours are annoyed...but I bet they won't complain
just in case you retaliate. 

You are obvoiusly not a man to annoy! 

By the way I have a '68 250cc Starfire as well as a B44 441cc Victor single
(Starfire with hormones) you can have the Starfire for spares if you want
it.

Dave Crozier
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jml said:  ...
http://www.bsaoc.demon.co.uk/

thanks for the link Jean - I've got a couple of ex-military C15's lying
doing nothing in the attic - maybe this will get me started on that
restoration project (another one for 'when I'm retired' )

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RE: VFP web services

[Andy Davies]

>So I may as well stay with dll and asp then. At least I know how to get
>those working.
>Allen

on different computers, on different networks, through a couple of
corporate firewalls and a mess of nat'ing routers?

'cos imho that's what soap/ web services *set out* to do.

(meanwhile asp or xmlhttp work for me - for now!  Ajax uses both (or
equiv.) so I wonder if that will survive the next bug fix.)

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Re: [NF] Anti-piracy email from the BSA

[Jean Laeremans]

On 11/8/06, Andy Davies <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> jml said:  ...
> http://www.bsaoc.demon.co.uk/
>
> thanks for the link Jean - I've got a couple of ex-military C15's lying
> doing nothing in the attic - maybe this will get me started on that
> restoration project (another one for 'when I'm retired' )
>
> Andrew Davies MBCS CITP
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Do yourself a favo(u)r...buy a honda 
On a more serious note. As you are in the UK it wouldn't be all that
difficult to find the missing parts.

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Replicate folder tree

[Paul Newton]

Hi all

I want to replicate the folder structure on one drive to another drive 
but without the contents of the folders.  IOW I want the target drive to 
have the same directory structure as the parent drive (or at least part 
of it, starting from a given folder).  I had hoped that I might be able 
to use WinZip or WinRAR to do this but haven't been able to work out how 
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RE: [NF] What are people doing with cable interfaces?

[Jim Felton]

If you look around the 10/100 NICs can be had for about $10.00 each, the
100/1000 for about $50.00, an old Pentium(anything w 32mb ram) $50.oo bucks,
the time it takes to make it work PRICELESS. It's just an option, if you
don't like don't use it.

Jim

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On Tuesday 07 November 2006 09:41, Whil Hentzen (Pro*) wrote:


Hi Whil!

An old PC will do - even a 486, and the Linux ones can run off of a floppy.
>
> But that means I need another PC. And four more cards. Suddenly we're
> talking a few hundred bucks. :)

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RE: [NF] What are people doing with cable interfaces?

[Jim Felton]

Sorry Pete, this was pointed at Whil
Jim

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Hi Whil!

An old PC will do - even a 486, and the Linux ones can run off of a floppy.
>
> But that means I need another PC. And four more cards. Suddenly we're
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Re: Copying databases.

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On 11/8/06, Alan Bourke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> Sorry I didn't make clear that the source data has some populated tables
> that need to be replicated ...
>

Creating the entire database, tables and the data contents in SQL has
the advantage of being easy to modify (MODI COMM), easy to track
changes (source control, diff), easy to debug. You can do it all with
data manipulation code in VFP, but what are the advantages of doing
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de question

[Andy Davies]

Hi,
I have added a de ('deMy') to a form, for now at least I am not using ca's
but in the load of the form I can do e.g.

local nHndl
nHndl = thisform.deMy.DataSource
cSQL = [select * from foo]
nOK = SQLEXEC(nHndl, cSQL, 'curFoo')

Q1. it seems I (the_programmer) have to remember that the de is called
'deMy' - the name/ object reference isn't available anywhere?
Q2. I would rather put that logic in a busObj - but how should the busObj
get the connection handle? -
at present I use:
thisform.NewObject('oData', 'myData','myMain.prg')

'myData' in myMain.prg can be expected to know about _screen.activeform but
not (surely) about deMy, I suppose  I could pass parameters to
myData.init()  but  Help! seems to have errors/ mismatch with Intellisense:
Help!
> Object.NEWOBJECT(cObjectName, cClassName [, cModule [, cInApplication [,
eParameter1, eParameter2, ...]]])
> cInApplication
> Specifies the Visual FoxPro application (.exe or .app) containing the
.vcx visual class library you specify with cClassLibName. You must include
an extension for the application. CInApplication is ignored if cModule is
omitted...

I assumeHelp! means cModule not cClassLibName?

Intellisense:
> Object.NEWOBJECT(cName, cClass, [,cModule],
[,cInApplication],[cOLEClass], [, aInit1...])

all (oopy) suggestions welcome (including "use ca's" I guess ).


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Re: [NF] Anti-piracy email from the BSA

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On 11/8/06, Hal Kaplan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

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Pot & kettle ?

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RE: [OT] Mike's Election Prediction

[Adam Buckland]

So, how are your election predictions panning out?

I see one H Clinton is now the odds on favourite for 2008.

::a



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Senate

Republicans   50 seats
Democrats 48 Seats
Independents   2 Seats


House

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Re: [NF] Anti-piracy email from the BSA

[Peter Cushing]

Chet Gardiner wrote:
> Never had a Beezer but here are some of the ones I've owned:
>
> This one's close to my 1964 T100:
> http://www.vintagebike.co.uk/Bike%20Directories/Triumph%20Bikes/pages/Triumph-Tiger-100SS-64.htm
>
> And my 1969 Bonny:
> http://www.vintagebike.co.uk/Bike%20Directories/Triumph%20Bikes/pages/Triumph%20Bonneville%205.htm
>
> Sort of close to my '66 Norton Scrambler:
> http://www.vintagebike.co.uk/Bike%20Directories/Norton%20Bikes/pages/Norton%20650SS.htm
>
> And my '75 Norton Commando MkIII (mine was black):
> http://www.vintagebike.co.uk/Bike%20Directories/Norton%20Bikes/pages/Norton-Commando-Mk3-75.htm
>(Ahhh, John Lucas, the 'Prince of Darkness')
>
> And my current bike - The '84 V65 Magna (mine's maroon):
> http://www.angelfire.com/ia/z/V65magna.htm
>   
BSA = Bits Slung Anwhere
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Strange behaviour in the VFP IDE

[Dominic Burford]

Hi

When I am editing a class in the VFP IDE and click on the class property
sheet drop down to select an individual object, the drop down drops
upwards, not downwards.  It disappears upwards beyond my screen .  Also,
when I am in a class method editing window and select the method drop
down to select another method to edit, I get the same thing - the drop
down drops upwards and most of the methods disappear off the screen and
cannot be selected.  This has been happening for a few weeks.  

What is causing it, and how do I change it back to the default
behaviour.

Dominic Burford

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One way is to make it so simple there are obviously no deficiencies, and
the other way is to make it so complicated that there are no obvious
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Re: Strange behaviour in the VFP IDE

[Ted Roche]

On 11/8/06, Dominic Burford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> When I am editing a class in the VFP IDE and click on the class property
> sheet drop down to select an individual object, the drop down drops
> upwards, not downwards.  It disappears upwards beyond my screen .
>

Has it always done this, or is this new behavior? Er, behaviour?

Is this a new machine or one that hasn't exhibited this behaviour before?

This is most likely a video driver problem. Have you changed anything recently?

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Re: Replicate folder tree

[Paul Hill]

On 11/8/06, Paul Newton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi all
>
> I want to replicate the folder structure on one drive to another drive
> but without the contents of the folders.  IOW I want the target drive to
> have the same directory structure as the parent drive (or at least part
> of it, starting from a given folder).  I had hoped that I might be able
> to use WinZip or WinRAR to do this but haven't been able to work out how
> to do it.  Any suggestions ?

I think xcopy can do this from the command line:

 /T   Creates directory structure, but does not copy files. Does not
  include empty directories or subdirectories. /T /E includes
  empty directories and subdirectories.

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Re: Replicate folder tree

[Paul Newton]

Thanks Paul - works great

Paul Hill wrote:
> On 11/8/06, Paul Newton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>   
>> Hi all
>>
>> I want to replicate the folder structure on one drive to another drive
>> but without the contents of the folders.  IOW I want the target drive to
>> have the same directory structure as the parent drive (or at least part
>> of it, starting from a given folder).  I had hoped that I might be able
>> to use WinZip or WinRAR to do this but haven't been able to work out how
>> to do it.  Any suggestions ?
>> 
>
> I think xcopy can do this from the command line:
>
>  /T   Creates directory structure, but does not copy files. Does not
>   include empty directories or subdirectories. /T /E includes
>   empty directories and subdirectories.
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VFP/MySQL issue for private variables in SQL statement on Windows vs Linux backends

[MB Software Solutions]

App written in VFP9SP1.
My O/S:  WinXP Pro
MySQL database local version is 4.0.13-nt.
MySQL web database version is 4.1.15-Debian_1-log.
MyODBC driver version is MySQL ODBC 3.51.
These SQL statements are stored in a local DBF lookup table and 
retrieved for SPT execution on the fly.
Other:  I'm wearing green today and I like pumpkin pie.  

Problem:
I have a SPT that is something like this using private variables for the 
'?' variables below:

select cname, iage, ddate  from MySQLTable where iAge = ?piAge and dDate 
between ?pdBegDate and ?pdEndDate

This query works great (read:  "returns data") on my local MySQL 
database (on my Windows laptop); however, the same query running on my 
ISP's Debian Linux box does not return any data (and yes, I've verified 
the data is there). 



Suggestions (if sufficient information posted above)?  My "Plan B" is to 
have the ?variables substituted/manipulated somehow prior to the SQLEXEC 
so that the actual values get embedded literally in the SPT.

Thanks,
--Michael

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Containers ActiveX HELP PLEASE

[aj]

I have a container that is holding multiple ActiveX objects.  The 
problem is that when I load these objects into the container they draw 
themselves outside of the container when it should be getting clipped.  
Has anyone been through this before.


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Re: Replicate folder tree

[Malcolm Greene]

Paul,

>From the command line type:

XCOPY /? | MORE

I think the option you're looking for is:

XCOPY source destination /T /E

Malcolm


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RE: VFP web services

[Tracy Pearson]

SOAP is built on the XMLHTTP object.
Returns XML with the added "Envelope" layer.

If the webservice fails, the xmlhttp is also going to fail.

I will agree the SOAP layer adds complexity to the process.

Tracy


> -Original Message-
> From: Andy Davies
> Sent: Tuesday, November 07, 2006 1:19 PM
>
> Give up Allen - not only do web services fail but xmlhttp
> (which *does*
> work) is apparently the latest ie7 exploit so expect to see
> ms's 'fix' kill that as well!
>
> Andrew Davies  MBCS CITP
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[OT] The Morning After

[Hal Kaplan]

The silence is deafening.

And most welcome.

HALinNY


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Re: Containers ActiveX HELP PLEASE

[Malcolm Greene]

AJ,

> I have a container that is holding multiple ActiveX objects. The problem is 
> that when I load these objects into the container they draw themselves 
> outside of the container when it should be getting clipped.

I've seen this before. I think the only solution is to have your
container's resize event resize/reposition the enclosed ActiveX so that
they're all visible WITHIN the visible borders of the parent container.

BTW: Same principle applies to ActiveX on pageframe pages.

Malcolm


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Re: Containers ActiveX HELP PLEASE

[MB Software Solutions]

aj wrote:
> I have a container that is holding multiple ActiveX objects.  The 
> problem is that when I load these objects into the container they draw 
> themselves outside of the container when it should be getting clipped.  
> Has anyone been through this before.
>   

No, sorry...I try to avoid ActiveX if I can.

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Re: VFP/MySQL issue for private variables in SQL statement on Windows vs Linux backends

[Kevin Cully]

I'd go with Plan B.  I've never liked surprises, and I can debug easier 
if I have the SPT all put together for me before I try to execute it.  I 
usually do a TEXTMERGE to get the values into the SPT.

Kevin Cully
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Sponsor of Fox Forward 2006!
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MB Software Solutions wrote:
> App written in VFP9SP1.
> My O/S:  WinXP Pro
> MySQL database local version is 4.0.13-nt.
> MySQL web database version is 4.1.15-Debian_1-log.
> MyODBC driver version is MySQL ODBC 3.51.
> These SQL statements are stored in a local DBF lookup table and 
> retrieved for SPT execution on the fly.
> Other:  I'm wearing green today and I like pumpkin pie.  
> 
> Problem:
> I have a SPT that is something like this using private variables for the 
> '?' variables below:
> 
> select cname, iage, ddate  from MySQLTable where iAge = ?piAge and dDate 
> between ?pdBegDate and ?pdEndDate
> 
> This query works great (read:  "returns data") on my local MySQL 
> database (on my Windows laptop); however, the same query running on my 
> ISP's Debian Linux box does not return any data (and yes, I've verified 
> the data is there). 
> 
> 
> 
> Suggestions (if sufficient information posted above)?  My "Plan B" is to 
> have the ?variables substituted/manipulated somehow prior to the SQLEXEC 
> so that the actual values get embedded literally in the SPT.
> 
> Thanks,
> --Michael
> 



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Re: VFP web services

[MB Software Solutions]

Tracy Pearson wrote:
> SOAP is built on the XMLHTTP object.
> Returns XML with the added "Envelope" layer.
>
> If the webservice fails, the xmlhttp is also going to fail.
>
> I will agree the SOAP layer adds complexity to the process.
>   

Sometimes I swear that some geeks simply add complexity just to make it 
that--more complex--as to justify a means to their existence I suppose 
or a snooty "ha! it's the secret club and only we know the secret 
handshake!  bow down before us, unknowing nerd!"

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RE: [OT] The Morning After

[Kevin Ragsdale]

Hal Kaplan wrote:

> The silence is deafening.
> 
> And most welcome.

Agreed. 

I'm glad to see the political ads/hatchet jobs go away for awhile. Alas,
they will return far too soon...

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Re: Containers ActiveX HELP PLEASE

[aj]

I cant have this.  I need the objects to go outside the visible borders 
so that i can scroll them.  Im showing thumbnails inside of a container 
object.
> I've seen this before. I think the only solution is to have your
> container's resize event resize/reposition the enclosed ActiveX so that
> they're all visible WITHIN the visible borders of the parent container.
>
> BTW: Same principle applies to ActiveX on pageframe pages.
>
> Malcolm
>
>
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Re: VFP/MySQL issue for private variables in SQL statement on Windows vs Linux backends

[Whil Hentzen (Pro*)]

MB Software Solutions wrote:
> App written in VFP9SP1.
> My O/S:  WinXP Pro

Well, there you go again. I heard that the folks who make WinXP have 
been seen recently consorting with Communists.

> 
> select cname, iage, ddate  from MySQLTable where iAge = ?piAge and dDate 
> between ?pdBegDate and ?pdEndDate
> 
> This query works great (read:  "returns data") on my local MySQL 
> database (on my Windows laptop); however, the same query running on my 
> ISP's Debian Linux box does not return any data (and yes, I've verified 
> the data is there). 

So it returns an empty cursor, right? As opposed to just returning 
without doing anything? (Meaning, are you sure the SQLEXEC is returning 
a '1'?)

What about knocking the SELECT down a bit - do it without a WHERE 
clause, or (if that would return too many rows) a hard-coded iAge = 37. 
Then add iAge = ?piAge. Then add one of the two date ends (dDate > 
?pdBegDate. And so on...

Green? I don't think that works with your complexion. You need to see a 
professional. IMHO, of course.

Whil


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Re: VFP/MySQL issue for private variables in SQL statement on Windows vs Linux backends

[MB Software Solutions]

Whil Hentzen (Pro*) wrote:
>
> Well, there you go again. I heard that the folks who make WinXP have 
> been seen recently consorting with Communists.
>   
Now hey, don't talk about Chet that waySenator McCarthy's legacy 
shouldn't continue, Whil!  

>   
>> select cname, iage, ddate  from MySQLTable where iAge = ?piAge and dDate 
>> between ?pdBegDate and ?pdEndDate
>>
>> This query works great (read:  "returns data") on my local MySQL 
>> database (on my Windows laptop); however, the same query running on my 
>> ISP's Debian Linux box does not return any data (and yes, I've verified 
>> the data is there). 
>> 
>
> So it returns an empty cursor, right? As opposed to just returning 
> without doing anything? (Meaning, are you sure the SQLEXEC is returning 
> a '1'?)
>   

Correct.

> What about knocking the SELECT down a bit - do it without a WHERE 
> clause, or (if that would return too many rows) a hard-coded iAge = 37. 
> Then add iAge = ?piAge. Then add one of the two date ends (dDate > 
> ?pdBegDate. And so on...
>   
Kevin's TEXTMERGE idea seems to have fit the bill perfectly, so no need 
for that...but thanks anyway!

> Green? I don't think that works with your complexion. You need to see a 
> professional. IMHO, of course.
>   

Oh there's no doubt about that...hopefully the Doc will give me the 
script when I see him tomorrow!   ;-)  Can't wait for this year to be 
overit's not been memorable for me!

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Re: VFP/MySQL issue for private variables in SQL statement on Windows vs Linux backends

[MB Software Solutions]

Kevin Cully wrote:
> I'd go with Plan B.  I've never liked surprises, and I can debug easier 
> if I have the SPT all put together for me before I try to execute it.  I 
> usually do a TEXTMERGE to get the values into the SPT.
>   
I've used TEXT/ENDTEXT in the past, but that was on SPT built right 
there in the data object PRG.  In this scenario, I've tried something a 
bit different, having the SPT come in at runtime from a local DBF.  That 
way, I can update the "view definitions" (but they're not actually VFP 
views, of course--just SELECT statements) without having to recompile 
the app.

Using the TEXTMERGE function worked beautifullythanks, Kevin!

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[NF] FireFox and Explorer Display Differently

[Charles Hart Enzer, M.D.]

Why do FireFox and Explorer display this page differently?

 http://homepages.uc.edu/~enzerch/reviews/past_new.html

Thank you.


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RE: [NF] FireFox and Explorer Display Differently

[Dave Crozier]

Charles,
The only two differences I can see are:

1. The font in Firefox is Bold and in IE is standard
2. The underline in Firefox underlines past the end of "Discussants" but
doesn’t in IE.

Using IE V7 and Firefox V2

Are these the differences you mean?

Dave Crozier
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Why do FireFox and Explorer display this page differently?

 http://homepages.uc.edu/~enzerch/reviews/past_new.html

Thank you.


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RE: [OT] Mike's Election Prediction

[Michael Madigan]

America decided to strap on a suicide bomb belt and
blow themselves up.

Who's happier this morning?  Bin Laden, Kim Jung Il,
or Nancy Pelosi?



--- Adam Buckland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> So, how are your election predictions panning out?
> 
> I see one H Clinton is now the odds on favourite for
> 2008.
> 
> ::a
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> Behalf Of Michael Madigan
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> Subject: [OT] Mike's Election Prediction
> 
> Senate
> 
> Republicans   50 seats
> Democrats 48 Seats
> Independents   2 Seats
> 
> 
> House
> 
> Republicans  218 Seats
> Democrats217 Seats
>  
> 
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Re: [NF] FireFox and Explorer Display Differently

[Paul Hill]

On 11/8/06, Charles Hart Enzer, M.D. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Why do FireFox and Explorer display this page differently?
>
>  http://homepages.uc.edu/~enzerch/reviews/past_new.html
>
> Thank you.

They look very similar to me.  Running Firefox 2 and IE 7.

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RE: VFP web services

[Hal Kaplan]

=> Tracy Pearson wrote:
=> > SOAP is built on the XMLHTTP object.
=> > Returns XML with the added "Envelope" layer.
=> >
=> > If the webservice fails, the xmlhttp is also going to fail.
=> >
=> > I will agree the SOAP layer adds complexity to the process.
=> >   
=> 
=> Sometimes I swear that some geeks simply add complexity just 
=> to make it that--more complex--as to justify a means to 
=> their existence I suppose or a snooty "ha! it's the secret 
=> club and only we know the secret 
=> handshake!  bow down before us, unknowing nerd!"
=> 
=> Michael J. Babcock, MCP

Oooh.  I love it when you talk dirty 

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I'm Baaaaa-aaack!

[Vince Teachout]

I just wanted to let you know that I am back home from the hospital, 
that I am recovering rapidly, and even "working" (ha ha) a bit today.

I want to thank you all very much for your prayers, concern,  and best 
wishes.  It means a lot to me.

I was blown away by the number of people who actually called the house 
and left messages, as well as those who e-mailed, and those who offered 
to help.

I can't stay on the computer very long, yet, but hope to be back to 
annoying the list quickly.   Thank you all again -- this is the best 
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Special debt of gratitude

[Vince Teachout]

Thank you so much to Michael Babcock, and John Harvey, who stepped 
forward and gave generously of their time and expertise to help my 
client, when I couldn't. 

Of course, it would have to be the code in *THAT* project that they had 
too see.  I couldn't have been one of my *GOOD* projects!

Thank you, and please don't hesitate to let me know if I can return the 
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RE: [OT] Mike's Election Prediction

[Virgil Bierschwale]

Funny thing about people.
They think that if they bury their heads in the sand or isolate themselves
behind gated communities with security guards that they are protected and
that nobody will hurt them.

They forget that it wasn’t but a 150 years or so ago that people were
willing to die to give them the freedoms they experience now and I guess it
will take an armed coordinated attack on a lot of the major cities at the
same time to make them realize how fragile the freedoms we take for granted
really are.

Then they will be clamoring for the military that they decimated needs to
protect them because they won't be able to do it themselves because they
believe that ordinary people should not have the right to own guns and
defend their property and families.


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
Of Michael Madigan
Sent: Wednesday, November 08, 2006 9:47 AM
To: ProFox Email List
Subject: RE: [OT] Mike's Election Prediction

America decided to strap on a suicide bomb belt and
blow themselves up.

Who's happier this morning?  Bin Laden, Kim Jung Il,
or Nancy Pelosi?



--- Adam Buckland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> So, how are your election predictions panning out?
> 
> I see one H Clinton is now the odds on favourite for
> 2008.
> 
> ::a
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> Behalf Of Michael Madigan
> Sent: 07 November 2006 21:35
> To: profox@leafe.com
> Subject: [OT] Mike's Election Prediction
> 
> Senate
> 
> Republicans   50 seats
> Democrats 48 Seats
> Independents   2 Seats
> 
> 
> House
> 
> Republicans  218 Seats
> Democrats217 Seats
>  
> 
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RE: I'm Baaaaa-aaack!

[Hal Kaplan]

Good to see you back here, Vince.  Welcome back and here's to a
continued speedy recovery.

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Re: I'm Baaaaa-aaack!

[Casey McGuire]

Glad your back Vince.  Hope all goes well with your recovery.

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Re: Special debt of gratitude

[MB Software Solutions]

Vince Teachout wrote:
> Thank you so much to Michael Babcock, and John Harvey, who stepped 
> forward and gave generously of their time and expertise to help my 
> client, when I couldn't. 
>
> Of course, it would have to be the code in *THAT* project that they had 
> too see.  I couldn't have been one of my *GOOD* projects!
>
> Thank you, and please don't hesitate to let me know if I can return the 
> favor.
>   

You're quite welcome, Vince!  Hey, that code wasn't too bad at allI 
enjoyed working on it for you.  It's some of the better code I've seen 
from other developers!

--Michael

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Thanks also...

[Vince Teachout]

I'd like to especially thank those of you who called, or wrote, and 
offered to help:

Bill Arnold
Mathew Jarvis
Virgil Bierschwale
Pablo Rivera
Dennis Carol

These are only the people who I * know* about.  I apologize that I don't 
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RE: [OT] Mike's Election Prediction

[Michael Madigan]

America may have just signed its death sentence



--- Virgil Bierschwale <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Funny thing about people.
> They think that if they bury their heads in the sand
> or isolate themselves
> behind gated communities with security guards that
> they are protected and
> that nobody will hurt them.
> 
> They forget that it wasn’t but a 150 years or so ago
> that people were
> willing to die to give them the freedoms they
> experience now and I guess it
> will take an armed coordinated attack on a lot of
> the major cities at the
> same time to make them realize how fragile the
> freedoms we take for granted
> really are.
> 
> Then they will be clamoring for the military that
> they decimated needs to
> protect them because they won't be able to do it
> themselves because they
> believe that ordinary people should not have the
> right to own guns and
> defend their property and families.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
> Of Michael Madigan
> Sent: Wednesday, November 08, 2006 9:47 AM
> To: ProFox Email List
> Subject: RE: [OT] Mike's Election Prediction
> 
> America decided to strap on a suicide bomb belt and
> blow themselves up.
> 
> Who's happier this morning?  Bin Laden, Kim Jung Il,
> or Nancy Pelosi?
> 
> 
> 
> --- Adam Buckland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> 
> > So, how are your election predictions panning out?
> > 
> > I see one H Clinton is now the odds on favourite
> for
> > 2008.
> > 
> > ::a
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> > Behalf Of Michael Madigan
> > Sent: 07 November 2006 21:35
> > To: profox@leafe.com
> > Subject: [OT] Mike's Election Prediction
> > 
> > Senate
> > 
> > Republicans   50 seats
> > Democrats 48 Seats
> > Independents   2 Seats
> > 
> > 
> > House
> > 
> > Republicans  218 Seats
> > Democrats217 Seats
> >  
> > 
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PING: Bill Sanders

[Vince Teachout]

Does anyone have a different email for Bill Sanders? 
I keep getting a bounce-back at [EMAIL PROTECTED]


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Re: VFP/MySQL issue for private variables in SQL statement on Windows vs Linux backends

[Whil Hentzen (Pro*)]

>> What about knocking the SELECT down a bit - do it without a WHERE 
>> clause, or (if that would return too many rows) a hard-coded iAge = 37. 
>> Then add iAge = ?piAge. Then add one of the two date ends (dDate > 
>> ?pdBegDate. And so on...
>>   
> Kevin's TEXTMERGE idea seems to have fit the bill perfectly, so no need 
> for that...but thanks anyway!

So what was the problem in the first place, that textmerge solved?

>> Green? I don't think that works with your complexion. You need to see a 
>> professional. IMHO, of course.
>>   
> 
> Oh there's no doubt about that...hopefully the Doc will give me the 
> script when I see him tomorrow!   ;-)  Can't wait for this year to be 
> overit's not been memorable for me!
> 



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Re: Congrats Doug Hennig!

[Vince Teachout]

MB Software Solutions wrote:
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> Congratulations to Doug Hennig (www.stonefield.com) on his VFP Life Time 
> Achievement Award presented by Ken Levy of Microsoft (aka www.live.com and 
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RE: Special debt of gratitude

[Dave Crozier]

Vince,
Nice to see you back. 

Just TAKE IT EASY from now on or you'll be "persona non grata" in this
group...do you hear? 

Dave Crozier
 The secret to staying young is to live honestly, eat slowly, and to lie
about your age 

 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
Of Vince Teachout
Sent: 08 November 2006 15:53
To: Profox
Subject: Special debt of gratitude

Thank you so much to Michael Babcock, and John Harvey, who stepped forward
and gave generously of their time and expertise to help my client, when I
couldn't. 

Of course, it would have to be the code in *THAT* project that they had too
see.  I couldn't have been one of my *GOOD* projects!

Thank you, and please don't hesitate to let me know if I can return the
favor.


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Re: [OT] Mike's Election Prediction

[Jean Laeremans]

On 11/8/06, Michael Madigan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> America may have just signed its death sentence

Sour grapes ?

A+
jml


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Re: I'm Baaaaa-aaack!

[Kevin Cully]

Welcome back!

Kevin Cully
CULLY Technologies, LLC

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Re: PING: Bill Sanders

[MB Software Solutions]

Vince Teachout wrote:
> Does anyone have a different email for Bill Sanders? 
> I keep getting a bounce-back at [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>   

Take out the 'bob' part.

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Re: [OT] Mike's Election Prediction

[Michael Madigan]

I'm truly afraid.


--- Jean Laeremans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

> On 11/8/06, Michael Madigan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> > America may have just signed its death sentence
> 
> Sour grapes ?
> 
> A+
> jml
> 
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RE: PING: Bill Sanders

[Tracy Pearson]

Will is on the IRC right now, I'm attempting to get his attention.
I'll let him know you are hunting him out.

Tracy


> -Original Message-
> From: Vince Teachout
> Sent: Wednesday, November 08, 2006 11:01 AM
>
>
> Does anyone have a different email for Bill Sanders?
> I keep getting a bounce-back at [EMAIL PROTECTED]




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Re: I'm Baaaaa-aaack!

[Jean Laeremans]

On 11/8/06, Vince Teachout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I just wanted to let you know that I am back home from the hospital,
> that I am recovering rapidly, and even "working" (ha ha) a bit today.
>
> I want to thank you all very much for your prayers, concern,  and best
> wishes.  It means a lot to me.
>
> I was blown away by the number of people who actually called the house
> and left messages, as well as those who e-mailed, and those who offered
> to help.
>
> I can't stay on the computer very long, yet, but hope to be back to
> annoying the list quickly.   Thank you all again -- this is the best
> list on the planet!
>
Glad to see you back, but take it easy for now
A+
jml


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Re: [OT] Mike's Election Prediction

[Jean Laeremans]

On 11/8/06, Michael Madigan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I'm truly afraid.

You'll get over it given time

A+
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Re: I'm Baaaaa-aaack!

[Richard Kaye]

Great news, Vince! All the best to you and my wishes for a speedy recovery.

Vince Teachout wrote:
> I just wanted to let you know that I am back home from the hospital, 
> that I am recovering rapidly, and even "working" (ha ha) a bit today.
>
> I want to thank you all very much for your prayers, concern,  and best 
> wishes.  It means a lot to me.
>
> I was blown away by the number of people who actually called the house 
> and left messages, as well as those who e-mailed, and those who offered 
> to help.
>
> I can't stay on the computer very long, yet, but hope to be back to 
> annoying the list quickly.   Thank you all again -- this is the best 
> list on the planet!
>
>   

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RE: Special debt of gratitude

[john harvey]

You know wine gets better with age, but I've seen code I supposedly wrote a
few years back and I swear somebody else stepped in and rewrote my
masterpiece!  The code wasn't bad. I did notice you didn't use the dwim() in
many instances, which would have fixed the problems. But, then again, not
everyone knows about that little function.

John Harvey

-Original Message-
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Of Vince Teachout
Sent: Wednesday, November 08, 2006 9:53 AM
To: Profox
Subject: Special debt of gratitude

Thank you so much to Michael Babcock, and John Harvey, who stepped 
forward and gave generously of their time and expertise to help my 
client, when I couldn't. 

Of course, it would have to be the code in *THAT* project that they had 
too see.  I couldn't have been one of my *GOOD* projects!

Thank you, and please don't hesitate to let me know if I can return the 
favor.


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RE: I'm Baaaaa-aaack!

[mrgmhale]

Welcome back, Vince.  I am glad you are recovering so nicely.  Now get off
the computer and let your body continue to heal!

Gil

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Vince Teachout
> Sent: Wednesday, November 08, 2006 10:50 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: I'm Ba-aaack!
>
>
> I just wanted to let you know that I am back home from the hospital,
> that I am recovering rapidly, and even "working" (ha ha) a bit today.
>
> I want to thank you all very much for your prayers, concern,  and best
> wishes.  It means a lot to me.
>
> I was blown away by the number of people who actually called the house
> and left messages, as well as those who e-mailed, and those who offered
> to help.
>
> I can't stay on the computer very long, yet, but hope to be back to
> annoying the list quickly.   Thank you all again -- this is the best
> list on the planet!
>
>
>
>
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Re: VFP/MySQL issue for private variables in SQL statement on Windows vs Linux backends

[MB Software Solutions]

Whil Hentzen (Pro*) wrote:

 

>> Kevin's TEXTMERGE idea seems to have fit the bill perfectly, so no need 
>> for that...but thanks anyway!
>> 
>
> So what was the problem in the first place, that textmerge solved?
>   
The textmerge substituted the values explicitly, so that resolved what 
wasn't seeming to work with private variables being referenced with the 
question mark in front of them.  Of course, that puts the onus on you to 
make sure they're delimited correctly, whereas if the private vars had 
worked as expected, that wouldn't be a concern.


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RE: PING: Bill Sanders

[Kevin Ragsdale]

Vince Teachout wrote:

> Does anyone have a different email for Bill Sanders?
> I keep getting a bounce-back at [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Hi Vince,

Take the "bob" out. :)

Welcome back, BTW, and best wishes for a speedy recovery!

Kevin




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Re: PING: Bill Sanders

[Vince Teachout]

Kevin Ragsdale wrote:
> Hi Vince,
>
> Take the "bob" out. :)
>   
Thanks, Kevin,  Mike, Tracy.  De-bobbing it seems to have done the trick.


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RE: [NF] FireFox and Explorer Display Differently

[Allen]

I cant see anything either. Firefox 2 and ie7
Allen 

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Behalf Of Paul Hill
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Subject: Re: [NF] FireFox and Explorer Display Differently

On 11/8/06, Charles Hart Enzer, M.D. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Why do FireFox and Explorer display this page differently?
>
>  http://homepages.uc.edu/~enzerch/reviews/past_new.html
>
> Thank you.

They look very similar to me.  Running Firefox 2 and IE 7.

-- 
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Re: VFP/MySQL issue for private variables in SQL statement on Windows vs Linux backends

[Whil Hentzen (Pro*)]

MB Software Solutions wrote:
> Whil Hentzen (Pro*) wrote:
> 
>  
> 
>>> Kevin's TEXTMERGE idea seems to have fit the bill perfectly, so no need 
>>> for that...but thanks anyway!
>>> 
>> So what was the problem in the first place, that textmerge solved?
>>   
> The textmerge substituted the values explicitly, so that resolved what 
> wasn't seeming to work with private variables being referenced with the 
> question mark in front of them.  Of course, that puts the onus on you to 
> make sure they're delimited correctly, whereas if the private vars had 
> worked as expected, that wouldn't be a concern.

But this still doesn't explain why the same code worked locally but not 
remotely. It WASs the same code, right?

Whil


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Re: [OT] Mike's Election Prediction

[Leland Jackson]

HaHaaHaaa

You guys are so easily terrorized.  The American people have asked that 
our country take a new direction.  The American people want to restore 
integrity to our government and the country as a whole.  The American 
people want integrity built into the election and voting process.  The 
American people want an open and honest government, that serves the 
interest of all Americans, not just the select few.  The American people 
want a united America, not a divided America.  The American people want 
checks and balances within the branches of government, that insures 
accountability.  The American people want fairness in taxation and a 
balanced budget.  The American people want their elected official to 
represent them, rather than representing the special interests of a few, 
or representing the special interest of a radical religious right that 
is pushing a theological agenda.

A Democratically control house intends to implement all the 
recommendations of the 9/11 commission.  The new Congress will also 
guard our constitutional freedoms, privacy, and rights to due process, 
while providing an America that is more secure than ever.  Constitution 
freedoms, privacy,  and rights to due process are not mutually exclusive 
of having an aggressive program to protect American from radicals, 
whatever their strips,  that would use violence as a means to spreading 
their message.

#--
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the time, but you cannot fool all the people all the time.  -- Abraham 
Lincoln
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Regards,

LelandJ

Michael Madigan wrote:

>America decided to strap on a suicide bomb belt and
>blow themselves up.
>
>Who's happier this morning?  Bin Laden, Kim Jung Il,
>or Nancy Pelosi?
>
>
>
>--- Adam Buckland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>  
>
>>So, how are your election predictions panning out?
>>
>>I see one H Clinton is now the odds on favourite for
>>2008.
>>
>>::a
>>
>>
>>
>>-Original Message-
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>>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
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>>Sent: 07 November 2006 21:35
>>To: profox@leafe.com
>>Subject: [OT] Mike's Election Prediction
>>
>>Senate
>>
>>Republicans   50 seats
>>Democrats 48 Seats
>>Independents   2 Seats
>>
>>
>>House
>>
>>Republicans  218 Seats
>>Democrats217 Seats
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VFP - Remote Connections - How many, how often?

[Steve Ellenoff]

I'm curious what everyone's adopted standard is regarding creating 
remote connections to access remote databases from VFP.

Specifically, how often do you create/open and close connections in 
both a desktop and web environment? Some may use different approaches 
for each environment, others may use the same for both.

I can imagine two approaches:

1) Create 1 global shared connection *for each database* you need to 
connect @ startup - All forms, business objects,  web pages, etc.. 
look to use this connection. The connection remains open the life 
time of the application. Multiple open forms on a desktop app will 
still only use the 1 connection, thus with 6 open forms, only 1 
connection is used. Each web process will use the same global 
connection to process an incoming request.

2) Create all connections as needed and close when done, aka, all 
forms, business objects, web pages, etc open their own connections as 
needed. The connection is only open as long as the need to pull/push 
the data exists. Multiple open forms on a desktop app will each have 
1 or more connections, thus with 6 open forms, a minimum of 6 
connections per user can be possible. Each web process will create a 
new connection to process the incoming request, but since web 
processes can only operate 1 at a time, only 1 connection per 
database would be open realistically.


Approach 1
Pros:
1) Limits the # of active connections at a given time to absolute minimum
a) Especially important if licensing is tied to # of connections.
b) Beneficial for memory usage on pc & server? (I'm assuming this 
is true, but have not tested to be sure).

2) Keeps network traffic down?  (I'm assuming this is true, but have 
not tested to be sure).

Cons:
1) Possibility that the connection becomes unavailable during it's 
lifetime, so code must be written to ensure the connection is still active.
2) Overuse of a single connection could cause performance degradation 
to the overall application or to the server? (I'm just guessing, I 
haven't tested to see if this is actually true).


Approach 2:
Pros:
1) More open to object oriented approach where everything is self-contained.
2) Connections don't remain open when not in direct use.

Cons:
1) May exceed max # of allowed or licensed connections
2) Keeps more connections open than is necessary


I am personally leaning towards Approach 1 for both web & desktop 
apps as it seems to make much more sense based on the pros & cons I 
could think of, but wanted to hear what your opinions were since you 
may have thought of issues that I am forgetting or have personal 
experience which proves one way is better.

Thanks-
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Re: VFP - Remote Connections - How many, how often?

[Steve Ellenoff]

Special for Whil:

Just send me your completed Appendix to your MySQL book about 
Connection Strategies, as it seems you've outlined the very questions 
I have.. No wonder I came up with them reading your book! :)

Unfortunately, looks like I might be waiting awhile till you reach 
that section.. ;)


-Steve


At 11:54 AM 11/8/2006, you wrote:
>I'm curious what everyone's adopted standard is regarding creating
>remote connections to access remote databases from VFP.
>
>Specifically, how often do you create/open and close connections in
>both a desktop and web environment? Some may use different approaches
>for each environment, others may use the same for both.
>
>I can imagine two approaches:
>
>1) Create 1 global shared connection *for each database* you need to
>connect @ startup - All forms, business objects,  web pages, etc..
>look to use this connection. The connection remains open the life
>time of the application. Multiple open forms on a desktop app will
>still only use the 1 connection, thus with 6 open forms, only 1
>connection is used. Each web process will use the same global
>connection to process an incoming request.
>
>2) Create all connections as needed and close when done, aka, all
>forms, business objects, web pages, etc open their own connections as
>needed. The connection is only open as long as the need to pull/push
>the data exists. Multiple open forms on a desktop app will each have
>1 or more connections, thus with 6 open forms, a minimum of 6
>connections per user can be possible. Each web process will create a
>new connection to process the incoming request, but since web
>processes can only operate 1 at a time, only 1 connection per
>database would be open realistically.
>
>
>Approach 1
>Pros:
>1) Limits the # of active connections at a given time to absolute minimum
> a) Especially important if licensing is tied to # of connections.
> b) Beneficial for memory usage on pc & server? (I'm assuming this
>is true, but have not tested to be sure).
>
>2) Keeps network traffic down?  (I'm assuming this is true, but have
>not tested to be sure).
>
>Cons:
>1) Possibility that the connection becomes unavailable during it's
>lifetime, so code must be written to ensure the connection is still active.
>2) Overuse of a single connection could cause performance degradation
>to the overall application or to the server? (I'm just guessing, I
>haven't tested to see if this is actually true).
>
>
>Approach 2:
>Pros:
>1) More open to object oriented approach where everything is self-contained.
>2) Connections don't remain open when not in direct use.
>
>Cons:
>1) May exceed max # of allowed or licensed connections
>2) Keeps more connections open than is necessary
>
>
>I am personally leaning towards Approach 1 for both web & desktop
>apps as it seems to make much more sense based on the pros & cons I
>could think of, but wanted to hear what your opinions were since you
>may have thought of issues that I am forgetting or have personal
>experience which proves one way is better.
>
>Thanks-
>Steve
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: [OT] Mike's Election Prediction

[Michael Madigan]

It's not a matter of getting over it.  I don't care
abour raised taxes and higher unemployment because
I'll survive no matter what.

What scares me is that they'll prevent NSA wiretapping
and other means to protect this country.

The Muslims aren't going to spare their lives, they'll
be the first to die.



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> On 11/8/06, Michael Madigan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> > I'm truly afraid.
> 
> You'll get over it given time
> 
> A+
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Re: [OT] Mike's Election Prediction

[Michael Madigan]

The American people are going to regret this one, just
like they regretted the Carter election.


--- Leland Jackson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> HaHaaHaaa
> 
> You guys are so easily terrorized.  The American
> people have asked that 
> our country take a new direction.  The American
> people want to restore 
> integrity to our government and the country as a
> whole.  The American 
> people want integrity built into the election and
> voting process.  The 
> American people want an open and honest government,
> that serves the 
> interest of all Americans, not just the select few. 
> The American people 
> want a united America, not a divided America.  The
> American people want 
> checks and balances within the branches of
> government, that insures 
> accountability.  The American people want fairness
> in taxation and a 
> balanced budget.  The American people want their
> elected official to 
> represent them, rather than representing the special
> interests of a few, 
> or representing the special interest of a radical
> religious right that 
> is pushing a theological agenda.
> 
> A Democratically control house intends to implement
> all the 
> recommendations of the 9/11 commission.  The new
> Congress will also 
> guard our constitutional freedoms, privacy, and
> rights to due process, 
> while providing an America that is more secure than
> ever.  Constitution 
> freedoms, privacy,  and rights to due process are
> not mutually exclusive 
> of having an aggressive program to protect American
> from radicals, 
> whatever their strips,  that would use violence as a
> means to spreading 
> their message.
> 
> #--
> You can fool all the people some of the time, and
> some of the people all 
> the time, but you cannot fool all the people all the
> time.  -- Abraham 
> Lincoln
> #--
> 
> Regards,
> 
> LelandJ
> 
> Michael Madigan wrote:
> 
> >America decided to strap on a suicide bomb belt and
> >blow themselves up.
> >
> >Who's happier this morning?  Bin Laden, Kim Jung
> Il,
> >or Nancy Pelosi?
> >
> >
> >
> >--- Adam Buckland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> >
> >  
> >
> >>So, how are your election predictions panning out?
> >>
> >>I see one H Clinton is now the odds on favourite
> for
> >>2008.
> >>
> >>::a
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>-Original Message-
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> >>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> >>Behalf Of Michael Madigan
> >>Sent: 07 November 2006 21:35
> >>To: profox@leafe.com
> >>Subject: [OT] Mike's Election Prediction
> >>
> >>Senate
> >>
> >>Republicans   50 seats
> >>Democrats 48 Seats
> >>Independents   2 Seats
> >>
> >>
> >>House
> >>
> >>Republicans  218 Seats
> >>Democrats217 Seats
> >> 
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[OT] Satan's Election : Pa. Lottery Hits 6-6-6 On Election Night

[Michael Madigan]

Any doubt who Satan wanted to win?


http://www.nbc10.com/news/10267475/detail.html

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Re: VFP/MySQL issue for private variables in SQL statement on Windows vs Linux backends

[MB Software Solutions]

Whil Hentzen (Pro*) wrote:
> But this still doesn't explain why the same code worked locally but not 
> remotely. It WASs the same code, right?
>
>
>   
Sure...same code, and I'm positive because of the approach I was using.  
I grabbed the SQL statement from my local meta-data DBF table, then 
executed the SQLEXEC, with the same variables in playthe only thing 
different was my connection string pointing to the Linux web database 
versus the local Windows database.

One for the "X-files" I guess.  ;-) 

I kinda like Kevin's way better because (and I'm not sure of this, so 
correct me if wrong) the logging should note more specifically what 
values were passed (but then again, perhaps it already does with private 
variable evaluation with the ?variables?).  I've not analyzed the log 
files much, so I could be wrong.  ?!?


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Donald Rumsfeld to resign

[Michael Madigan]

We are the biggest losers.  If he was going to resign,
why not resign 6 months ago?

This is total bs.

The Republicans are acting like losers now.

Stand up and fight!

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[OT] Donald Rumsfeld to resign

[Michael Madigan]

We are the biggest losers.  If he was going to resign,
why not resign 6 months ago?

This is total bs.

The Republicans are acting like losers now.

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Sorry for the OT post

[Michael Madigan]

Sorry for the OT post


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Rumsfeld to resign

[Michael Madigan]

We are the biggest losers.  If he was going to resign,
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This is total bs.

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RE: Sorry for the OT post

[mrgmhale]

No problem, seemed almost appropriate today.  BTW, why is Montana still
regarded as undecided for Senate?  Seems to me that is now a given (13:00
20061108).

Gil

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Re: Sorry for the OT post

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Michael Madigan wrote:
> Sorry for the OT post
>
>   

That's a $1 towards the 2007 Hotlanta Slush Fund (aka FoxForward 2007).  

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RE: Rumsfeld to resign

[john harvey]

Ebb and flow. Nobody stays on top all the time. It's catharsis time for us.
We'll be back in two years. 

John

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Re: Containers ActiveX HELP PLEASE

[Malcolm Greene]

AJ,

> I need the objects to go outside the visible borders so that i can scroll 
> them. I'm showing thumbnails inside of a container object.

Check out Carlos Alloatti scrollable container for VFP 9. An incredible
class that's free with complete source. Highly recommended!!!

http://www.ctl32.com.ar/ctl32_scontainer.asp

Lots of other great VFP components on Carlos's site.

Malcolm


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[NF] Vista RTM marks the end of an era

[Ted Roche]

Mary Jo Foley posts "Vista RTM marks the end of an era"

"The expected announcement on November 8 of the release to
manufacturing (RTM) of Windows Vista is a milestone on many fronts.
For one, it's the end of the Jim Allchin era (and the start of the
Steven Sinofsky one), in terms of Windows leadership at Microsoft."

http://blogs.zdnet.com/microsoft/?p=92

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RE: [OT] Mike's Election Prediction

[Kristyne McDaniel]

Madigan,

> America may have just signed its death sentence

Now you know how I felt in 1994 and again in 2000.

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RE: [OT] Mike's Election Prediction

[Michael Madigan]

But America got better with those two elections.

Raise my taxes, give my money to losers and welfare
queens, let the fags get married, I can take it.  

Allow the Muslims to kill us, that's what I can't
take.



--- Kristyne McDaniel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Madigan,
> 
> > America may have just signed its death sentence
> 
> Now you know how I felt in 1994 and again in 2000.
> 
> Kristyne McDaniel
> www.mcstyles.com
> www.shamrocktrails.com
> 
> 
> 
> 
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RE: I'm Baaaaa-aaack!

[Malcolm Greene]

Welcome back Vince!

Now shut off the computer and relax!!! :)

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Re: VFP - Remote Connections - How many, how often?

[Kevin Cully]

As a developer, I like to open up global connections and keep them open. 
From a DBA perspective, they like us meager developers to close the 
connections to help with server resources, and (I suspect the real 
reason) is that they don't violate their licensing.

I haven't ever had problems with the connection using VFP to SQL Server. 
  I don't have enough experience with MySQL to say however.  I would 
think that a connection manager, that wraps communications in a TRY 
CATCH would work well when attempting to keep connections open.

HTH.

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> I'm curious what everyone's adopted standard is regarding creating 
> remote connections to access remote databases from VFP.



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RE: [OT] Mike's Election Prediction

[Kristyne McDaniel]

Madigan,

> But America got better with those two elections.

I don't see it that way at all. A lot of us don't. That's why the
Republicans aren't in charge of Congress anymore.

To many of us, the period of time since the Congress changed hands has been
difficult, and since 2000 it has been an absolute nightmare with a partisan
boob in the Oil Office backed up by a bunch of corrupt, rubber-stamp
wielding hacks in Congress. I've been trying hard to wake up from that
nightmare for nearly 6 years now. Today it finally looks like things will
get better again. Finally.

My world improves when guys like you start to question whether your extreme
views are actually a minority position after all. I have no problem with you
having your views. My problem with your views is when you think everyone
should be on your side because you have the ONLY 'right' opinion.

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RE: [OT] Mike's Election Prediction

[Michael Madigan]

Well no one's going to nuke your ranch, but I'm within
the footprint  if a nuke goes off in Manhattan




--- Kristyne McDaniel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Madigan,
> 
> > But America got better with those two elections.
> 
> I don't see it that way at all. A lot of us don't.
> That's why the
> Republicans aren't in charge of Congress anymore.
> 
> To many of us, the period of time since the Congress
> changed hands has been
> difficult, and since 2000 it has been an absolute
> nightmare with a partisan
> boob in the Oil Office backed up by a bunch of
> corrupt, rubber-stamp
> wielding hacks in Congress. I've been trying hard to
> wake up from that
> nightmare for nearly 6 years now. Today it finally
> looks like things will
> get better again. Finally.
> 
> My world improves when guys like you start to
> question whether your extreme
> views are actually a minority position after all. I
> have no problem with you
> having your views. My problem with your views is
> when you think everyone
> should be on your side because you have the ONLY
> 'right' opinion.
> 
> Kristyne McDaniel
> www.mcstyles.com
> www.shamrocktrails.com
> 
> 
> 
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[OT] Rumsfeld?

[Russell Stephen]

>From  So Long, Farewell

[Children:]
So long, farewell, auf Wiedersehen, goodbye
[Kurt:]
I leave and heave a sigh and say goodbye -- Goodbye!

All I can say is it's five years to late.  Amazing how when America
reacts our dufus president can finally do something for the country.
What a piece of work, he and his cronies!   

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Re: VFP - Remote Connections - How many, how often?

[Ted Roche]

On 11/8/06, Steve Ellenoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I'm curious what everyone's adopted standard is regarding creating
> remote connections to access remote databases from VFP.
>

Like most situations, you need to strike a balance between competing
demands. Different demands take on different magnitudes for each
application, so these are the thing you try to balance:

1. Connections consume resources on the server, so they will limit how
many connctions can be made, and how far the server can scale. If each
connection is 64 kb, ten thousand of them is 640 Mb.

2. Establishing and closing connections consumes precious processing
time, on both ends of the connection. While an open- and close-cycle
may only take 400 ms and 50 ms respectively, doing a hundred of them
in a row to process a hundred rows of data consumes a lot of time. And
tracking opening and closing logic to make sure you're not leaking
unclosed connections is introducing more bugs. There can't be bugs in
code that's not there.

3. You can maintain one "master" connection, as long as you only
perform transient (quick and complete) operations on it. There are
situations where you'll want to create an asyncronous transaction
(launching a time-consuming process, checking back on it later) or a
progressive fetch (great for filling grids with large amounts of data
without downloading any more than needed), both of which tie up a
connection. These connections should be separate and temporary and
closed as quickly as possible, both for licensing considerations (if
applicable) and for #1 above.

As I said: different situations can dictate different choices: servers
that host huge numbers of connections might dictate only connecting
when needed, processor-bound servers might not want to handle the
overhead of connecting and disconnecting. Whichever you decide, bear
in mind you'll want to keep you options open, and have some means
(like a Connection manager) of centralizing your behavior and tracking
and instrumenting what you're doing.

-- 
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Re: [NF] Windows Vista

[Charlie Coleman]

At 10:56 AM 11/8/2006 +0100, Jean Laeremans wrote:
>On 11/8/06, Paul Hill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On 11/8/06, Ted Roche <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Unless your clients are demanding Vista. Are they, Virgil?
> >
> > The problem is that the likes of Dell will be shipping in Vista come
> > next year.
...
>Our dep. must have around 50,000 PCs. All those PCs run W2K . Tests
>are going on with OO. I expect in a few years Linux will be on our
>desktops (it is already on our IBM servers) I think the heydays of
>windows are over
...

I think you're going to have great success with that. Too bad VFP will end 
up getting left behind (but Dabo Dabo!!)

Of course, I'm worried you'll have a lot of success because it'll mean that 
the US will end up getting left behind. While companies here spend billions 
on the Windows patches, blame games, buzzword-chases, yada yada, you guys 
will be putting the money in to R&D and business needs. But losing ground 
in the market is apparently what it will take for US companies to wake up. 
Our IT 'professionals' and 'PHBs' are just too lazy do things right on 
their own (yes, a generalization).



-Charlie



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