RE: [OT] Toshi, aka Helio explained

[Michael Madigan]

You're not really heterosexual if you have to force
your wife to wear a George Michael mask when you make
love to her.  Doesn't she have a hard time breathing
throught that?  Oh I suppose it's all over in less
than a minute so she won't sufficate.


--- Adam Buckland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I'm heterosexual, and you're homophobic Michael.
> 
> ::a
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> 
> You use that word, homophobia, an awful lot.  That's
> the favorite word of homosexuals.  You never hear a
> heterosexual man use that word.
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RE: [OT] Toshi, aka Helio explained

[Adam Buckland]

I'm heterosexual, and you're homophobic Michael.

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You use that word, homophobia, an awful lot.  That's
the favorite word of homosexuals.  You never hear a
heterosexual man use that word.

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RE: [NF] Getting XP workstation to access the network/file server

[John C. Gunvaldson]

Thanks, all. Note that I will NOT be writing an article about this because I
still think it's all black magic. If something failed, the 
only thing I could do is 'reinstall'.  Whil


You could always post a note up on the ProFox email list 

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Windows recovery

[Andrew Stirling]

Hi

A tale

Bought my Son a super games machine Feb 06.

With hindsight they 'Panrix' UK had oversold the system.
ie They assumed that when they had sent it for review, (Dec) it, ( ie 
the component cost) would be much cheaper come Feb review.
They went bust because they could not supply the system at the declared 
price. I was 1 of the lucky guys that got it.

'Alan' + 'Brat 1 & 2' enjoyed it big time.

I'm a very happy punter.

I had the foresight to run 'Acronis' on it so that I could recover 
problems. After all they 'Alan + Brat1 & 2' could(would) cock this up 
big time.

Panrix has gone bust so no help from them.


It was cocked up big time.

Could not even get the 'XP' recovery to work.

Lets run 'Acronis' & restore the image back to a healthy state.

Opps its a SATA drive, we do not recover from that!.
The b--ds backed up to it!
So why did they not tell me it would not work for a Sata drive

Pissed OFF. BIG TIME.


OK I was using Ver8 but it is *NOT* that old.

***
Acttualy Ver8 would have recovered, however it displayed an error 'Can't 
find disk' which I thought meant the HD was down, so I went for a full 
restore.
Hey at the end of the day I have now got the sound system performing as 
it should!

The moral, of course, is a backup is worthless unless you can restore.

So take your backup, change 1 thing, then restore.

Did it work

God knows how often I have told my clients this!

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Re: [OT] Toshi, aka Helio explained

[Michael Madigan]

Sure I do, I consider you a friend, Toshi honey.



--- "Helio W." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> And of course, Madagain has no girl friends.
> 
> On 12/12/06, Helio W. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> >
> > Also, Madagain is a lier. Just pay attention, he
> always try to mention
> > that he has a girl friend there, another girl
> friend there, etc, never tells
> > he has a male friend, it's obvious he's affraid
> somebody will think he's
> > homosexual just because he has male friends.
> >
> > On 12/12/06, Justin Darnell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> > >
> > > What would you possibly be searching for to find
> this?
> > >
> > > Justin
> > >
> > > On 12/12/06, Michael Madigan
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
>
http://www.geocities.co.jp/Berkeley/3508/japanesehistory.html
> > > >
> > > > Christmas gifts for Real Americans
> > > > Free Shipping for orders over $50
> > > > http://www.cafepress.com/rightwingmike
> > > >
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Re: [OT] Toshi, aka Helio explained

[Michael Madigan]

I see you're afraid to use a spell checker, Yoko.



--- "Helio W." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Also, Madagain is a lier. Just pay attention, he
> always try to mention that
> he has a girl friend there, another girl friend
> there, etc, never tells he
> has a male friend, it's obvious he's affraid
> somebody will think he's
> homosexual just because he has male friends.
> 
> On 12/12/06, Justin Darnell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> >
> > What would you possibly be searching for to find
> this?
> >
> > Justin
> >
> > On 12/12/06, Michael Madigan
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > >
>
http://www.geocities.co.jp/Berkeley/3508/japanesehistory.html
> > >
> > > Christmas gifts for Real Americans
> > > Free Shipping for orders over $50
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Re: [OT] Toshi, aka Helio explained

[Michael Madigan]

You use that word, homophobia, an awful lot.  That's
the favorite word of homosexuals.  You never hear a
heterosexual man use that word.

Put on that kimono and be proud my little homosexual
friend!






--- "Helio W." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Michael is homophobic. He hates everything because
> he hasn't the courage to
> get out of the closet and lives in frustration.
> 
> 
> 
> Is Homophobia Associated With Homosexual Arousal?
> 
> Henry E. Adams, Lester W. Wright, Jr., and Bethany
> A. Lohr
> University of Georgia
> 
> The authors investigated the role of homosexual
> arousal in exclusively
> heterosexual men who ad-
> mitted negative affect toward homosexual
> individuals. Participants consisted
> of a group of homo-
> phobic men (n = 35) and a group of nonhomophobic men
> (n = 29); they were
> assigned to groups
> on the basis of their scores on the Index of
> Homophobia (W. W. Hudson & W.
> A. Ricketts, 1980).
> The men were exposed to sexually explicit erotic
> stimuli consisting of
> heterosexual, male homosex-
> ual, and lesbian videotapes, and changes in penile
> circumference were
> monitored. They also com-
> pleted an Aggression Questionnaire (A. H. Buss & M.
> Perry, 1992 ). Both
> groups exhibited increases
> in penile circumference to the heterosexual and
> female homosexual videos.
> Only the homophobic
> men showed an increase in penile erection to male
> homosexual stimuli. The
> groups did not differ in
> aggression. Homophobia is apparently associated with
> homosexual arousal that
> the homophobic
> individual is either unaware of or denies.
> 
> *http://tinyurl.com/y5zhno
> *
> 
> On 12/12/06, Justin Darnell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> >
> > What would you possibly be searching for to find
> this?
> >
> > Justin
> >
> > On 12/12/06, Michael Madigan
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > >
>
http://www.geocities.co.jp/Berkeley/3508/japanesehistory.html
> > >
> > > Christmas gifts for Real Americans
> > > Free Shipping for orders over $50
> > > http://www.cafepress.com/rightwingmike
> > >
> > >
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Re: [NF] Getting XP workstation to access the network/file server

[Whil Hentzen (Pro*)]

> To change a computer name and to join a domain or a workgroup, follow
> these steps: 1. Click the Computer Name tab, and then click Change. 
> 
> 2. Type the new computer name in the Computer name dialog box. 
> 3. Type the new domain or workgroup in either the Domain dialog box or
> the Workgroup dialog box.  
> 4. Click More to change the primary Domain Name System (DNS) suffix.

And that would be the ticket.

Took me a half hour to find out what a primary DNS suffix is... woulja 
believe I've _never_ heard that term before?

But apparently I'm on the domain now, can set up a share, all that.

Thanks, all. Note that I will NOT be writing an article about this 
because I still think it's all black magic. If something failed, the 
only thing I could do is 'reinstall'.

Whil



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Re: [OT] Madagain and Pete EXPLAINED!

[Michael Madigan]

Not coinidently, Japanese eat a lot of tofu.



--- "Helio W." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> A devil food is turning our kids into homosexuals
>  --
> Jim Rutz
> Posted: December 12, 2006
> 1:00 a.m. Eastern
> 
>   There's a slow poison out there that's
> severely damaging our children
> and threatening to tear apart our culture. The
> ironic part is, it's a
> "health food," one of our most popular.
> 
> Now, I'm a health-food guy, a fanatic who seldom
> allows anything into his
> kitchen unless it's organic. I state my bias here
> just so you'll know I'm
> not anti-health food.
> 
> The dangerous food I'm speaking of is soy. Soybean
> products are feminizing,
> and they're all over the place. You can hardly
> escape them anymore.
> 
> http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=53327
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Re: [OT] Toshi, aka Helio explained

[Helio W.]

And of course, Madagain has no girl friends.

On 12/12/06, Helio W. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Also, Madagain is a lier. Just pay attention, he always try to mention
> that he has a girl friend there, another girl friend there, etc, never tells
> he has a male friend, it's obvious he's affraid somebody will think he's
> homosexual just because he has male friends.
>
> On 12/12/06, Justin Darnell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > What would you possibly be searching for to find this?
> >
> > Justin
> >
> > On 12/12/06, Michael Madigan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > > http://www.geocities.co.jp/Berkeley/3508/japanesehistory.html
> > >
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> > >
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Re: [OT] Toshi, aka Helio explained

[Helio W.]

Also, Madagain is a lier. Just pay attention, he always try to mention that
he has a girl friend there, another girl friend there, etc, never tells he
has a male friend, it's obvious he's affraid somebody will think he's
homosexual just because he has male friends.

On 12/12/06, Justin Darnell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> What would you possibly be searching for to find this?
>
> Justin
>
> On 12/12/06, Michael Madigan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > http://www.geocities.co.jp/Berkeley/3508/japanesehistory.html
> >
> > Christmas gifts for Real Americans
> > Free Shipping for orders over $50
> > http://www.cafepress.com/rightwingmike
> >
> >
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Re: [OT] Toshi, aka Helio explained

[Helio W.]

Michael is homophobic. He hates everything because he hasn't the courage to
get out of the closet and lives in frustration.



Is Homophobia Associated With Homosexual Arousal?

Henry E. Adams, Lester W. Wright, Jr., and Bethany A. Lohr
University of Georgia

The authors investigated the role of homosexual arousal in exclusively
heterosexual men who ad-
mitted negative affect toward homosexual individuals. Participants consisted
of a group of homo-
phobic men (n = 35) and a group of nonhomophobic men (n = 29); they were
assigned to groups
on the basis of their scores on the Index of Homophobia (W. W. Hudson & W.
A. Ricketts, 1980).
The men were exposed to sexually explicit erotic stimuli consisting of
heterosexual, male homosex-
ual, and lesbian videotapes, and changes in penile circumference were
monitored. They also com-
pleted an Aggression Questionnaire (A. H. Buss & M. Perry, 1992 ). Both
groups exhibited increases
in penile circumference to the heterosexual and female homosexual videos.
Only the homophobic
men showed an increase in penile erection to male homosexual stimuli. The
groups did not differ in
aggression. Homophobia is apparently associated with homosexual arousal that
the homophobic
individual is either unaware of or denies.

*http://tinyurl.com/y5zhno
*

On 12/12/06, Justin Darnell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> What would you possibly be searching for to find this?
>
> Justin
>
> On 12/12/06, Michael Madigan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > http://www.geocities.co.jp/Berkeley/3508/japanesehistory.html
> >
> > Christmas gifts for Real Americans
> > Free Shipping for orders over $50
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> >
> >
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Re: [OT] Madagain and Pete EXPLAINED!

[Helio W.]

A devil food is turning our kids into homosexuals
 --
Jim Rutz
Posted: December 12, 2006
1:00 a.m. Eastern

  There's a slow poison out there that's severely damaging our children
and threatening to tear apart our culture. The ironic part is, it's a
"health food," one of our most popular.

Now, I'm a health-food guy, a fanatic who seldom allows anything into his
kitchen unless it's organic. I state my bias here just so you'll know I'm
not anti-health food.

The dangerous food I'm speaking of is soy. Soybean products are feminizing,
and they're all over the place. You can hardly escape them anymore.

http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=53327


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Re: [NF] What is the cost for MySQL anyway?

[Justin Darnell]

Stephen,

PostgreSQL is actually very common.  I have it on all of my CPanel
enabled accounts through various hosts.  I'm not sure about people
JUST hosting databases, but as a general back end available to run
your websites, its almost as pervasive as MySQL in my experience.

Justin

On 12/12/06, Stephen the Cook <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Eugene Vital <> wrote:
>
> >> I was not aware of the PostgreSQL situation and would look to that as
> >> a starting point.  Unfortunately you don't find that listed as a
> >> database for Hosted Servers frequently.
> >
> > Actually if you Google it you find quite a few.
>
> What?  http://tinyurl.com/ynctz5  shows 0 hosts.
>
> So what are you goggling with?
>
> Found http://www.eapps.com/Docs/VPSAdvancedPrices.jsp for 50 -> 90 per month
> for 2.5 gig to 4 gig.
>
> I am not finding many to pick from.
>
> >
> > I haven't tried the Windows version yet but hey - I have a few spare
> > minutes lets see how hard it can be.
> >
> >> You do find MySQL as well as M$ SQL.
> >>
> >
> > quantity <> quality.
> >
> > I wonder how may of those places are subsidized my M$FT
>
> Few if any.  I know of two people who started their own server farms back in
> the mid 90's and never got money from M$ in all those years.
>
> So your saying that MySQL quality sucks because it's everywhere?
>
>
> Stephen Russell
> DBA / .Net Developer
>
> Memphis TN 38115
> 901.246-0159
>
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> missiles and misguided men." Dr. Martin Luther King Jr.
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[OT] RE: Keeping American Programmers at Work

[Virgil Bierschwale]

 What can I say..
You have to have been there to understand it...

Here's to hoping it never happens to you and I'd drink to it, but the
cupboard is bare, for now 


Virgil Bierschwale
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Virgil Bierschwale <> wrote:
> I have added a new link titled "Give Americans Jobs" on the 
> bierschwale solutions site.
> If you work in the IT industry and you agree with these words, then 
> please help me to spread the word to developers all across the nation, 
> no matter what language they develop in as I believe we will all 
> benefit from efforts such as this and I believe that we all need to do 
> whatever is necessary to fill the positions that the HR Depts
> and Politicans say can't be filled by our fellow countrymen. 

I had to laugh at your FU line  "If not, then I hope it is your job that is
outsourced next so that you will personally understand what you are doing to
your fellow American's."



Stephen Russell
DBA / .Net Developer

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901.246-0159

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RE: Keeping American Programmers at Work

[Stephen the Cook]

Virgil Bierschwale <> wrote:
> I have added a new link titled "Give Americans Jobs" on the
> bierschwale solutions site. 
> If you work in the IT industry and you agree with these words, then
> please help me to spread the word to developers all across the
> nation, no matter what language they develop in as I believe we will
> all benefit from efforts such as this and I believe that we all need
> to do whatever is necessary to fill the positions that the HR Depts
> and Politicans say can't be filled by our fellow countrymen. 

I had to laugh at your FU line  "If not, then I hope it is your job that is
outsourced next so that you will personally understand what you are doing to
your fellow American's."



Stephen Russell
DBA / .Net Developer

Memphis TN 38115
901.246-0159

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RE: [NF] What is the cost for MySQL anyway?

[Stephen the Cook]

Eugene Vital <> wrote:

>> I was not aware of the PostgreSQL situation and would look to that as
>> a starting point.  Unfortunately you don't find that listed as a
>> database for Hosted Servers frequently.
> 
> Actually if you Google it you find quite a few.

What?  http://tinyurl.com/ynctz5  shows 0 hosts.  

So what are you goggling with?  

Found http://www.eapps.com/Docs/VPSAdvancedPrices.jsp for 50 -> 90 per month
for 2.5 gig to 4 gig.

I am not finding many to pick from.  

> 
> I haven't tried the Windows version yet but hey - I have a few spare
> minutes lets see how hard it can be. 
> 
>> You do find MySQL as well as M$ SQL.
>> 
> 
> quantity <> quality.
> 
> I wonder how may of those places are subsidized my M$FT

Few if any.  I know of two people who started their own server farms back in
the mid 90's and never got money from M$ in all those years.  

So your saying that MySQL quality sucks because it's everywhere?  


Stephen Russell
DBA / .Net Developer

Memphis TN 38115
901.246-0159

"Our scientific power has outrun our spiritual power. We have guided
missiles and misguided men." Dr. Martin Luther King Jr.

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Re: [NF] What is the cost for MySQL anyway?

[Eugene Vital]

Eugene Vital wrote:
> Stephen the Cook wrote:
>   
>> Ed Leafe <> wrote:
>>   
>> 
>>> On Dec 11, 2006, at 12:48 PM, John Weller wrote:
>>>
>>> 
>>>   
 What is the cost?  I am looking at a database for a client with
 probably 5 or 6 users.  They are unlikely to need support above what
 I can provide. I've gone for MySQL because of the wealth of info
 available in Whil's book and this list - should I be looking at M$
 SQL Server or PostGreSQL?
   
 
>>> If they are going to be using the database server in-house and not
>>> creating distributable apps, or otherwise distributing the MySQL
>>> code, then there is no cost.  
>>>
>>> PostgreSQL (the correct spelling) is 100% zero-cost in all cases. MS
>>> SQL is 100% high-code in all cases. MySQL is dual-licensed, under
>>> either the GPL or a commercial license. If your usage complies with
>>> the GPL license, there is no cost for MySQL. If you want to release a
>>> non-GPL app, the commercial license can cost a few hundred dollars.
>>> I'm not sure on the cost, as I haven't had a need to purchase any
>>> licenses. 
>>> 
>>>   
>> I'll go out on a limb and guess that high-code should have been high-cost in
>> all cases.  If so that is an incorrect statement.  SQL Express is Free,  and
>> has some limitations like it's fore runner MSDE.The size of the database
>> did double to 4 gig for free.
>>
>> There is also a "Free" version for Oracle as well as DB2.  
>>
>> I was not aware of the PostgreSQL situation and would look to that as a
>> starting point.  Unfortunately you don't find that listed as a database for
>> Hosted Servers frequently.  
>> 
>
> Actually if you Google it you find quite a few.
>
> I am working on 2 separate projects at the moment each of which uses
> PostgreSQL server running on Linux. If you haven't checked it out in a
> while you owe it to yourself
> to do it. They just released 8.2 and the PGAdminIII utility has really
> come a long way.
>
> I haven't tried the Windows version yet but hey - I have a few spare
> minutes lets see how hard it can be.
>
>   
7:57pm download started.
8:02pm download finished.
8:03pm extracted zipped files.
8:04pm read install manual ( actually read it before but to be fair...).
8:06pm started install from MSI.
8:10pm setup finished.
8:12pm update pg_hba.conf to allow trusted login
8:13pm logged in with pgAdminIII and created new user
8:13pm update pg_hba.conf to force MD5 login
8:13pm logged with pgAdminIII  as new user and server is up and running.

16 minutes - not bad

BTW: for those interested they do have a silent install for Windows
http://pginstaller.projects.postgresql.org/silent.html




>> You do find MySQL as well as M$ SQL.  
>>   
>> 
>
> quantity <> quality.
>
> I wonder how may of those places are subsidized my M$FT
>
>
>   
>> Stephen Russell
>> DBA / .Net Developer
>>
>> Memphis TN 38115
>> 901.246-0159
>>
>> "Our scientific power has outrun our spiritual power. We have guided
>> missiles and misguided men." Dr. Martin Luther King Jr.
>>
>> http://spaces.msn.com/members/srussell/
>>
>>   
>> 



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Re: [NF] What is the cost for MySQL anyway?

[Eugene Vital]

Stephen the Cook wrote:
> Ed Leafe <> wrote:
>   
>> On Dec 11, 2006, at 12:48 PM, John Weller wrote:
>>
>> 
>>> What is the cost?  I am looking at a database for a client with
>>> probably 5 or 6 users.  They are unlikely to need support above what
>>> I can provide. I've gone for MySQL because of the wealth of info
>>> available in Whil's book and this list - should I be looking at M$
>>> SQL Server or PostGreSQL?
>>>   
>>  If they are going to be using the database server in-house and not
>> creating distributable apps, or otherwise distributing the MySQL
>> code, then there is no cost.  
>>
>>  PostgreSQL (the correct spelling) is 100% zero-cost in all cases. MS
>> SQL is 100% high-code in all cases. MySQL is dual-licensed, under
>> either the GPL or a commercial license. If your usage complies with
>> the GPL license, there is no cost for MySQL. If you want to release a
>> non-GPL app, the commercial license can cost a few hundred dollars.
>> I'm not sure on the cost, as I haven't had a need to purchase any
>> licenses. 
>> 
>
> I'll go out on a limb and guess that high-code should have been high-cost in
> all cases.  If so that is an incorrect statement.  SQL Express is Free,  and
> has some limitations like it's fore runner MSDE.The size of the database
> did double to 4 gig for free.
>
> There is also a "Free" version for Oracle as well as DB2.  
>
> I was not aware of the PostgreSQL situation and would look to that as a
> starting point.  Unfortunately you don't find that listed as a database for
> Hosted Servers frequently.  

Actually if you Google it you find quite a few.

I am working on 2 separate projects at the moment each of which uses
PostgreSQL server running on Linux. If you haven't checked it out in a
while you owe it to yourself
to do it. They just released 8.2 and the PGAdminIII utility has really
come a long way.

I haven't tried the Windows version yet but hey - I have a few spare
minutes lets see how hard it can be.

> You do find MySQL as well as M$ SQL.  
>   

quantity <> quality.

I wonder how may of those places are subsidized my M$FT


> Stephen Russell
> DBA / .Net Developer
>
> Memphis TN 38115
> 901.246-0159
>
> "Our scientific power has outrun our spiritual power. We have guided
> missiles and misguided men." Dr. Martin Luther King Jr.
>
> http://spaces.msn.com/members/srussell/
>
>   



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Re: [OT] Toshi, aka Helio explained

[Michael Madigan]

Japanese homosexuals.


--- Justin Darnell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> What would you possibly be searching for to find
> this?
> 
> Justin
> 
> On 12/12/06, Michael Madigan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> >
> >
>
http://www.geocities.co.jp/Berkeley/3508/japanesehistory.html
> >
> > Christmas gifts for Real Americans
> > Free Shipping for orders over $50
> > http://www.cafepress.com/rightwingmike
> >
> >
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Re: [OT] Toshi, aka Helio explained

[Justin Darnell]

What would you possibly be searching for to find this?

Justin

On 12/12/06, Michael Madigan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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>
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RE: [NF] Getting XP workstation to access the network/file server

[John Gunvaldson]

... Read up on joining a domain in XP  


It's really a few second job and a reboot (of course). Before you nuke
the XP, go ahead and add it to the "MyBichinDomain" and check it out -
it's just a few steps outlined below...

Main thing, make sure you know Admin name and password on
"MyBichinDomain" as you will need to use it.

Remember, in your case - forget about all the Active Directory stuff -
you are probably just a simple NT/WIN2K Microsoft Domain - and the
following is totally germane...

Regards

John C. Gunvaldson
San Diego, CA

*-- Instructions --*

Windows XP

To change the computer name, to join a domain, or to add a computer
description for a Windows XP-based computer, use the Computer Name tab
in the System Properties dialog box. To locate this tab, use one of the
following methods: 

* Click Start, right-click My Computer, and then click Properties. 
* Click Start, click Run, type sysdm.cpl, and then click OK. 
* Click Start, click Control Panel, double-click Performance and
Maintenance, and then click System. 

Change the computer name and join a domain or a workgroup

To change a computer name and to join a domain or a workgroup, follow
these steps: 1. Click the Computer Name tab, and then click Change. 

2. Type the new computer name in the Computer name dialog box. 
3. Type the new domain or workgroup in either the Domain dialog box or
the Workgroup dialog box.  
4. Click More to change the primary Domain Name System (DNS) suffix.

Note Windows XP Home Edition is not designed to join domains. Windows XP
Home Edition is only designed to join workgroups. Therefore, use Windows
XP Professional to join domains.  

5. Click OK three times, and then restart the computer.  


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[OT] Toshi, aka Helio explained

[Michael Madigan]

http://www.geocities.co.jp/Berkeley/3508/japanesehistory.html

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Re: [NF] Getting XP workstation to access the network/file server

[Whil Hentzen (Pro*)]

John Gunvaldson wrote:
> If "Client for Microsoft Networks" was not on display already (just
> unchecked) - that would be strange. Non the less, if you also hit the
> install - install a client - add client - and "Client for Microsoft
> Networks" was not an option already in the display?

I misunderstood. The item was there, just unchecked.

I've selected it...

Ted thinks the trouble is domain related; I checked Computer properties 
and this machine is a member of an artificial workgroup that doesn't 
have any other computers on it, thus the lack of nodes under the 
"MyBichinDomain" node in My Computer.

Read up on joining a domain in XP and they have Active Directory 
requirements up the yazoo. I don't even understand the SHORT words in 
their explanation. Now I remember why I never upgraded from W2K to XP in 
the first place.

The learning curve for AD just for a five computer network was onerous, 
but we all know what MSFT thinks of SMBs.

I think I'm going to go back and install W2K on this box. Heh.

Thanks for the effort, sorry it didn't work out.

Whil



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RE: [OT] Madagain and Pete EXPLAINED!

[Virgil Bierschwale]

I wouldn’t say that, but I am going to stick up for good people, no matter
when or where it is..
Allways have and allways will. 


Virgil Bierschwale
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Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2006 4:43 PM
To: ProFox Email List
Subject: RE: [OT] Madagain and Pete EXPLAINED!

 
=> Subject: RE: [OT] Madagain and Pete EXPLAINED!
=>
=> That's not allways true.
=> Some people are bad from the start.
=> Some will allways be good.
=>
=> The one's I like are the ones that know right from wrong. 
=>
=>
=> Virgil Bierschwale

Virgil, we are never going to agree on anything, right?

B+
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RE: [OT] Madagain and Pete EXPLAINED!

[Hal Kaplan]

 
=> Subject: RE: [OT] Madagain and Pete EXPLAINED!
=> 
=> That's not allways true.
=> Some people are bad from the start.
=> Some will allways be good.
=> 
=> The one's I like are the ones that know right from wrong. 
=> 
=> 
=> Virgil Bierschwale

Virgil, we are never going to agree on anything, right?

B+
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RE: [OT] Madagain and Pete EXPLAINED!

[Virgil Bierschwale]

That’s not allways true.
Some people are bad from the start.
Some will allways be good.

The one's I like are the ones that know right from wrong. 


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Today's bad man is yesterday's good man who's been found out.

B+
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[NF] Patch Tuesday for December

[Ted Roche]

The SANS Internet Storm Center publishes "Microsoft Black Tuesday -
December 2006 overview" -- looks pretty grim. Seven patches focused on
the OS: Internet Explorer, deeply embedded in the Operating System,
and still generating monthly flaws, Outlook Express, Microsoft's
bundled email client, Windows Media Player, Microsoft's bundled
application as well. Other flaws include crss, SNMP, RIS, and one in
Visual Studio 2005. All Windows users should review and patch asap.

http://isc.sans.org/diary.php?storyid=1928
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Re: [OT] Iran students heckle Ahmadinejad

[Helio W.]

Hal,

That would not happen if any democratic government was in place. And IIRC
the Shah was opposed by various sectors of the iranian society. The fact
that he was thrown out by even worse medieval nuts doesn't turn him in a
exemplary leader/politician. Dictators are the same everywhere, just corrupt
guys who get to "own" a country for their own benefit.


On 12/12/06, Hal Kaplan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> =>Iran students heckle Ahmadinejad
> =>Dec 11 8:03 AM US/Eastern
> =>
> =>Iranian
> =>students =>22&sid=breitbart.com>have
> =>disrupted a speech by President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad at a
> =>prestigious Tehran university, setting fire to his picture
> =>and heckling him.
> =>
>
> Helio, you know this would not have happened if the Shah was still in
> power.  How do they think the university got there in the first place?
>
> Why do people always think they know how to run other people's affairs
> better than the other people do?  Parents ... in-laws ... governments.
>
> B+
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>
>
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Re: [NF] Getting XP workstation to access the network/file server

[John Gunvaldson]

If "Client for Microsoft Networks" was not on display already (just
unchecked) - that would be strange. Non the less, if you also hit the
install - install a client - add client - and "Client for Microsoft
Networks" was not an option already in the display?
 
Then yes, you would need a disk to load it from as you have surmised...
 
However, you may be able to jump start process by using "Control Panel"
"Add or Remove Programs" and select "Add/Remove Windows Components" and
select all of the networking options you see - and this process knows
how to "READ" the "Installation CD" by itself..
 
Then return to the instructions on adding in the "Client for Microsoft
Networks"
 
I suspect, it (the option to select) would be there then?
 
Cheers,
 
 
 
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RE: [OT] Madagain and Pete EXPLAINED!

[Hal Kaplan]

Today's bad man is yesterday's good man who's been found out.

B+
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[OT] Merry Christmas

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RE: [OT] Madagain and Pete EXPLAINED!

[Michael Madigan]

Your list only has 2 criminals, my list has 9



--- Kristyne McDaniel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Madigan,
> 
> > Term limits would have removed Kennedy, Kerry,
> Pelosi,
> > Chris Dodd, Charlie Rangel, John Dingle, Carl
> Levin,
> > Barbara Boxer, Robert Byrd, etc.
> > 
> > Term limits are a good thing
> 
> Duncan Hunter, Trent Lott, John Boehner, Dennis
> Hastert, Duke Cunningham,
> Mark Foley, Tom Delay, etc.
> 
> Your point was?
> 
> Kristyne McDaniel
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RE: LDAP Authentication from VFP

[Manjit Basra]

Thanks again Ted. I will keep on looking.


Manjit Basra
Information Systems Manager
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Fax: (973) 378-9464


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On 12/12/06, Manjit Basra <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Thanks Ted. Only thing I found was to how to read information from Active
> Directory. Another word who are the users and groups etc.? I already know
> how to do that. What I have trouble with is how to authenticate a user in
> Active Directory?
>

Sorry, Manjit, I haven't done ADSI work myself, other than invoking
some scripts inside the Exchange beast. Check the FoxPro wiki and Rick
Strahl's site?

http://fox.wikis.com/wc.dll?Wiki~AccessControlLists~WIN_COM_API

Looks a bit promising.

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RE: [OT] Madagain and Pete EXPLAINED!

[Virgil Bierschwale]

Talking about their replacements...
You don't turn around something that big overnight, and you can't fire
everybody all at once...

BUT any good manager can turn it around if they're giving the autonomy to do
their job irregardless of peoples senority or union affliation. 


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Virgil,

> You have to give them time to do their job..

They've had all the time we can stand, and more.

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RE: [OT] Madagain and Pete EXPLAINED!

[Kristyne McDaniel]

Virgil,

> You have to give them time to do their job..

They've had all the time we can stand, and more.

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RE: [OT] Madagain and Pete EXPLAINED!

[Kristyne McDaniel]

Madigan,

> Term limits would have removed Kennedy, Kerry, Pelosi,
> Chris Dodd, Charlie Rangel, John Dingle, Carl Levin,
> Barbara Boxer, Robert Byrd, etc.
> 
> Term limits are a good thing

Duncan Hunter, Trent Lott, John Boehner, Dennis Hastert, Duke Cunningham,
Mark Foley, Tom Delay, etc.

Your point was?

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RE: [OT] Madagain and Pete EXPLAINED!

[Virgil Bierschwale]

Possibly, but as the good ones came in, they would be forced out because of
this law. 


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How many good people would you force out?  Most are scum.


--- Ed Leafe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Dec 12, 2006, at 3:13 PM, Stephen the Cook wrote:
> 
> > I guess in todays environment a limit to their
> time in office would
> > work
> > then?
> 
>   ...except that you force out the good people along with the bad. You

> also ensure that people in their last term have nothing to lose, so 
> they might as well stuff their pockets as much as possible.
> 
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Re: [OT] Madagain and Pete EXPLAINED!

[Michael Madigan]

How many good people would you force out?  Most are
scum.


--- Ed Leafe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Dec 12, 2006, at 3:13 PM, Stephen the Cook wrote:
> 
> > I guess in todays environment a limit to their
> time in office would  
> > work
> > then?
> 
>   ...except that you force out the good people along
> with the bad. You  
> also ensure that people in their last term have
> nothing to lose, so  
> they might as well stuff their pockets as much as
> possible.
> 
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Re: [OT] Madagain and Pete EXPLAINED!

[Ed Leafe]

On Dec 12, 2006, at 3:13 PM, Stephen the Cook wrote:

> I guess in todays environment a limit to their time in office would  
> work
> then?

...except that you force out the good people along with the bad. You  
also ensure that people in their last term have nothing to lose, so  
they might as well stuff their pockets as much as possible.

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Re: LDAP Authentication from VFP

[Ted Roche]

On 12/12/06, Manjit Basra <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Thanks Ted. Only thing I found was to how to read information from Active
> Directory. Another word who are the users and groups etc.? I already know
> how to do that. What I have trouble with is how to authenticate a user in
> Active Directory?
>

Sorry, Manjit, I haven't done ADSI work myself, other than invoking
some scripts inside the Exchange beast. Check the FoxPro wiki and Rick
Strahl's site?

http://fox.wikis.com/wc.dll?Wiki~AccessControlLists~WIN_COM_API

Looks a bit promising.

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RE: [OT] Madagain and Pete EXPLAINED!

[Hal Kaplan]

=> Subject: RE: [OT] Madagain and Pete EXPLAINED!
=> 
=> 
=> Out with the old and in with the new.  
=> 
=> I want to take politics out of a lifelong job.  Instead I 
=> want to allow people who want to serve the ability to do so. 
=>  Instead it's a lifetime job
=> in our current system.   
=> 
=> Stephen Russell
=>

No problem, Stephen.  Campaign against the incumbent and convince the 
electorate to NOT vote for him.  It happens every November; someone gets the 
boot.

Term limits are the epitome of complacency:  "Oh that guys a jerk, but we'll 
just wait for the term limit to get him out.  No need to become active."

Assuming arguendo that you are correct, Stephen, why two terms?  Seems kind of 
arbitrary, no?  Why not one term, or three, or seven?  Whatever logic you can 
apply to any number is true for every number so no number is better than any 
other.

Term limits are for lazy people who don't want to get involved; who want 
someone else to solve their problems ... in other words, selfish parasites.  
Yes, that's it!  

Repeat after me, Stephen:  I want term limits.  I am a selfish parasite.  
Selfish.  Selfish.  Selfish.

B+
HALinNY


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RE: LDAP Authentication from VFP

[Manjit Basra]

Thanks Ted. Only thing I found was to how to read information from Active
Directory. Another word who are the users and groups etc.? I already know
how to do that. What I have trouble with is how to authenticate a user in
Active Directory?

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/q192766/


Manjit Basra


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On 12/12/06, Manjit Basra <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Has anyone tried to authenticate a user to Active Directory through VFP. I
> found the following dot-net code that I would like to convert:
>

Mike Stewart, formerly of Microsoft, wrote a white paper on Active
Directory integration a long, long time ago. Google "Visual FoxPro"
"Active Directory" and I'll bet you'll turn up a copy.

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RE: [OT] Madagain and Pete EXPLAINED!

[Michael Madigan]

Term limits would have removed Kennedy, Kerry, Pelosi,
Chris Dodd, Charlie Rangel, John Dingle, Carl Levin,
Barbara Boxer, Robert Byrd, etc.

Term limits are a good thing





--- Stephen the Cook <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

> Ed Leafe <> wrote:
> > On Dec 12, 2006, at 1:55 PM, Stephen the Cook
> wrote:
> > 
> >> Out with the old and in with the new.
> >> 
> >> I want to take politics out of a lifelong job. 
> Instead I want to
> >> allow people who want to serve the ability to do
> so.  Instead it's a
> >> lifetime job in our current system.
> > 
> > Imagine if it were a job where, if you performed
> well, you kept it,
> > but if you didn't, you didn't get to keep it. 
> > 
> > Term limits are the band-aid on the real wound to
> our government:
> > campaign financing. If politicians didn't have to
> spend every minute
> > after they get elected fund-raising to get
> re-elected, we might
> > actually get something done. And removing the flow
> of money from
> > lobbyists will at least make it *possible* for a
> politician to be
> > somewhat honest.
> > 
> > Of course, the people who would need to make
> these changes are the
> > very scum we need to remove, and they will do
> everything they can to
> > maintain the current system that favors them so
> strongly.  
> 
> I guess in todays environment a limit to their time
> in office would work
> then?
> 
> Stephen Russell
> DBA / .Net Developer
> 
> Memphis TN 38115
> 901.246-0159
> 
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> power. We have guided
> missiles and misguided men." Dr. Martin Luther King
> Jr.
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RE: [OT] Madagain and Pete EXPLAINED!

[Virgil Bierschwale]

You have to give them time to do their job..
Turning around something like congress is like turning around an aircraft
harbor on a small river stream..

ACCOUNTABILITY is the word.
By making their record open to the voters and by getting voters to
understand that their one vote can make a difference...

An appointed official takes their lead from the person that appoints them.
They will continue to do so if their appointed person is removed from
office.
They will merely go with the newly elected persons beliefs... 


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Ed Leafe <> wrote:
> On Dec 12, 2006, at 1:55 PM, Stephen the Cook wrote:
> 
>> Out with the old and in with the new.
>> 
>> I want to take politics out of a lifelong job.  Instead I want to 
>> allow people who want to serve the ability to do so.  Instead it's a 
>> lifetime job in our current system.
> 
>   Imagine if it were a job where, if you performed well, you kept it, 
> but if you didn't, you didn't get to keep it.
> 
>   Term limits are the band-aid on the real wound to our government:
> campaign financing. If politicians didn't have to spend every minute 
> after they get elected fund-raising to get re-elected, we might 
> actually get something done. And removing the flow of money from 
> lobbyists will at least make it *possible* for a politician to be
> somewhat honest.
> 
>   Of course, the people who would need to make these changes are the 
> very scum we need to remove, and they will do everything they can to 
> maintain the current system that favors them so strongly.

I guess in todays environment a limit to their time in office would work
then?

Stephen Russell
DBA / .Net Developer

Memphis TN 38115
901.246-0159

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missiles and misguided men." Dr. Martin Luther King Jr.

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RE: [OT] Madagain and Pete EXPLAINED!

[Stephen the Cook]

Ed Leafe <> wrote:
> On Dec 12, 2006, at 1:55 PM, Stephen the Cook wrote:
> 
>> Out with the old and in with the new.
>> 
>> I want to take politics out of a lifelong job.  Instead I want to
>> allow people who want to serve the ability to do so.  Instead it's a
>> lifetime job in our current system.
> 
>   Imagine if it were a job where, if you performed well, you kept it,
> but if you didn't, you didn't get to keep it. 
> 
>   Term limits are the band-aid on the real wound to our government:
> campaign financing. If politicians didn't have to spend every minute
> after they get elected fund-raising to get re-elected, we might
> actually get something done. And removing the flow of money from
> lobbyists will at least make it *possible* for a politician to be
> somewhat honest.
> 
>   Of course, the people who would need to make these changes are the
> very scum we need to remove, and they will do everything they can to
> maintain the current system that favors them so strongly.  

I guess in todays environment a limit to their time in office would work
then?

Stephen Russell
DBA / .Net Developer

Memphis TN 38115
901.246-0159

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missiles and misguided men." Dr. Martin Luther King Jr.

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RE: [OT] Burying your head in the sand

[Virgil Bierschwale]

Isnt that what happened in ww ii ??
Before my time, so I'm not positive, but it seems to me that’s what history
said happened..

Oh that’s right, its ok to rewrite history now isnt it ?? 


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If Israel doesn't take them out now, Israel will be taken out later.

And the rest of the world is relatively silent.

You have a man who says the Holocaust never happened, and everyone is just
sitting around twiddling their thumbs.





--- Virgil Bierschwale <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> It don't get no simpler then what the head of iran was quoted on yahoo 
> just now.
> -
> 
> "Just as the Soviet Union was wiped out and today does not exist, so 
> will the Zionist regime soon be wiped out," he added.
> 
> His words received warm applause from delegates at the Holocaust 
> conference, who included ultra-Orthodox anti-Israel Jews and European 
> and American writers who argue the Holocaust was either fabricated or 
> exaggerated.
> 
> The full link is at
>
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20061212/wl_nm/iran_holocaust_dc
> -
> 
> Last time I looked, the soviet union was still alive and poisoning 
> people that spoke out against them.
> And we all know for a fact that the holocaust happened..
> 
> Virgil Bierschwale
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> Development and Resume
>  
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Re: [OT] Madagain and Pete EXPLAINED!

[Ed Leafe]

On Dec 12, 2006, at 1:55 PM, Stephen the Cook wrote:

> Out with the old and in with the new.
>
> I want to take politics out of a lifelong job.  Instead I want to  
> allow
> people who want to serve the ability to do so.  Instead it's a  
> lifetime job
> in our current system.

Imagine if it were a job where, if you performed well, you kept it,  
but if you didn't, you didn't get to keep it.

Term limits are the band-aid on the real wound to our government:  
campaign financing. If politicians didn't have to spend every minute  
after they get elected fund-raising to get re-elected, we might  
actually get something done. And removing the flow of money from  
lobbyists will at least make it *possible* for a politician to be  
somewhat honest.

Of course, the people who would need to make these changes are the  
very scum we need to remove, and they will do everything they can to  
maintain the current system that favors them so strongly.

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Re: [OT] Burying your head in the sand

[Michael Madigan]

If Israel doesn't take them out now, Israel will be
taken out later.

And the rest of the world is relatively silent.

You have a man who says the Holocaust never happened,
and everyone is just sitting around twiddling their
thumbs.





--- Virgil Bierschwale <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> It don't get no simpler then what the head of iran
> was quoted on yahoo just
> now.
> -
> 
> "Just as the Soviet Union was wiped out and today
> does not exist, so will
> the Zionist regime soon be wiped out," he added.
> 
> His words received warm applause from delegates at
> the Holocaust conference,
> who included ultra-Orthodox anti-Israel Jews and
> European and American
> writers who argue the Holocaust was either
> fabricated or exaggerated.
> 
> The full link is at
>
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20061212/wl_nm/iran_holocaust_dc
> -
> 
> Last time I looked, the soviet union was still alive
> and poisoning people
> that spoke out against them.
> And we all know for a fact that the holocaust
> happened..
> 
> Virgil Bierschwale
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Re: [NF] Getting XP workstation to access the network/file server

[Whil Hentzen (Pro*)]

John Gunvaldson wrote:
> My .02
> 
>   I believe this is a browsing service issue. Windows, on TCPIP
> only - can only resolve windows boxes (other computers on the network)
> via DNS and/or Host/LM file entries (sometimes hard coded, sometimes
> returned via DHCP)... You need to install "Client for Microsoft
> Networks" to fully play on a Windows Workgroup/LAN domain...
> 
>>From class - I remember "browsing services on a windows domain/LAN is
> not a guaranteed service. Means that you can use it, may even like it -
> but cannot depend on it to always show all computers...

Typical Microsoft, wouldn't you say?

> << nice internet write up on the issue below >> 
> 
> The Client for Microsoft Networks is an essential networking software
> component for the Microsoft Windows family of operating systems. A
> Windows computer must run the Client for Microsoft Networks to remotely
> access files, printers and other shared network resources. 

John,

Ah, this is just what I was looking for sans the note below :(

> 7. For all versions of Windows, select "Client" as the type of component
> from the list in the new window that appears. Click the "Add..." button
> to continue.
 >
> 8. For all versions of Windows, next choose "Microsoft" from the list of
> manufacturers shown on the left of the active window. Then, choose
> "Client for Microsoft Windows" from the list of Network Clients on the
> right side of the window. Click the "OK" button to continue.

The only item that shows up on my list is Client for Netware.

When I click "Have Disk", it points to drive A (of which there isn't 
one) and then when I navigate to the CD in drive D (the original XP 
install disk), it expects me to know the exact name of the file...

I have no idea where on this 650 MB to look. Anyone, anyone?

> 9. Complete the installation by clicking the "OK" button to close the
> window, then proceed to reboot the computer. After the computer has
> restarted, Client for Microsoft Windows will be installed.
> 
> Tips:
> You will probably also need to install the TCP/IP protocol and the "File
> and Printer Sharing for Microsoft Networks" service to fully network a
> Windows computer on a typical LAN.

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Re: [NF] Getting XP workstation to access the network/file server

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On 12/12/06, Whil Hentzen (Pro*) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> When I set up the XP box, it asked me
> for the domain name but when I entered it, XP couldn't find it so I had
> to blow by that dialog.

Well, that's most likely the problem. Machines have to join a domain
as well as users. If the machine wasn't made part of the domain, you
can't see the domain from the machine. I haven't run into the problem
of not being able to add the box during the install, so I'm not sure
what the repair procedure is, but that's what you have to look for.

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[OT] Burying your head in the sand

[Virgil Bierschwale]

It don't get no simpler then what the head of iran was quoted on yahoo just
now.
-

"Just as the Soviet Union was wiped out and today does not exist, so will
the Zionist regime soon be wiped out," he added.

His words received warm applause from delegates at the Holocaust conference,
who included ultra-Orthodox anti-Israel Jews and European and American
writers who argue the Holocaust was either fabricated or exaggerated.

The full link is at
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20061212/wl_nm/iran_holocaust_dc
-

Last time I looked, the soviet union was still alive and poisoning people
that spoke out against them.
And we all know for a fact that the holocaust happened..

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Re: [NF] Getting XP workstation to access the network/file server

[Whil Hentzen (Pro*)]

john harvey wrote:
> If you're seeing that, you should be able to get out to the internet or
> wherever else, unless you are being blocked.

I can get out onto the Internet.

I just can't see shares on my file server.

> John
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
> Of Whil Hentzen (Pro*)
> Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2006 11:23 AM
> To: profox@leafe.com
> Subject: Re: [NF] Getting XP workstation to access the network/file server
> 
>> If you can ping and browse then your networking is started.
>>
>> Can you open the Explorer, rt click on My computer and browse your
> network?
>> Are the two machines in the same namespace "workgroup" or is one ia a
>> domain?
> 
> I open Explorer, click on "My Computer", select Tools | Map Network 
> Drive, click Browse... and the Browse for Folder dialog displays.
> 
> The tree looks like this:
> 
> My Network Places
>Entire Network
>  Microsoft Windows Network
>MyBichinDomain
> 
> where "MyBichinDomain" is the name of the domain on the NT4 server.
> 
> But drilling into MyBichinDomain doesn't display any nodes underneath it.
> 
> My W2K box is on MyBichinDomain. When I set up the XP box, it asked me 
> for the domain name but when I entered it, XP couldn't find it so I had 
> to blow by that dialog. (Can't find where to try to join it now, 
> although if it's showing up under My Network Places, it seems that XP 
> 'knows' about it...)
> 
> Whil
> 
> 
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RE: [OT] Madagain and Pete EXPLAINED!

[Stephen the Cook]

Hal Kaplan <> wrote:
> => Subject: RE: [OT] Madagain and Pete EXPLAINED!
> =>
> => I disagree.
> =>
> => I would love to see a two term maximum for all elected
> => officials.  They get in and maybe they can get reelected. =>
> => Stephen Russell
> 
> Term limits should not be necessary if the electorate is on its toes
> and fulfills its responsibility to the republic.  The imposition of
> term limits is a tacit statement that the system does not work.  Term
> limits could have been very easily included in The Constitution but
> they were not.  With term limits you are creating a lame duck almost
> on a regular basis.  Since there is no incentive to win a third term,
> the incumbent is free to stretch the limits of propriety and legality
> without having to worry about another election.   
> 
> Repeat after me:  Term Limits Bad.  Term Limits Bad.  Term Limits
> Bad.  Term Limits Bad. 

Out with the old and in with the new.  

I want to take politics out of a lifelong job.  Instead I want to allow
people who want to serve the ability to do so.  Instead it's a lifetime job
in our current system.   

Stephen Russell
DBA / .Net Developer

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Re: Right click between column headers

[Grigore Dolghin]

Like a vertical line with two arrows left and right. (The "resizable" 
pointer)

- Original Message - 
From: "Hal Kaplan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2006 5:04 PM
Subject: RE: Right click between column headers


=> Subject: Right click between column headers
=>
=> Did you know that right clicking between grid columns'
=> headers causes a LockColumn on the left column?
=>

No.  What does the mouse pointer look like when this happens?

B+
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RE: [NF] Getting XP workstation to access the network/file server

[Stephen the Cook]

Whil Hentzen (Pro*) <> wrote:

> I open Explorer, click on "My Computer", select Tools | Map Network
> Drive, click Browse... and the Browse for Folder dialog displays. 
> 
> The tree looks like this:
> 
> My Network Places
>Entire Network
>  Microsoft Windows Network
>MyBichinDomain
> 
> where "MyBichinDomain" is the name of the domain on the NT4 server.
> 
> But drilling into MyBichinDomain doesn't display any nodes underneath
> it. 
> 
> My W2K box is on MyBichinDomain. When I set up the XP box, it asked
> me for the domain name but when I entered it, XP couldn't find it so
> I had to blow by that dialog. (Can't find where to try to join it
> now, although if it's showing up under My Network Places, it seems
> that XP 'knows' about it...)

Are there any shared folder on the server you want to map?

Can you just put in the \\serverIP\e$  as the server path for a mapping?
You will need to have credentials for the server to log you in.  

Stephen Russell
DBA / .Net Developer

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Re: [OT] Michael

[Michael Madigan]

cafepress.com is the vendor/fulfilment house

www.cafepress.com/rightwingmike  is the website

Christmas gifts for Real Americans
Free Shipping for orders over $50
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RE: LDAP Authentication from VFP

[Stephen the Cook]

Manjit Basra <> wrote:
> I sorry, I should have explained what I am trying to do. I use
> extensive VFP COM objects in my Web App. I have about 2500 users, who
> will need to access the system once a year. All of these users are
> already in LDAP. I don't need to keep them in my system. The app
> needs to know if he/she belongs to a specific group for security
> purpose. 
> 
> Manjit Basra
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> Behalf Of Hal Kaplan 
> Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2006 12:50 PM
> To: ProFox Email List
> Subject: RE: LDAP Authentication from VFP
> 
> => Subject: RE: LDAP Authentication from VFP => => Hi everyone, =>
> => Has anyone tried to authenticate a user to Active Directory
> => through VFP. I found the following dot-net code that I would
> => like to convert: => => => 1)   Dim adPath as String =
> "LDAP://wssumits" =>
> => 2)   Dim adAuth as LdapAuthentication = new
> => LdapAuthentication(adPath)
> =>
> => 3)   ok = adAuth.IsAuthenticated("wssumits", txtUsername.Text,
> => txtPassword.Text)
> =>
> =>
> => I just don't understand how to convert line #2. Is this a
> => don-net class? Any help would be greatly appreciated. =>
> => Manjit Basra
> =>
> 
> I do not have an answer but I do have a question:
> 
> Why is it necessary to authenticate a user who obviously has
> sufficient credentials to execute the VFP program that is attempting
> to authenticate?  
> What additional information or utility will the authentication
> provide? 
> 
> TIA
> 
> B+
> HALinNY
> 
> 
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RE: [OT] Madagain and Pete EXPLAINED!

[Virgil Bierschwale]

So these people have no human rights.  Which is what I said.  And you said
that unless we do what we are doing in Iraq, these people will lose their
rights.  But they have no rights, so they have nothing to lose.  I am lost,
Virgil.  Which way is it?


Sounds to me like you could care less if they had rights or not..
Not a good thing in my humble opinion, but you're entitled to your beliefs,
just as I am.


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Re: LDAP Authentication from VFP

[Ted Roche]

On 12/12/06, Manjit Basra <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Has anyone tried to authenticate a user to Active Directory through VFP. I
> found the following dot-net code that I would like to convert:
>

Mike Stewart, formerly of Microsoft, wrote a white paper on Active
Directory integration a long, long time ago. Google "Visual FoxPro"
"Active Directory" and I'll bet you'll turn up a copy.

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RE: [OT] Madagain and Pete EXPLAINED!

[Virgil Bierschwale]

Like I said..
We control it..
If we don't like them, impeach them.

It really is that simple..

Most people know their sports stats better then they know their
representatives stats..
Yep, another web project I want to put together if I can survive this
crap...

I'm looking for backers, and a 1 dollar or 20 dollar donation will go a long
way when you're used to living as inexpensively as I am..

BUT I don't need to worry about this happening, because just as people want
to point fingers, they won't make an attempt to fix things...
History has proven that over and over  


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-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
Of Stephen the Cook
Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2006 11:17 AM
To: 'ProFox Email List'
Subject: RE: [OT] Madagain and Pete EXPLAINED!

Virgil Bierschwale <> wrote:
> I'm not going to ask you to embrace my opinion, so you are safe there.
> What does irritate me is that everybody wants a scape goat.
> You and everybody else who votes, including me are responsible for the 
> current state of affairs, not the president or anybody else, because 
> they are doing what we want them to or what they think that
> we want from them.   

I disagree.  We are a republic and our ellected offical is on their own to
act as they see fit.  They could have an agenda that they have kept silent
through their campaign.  It could be they want to get placed on many boards
of directors when they leave.  This would open them up to doing the will of
big business for 2,6, or more years with no respect to the citizens they
represent.  

I would love to see a two term maximum for all elected officials.  They get
in and maybe they can get reelected.  

I'd love to see an audit on what they do with respect to all riders on
bills.  Do you want the world to see that you added a 150 million dollar
roadway to nowhere onto a college tuition aid bill?  

Secondly I'd like to see the president have a line item veto.  When he gets
a bill full of pork related crap he can remove some of the trash and get the
true nature of the bill completed and moved up. 

 


Stephen Russell
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901.246-0159

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missiles and misguided men." Dr. Martin Luther King Jr.

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RE: [OT] A Soldier's Prayer for America in 2008

[Hal Kaplan]

 
=> Subject: RE: [OT] A Soldier's Prayer for America in 2008
=> 
=> On Monday, December 11, 2006 10:31 AM Hal Kaplan wrote:
=> 
=> 
=> Active duty is the only way to go.  If you are going to be 
=> in it, then be in it.  That reserve crap is great as long as 
=> there is no war or similar activity.  The reservists got to 
=> see the down-side of their deal and now a lot of them are pissed.
=> 
=> Why are the reservists (are all of them?) sent to Baghdad 
=> and those who enlisted are in Germany, Japan, Hawaii? 
=> 
=> There was a funny skit on the Daily Show a couple weeks ago 
=> about a guy who joined the military and was sent to the 
=> Mexican border.  He said that there were 2 places to go... 
=> Iraq and not Iraq. He said that if they find a pile of trash 
=> along the side of the road in Iraq they send out a robot to 
=> make sure it was safe.  At the border they could care less 
=> about the trash.  He was living it up and it was funny and true.
=> 
=> David L. Crooks
=> 

There are a lot of differences between the service branches.  When I was in the 
USAF, I had volunteered to go to SEA (Vietnam, Thailand, Laos) to get it out of 
the way.  I did not want the possibility of being shipped there hanging over 
me.  That is when I found out that as a newbie, I was not allowed to go over 
there; it was reserved for senior personnel.  Why?  Except for pilots and 
certain other aircrew members (which I was not), SEA was a vacation.  You were 
hundreds of miles from action.  You cycled the aircraft once a day and while 
they were out bombing and strafing, you were pretty much free to do almost 
anything.

OTOH, the Army sent you over while the shine on your shoes was still drying and 
you had a combat life expectancy of 14 seconds.  Next!

It would not surprise me if this continues today.  This is going to happen in 
almost any large organization with significant momentum.

B+
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RE: [OT] A Soldier's Prayer for America in 2008

[David Crooks]

On Monday, December 11, 2006 10:31 AM Hal Kaplan wrote:


Active duty is the only way to go.  If you are going to be in it, then
be in it.  That reserve crap is great as long as there is no war or
similar activity.  The reservists got to see the down-side of their deal
and now a lot of them are pissed.

Why are the reservists (are all of them?) sent to Baghdad and those who
enlisted are in Germany, Japan, Hawaii? 

There was a funny skit on the Daily Show a couple weeks ago about a guy
who joined the military and was sent to the Mexican border.  He said
that there were 2 places to go... Iraq and not Iraq. He said that if
they find a pile of trash along the side of the road in Iraq they send
out a robot to make sure it was safe.  At the border they could care
less about the trash.  He was living it up and it was funny and true.

David L. Crooks


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RE: LDAP Authentication from VFP

[Manjit Basra]

I sorry, I should have explained what I am trying to do. I use extensive VFP
COM objects in my Web App. I have about 2500 users, who will need to access
the system once a year. All of these users are already in LDAP. I don't need
to keep them in my system. The app needs to know if he/she belongs to a
specific group for security purpose. 

Manjit Basra


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
Of Hal Kaplan
Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2006 12:50 PM
To: ProFox Email List
Subject: RE: LDAP Authentication from VFP

=> Subject: RE: LDAP Authentication from VFP
=> 
=> Hi everyone,
=>  
=> Has anyone tried to authenticate a user to Active Directory 
=> through VFP. I found the following dot-net code that I would 
=> like to convert:
=> 
=>  
=> 1)   Dim adPath as String = "LDAP://wssumits" 
=> 
=> 2)   Dim adAuth as LdapAuthentication = new 
=> LdapAuthentication(adPath)
=> 
=> 3)   ok = adAuth.IsAuthenticated("wssumits", txtUsername.Text,
=> txtPassword.Text)
=> 
=>  
=> I just don't understand how to convert line #2. Is this a 
=> don-net class? Any help would be greatly appreciated. 
=> 
=> Manjit Basra
=> 

I do not have an answer but I do have a question:

Why is it necessary to authenticate a user who obviously has sufficient
credentials to execute the VFP program that is attempting to authenticate?
What additional information or utility will the authentication provide?

TIA  

B+
HALinNY


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RE: [NF] Getting XP workstation to access the network/file server

[John Gunvaldson]

My .02

I believe this is a browsing service issue. Windows, on TCPIP
only - can only resolve windows boxes (other computers on the network)
via DNS and/or Host/LM file entries (sometimes hard coded, sometimes
returned via DHCP)... You need to install "Client for Microsoft
Networks" to fully play on a Windows Workgroup/LAN domain...

>From class - I remember "browsing services on a windows domain/LAN is
not a guaranteed service. Means that you can use it, may even like it -
but cannot depend on it to always show all computers...

<< nice internet write up on the issue below >> 

The Client for Microsoft Networks is an essential networking software
component for the Microsoft Windows family of operating systems. A
Windows computer must run the Client for Microsoft Networks to remotely
access files, printers and other shared network resources. 

1.  Navigate to the Windows Control Panel.

2.  If the computer runs Windows 2000, Windows XP or newer, locate
and right click "My Network Places" in the Start Menu and choose
Properties from the menu that appears. A new window titled "Network
Connections" opens. In this window, open the "Local Area Connection"
item.

3.  If the computer runs any older version of Windows, like Windows
95 or Windows 98, locate and right-click on Network Neighborhood, then
choose "Properties" from the menu that appears. Alternatively, navigate
to Control Panel and open the "Network" item.

4.  If the computer runs Windows 2000, Windows XP or newer, view the
General tab and verify the checkbox next to Client for Microsoft Windows
is unchecked. This confirms the component has not already been
installed. If the network is currently active, you may not see any
checkboxes in the window. In this case, click the "Properties" button
one more time to reach the full General tab.

5. If the computer runs Windows 2000, Windows XP or newer, first click
the checkbox next to Client for Microsoft Windows, then click the
"Install..." button to begin the process of installing this component.

6. If the computer runs any older version of Windows, simply click the
"Add..." to begin the process of installing Client for Microsoft
Windows.

7. For all versions of Windows, select "Client" as the type of component
from the list in the new window that appears. Click the "Add..." button
to continue.

8. For all versions of Windows, next choose "Microsoft" from the list of
manufacturers shown on the left of the active window. Then, choose
"Client for Microsoft Windows" from the list of Network Clients on the
right side of the window. Click the "OK" button to continue.

9. Complete the installation by clicking the "OK" button to close the
window, then proceed to reboot the computer. After the computer has
restarted, Client for Microsoft Windows will be installed.

Tips:
You will probably also need to install the TCP/IP protocol and the "File
and Printer Sharing for Microsoft Networks" service to fully network a
Windows computer on a typical LAN.


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Re: [NF] Getting XP workstation to access the network/file server

[William Sanders / EFG]

Whil -

If Samba is working on the other workstations and the linux server, then
you need to add something in to the XP workstation (a protocol) .
NetBios/NetBuie/MSFT Client for Networks - pick one .

You mentioned in your original post that the workstations were accessing
the linux server via SAMBA .

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RE: LDAP Authentication from VFP

[Hal Kaplan]

=> Subject: RE: LDAP Authentication from VFP
=> 
=> Hi everyone,
=>  
=> Has anyone tried to authenticate a user to Active Directory 
=> through VFP. I found the following dot-net code that I would 
=> like to convert:
=> 
=>  
=> 1)   Dim adPath as String = "LDAP://wssumits" 
=> 
=> 2)   Dim adAuth as LdapAuthentication = new 
=> LdapAuthentication(adPath)
=> 
=> 3)   ok = adAuth.IsAuthenticated("wssumits", txtUsername.Text,
=> txtPassword.Text)
=> 
=>  
=> I just don't understand how to convert line #2. Is this a 
=> don-net class? Any help would be greatly appreciated. 
=> 
=> Manjit Basra
=> 

I do not have an answer but I do have a question:

Why is it necessary to authenticate a user who obviously has sufficient 
credentials to execute the VFP program that is attempting to authenticate?  
What additional information or utility will the authentication provide?

TIA  

B+
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RE: LDAP Authentication from VFP

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Hi everyone,
 
Has anyone tried to authenticate a user to Active Directory through VFP. I
found the following dot-net code that I would like to convert:

 
1)   Dim adPath as String = "LDAP://wssumits" 

2)   Dim adAuth as LdapAuthentication = new LdapAuthentication(adPath)

3)   ok = adAuth.IsAuthenticated("wssumits", txtUsername.Text,
txtPassword.Text)

 
I just don't understand how to convert line #2. Is this a don-net class? Any
help would be greatly appreciated. 

  

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RE: [OT] Madagain and Pete EXPLAINED!

[Hal Kaplan]

=> Subject: RE: [OT] Madagain and Pete EXPLAINED!
=> 
=> I disagree.
=> 
=> I would love to see a two term maximum for all elected 
=> officials.  They get in and maybe they can get reelected.  
=> 
=> Stephen Russell

Term limits should not be necessary if the electorate is on its toes and 
fulfills its responsibility to the republic.  The imposition of term limits is 
a tacit statement that the system does not work.  Term limits could have been 
very easily included in The Constitution but they were not.  With term limits 
you are creating a lame duck almost on a regular basis.  Since there is no 
incentive to win a third term, the incumbent is free to stretch the limits of 
propriety and legality without having to worry about another election.

Repeat after me:  Term Limits Bad.  Term Limits Bad.  Term Limits Bad.  Term 
Limits Bad.  

B+
HALinNY

P.S. Your other ideas are pretty good ... open up the governance process.


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RE: [NF] Getting XP workstation to access the network/file server

[john harvey]

If you're seeing that, you should be able to get out to the internet or
wherever else, unless you are being blocked.

John

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
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Subject: Re: [NF] Getting XP workstation to access the network/file server

> If you can ping and browse then your networking is started.
> 
> Can you open the Explorer, rt click on My computer and browse your
network?
> Are the two machines in the same namespace "workgroup" or is one ia a
> domain?

I open Explorer, click on "My Computer", select Tools | Map Network 
Drive, click Browse... and the Browse for Folder dialog displays.

The tree looks like this:

My Network Places
   Entire Network
 Microsoft Windows Network
   MyBichinDomain

where "MyBichinDomain" is the name of the domain on the NT4 server.

But drilling into MyBichinDomain doesn't display any nodes underneath it.

My W2K box is on MyBichinDomain. When I set up the XP box, it asked me 
for the domain name but when I entered it, XP couldn't find it so I had 
to blow by that dialog. (Can't find where to try to join it now, 
although if it's showing up under My Network Places, it seems that XP 
'knows' about it...)

Whil


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Re: [NF] Getting XP workstation to access the network/file server

[Whil Hentzen (Pro*)]

> If you can ping and browse then your networking is started.
> 
> Can you open the Explorer, rt click on My computer and browse your network?
> Are the two machines in the same namespace "workgroup" or is one ia a
> domain?

I open Explorer, click on "My Computer", select Tools | Map Network 
Drive, click Browse... and the Browse for Folder dialog displays.

The tree looks like this:

My Network Places
   Entire Network
 Microsoft Windows Network
   MyBichinDomain

where "MyBichinDomain" is the name of the domain on the NT4 server.

But drilling into MyBichinDomain doesn't display any nodes underneath it.

My W2K box is on MyBichinDomain. When I set up the XP box, it asked me 
for the domain name but when I entered it, XP couldn't find it so I had 
to blow by that dialog. (Can't find where to try to join it now, 
although if it's showing up under My Network Places, it seems that XP 
'knows' about it...)

Whil


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RE: [OT] Madagain and Pete EXPLAINED!

[Stephen the Cook]

Virgil Bierschwale <> wrote:
> I'm not going to ask you to embrace my opinion, so you are safe there.
> What does irritate me is that everybody wants a scape goat.
> You and everybody else who votes, including me are responsible for
> the current state of affairs, not the president or anybody else,
> because they are doing what we want them to or what they think that
> we want from them.   

I disagree.  We are a republic and our ellected offical is on their own to
act as they see fit.  They could have an agenda that they have kept silent
through their campaign.  It could be they want to get placed on many boards
of directors when they leave.  This would open them up to doing the will of
big business for 2,6, or more years with no respect to the citizens they
represent.  

I would love to see a two term maximum for all elected officials.  They get
in and maybe they can get reelected.  

I'd love to see an audit on what they do with respect to all riders on
bills.  Do you want the world to see that you added a 150 million dollar
roadway to nowhere onto a college tuition aid bill?  

Secondly I'd like to see the president have a line item veto.  When he gets
a bill full of pork related crap he can remove some of the trash and get the
true nature of the bill completed and moved up. 

 


Stephen Russell
DBA / .Net Developer

Memphis TN 38115
901.246-0159

"Our scientific power has outrun our spiritual power. We have guided
missiles and misguided men." Dr. Martin Luther King Jr.

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RE: [OT] Madagain and Pete EXPLAINED!

[Hal Kaplan]

=> Subject: RE: [OT] Madagain and Pete EXPLAINED!
=> 
=> I'm not going to ask you to embrace my opinion, so you are 
=> safe there.
=> What does irritate me is that everybody wants a scape goat.
=> You and everybody else who votes, including me are 
=> responsible for the current state of affairs, not the 
=> president or anybody else, because they are doing what we 
=> want them to or what they think that we want from them.

Don't you think that's a bit simple?  First of all, it is not just the voters.  
The people who do not vote are just as culpable, perhaps moreso.  But once a 
politician is elected, there is no direct control over what he does.  There are 
no interim elections, no votes of confidence.  So the fellow has a bit of 
leeway.  Remember, we do not live in a democracy, we live in a republic.
  
=> If we don't like the way they are running things, we vote 
=> them out, pure and simple.
=> Because of the fact that we havent voted them out, that 
=> makes me believe that they are doing what we want them too.

I did not vote for Rumsfeld, Rice, Powell, Roberts, Bolton, etc.  Not because I 
did not want to but because I could not.  They are all appointed.  And the 
natural thing for them to do is follow the person who appointed them, not the 
electorate.

=> Now as to human rights, you have a muslim extremist incharge 
=> of iran who deny's that a holcaust happened.
=> You have muslim extremists in afghanistan who are willing 
=> and want to chop your head off if you don't grow a beard.
=> There are many others who have publicly gone on tv and said 
=> that they will destroy us and our way of life.

So these people have no human rights.  Which is what I said.  And you said that 
unless we do what we are doing in Iraq, these people will lose their rights.  
But they have no rights, so they have nothing to lose.  I am lost, Virgil.  
Which way is it?

=> I'm sorry folks, but when it walks and quacks like a duck, 
=> it must be a duck and hiding your head in the sand will not 
=> make it go away.
=> 
=> So for me, I believe he's doing one hell of a job. 

There is another thread here about hell.  Personally, I would like to stem the 
flow of our young men and women into heaven.  People may be dying to get there, 
but it is way too crowded because of all the illegal immigrants we are sending 
there every day.

=> Virgil Bierschwale
=> http://www.virgilslist.com   Where are my buddies ?
=> http://www.tccutlery.com Very nice knives
=> http://www.bierschwale.com   I want my own web site
=> http://www.bierschwalesolutions.com  Software Development and Resume

And thanks for explaining things a bit, Virgil. :)

B+
HALinNY


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RE: [NF] Getting XP workstation to access the network/file server

[Stephen the Cook]

Whil Hentzen (Pro*) <> wrote:
> john harvey wrote:
>> Go to control panel->system->device manager and see if the card is
>> showing up. If not, you need to add the drivers.
> 
> Naw, it's there.
> 
>> Open a cmd box from start->run->cmd
>> 
>> Try to ping something outside. You might also run tracert to see
>> where it is failing.
> 
> I can ping the server box from a cmd box.

If you can ping and browse then your networking is started.

Can you open the Explorer, rt click on My computer and browse your network?
Are the two machines in the same namespace "workgroup" or is one ia a
domain?


Stephen Russell
DBA / .Net Developer

Memphis TN 38115
901.246-0159

"Our scientific power has outrun our spiritual power. We have guided
missiles and misguided men." Dr. Martin Luther King Jr.

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RE: [OT] Madagain and Pete EXPLAINED!

[Virgil Bierschwale]

I'm not going to ask you to embrace my opinion, so you are safe there.
What does irritate me is that everybody wants a scape goat.
You and everybody else who votes, including me are responsible for the
current state of affairs, not the president or anybody else, because they
are doing what we want them to or what they think that we want from them.

If we don't like the way they are running things, we vote them out, pure and
simple.
Because of the fact that we havent voted them out, that makes me believe
that they are doing what we want them too.

Now as to human rights, you have a muslim extremist incharge of iran who
deny's that a holcaust happened.
You have muslim extremists in afghanistan who are willing and want to chop
your head off if you don't grow a beard.
There are many others who have publicly gone on tv and said that they will
destroy us and our way of life.

I'm sorry folks, but when it walks and quacks like a duck, it must be a duck
and hiding your head in the sand will not make it go away.

So for me, I believe he's doing one hell of a job. 


Virgil Bierschwale
http://www.virgilslist.com  Where are my buddies ?
http://www.tccutlery.comVery nice knives
http://www.bierschwale.com  I want my own web site
http://www.bierschwalesolutions.com Software Development and Resume
 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
Of Hal Kaplan
Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2006 10:33 AM
To: ProFox Email List
Subject: RE: [OT] Madagain and Pete EXPLAINED!

=> Subject: RE: [OT] Madagain and Pete EXPLAINED!
=>
=> Just your line about how ill-informed I might be says it all => about
your attitude.

Be reasonable, Virgil.  What am I supposed to say?  That you are absolutely
right but I am a total jerk who knows nothing and therefore I must disagree
with you?  I respect your opinion, Virgil but that doesn't mean that I have
to embrace it.

=> But as you say, you are entitled to your belief's.
=> I believe we are doing the right thing and that the => alternatives of
not fighting the muslim extremists will lead => to the downfall of
civilization and human rights the world over. 

OK, Virgil.  Convince me.  What "human rights the world over" are you
talking about?  Most of the world does not enjoy the level of human rights
that we Americans have today, let alone the level of human right that we
Americans HAD before the PATRIOT act.  

There was a time, not too long ago, that Americans could communicate with
each other privately without worrying about who was listening in.  There was
a time when Americans had the right of Habeas Corpus to provide some
protection from being jailed for no reason.  Hell, there was even a time
(albeit short) that Americans did not have to worry about being suspected of
a crime because of the clothes that they wore or the color of their skin or
the lord they worshipped.

So whose human rights are we protecting, Virgil?  And what civilization is
going to fall down?  The one in Darfur?  Chile?  Afghanistan?  Houston?

=> Virgil Bierschwale

I am sorry if you don't like my attitude, Virgil but you really need to stop
being so defensive and start telling us why you think your opinions are
right.  Geez, the worst thing that can happen is someone might learn
something!

B+
HALinNY


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Re: [NF] Getting XP workstation to access the network/file server

[William Sanders / EFG]

Heya Whil -

Were you trying to do something with SAMBA ?
Might be a good time to review the howto for it, prolly get you thinking
along another vein.

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RE: [OT] Madagain and Pete EXPLAINED!

[Hal Kaplan]

=> Subject: Re: [OT] Madagain and Pete EXPLAINED!
=> 
=> On 12/12/06, Hal Kaplan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
=> Come on for a real Renaissance Man like you :
=> a few seconds with Google:
=> http://www.infoplease.com/dictionary/brewers/extremes-meet.html
=> 
=> A+
=> jml
=> 

Jean, don't flatter me.  It does not work.  

And don't believe everything you read.

You are running the risk of becoming a pasgudnyak.

B+
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Re: [NF] Getting XP workstation to access the network/file server

[Whil Hentzen (Pro*)]

john harvey wrote:
> Go to control panel->system->device manager and see if the card is showing
> up. If not, you need to add the drivers.

Naw, it's there.

> Open a cmd box from start->run->cmd
> 
> Try to ping something outside. You might also run tracert to see where it is
> failing.

I can ping the server box from a cmd box.

Whil


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Re: [NF] Getting XP workstation to access the network/file server

[Whil Hentzen (Pro*)]

john harvey wrote:
> See if you have a tcp/ip stack in your xp connection and also check under
> network connections to see if the drivers for the nic are loaded.

I have no idea where to find a tcp/ip stack. 

I'm pretty sure the drivers are loaded as I can get out to the Web 
through the gateway on this network.

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RE: [NF] Getting XP workstation to access the network/file server

[Hal Kaplan]

=> 
=> I've turned Minesweeper and Windows Movie Maker on.
=> 
=> Still no workie.
=> 

Actually, Dave C. is correct ... it takes time for all the information to 
propagate through the network.

So sit back, make a movie or watch one.  Play a few dozen sessions of 
Minesweeper (the expert version) and hoist a few.

By the time you are done enjoying yourself, the network should be ready to go.

And Whil, please, no need to thank me.

B+
HALinNY


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RE: [NF] Getting XP workstation to access the network/file server

[john harvey]

Go to control panel->system->device manager and see if the card is showing
up. If not, you need to add the drivers.

Open a cmd box from start->run->cmd

Try to ping something outside. You might also run tracert to see where it is
failing.

John

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Hal Kaplan wrote:
> => 
> => The only thing that I can see that is different is in the 
> => Local Area Network Connection properties. On W2K, I've got 
> => all of the protocols enabled, whereas on XP, I've only got 
> => TCP/IP enabled. Do I need to have "Client for MSFT Networks" 
> => or "File and Print Sharing for MSFT Networks" 
> => enabled?
> => 
> => Whil
> 
> Homer saysm "D'Oh!"
> 
> Yes, you have the protocol enabled but nothing to using it. Turn some
services on.

Steve says I need the other protocols enabled. Seems like you're saying 
the reverse. Com'on, can't we all just get along?

And, since you didn't specify which services, I'm guessing that any old 
services would do.

I've turned Minesweeper and Windows Movie Maker on.

Still no workie.


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Re: [NF] Getting XP workstation to access the network/file server

[Whil Hentzen (Pro*)]

Dave Crozier wrote:
> Whil,
> You only need TCP/IP to run the network. 

I like this answer. 

> If XP version is Home then it may take some time to resolve all the network
> names and this can be anything from 1 minute to a couple of hours. XP Pro
> still takes a while but you sometimes have to kick it into action by
> browsing ALL the computers near me before it resolves the network names from
> the IP addresses.

No, no, no, not Home. Definitely Pro.

> Normally Start/Run  \\<> does the trick where the IP address is
> the server you want to find.

Hmmm, this is interesting. I can ping \\192.168.1.12, but when I 
Start/Run, I get a 'Network Address can't be reached'.

> You may well have the Netbios protocol (Microsoft Networking) set as the
> default protocol on the Win2K machine and ideally you shouldn't mix protocol
> stacks together so I would suggest only using TCP/IP on all the
> workstations. That way the network names will get resolved quicker.

Quick I'm not too worried about. Ideally, I'd like to get the XP box 
connected without touching the W2K box. Don't want to break the only 
working box... 

> Also check that the 2K machines are not looking for "Wins" names resolution.

Nope, no WINS around here.

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RE: [OT] Madagain and Pete EXPLAINED!

[Hal Kaplan]

=> Subject: RE: [OT] Madagain and Pete EXPLAINED!
=> 
=> Just your line about how ill-informed I might be says it all 
=> about your attitude.

Be reasonable, Virgil.  What am I supposed to say?  That you are absolutely 
right but I am a total jerk who knows nothing and therefore I must disagree 
with you?  I respect your opinion, Virgil but that doesn't mean that I have to 
embrace it.

=> But as you say, you are entitled to your belief's.
=> I believe we are doing the right thing and that the 
=> alternatives of not fighting the muslim extremists will lead 
=> to the downfall of civilization and human rights the world over. 

OK, Virgil.  Convince me.  What "human rights the world over" are you talking 
about?  Most of the world does not enjoy the level of human rights that we 
Americans have today, let alone the level of human right that we Americans HAD 
before the PATRIOT act.  

There was a time, not too long ago, that Americans could communicate with each 
other privately without worrying about who was listening in.  There was a time 
when Americans had the right of Habeas Corpus to provide some protection from 
being jailed for no reason.  Hell, there was even a time (albeit short) that 
Americans did not have to worry about being suspected of a crime because of the 
clothes that they wore or the color of their skin or the lord they worshipped.

So whose human rights are we protecting, Virgil?  And what civilization is 
going to fall down?  The one in Darfur?  Chile?  Afghanistan?  Houston?

=> Virgil Bierschwale

I am sorry if you don't like my attitude, Virgil but you really need to stop 
being so defensive and start telling us why you think your opinions are right.  
Geez, the worst thing that can happen is someone might learn something!

B+
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Re: [NF] Getting XP workstation to access the network/file server

[Whil Hentzen (Pro*)]

Hal Kaplan wrote:
> => 
> => The only thing that I can see that is different is in the 
> => Local Area Network Connection properties. On W2K, I've got 
> => all of the protocols enabled, whereas on XP, I've only got 
> => TCP/IP enabled. Do I need to have "Client for MSFT Networks" 
> => or "File and Print Sharing for MSFT Networks" 
> => enabled?
> => 
> => Whil
> 
> Homer saysm "D'Oh!"
> 
> Yes, you have the protocol enabled but nothing to using it. Turn some 
> services on.

Steve says I need the other protocols enabled. Seems like you're saying 
the reverse. Com'on, can't we all just get along?

And, since you didn't specify which services, I'm guessing that any old 
services would do.

I've turned Minesweeper and Windows Movie Maker on.

Still no workie.


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Re: [OT] Madagain and Pete EXPLAINED!

[Jean Laeremans]

On 12/12/06, Hal Kaplan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Come on for a real Renaissance Man like you :
a few seconds with Google:
http://www.infoplease.com/dictionary/brewers/extremes-meet.html

A+
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Re: [NF] Getting XP workstation to access the network/file server

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>> The only thing that I can see that is different is in the Local Area
>> Network Connection properties. On W2K, I've got all of the protocols
>> enabled, whereas on XP, I've only got TCP/IP enabled. Do I need to
>> have "Client for MSFT Networks" or "File and Print Sharing for MSFT
>> Networks"
>> enabled?
> 
> Yes

Which? Or both?

> and you may have the M$ firewall set very tight as well.

"I didn't touch a thing! It came out of the box like this!"

OK, I've added "File and Print Sharing" to the firewall exceptions list.

Whil


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[NF] The logical Delete -- xBase concept comes to RDBMS level?

[Stephen Russell]

In the desire to keep data, and not loose the row in a delete function in
say SQL Server this article brings up manners to trick your system.



I have a column Termdate that is updated with getdate() when a row it to be
deleted.  

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[OT]

[Stephen Russell]

Car Bombs Kill at Least 57 in Baghdad

NPR.org, December 12, 2006 · Two car bombs explode within moments of each
other in central Baghdad, killing at least 57 and wounding more than 150,
according to police. The attack targeted day laborers waiting for work.

It's tought when the two groups take one another out in a daily basis.  

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missiles and misguided men." 
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RE: [OT] Madagain and Pete EXPLAINED!

[Hal Kaplan]

=> Subject: Re: [OT] Madagain and Pete EXPLAINED!
=> 
=> On 12/12/06, Hal Kaplan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
=> > I am an extremist, Virgil, but not a fanatic.  You are 
=> entitled to your opinion no matter how ill-informed it might 
=> be.  I won't vilify you for it.
=> >
=> > B+
=> > HALinNY
=> 
=> Spoken like a real Renaissance Man...
=> "Les extrèmes se touchent"
=> A+
=> jml
=>

 Oh, Jean, I love when you talk dirty to me ...

One of the problems with any educational system is that once a subject is 
covered, there is no assurance that the knowledge imparted will ever be used 
again.  My sixth-grade teacher decided all her students would speak French.  
She taught, we learned.  5+ hours a day, 5 days a week, for the 40-week school 
year.  

When I got home from school every day, I spoke to my family.  Mostly English, 
but some Polish, Spanish, Yiddish, and occasionally Russian.  But no French.  
Now, nearly 50 years later it dawns on me that I was so foolish for not having 
forced my entire family to learn to speak French.  Had I done that instead of 
all the other flighty things I did as a child, I would not have this problem of 
understanding Jean today.

B+
HALinNY


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[OT] Michael

[Virgil Bierschwale]

Hey Michael,

Whats the link for your website and what was the link for your tshirt vendor
?

Thanks,

Virgil Bierschwale
http://www.virgilslist.com  Where are my buddies ?
http://www.tccutlery.comVery nice knives
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http://www.bierschwalesolutions.com Software Development and Resume
 

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RE: [NF] Getting XP workstation to access the network/file server

[john harvey]

Ah yes, beer, it's not just for breakfast!

John

-Original Message-
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Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2006 9:36 AM
To: ProFox Email List
Subject: RE: [NF] Getting XP workstation to access the network/file server

=> Subject: RE: [NF] Getting XP workstation to access the 
=> network/file server
=> 
=> 
=> Yes and you may have the M$ firewall set very tight as well.
=> 
=> Stephen Russell
=>

Slow down, Steve.  Don't overload Whil unless you're sure he's had enough
beer this morning.  Also, if we spoil the ending, no one will stay tuned for
the next episode. 

Whil, he meant fireWATER, not fireWALL.  

B+
HALinNY


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Re: [OT] Madagain and Pete EXPLAINED!

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On 12/12/06, Hal Kaplan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I am an extremist, Virgil, but not a fanatic.  You are entitled to your 
> opinion no matter how ill-informed it might be.  I won't vilify you for it.
>
> B+
> HALinNY

Spoken like a real Renaissance Man...
"Les extrèmes se touchent"
A+
jml


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RE: [OT] Madagain and Pete EXPLAINED!

[Virgil Bierschwale]

Just your line about how ill-informed I might be says it all about your
attitude.

But as you say, you are entitled to your belief's.
I believe we are doing the right thing and that the alternatives of not
fighting the muslim extremists will lead to the downfall of civilization and
human rights the world over. 


Virgil Bierschwale
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-Original Message-
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Of Hal Kaplan
Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2006 9:33 AM
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Subject: RE: [OT] Madagain and Pete EXPLAINED!

Virgil writes ... 

=> Subject: RE: [OT] Madagain and Pete EXPLAINED!
=>
=> A lot of people will disagree with you on this, myself included..
=> 

Anything in particular, Virgil, or just the whole thing?

I am an extremist, Virgil, but not a fanatic.  You are entitled to your
opinion no matter how ill-informed it might be.  I won't vilify you for it.

B+
HALinNY


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RE: [NF] Getting XP workstation to access the network/file server

[john harvey]

See if you have a tcp/ip stack in your xp connection and also check under
network connections to see if the drivers for the nic are loaded.

John

-Original Message-
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Subject: [NF] Getting XP workstation to access the network/file server

In this week's exciting episode

I've got a box with XP and Fedora Core residing happily next to each 
other in a dual boot scenario (it's really quite easy, once you learn 
The Magic Trick). I'll have a writeup on all of the detailed steps (just 
for you, Virgil!) ready next week.

So nows I wants to access the file server with this XP install. Trouble 
is, XP doesn't see anything on the network at all. Network Neighborhood 
only shows the name of the domain (on the NT4 server.) No nodes 
underneath. However, I've got a Win2K on the same network and it can 
browse any and everything on the network nice as can be.

Logins on both the W2K and XP boxes are the same.

Either (1) Both W2K and XP use a network access setting but it's set 
up OK in W2K but not in XP, or (2) The way you connect to the network 
(active dir?) in XP is different than in W2K.

History leading up to this... This network had originally been an NT4 
file server based network. Then I migrated the file serving tasks to a 
Linux box and use Samba to connect from W2K. I was expecting to add this 
XP box to the network and have it 'magically' see the file server as 
well, but no go.

The only thing that I can see that is different is in the Local Area 
Network Connection properties. On W2K, I've got all of the protocols 
enabled, whereas on XP, I've only got TCP/IP enabled. Do I need to have 
"Client for MSFT Networks" or "File and Print Sharing for MSFT Networks" 
enabled?

Whil


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RE: [NF] Getting XP workstation to access the network/file server

[Hal Kaplan]

=> Subject: RE: [NF] Getting XP workstation to access the 
=> network/file server
=> 
=> 
=> Yes and you may have the M$ firewall set very tight as well.
=> 
=> Stephen Russell
=>

Slow down, Steve.  Don't overload Whil unless you're sure he's had enough beer 
this morning.  Also, if we spoil the ending, no one will stay tuned for the 
next episode. 

Whil, he meant fireWATER, not fireWALL.  

B+
HALinNY


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RE: [NF] Getting XP workstation to access the network/file server

[Dave Crozier]

Whil,
You only need TCP/IP to run the network. 

If XP version is Home then it may take some time to resolve all the network
names and this can be anything from 1 minute to a couple of hours. XP Pro
still takes a while but you sometimes have to kick it into action by
browsing ALL the computers near me before it resolves the network names from
the IP addresses.

Normally Start/Run  \\<> does the trick where the IP address is
the server you want to find.

You may well have the Netbios protocol (Microsoft Networking) set as the
default protocol on the Win2K machine and ideally you shouldn't mix protocol
stacks together so I would suggest only using TCP/IP on all the
workstations. That way the network names will get resolved quicker.

Also check that the 2K machines are not looking for "Wins" names resolution.

Dave Crozier


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Subject: [NF] Getting XP workstation to access the network/file server

In this week's exciting episode

I've got a box with XP and Fedora Core residing happily next to each 
other in a dual boot scenario (it's really quite easy, once you learn 
The Magic Trick). I'll have a writeup on all of the detailed steps (just 
for you, Virgil!) ready next week.

So nows I wants to access the file server with this XP install. Trouble 
is, XP doesn't see anything on the network at all. Network Neighborhood 
only shows the name of the domain (on the NT4 server.) No nodes 
underneath. However, I've got a Win2K on the same network and it can 
browse any and everything on the network nice as can be.

Logins on both the W2K and XP boxes are the same.

Either (1) Both W2K and XP use a network access setting but it's set 
up OK in W2K but not in XP, or (2) The way you connect to the network 
(active dir?) in XP is different than in W2K.

History leading up to this... This network had originally been an NT4 
file server based network. Then I migrated the file serving tasks to a 
Linux box and use Samba to connect from W2K. I was expecting to add this 
XP box to the network and have it 'magically' see the file server as 
well, but no go.

The only thing that I can see that is different is in the Local Area 
Network Connection properties. On W2K, I've got all of the protocols 
enabled, whereas on XP, I've only got TCP/IP enabled. Do I need to have 
"Client for MSFT Networks" or "File and Print Sharing for MSFT Networks" 
enabled?

Whil


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RE: [OT] Madagain and Pete EXPLAINED!

[Hal Kaplan]

Virgil writes ... 

=> Subject: RE: [OT] Madagain and Pete EXPLAINED!
=> 
=> A lot of people will disagree with you on this, myself included..
=> 

Anything in particular, Virgil, or just the whole thing?

I am an extremist, Virgil, but not a fanatic.  You are entitled to your opinion 
no matter how ill-informed it might be.  I won't vilify you for it.

B+
HALinNY


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RE: [NF] Getting XP workstation to access the network/file server

[Stephen the Cook]

Whil Hentzen (Pro*) <> wrote:
> In this week's exciting episode
> 
> I've got a box with XP and Fedora Core residing happily next to each
> other in a dual boot scenario (it's really quite easy, once you learn
> The Magic Trick). I'll have a writeup on all of the detailed steps
> (just for you, Virgil!) ready next week.   
> 
> So nows I wants to access the file server with this XP install.
> Trouble is, XP doesn't see anything on the network at all. Network
> Neighborhood only shows the name of the domain (on the NT4 server.)
> No nodes underneath. However, I've got a Win2K on the same network
> and it can browse any and everything on the network nice as can be.  
> 
> Logins on both the W2K and XP boxes are the same.
> 
> Either (1) Both W2K and XP use a network access setting but it's
> set up OK in W2K but not in XP, or (2) The way you connect to the
> network (active dir?) in XP is different than in W2K.  
> 
> History leading up to this... This network had originally been an NT4
> file server based network. Then I migrated the file serving tasks to
> a Linux box and use Samba to connect from W2K. I was expecting to add
> this XP box to the network and have it 'magically' see the file
> server as well, but no go.
> 
> The only thing that I can see that is different is in the Local Area
> Network Connection properties. On W2K, I've got all of the protocols
> enabled, whereas on XP, I've only got TCP/IP enabled. Do I need to
> have "Client for MSFT Networks" or "File and Print Sharing for MSFT
> Networks"
> enabled?

Yes and you may have the M$ firewall set very tight as well.


Stephen Russell
DBA / .Net Developer

Memphis TN 38115
901.246-0159

"Our scientific power has outrun our spiritual power. We have guided
missiles and misguided men." Dr. Martin Luther King Jr.

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RE: [OT] Madagain and Pete EXPLAINED!

[Virgil Bierschwale]

A lot of people will disagree with you on this, myself included..


Virgil Bierschwale
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http://www.tccutlery.comVery nice knives
http://www.bierschwale.com  I want my own web site
 

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=>
=> Virgil Bierschwale <> wrote:
=> > I've said it many times..
=> > All extremist religious leaders, whether they be muslim or => catholic
=> > are TROUBLE
=> 

Maybe it's semantics but I think that extremism in and of itself is not bad;
it is fanaticism that is bad.  And it's not just religious fanaticism, it's
any discipline ... politics for example.

John Adams was an extremist.  He was absolutely unshakable in his ideas for
freedom from the King of England.  But he wasn't a fanatic.  He understood
that unless everyone was free, no one would be free (including the slaves).
So he compromised and took the best deal he could get to advance his cause
without jeopardizing everything else.

Our current President is an extremist.  I am not sure what his goal is but I
know his mind cannot be changed about attaining that goal.  Unfortunately,
he is also a fanatic.  He does not care what anyone else thinks and he is
oblivious to the costs and consequences of his actions.  In being a fanatic,
he is being counterproductive to his extremist goal because he is alienating
people who may agree with his end result but not with his means to that end.

Just as an aside, I still believe that Shrub is a puppet for the likes of
Cheney's Crew.  Shrub may be a good ole boy way down, but someone is pulling
his strings and until the issue of who that gets resolved, I have no choice
but to pin the "blame" on Papa George's Boy Blunder.

B+
HALinNY


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