[NF] Handy way to send someone a file without emailing it.

2007-01-29 Thread Alan Bourke
http://www.senduit.com/

Upload file, set expiry time, get URL, send URL to other person, they
download.

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RE: [NF] Handy way to send someone a file without emailing it.

2007-01-29 Thread Jim Felton
Sweet!!
Jim

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Subject:[NF] Handy way to send someone a file without emailing it.

http://www.senduit.com/

Upload file, set expiry time, get URL, send URL to other person, they
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Re: [NF] Handy way to send someone a file without emailing it.

2007-01-29 Thread Eugene Vital
Jim Felton wrote:
 Sweet!!
 Jim

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 http://www.senduit.com/

 Upload file, set expiry time, get URL, send URL to other person, they
 download.
   

Just curious but do people who use services like this worry about security?

Personally I would NEVER use anything like this, however I have been
known to be a little on the paranoid side.

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Re: [NF] Medical insurance

2007-01-29 Thread MB Software Solutions
Kristyne McDaniel wrote:
 The fine print was on the company's web site, and not in the stuff I got on
 'separation' day. I printed it to a PDF to save it. The conversion to the
 retirement medical plan was restricted to those that were involuntarily laid
 off, and did not apply to folks that quit. Since my job was farmed out to
 India, I meet the requirements.
   

Ah, now I can say I personally know of someone who's job was lost to 
India.  Sad, but now true.  Good luck, Kris.

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RE: [OT] Oldie but goodie

2007-01-29 Thread Stephen the Cook
Kristyne McDaniel  wrote:
 Stephen,
 
 Floor 6 - You are visitor 31,456,012 to this floor. There are no men
 on this floor. This floor exists solely as proof that women are
 impossible to please. Thank you for shopping at the Husband Store
 
 The fact that Pamela Anderson was a Playmate before feeling the need
 to get those huge implants proves to me that men are just as
 impossible to please.  
 
 This is just the human condition...

Well I thought that the sixth floor should have been gay men instead.  


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RE: [OT] Deaths since the Iraq war -- on our soil

2007-01-29 Thread Stephen the Cook
Michael Madigan  wrote:
 My religion requires me to help others, send charity, prevent baby
 deaths. 

Whare are you going to start with the first section?

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RE: [OT] Deaths since the Iraq war -- on our soil

2007-01-29 Thread Stephen the Cook
Justin Darnell  wrote:
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I have to clean the coffee off my monitor now.  

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Re: Protect VFP source code

2007-01-29 Thread MB Software Solutions
Chester Friesen wrote:
 Thanks, all, for your comments. If someone could recommend an obfuscator 
 I would appreciate that.
 I wrote an app that has a small vertical market potential, the person I 
 wrote it for would like to help me market it. She is concerned that 
 someone in her industry that is well versed in Excel may be able to 
 somehow get the routines that I used to calculate and steal them. I 
 doubt that she could do that, but I guess it depends on her resolve to 
 get it (if she even decides to try.)  I do need to code in something to 
 make it harder to pass around and use, but I don't think that would be 
 too hard. Thanks to those who gave some ideas.

   

What industry or what kind of app, Chester, if I may ask?

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Re: [NF] Handy way to send someone a file without emailing it.

2007-01-29 Thread Alan Bourke

On Mon, 29 Jan 2007 07:15:30 -0500, Eugene Vital [EMAIL PROTECTED]
said:

 Just curious but do people who use services like this worry about
 security?

Absolutely, which is why I would package whatever it was in an encrypted
self-extracting WinRAR exe.
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Pageframe tabs on Left

2007-01-29 Thread Andrew Stirling
Hi

I see if I put the pageframe tabs on the Left, it starts with the first 
tab at the Bottom.
I would like the first tab to be at the Top.
It does it the way I want if I choose the Right tab display.

Is there a way to get the tabs to display from the Top to the Bottom on 
the Left hand side?

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Re: Pageframe tabs on Left

2007-01-29 Thread MB Software Solutions
Andrew Stirling wrote:
 Hi

 I see if I put the pageframe tabs on the Left, it starts with the first 
 tab at the Bottom.
 I would like the first tab to be at the Top.
 It does it the way I want if I choose the Right tab display.

 Is there a way to get the tabs to display from the Top to the Bottom on 
 the Left hand side?

 Thanks

   
Well, you could always design it that way, from last to first to 
compensate for that.

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RE: Pageframe tabs on Left

2007-01-29 Thread John Weller
There is a setting on the page that allows you to set the order - PageOrder.

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 I see if I put the pageframe tabs on the Left, it starts with the first 
 tab at the Bottom.
 I would like the first tab to be at the Top.
 It does it the way I want if I choose the Right tab display.
 
 Is there a way to get the tabs to display from the Top to the Bottom on 
 the Left hand side?
 


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RE: Pageframe tabs on Left

2007-01-29 Thread John J. Mihaljevic
Wouldn't changing the value of PageOrder on each page do what you want?

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 I see if I put the pageframe tabs on the Left, it starts with 
 the first tab at the Bottom.
 I would like the first tab to be at the Top.
 It does it the way I want if I choose the Right tab display.
 
 Is there a way to get the tabs to display from the Top to the 
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Re: Pageframe tabs on Left

2007-01-29 Thread Kevin Cully
Just a note of caution.  I was developing a VFP 9 app with a pageframe
with tabs on the left and there was a bug where the height of the
pageframe in the IDE was different from the height of the pageframe when
the form was run.  I can't remember if this was with SP1 or not.  The
height problem didn't appear when the tabs were on the top or the
bottom.  It's been a while so I apologize for the scarce details.  It's
worth running a test though.

-Kevin

Andrew Stirling wrote:
 I see if I put the pageframe tabs on the Left, it starts with the first 
 tab at the Bottom.
 I would like the first tab to be at the Top.
 It does it the way I want if I choose the Right tab display.




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RE: [NF] Medical insurance

2007-01-29 Thread Kristyne McDaniel
Michael,

 Ah, now I can say I personally know of someone who's job was lost to 
 India.  Sad, but now true.  Good luck, Kris.

Yup, I'm one of the statistics now. But I got severance and unemployment and
a reprieve while the house is under construction (no mortgage payments), and
now I have a new contract with an old client.

Other than losing a little money over the last few months, everything is
fine. :-)

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RE: [OT] Oldie but goodie

2007-01-29 Thread Kristyne McDaniel
Stephen,

 Well I thought that the sixth floor should have been gay men 
 instead.  

That's what I was expecting, actually. :-)

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RE: [NF] Medical insurance

2007-01-29 Thread Virgil Bierschwale
Glad to hear that. 


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Michael,

 Ah, now I can say I personally know of someone who's job was lost to 
 India.  Sad, but now true.  Good luck, Kris.

Yup, I'm one of the statistics now. But I got severance and unemployment and
a reprieve while the house is under construction (no mortgage payments), and
now I have a new contract with an old client.

Other than losing a little money over the last few months, everything is
fine. :-)

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RE: [NF] Medical insurance

2007-01-29 Thread Kristyne McDaniel
Virgil,

 Glad to hear that. 

For a while there I was getting pretty worried. If Steve hadn't sold two
litters of puppies in the last few weeks it would have been worse. But now I
have a reprieve. So I have to make the best use of that reprieve that I can.

I hope that your ventures bear fruit soon as well.

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RE: [NF] Medical insurance

2007-01-29 Thread Virgil Bierschwale
Thanks..
They will because I'm a persistent SOB and too stupid to know when to give
up.
Guess that’s why they call us hard headed dutchmen grin

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Virgil,

 Glad to hear that. 

For a while there I was getting pretty worried. If Steve hadn't sold two
litters of puppies in the last few weeks it would have been worse. But now I
have a reprieve. So I have to make the best use of that reprieve that I can.

I hope that your ventures bear fruit soon as well.

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RE: [NF] Handy way to send someone a file without emailing it.

2007-01-29 Thread john harvey
Are you with the CIA? Most files that are sent can be zipped with a password
and that should suffice in most cases. If you are sending critical, top
secret, classified information, this isn't a good method. I do this all the
time. Somebody wants to see some pictures I took, I put them on my web
server and send them the link.

John

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Jim Felton wrote:
 Sweet!!
 Jim

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 http://www.senduit.com/

 Upload file, set expiry time, get URL, send URL to other person, they
 download.
   

Just curious but do people who use services like this worry about security?

Personally I would NEVER use anything like this, however I have been
known to be a little on the paranoid side.

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RE: [OT] Joke? It may be true

2007-01-29 Thread john harvey
Subject: Bar Robot

Subject: Bar Robot

 
 
A man walked into a very high-tech bar. As he sat down on a stool he noticed
that the bartender was a robot. The robot clicked to attention and asked,
Sir, what will you have?
 
The man thought a moment then replied, A martini please.
 
The robot clicked a couple of times and mixed the best martini the man had
ever had.
 
The robot then asked, Sir, what is your IQ?
 
The man answered Oh, about 164.
 
The robot then proceeded to discuss the 'theory of relativity',
inter-stellar space travel', 'the latest medical break through, etc...
 
The man was most impressed. He left the bar but thought he would try a
different tact.
He returned and took a seat. Again the robot click ed and asked what he
would have A Martini please.
 
Again it was superb. The robot again asked What is your IQ, sir?
 
This time the man answered, Oh, about 100 So the robot started discussing
Nascar racing, the latest basketball scores, and what to expect the Dodgers
to do this week end.
 
The guy had to try it one more time. So he left, returned and took a stool.
 
Again a martini, and the question, What is your IQ???
 
This time the man drawled out  Uh. bout 50.
 
The robot clicked then leaned close and very slowly asked,
 
A-r-e y-o-u-r p-e-o-p-l-e g-o-i-n-g t-o n-o-m-i-n-a-t-e H-i-l-l-a-r-y-
 
 




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Re: [NF] Medical insurance

2007-01-29 Thread MB Software Solutions
Virgil Bierschwale wrote:
 Guess that’s why they call us hard headed dutchmen grin

   

Then you should be living here in PA with the rest of the cement-headed 
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RE: [NF] Medical insurance

2007-01-29 Thread Virgil Bierschwale
We're pretty good at getting around..
Hell, I may have kinfolk up that way...

I know I had lots of fun in new england grin 


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Virgil Bierschwale wrote:
 Guess that’s why they call us hard headed dutchmen grin

   

Then you should be living here in PA with the rest of the cement-headed
Dutchmen.  gdr

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RE: [NF] Medical insurance

2007-01-29 Thread David Crooks
On Monday, January 29, 2007 11:42 AM Virgil Bierschwale wrote:

We're pretty good at getting around..
Hell, I may have kinfolk up that way...

I know I had lots of fun in new england grin 

Yeah, they get around on horse and buggy.  I guess you could say they
are pretty good at getting around! :-)

My told me about some study of far the Amish walk and it was pretty
amazing.  You won't see too many fat Amish folks!

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Re: [NF] Medical insurance

2007-01-29 Thread MB Software Solutions
David Crooks wrote:
 Yeah, they get around on horse and buggy.  I guess you could say they
 are pretty good at getting around! :-)

 My told me about some study of far the Amish walk and it was pretty
 amazing.  You won't see too many fat Amish folks!
   

The mature women perhaps...but then again, who isn't a little overweight 
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RE: [NF] Medical insurance

2007-01-29 Thread Rodney Dixon
Chattanooga is not too bad either.

Regards
Rodney

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RE: Any way to get WAN IP in VFP app?

2007-01-29 Thread Dave Crozier
Michael,
Also I've finished off the Google Earth demo and I'll (hopefully given time)
package it up for you this evening when I get home

Dave Crozier


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Michael,
If you can shell out to a command line then run the command:

ping -r 1 www.yahoo.com

You will get back in the resulting message the WAN IP address. You can
obviously pipe the command out to a text file and examine this to extract
the WAN IP address

Dave Crozier



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Matthew Jarvis wrote:
 MB Software Solutions wrote:
   
 I've got code from here that gave the IP and MAC addresses of the 
 computer running an app.  Is there a way to get the WAN ip?

 

 Do you mean the public interface, as in the result of whatismyip.com 
 kinda thing?

   
Yes!  But note that I want this all to happen behind the scenes.


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Re: Any way to get WAN IP in VFP app?

2007-01-29 Thread MB Software Solutions
Dave Crozier wrote:
 Michael,
 Also I've finished off the Google Earth demo and I'll (hopefully given time)
 package it up for you this evening when I get home

 Dave Crozier
   
Wonderful!  I look forward to seeing it!  Thanks!


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RE: [OT] Deaths since the Iraq war -- on our soil

2007-01-29 Thread Michael Madigan
Let me help you spell where, that's a start. LOL


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 Whare are you going to start with the first section?
 
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RE: [OT] Deaths since the Iraq war -- on our soil

2007-01-29 Thread Michael Madigan
Come on Russel, you can't agree with him that there
are no moral absolutes.


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RE: [OT] Oldie but goodie

2007-01-29 Thread Michael Madigan
That's the line I use.  Don't like it, marry a
homo!.  LOL



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Detecting if you're running in a Terminal Services environment

2007-01-29 Thread Richard Kaye
I know there's been some discussion of this in the past. I just found an 
API call that will do this.

#DEFINE SM_REMOTESESSION 0x1000
DECLARE INTEGER GetSystemMetrics IN user32 INTEGER nIndex
CLEAR
ACTIVATE SCREEN
?GetSystemMetrics(SM_REMOTESESSION)

Any non-zero value indicates the session is running under TS. The only 
caveat to that is if you are logged in to the console session, it will 
return 0.

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Re: Any way to get WAN IP in VFP app?

2007-01-29 Thread MB Software Solutions
Dave Crozier wrote:
 Michael,
 If you can shell out to a command line then run the command:

 ping -r 1 www.yahoo.com

 You will get back in the resulting message the WAN IP address. You can
 obviously pipe the command out to a text file and examine this to extract
 the WAN IP address

 Dave Crozier
   

Not reliable in my tests.  I think the best thing to do is perhaps just 
do a NavigateTo with some tool of Rick Strahl's wwIPStuff.vcx and scrape 
the returned text for the value of displaycopy (between the parenthesis).

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RE: Any way to get WAN IP in VFP app?

2007-01-29 Thread john harvey
This will work from within vfp as long as you can create an instance of IE
and the website 'www.whatismyip.com' is up and running. This is quick and
dirty - add your error checking:
*create instance of IE
If Type('OIE')='U'
Public oie
oie=Creat('internetexplorer.application')
OIE.VISIBLE=.T.
ENDIF

lcurl=[http://www.whatismyip.com]
oie.Navigate(lcurl)
* I find you have to have three levels of checking on the web stuff
* first check oie's readystate, then the documents, then the busy state of
IE
Do While oie.readystate4
Enddo
Do While oie.Document.readystate'complete'
Enddo
Do while oie.busy
Enddo
* you might want to check on the existence of the next line (error trapping)
lc=oie.Document.body.innertext
* If it fails, return 'none'
LCIP='NONE'
FOR i = 1 TO MEMLINES(lc)
lcline=UPPER(MLINE(lc,i))
IF OCCURS('YOUR IP IS',LCLINE)0
 lcip=STRTRAN(lcline,'YOUR IP IS','')
ENDIF
ENDFOR

?LCIP


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Dave Crozier wrote:
 Michael,
 If you can shell out to a command line then run the command:

 ping -r 1 www.yahoo.com

 You will get back in the resulting message the WAN IP address. You can
 obviously pipe the command out to a text file and examine this to extract
 the WAN IP address

 Dave Crozier
   

Not reliable in my tests.  I think the best thing to do is perhaps just 
do a NavigateTo with some tool of Rick Strahl's wwIPStuff.vcx and scrape 
the returned text for the value of displaycopy (between the parenthesis).

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Re: Protect VFP source code

2007-01-29 Thread Sales Info
Michael,

 Does checking the Encrypted checkbox on the Project/Project Info 
 screen/Project tab just give the slightest level of source code protection 
 beyond nothing?

In the real world: No.

 Never really sure of what that accomplished?

That's an easy oneg ... it prevents you from being able to compress
your EXE's and APP's. LOL! (but true)

Malcolm


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Re: Protect VFP source code

2007-01-29 Thread MB Software Solutions
Sales Info wrote:
 Michael,

   
 Does checking the Encrypted checkbox on the Project/Project Info 
 screen/Project tab just give the slightest level of source code protection 
 beyond nothing?
 

 In the real world: No.

   
 Never really sure of what that accomplished?
 

 That's an easy oneg ... it prevents you from being able to compress
 your EXE's and APP's. LOL! (but true)

   

That's the ONLY thing I noticed too when packaging them up in WinZip!  
So if there's really no benefit, guess I'll turn off the Encrypted 
option so I can at least make small package deployment files!

Thanks, Mal!

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[OT] cheating wife

2007-01-29 Thread Michael Madigan
Cheating Wife

A man, returning home a day early from a business
trip, 
got into a taxi at the airport. It was after midnight.
While 
en route to his home, he asked the cabby if he would
be a 
witness. The man suspected his wife was having an
affair 
and he intended to catch her in the act. For $100, the
cabby agreed.

Quietly arriving at the house, the husband and cabby
tiptoed 
into the bedroom. The husband switched on the lights, 
yanked the blanket back and there was his wife in bed
with 
another man. The husband put a gun to the naked man's
head.

The wife shouted, Don't do it! This man has been very
generous ! 
I lied when I told you I inherited money. This man
paid for the 
Hummer I bought for you. He paid for our new cabin
cruiser. He 
paid for your New York Giant's season tickets. He paid
for our 
house at the lake. He paid for our country club
membership, and 
he even pays the monthly dues!

Shaking his head from side-to-side the husband slowly
lowered 
the gun. He looked over at the cab driver and said,
What would 
you do ?

The cabby replied, I'd cover his ass up with that
blanket before 
he catches a cold.

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Re: Wierd Label behaviour

2007-01-29 Thread Ed Leafe
On Jan 28, 2007, at 11:13 PM, Nicholas Geti wrote:

 What makes you so arrogant that you think you know why the rest of  
 us do
 what we do and that we are all so bloody interested in every  
 message that we
 want to do scrolling. Give me a break.

OK, I'll give you that one. I assumed that people were lazy or  
inconsiderate to clog up email lists with useless junk by not  
trimming. I forgot the possibility that it was being done on purpose  
by some who were intentionally being jerks. My bad.

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Re: Wierd Label behaviour

2007-01-29 Thread Kenneth Kixmoeller/fh

On Jan 29, 2007, at 2:18 PM, Ed Leafe wrote:

 some who were intentionally being jerks. My bad.

I'm sorry, Ed. My bad has been a banished phrase since 1998.

   http://www.lssu.edu/banished/archive/1998.php
   or (http://tinyurl.com/2th2cz)

Even done sarcastically, it is really your bad. g

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Re: Wierd Label behaviour

2007-01-29 Thread Ted Roche
On 1/29/07, Ed Leafe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I forgot the possibility that it was being done on purpose
 by some who were intentionally being jerks. My bad.


Ow. Never attribute to malice that which can be explained by ignorance.

Wikipedia gives both sides of the debate a little:

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reply to a message or a posting be sure you summarize the original at
the top of the message, or include just enough text of the original to
give a context. This will make sure readers understand when they start
to read your response. ... When replying to a message, include
enough original material to be understood but no more. It is extremely
bad form to simply reply to a message by including all the previous
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Re: Wierd Label behaviour

2007-01-29 Thread Ed Leafe
On Jan 29, 2007, at 3:43 PM, Ted Roche wrote:

 I forgot the possibility that it was being done on purpose
 by some who were intentionally being jerks. My bad.

 Ow. Never attribute to malice that which can be explained by  
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That was my original thought, and I was chastised for assuming that.

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[NF] Extending credit to clients?

2007-01-29 Thread Ted Roche
I had a client I've worked with before approach me for a follow-on
project. They're strapped for cash at the moment, but had been perfect
with payments on time in previous project that lasted 10 months.
They'd like to defer some of the costs of development for a period,
which I can sympathize with, but I'm not a bank and am fairly naive
over the terms offered. Anyone have an opinion (ha! In this crowd, has
anyone got an opinion -- what a funny guy!) on whether this is ever a
good idea or gotches on these terms:

Time billable at $X.00 / hour

Compensation split

One-third = cash payable monthly NET 30
Two-thirds = convertible, unsecured 90-day note at Prime + 3%

Each 90 days, client will pay interest due and roll note over for
another 90 days or offer the choice of the following options

 - payment in full of all principal and interest due
 - conversion to equity at the rate of $XXk owed = 1 % equity (or fraction
thereof)

I don't think it's such a good idea to get into the loan business
myself. But I'd welcome comments if someone has done this with clients
to hear how it worked out. The red flags for me include unsecured,
options appear to be at the client's discretion (getting the client to
clarify the options here) and conversion to a minority shareholder.
Obviously, if the business goes Google, that could be gigabux, but the
reality is that's it's more likely pennies on the dollar, or
nothing...


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Refresh all open forms

2007-01-29 Thread Garry Bettle
Howdy all,

I'm testing a form, which contains an instance of IE.  What I'd like
to do is to run several instances of this form - each with a different
webpage loaded - and refresh them all at once.

Does anyone know of a quick way to refresh every open form?

Cheers,

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RE: [NF] Extending credit to clients?

2007-01-29 Thread John Weller
I extend credit to one client - but not intentionally!!!  They're b*( awful
payers but always pay up in the end; they have to as they rely on me too
much.

My immediate reaction would be to avoid it like the plague.  If they need a
loan then get one from the bank.

John Weller
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07976 393631

 I had a client I've worked with before approach me for a follow-on
 project. They're strapped for cash at the moment, but had been perfect
 with payments on time in previous project that lasted 10 months.
 They'd like to defer some of the costs of development for a period,
 which I can sympathize with, but I'm not a bank and am fairly naive
 over the terms offered. Anyone have an opinion (ha! In this crowd, has
 anyone got an opinion -- what a funny guy!) on whether this is ever a
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FPW 2.6 Report Font

2007-01-29 Thread Kent Belan
Hello,
I have to work on an old FPW 2.6 program and make changes to a report.
It uses very basic code:
set console off
set print font 'COURIER',8
set printer on
? 'Report Header'
?
? 'More report stuff'
set printer off
set printer to
set console on

I need to be able to change the font to a fixed length font with 8 points.
It is printing a proportial font and I need a fixed font 
Any ideas?
Thanks Kent



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RE: [NF] Extending credit to clients?

2007-01-29 Thread mrgmhale
If it were my nominal client, not one that pays a monthly recurring license
fee, I would call my Legal Counsel to see what loan instruments (it is
essentially a loan, after all) can be hammered out, how collection can be
enforced, what you must do to legally charge interest within the bounds of
your state's usury laws, how to word the loan agreement, your potential
exposure if the client does flat-line (more on that below), etc.  Then I
would attach the legal fees you incurred to the cost of loaning the value of
your parlayed billings.

Be certain to include any penalty clause in the agreement in case payment
does not come forth, so instead of getting just a flat piece of equity it
would be an increased percentage of equity.  The more you flex in repayment,
the higher your level of equity involvement.  Of course, having equity in a
company that could flat-line on you may not be a good idea.  But if you help
them out with their cash crunch, and they over-float your loan to them,
you ought to get a bit more in value back for their increased value of
getting the added float from you.  That seems less harsh than calling it a
penalty for not paying on time, eh?

I would also consider how busy I was at the moment.  If you need additional
work it may be worth the toss of the coin.  If you are buried then it may
not make sense to take the risk.  I would have to take into consideration,
as you did, the past relationship.

In my particular case I would also have to take into consideration a
multi-year relationship I had engaged in where a company I was providing
commercial services to filed for bankruptcy on 12/31/2006 (their market went
flat, direct mail for mortgage companies).  That left me on the hook for
$2,500, and an associate for $5,000.  I had the opportunity to exchange
money owed for equity in a partnership.  Luckily I opted to not do that,
otherwise it is possible his creditors could have come after me despite the
credit being pre-Gil or not.  Whether they could have legally collected
from me or not is not so much the issue.  It would have been more a matter
of the grief and expense of fending off an assault to begin with.

Good luck!

Gil



 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Ted Roche
 Sent: Monday, January 29, 2007 4:06 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [NF] Extending credit to clients?


 I had a client I've worked with before approach me for a follow-on
 project. They're strapped for cash at the moment, but had been perfect
 with payments on time in previous project that lasted 10 months.
 They'd like to defer some of the costs of development for a period,
 which I can sympathize with, but I'm not a bank and am fairly naive
 over the terms offered. Anyone have an opinion (ha! In this crowd, has
 anyone got an opinion -- what a funny guy!) on whether this is ever a
 good idea or gotches on these terms:

 Time billable at $X.00 / hour

 Compensation split

 One-third = cash payable monthly NET 30
 Two-thirds = convertible, unsecured 90-day note at Prime + 3%

 Each 90 days, client will pay interest due and roll note over for
 another 90 days or offer the choice of the following options

  - payment in full of all principal and interest due
  - conversion to equity at the rate of $XXk owed = 1 % equity (or fraction
 thereof)

 I don't think it's such a good idea to get into the loan business
 myself. But I'd welcome comments if someone has done this with clients
 to hear how it worked out. The red flags for me include unsecured,
 options appear to be at the client's discretion (getting the client to
 clarify the options here) and conversion to a minority shareholder.
 Obviously, if the business goes Google, that could be gigabux, but the
 reality is that's it's more likely pennies on the dollar, or
 nothing...


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RE: [NF] Extending credit to clients?

2007-01-29 Thread mrgmhale
 If
 they need a
 loan then get one from the bank.

They may be too far tapped to get further cash from a traditional lending
institution. The easiest source of cash for any company is to refrain from
paying their bills timely.  I know many car dealerships that had to do that
in the late 70s, and mid 80s.  Some are doing it now, and one client of mine
is impacting me a bit by $550/month.  Not a big deal, but I know the cash
just is not there so I leave them alone.  The fees are based on a monthly
recurring license, so my loss is passive opportunity income, not income
based productive time displacing a paying opportunity.  When they get
through it I know they will remember I never hammered them.  They always
paid timely in the past, and have been good to me over the past 5 years.  If
they do not make it, well hammering would not have done any good anyway.
Life is too short...

Gil

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 I extend credit to one client - but not intentionally!!!  They're
 b*( awful
 payers but always pay up in the end; they have to as they rely on me too
 much.

 My immediate reaction would be to avoid it like the plague.  If
 they need a
 loan then get one from the bank.

 John Weller
 01380 723235
 07976 393631
 
  I had a client I've worked with before approach me for a follow-on
  project. They're strapped for cash at the moment, but had been perfect
  with payments on time in previous project that lasted 10 months.
  They'd like to defer some of the costs of development for a period,
  which I can sympathize with, but I'm not a bank and am fairly naive
  over the terms offered. Anyone have an opinion (ha! In this crowd, has
  anyone got an opinion -- what a funny guy!) on whether this is ever a
  good idea or gotches on these terms:
 



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Re: [NF] Medical insurance

2007-01-29 Thread Chet Gardiner
My job in '03 was lost to India...best pay I ever had for a j.o.b.



MB Software Solutions wrote:

Kristyne McDaniel wrote:
  

The fine print was on the company's web site, and not in the stuff I got on
'separation' day. I printed it to a PDF to save it. The conversion to the
retirement medical plan was restricted to those that were involuntarily laid
off, and did not apply to folks that quit. Since my job was farmed out to
India, I meet the requirements.
  



Ah, now I can say I personally know of someone who's job was lost to 
India.  Sad, but now true.  Good luck, Kris.

  



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Re: [NF] Extending credit to clients?

2007-01-29 Thread Chet Gardiner
I see no problem if you feel that you can trust this client.

My 2nd to last major client had me extending him credit (to the tune of 
over $11,500 in 6 weeks) by crying cash flow problems but didn't bother 
to tell me he wasn't going to pay...  That's not someone you want to 
extend any more credit ... and I didn't... :-)



Ted Roche wrote:

I had a client I've worked with before approach me for a follow-on
project. They're strapped for cash at the moment, but had been perfect
with payments on time in previous project that lasted 10 months.
They'd like to defer some of the costs of development for a period,
which I can sympathize with, but I'm not a bank and am fairly naive
over the terms offered. Anyone have an opinion (ha! In this crowd, has
anyone got an opinion -- what a funny guy!) on whether this is ever a
good idea or gotches on these terms:

Time billable at $X.00 / hour


  



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Re: [NF] Extending credit to clients?

2007-01-29 Thread Matthew Jarvis
Ted Roche wrote:
 I had a client I've worked with before approach me for a follow-on
 project. They're strapped for cash at the moment, but had been perfect
 with payments on time in previous project that lasted 10 months.
 They'd like to defer some of the costs of development for a period,
 which I can sympathize with, but I'm not a bank and am fairly naive
 over the terms offered. Anyone have an opinion (ha! In this crowd, has
 anyone got an opinion -- what a funny guy!) on whether this is ever a
 good idea or gotches on these terms:
 
 Time billable at $X.00 / hour
 
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What's your feeling on the scope of the project? $2k? $10k? $100k?

If it's small enough you can miss the $ if it doesn't show, then that 
would mean just going for it since risk/loss is small...

If it's a big project, and that time/money vanishes, and yet you lost 
that opportunity to be making that $$$ from PAYING clients, then of 
course you are hosed...

I'd consider scoping the project and putting a cap on how much in the 
hole they can go before work stops or you get the CEO's luxury car, or...

Also, I think there's a document you can file that puts you first in 
line in case of certain types of bankruptcy... of course, by this time 
you may be the 100th entity first in line, but at least you are a step 
ahead of anyone that didn't file the doc...

The more credit you extend them, the more you risk to lose by walking 
away later, then you extend them some more, then you can go in the 
toilet real quick that way...


Matthew S. Jarvis
IT Manager
Bike Friday - Performance that Packs.
www.bikefriday.com
541/687-0487 x140
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Re: [NF] Extending credit to clients?

2007-01-29 Thread Sales Info
Ted,

Can your client pay you by credit card? Plastic is EASY to get. In the
past, I have paid contractors by credit card in a cash flow crunch. I
would have no problems expecting the same treatment from my clients. An
alternative to credit cards might be to lease them your services (or the
software you're developing for them) using a 3rd party leasing company.
This would allow your customer to spread a year of payments over 2 or
more years.

Let us know what strategy you come up with.

Malcolm


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Re: [NF] Extending credit to clients?

2007-01-29 Thread Malcolm Greene
Ted,

Can your client pay you by credit card? Plastic is EASY to get. In the
past, I have paid contractors by credit card in a cash flow crunch. I
would have no problems expecting the same treatment from my clients. An
alternative to credit cards might be to lease them your services (or the
software you're developing for them) using a 3rd party leasing company.
This would allow your customer to spread a year of payments over 2 or
more years.

Let us know what strategy you come up with.

Malcolm


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Re: [OT] Deaths since the Iraq war -- on our soil

2007-01-29 Thread Ricardo Aráoz
john harvey wrote:
 I've done my time fixing the world, or so I thought (32 years of Policing).
 I'm going back to the world fixing business some time in the next week or
 so.

Now that's the spirit! I totally agree with you. You should go back to
clubbing your fellow citizens and leave other countries alone. Good for you!

 
 As for religion, I don't beat people over the head with my Bible, but I
 don't mind pointing out the irony of things like this.
 

You mean the irony of opposing abortion and at the same time opposing
the use of tax payer's money to protect, feed and educate those same
kids? The irony of saving them from a quick death in order to kill them
through hunger and drugs?

 John
 


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Re: [OT] Deaths since the Iraq war -- on our soil

2007-01-29 Thread Ricardo Aráoz
Michael Madigan wrote:
 1.  It's murder
 2.  Why don't we allow parents to kill their 1yo kids?
 3.  Most abortions are by women who don't want to be
 inconvenienced, not those who can't have the child.
 4.  There are plenty of adoption options
 5.  There are plenty of public assistance options for
 first time offenders.
 6.  We push our personal beliefs on people all the
 time, why not to save the life of a child?
 7.  God will not only punish the aborting parents, but
 will also punish the legislatures that allow it, the
 people who vote for pro-abortion candidates, and those
 who stand idly by and say and do nothing.
 

So it follows you're going to hell on account of the countless murders
of your country I think I'll convert and go to heaven then.

 
 --- Justin Darnell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Almost five million aborted fetuses?  Do you want
 your taxes raised to
 take care of them in foster homes?  Oh the hard
 decisions a
 Compassionate Conservative must make.

 I honestly don't support abortions, but do you
 BELIEVE that you will
 be held responsible in your version of heaven or
 hell for the mistakes
 others have made?  Why push your personal life and
 beliefs on others?
 Everyone answers for themselves in the end...

 Justin

 On 1/28/07, john harvey [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
 Oh they aren't THAT bad!

 John

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
 Of Michael Madigan
 Sent: Sunday, January 28, 2007 2:32 PM
 To: ProFox Email List
 Subject: RE: [OT] Deaths since the Iraq war -- on
 our soil
 That is true.  Do Democrats even have a soul?


 --- john harvey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 The good thing about these abortions is that
 most of
 them are democrats!G

 John

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
 Of Kristyne McDaniel
 Sent: Sunday, January 28, 2007 1:51 PM
 To: 'ProFox Email List'
 Subject: RE: [OT] Deaths since the Iraq war --
 on
 our soil

 Helio,

 ...  It is estimated that up to 50% of all
 fertilized eggs
 die and are lost
 (aborted) spontaneously, usually before the
 woman
 knows she
 is pregnant.
 Perhaps Madigan and Pete should go dumpster
 diving
 for freshly discarded
 feminine products to see if there are any
 fertilized
 eggs they can rescue.

 I hear womb transplants are in test, and
 artificial
 wombs are being
 researched. Once we are good to go we can outfit
 these guys with their own
 wombs so they can rescue at least one unwanted
 embryo each year.

 Kristyne McDaniel




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Re: [OT] Deaths since the Iraq war -- on our soil

2007-01-29 Thread Ricardo Aráoz
john harvey wrote:
 Personally, I wouldn't mind if the US and some of the other countries banded
 together and rid the earth of the terrorist dictators. That's a slippery
 slope though and a task that is daunting to say the least. I'd like to see
 the leaders of the African nations that have starved their own people to
 death, stolen the billions in relief that has been sent to them, etc, but
 you can't fix the entire world. If they happen to fly an airplane or two
 into some of our cities, then I'd be for nuking their country.( I guess you
 can say I'm a zero tolerance kind of guy when it comes to terrorists).
 

That must be the logic implant Mike was talking about. A terrorist kills
innocent people in your country and you go to another country and kill
millions of innocent civilians, cool.
Those leaders of African nations have been able to starve their own
people to death because they've been helped by American and European
banks and multinationals. Who do you think give high interest loans to
these tyrants so that they may steal them and put them away? Who do you
think use this lever to get all the money and natural resources from
those countries?

 In the next week or so, I am taking over the day-to-day operation of the
 Memphis Police Department's Real Time Crime Center and Crime Analysis
 Units.

Good, if a crook kills someone then go find out where he lives and kill
everyone in his neighborhood (please don't spare babies, just like a nuke).

 So, I'll be doing my part again. I can't wait to get to work, as I've
 already got several hundred arrests lined up and ready to give out to the
 street officers.  
 
 John
 
 


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Re: [OT] Deaths since the Iraq war -- on our soil

2007-01-29 Thread Ricardo Aráoz
Michael Madigan wrote:
 You compare the execution of Saddam Hussein, a man who
 has killed over a million Iraqis, some by being gassed
 with chemical weapons, some by being thrown off
 buildings, some by being thrown into shredders,  to
 aborting an innocent baby in the womb?  Saddam had a
 long trial, was able to face his accusers, had many
 lawyers, was found guilty under the laws of Iraq, was
 given a death sentence, and was executed humanely.  A
 baby, on the other hand, has no trial, isn't given any
 lawyers, can't face its accusers, and is executed by
 being sucked out or cut up.  Sure, that's a good
 comparison. 
 

Which part of Thou shall not kill don't you understand?

 I've never supported killing abortion doctors and
 nearly 99.999 percent of all pro-life people don't
 support it either.   
 
 Try again.
 
 
 
 
 
 --- Justin Darnell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 I take issue most with your number 7.

 I guess you've talked to God and he's told you the
 names of all those
 people that will be punished for their complacency. 
 Besides, who are
 you to determine what complacent is.  The whole idea
 is a slippery
 slope.  If you need to defend the children, and
 you're charged by God,
 are you the type of person who would kill a doctor
 performing
 abortions, or blow up a clinic?  I mean, your God
 did tell you to
 protect the childrenright?  You're NOT out
 everyday trying to stop
 abortions?  Complacent complacent.

 And let's look at number 1.  You support murdering
 Saddam, but not
 fetuses?  If killing fetuses is murder we need to
 recognize that
 murdering a conscious larger clump of cells is
 murder too.

 J



 On 1/28/07, Michael Madigan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
 Darnell, which one of my truths don't you agree
 with?

 --- Justin Darnell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Madigan, this is why people can't have
 meaningful
 conversations with
 you.  You believe in moral absolutes.  You
 believe
 you can't be wrong
 and there are no gray areas.  Sounds like  any
 other
 brand of
 religious extremism to me.

 In order to have a reasonable debate you need to
 have some amount of humility.

 J

 On 1/28/07, Michael Madigan
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
 1.  It's murder
 2.  Why don't we allow parents to kill their
 1yo
 kids?
 3.  Most abortions are by women who don't want
 to
 be
 inconvenienced, not those who can't have the
 child.
 4.  There are plenty of adoption options
 5.  There are plenty of public assistance
 options
 for
 first time offenders.
 6.  We push our personal beliefs on people all
 the
 time, why not to save the life of a child?
 7.  God will not only punish the aborting
 parents,
 but
 will also punish the legislatures that allow
 it,
 the
 people who vote for pro-abortion candidates,
 and
 those
 who stand idly by and say and do nothing.


 --- Justin Darnell [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
 Almost five million aborted fetuses?  Do you
 want
 your taxes raised to
 take care of them in foster homes?  Oh the
 hard
 decisions a
 Compassionate Conservative must make.

 I honestly don't support abortions, but do
 you
 BELIEVE that you will
 be held responsible in your version of
 heaven or
 hell for the mistakes
 others have made?  Why push your personal
 life
 and
 beliefs on others?
 Everyone answers for themselves in the
 end...
 Justin

 On 1/28/07, john harvey
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
 Oh they aren't THAT bad!

 John

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
 Of Michael Madigan
 Sent: Sunday, January 28, 2007 2:32 PM
 To: ProFox Email List
 Subject: RE: [OT] Deaths since the Iraq
 war --
 on
 our soil
 That is true.  Do Democrats even have a
 soul?

 --- john harvey
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
 The good thing about these abortions is
 that
 most of
 them are democrats!G

 John

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
 Behalf
 Of Kristyne McDaniel
 Sent: Sunday, January 28, 2007 1:51 PM
 To: 'ProFox Email List'
 Subject: RE: [OT] Deaths since the Iraq
 war
 --
 on
 our soil

 Helio,

 ...  It is estimated that up to 50%
 of
 all
 fertilized eggs
 die and are lost
 (aborted) spontaneously, usually
 before
 the
 woman
 knows she
 is pregnant.
 Perhaps Madigan and Pete should go
 dumpster
 diving
 for freshly discarded
 feminine products to see if there are
 any
 fertilized
 eggs they can rescue.

 I hear womb transplants are in test, and
 artificial
 wombs are being
 researched. Once we are good to go we
 can
 outfit
 these guys with their own
 wombs so they can rescue at least one
 unwanted
 embryo each year.

 Kristyne McDaniel




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Re: [OT] Deaths since the Iraq war -- on our soil

2007-01-29 Thread Ricardo Aráoz
john harvey wrote:
 Murder is the UNLAWFUL taking of a human life, by another, with malice
 aforethought.
 
 Killing Saddam wasn't murder, it was a lawful execution.
 

Then if the law allows abortion they would also be lawful executions?


 John
 
 
 And let's look at number 1.  You support murdering Saddam, but not
 fetuses?  If killing fetuses is murder we need to recognize that
 murdering a conscious larger clump of cells is murder too.
 
 J
 


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Re: Refresh all open forms

2007-01-29 Thread Eugene Vital
Garry Bettle wrote:
 Howdy all,

 I'm testing a form, which contains an instance of IE.  What I'd like
 to do is to run several instances of this form - each with a different
 webpage loaded - and refresh them all at once.

 Does anyone know of a quick way to refresh every open form?

FOR EACH oFrm as Form IN _screen.Forms
oFrm.Refresh()
ENDFOR




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Re: [OT] Deaths since the Iraq war -- on our soil

2007-01-29 Thread Ricardo Aráoz
Michael Madigan wrote:
 Killing Saddam isn't murder.  You can say it all you
 want, but it isn't.  
 
 

You see! The logic implant at it's highest!

 
 
 --- Justin Darnell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 I made the comparison to say that murder is murder.

 Oh, I see, your God celebrates when you kill SOME of
 his children...

 On 1/28/07, Michael Madigan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
 Now John, there you go with the moral absolutes
 again.
  I mean, come on, there's no right and wrong, just
 gray areas.  Killing a baby is murder and so is
 killing Saddam Hussein.

 You can't make this stuff up.

 Liberalism is a mental disorder.



 --- john harvey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Murder is the UNLAWFUL taking of a human life,
 by
 another, with malice
 aforethought.

 Killing Saddam wasn't murder, it was a lawful
 execution.

 John


 And let's look at number 1.  You support
 murdering
 Saddam, but not
 fetuses?  If killing fetuses is murder we need
 to
 recognize that
 murdering a conscious larger clump of cells is
 murder too.

 J




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RE: Refresh all open forms

2007-01-29 Thread john harvey
Give each form a name when you create it, then drill down the object.

John

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Subject: Refresh all open forms

Howdy all,

I'm testing a form, which contains an instance of IE.  What I'd like
to do is to run several instances of this form - each with a different
webpage loaded - and refresh them all at once.

Does anyone know of a quick way to refresh every open form?

Cheers,

Garry

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RE: [NF] Extending credit to clients?

2007-01-29 Thread john harvey
I got one of those. He pays, but it's like getting a root canal if I try to
get him to catch up. Oh well, I just tack a little on it for the carrying
charge.

John

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I extend credit to one client - but not intentionally!!!  They're b*( awful
payers but always pay up in the end; they have to as they rely on me too
much.

My immediate reaction would be to avoid it like the plague.  If they need a
loan then get one from the bank.

John Weller
01380 723235
07976 393631

 I had a client I've worked with before approach me for a follow-on
 project. They're strapped for cash at the moment, but had been perfect
 with payments on time in previous project that lasted 10 months.
 They'd like to defer some of the costs of development for a period,
 which I can sympathize with, but I'm not a bank and am fairly naive
 over the terms offered. Anyone have an opinion (ha! In this crowd, has
 anyone got an opinion -- what a funny guy!) on whether this is ever a
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RE: [NF] Extending credit to clients?

2007-01-29 Thread Michael Madigan
Wow, this is a tough call.  I would at least get paid
weekly what you can't afford to eat.  In my case it
would be 50%.

So if my rate is $90.00, I would want $45.00 an hour
at the end of each week, that is if I could afford to
do it.  

We've all worked 100% blood, sweat and tears on a
project, billing no other projects during that time,
and wind up waiting to get paid.  That is painful.


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[OT] McCain - the Republican Hillary

2007-01-29 Thread Ed Leafe
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ioy90nF2anI

Another potentially solid candidate who caved in.


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Re: FPW 2.6 Report Font

2007-01-29 Thread vbiersch
yoy have to use the foxfont and it needs to be installed properly in the font 
section on the target machine

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From:  Kent Belan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subj:  FPW 2.6 Report Font
Date:  Mon Jan 29, 2007 3:20 pm
Size:  867 bytes
To:  ProFox Email List profox@leafe.com

Hello,
I have to work on an old FPW 2.6 program and make changes to a report.
It uses very basic code:
set console off
set print font 'COURIER',8
set printer on
? 'Report Header'
?
? 'More report stuff'
set printer off
set printer to
set console on

I need to be able to change the font to a fixed length font with 8 points.
It is printing a proportial font and I need a fixed font 
Any ideas?
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RE: [NF] Medical insurance

2007-01-29 Thread Stephen the Cook
Kristyne McDaniel  wrote:
 Michael,
 
 Ah, now I can say I personally know of someone who's job was lost to
 India.  Sad, but now true.  Good luck, Kris.
 
 Yup, I'm one of the statistics now. But I got severance and
 unemployment and a reprieve while the house is under construction (no
 mortgage payments), and now I have a new contract with an old client.
 
 Other than losing a little money over the last few months, everything
 is fine. :-) 

I just heard that we have EDS coming into IP for some outsource work. I have
no idea how they, IP, can think that they can work within off site
organization.  They can't produce any documentation from one group of
business analysts to coders.  Everything takes a face to face meeting to
share the knowledge.  

When you meet with the BA, they have to ask up chain to get an answer.


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RE: [NF] Handy way to send someone a file without emailing it.

2007-01-29 Thread Stephen the Cook
Alan Bourke  wrote:
 On Mon, 29 Jan 2007 07:15:30 -0500, Eugene Vital
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 said:
 
 Just curious but do people who use services like this worry about
 security?
 
 Absolutely, which is why I would package whatever it was in an
 encrypted self-extracting WinRAR exe. --

I see this as a great way to avoid getting caught in discovery when the
attorneys come in.  

Say your going to fire Joe and Jean and your stating facts about them.  Now
those facts can't be used against you because they are not in email.




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Re: Protect VFP source code

2007-01-29 Thread Chester Friesen
MB Software Solutions wrote:
 What industry or what kind of app, Chester, if I may ask?
Well, I guess industry may not be the correct word. It is for 
gymkhana events. They have a complicated method of calculating points 
for the various events. They enter the rider/horse combinations, event 
data, and at the event the times for each run. The app calculates the 
points and computes the place ratings. Previously they used a 
spreadsheet with macros, looked like a tremendous amount of work and 
time consuming. I modified it some for the state championship shows, 
where they used it also.

Regards,
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RE: [NF] Medical insurance

2007-01-29 Thread vbiersch
I got called back to vegas for a similar situation

they actually do a good job asking the right questions

however that said it is real hard for them to come in to  a turf war and get 
the true scenario as usually the business stakeholders will send a yes man 
because in their mind they are too busy to be bothered by such unimportant stuff

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Date:  Mon Jan 29, 2007 8:01 pm
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Kristyne McDaniel  wrote:
 Michael,
 
 Ah, now I can say I personally know of someone who's job was lost to
 India.  Sad, but now true.  Good luck, Kris.
 
 Yup, I'm one of the statistics now. But I got severance and
 unemployment and a reprieve while the house is under construction (no
 mortgage payments), and now I have a new contract with an old client.
 
 Other than losing a little money over the last few months, everything
 is fine. :-) 

I just heard that we have EDS coming into IP for some outsource work. I have
no idea how they, IP, can think that they can work within off site
organization.  They can't produce any documentation from one group of
business analysts to coders.  Everything takes a face to face meeting to
share the knowledge.  

When you meet with the BA, they have to ask up chain to get an answer.


Stephen Russell
DBA / .Net Developer

Memphis TN 38115
901.246-0159

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can do them absolutely no good. ---Unknown

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Re: [NF] Medical insurance

2007-01-29 Thread MB Software Solutions
Stephen the Cook wrote:
 I just heard that we have EDS coming into IP for some outsource work. I have
 no idea how they, IP, can think that they can work within off site
 organization.  They can't produce any documentation from one group of
 business analysts to coders.  Everything takes a face to face meeting to
 share the knowledge.  

 When you meet with the BA, they have to ask up chain to get an answer.
   

Who's IP ?

Sounds like a recipe for disaster.

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Re: Protect VFP source code

2007-01-29 Thread MB Software Solutions
Chester Friesen wrote:
 MB Software Solutions wrote:
   
 What industry or what kind of app, Chester, if I may ask?
 
 Well, I guess industry may not be the correct word. It is for 
 gymkhana events. They have a complicated method of calculating points 
 for the various events. They enter the rider/horse combinations, event 
 data, and at the event the times for each run. The app calculates the 
 points and computes the place ratings. Previously they used a 
 spreadsheet with macros, looked like a tremendous amount of work and 
 time consuming. I modified it some for the state championship shows, 
 where they used it also.
   

Then that'd be the sports industry.  g

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