VFP9 autodownload

2007-04-26 Thread Sytze de Boer
Someone once helped me with a neat routine so that my client can click
a button in my app and take you straight to a specified website.

This has really helped me where I want the client to do an update to
my application.
I want to take this a step further.
The web page has (say) 5 files they can choose from.
So, to eliminate downloading the wrong file,

can I get the client to click inside the app which will:

1 Jump them to the correct website
2  AND locate the specified file
3  AND begin the download process
without any user intervention/clicking requirement

Sytze


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Re: Emulate Auto Fit from Excel

2007-04-26 Thread Sytze de Boer
I queried this about a year ago I think and never received much response.
If you ever figure this out, please let me know

Sytze
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On 4/25/07, Chris Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I am converting a excel spreadsheet to a report layout.  In excel the Auto
> Fit feature was used to make sure the information always fitted (or made use
> of) the space available.
>
> Is it possible to do this on a report in VFP9, report listener maybe ?
>
> TIA
>
> Chris.
>
>
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Re: [OT] Signs of the Times

2007-04-26 Thread Robert Calco

On Apr 27, 2007, at 12:48 AM, Pete Theisen wrote:

> On Friday 27 April 2007 12:27 am, Robert Calco wrote:
>> Incidentally the degree to which Democrats have managed to transfer
>> their collective neuroses entirely to one person -- the person of
>> George W. Bush -- is truly a mass-psychological phenomenon. It
>> eclipses even the good ol' days of Clinton bashing, which I fondly
>> recall. I mean, I never hated the man to the core of my being
>
> Hi Bob!
>
> I did. I can't abide it when a man cheats on his wife. He is  
> basically taking
> twice his share of the women, while I (and many other men) don't  
> have one
> woman he has two.

Paradoxically, I might understand your passion if I believed Hillary!  
was heterosexual

Also I think you hugely undercount how many women Bubba had...

;-)

- Bob

> I say internment to the adulterers, toss them in with the
> faggots.
> -- 
> Regards,
>
> Pete
> http://www.pete-theisen.com/
>
>
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Re: MSSQL database creation/modification/maintenancescripting/functions?

2007-04-26 Thread MB Software Solutions
Stephen the Cook wrote:
> Try www.red-gate.com  look for the SQL Compare.  There is a bundle that will
> put 3 apps of theirs together, SQL & Data compare as well as another that I
> can't remember it's name right now.
>   
Isn't that Rod Paddock's company?  His was red-something.

> I use it to keep 4 versions of the same db up to date and roll changes as
> needed.  Schema, procs are a snap to deal with.  
>
> Paid for by developer and not server.   
>   
Huh?  You're mixing fruits!  Did you mean to say "developer and not 
employer" ??


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Re: [OT] Signs of the Times

2007-04-26 Thread Robert Calco
>>> Can't fix it. What did they say? Surely it wasn't the outcry we
>>> have today, I would have remembered that!
>>
>> They were wholly behind him and sounded outright neo-conservative!
>
> Hi Bob!
>
> ... I think Leland knew
> what I meant LOL.

That should have been your first clue that what you said didn't make  
sense. :P

BTW Pete we have to get together some time, me you and Stephen Wolfe.  
(And anyone else who lives in the Tampa area and doesn't mind  
imbibing moderate quantities of properly chilled adult libations with  
radical republican machiavellian theocratic right wing neo- 
conservative one-party juggernauts.)

  ;)

- Bob

> -- 
> Regards,
>
> Pete
> http://www.pete-theisen.com/
>
>
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Re: [OT] Signs of the Times

2007-04-26 Thread Pete Theisen
On Friday 27 April 2007 12:27 am, Robert Calco wrote:
> Incidentally the degree to which Democrats have managed to transfer
> their collective neuroses entirely to one person -- the person of
> George W. Bush -- is truly a mass-psychological phenomenon. It
> eclipses even the good ol' days of Clinton bashing, which I fondly
> recall. I mean, I never hated the man to the core of my being

Hi Bob!

I did. I can't abide it when a man cheats on his wife. He is basically taking 
twice his share of the women, while I (and many other men) don't have one 
woman he has two. I say internment to the adulterers, toss them in with the 
faggots.
-- 
Regards,

Pete
http://www.pete-theisen.com/


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Re: Form Modifications

2007-04-26 Thread MB Software Solutions
Virgil Bierschwale wrote:
> Yep.
> I've managed projects like that before, so I did the honorable thing (in my
> opinion) and told them, you can't count on me to deliver this.
>
> I know when I lead teams before, I typically figured 90 days to get them up
> to speed on the environment alone, assuming their coding skills were good.
>   

Chamber of commerce, you say.do they have a budget for more than 30+ 
days?

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Re: [OT] Signs of the Times

2007-04-26 Thread Pete Theisen
On Thursday 26 April 2007 11:53 pm, Robert Calco wrote:
> >>> Well, the only ones complaining only complain when an R does what
> >>> the president is doing. C-man was all over Kosovo, rocket attacked Al
> >>> Qaeda in the desert and not a peep from the Ds.
> >>
> >> That's not entirely accurate. Fix your MP3 player and listen to the
> >> quotes I sent out in my 'Name Those Voices' thread
> >>
> >> They weren't exactly quiet.

> > Can't fix it. What did they say? Surely it wasn't the outcry we
> > have today, I would have remembered that!
>
> They were wholly behind him and sounded outright neo-conservative!

Hi Bob!

OK, I should have said not a *negative* peep from them. I think Leland knew 
what I meant LOL.
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Re: [OT] Signs of the Times

2007-04-26 Thread Michael Madigan
Bob,

They hate Bush because he believes that Jesus Christ
is his Lord and Savior.

Had Bush been an Atheist, there wouldn't be the hatred
for him that there is.



--- Robert Calco <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Incidentally the degree to which Democrats have
> managed to transfer  
> their collective neuroses entirely to one person --
> the person of  
> George W. Bush -- is truly a mass-psychological
> phenomenon. It  
> eclipses even the good ol' days of Clinton bashing,
> which I fondly  
> recall. I mean, I never hated the man to the core of
> my being, like  
> these people hate Dubya, I just found him absurd and
> embarrassing.  
> Hell I find Bush absurd and embarrassing, especially
> when attempting  
> to speak off the cuff on camera, but I don't think
> he's either stupid  
> or evil. And I never meditated on his potential
> assassination or  
> wished America would lose in Kosivo over my beliefs
> about his character.
> 
> Someone supposedly so stupid and so evil duped so
> many people who  
> consider themselves so smart and so righteous---how
> do they look  
> themselves in the mirror, I wonder?
> 
> Hate and lust for power ooze out of everything Reid
> says and Pelosi  
> does.
> 
> (Seriously---she'll go across the world to visit
> Bashir Assad, and  
> offer idly to visit with Adolf Amadinutjob---but
> doesn't have time to  
> meet General Patraeus before a vote basically
> telling him he's full  
> of sh*t?)
> 
> - Bob
> 
> On Apr 27, 2007, at 12:08 AM, Michael Madigan wrote:
> 
> > When the Islamofascists celebrated the Democratic
> > Victory in November, you know the Bush
> administration
> > did the right thing in invading Iraq.
> >
> >
> >
> > --- Robert Calco <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >> In all seriousness, that half our population has
> >> forgotten --
> >> literally forgotten -- our collective complicity
> in
> >> debating whether
> >> to invade Iraq not once, but twice, and accepting
> >> the argument of pre-
> >> emption (not "immanent threat" as some like to
> >> recast the past) as
> >> sufficient grounds to do what we did on a large
> >> BIPARTISAN basis
> >> means we're about due for another reminder what
> that
> >> was all about.
> >>
> >> Sad, but it's on its way. Get ready.
> >>
> >> - Bob
> >>
> >> On Apr 27, 2007, at 12:04 AM, Leland F. Jackson,
> CPA
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> What war?  The war on terrorism is not really a
> >> war that should
> >>> qualify
> >>> the president to claim war time powers, any more
> >> that the war on
> >>> drug is
> >>> a real war, or the war on poverty, etc.
> >>>
> >>> Regards,
> >>>
> >>> LelandJ
> >>>
> >>> Pete Theisen wrote:
>  On Thursday 26 April 2007 10:33 pm, Leland F.
> >> Jackson, CPA wrote:
> 
> > I don't think its legal to overthrow the US
> >> Constitutional form of
> > government by any means, if its against the
> >> wishes of the American
> > people.  As Bill Arnold would say, the
> American
> >> people have and are
> > being duped.  Overthrow of the American
> >> government by other mean
> > such as
> > treachery and deceit should also be illegal.
> >
> 
>  Hi Leland!
> 
>  You are wrong. The constitution itself provides
> >> an amendment
>  process, Article
>  V.
> 
>  The current whining, however, is over the
> >> administration's use of the
>  president's war powers. They never say anything
> >> when a D president
>  uses the
>  same power.
> 
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
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Re: [OT] Signs of the Times

2007-04-26 Thread Robert Calco
Incidentally the degree to which Democrats have managed to transfer  
their collective neuroses entirely to one person -- the person of  
George W. Bush -- is truly a mass-psychological phenomenon. It  
eclipses even the good ol' days of Clinton bashing, which I fondly  
recall. I mean, I never hated the man to the core of my being, like  
these people hate Dubya, I just found him absurd and embarrassing.  
Hell I find Bush absurd and embarrassing, especially when attempting  
to speak off the cuff on camera, but I don't think he's either stupid  
or evil. And I never meditated on his potential assassination or  
wished America would lose in Kosivo over my beliefs about his character.

Someone supposedly so stupid and so evil duped so many people who  
consider themselves so smart and so righteous---how do they look  
themselves in the mirror, I wonder?

Hate and lust for power ooze out of everything Reid says and Pelosi  
does.

(Seriously---she'll go across the world to visit Bashir Assad, and  
offer idly to visit with Adolf Amadinutjob---but doesn't have time to  
meet General Patraeus before a vote basically telling him he's full  
of sh*t?)

- Bob

On Apr 27, 2007, at 12:08 AM, Michael Madigan wrote:

> When the Islamofascists celebrated the Democratic
> Victory in November, you know the Bush administration
> did the right thing in invading Iraq.
>
>
>
> --- Robert Calco <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> In all seriousness, that half our population has
>> forgotten --
>> literally forgotten -- our collective complicity in
>> debating whether
>> to invade Iraq not once, but twice, and accepting
>> the argument of pre-
>> emption (not "immanent threat" as some like to
>> recast the past) as
>> sufficient grounds to do what we did on a large
>> BIPARTISAN basis
>> means we're about due for another reminder what that
>> was all about.
>>
>> Sad, but it's on its way. Get ready.
>>
>> - Bob
>>
>> On Apr 27, 2007, at 12:04 AM, Leland F. Jackson, CPA
>> wrote:
>>
>>> What war?  The war on terrorism is not really a
>> war that should
>>> qualify
>>> the president to claim war time powers, any more
>> that the war on
>>> drug is
>>> a real war, or the war on poverty, etc.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> LelandJ
>>>
>>> Pete Theisen wrote:
 On Thursday 26 April 2007 10:33 pm, Leland F.
>> Jackson, CPA wrote:

> I don't think its legal to overthrow the US
>> Constitutional form of
> government by any means, if its against the
>> wishes of the American
> people.  As Bill Arnold would say, the American
>> people have and are
> being duped.  Overthrow of the American
>> government by other mean
> such as
> treachery and deceit should also be illegal.
>

 Hi Leland!

 You are wrong. The constitution itself provides
>> an amendment
 process, Article
 V.

 The current whining, however, is over the
>> administration's use of the
 president's war powers. They never say anything
>> when a D president
 uses the
 same power.

>>>
>>>
>>>
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Re: [OT] Signs of the Times

2007-04-26 Thread Michael Madigan
When the Islamofascists celebrated the Democratic
Victory in November, you know the Bush administration
did the right thing in invading Iraq.



--- Robert Calco <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> In all seriousness, that half our population has
> forgotten --  
> literally forgotten -- our collective complicity in
> debating whether  
> to invade Iraq not once, but twice, and accepting
> the argument of pre- 
> emption (not "immanent threat" as some like to
> recast the past) as  
> sufficient grounds to do what we did on a large
> BIPARTISAN basis  
> means we're about due for another reminder what that
> was all about.
> 
> Sad, but it's on its way. Get ready.
> 
> - Bob
> 
> On Apr 27, 2007, at 12:04 AM, Leland F. Jackson, CPA
> wrote:
> 
> > What war?  The war on terrorism is not really a
> war that should  
> > qualify
> > the president to claim war time powers, any more
> that the war on  
> > drug is
> > a real war, or the war on poverty, etc.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > LelandJ
> >
> > Pete Theisen wrote:
> >> On Thursday 26 April 2007 10:33 pm, Leland F.
> Jackson, CPA wrote:
> >>
> >>> I don't think its legal to overthrow the US
> Constitutional form of
> >>> government by any means, if its against the
> wishes of the American
> >>> people.  As Bill Arnold would say, the American
> people have and are
> >>> being duped.  Overthrow of the American
> government by other mean  
> >>> such as
> >>> treachery and deceit should also be illegal.
> >>>
> >>
> >> Hi Leland!
> >>
> >> You are wrong. The constitution itself provides
> an amendment  
> >> process, Article
> >> V.
> >>
> >> The current whining, however, is over the
> administration's use of the
> >> president's war powers. They never say anything
> when a D president  
> >> uses the
> >> same power.
> >>
> >
> >
> >
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Re: [OT] Signs of the Times

2007-04-26 Thread Robert Calco
In all seriousness, that half our population has forgotten --  
literally forgotten -- our collective complicity in debating whether  
to invade Iraq not once, but twice, and accepting the argument of pre- 
emption (not "immanent threat" as some like to recast the past) as  
sufficient grounds to do what we did on a large BIPARTISAN basis  
means we're about due for another reminder what that was all about.

Sad, but it's on its way. Get ready.

- Bob

On Apr 27, 2007, at 12:04 AM, Leland F. Jackson, CPA wrote:

> What war?  The war on terrorism is not really a war that should  
> qualify
> the president to claim war time powers, any more that the war on  
> drug is
> a real war, or the war on poverty, etc.
>
> Regards,
>
> LelandJ
>
> Pete Theisen wrote:
>> On Thursday 26 April 2007 10:33 pm, Leland F. Jackson, CPA wrote:
>>
>>> I don't think its legal to overthrow the US Constitutional form of
>>> government by any means, if its against the wishes of the American
>>> people.  As Bill Arnold would say, the American people have and are
>>> being duped.  Overthrow of the American government by other mean  
>>> such as
>>> treachery and deceit should also be illegal.
>>>
>>
>> Hi Leland!
>>
>> You are wrong. The constitution itself provides an amendment  
>> process, Article
>> V.
>>
>> The current whining, however, is over the administration's use of the
>> president's war powers. They never say anything when a D president  
>> uses the
>> same power.
>>
>
>
>
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Re: [OT] Signs of the Times

2007-04-26 Thread Robert Calco

On Apr 26, 2007, at 11:44 PM, Pete Theisen wrote:

> On Thursday 26 April 2007 11:26 pm, Robert Calco wrote:
>> On Apr 26, 2007, at 11:24 PM, Pete Theisen wrote:
>>> Hi Leland!
>>>
>>> Well, the only ones complaining only complain when an R does what  
>>> the
>>> president is doing. C-man was all over Kosovo, rocket attacked Al
>>> Qaeda in
>>> the desert and not a peep from the Ds.
>>
>> Pete:
>>
>> That's not entirely accurate. Fix your MP3 player and listen to the
>> quotes I sent out in my 'Name Those Voices' thread
>>
>> They weren't exactly quiet.
>
> Hi Bob!
>
> Can't fix it. What did they say? Surely it wasn't the outcry we  
> have today, I
> would have remembered that!

They were wholly behind him and sounded outright neo-conservative!

- Bob

> -- 
> Regards,
>
> Pete
> http://www.pete-theisen.com/
>
>
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Re: [OT] More Evidence of Intelligent Life on Earth

2007-04-26 Thread Robert Calco
Leland ol' pal:

On Apr 27, 2007, at 12:35 AM, Leland F. Jackson, CPA wrote:

> Its good to have you back Bob, and to see you haven't lost a step  
> while
> away.  You're fully up to speed already, and its just your first  
> week back.

Life throws a lot of curves. Adaptability is the key. :)

>
> I enjoyed listening to the link you provided, (eg I never got the  
> video
> to work),  about the previous Democratic Administration's belief that
> Saddam had WMD, and I couldn't help but chuckle a little wondering if
> you are still looking for them.

I found them.

They are in charge of Congress now. :(

>
> Now you're tell me, and the Scientific community form 113 countries
> around the world, who just completed a 6 year study of global warming
> and climate change, that global warming is just a figment of our
> imagination, even though the esteem pannel of Scientist have
> statistically place a 90% probability that humans are responsible for
> global warming and climate change.

No, I'm saying the inference that CO2 is the cause is what requires a  
lot of make-believe to accept. It's sooner a symptom than the cause.  
And it sure as hell isn't a 'pollutant'. Science indeed! Furthermore  
the argument man can fix it by focusing on CO2 borders on lunacy.

First clue should be this: anything Al Gore promotes is by definition  
a pig-in-a-poke. (NAFTA included... and carbon offsets! Oh my Lord  
what a fraud! It's the modern secular equivalent to the Catholic  
Church's medieval practice of indulgences.)

The man hasn't made an honest argument in his life. That's quite an  
achievement---even for a politician.

>
> I've learned that trying to reason with you on issue you have made up
> your mind about is like beating my head against a brick wall.

I've learned that you should probably stop abusing the wall that way.  
It isn't helping your arguments either. ;)

> Trying to
> change people who are in denial is funny that way.  Welcome back,  
> and I
> look forward to some stimulating debates with you as the 2008  
> elections
> draw near.

Aye, and likewise. :)

- Bob

>
> Regards,
>
> LelandJ
>
>
> On 04/26/2007 Robert Calco wrote:
>>  Leland's capacity for ratiocination is startling even for an
>>  accountant. I simply don't run into such high quality specimens of
>>  non sequiturs and false inference, not to mention absurdity, even in
>>  all the daily 'team meetings' I endure in IT (there naturally the
>>  issue is quantity, not quality).
>
>
>
>
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Re: [OT] Signs of the Times

2007-04-26 Thread Pete Theisen
On Thursday 26 April 2007 11:26 pm, Robert Calco wrote:
> On Apr 26, 2007, at 11:24 PM, Pete Theisen wrote:
> > Hi Leland!
> >
> > Well, the only ones complaining only complain when an R does what the
> > president is doing. C-man was all over Kosovo, rocket attacked Al
> > Qaeda in
> > the desert and not a peep from the Ds.
>
> Pete:
>
> That's not entirely accurate. Fix your MP3 player and listen to the
> quotes I sent out in my 'Name Those Voices' thread
>
> They weren't exactly quiet.

Hi Bob!

Can't fix it. What did they say? Surely it wasn't the outcry we have today, I 
would have remembered that!
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Re: [OT] More Evidence of Intelligent Life on Earth

2007-04-26 Thread Leland F. Jackson, CPA
Its good to have you back Bob, and to see you haven't lost a step while 
away.  You're fully up to speed already, and its just your first week back.

I enjoyed listening to the link you provided, (eg I never got the video 
to work),  about the previous Democratic Administration's belief that 
Saddam had WMD, and I couldn't help but chuckle a little wondering if 
you are still looking for them. 

Now you're tell me, and the Scientific community form 113 countries 
around the world, who just completed a 6 year study of global warming 
and climate change, that global warming is just a figment of our 
imagination, even though the esteem pannel of Scientist have 
statistically place a 90% probability that humans are responsible for 
global warming and climate change.

I've learned that trying to reason with you on issue you have made up 
your mind about is like beating my head against a brick wall.  Trying to 
change people who are in denial is funny that way.  Welcome back, and I 
look forward to some stimulating debates with you as the 2008 elections 
draw near.

Regards,

LelandJ
 

On 04/26/2007 Robert Calco wrote:
>  Leland's capacity for ratiocination is startling even for an 
>  accountant. I simply don't run into such high quality specimens of 
>  non sequiturs and false inference, not to mention absurdity, even in 
>  all the daily 'team meetings' I endure in IT (there naturally the 
>  issue is quantity, not quality).




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Re: [OT] New Strider Knife

2007-04-26 Thread Pete Theisen
On Friday 27 April 2007 12:07 am, Leland F. Jackson, CPA wrote:
> http://www.stallionleather.com/

Hi Leland!

Interesting link, thanks. Don't have a PT 92 AR holster, though. I could get a 
holster for a regular PT 92 and reform it by soaking it and letting it dry on 
the gun, but I think I will look a little longer before I do that.
-- 
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Re: [OT] Signs of the Times

2007-04-26 Thread Robert Calco

On Apr 26, 2007, at 11:24 PM, Pete Theisen wrote:

>
> Hi Leland!
>
> Well, the only ones complaining only complain when an R does what the
> president is doing. C-man was all over Kosovo, rocket attacked Al  
> Qaeda in
> the desert and not a peep from the Ds.
>

Pete:

That's not entirely accurate. Fix your MP3 player and listen to the  
quotes I sent out in my 'Name Those Voices' thread

They weren't exactly quiet.

- Bob

> -- 
> Regards,
>
> Pete
> http://www.pete-theisen.com/
>
>
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Re: [OT] Name Those Voices

2007-04-26 Thread Robert Calco
The first link is an MP3 file and the other two are YouTube...

- bob

On Apr 26, 2007, at 11:02 PM, Pete Theisen wrote:

> On Thursday 26 April 2007 9:16 pm, Robert Calco wrote:
>
> Hi Bob!
>
> Crashes my audio. Must be a Winders only site/
>
>> http://tinyurl.com/38w4sy
>>
>> - - -
>>
>> A good exercise for people with short-term memory loss.
>>
>> For the hearing impaired, try the lip-sync version---can you read  
>> their
>> lips?
>>
>> - - -
>>
>> http://tinyurl.com/37pxtc
>>
>> And another version:
>>
>> http://tinyurl.com/yoccz9
>>
>> - Bob
>>
>>
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Re: [OT] Signs of the Times

2007-04-26 Thread Pete Theisen
On Friday 27 April 2007 12:04 am, Leland F. Jackson, CPA wrote:
> What war?  The war on terrorism is not really a war that should qualify
> the president to claim war time powers, any more that the war on drug is
> a real war, or the war on poverty, etc.

Hi Leland!

Well, the only ones complaining only complain when an R does what the 
president is doing. C-man was all over Kosovo, rocket attacked Al Qaeda in 
the desert and not a peep from the Ds.

> > On Thursday 26 April 2007 10:33 pm, Leland F. Jackson, CPA wrote:
> >> I don't think its legal to overthrow the US Constitutional form of
> >> government by any means, if its against the wishes of the American
> >> people.  As Bill Arnold would say, the American people have and are
> >> being duped.  Overthrow of the American government by other mean such as
> >> treachery and deceit should also be illegal.

> > You are wrong. The constitution itself provides an amendment process,
> > Article V.
> >
> > The current whining, however, is over the administration's use of the
> > president's war powers. They never say anything when a D president uses
> > the same power.
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Re: [OT] New Strider Knife

2007-04-26 Thread Leland F. Jackson, CPA
http://www.stallionleather.com/

Regards,

LelandJ

On 04/26/2007 Pete Theisen wrote:
>  Hi Leland!
>
>  Concealment, maybe an inside the belt job. Imagine carrying an 18 
round 9mm
>  for personal defense. It is even a little smaller than my .38 sixgun! 
Got a
>  link for Stallion?




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Re: [OT] Signs of the Times

2007-04-26 Thread Leland F. Jackson, CPA
What war?  The war on terrorism is not really a war that should qualify 
the president to claim war time powers, any more that the war on drug is 
a real war, or the war on poverty, etc.

Regards,

LelandJ

Pete Theisen wrote:
> On Thursday 26 April 2007 10:33 pm, Leland F. Jackson, CPA wrote:
>   
>> I don't think its legal to overthrow the US Constitutional form of
>> government by any means, if its against the wishes of the American
>> people.  As Bill Arnold would say, the American people have and are
>> being duped.  Overthrow of the American government by other mean such as
>> treachery and deceit should also be illegal.
>> 
>
> Hi Leland!
>
> You are wrong. The constitution itself provides an amendment process, Article 
> V.
>
> The current whining, however, is over the administration's use of the 
> president's war powers. They never say anything when a D president uses the 
> same power.
>   



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Re: [OT] New Strider Knife

2007-04-26 Thread Pete Theisen
On Thursday 26 April 2007 10:40 pm, Leland F. Jackson, CPA wrote:
> I got a holster for my 90-TWO over on Stallion Leather, for about
> $110.00.  What kind of holster do you want, (eg IWB, shoulder, pocket,
> ankle, duty, etc)

Hi Leland!

Concealment, maybe an inside the belt job. Imagine carrying an 18 round 9mm 
for personal defense. It is even a little smaller than my .38 sixgun! Got a 
link for Stallion?
-- 
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Re: [OT] More Evidence of Intelligent Life on Earth

2007-04-26 Thread Robert Calco
I just realized in the last few exchanges involving Leland how much I  
miss ProFox!

Leland's capacity for ratiocination is startling even for an  
accountant. I simply don't run into such high quality specimens of  
non sequiturs and false inference, not to mention absurdity, even in  
all the daily 'team meetings' I endure in IT (there naturally the  
issue is quantity, not quality).

BTW Leland I don't mean to throw your brain patterns into a blue  
screen but Mars' caps are melting rather quickly too. Go figure!

http://tinyurl.com/24k59w

Granted Dr. Madigan didn't author the article but I still think the  
source's credibility is sufficient to post on ProFox OT.

;)

- Bob

On Apr 26, 2007, at 10:55 PM, Pete Theisen wrote:

> On Thursday 26 April 2007 9:56 pm, Leland F. Jackson, CPA wrote:
>> Why are the glaciers of the arctic region melting at such an alarming
>> pace?  The glaciers were millions of year in building, and now  
>> they are
>> melting over a couple of human generations.  Sounds like something  
>> wrong
>> to me.
>
> Hi Leland!
>
> Why is it so chilly here in Sarasota even as I speak? 75F! It will  
> be 65 by
> morning! I know, the warmth I crave is up in ice qaeda melting  
> glaciers.
> -- 
> Regards,
>
> Pete
> http://www.pete-theisen.com/
>
>
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Re: [OT] Signs of the Times

2007-04-26 Thread Pete Theisen
On Thursday 26 April 2007 10:33 pm, Leland F. Jackson, CPA wrote:
> I don't think its legal to overthrow the US Constitutional form of
> government by any means, if its against the wishes of the American
> people.  As Bill Arnold would say, the American people have and are
> being duped.  Overthrow of the American government by other mean such as
> treachery and deceit should also be illegal.

Hi Leland!

You are wrong. The constitution itself provides an amendment process, Article 
V.

The current whining, however, is over the administration's use of the 
president's war powers. They never say anything when a D president uses the 
same power.
-- 
Regards,

Pete
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Re: [OT] Name Those Voices

2007-04-26 Thread Pete Theisen
On Thursday 26 April 2007 9:16 pm, Robert Calco wrote:

Hi Bob!

Crashes my audio. Must be a Winders only site/

> http://tinyurl.com/38w4sy
>
> - - -
>
> A good exercise for people with short-term memory loss.
>
> For the hearing impaired, try the lip-sync version---can you read their
> lips?
>
> - - -
>
> http://tinyurl.com/37pxtc
>
> And another version:
>
> http://tinyurl.com/yoccz9
>
> - Bob
>
>
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[OT] The Trouble with Islam

2007-04-26 Thread Michael Madigan
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Re: [OT] More Evidence of Intelligent Life on Earth

2007-04-26 Thread Pete Theisen
On Thursday 26 April 2007 9:56 pm, Leland F. Jackson, CPA wrote:
> Why are the glaciers of the arctic region melting at such an alarming
> pace?  The glaciers were millions of year in building, and now they are
> melting over a couple of human generations.  Sounds like something wrong
> to me.

Hi Leland!

Why is it so chilly here in Sarasota even as I speak? 75F! It will be 65 by 
morning! I know, the warmth I crave is up in ice qaeda melting glaciers.
-- 
Regards,

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Re: [OT] New Strider Knife

2007-04-26 Thread Pete Theisen
On Thursday 26 April 2007 9:48 pm, Leland F. Jackson, CPA wrote:
> If Kim's North Korea army is trained anywhere near a
> well as his body guards, we could be in a heap of trouble if we go in
> there.

Hi Leland!

If we should have to destroy that part of the Axis of Evil I think the most 
appropriate action would be a "nuclear accident" at their bomb facility. 
Martial art is inneffective against nuclear accidents.
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Re: [OT] This is classic

2007-04-26 Thread Robert Calco
>
> Glad you're back Bob...you're the light of the party..

Thanks Jean! It must have been dark times indeed, considering how  
glum my post was! ;)

Now that I'm settled into the new job and, unlike the previous one,  
it doesn't consume my entire existence, I have a little time for  
ProFox fun and amusement.

How have you been doing?

- Bob

>
> A+
> jml
>
>
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Re: [OT] New Strider Knife

2007-04-26 Thread Pete Theisen
On Thursday 26 April 2007 8:13 pm, Ricardo Aráoz wrote:
> Vince Teachout wrote:
> > Leland F. Jackson, CPA wrote:
> >> I
> >> recently added a new pocket knife as a member of my collection.   It is
> >> a Strider knife model "SnG Drop Point (Gen6) Folder".  It is my
> >> understanding Strider knives are the best.  Below are links to a few
> >> pictures.  The handgun on the left is my 90-TWO, and the handgun on the
> >> right is my PX4.
> >
> > Nothing says "Your worst nightmare, come to life" like a well-armed
> > CPA!  :-)
>
> Check the Wagner knife. Nice piece.
>
> http://www.officer.com/article/article.jsp?siteSection=3&id=33658

Hi Ricardo!

I have a number of knives in my kitchen drawer. However, I consider my guns 
the second line of defense, the first line being the well secured perimeter 
of my condo. In a defense situation I would consider a knife a very distant 
third line, but I do have knives.
-- 
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RE: Form Modifications

2007-04-26 Thread Virgil Bierschwale
Yep.
I've managed projects like that before, so I did the honorable thing (in my
opinion) and told them, you can't count on me to deliver this.

I know when I lead teams before, I typically figured 90 days to get them up
to speed on the environment alone, assuming their coding skills were good.


Virgil Bierschwale
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Virgil Bierschwale wrote:
> Thanks,
> Just got back from a chamber of commerce meeting, so I'll have to try it
> tomorrow if I still have a job.
> Let them know tonight that I can handle any type of typical database
stuff,
> 2.6 stuff, but I need more time to get up to speed on the OOP stuff.
> No problem building the forms, etc. from scratch, but I'm having a hell of
a
> time when they have "ONLY" custom classes that are up to the top of my
head
> in custom code that is linked to multiple systems with all of it being
> proprietary and no documentation.
>   
You're in deep doo-doo.  You sound like you've got a heck of a learning 
curve ahead of you.  Call if you get in a bind.


-- 
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RE: [OT] Signs of the Times

2007-04-26 Thread Michael Madigan
That's a good point.  Unfortunately most of the Left
want the United States to cease to exist in favor of
some Communist Utopia.  We see how well that's worked
in Cuba.


--- Virgil Bierschwale <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Its not that they are being duped.
> Its that people have a natural tendency to do
> "empire building", whether it
> be at work, or elsewhere and when they do that they
> surround themselves with
> like minded people, typically "yes men".
> 
> That's why I would much rather see organizations or
> groups made up of people
> that don't necessarily see eye to eye, BUT they
> agree on the final
> destination
> 
> Virgil Bierschwale
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> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
> Of Leland F. Jackson, CPA
> Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2007 9:34 PM
> To: ProFox Email List
> Subject: Re: [OT] Signs of the Times
> 
> I don't think its legal to overthrow the US
> Constitutional form of 
> government by any means, if its against the wishes
> of the American 
> people.  As Bill Arnold would say, the American
> people have and are 
> being duped.  Overthrow of the American government
> by other mean such as 
> treachery and deceit should also be illegal.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> LelandJ
> 
> Pete Theisen wrote:
> > On Thursday 26 April 2007 6:53 pm, Leland F.
> Jackson, CPA wrote:
> > 
> >   
> >> If the Bush Administration, the Neocons, and some
> members of the Radical
> >> Religious Righters were working toward a goal of
> establishing a new form
> >> of government for the "New American Century",
> what do you think the
> >> punishment should be?
> >> 
> >
> > Hi Leland!
> >
> > I think everything they have done and are doing is
> legal and if so, there 
> > should be no witch hunt to begin with, and
> certainly no punishment. It is 
> > legal to attempt to change the government by
> peaceful means.
> >
> >   
> >> You mean that you wish them (gasp) physical harm?
> As in "support peace or
> >> I'll kill you"?
> >> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [OT] New Strider Knife

2007-04-26 Thread Vince Teachout
Leland F. Jackson, CPA wrote:
> A knife, properly thrown by someone that has a strong throwing arm,  has 
> plenty of thrust.  Much like an arrow which can easily penetrate a sand 
> bag that would stop most bullets.  The arrow and knife have more mass 
> than most bullets, and the mass  is focuses on a small area of the knife 
> point with plenty of weight behind the point driving it into the target, 
> and with proper skill, a knife can be throw very accurately at close range.
>   
Yawbut, you can still miss, and hit or miss, you're knifeless.

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Re: Form Modifications

2007-04-26 Thread Vince Teachout
Virgil Bierschwale wrote:
> Thanks,
> Just got back from a chamber of commerce meeting, so I'll have to try it
> tomorrow if I still have a job.
> Let them know tonight that I can handle any type of typical database stuff,
> 2.6 stuff, but I need more time to get up to speed on the OOP stuff.
> No problem building the forms, etc. from scratch, but I'm having a hell of a
> time when they have "ONLY" custom classes that are up to the top of my head
> in custom code that is linked to multiple systems with all of it being
> proprietary and no documentation.
>   
You're in deep doo-doo.  You sound like you've got a heck of a learning 
curve ahead of you.  Call if you get in a bind.


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Re: [OT] New Strider Knife

2007-04-26 Thread Pete Theisen
On Thursday 26 April 2007 8:44 pm, Leland F. Jackson, CPA wrote:
> Here is a link with a little history to the Second Amendment to the
> Constitution:
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitu
>tion
>
> or
>
> http://tinyurl.com/an2ny

Hi Leland!

Wow!

What a resource.

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RE: Form Modifications

2007-04-26 Thread Virgil Bierschwale
Thanks,
Just got back from a chamber of commerce meeting, so I'll have to try it
tomorrow if I still have a job.
Let them know tonight that I can handle any type of typical database stuff,
2.6 stuff, but I need more time to get up to speed on the OOP stuff.
No problem building the forms, etc. from scratch, but I'm having a hell of a
time when they have "ONLY" custom classes that are up to the top of my head
in custom code that is linked to multiple systems with all of it being
proprietary and no documentation.

Not a problem with time, but I've only had about 20 hrs so far to devote to
it and I still haven't received my copy of VFP from the Microsoft ISV
program that I paid for, so I don't really have a practice area to play in.

Virgil Bierschwale
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-Original Message-
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Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2007 6:51 PM
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Subject: Re: Form Modifications

Virgil Bierschwale wrote:
> I keep getting this error message:
> "Cannot delete objects because some are members of a parent class"
>
> Here's the scenario.
> This company needs a new form, so I clone one (copy one), rename it and
> change all the values (grids, fields, etc.) like I would have done in the
> ole fp2.6 days..
>
> I'm beginning to believe this isn't possible in vfp9 and that I need to
read
> the books that I bought and learn the whole oop thing, but I haven't the
> time because they need it done tonight...
>
> Oh boy, going to be a long one.
>
>   

A couple of things:
If you look in the Other tab, you'll find the name of the Base Class.  
Open the base class, SAVE AS somethingElse, then Hack up the 
SomethingElse, and create a new form based on that.
Or, if it's only a few objects that need deleting, I just set there 
sizes to 1X1, and set visible = .f.

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RE: MSSQL database creation/modification/maintenancescripting/functions?

2007-04-26 Thread Stephen the Cook
Derek Kalweit <> wrote:
>> On MSSQL 2K you can right-click the database and chose "All Tasks >
>> Generate SQL Script..." to generate TSQL scripts. You can do this for
>> individual objects, too. Query Analyzer has similar functionality if
>> you left click an object in the object browser pane.
> 
> This can create a database creation script, but it can't create a
> database update script. I need an adaptable script that will detect
> the current state of the database(what fields, indexes, etc. are
> present), and update accordingly to the current version.   
> 
> Thanks.

Try www.red-gate.com  look for the SQL Compare.  There is a bundle that will
put 3 apps of theirs together, SQL & Data compare as well as another that I
can't remember it's name right now.

I use it to keep 4 versions of the same db up to date and roll changes as
needed.  Schema, procs are a snap to deal with.  

Paid for by developer and not server.   

Stephen Russell
DBA / .Net Developer

Memphis TN 38115
901.246-0159

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RE: [OT] Signs of the Times

2007-04-26 Thread Virgil Bierschwale
Its not that they are being duped.
Its that people have a natural tendency to do "empire building", whether it
be at work, or elsewhere and when they do that they surround themselves with
like minded people, typically "yes men".

That's why I would much rather see organizations or groups made up of people
that don't necessarily see eye to eye, BUT they agree on the final
destination

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Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2007 9:34 PM
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Subject: Re: [OT] Signs of the Times

I don't think its legal to overthrow the US Constitutional form of 
government by any means, if its against the wishes of the American 
people.  As Bill Arnold would say, the American people have and are 
being duped.  Overthrow of the American government by other mean such as 
treachery and deceit should also be illegal.

Regards,

LelandJ

Pete Theisen wrote:
> On Thursday 26 April 2007 6:53 pm, Leland F. Jackson, CPA wrote:
> 
>   
>> If the Bush Administration, the Neocons, and some members of the Radical
>> Religious Righters were working toward a goal of establishing a new form
>> of government for the "New American Century", what do you think the
>> punishment should be?
>> 
>
> Hi Leland!
>
> I think everything they have done and are doing is legal and if so, there 
> should be no witch hunt to begin with, and certainly no punishment. It is 
> legal to attempt to change the government by peaceful means.
>
>   
>> You mean that you wish them (gasp) physical harm? As in "support peace or
>> I'll kill you"?
>> 



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Re: [OT] New Strider Knife

2007-04-26 Thread Pete Theisen
On Thursday 26 April 2007 7:32 pm, Ed Leafe wrote:
> On Apr 26, 2007, at 8:19 PM, Leland F. Jackson, CPA wrote:
> > I think that close enough to being a member of a well regulated
> > Militia, even though I don't think the 2nd Amemdment to the
> > Constitution
> > hinges on the requirement of being a member of a well regulated
> > Militia.
>
>   I guess that they just threw that clause in there for no reason,
> then? What then is the purpose of the inclusion of the first clause
> of the 2nd Amendment?

Hi Ed!

It made perfect sense at the time. At that time the militia was considered all 
of the people.
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Re: [OT] New Strider Knife

2007-04-26 Thread Pete Theisen
On Thursday 26 April 2007 8:26 pm, Leland F. Jackson, CPA wrote:
> Here is an article on a recent Federal Court ruling regarding the 2nd
> Amendment, which received very little coverage for some reason.
>
> http://newsbusters.org/node/11334

Hi Leland!

I wonder what Ann Coulter would have to say about Mayor Adrian Fenty 
(D-Washington, DC), considering her not being able to talk about John Edwards 
LOL?
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Re: [OT] Bill Moyer's Buying the War show

2007-04-26 Thread Pete Theisen
On Thursday 26 April 2007 7:28 pm, Ricardo Aráoz wrote:
> Michael Madigan wrote:
> > Bill Moyers should be hung for treason.
>
> Spoken as a true member of the 'Free World'! (freedom of speech?)

Hi Ricardo!

And other members of those enjoying free speech are free to tell Moyers to 
shut up.
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Re: [OT] This is classic

2007-04-26 Thread Pete Theisen
On Thursday 26 April 2007 7:25 pm, Ricardo Aráoz wrote:

> I must point out when you are not
> answering to what I wrote, when you are changing the subject (however
> subtly).

Hi Ricardo!

Of course, you have never and would never do THAT!
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Re: [OT] New Strider Knife

2007-04-26 Thread Pete Theisen
On Thursday 26 April 2007 8:19 pm, Leland F. Jackson, CPA wrote:

>I don't think the 2nd Amemdment to the Constitution
> hinges on the requirement of being a member of a well regulated Militia.

Hi Leland!

Recent court decisions, and the Bush administration, agree with you. Isn't 
that a comfort?
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Re: [OT] New Strider Knife

2007-04-26 Thread Leland F. Jackson, CPA
A knife, properly thrown by someone that has a strong throwing arm,  has 
plenty of thrust.  Much like an arrow which can easily penetrate a sand 
bag that would stop most bullets.  The arrow and knife have more mass 
than most bullets, and the mass  is focuses on a small area of the knife 
point with plenty of weight behind the point driving it into the target, 
and with proper skill, a knife can be throw very accurately at close range.

Regards,

LelandJ


On 04/26/2007 Ricardo Aráoz wrote:
>  I always thought throwing a bad tactic. Not enough penetration power,
>  any leather garment may thwart the throw, and worse, you loose your knife.




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Re: [OT] This is classic

2007-04-26 Thread Pete Theisen
On Thursday 26 April 2007 7:18 pm, Ricardo Aráoz wrote:

> 'FRANCE' is not dangerous to the rest 
> >> of the world. Muslim youth riots are INTERNAL problems of the country
> >> and not a danger to the rest of the world.
> >
> > You are dangerously wrong. France is at least nominally part of the free
> > world, and if she is attacked from within or without, the whole free
> > world is also attacked.
> >
> > Even Argentina's security is diminished by internal trouble in France.
> > Isolationism only worked in the 5th century or so, if even then.
>
> Christ! Do you still believe in the Domino Theory?  
> 'free world'? 

Hi Ricardo!

Gotten you off of that atheist kick, have I? "Free world" is an English idiom 
often used by people of a certain age. I didn't say anything about the Domino 
Theory, but come to think of it . . .

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_World
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Domino_Theory
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Re: [OT] More Evidence of Intelligent Life on Earth

2007-04-26 Thread Ricardo Aráoz
Michael Madigan wrote:
> CO2 is an insignificant greenhouse gas.  Water vapor
> is much more significant.  How do we lower water vapor
> in the atmosphere?
> 

Whenever you start thinking and that white smoke comes out of your ears.

> 
> 
> --- Ricardo Aráoz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
>> Michael Madigan wrote:
>>> The fact remains that CO2 in the atmosphere is a
>>> trailing indicator.  The Oceans heat up then CO2
>> is
>>> released into the atmosphere, CO2 in the
>> atmosphere
>>> doesn't heat up the ocean.
>>>
>> And a gun won't kill you..
>>
>> It's the bullet, silly!
>>
>>
>>


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Re: [OT] More Evidence of Intelligent Life on Earth

2007-04-26 Thread Michael Madigan
Except the vast majority of scientist don't believe
it.  Only the scientists who make a living off the
junk science do.



--- "Leland F. Jackson, CPA" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

> You're right, I'm not qualified to speak on global
> warming, but I do 
> know enough to listen and trust the vast majority of
> the scientific 
> community who are tell me that we have a problem.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> LelandJ
> 
> Michael Madigan wrote:
> > So I guess you aren't qualified to speak about
> global
> > warming then.
> >
> >
> > --- "Leland F. Jackson, CPA"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > wrote:
> >
> >   
> >> Yeah, but I earned my CPA certificate, which is
> >> sitting on my wall.  
> >> Where is your Phd Diploma in physics?  LOL
> >>
> >>
> >> Michael Madigan wrote:
> >> 
> >>> You're welcome.
> >>>
> >>> --- "Leland F. Jackson, CPA"
> >>>   
> >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> 
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>   
> >>>   
>  Thanks for that science class Mr. Michael
>  
> >> Madigan,
> >> 
>  Phd physics.
> 
>  Regards,
> 
>  LelandJ
> 
>  On 04/26/2007 Michael Madigan wrote:
>  
>  
> >  The fact remains that CO2 in the atmosphere
> is
> >   
> >> a
> >> 
> >  trailing indicator.  The Oceans heat up then
> >   
> >> CO2
> >> 
> >   
> >   
>  is
>  
>  
> >  released into the atmosphere, CO2 in the
> >   
> >   
>  atmosphere
>  
>  
> >  doesn't heat up the ocean.
> >   
> >   
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Re: [OT] More Evidence of Intelligent Life on Earth

2007-04-26 Thread Michael Madigan
CO2 is an insignificant greenhouse gas.  Water vapor
is much more significant.  How do we lower water vapor
in the atmosphere?



--- Ricardo Aráoz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Michael Madigan wrote:
> > The fact remains that CO2 in the atmosphere is a
> > trailing indicator.  The Oceans heat up then CO2
> is
> > released into the atmosphere, CO2 in the
> atmosphere
> > doesn't heat up the ocean.
> > 
> 
> And a gun won't kill you..
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> It's the bullet, silly!
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Re: [OT] More Evidence of Intelligent Life on Earth

2007-04-26 Thread Leland F. Jackson, CPA
You're right, I'm not qualified to speak on global warming, but I do 
know enough to listen and trust the vast majority of the scientific 
community who are tell me that we have a problem.

Regards,

LelandJ

Michael Madigan wrote:
> So I guess you aren't qualified to speak about global
> warming then.
>
>
> --- "Leland F. Jackson, CPA" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>
>   
>> Yeah, but I earned my CPA certificate, which is
>> sitting on my wall.  
>> Where is your Phd Diploma in physics?  LOL
>>
>>
>> Michael Madigan wrote:
>> 
>>> You're welcome.
>>>
>>> --- "Leland F. Jackson, CPA"
>>>   
>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>   
>>>   
 Thanks for that science class Mr. Michael
 
>> Madigan,
>> 
 Phd physics.

 Regards,

 LelandJ

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>  The fact remains that CO2 in the atmosphere is
>   
>> a
>> 
>  trailing indicator.  The Oceans heat up then
>   
>> CO2
>> 
>   
>   
 is
 
 
>  released into the atmosphere, CO2 in the
>   
>   
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>   
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Re: [OT] More Evidence of Intelligent Life on Earth

2007-04-26 Thread Ricardo Aráoz
Michael Madigan wrote:
> The fact remains that CO2 in the atmosphere is a
> trailing indicator.  The Oceans heat up then CO2 is
> released into the atmosphere, CO2 in the atmosphere
> doesn't heat up the ocean.
> 

And a gun won't kill you..

It's the bullet, silly!




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Re: [OT] New Strider Knife

2007-04-26 Thread Ricardo Aráoz
Leland F. Jackson, CPA wrote:
> Boker looks like they make some nice knifes.
> 
> I hate the thought of hand to hand combat and would take extraordinary 
> mean to avoid it.

Might get messy, yes. But I'm more inclined to knives than guns. And if
I had to kill I think a knife would be more satisfactory. A knife is
silent, easy to carry and hide, very good for surprise attacks.

> 
> I took judo classes while stationed a Bergstrom AFB, Austin, Texas.  In 
> the first lesson, the class learned how to take a fall.  In the second 
> class we learned how to throw an opponent by kicking his legs out from 
> under him.  On the third class, we learned how to throw the opponent 
> over our right shoulder.  Also, on the third lesson we did some real 
> sparring, and I damn near whip the who class, taking on opponents one at 
> a time.  I won 13 matches straight.

Once got into a Judo tournament. Everybody had higher rank than me. But
I had to find a way. So I found out strangling was allowed. So in every
match I didn't care about being thrown but to bring the opponent down
with me. In the floor I knew what was going on and had that extra second
to strangle them. Finally a bloke saw through the strategy and pinned me
down and won. Got second place. Lesson: static strategies are not good.
Some other time I was attending a karate school. I was also banging the
head instructor's girl (she also did karate), good thing he never found
out (he was south american champion). But second in command did found
out, so he put me against three opponents. It was easy for a while
(applied a Musashi tactic against many opponents described in the Go Rin
no Sho, you maneuver them into a line and then they will be crashing (?)
 into each other), but the bastard let it go on and on. I eventually got
tired and started receiving blows. At one time I was against a wall and
the blokes stopped hitting me (they saw I was done for), the instructor
shouted at them telling them to hit me (in the street no one will stop).
Then I had to leave school, too dangerous.

>  Then some B52 pilot was able to 
> throw me and wouldn't let me up, so he won.  I was exhausted by then, 
> and didn't even know that being held down counted as a throw, (eg you 
> win a match by throwing you opponent twice, so the B52 pilot won by 
> throwing me and pinning me down for a period).  The instructor of the 
> class wanted to take me down to San Antonio to compete in a tournament, 
> but my boss wouldn't let me go, so that was the end of judo for me.
> 
> The Strider knife is great, but it amazingly light.  I haven't tried it 
> yet, but I don't think it would be a very good throwing knife.  Back in 
> my younger days, I could throw a knife pretty well, which would beat the 
> hell out of fighting hand to hand.

I always thought throwing a bad tactic. Not enough penetration power,
any leather garment may thwart the throw, and worse, you loose your knife.

> 
> I saw a video over on the Beretta forum on North Korea's Kim's body 
> guards.  Those guys are really good.  I wouldn't get into go hand to 
> hand with anyone like that, even if I had a knife and they didn't.  They 
> are extreme well trained in the Marshall Arts and my advice would be to 
> avoid hand to hand combat with types like that at all cost.
> 
> Kim's body guards could pound bricks into a pile of power with their 
> hand, they could use their forehead to bust bricks and boards and even 
> drive nails into 4 by 4s.  They took turns busting cane over each others 
> backs, and were pretty aerobic, even when using a handgun, and almost 
> alway hit their targets.  Those guys would put the US Secret Service 
> folks to sham.  If Kim's North Korea army is trained anywhere near a 
> well as his body guards, we could be in a heap of trouble if we go in there.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> LelandJ
> 
> 
> Ricardo Aráoz wrote:
>> Vince Teachout wrote:
>>   
>>> Leland F. Jackson, CPA wrote:
>>> 
 I 
 recently added a new pocket knife as a member of my collection.   It is 
 a Strider knife model "SnG Drop Point (Gen6) Folder".  It is my 
 understanding Strider knives are the best.  Below are links to a few 
 pictures.  The handgun on the left is my 90-TWO, and the handgun on the 
 right is my PX4.  
   
   
>>> Nothing says "Your worst nightmare, come to life" like a well-armed 
>>> CPA!  :-)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 
>> Check the Wagner knife. Nice piece.
>>
>> http://www.officer.com/article/article.jsp?siteSection=3&id=33658
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Re: [OT] More Evidence of Intelligent Life on Earth

2007-04-26 Thread Michael Madigan
So I guess you aren't qualified to speak about global
warming then.


--- "Leland F. Jackson, CPA" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> Yeah, but I earned my CPA certificate, which is
> sitting on my wall.  
> Where is your Phd Diploma in physics?  LOL
> 
> 
> Michael Madigan wrote:
> > You're welcome.
> >
> > --- "Leland F. Jackson, CPA"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > wrote:
> >
> >   
> >> Thanks for that science class Mr. Michael
> Madigan,
> >> Phd physics.
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >>
> >> LelandJ
> >>
> >> On 04/26/2007 Michael Madigan wrote:
> >> 
> >>>  The fact remains that CO2 in the atmosphere is
> a
> >>>  trailing indicator.  The Oceans heat up then
> CO2
> >>>   
> >> is
> >> 
> >>>  released into the atmosphere, CO2 in the
> >>>   
> >> atmosphere
> >> 
> >>>  doesn't heat up the ocean.
> >>>   
> >>
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Re: [OT] New Strider Knife

2007-04-26 Thread Leland F. Jackson, CPA
I don't know if the Beretta forum would be a good place to ask this 
question, but it might be.  You might also try the Glock forum:

http://www.berettaforum.net/

http://www.glocktalk.com/

Regards,

LelandJ


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> On Thursday 26 April 2007 7:47 pm, Leland F. Jackson, CPA wrote:
>   
>> Who here is a believer in the 2nd Admendment to the Constitution?  I
>> recently added a new pocket knife as a member of my collection.   It is
>> a Strider knife model "SnG Drop Point (Gen6) Folder".  It is my
>> understanding Strider knives are the best.  Below are links to a few
>> pictures.  The handgun on the left is my 90-TWO
>> 
>
> Hi Leland!
>
> Cool knife. Interesting that Strider knives are said to be the best.
>
> The 90 TWO is a lot like my Taurus PT 92 AR. Do you know of a holster that 
> will fit the AR?
>   



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Re: [OT] New Strider Knife

2007-04-26 Thread Leland F. Jackson, CPA
I got a holster for my 90-TWO over on Stallion Leather, for about 
$110.00.  What kind of holster do you want, (eg IWB, shoulder, pocket, 
ankle, duty, etc)

Regards,

LelandJ

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> On Thursday 26 April 2007 7:47 pm, Leland F. Jackson, CPA wrote:
>   
>> Who here is a believer in the 2nd Admendment to the Constitution?  I
>> recently added a new pocket knife as a member of my collection.   It is
>> a Strider knife model "SnG Drop Point (Gen6) Folder".  It is my
>> understanding Strider knives are the best.  Below are links to a few
>> pictures.  The handgun on the left is my 90-TWO
>> 
>
> Hi Leland!
>
> Cool knife. Interesting that Strider knives are said to be the best.
>
> The 90 TWO is a lot like my Taurus PT 92 AR. Do you know of a holster that 
> will fit the AR?
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Re: [OT] More Evidence of Intelligent Life on Earth

2007-04-26 Thread Leland F. Jackson, CPA
Yeah, but I earned my CPA certificate, which is sitting on my wall.  
Where is your Phd Diploma in physics?  LOL


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>
> --- "Leland F. Jackson, CPA" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>
>   
>> Thanks for that science class Mr. Michael Madigan,
>> Phd physics.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> LelandJ
>>
>> On 04/26/2007 Michael Madigan wrote:
>> 
>>>  The fact remains that CO2 in the atmosphere is a
>>>  trailing indicator.  The Oceans heat up then CO2
>>>   
>> is
>> 
>>>  released into the atmosphere, CO2 in the
>>>   
>> atmosphere
>> 
>>>  doesn't heat up the ocean.
>>>   
>>
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Re: [OT] New Strider Knife

2007-04-26 Thread Pete Theisen
On Thursday 26 April 2007 7:47 pm, Leland F. Jackson, CPA wrote:
> Who here is a believer in the 2nd Admendment to the Constitution?  I
> recently added a new pocket knife as a member of my collection.   It is
> a Strider knife model "SnG Drop Point (Gen6) Folder".  It is my
> understanding Strider knives are the best.  Below are links to a few
> pictures.  The handgun on the left is my 90-TWO

Hi Leland!

Cool knife. Interesting that Strider knives are said to be the best.

The 90 TWO is a lot like my Taurus PT 92 AR. Do you know of a holster that 
will fit the AR?
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Re: [OT] Signs of the Times

2007-04-26 Thread Leland F. Jackson, CPA
I don't think its legal to overthrow the US Constitutional form of 
government by any means, if its against the wishes of the American 
people.  As Bill Arnold would say, the American people have and are 
being duped.  Overthrow of the American government by other mean such as 
treachery and deceit should also be illegal.

Regards,

LelandJ

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> 
>   
>> If the Bush Administration, the Neocons, and some members of the Radical
>> Religious Righters were working toward a goal of establishing a new form
>> of government for the "New American Century", what do you think the
>> punishment should be?
>> 
>
> Hi Leland!
>
> I think everything they have done and are doing is legal and if so, there 
> should be no witch hunt to begin with, and certainly no punishment. It is 
> legal to attempt to change the government by peaceful means.
>
>   
>> You mean that you wish them (gasp) physical harm? As in "support peace or
>> I'll kill you"?
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Re: [OT] More Evidence of Intelligent Life on Earth

2007-04-26 Thread Michael Madigan
You're welcome.

--- "Leland F. Jackson, CPA" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

> Thanks for that science class Mr. Michael Madigan,
> Phd physics.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> LelandJ
> 
> On 04/26/2007 Michael Madigan wrote:
> >  The fact remains that CO2 in the atmosphere is a
> >  trailing indicator.  The Oceans heat up then CO2
> is
> >  released into the atmosphere, CO2 in the
> atmosphere
> >  doesn't heat up the ocean.
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [OT] This is classic

2007-04-26 Thread Ricardo Aráoz
Robert Calco wrote:
>  
> On Thursday, April 26, 2007, at 04:25PM, "Ricardo Aráoz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> wrote:
> 
>>> The riots themselves are as I see it a sign of a deeper threat to  
>>> European civilization. France may be no threat in the narrow sense  
>>> you insist on imposing on the discussion, but its cultural demise is.
>> So youngsters rioting is a 'cultural demise'? What about hooligans
>> rioting through Europe? Is that also a 'cultural demise'? The deep
>> 'football conspiracy' threat?
>> I perceive you as constantly looking for an enemy, probably cultural.
> 
> I'm not looking for enemies. I'm noting with dismay cultural trends that in 
> the context of the Islamofascist movement over the last 20+ years portend bad 
> things, aided and abetted by the retarded policies of a socialist movement 
> now over 100 years old that (may) have gutted Europe of its will to survive. 
> My bigger concern is the United States, and trends here are also ominous.
> 
> I perceive you as constantly looking for a rhetorical argument, never 
> actually making substantive points.
> 

We should shoot guys like you. Is that 'substantive' enough? Let see
 BANG, BANG, PING!

Nope. Can't stop being rhetorical in posts.

>>> Incidentally I have every right to read what you write and disagree  
>>> with how you frame the issue. It does not mean I don't comprehend  
>>> what you are saying.
>>>
>> You certainly have every right. But I must point out when you are not
>> answering to what I wrote, when you are changing the subject (however
>> subtly).
> 
> Subtly changing the subject?
> 
> Jeez! 
> 
> 1. Explain to me on what level I failed to address the subject of this 
> thread. (This will be hard since I established the subject of this thread... 
> but good luck.)
> 
> 2. Then, explain to me how your point had anything to do with my original 
> subject. I was never at any point saying France was a danger to the rest of 
> the world in the sense you mean or any other sense. Who whom here!?
> 
> - Bob
> 
>>


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Re: [OT] More Evidence of Intelligent Life on Earth

2007-04-26 Thread Leland F. Jackson, CPA
Thanks for that science class Mr. Michael Madigan, Phd physics.

Regards,

LelandJ

On 04/26/2007 Michael Madigan wrote:
>  The fact remains that CO2 in the atmosphere is a
>  trailing indicator.  The Oceans heat up then CO2 is
>  released into the atmosphere, CO2 in the atmosphere
>  doesn't heat up the ocean.




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Re: [OT] Signs of the Times

2007-04-26 Thread Pete Theisen
On Thursday 26 April 2007 6:53 pm, Leland F. Jackson, CPA wrote:

>
> If the Bush Administration, the Neocons, and some members of the Radical
> Religious Righters were working toward a goal of establishing a new form
> of government for the "New American Century", what do you think the
> punishment should be?

Hi Leland!

I think everything they have done and are doing is legal and if so, there 
should be no witch hunt to begin with, and certainly no punishment. It is 
legal to attempt to change the government by peaceful means.

> You mean that you wish them (gasp) physical harm? As in "support peace or
> I'll kill you"?
-- 
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Re: [OT] More Evidence of Intelligent Life on Earth

2007-04-26 Thread Michael Madigan
The fact remains that CO2 in the atmosphere is a
trailing indicator.  The Oceans heat up then CO2 is
released into the atmosphere, CO2 in the atmosphere
doesn't heat up the ocean.



--- "Leland F. Jackson, CPA" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

> Yeah, but they are melting really fast.  I wouldn't
> be so worried, if 
> the glaciers were taking their time to melt and life
> on earth had 
> 500,000 or 1,000,000 years to adjust and evolve for
> the changing 
> climate, but evolution doesn't work fast enough to
> adjust to glaciers 
> that melt over a couple of generation unless your a
> micro body of some 
> kind. 
> 
> Regards,
> 
> LelandJ
> 
> 
> Michael Madigan wrote:
> > The Glaciers are melting because the Earth is
> going
> > through a heating cycle due an increase in solar
> > energy.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --- "Leland F. Jackson, CPA"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > wrote:
> >
> >   
> >> Why are the glaciers of the arctic region melting
> at
> >> such an alarming 
> >> pace?  The glaciers were millions of year in
> >> building, and now they are 
> >> melting over a couple of human generations. 
> Sounds
> >> like something wrong 
> >> to me.
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >>
> >> LelandJ
> >>
> >> Robert Calco wrote:
> >> 
> >>> http://tinyurl.com/39kcck
> >>>
> >>> - - -
> >>>
> >>> Patterson said much of the up-to-date research
> >>>   
> >> indicates that "changes in the brightness of the
> >> sun" are almost certainly the primary cause of
> the
> >> warming trend since the end of the "Little Ice
> Age"
> >> in the late 19th century. Human emissions of
> carbon
> >> dioxide (CO2), the gas of concern in most plans
> to
> >> curb climate change, appear to have little effect
> on
> >> global climate, he said.
> >> 
> >>> "I think the proof in the pudding, based on what
> >>>   
> >> (media and governments) are saying, (is) we're
> about
> >> three quarters of the way (to disaster) with the
> >> doubling of CO2 in the atmosphere," said
> Patterson.
> >> "The world should be heating up like crazy by
> now,
> >> and it's not. The temperatures match very closely
> >> with the solar cycles."
> >> 
> >>> Patterson explained CO2 is not a pollutant, but
> an
> >>>   
> >> essential plant food.
> >> 
> >>>  
> >>> ...
> >>>
> >>> "All the money wasted on Kyoto in a year could
> >>>   
> >> provide clean drinking water for Africa," said
> >> Patterson. "We're into a new era of science with
> the
> >> discussion of solar forces. Eventually, Kyoto is
> >> going to fall by the wayside. In the meantime,
> I'm
> >> worried we're going to spend millions that could
> >> have been spent on something better like air
> >> pollution."
> >> 
> >>> ...
> >>>
> >>> Global warming assertions are based on
> >>>   
> >> inconclusive evidence put forth in science
> reports
> >> that had not been published yet, he said.
> >> 
> >>> "The media takes (inconclusive) information that
> >>>   
> >> only suggests there could be a climate problem
> and
> >> turns it into an environmental catastrophe," said
> >> Harris.
> >> 
> >>> "They continually say we only have 10 years
> left,
> >>>   
> >> and they've been saying it for 20 years, and it's
> >> ridiculous," he said. "The only reason I got
> >> involved in talking to media is that I think our
> >> resources are being mismanaged.
> >> 
> >>> "Go after something real and tangible like air
> >>>   
> >> pollution." 
> >> 
> >>> - - -
> >>>
> >>> A & Men.
> >>>
> >>> - Bob
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>   
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[OT] Name Those Voices

2007-04-26 Thread Robert Calco
http://tinyurl.com/38w4sy

- - -

A good exercise for people with short-term memory loss.

For the hearing impaired, try the lip-sync version---can you read their lips?

- - -

http://tinyurl.com/37pxtc

And another version:

http://tinyurl.com/yoccz9

- Bob


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Re: [OT] More Evidence of Intelligent Life on Earth

2007-04-26 Thread Leland F. Jackson, CPA
Yeah, but they are melting really fast.  I wouldn't be so worried, if 
the glaciers were taking their time to melt and life on earth had 
500,000 or 1,000,000 years to adjust and evolve for the changing 
climate, but evolution doesn't work fast enough to adjust to glaciers 
that melt over a couple of generation unless your a micro body of some 
kind. 

Regards,

LelandJ


Michael Madigan wrote:
> The Glaciers are melting because the Earth is going
> through a heating cycle due an increase in solar
> energy.
>
>
>
>
> --- "Leland F. Jackson, CPA" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>
>   
>> Why are the glaciers of the arctic region melting at
>> such an alarming 
>> pace?  The glaciers were millions of year in
>> building, and now they are 
>> melting over a couple of human generations.  Sounds
>> like something wrong 
>> to me.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> LelandJ
>>
>> Robert Calco wrote:
>> 
>>> http://tinyurl.com/39kcck
>>>
>>> - - -
>>>
>>> Patterson said much of the up-to-date research
>>>   
>> indicates that "changes in the brightness of the
>> sun" are almost certainly the primary cause of the
>> warming trend since the end of the "Little Ice Age"
>> in the late 19th century. Human emissions of carbon
>> dioxide (CO2), the gas of concern in most plans to
>> curb climate change, appear to have little effect on
>> global climate, he said.
>> 
>>> "I think the proof in the pudding, based on what
>>>   
>> (media and governments) are saying, (is) we're about
>> three quarters of the way (to disaster) with the
>> doubling of CO2 in the atmosphere," said Patterson.
>> "The world should be heating up like crazy by now,
>> and it's not. The temperatures match very closely
>> with the solar cycles."
>> 
>>> Patterson explained CO2 is not a pollutant, but an
>>>   
>> essential plant food.
>> 
>>>  
>>> ...
>>>
>>> "All the money wasted on Kyoto in a year could
>>>   
>> provide clean drinking water for Africa," said
>> Patterson. "We're into a new era of science with the
>> discussion of solar forces. Eventually, Kyoto is
>> going to fall by the wayside. In the meantime, I'm
>> worried we're going to spend millions that could
>> have been spent on something better like air
>> pollution."
>> 
>>> ...
>>>
>>> Global warming assertions are based on
>>>   
>> inconclusive evidence put forth in science reports
>> that had not been published yet, he said.
>> 
>>> "The media takes (inconclusive) information that
>>>   
>> only suggests there could be a climate problem and
>> turns it into an environmental catastrophe," said
>> Harris.
>> 
>>> "They continually say we only have 10 years left,
>>>   
>> and they've been saying it for 20 years, and it's
>> ridiculous," he said. "The only reason I got
>> involved in talking to media is that I think our
>> resources are being mismanaged.
>> 
>>> "Go after something real and tangible like air
>>>   
>> pollution." 
>> 
>>> - - -
>>>
>>> A & Men.
>>>
>>> - Bob
>>>
>>>
>>>   
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Re: [OT] More Evidence of Intelligent Life on Earth

2007-04-26 Thread Michael Madigan
The Glaciers are melting because the Earth is going
through a heating cycle due an increase in solar
energy.




--- "Leland F. Jackson, CPA" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

> Why are the glaciers of the arctic region melting at
> such an alarming 
> pace?  The glaciers were millions of year in
> building, and now they are 
> melting over a couple of human generations.  Sounds
> like something wrong 
> to me.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> LelandJ
> 
> Robert Calco wrote:
> > http://tinyurl.com/39kcck
> >
> > - - -
> >
> > Patterson said much of the up-to-date research
> indicates that "changes in the brightness of the
> sun" are almost certainly the primary cause of the
> warming trend since the end of the "Little Ice Age"
> in the late 19th century. Human emissions of carbon
> dioxide (CO2), the gas of concern in most plans to
> curb climate change, appear to have little effect on
> global climate, he said.
> >
> > "I think the proof in the pudding, based on what
> (media and governments) are saying, (is) we're about
> three quarters of the way (to disaster) with the
> doubling of CO2 in the atmosphere," said Patterson.
> "The world should be heating up like crazy by now,
> and it's not. The temperatures match very closely
> with the solar cycles."
> >
> > Patterson explained CO2 is not a pollutant, but an
> essential plant food.
> >  
> > ...
> >
> > "All the money wasted on Kyoto in a year could
> provide clean drinking water for Africa," said
> Patterson. "We're into a new era of science with the
> discussion of solar forces. Eventually, Kyoto is
> going to fall by the wayside. In the meantime, I'm
> worried we're going to spend millions that could
> have been spent on something better like air
> pollution."
> >
> > ...
> >
> > Global warming assertions are based on
> inconclusive evidence put forth in science reports
> that had not been published yet, he said.
> >
> > "The media takes (inconclusive) information that
> only suggests there could be a climate problem and
> turns it into an environmental catastrophe," said
> Harris.
> >
> > "They continually say we only have 10 years left,
> and they've been saying it for 20 years, and it's
> ridiculous," he said. "The only reason I got
> involved in talking to media is that I think our
> resources are being mismanaged.
> >
> > "Go after something real and tangible like air
> pollution." 
> > - - -
> >
> > A & Men.
> >
> > - Bob
> >
> >
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Re: [OT] More Evidence of Intelligent Life on Earth

2007-04-26 Thread Leland F. Jackson, CPA
Why are the glaciers of the arctic region melting at such an alarming 
pace?  The glaciers were millions of year in building, and now they are 
melting over a couple of human generations.  Sounds like something wrong 
to me.

Regards,

LelandJ

Robert Calco wrote:
> http://tinyurl.com/39kcck
>
> - - -
>
> Patterson said much of the up-to-date research indicates that "changes in the 
> brightness of the sun" are almost certainly the primary cause of the warming 
> trend since the end of the "Little Ice Age" in the late 19th century. Human 
> emissions of carbon dioxide (CO2), the gas of concern in most plans to curb 
> climate change, appear to have little effect on global climate, he said.
>
> "I think the proof in the pudding, based on what (media and governments) are 
> saying, (is) we're about three quarters of the way (to disaster) with the 
> doubling of CO2 in the atmosphere," said Patterson. "The world should be 
> heating up like crazy by now, and it's not. The temperatures match very 
> closely with the solar cycles."
>
> Patterson explained CO2 is not a pollutant, but an essential plant food.
>  
> ...
>
> "All the money wasted on Kyoto in a year could provide clean drinking water 
> for Africa," said Patterson. "We're into a new era of science with the 
> discussion of solar forces. Eventually, Kyoto is going to fall by the 
> wayside. In the meantime, I'm worried we're going to spend millions that 
> could have been spent on something better like air pollution."
>
> ...
>
> Global warming assertions are based on inconclusive evidence put forth in 
> science reports that had not been published yet, he said.
>
> "The media takes (inconclusive) information that only suggests there could be 
> a climate problem and turns it into an environmental catastrophe," said 
> Harris.
>
> "They continually say we only have 10 years left, and they've been saying it 
> for 20 years, and it's ridiculous," he said. "The only reason I got involved 
> in talking to media is that I think our resources are being mismanaged.
>
> "Go after something real and tangible like air pollution." 
> - - -
>
> A & Men.
>
> - Bob
>
>
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Re: [OT] New Strider Knife

2007-04-26 Thread Leland F. Jackson, CPA
Boker looks like they make some nice knifes.

I hate the thought of hand to hand combat and would take extraordinary 
mean to avoid it.

I took judo classes while stationed a Bergstrom AFB, Austin, Texas.  In 
the first lesson, the class learned how to take a fall.  In the second 
class we learned how to throw an opponent by kicking his legs out from 
under him.  On the third class, we learned how to throw the opponent 
over our right shoulder.  Also, on the third lesson we did some real 
sparring, and I damn near whip the who class, taking on opponents one at 
a time.  I won 13 matches straight.  Then some B52 pilot was able to 
throw me and wouldn't let me up, so he won.  I was exhausted by then, 
and didn't even know that being held down counted as a throw, (eg you 
win a match by throwing you opponent twice, so the B52 pilot won by 
throwing me and pinning me down for a period).  The instructor of the 
class wanted to take me down to San Antonio to compete in a tournament, 
but my boss wouldn't let me go, so that was the end of judo for me.

The Strider knife is great, but it amazingly light.  I haven't tried it 
yet, but I don't think it would be a very good throwing knife.  Back in 
my younger days, I could throw a knife pretty well, which would beat the 
hell out of fighting hand to hand.

I saw a video over on the Beretta forum on North Korea's Kim's body 
guards.  Those guys are really good.  I wouldn't get into go hand to 
hand with anyone like that, even if I had a knife and they didn't.  They 
are extreme well trained in the Marshall Arts and my advice would be to 
avoid hand to hand combat with types like that at all cost.

Kim's body guards could pound bricks into a pile of power with their 
hand, they could use their forehead to bust bricks and boards and even 
drive nails into 4 by 4s.  They took turns busting cane over each others 
backs, and were pretty aerobic, even when using a handgun, and almost 
alway hit their targets.  Those guys would put the US Secret Service 
folks to sham.  If Kim's North Korea army is trained anywhere near a 
well as his body guards, we could be in a heap of trouble if we go in there.

Regards,

LelandJ


Ricardo Aráoz wrote:
> Vince Teachout wrote:
>   
>> Leland F. Jackson, CPA wrote:
>> 
>>> I 
>>> recently added a new pocket knife as a member of my collection.   It is 
>>> a Strider knife model "SnG Drop Point (Gen6) Folder".  It is my 
>>> understanding Strider knives are the best.  Below are links to a few 
>>> pictures.  The handgun on the left is my 90-TWO, and the handgun on the 
>>> right is my PX4.  
>>>   
>>>   
>> Nothing says "Your worst nightmare, come to life" like a well-armed 
>> CPA!  :-)
>>
>>
>>
>> 
>
> Check the Wagner knife. Nice piece.
>
> http://www.officer.com/article/article.jsp?siteSection=3&id=33658
>
>
>
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Re: [OT] This is classic

2007-04-26 Thread Robert Calco
 
On Thursday, April 26, 2007, at 04:25PM, "Ricardo Aráoz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:

>> 
>> The riots themselves are as I see it a sign of a deeper threat to  
>> European civilization. France may be no threat in the narrow sense  
>> you insist on imposing on the discussion, but its cultural demise is.
>
>So youngsters rioting is a 'cultural demise'? What about hooligans
>rioting through Europe? Is that also a 'cultural demise'? The deep
>'football conspiracy' threat?
>I perceive you as constantly looking for an enemy, probably cultural.

I'm not looking for enemies. I'm noting with dismay cultural trends that in the 
context of the Islamofascist movement over the last 20+ years portend bad 
things, aided and abetted by the retarded policies of a socialist movement now 
over 100 years old that (may) have gutted Europe of its will to survive. My 
bigger concern is the United States, and trends here are also ominous.

I perceive you as constantly looking for a rhetorical argument, never actually 
making substantive points.

>> 
>> Incidentally I have every right to read what you write and disagree  
>> with how you frame the issue. It does not mean I don't comprehend  
>> what you are saying.
>> 
>
>You certainly have every right. But I must point out when you are not
>answering to what I wrote, when you are changing the subject (however
>subtly).

Subtly changing the subject?

Jeez! 

1. Explain to me on what level I failed to address the subject of this thread. 
(This will be hard since I established the subject of this thread... but good 
luck.)

2. Then, explain to me how your point had anything to do with my original 
subject. I was never at any point saying France was a danger to the rest of the 
world in the sense you mean or any other sense. Who whom here!?

- Bob

>
>
>
>
>
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[OT] Honoring our heroes

2007-04-26 Thread Ed Leafe
http://images.ucomics.com/comics/tt/2007/tt070426.gif


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Re: quiet?

2007-04-26 Thread MB Software Solutions
Wolfe, Stephen S YA-02 6 MDSS/SGSI wrote:
> Me, up to my ass in coding work and none of it in VFP.  All of it is in
> VBscript.
>
>   

For intranet/extranet work?

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[OT] More Evidence of Intelligent Life on Earth

2007-04-26 Thread Robert Calco
http://tinyurl.com/39kcck

- - -

Patterson said much of the up-to-date research indicates that "changes in the 
brightness of the sun" are almost certainly the primary cause of the warming 
trend since the end of the "Little Ice Age" in the late 19th century. Human 
emissions of carbon dioxide (CO2), the gas of concern in most plans to curb 
climate change, appear to have little effect on global climate, he said.

"I think the proof in the pudding, based on what (media and governments) are 
saying, (is) we're about three quarters of the way (to disaster) with the 
doubling of CO2 in the atmosphere," said Patterson. "The world should be 
heating up like crazy by now, and it's not. The temperatures match very closely 
with the solar cycles."

Patterson explained CO2 is not a pollutant, but an essential plant food.
 
...

"All the money wasted on Kyoto in a year could provide clean drinking water for 
Africa," said Patterson. "We're into a new era of science with the discussion 
of solar forces. Eventually, Kyoto is going to fall by the wayside. In the 
meantime, I'm worried we're going to spend millions that could have been spent 
on something better like air pollution."

...

Global warming assertions are based on inconclusive evidence put forth in 
science reports that had not been published yet, he said.

"The media takes (inconclusive) information that only suggests there could be a 
climate problem and turns it into an environmental catastrophe," said Harris.

"They continually say we only have 10 years left, and they've been saying it 
for 20 years, and it's ridiculous," he said. "The only reason I got involved in 
talking to media is that I think our resources are being mismanaged.

"Go after something real and tangible like air pollution." 
- - -

A & Men.

- Bob


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Re: [OT] Bill Moyer's Buying the War show

2007-04-26 Thread Michael Madigan
He'll get a trial, and when convicted, I would love to
pull the lever.



--- Ricardo Aráoz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Michael Madigan wrote:
> > Treason isn't considered freedom of speech.
> > 
> 
> And you were named a judge when? Or do you worship
> Mr.Lynch?
> 
> 
> > 
> > --- Ricardo Aráoz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > 
> >> Michael Madigan wrote:
> >>> Bill Moyers should be hung for treason.
> >>>
> >> Spoken as a true member of the 'Free World'!
> >> (freedom of speech?)
> >>
> >>> --- Bill Arnold <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>>
>  If you missed the Bill Moyers show last night,
> it
>  will be repeated on
>  PBS (channel 13 here) this week. If you have
> any
>  sense at all of caring
>  about what happened - and far more importantly,
> >> if
>  you appreciate what
>  happened as prelude to what is yet to come, I
> >> urge
>  you to watch it and
>  to think about it.
> 
>  The mass media pump-up for the invasion of the
> ME
>  was larger and more
>  pervasive then I experienced or realized. I
> >> didn't
>  know, for one
>  example, that Oprah was selling the invasion to
> >> her
>  millions of fans. I
>  had known about the Donohue firing, but not the
>  details as he himself
>  describes it on this show.
> 
>  And so on. Moyers puts the case, the
>  facts/stats/evidence that this
>  country was massively duped  on the table for
> >> anyone
>  to see. One of his
>  guests mentions, with a sense of awe, just how
>  "clever" the perps were
>  about it.
> 
>  Right up front, he identifies the neocon gang
> as
> >> the
>  perps behind the
>  curtain, but the show is focused on the media's
>  role, not the gang
>  itself, but there's no doubt that the road he's
> >> on
>  ends at neocon
>  central.
> 
>  This story is about what happened, but unless
> >> you're
>  in a hole somewhere
>  or have your eyes and ears taped, you'll
> >> appreciate
>  that it's not over.
>  Some names have changed, but the forces behind
> >> the
>  invasion are still
>  there. The NY Times, the Washington Post, the
> >> Wall
>  Street Journal, Fox
>  News, etc. haven't lost an iota of power, and
> to
>  this day continue to
>  lead this country on a march to our ruin for
> >> their
>  cause. 
> 
>  A part of me thinks that it's too late now,
> that
> >> the
>  forces that gang
>  have set in motion cannot be stopped, but the
>  stronger part refuses to
>  accept that fate. I trust, because I must, that
> >> the
>  true spirit of the
>  American and British people has yet to rise,
> but
>  that it will happen,
>  because it must.
> 
>  Please watch this show. 
> 
> 
>  Bill
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [OT] New Strider Knife

2007-04-26 Thread Leland F. Jackson, CPA
Most of my write-offs, (eg I use the accural method of accounting), came 
from AA members, who I agreed to help and/or represent, who had much 
bigger problems in getting their lives back together, than in paying 
me.  Otherwise, my A/R collections were good, so I hardly ever had to go 
visit anyone with my guns.  HahaaH

Regards,

LelandJ

Vince Teachout wrote:
> Leland F. Jackson, CPA wrote:
>   
>> I'm totally harmless, but I will take up for myself if attacked. 
>>
>>   
>> 
> Leland: "I REALLY don't think you should claim that deduction."
>
> Client: " Uhm... Ok.. sir."
>
>
>
>
>   



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Re: [OT] New Strider Knife

2007-04-26 Thread Ricardo Aráoz
Vince Teachout wrote:
> Leland F. Jackson, CPA wrote:
>> I 
>> recently added a new pocket knife as a member of my collection.   It is 
>> a Strider knife model "SnG Drop Point (Gen6) Folder".  It is my 
>> understanding Strider knives are the best.  Below are links to a few 
>> pictures.  The handgun on the left is my 90-TWO, and the handgun on the 
>> right is my PX4.  
>>   
> 
> Nothing says "Your worst nightmare, come to life" like a well-armed 
> CPA!  :-)
> 
> 
> 

Check the Wagner knife. Nice piece.

http://www.officer.com/article/article.jsp?siteSection=3&id=33658



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Re: [OT] Bill Moyer's Buying the War show

2007-04-26 Thread Ricardo Aráoz
Michael Madigan wrote:
> Treason isn't considered freedom of speech.
> 

And you were named a judge when? Or do you worship Mr.Lynch?


> 
> --- Ricardo Aráoz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
>> Michael Madigan wrote:
>>> Bill Moyers should be hung for treason.
>>>
>> Spoken as a true member of the 'Free World'!
>> (freedom of speech?)
>>
>>> --- Bill Arnold <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>
 If you missed the Bill Moyers show last night, it
 will be repeated on
 PBS (channel 13 here) this week. If you have any
 sense at all of caring
 about what happened - and far more importantly,
>> if
 you appreciate what
 happened as prelude to what is yet to come, I
>> urge
 you to watch it and
 to think about it.

 The mass media pump-up for the invasion of the ME
 was larger and more
 pervasive then I experienced or realized. I
>> didn't
 know, for one
 example, that Oprah was selling the invasion to
>> her
 millions of fans. I
 had known about the Donohue firing, but not the
 details as he himself
 describes it on this show.

 And so on. Moyers puts the case, the
 facts/stats/evidence that this
 country was massively duped  on the table for
>> anyone
 to see. One of his
 guests mentions, with a sense of awe, just how
 "clever" the perps were
 about it.

 Right up front, he identifies the neocon gang as
>> the
 perps behind the
 curtain, but the show is focused on the media's
 role, not the gang
 itself, but there's no doubt that the road he's
>> on
 ends at neocon
 central.

 This story is about what happened, but unless
>> you're
 in a hole somewhere
 or have your eyes and ears taped, you'll
>> appreciate
 that it's not over.
 Some names have changed, but the forces behind
>> the
 invasion are still
 there. The NY Times, the Washington Post, the
>> Wall
 Street Journal, Fox
 News, etc. haven't lost an iota of power, and to
 this day continue to
 lead this country on a march to our ruin for
>> their
 cause. 

 A part of me thinks that it's too late now, that
>> the
 forces that gang
 have set in motion cannot be stopped, but the
 stronger part refuses to
 accept that fate. I trust, because I must, that
>> the
 true spirit of the
 American and British people has yet to rise, but
 that it will happen,
 because it must.

 Please watch this show. 


 Bill




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Re: [OT] New Strider Knife

2007-04-26 Thread Ricardo Aráoz
David Crooks wrote:
> On Thursday, April 26, 2007 7:48 PM Leland F. Jackson, CPA wrote:
> 
>> Who here is a believer in the 2nd Admendment to the Constitution?  I 
>> recently added a new pocket knife as a member of my collection.   It is
> 
>> a Strider knife model "SnG Drop Point (Gen6) Folder".  It is my
> understanding Strider knives are the best.  
>> Below are links to a few pictures.  The handgun on the left is my
> 90-TWO, and the handgun on the right is my 
>> PX4.  I also purchased a new GunVault to keep the handgun secure when
> not neede, but with quick, fast access if >the shit ever hit the fan.
> 
> 
> 
> I support the right to arm bears!  
> 
> Also, I see who will win the duel between the knife and the handgun!
> 
> David L. Crooks
> 
> Remember, no one gets out alive!
> 

That would depend on engagement distance, who perceives the need for
killing first and how fast you draw.



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Re: [OT] New Strider Knife

2007-04-26 Thread Vince Teachout
Leland F. Jackson, CPA wrote:
> I'm totally harmless, but I will take up for myself if attacked. 
>
>   
Leland: "I REALLY don't think you should claim that deduction."

Client: " Uhm... Ok.. sir."




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Re: [OT] New Strider Knife

2007-04-26 Thread Vince Teachout
Michael Madigan wrote:
> Wasn't Manson a CPA?
>   
>   
Charles Manson?  Not according to Wiki - he never finished high school.
NORMAN Manson, yes, but Norm's never owned a gun, AFAIK.


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Re: [OT] New Strider Knife

2007-04-26 Thread Leland F. Jackson, CPA
I'm totally harmless, but I will take up for myself if attacked. 

Regards,

LelandJ


Vince Teachout wrote:
> Leland F. Jackson, CPA wrote:
>   
>> I 
>> recently added a new pocket knife as a member of my collection.   It is 
>> a Strider knife model "SnG Drop Point (Gen6) Folder".  It is my 
>> understanding Strider knives are the best.  Below are links to a few 
>> pictures.  The handgun on the left is my 90-TWO, and the handgun on the 
>> right is my PX4.  
>>   
>> 
>
> Nothing says "Your worst nightmare, come to life" like a well-armed 
> CPA!  :-)
>
>
>
>   



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Re: [OT] New Strider Knife

2007-04-26 Thread Michael Madigan
Wasn't Manson a CPA?

--- Vince Teachout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Leland F. Jackson, CPA wrote:
> > I 
> > recently added a new pocket knife as a member of
> my collection.   It is 
> > a Strider knife model "SnG Drop Point (Gen6)
> Folder".  It is my 
> > understanding Strider knives are the best.  Below
> are links to a few 
> > pictures.  The handgun on the left is my 90-TWO,
> and the handgun on the 
> > right is my PX4.  
> >   
> 
> Nothing says "Your worst nightmare, come to life"
> like a well-armed 
> CPA!  :-)
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Vince Teachout
> Caracal Software
> www.caracal.net
> 518-733-9411
> 
> 
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Re: [OT] New Strider Knife

2007-04-26 Thread Vince Teachout
Leland F. Jackson, CPA wrote:
> I 
> recently added a new pocket knife as a member of my collection.   It is 
> a Strider knife model "SnG Drop Point (Gen6) Folder".  It is my 
> understanding Strider knives are the best.  Below are links to a few 
> pictures.  The handgun on the left is my 90-TWO, and the handgun on the 
> right is my PX4.  
>   

Nothing says "Your worst nightmare, come to life" like a well-armed 
CPA!  :-)



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Re: Form Modifications

2007-04-26 Thread Vince Teachout
Virgil Bierschwale wrote:
> I keep getting this error message:
> "Cannot delete objects because some are members of a parent class"
>
> Here's the scenario.
> This company needs a new form, so I clone one (copy one), rename it and
> change all the values (grids, fields, etc.) like I would have done in the
> ole fp2.6 days..
>
> I'm beginning to believe this isn't possible in vfp9 and that I need to read
> the books that I bought and learn the whole oop thing, but I haven't the
> time because they need it done tonight...
>
> Oh boy, going to be a long one.
>
>   

A couple of things:
If you look in the Other tab, you'll find the name of the Base Class.  
Open the base class, SAVE AS somethingElse, then Hack up the 
SomethingElse, and create a new form based on that.
Or, if it's only a few objects that need deleting, I just set there 
sizes to 1X1, and set visible = .f.

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Re: [OT] New Strider Knife

2007-04-26 Thread Leland F. Jackson, CPA
Here is a link with a little history to the Second Amendment to the 
Constitution:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution

or

http://tinyurl.com/an2ny

Regards,

LelandJ


On 04/26/2007 Ed Leafe wrote:
> I guess that they just threw that clause in there for no reason, 
>  then? What then is the purpose of the inclusion of the first clause 
>  of the 2nd Amendment?




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Re: [OT] New Strider Knife

2007-04-26 Thread Ed Leafe
On Apr 26, 2007, at 8:19 PM, Leland F. Jackson, CPA wrote:

> I think that close enough to being a member of a well regulated
> Militia, even though I don't think the 2nd Amemdment to the  
> Constitution
> hinges on the requirement of being a member of a well regulated  
> Militia.

I guess that they just threw that clause in there for no reason,  
then? What then is the purpose of the inclusion of the first clause  
of the 2nd Amendment?

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Re: [OT] New Strider Knife

2007-04-26 Thread Michael Madigan
The second amendment was added to prevent Government
tyrany.



--- "Leland F. Jackson, CPA" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

> I served in the US Air Force for 4 years as a clerk.
>  One year of 
> service was in Vietnam, (eg Apr 67 to Apr 68),  I
> was then a member of 
> the National Guard; although, the Nation Guard never
> called me back up.  
> I'm now a vet with foreign war experience.
> 
>  I think that close enough to being a member of a
> well regulated 
> Militia, even though I don't think the 2nd Amemdment
> to the Constitution 
> hinges on the requirement of being a member of a
> well regulated Militia.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> LelandJ
> 
> 
> Ed Leafe wrote:
> > On Apr 26, 2007, at 8:03 PM, Leland F. Jackson,
> CPA wrote:
> >
> >   
> >> Of course, I'm talk about the right to bear arms.
> >>
> >> A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the
> security of a free
> >> State, the right of the people to keep and bear
> Arms, shall not be
> >> infringed.
> >>
> >> http://www.usconstitution.net/const.html#Am2
> >> 
> >
> > I never realized you were part of a
> well-regulated Militia.
> >
> > -- Ed Leafe
> > -- http://leafe.com
> > -- http://dabodev.com
> >
> >
> >
> >
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Re: [OT] New Strider Knife

2007-04-26 Thread Leland F. Jackson, CPA
Here is an article on a recent Federal Court ruling regarding the 2nd 
Amendment, which received very little coverage for some reason.

http://newsbusters.org/node/11334

Regards,

LelandJ


Ed Leafe wrote:
> On Apr 26, 2007, at 8:03 PM, Leland F. Jackson, CPA wrote:
>
>   
>> Of course, I'm talk about the right to bear arms.
>>
>> A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free
>> State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be
>> infringed.
>>
>> http://www.usconstitution.net/const.html#Am2
>> 
>
>   I never realized you were part of a well-regulated Militia.
>
> -- Ed Leafe
> -- http://leafe.com
> -- http://dabodev.com
>
>
>
>
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Re: [OT] Bill Moyer's Buying the War show

2007-04-26 Thread Michael Madigan
Treason isn't considered freedom of speech.


--- Ricardo Aráoz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Michael Madigan wrote:
> > Bill Moyers should be hung for treason.
> > 
> 
> Spoken as a true member of the 'Free World'!
> (freedom of speech?)
> 
> > --- Bill Arnold <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > 
> >> If you missed the Bill Moyers show last night, it
> >> will be repeated on
> >> PBS (channel 13 here) this week. If you have any
> >> sense at all of caring
> >> about what happened - and far more importantly,
> if
> >> you appreciate what
> >> happened as prelude to what is yet to come, I
> urge
> >> you to watch it and
> >> to think about it.
> >>
> >> The mass media pump-up for the invasion of the ME
> >> was larger and more
> >> pervasive then I experienced or realized. I
> didn't
> >> know, for one
> >> example, that Oprah was selling the invasion to
> her
> >> millions of fans. I
> >> had known about the Donohue firing, but not the
> >> details as he himself
> >> describes it on this show.
> >>
> >> And so on. Moyers puts the case, the
> >> facts/stats/evidence that this
> >> country was massively duped  on the table for
> anyone
> >> to see. One of his
> >> guests mentions, with a sense of awe, just how
> >> "clever" the perps were
> >> about it.
> >>
> >> Right up front, he identifies the neocon gang as
> the
> >> perps behind the
> >> curtain, but the show is focused on the media's
> >> role, not the gang
> >> itself, but there's no doubt that the road he's
> on
> >> ends at neocon
> >> central.
> >>
> >> This story is about what happened, but unless
> you're
> >> in a hole somewhere
> >> or have your eyes and ears taped, you'll
> appreciate
> >> that it's not over.
> >> Some names have changed, but the forces behind
> the
> >> invasion are still
> >> there. The NY Times, the Washington Post, the
> Wall
> >> Street Journal, Fox
> >> News, etc. haven't lost an iota of power, and to
> >> this day continue to
> >> lead this country on a march to our ruin for
> their
> >> cause. 
> >>
> >> A part of me thinks that it's too late now, that
> the
> >> forces that gang
> >> have set in motion cannot be stopped, but the
> >> stronger part refuses to
> >> accept that fate. I trust, because I must, that
> the
> >> true spirit of the
> >> American and British people has yet to rise, but
> >> that it will happen,
> >> because it must.
> >>
> >> Please watch this show. 
> >>
> >>
> >> Bill
> >>
> >>
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Re: [OT] Bill Moyer's Buying the War show

2007-04-26 Thread Ricardo Aráoz
Michael Madigan wrote:
> Bill Moyers should be hung for treason.
> 

Spoken as a true member of the 'Free World'! (freedom of speech?)

> --- Bill Arnold <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
>> If you missed the Bill Moyers show last night, it
>> will be repeated on
>> PBS (channel 13 here) this week. If you have any
>> sense at all of caring
>> about what happened - and far more importantly, if
>> you appreciate what
>> happened as prelude to what is yet to come, I urge
>> you to watch it and
>> to think about it.
>>
>> The mass media pump-up for the invasion of the ME
>> was larger and more
>> pervasive then I experienced or realized. I didn't
>> know, for one
>> example, that Oprah was selling the invasion to her
>> millions of fans. I
>> had known about the Donohue firing, but not the
>> details as he himself
>> describes it on this show.
>>
>> And so on. Moyers puts the case, the
>> facts/stats/evidence that this
>> country was massively duped  on the table for anyone
>> to see. One of his
>> guests mentions, with a sense of awe, just how
>> "clever" the perps were
>> about it.
>>
>> Right up front, he identifies the neocon gang as the
>> perps behind the
>> curtain, but the show is focused on the media's
>> role, not the gang
>> itself, but there's no doubt that the road he's on
>> ends at neocon
>> central.
>>
>> This story is about what happened, but unless you're
>> in a hole somewhere
>> or have your eyes and ears taped, you'll appreciate
>> that it's not over.
>> Some names have changed, but the forces behind the
>> invasion are still
>> there. The NY Times, the Washington Post, the Wall
>> Street Journal, Fox
>> News, etc. haven't lost an iota of power, and to
>> this day continue to
>> lead this country on a march to our ruin for their
>> cause. 
>>
>> A part of me thinks that it's too late now, that the
>> forces that gang
>> have set in motion cannot be stopped, but the
>> stronger part refuses to
>> accept that fate. I trust, because I must, that the
>> true spirit of the
>> American and British people has yet to rise, but
>> that it will happen,
>> because it must.
>>
>> Please watch this show. 
>>
>>
>> Bill
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [OT] This is classic

2007-04-26 Thread Ricardo Aráoz
Wolfe, Stephen S YA-02 6 MDSS/SGSI wrote:
> Ricardo,
> 
> Bob, did read what you said and addressed you words directly, I don't 
> understand the whine?
> 

Hahahaha! And which is the emoticon for 'whining'

> v/r
>  
> 
> //SIGNED//
> 
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> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ricardo Aráoz
> Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2007 9:46 PM
> To: ProFox Email List
> Subject: Re: [OT] This is classic
> 
> Robert Calco wrote:
>> On Apr 25, 2007, at 5:48 AM, Ricardo Aráoz wrote:
>>
>>> Don't have a standing on this issue of French internal politics,  
>>> France
>>> is not dangerous to the rest of the world. But.
>> I disagree. Consider the Muslim youth riots of not-so-long-ago.  
>> France is a microcosm of what European left-leaning policies have  
>> wrought on what used to be called European culture, and within a few  
>> short decades, if trends continue, the radical Muslims who preach  
>> death to the West from the underbelly of European society will have  
>> overtaken several nuclear nations by attrition.
>>
>> That's a reason to at least care about European politics.
>>
> 
> Please, read what I wrote. I say 'FRANCE' is not dangerous to the rest
> of the world. Muslim youth riots are INTERNAL problems of the country
> and not a danger to the rest of the world.
> 
> 


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Re: [OT] This is classic

2007-04-26 Thread Ricardo Aráoz
Robert Calco wrote:
> On Apr 25, 2007, at 9:46 PM, Ricardo Aráoz wrote:
> 
>> Robert Calco wrote:
>>> On Apr 25, 2007, at 5:48 AM, Ricardo Aráoz wrote:
>>>
 Don't have a standing on this issue of French internal politics,
 France
 is not dangerous to the rest of the world. But.
>>> I disagree. Consider the Muslim youth riots of not-so-long-ago.
>>> France is a microcosm of what European left-leaning policies have
>>> wrought on what used to be called European culture, and within a few
>>> short decades, if trends continue, the radical Muslims who preach
>>> death to the West from the underbelly of European society will have
>>> overtaken several nuclear nations by attrition.
>>>
>>> That's a reason to at least care about European politics.
>>>
>> Please, read what I wrote. I say 'FRANCE' is not dangerous to the rest
>> of the world. Muslim youth riots are INTERNAL problems of the country
>> and not a danger to the rest of the world.
> 
> I read what you wrote, both then and now, and I still disagree.
> 
> The riots themselves are as I see it a sign of a deeper threat to  
> European civilization. France may be no threat in the narrow sense  
> you insist on imposing on the discussion, but its cultural demise is.

So youngsters rioting is a 'cultural demise'? What about hooligans
rioting through Europe? Is that also a 'cultural demise'? The deep
'football conspiracy' threat?
I perceive you as constantly looking for an enemy, probably cultural.

> 
> Incidentally I have every right to read what you write and disagree  
> with how you frame the issue. It does not mean I don't comprehend  
> what you are saying.
> 

You certainly have every right. But I must point out when you are not
answering to what I wrote, when you are changing the subject (however
subtly).





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Re: [OT] New Strider Knife

2007-04-26 Thread Leland F. Jackson, CPA
I served in the US Air Force for 4 years as a clerk.  One year of 
service was in Vietnam, (eg Apr 67 to Apr 68),  I was then a member of 
the National Guard; although, the Nation Guard never called me back up.  
I'm now a vet with foreign war experience.

 I think that close enough to being a member of a well regulated 
Militia, even though I don't think the 2nd Amemdment to the Constitution 
hinges on the requirement of being a member of a well regulated Militia.

Regards,

LelandJ


Ed Leafe wrote:
> On Apr 26, 2007, at 8:03 PM, Leland F. Jackson, CPA wrote:
>
>   
>> Of course, I'm talk about the right to bear arms.
>>
>> A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free
>> State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be
>> infringed.
>>
>> http://www.usconstitution.net/const.html#Am2
>> 
>
>   I never realized you were part of a well-regulated Militia.
>
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Re: [OT] This is classic

2007-04-26 Thread Ricardo Aráoz
Pete Theisen wrote:
> On Wednesday 25 April 2007 9:46 pm, Ricardo Aráoz wrote:
> 
>>> I disagree. Consider the Muslim youth riots of not-so-long-ago.
>>> France is a microcosm of what European left-leaning policies have
>>> wrought on what used to be called European culture, and within a few
>>> short decades, if trends continue, the radical Muslims who preach
>>> death to the West from the underbelly of European society will have
>>> overtaken several nuclear nations by attrition.
>>>
>>> That's a reason to at least care about European politics.
>> Please, read what I wrote. I say 'FRANCE' is not dangerous to the rest
>> of the world. Muslim youth riots are INTERNAL problems of the country
>> and not a danger to the rest of the world.
> 
> Hi Ricardo!
> 
> You are dangerously wrong. France is at least nominally part of the free 
> world, and if she is attacked from within or without, the whole free world is 
> also attacked.
> 
> Even Argentina's security is diminished by internal trouble in France. 
> Isolationism only worked in the 5th century or so, if even then.

Christ! Do you still believe in the Domino Theory? It's bullshait! How
long will you use that scary picture?
And what the hell is the f.cking 'free world'? Please name the members.
And please tell me what does 'free' stand for? Is Saudi Arabia (an ally
of USA) part of the 'free world'? And Russia?




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RE: Form Modifications

2007-04-26 Thread Virgil Bierschwale
Thanks...

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Subject: Re: Form Modifications

Virgil Bierschwale wrote:
> I keep getting this error message:
> "Cannot delete objects because some are members of a parent class"
> 
> Here's the scenario.
> This company needs a new form, so I clone one (copy one), rename it and
> change all the values (grids, fields, etc.) like I would have done in the
> ole fp2.6 days..
> 
> I'm beginning to believe this isn't possible in vfp9 and that I need to
read
> the books that I bought and learn the whole oop thing, but I haven't the
> time because they need it done tonight...
> 
> Oh boy, going to be a long one.
> 
> 
> 
> Virgil Bierschwale


here's a hack off the top of my head, UNTESTED and NO IDEA if it will 
work or not..

BACKUP the form to a very safe place

open the scx in the browser and locate what looks to be the main record 
for the container

look in the memo fields for a ref to another container or base class or 
something of the VFP-specific classes.

Change it to something else and see what happens...

OR

find the objects (textbozxes, combos whatever) that are within the container

copy/paste them somewhere else

delete the whole thing

copy/paste them back


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www.bikefriday.com
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Re: Form Modifications

2007-04-26 Thread Matthew Jarvis
Virgil Bierschwale wrote:
> I keep getting this error message:
> "Cannot delete objects because some are members of a parent class"
> 
> Here's the scenario.
> This company needs a new form, so I clone one (copy one), rename it and
> change all the values (grids, fields, etc.) like I would have done in the
> ole fp2.6 days..
> 
> I'm beginning to believe this isn't possible in vfp9 and that I need to read
> the books that I bought and learn the whole oop thing, but I haven't the
> time because they need it done tonight...
> 
> Oh boy, going to be a long one.
> 
> 
> 
> Virgil Bierschwale


here's a hack off the top of my head, UNTESTED and NO IDEA if it will 
work or not..

BACKUP the form to a very safe place

open the scx in the browser and locate what looks to be the main record 
for the container

look in the memo fields for a ref to another container or base class or 
something of the VFP-specific classes.

Change it to something else and see what happens...

OR

find the objects (textbozxes, combos whatever) that are within the container

copy/paste them somewhere else

delete the whole thing

copy/paste them back


Matthew S. Jarvis
IT Manager
Bike Friday - "Performance that Packs."
www.bikefriday.com
541/687-0487 x140
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Re: [OT] New Strider Knife

2007-04-26 Thread Ed Leafe
On Apr 26, 2007, at 8:03 PM, Leland F. Jackson, CPA wrote:

> Of course, I'm talk about the right to bear arms.
>
> A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free
> State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be
> infringed.
>
> http://www.usconstitution.net/const.html#Am2

I never realized you were part of a well-regulated Militia.

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Re: [OT] Signs of the Times

2007-04-26 Thread Ed Leafe
On Apr 26, 2007, at 6:53 PM, Leland F. Jackson, CPA wrote:

> I had to do some research on this.  It is against the law for  
> anyone to
> conspire to overthrow the US government by force or  violence.

It was also against the law to conspire to overthrow King George III.

"That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men,  
deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, — That  
whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it  
is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to  
institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles  
and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most  
likely to effect their Safety and Happiness."


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Re: [OT] New Strider Knife

2007-04-26 Thread Leland F. Jackson, CPA
Of course, I'm talk about the right to bear arms.

A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free 
State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be 
infringed.

http://www.usconstitution.net/const.html#Am2

Regards,

LelandJ

Ed Leafe wrote:
> On Apr 26, 2007, at 7:47 PM, Leland F. Jackson, CPA wrote:
>
>   
>> Who here is a believer in the 2nd Admendment to the Constitution?
>> 
>
>   Which part of it? Or the thing in its entirety?
>
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Re: [OT] New Strider Knife

2007-04-26 Thread Ed Leafe
On Apr 26, 2007, at 7:47 PM, Leland F. Jackson, CPA wrote:

> Who here is a believer in the 2nd Admendment to the Constitution?

Which part of it? Or the thing in its entirety?

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RE: [OT] New Strider Knife

2007-04-26 Thread David Crooks
On Thursday, April 26, 2007 7:48 PM Leland F. Jackson, CPA wrote:

>Who here is a believer in the 2nd Admendment to the Constitution?  I 
>recently added a new pocket knife as a member of my collection.   It is

>a Strider knife model "SnG Drop Point (Gen6) Folder".  It is my
understanding Strider knives are the best.  
>Below are links to a few pictures.  The handgun on the left is my
90-TWO, and the handgun on the right is my 
>PX4.  I also purchased a new GunVault to keep the handgun secure when
not neede, but with quick, fast access if >the shit ever hit the fan.



I support the right to arm bears!  

Also, I see who will win the duel between the knife and the handgun!

David L. Crooks

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