[OT] Hey, Euro guys - how did this end up?

2009-03-26 Thread Pete Theisen
Hi Everybody!

Lookie here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QVeMBNB0cIIfeature=related

Sounds like some of our stuffed shirts - and we have a second amendment!
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RE: avcxclasses used in a runtime environment

2009-03-26 Thread Coppens, Georges, FC (Provincialaat)

 Finally I changed the approach to:
1. apply solution only in the runtime environment
2. copy vcx to tempory table: Select * from vcxname into table tmptable
3. use the AVCXCLASSES method to create the array with class names
4. delete the tempory table
5. use the ASCAN method for a lookup of the classname
 

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Coppens, Georges, FC (Provincialaat)
Verzonden: woensdag 11 maart 2009 11:23
Aan: profoxt...@leafe.com
Onderwerp: avcxclasses used in a runtime environment

To instantiate a grid I have to test the existence of a class in a classlib.  
There is no problem in the development environment.  But once the classlib is 
included in an application and the classlib is not a physical file on disk the 
named vcx is not found.
In the form load method:
THISFORM.cAppClassLib=app.vcx
SET CLASSLIB TO app.vcx IN acerta.exe ADDITIVE In the 'anychange' method:
lcAlias=THISFORM.aAlias(THIS.VALUE)
SELECT (lcAlias)
lnMax=AVCXCLASSES(laClass,THISFORM.cAppClassLib)
The last line generates the error: file not found.
 
What's wrong with this code?
 
Thanks.
 
Georges Coppens
  


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RE: File Copy Problem

2009-03-26 Thread Alan Bourke


On Wed, 25 Mar 2009 21:49 +, Peter Hart
ph...@peterhartcomputers.co.uk wrote:

 Does anyone know of a way to make sure when a file is copied to another
 file the new file will keep its case.

Peter

I know your problem is solved here but I'm not getting why case is
important in the first place ?

 
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Re: [OT] DEA AGENT SHOOTS OWN FOOT

2009-03-26 Thread Pete Theisen
Leland F. Jackson, CPA wrote:
 DEA agent shoots own foot with Glock SW40.

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mhIJOVD8hwY

Hi Leland!

Turns out the guy sued the federals over it. Claims it embarrassed him 
to have the video released. That, and the mandatory race card.

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/0411061foot1.html

I understand Glocks are prone to that kind of accident. Pull the trigger 
even a little and it fires. Of course, that is HOW guns fire, but most 
take a REAL pull as opposed to the Glock's soft touch. How soft? Maybe 
as little as 5 LB.

http://www.browardcrime.com/gun_maker_glock_frequently_sued_.htm
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RE: File Copy Problem

2009-03-26 Thread Peter Hart
Hi Alan

Ask the Female operators that.  The consensus from the operators was,
all the Males said it didn't matter and most of the Females said it
looked prettier and was easier to read.  After viewing the results I had
to agree.

Cheers

Peter



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On Wed, 25 Mar 2009 21:49 +, Peter Hart
ph...@peterhartcomputers.co.uk wrote:

 Does anyone know of a way to make sure when a file is copied to
another
 file the new file will keep its case.

Peter

I know your problem is solved here but I'm not getting why case is
important in the first place ?

 
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[OT] Gordon Brown gets torn a new one.

2009-03-26 Thread Michael Madigan

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=94lW6Y4tBXseurl=http%3A%2F%2F


* 
Join the OBAMA RESISTANCE MOVEMENT!

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[JOB] VFP in Atlanta area

2009-03-26 Thread Stephen Russell
Type: Permanent
Position: Visual FoxPro Developer - 78014
Skills: Northrop Grumman requires a proficient Visual Foxpro developer
  to support a Vaccine Management system for the Centers for Disease
  Control and Prevention (CDC). The successful candidate will have
  extensive experience developing complex applications in Microsoft
  Visual Foxpro. Skills and abilities required include: Design and create
  functionality in Foxpro and be able to perform development and system
  enhancements in Visual Foxpro. Analyze and enhance existing
  applications. Optimize code to reduce redundancy. Excellent knowledge
  of database design fundamentals and Datamodelling tools. Ability to
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  with team members while learning from them. Provide support for help
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  deployment of .NET Framework applications is desired. Experience
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[OT] Mexico Drug violence images

2009-03-26 Thread Stephen Russell
Amazing set of pictures from the war that is raging today.

http://www.boston.com/bigpicture/2009/03/mexicos_drug_war.html

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Re: [OT] DEA AGENT SHOOTS OWN FOOT

2009-03-26 Thread Leland F. Jackson, CPA
That's hilarious.  Thanks for the chuckle.

Regards,

LelandJ





Pete Theisen wrote:
 Leland F. Jackson, CPA wrote:
   
 DEA agent shoots own foot with Glock SW40.
 

   
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mhIJOVD8hwY
 

 Hi Leland!

 Turns out the guy sued the federals over it. Claims it embarrassed him 
 to have the video released. That, and the mandatory race card.

 http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/0411061foot1.html

 I understand Glocks are prone to that kind of accident. Pull the trigger 
 even a little and it fires. Of course, that is HOW guns fire, but most 
 take a REAL pull as opposed to the Glock's soft touch. How soft? Maybe 
 as little as 5 LB.

 http://www.browardcrime.com/gun_maker_glock_frequently_sued_.htm
   



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Foxpro job in Florida

2009-03-26 Thread Michael J. Babcock, MCP
FoxPro Analyst


Job Summary

The Programmer/Analyst will primarily support the development, deployment
and maintenance of FoxPro and Windows applications, and will also engage
in supporting production applications primarily in the area of EDIs
developed with FoxPro.


Minimum Qualifications

1.Bachelor's degree in Computer Science, Information Technology or
Information Systems OR Associate Degree/some college and equivalent work
experience
2.Five (5) years professional experience in the IT field
3.Five (5) years Visual FoxPro development experience (version 7 and/or
higher)
4.Two (2) years Oracle Database programming experience
5.Two (2) years Object Oriented programming
6.Knowledge of database design fundamentals and use of data modeling tools
7.Good organizational abilities, oral communications, and interpersonal
skills
8.Ability to work with users to define needs, coordinate development, and
provide training
9.Knowledge of customer service standards and procedures and a commitment
to excellence in customer service
10.Ability to investigate and analyze information and to draw conclusions
11.Good technical writing skills and willingness to adequately document
all work performed
12.Knowledge and skills in systems analysis, systems design and
information architecture to effectively design and create databases


Preferred Qualifications

1.One to two (1-2) years .Net application development using C#
2.One to two (1-2) years ASP.NET WEB development experience
3.Ability/willingness to learn healthcare vocabulary and syntax standards
(ICD9, CPT4, ICD10, LOINC, SNOMED, UMLS, HL7)
4.Knowledge of current technological developments/trends in area of expertise
5.Knowledge of Visual Source Safe
6.Knowledge of SDLC and Agile methodologies
7.Knowledge of UML, XML and SOA




Primary Responsibilities

1.Primary responsibility for the support of applications and tools in
FoxPro including installation, updates/patches, upgrades, coding
optimization, and resource management
2.Assist with administration, maintenance, development and implementation
of legacy and new application designs
3.Participate in a second-level support team when applications or EDI
transfers are deemed to be a support issue, including cross training other
team members in fundamental support to better understand and effectively
assume responsibility when programmers are not available
4.Review, program, test and apply changes and/or modifications to software
applications
5.Work with IT Operations team to maintain server and client applications
and patches on a Microsoft Windows environment


If interested, contact:
Nick Avren
Technical Recruiter
Apex Systems, Inc.
4010 Boy Scout BLVD
Tampa FL.33607
813-281-8800
866-280-2739
Fax: 813-639-9877
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Re: [JOB] VFP in Atlanta area

2009-03-26 Thread MB Software Solutions General Account
Stephen Russell wrote:
 Type: Permanent
 Position: Visual FoxPro Developer - 78014
 Skills: Northrop Grumman requires a proficient Visual Foxpro developer
   to support a Vaccine Management system for the Centers for Disease
   Control and Prevention (CDC). The successful candidate will have
   extensive experience developing complex applications in Microsoft
   Visual Foxpro. Skills and abilities required include: Design and create
   functionality in Foxpro and be able to perform development and system
   enhancements in Visual Foxpro. Analyze and enhance existing
   applications. Optimize code to reduce redundancy. Excellent knowledge
   of database design fundamentals and Datamodelling tools. Ability to
   research concepts, develop action items, and implement them to realize
   the goal of optimized code in a functional application that meets
   customer needs. Keen organizational, verbal, and writing skills. Work
   effectively in an existing cohesive team environment, sharing knowledge
   with team members while learning from them. Provide support for help
   desk representatives as needed. Experience with SQL Server and the
   deployment of .NET Framework applications is desired. Experience
   working within a government contract environment is a plus.
 Location: Atlanta, GA
 Apply Now: http://www.jobserve.us/ACR.aspx?a=47824158E8607D40D0
 Not Interested:
http://www.jobserve.us/AlchemyReject.aspx?a=2C085743E3F58CB5




Steve,

Why do I see your name/info when I click on the link?

Good luck, though!
--Mike





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Re: [OT] hockey goals top ten video

2009-03-26 Thread MB Software Solutions General Account
Stephen Russell wrote:
 http://www.picvi.com/2009/03/25/hockey-goals/




Thanks!  I loved it!  I'm in the off-season now on my men's team...we
start again in late May.

Anyone else play ice hockey here besides me and Lou?




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Re: [OT] Hey, Euro guys - how did this end up?

2009-03-26 Thread Leland F. Jackson, CPA
Here's more about the object of contention; Treaty of Lisbon.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treaty_of_Lisbon

Regards,

LelandJ


Pete Theisen wrote:
 Hi Everybody!

 Lookie here:

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QVeMBNB0cIIfeature=related

 Sounds like some of our stuffed shirts - and we have a second amendment!
   


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Re: File Copy Problem

2009-03-26 Thread MB Software Solutions General Account
Peter Hart wrote:
 Hi Alan

 Ask the Female operators that.  The consensus from the operators was,
 all the Males said it didn't matter and most of the Females said it
 looked prettier and was easier to read.  After viewing the results I had
 to agree.


but in the end, it's just the same file on the machine, regardless of
case?  Ughsome people!!!




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Re: [JOB] VFP in Atlanta area

2009-03-26 Thread Alan Bourke
I thought Northrop Grumman made aircraft. 
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Re: File Copy Problem

2009-03-26 Thread Alan Bourke
Sorry I had assumed there was some design/programmatic reason. Users eh?
Shoot the lot of them, I say.
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Re: [OT] hockey goals top ten video

2009-03-26 Thread Michael Oke, II
Yup.  Our seasons are just starting back up.


::michael

MB Software Solutions General Account wrote:
 Stephen Russell wrote:
 http://www.picvi.com/2009/03/25/hockey-goals/


 
 
 Thanks!  I loved it!  I'm in the off-season now on my men's team...we
 start again in late May.
 
 Anyone else play ice hockey here besides me and Lou?
 
 
 
 
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RE: File Copy Problem

2009-03-26 Thread Tracy Pearson
Well, case matters in some source control systems. That's why I know of
MoveFile(). When a Linux file system gets involved, the same filename with
different cases could be in the same folder, since they are not the same.

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Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2009 11:56 AM

Peter Hart wrote:
 Hi Alan

 Ask the Female operators that.  The consensus from the operators was, 
 all the Males said it didn't matter and most of the Females said it 
 looked prettier and was easier to read.  After viewing the results I 
 had to agree.


but in the end, it's just the same file on the machine, regardless of case?
Ughsome people!!!




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Re: File Copy Problem

2009-03-26 Thread Paul McNett
Tracy Pearson wrote:
 Well, case matters in some source control systems. That's why I know of
 MoveFile(). When a Linux file system gets involved, the same filename with
 different cases could be in the same folder, since they are not the same.

It isn't the OS that determines whether MyFile.txt or myfile.txt are the same 
file or 
not, but the filesystem in use.

ext3fs, the most common Linux filesystem, does indeed treat those as separate 
files, 
while ntfs and fat wouldn't.

Paul

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Re: File Copy Problem

2009-03-26 Thread Ed Leafe
On Mar 26, 2009, at 10:56 AM, MB Software Solutions General Account  
wrote:

 but in the end, it's just the same file on the machine, regardless of
 case?  Ughsome people!!!


That's true. I know that

WhoRepresents.txt

looks exactly the same as:

WHOREPRESENTS.TXT



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Re: File Copy Problem

2009-03-26 Thread MB Software Solutions General Account
Ed Leafe wrote:
 On Mar 26, 2009, at 10:56 AM, MB Software Solutions General Account
 wrote:

 but in the end, it's just the same file on the machine, regardless of
 case?  Ughsome people!!!


   That's true. I know that

   WhoRepresents.txt

 looks exactly the same as:

   WHOREPRESENTS.TXT


and the point is?  What's the difference?  What's the point of a
file system seeing filenames with case-sensitivity?




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Re: File Copy Problem

2009-03-26 Thread MB Software Solutions General Account
Paul McNett wrote:
 Tracy Pearson wrote:
 Well, case matters in some source control systems. That's why I know of
 MoveFile(). When a Linux file system gets involved, the same filename with
 different cases could be in the same folder, since they are not the same.

 It isn't the OS that determines whether MyFile.txt or myfile.txt are the
same file or
 not, but the filesystem in use.

 ext3fs, the most common Linux filesystem, does indeed treat those as
separate files,
 while ntfs and fat wouldn't.


What's the sense in that, Paul?  You folks who are proLinux could
probably explain it to us Windoze folks.




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Re: File Copy Problem

2009-03-26 Thread MB Software Solutions General Account
Tracy Pearson wrote:
 Well, case matters in some source control systems. That's why I know of
 MoveFile(). When a Linux file system gets involved, the same filename with
 different cases could be in the same folder, since they are not the same.


Ran into something similar recently with a MySQL database on a Debian
system.  My INSERT INTO statement used a different casing than the table
was on the web.  This kind of stuff makes me wonder WHY the Linux folks
insisted on casing sensitivities for filenames and stuff like this
database issue.  I mean, come on, does anyone really think the EMPLOYEE
table is different than the employee table?   STUPID




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Re: File Copy Problem

2009-03-26 Thread Stephen Russell
On Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 10:56 AM, MB Software Solutions General
Account mbsoftwaresoluti...@mbsoftwaresolutions.com wrote:
 Peter Hart wrote:
 Hi Alan

 Ask the Female operators that.  The consensus from the operators was,
 all the Males said it didn't matter and most of the Females said it
 looked prettier and was easier to read.  After viewing the results I had
 to agree.


 but in the end, it's just the same file on the machine, regardless of
 case?  Ughsome people!!!


Not on a Linux box.  ;-


-- 
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Sr. Production Systems Programmer
Web and Windows Development
Independent Contractor
Memphis TN

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Re: [JOB] VFP in Atlanta area

2009-03-26 Thread Stephen Russell
On Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 10:34 AM, MB Software Solutions General Account
 Steve,

 Why do I see your name/info when I click on the link?

 Good luck, though!
--

probably my data in teh key with that uri.



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[NF] listening to that servoy webinar

2009-03-26 Thread Stephen Russell
It just started.  He says FP a lot but you can tell that it is a
different product.

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Re: File Copy Problem

2009-03-26 Thread Steve Ellenoff
I would imagine it stems from the C programming language in that 
variables are case sensitive, and since Unix  Linux are very 
strongly tied to C, they probably kept the design concept the same 
when making the filesystem.

As to whether it makes sense or not, it's really what you are used 
to. Since we are mostly Windows users, it doesn't make sense, as we 
are not used to it. Unix/Linux natives are used to it, and probably 
think having them be equal despite case differences is foolish.

I will admit that I can't think of an objective reason why case 
sensitivity *should* matter for files, but there might be other 
people who can think of a good reason.

I mean, come on, does anyone really think the EMPLOYEE
table is different than the employee table?   STUPID


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[NF] joke

2009-03-26 Thread Stephen Russell
Important Women's Health Issue:

Do you have feelings of inadequacy?
Do you suffer from shyness?
Do you sometimes wish you were more assertive?

If you answered yes to any of these questions, ask your doctor or
pharmacist about

Margaritas.

Margaritas are the safe, natural way to feel better and more
confident  about yourself and your actions.

Margaritas can help ease you out of  your shyness and let you tell
the world that you're ready and willing to do just about anything.

You will notice the benefits of Margaritas almost immediately and
with a regimen of regular doses you can overcome any obstacles that
prevent
you from living the life you want to live. Shyness and awkwardness
will
be a thing of the past and you will discover many talents you never
knew you had.

Stop hiding and start living, with Margaritas..

Margaritas may not be right for everyone. Women who are pregnant or
nursing should not use Margaritas. However, women who wouldn't mind
nursing
or  becoming pregnant are encouraged to try it.

Side effects may include

Dizziness, nausea, vomiting, incarceration
Loss of motor control
Loss of clothing
Loss of money
Table dancing
Headache
Dehydration
Dry mouth
And a desire to sing Karaoke

WARNING: The consumption of Margaritas may make you think you are
whispering when you are not.

WARNING: The consumption of Margaritas may cause you to tell your
friends over and over again that you love them.

WARNING: The consumption of Margaritas may cause you to think you can 
sing.

WARNING: The consumption of Margaritas may make you think you can
logically converse with members of the opposite sex without spitting.

After careful research one has learned that red wine and champagne
may be interchangeable with the product - Margarita.

Please pass this on to your wives and girlfriends. Don't let that
inner shyness and low self esteem go untreated.

Try Margarita, little salt and lime


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Re: File Copy Problem

2009-03-26 Thread Paul McNett
MB Software Solutions General Account wrote:
 Paul McNett wrote:
 Tracy Pearson wrote:
 Well, case matters in some source control systems. That's why I know of
 MoveFile(). When a Linux file system gets involved, the same filename with
 different cases could be in the same folder, since they are not the same.
 It isn't the OS that determines whether MyFile.txt or myfile.txt are the
 same file or
 not, but the filesystem in use.

 ext3fs, the most common Linux filesystem, does indeed treat those as
 separate files,
 while ntfs and fat wouldn't.
 
 
 What's the sense in that, Paul?  You folks who are proLinux could
 probably explain it to us Windoze folks.

As I said, it isn't a Linux thing, it's a 'feature' of certain filesystems. 
Just 
because I'm a Linux user and advocate and use a case-sensitive filesystem 
doesn't 
mean I necessarily agree with it.

I believe it is simply one of those things that is there for historical 
reasons. We 
are talking about filesystems that have been evolving for 30+ years. Changing 
it now 
could cause a heap of trouble for existing files.

It also doesn't really cause as many problems as you appear to assume it would. 
The 
only time I've had an issue with this is back when I used to use CVS as my 
source 
control for VFP, and *VFP* had this really wonky behavior where it would change 
the 
case of certain file extensions, which would throw a wrench in the backend csv 
as now 
we have two files: the .vct and the .VCT. But I still blame that on VFP, not on 
CVS 
or Linux, or even the filesystem, as they were just doing what they were asked 
to do.


Paul

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Re: [JOB] VFP in Atlanta area

2009-03-26 Thread Paul McNett
Stephen Russell wrote:
 On Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 10:34 AM, MB Software Solutions General Account
 Steve,

 Why do I see your name/info when I click on the link?

 Good luck, though!
 --
 
 probably my data in teh key with that uri.

Ah, the license-plate method. That is *so* 1995!

Paul

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RE: File Copy Problem

2009-03-26 Thread Peter Hart
I can see all the arguments but if I can just add my pennies sorry (cents) 
worth isn't it the same as naming a variable using CamelCase Upper and lower 
case makes things so much more readable. Would we ever use Upper case for the 
lc part of lcTheFileIWantToSaveOnTheHardDrive.
My clients employees just felt that they could find a file in a folder so much 
easier using Upper Case for the filename and lower for the subsequent changes. 
Seeing the results now it does shout at you that these are the edited files. 
Anyway I was taught that the customer is King or dare I say Queen and should be 
treated as if they know best.

Cheers

Peter
Peter Hart Computers

By the way, it's just cost me approximately £10.00 more for each copy of 
Windows XP Professional OEM that I have just purchased.  Is that a ploy to get 
us to sell Vista or just because of the dollar exchange rate.  Computer 
components are cheaper than a few weeks ago.

-Original Message-
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Alan Bourke
Sent: 26 March 2009 16:01
To: profox@leafe.com
Subject: Re: File Copy Problem

Sorry I had assumed there was some design/programmatic reason. Users eh?
Shoot the lot of them, I say.
-- 
  Alan Bourke
  alanpbou...@fastmail.fm


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Re: File Copy Problem

2009-03-26 Thread Vince Teachout
MB Software Solutions General Account wrote:
 Ed Leafe wrote:
 On Mar 26, 2009, at 10:56 AM, MB Software Solutions General Account
 wrote:

 but in the end, it's just the same file on the machine, regardless of
 case?  Ughsome people!!!

  That's true. I know that

  WhoRepresents.txt

 looks exactly the same as:

  WHOREPRESENTS.TXT
 
 
 and the point is?  What's the difference?  What's the point of a
 file system seeing filenames with case-sensitivity?

Snicker.  It's actually a good example.  Look again, grasshopper.  Look 
CLOSER.

Being as I am, by nature, a Perv, I read the two examples above 
completely differently.  The first reminded me of contact information, 
then second reminded me of a shopping list.

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Re: File Copy Problem

2009-03-26 Thread Paul McNett
Paul McNett wrote:
 MB Software Solutions General Account wrote:
 Paul McNett wrote:
 Tracy Pearson wrote:
 Well, case matters in some source control systems. That's why I know of
 MoveFile(). When a Linux file system gets involved, the same filename with
 different cases could be in the same folder, since they are not the same.
 It isn't the OS that determines whether MyFile.txt or myfile.txt are the
 same file or
 not, but the filesystem in use.

 ext3fs, the most common Linux filesystem, does indeed treat those as
 separate files,
 while ntfs and fat wouldn't.

 What's the sense in that, Paul?  You folks who are proLinux could
 probably explain it to us Windoze folks.
 
 As I said, it isn't a Linux thing, it's a 'feature' of certain filesystems. 
 Just 
 because I'm a Linux user and advocate and use a case-sensitive filesystem 
 doesn't 
 mean I necessarily agree with it.
 
 I believe it is simply one of those things that is there for historical 
 reasons. We 
 are talking about filesystems that have been evolving for 30+ years. Changing 
 it now 
 could cause a heap of trouble for existing files.
 
 It also doesn't really cause as many problems as you appear to assume it 
 would. The 
 only time I've had an issue with this is back when I used to use CVS as my 
 source 
 control for VFP, and *VFP* had this really wonky behavior where it would 
 change the 
 case of certain file extensions, which would throw a wrench in the backend 
 csv as now 
 we have two files: the .vct and the .VCT. But I still blame that on VFP, not 
 on CVS 
 or Linux, or even the filesystem, as they were just doing what they were 
 asked to do.

Oh, I forgot to mention the main reason I like case-sensitivity in general: It 
doesn't let you get sloppy. I look back at my VFP code today, code I was proud 
of, 
and I can't believe how inconsistent I was in whitespace and casing. Things 
like:

IF ...
  ...
  ...
else
  ...
  ...
endif

and calling it m.CustomerName in one place and m.customername in another.

Case-sensitivity simply doesn't allow for this unforgivable sloppiness, so the 
sloppiness doesn't happen in the first place.

I think the same argument could be made for files in a filesystem. Being sloppy 
with 
naming will result in problems.

Paul

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RE: File Copy Problem

2009-03-26 Thread Matt Jarvis
 -Original Message-
 From: profoxtech-boun...@leafe.com 
 [mailto:profoxtech-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Paul McNett
 Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2009 10:16 AM
 To: profoxt...@leafe.com
 Subject: Re: File Copy Problem
 

 Case-sensitivity simply doesn't allow for this unforgivable 
 sloppiness, 
 

I'll forgive you Paul

(but the compiler won't)


Matt Jarvis
Programmer/DBA
King | Retail Solutions 
 




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Update field value

2009-03-26 Thread Jim Harvey
I'd like to update a field value by allowing the user to click a button that
has a value as it's caption.

There will be multiple buttons each with its own distinct value.

I can put code in the click of each button knowing it's assigned value, and
that will do the job, but would rather use a form method.

Is there a way to have the method determine which button was clicked, and
therefore assign the new value to the field.

The code I'm using now in the button.click is:

SELECT bidboard

UPDATE bidboard SET amount = 6000

llok = tableupdate(1,.f.,'bidboard')

thisform.refresh



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Re: Update field value

2009-03-26 Thread Vince Teachout
Jim Harvey wrote:
 I'd like to update a field value by allowing the user to click a button that
 has a value as it's caption.
 
 There will be multiple buttons each with its own distinct value.
 
 I can put code in the click of each button knowing it's assigned value, and
 that will do the job, but would rather use a form method.
 
 Is there a way to have the method determine which button was clicked, and
 therefore assign the new value to the field.
 
 The code I'm using now in the button.click is:
 
 SELECT bidboard
 
 UPDATE bidboard SET amount = 6000
 
 llok = tableupdate(1,.f.,'bidboard')
 
 thisform.refresh


If I'm following you correctly, I would create a form method MyMethod 
with a parameter.  In the button click, I'd either call 
Thisform.MyMethod(1)  (Where the numeric is different for each button), 
or better yet ThisForm.MyMethod(this.name) (allowing for exactly the 
same code in each button)

Then in the method, use a CASE statement, and proceed from there.

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Re: File Copy Problem

2009-03-26 Thread Malcolm Greene
Vince,

 WhoRepresents.txt
 looks exactly the same as:
 WHOREPRESENTS.TXT

 The first reminded me of contact information, 
 The second reminded me of a shopping list

ABSOLUTELY BRILLIANT!! :)

I'm going to be laughing about your remark all day.

Thanks!

Malcolm

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Re: File Copy Problem

2009-03-26 Thread Steve Ellenoff
You're 100% right, I think it's one of VFP's few downsides. I wish 
there was a way to *enforce* case sensitivity with variables in VFP 
(consistency is a good thing).

To some extent, perhaps I'd even like to see strict data typing, 
although I wouldn't want to lose macro expansion and other cool 
tricks as a result.

Whenever I spend lots of time working in C/C++, and switch back to 
VFP, and see my all my unintentional inconsistencies with case, and 
who knows about data typing mistakes, it makes me shudder. It's the 
only major limitation in my mind of VFP, but then again, I'm willing 
to bet most other VFP coders probably see it as a big advantage. I 
just wish there was an option to support both ways.


Oh, I forgot to mention the main reason I like case-sensitivity in 
general: It
doesn't let you get sloppy. I look back at my VFP code today, code I 
was proud of,
and I can't believe how inconsistent I was in whitespace and casing. 
Things like:

IF ...
   ...
   ...
else
   ...
   ...
endif

and calling it m.CustomerName in one place and m.customername in another.

Case-sensitivity simply doesn't allow for this unforgivable 
sloppiness, so the
sloppiness doesn't happen in the first place.

I think the same argument could be made for files in a filesystem. 
Being sloppy with
naming will result in problems.

Paul


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RE: File Copy Problem

2009-03-26 Thread Tracy Pearson
That reminds me of the NOWHERE folder on OS/2. The developer meant is as
NowHere and many users saw it as NoWhere. There were hidden files in the
folder, but it looked empty. Delete the folder and all the desktop icons
would go away.

-Original Message-
From: Vince Teachout
Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2009 1:12 PM

MB Software Solutions General Account wrote:
 Ed Leafe wrote:
 On Mar 26, 2009, at 10:56 AM, MB Software Solutions General Account
 wrote:

 but in the end, it's just the same file on the machine, regardless 
 of case?  Ughsome people!!!

  That's true. I know that

  WhoRepresents.txt

 looks exactly the same as:

  WHOREPRESENTS.TXT
 
 
 and the point is?  What's the difference?  What's the point of a 
 file system seeing filenames with case-sensitivity?

Snicker.  It's actually a good example.  Look again, grasshopper.  Look
CLOSER.

Being as I am, by nature, a Perv, I read the two examples above completely
differently.  The first reminded me of contact information, then second
reminded me of a shopping list.


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Re: [NF] joke

2009-03-26 Thread Ed Leafe
On Mar 26, 2009, at 12:08 PM, Stephen Russell wrote:

   Important Women's Health Issue:


[OT], please. There is nothing technical in this post.


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Re: File Copy Problem

2009-03-26 Thread Ed Leafe
On Mar 26, 2009, at 11:50 AM, MB Software Solutions General Account  
wrote:

  That's true. I know that

  WhoRepresents.txt

 looks exactly the same as:

  WHOREPRESENTS.TXT


 and the point is?  What's the difference?

Most people see the second and read it as 'whore presents'. That was  
the intended humor.

 What's the point of a file system seeing filenames with case- 
 sensitivity?

So you think that 'E' and 'e' should be the same letter? What about  
these: É, é, Ë, ë, Ê, ê

How about C, c, Ç and ç?

Case-insensitivity is a difficult issue involving character sets,  
encodings, collations, etc. But even if you stick to plain old ASCII,  
just remember that 69 != 101.


-- Ed Leafe


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RE: [NF] joke

2009-03-26 Thread John
Technically speaking, that is correct!

John Harvey



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On Mar 26, 2009, at 12:08 PM, Stephen Russell wrote:

   Important Women's Health Issue:


[OT], please. There is nothing technical in this post.


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Re: Update field value

2009-03-26 Thread Stephen Russell
On Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 1:22 PM, Jim Harvey jhar...@hanoverpa.com wrote:
 I'd like to update a field value by allowing the user to click a button that
 has a value as it's caption.

 There will be multiple buttons each with its own distinct value.

 I can put code in the click of each button knowing it's assigned value, and
 that will do the job, but would rather use a form method.

 Is there a way to have the method determine which button was clicked, and
 therefore assign the new value to the field.

 The code I'm using now in the button.click is:

 SELECT bidboard

 UPDATE bidboard SET amount = 6000

 llok = tableupdate(1,.f.,'bidboard')

 thisform.refresh
-

just a guess here:

Click event for each button calls a single method with a param that
states the button.text

You can then use a CASE to separate the code that is unique to the button.

HTH


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Re: File Copy Problem

2009-03-26 Thread Jean Laeremans
On Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 5:24 PM, Ed Leafe e...@leafe.com wrote:
 On Mar 26, 2009, at 10:56 AM, MB Software Solutions General Account
 wrote:

 but in the end, it's just the same file on the machine, regardless of
 case?  Ughsome people!!!


        That's true. I know that

        WhoRepresents.txt

 looks exactly the same as:

        WHOREPRESENTS.TXT


Only if you have a dirty mind.

A+
jml

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[OT] Grow our economy?

2009-03-26 Thread Stephen Russell
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0309/20526.html

Legalize pot to generate new jobs.

pretty funny.

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RE: [OT] Grow our economy?

2009-03-26 Thread John
Yep, in the medical field, treating all the potheads for crashes.

John Harvey


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http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0309/20526.html

Legalize pot to generate new jobs.

pretty funny.

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Re: [NF] joke

2009-03-26 Thread MB Software Solutions General Account
Stephen Russell wrote:
   Important Women's Health Issue:


Steve...I think you've been having too many of these margaritas...this
is [OT]!




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Re: [NF] listening to that servoy webinar

2009-03-26 Thread MB Software Solutions General Account
Stephen Russell wrote:
 It just started.  He says FP a lot but you can tell that it is a
 different product.



Well...it IS a different product!  Didn't DotNet take the same approach
on their marketing to VFPers?




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Re: File Copy Problem

2009-03-26 Thread MB Software Solutions General Account
Paul McNett wrote:
 As I said, it isn't a Linux thing, it's a 'feature' of certain
filesystems. Just
 because I'm a Linux user and advocate and use a case-sensitive
filesystem doesn't
 mean I necessarily agree with it.

 I believe it is simply one of those things that is there for historical
reasons. We
 are talking about filesystems that have been evolving for 30+ years.
Changing it now
 could cause a heap of trouble for existing files.


Ok, but the programmer who deliberately has two tables (Employees and
employees) should be shot on sight/site.  eg




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Re: File Copy Problem

2009-03-26 Thread MB Software Solutions General Account
Peter Hart wrote:
 By the way, it's just cost me approximately £10.00 more for each copy of
Windows XP Professional OEM that I have just purchased.  Is that a ploy
to get us to sell Vista or just because of the dollar exchange rate. 
Computer components are cheaper than a few weeks ago.


You've got to pay for the downgrade to WinXP...that's the way they
sold the notion awhile back, any way.




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Re: File Copy Problem

2009-03-26 Thread MB Software Solutions General Account
Vince Teachout wrote:
 Snicker.  It's actually a good example.  Look again, grasshopper.  Look
 CLOSER.

 Being as I am, by nature, a Perv, I read the two examples above
 completely differently.  The first reminded me of contact information,
 then second reminded me of a shopping list.


Aaaah yesI see it now!




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Re: File Copy Problem

2009-03-26 Thread MB Software Solutions General Account
Paul McNett wrote:
 Oh, I forgot to mention the main reason I like case-sensitivity in
general: It
 doesn't let you get sloppy. I look back at my VFP code today, code I was
proud of,
 and I can't believe how inconsistent I was in whitespace and casing.
Things like:

 IF ...
   ...
   ...
 else
   ...
   ...
 endif

 and calling it m.CustomerName in one place and m.customername in another.

 Case-sensitivity simply doesn't allow for this unforgivable sloppiness,
so the
 sloppiness doesn't happen in the first place.

Well, you certainly set the bar high (or higher than most), sir!  ;-)


 I think the same argument could be made for files in a filesystem. Being
sloppy with
 naming will result in problems.

Nopenot gonna side with you on that one.  When it comes to the file
system, I shouldn't have to care if it's saved as Crap or CRAP or crap
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Re: File Copy Problem

2009-03-26 Thread MB Software Solutions General Account
Ed Leafe wrote:
   Most people see the second and read it as 'whore presents'. That was
 the intended humor.

 What's the point of a file system seeing filenames with case-
 sensitivity?

   So you think that 'E' and 'e' should be the same letter? What about
 these: É, é, Ë, ë, Ê, ê

   How about C, c, Ç and ç?

   Case-insensitivity is a difficult issue involving character sets,
 encodings, collations, etc. But even if you stick to plain old ASCII,
 just remember that 69 != 101.


Jeez, Ed...what hoops did you have to go through to type those
characters?  The going the extra mile award today goes to Ed Leafe for
demonstrating above and beyond the normal poster!!!

Everyone should just use plain ol' simple Engrish.  gdr   JK!!




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Re: Update field value

2009-03-26 Thread MB Software Solutions General Account
Vince Teachout wrote:
 Jim Harvey wrote:
 I'd like to update a field value by allowing the user to click a button
that
 has a value as it's caption.

 There will be multiple buttons each with its own distinct value.

 I can put code in the click of each button knowing it's assigned value,
and
 that will do the job, but would rather use a form method.

 Is there a way to have the method determine which button was clicked, and
 therefore assign the new value to the field.

 The code I'm using now in the button.click is:

 SELECT bidboard

 UPDATE bidboard SET amount = 6000

 llok = tableupdate(1,.f.,'bidboard')

 thisform.refresh


 If I'm following you correctly, I would create a form method MyMethod
 with a parameter.  In the button click, I'd either call
 Thisform.MyMethod(1)  (Where the numeric is different for each button),
 or better yet ThisForm.MyMethod(this.name) (allowing for exactly the
 same code in each button)


Vince -- you meant ThisForm.MyMethod(this) (...not just the name
attribute, but the actual object) right?




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Re: File Copy Problem

2009-03-26 Thread Paul McNett
MB Software Solutions General Account wrote:
 Ok, but the programmer who deliberately has two tables (Employees and
 employees) should be shot on sight/site.  eg

No, there may be good reasoning behind it, that works for them.

Paul

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Re: File Copy Problem

2009-03-26 Thread Paul McNett
MB Software Solutions General Account wrote:
 Jeez, Ed...what hoops did you have to go through to type those
 characters?  The going the extra mile award today goes to Ed Leafe for
 demonstrating above and beyond the normal poster!!!

Ed's great, but typing special characters isn't hard at all. Just type 
Option+e, then 
type the letter you want to accent. So, Option+e,a yields á. Option+u,e yields 
ë. Etc.

What y'all should do is consider upgrading your computers to something modern.

;)

Paul

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Re: [OT] Grow our economy?

2009-03-26 Thread Pete Theisen
John wrote:
 Yep, in the medical field, treating all the potheads for crashes.

Hi John!

I worked in the body shop business for several years. The difference 
between a pot fueled crash and an alcohol fueled crash is profound.

When you find beer cans in the car it is sort of bad, when you find pot 
seeds the thing is nearly totaled if it is new, it is totaled if it is 
older.
 
 http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0309/20526.html
 
 Legalize pot to generate new jobs.
-- 
Regards,

Pete
http://pete-theisen.com/
http://elect-pete-theisen.com/

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Re: File Copy Problem

2009-03-26 Thread Jean Laeremans
On Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 8:02 PM, Paul McNett p...@ulmcnett.com wrote:
 MB Software Solutions General Account wrote:
 Jeez, Ed...what hoops did you have to go through to type those
 characters?  The going the extra mile award today goes to Ed Leafe for
 demonstrating above and beyond the normal poster!!!

 Ed's great, but typing special characters isn't hard at all. Just type 
 Option+e, then
 type the letter you want to accent. So, Option+e,a yields á. Option+u,e 
 yields ë. Etc.

 What y'all should do is consider upgrading your computers to something modern.

 ;)

 Paul

And i have them on my keyboard

A+
jml

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Re: [NF] listening to that servoy webinar

2009-03-26 Thread Stephen Russell
On Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 1:54 PM, MB Software Solutions General Account
mbsoftwaresoluti...@mbsoftwaresolutions.com wrote:
 Stephen Russell wrote:
 It just started.  He says FP a lot but you can tell that it is a
 different product.



 Well...it IS a different product!  Didn't DotNet take the same approach
 on their marketing to VFPers?


I listened to it and got a few laughs out of it.  I called one of
their staff after it was over.

They are an outfit with a good product.  Costly as well.  They don't
go into the license that states that you are going to have them on
site to help you get up to speed.

They say that the same end product you are creating will run on either
web or win no code needed for that separation.

They also state that one beni in their code will force data changes
done on other workstations to your display in real time, in both web
or win.  That just sounds like a con.  Web is dissociated from data.

They site a company that started in the first version of .NET and then
converted to ver 2 and then again for ver 3.5  They had 2500 forms and
more reports.  They said that the project was only 75% complete in 3
years.  4 developers who were also doing break fix on old system.

I have no idea on the form complexity for this app but I think that a
complex form is probably 16-32 hrs or maybe more depending on the
requirements.  So taking the low end value, 16hrs, that times 70% of
the bulk forms requires 13.46 man years  just for the forms, let alone
the reporting.

This is a monster app.  Not sure how long I would have put into a
project plan.







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Re: Update field value

2009-03-26 Thread Vince Teachout
MB Software Solutions General Account wrote:


 Vince -- you meant ThisForm.MyMethod(this) (...not just the name
 attribute, but the actual object) right?

No, in my example (again, assuming I understood the question) only a 
property that can be tested by a CASE statement needs to be passed.

So if the Button name was ButtVal1, the click method 
Thisform.MyMethod(this.name) would send the parm ButtVal1 to the 
method, and a CASE would then process for ( CASE lMyParm = ButtVal1 )







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Re: File Copy Problem

2009-03-26 Thread Stephen Russell
On Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 1:33 PM, Jean Laeremans
laeremans.jeanma...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 5:24 PM, Ed Leafe e...@leafe.com wrote:
 On Mar 26, 2009, at 10:56 AM, MB Software Solutions General Account
 wrote:

 but in the end, it's just the same file on the machine, regardless of
 case?  Ughsome people!!!


        That's true. I know that

        WhoRepresents.txt

 looks exactly the same as:

        WHOREPRESENTS.TXT


 Only if you have a dirty mind.

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[NF] SQL Server - is a table locked?

2009-03-26 Thread Matt Jarvis

Trying to track down some oddball behavior and suspect a file lock
issue...

I'm trying to get a list of tables (or whatever) that SQL Server 2000
might have locked and am attempting to use a combo of sp_lock and a
SELECT of some sort to make it happen. I'm not familiar enough with this
stuff to know how to manipulate output from one thing to another.

Something like:

exec sp_lock( select id from sysobjects);
 
Am I on the right track or can someone show me the magic key?

TIA, 

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Re: Update field value

2009-03-26 Thread Fred Taylor
On Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 12:29 PM, Vince Teachout tea...@taconic.net wrote:

 MB Software Solutions General Account wrote:


  Vince -- you meant ThisForm.MyMethod(this) (...not just the name
  attribute, but the actual object) right?

 No, in my example (again, assuming I understood the question) only a
 property that can be tested by a CASE statement needs to be passed.

 So if the Button name was ButtVal1, the click method
 Thisform.MyMethod(this.name) would send the parm ButtVal1 to the
 method, and a CASE would then process for ( CASE lMyParm = ButtVal1 )







 So why not pass this?  You can then reference the button.Caption (or any
 other property) directly and not need any CASE statement.


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Re: File Copy Problem

2009-03-26 Thread MB Software Solutions General Account
Paul McNett wrote:
 MB Software Solutions General Account wrote:
 Ok, but the programmer who deliberately has two tables (Employees and
 employees) should be shot on sight/site.  eg

 No, there may be good reasoning behind it, that works for them.


I'm buying this guy the best steak dinner available if he can justify to
me why he needs 2 tables--one called Employees and another called employees.




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Re: File Copy Problem

2009-03-26 Thread MB Software Solutions General Account
Paul McNett wrote:
 What y'all should do is consider upgrading your computers to something
modern.

 ;)

 Paul


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Re: Update field value

2009-03-26 Thread MB Software Solutions General Account
Vince Teachout wrote:
 No, in my example (again, assuming I understood the question) only a
 property that can be tested by a CASE statement needs to be passed.

 So if the Button name was ButtVal1, the click method
 Thisform.MyMethod(this.name) would send the parm ButtVal1 to the
 method, and a CASE would then process for ( CASE lMyParm = ButtVal1 )


Oh...I thought you meant that they were similar objects and hence had
the same interface, so referring to the common object was the way.




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Re: Update field value

2009-03-26 Thread MB Software Solutions General Account
Fred Taylor wrote:
 So why not pass this?  You can then reference the button.Caption (or any
 other property) directly and not need any CASE statement.


 --
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My point exactly.




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Re: Update field value

2009-03-26 Thread Vince Teachout
Fred Taylor wrote:
 On Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 12:29 PM, Vince Teachout tea...@taconic.net wrote:
 

 So why not pass this?  You can then reference the button.Caption (or any
 other property) directly and not need any CASE statement.

In this example, how does it eliminate the need for CASE?

Again, assuming I am understanding the problem correctly (ie, change a 
value, depending on which button I pressed.), what's the difference 
between:

CASE myParam = button1

and

CASE oMyParam.Name = button1

?

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Re: File Copy Problem

2009-03-26 Thread Vince Teachout
MB Software Solutions General Account wrote:

 
 I'm buying this guy the best steak dinner available if he can justify to
 me why he needs 2 tables--one called Employees and another called employees.

One for the IMPORTANT Employees, and one for the rest of us!

I'll take my steak medium rare, please!

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RE: Update field value

2009-03-26 Thread Tracy Pearson
Going back to the original request:

 I'd like to update a field value by allowing the user to click a button
that has a value as it's caption.   

Would result with:   
UPDATE bidboard SET amount = val(oButton.Caption)

-Original Message-
From: Vince Teachout
Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2009 4:30 PM

Fred Taylor wrote:
 On Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 12:29 PM, Vince Teachout tea...@taconic.net
wrote:
 

 So why not pass this?  You can then reference the button.Caption 
 (or any other property) directly and not need any CASE statement.

In this example, how does it eliminate the need for CASE?

Again, assuming I am understanding the problem correctly (ie, change a
value, depending on which button I pressed.), what's the difference
between:

CASE myParam = button1

and

CASE oMyParam.Name = button1

?



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Re: Update field value

2009-03-26 Thread Vince Teachout
Tracy Pearson wrote:
 Going back to the original request:
 
 I'd like to update a field value by allowing the user to click a button
 that has a value as it's caption.   
 
 Would result with:   
 UPDATE bidboard SET amount = val(oButton.Caption)

Or, again, within a form method, which was my understanding:

UPDATE bidboard SET amount = val(MyParm)


Tomato, TaMahto.




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Re: Update field value

2009-03-26 Thread Vince Teachout
Tracy Pearson wrote:
 Going back to the original request:

I'm going to chalk this one up to I rushed through original e-mail, 
didn't understand the actual problem, and don't care enough to look up 
the original on the archives.  Especially since the actual problem 
seems to have been solved.




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Re: [NF] SQL Server - is a table locked?

2009-03-26 Thread Alan Bourke
Some T-SQL to do it:

snip
SELECT t1.request_session_id as spid, t1.resource_type as type,
t1.resource_database_id as dbid,

(case resource_type WHEN 'OBJECT' THEN
object_name(t1.resource_associated_entity_id) WHEN 'DATABASE' THEN '
'

ELSE

(SELECT object_name(object_id) FROM sys.partitions WHERE
hobt_id=resource_associated_entity_id)

END) AS objname,

t1.resource_description as description, t1.request_mode as mode,
t1.request_status as status, t2.blocking_session_id

FROM sys.dm_tran_locks AS t1 LEFT OUTER JOIN sys.dm_os_waiting_tasks
AS t2

ON t1.lock_owner_address = t2.resource_address

/snip


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Re: File Copy Problem

2009-03-26 Thread Malcolm Greene
Micheal,

 I'm buying this guy the best steak dinner available if he can justify
 to me why he needs 2 tables--one called Employees and another called
 employees.

- EMPLOYEES for 'upper'  employees (get the big bonuses)
- Employees for 'proper' employees (word hard, keep their mouth shut)
- employees for 'lower'  employees (hourly employees, contractors)

I'll looking forward to my steak dinner. ;)

Malcolm

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Re: File Copy Problem

2009-03-26 Thread MB Software Solutions General Account
Vince Teachout wrote:
 MB Software Solutions General Account wrote:

 I'm buying this guy the best steak dinner available if he can justify to
 me why he needs 2 tables--one called Employees and another called
employees.

 One for the IMPORTANT Employees, and one for the rest of us!

 I'll take my steak medium rare, please!

LOL!!!  You and Malcolm and I can eat at Fleming's here in Baltimore...the
absolute best steak dinner I've ever had!!!

http://www.flemingssteakhouse.com/




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Re: Update field value

2009-03-26 Thread KAM.covad
I agree with this. We have something similar. The name of the button should be 
the value you want to store. The caption should be something similar. In 
cmdbutton.click() put thisform.StoreThisValue(This.Name)
Now you can simply copy this button and change the name and caption of the 
other buttons. No need to change click()

Depending on your values, you could make that the caption and pass this.caption 
so you do not need to modify the button names


- Original Message - 
From: Vince Teachout 
To: ProFox Email List 
Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2009 10:25 AM
Subject: Re: Update field value


Jim Harvey wrote:
 I'd like to update a field value by allowing the user to click a button that
 has a value as it's caption.
 
 There will be multiple buttons each with its own distinct value.
 
 I can put code in the click of each button knowing it's assigned value, and
 that will do the job, but would rather use a form method.
 
 Is there a way to have the method determine which button was clicked, and
 therefore assign the new value to the field.
 
 The code I'm using now in the button.click is:
 
 SELECT bidboard
 
 UPDATE bidboard SET amount = 6000
 
 llok = tableupdate(1,.f.,'bidboard')
 
 thisform.refresh


If I'm following you correctly, I would create a form method MyMethod 
with a parameter.  In the button click, I'd either call 
Thisform.MyMethod(1)  (Where the numeric is different for each button), 
or better yet ThisForm.MyMethod(this.name) (allowing for exactly the 
same code in each button)

Then in the method, use a CASE statement, and proceed from there.

[excessive quoting removed by server]

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RE: [NF] SQL Server - is a table locked?

2009-03-26 Thread Matt Jarvis
 -Original Message-
 From: profoxtech-boun...@leafe.com 
 [mailto:profoxtech-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Alan Bourke
 Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2009 2:14 PM
 To: profoxt...@leafe.com
 Subject: Re: [NF] SQL Server - is a table locked?
 
 Some T-SQL to do it:
 
 snip
 SELECT t1.request_session_id as spid, t1.resource_type as 
 type, t1.resource_database_id as dbid,
 
snipped
 
 --
   Alan Bourke
   alanpbou...@fastmail.fm
 
 

Thanks Alan... but I'm getting an error msg when I run it... Is this
code for SQL Server 2000? I've run it with all my DB's and can't find
the missing sys related files:

Server: Msg 208, Level 16, State 1, Line 1
Invalid object name 'sys.partitions'.
Server: Msg 208, Level 16, State 1, Line 1
Invalid object name 'sys.dm_tran_locks'.
Server: Msg 208, Level 16, State 1, Line 1
Invalid object name 'sys.dm_os_waiting_tasks'.

I'm assuming I'm just missing something obvious...

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[OT] Dallas police chief apologizes for conduct of officer who drew gun on NFL player outside hospital

2009-03-26 Thread Leland F. Jackson, CPA
Below are links to an incident that occurred in Plano, Texas, an 
up-scale, predominately white suberb of Dallas, Texas.  Plano, Texas was 
recently ranked the 5th most conservative city in the USA.

#---
Excerpt:

Dallas Police Chief David Kunkle stood in front of a dozen news cameras 
this afternoon at police headquarters to apologize for the behavior of 
an officer who stopped a family outside a hospital emergency room.

http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/dn/latestnews/stories/032609dnmetcopstop.3e9c080.html

or

http://tinyurl.com/cr45dp
#---

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Re: [OT] Dallas police chief apologizes for conduct of officer who drew gun on NFL player outside hospital

2009-03-26 Thread Michael Madigan

All this cop had to do is follow them up to the room to verify their story.

He should be fired.


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 Subject: [OT] Dallas police chief apologizes for conduct of officer who drew 
 gun on NFL player outside hospital
 To: ProFox Email List profox@leafe.com
 Date: Thursday, March 26, 2009, 5:41 PM
 Below are links to an incident that
 occurred in Plano, Texas, an 
 up-scale, predominately white suberb of Dallas,
 Texas.  Plano, Texas was 
 recently ranked the 5th most conservative city in the USA.
 
 #---
 Excerpt:
 
 Dallas Police Chief David Kunkle stood in front of a dozen
 news cameras 
 this afternoon at police headquarters to apologize for the
 behavior of 
 an officer who stopped a family outside a hospital
 emergency room.
 
 http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/dn/latestnews/stories/032609dnmetcopstop.3e9c080.html
 
 or
 
 http://tinyurl.com/cr45dp
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Re: [OT] Dallas police chief apologizes for conduct of officer who drew gun on NFL player outside hospital

2009-03-26 Thread Leland F. Jackson, CPA
I agree.  Must police officers works unsupervised, and must exercise 
initiative tempered with judgement in carrying out their duties.  The 
driver of the car was driving with his emergency lights on.  He stop at 
the red light, before preceding through it.  When the police officer 
turned on his red/blue lights to signal for the car driver to pull over, 
the car driver did not try to flee, but did continue on allowing the 
police officer to follow.

When the car driver entered the hospital property and stop at the 
emergency room, it have been a strong hint to the police officer that 
all was not well and there could be a pending health care emergency.  
The police officer's priorities should have shifted toward providing 
help to the passengers of the car; rather, than enforcing any minor 
traffic violations.  I suspect the police officer really isn't suited to 
the job, and should be reassigned or forced to seek employment more in 
line with his personality traits and abilities.

Regards,

LelandJ

Michael Madigan wrote:
 All this cop had to do is follow them up to the room to verify their story.

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 From: Leland F. Jackson, CPA lela...@mail.smvfp.com
 Subject: [OT] Dallas police chief apologizes for conduct of officer who drew 
 gun on NFL player outside hospital
 To: ProFox Email List profox@leafe.com
 Date: Thursday, March 26, 2009, 5:41 PM
 Below are links to an incident that
 occurred in Plano, Texas, an 
 up-scale, predominately white suberb of Dallas,
 Texas.  Plano, Texas was 
 recently ranked the 5th most conservative city in the USA.

 #---
 Excerpt:

 Dallas Police Chief David Kunkle stood in front of a dozen
 news cameras 
 this afternoon at police headquarters to apologize for the
 behavior of 
 an officer who stopped a family outside a hospital
 emergency room.

 http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/dn/latestnews/stories/032609dnmetcopstop.3e9c080.html

 or

 http://tinyurl.com/cr45dp
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RE: Update field value

2009-03-26 Thread Profox
Or tomayto
Al

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 Tomato, TaMahto.

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[OT] No common sense anymore

2009-03-26 Thread Michael Madigan

They're charging a 14yo girl with sending child pornography for sending photos 
of herself.  

How ridiculous.  

http://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/Girl-Charged-With-Child-Porn-for-Posting-Nude-Pics-of-Self.html


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RE: [OT] No common sense anymore

2009-03-26 Thread Geoff Flight
World wide the child porn charge is getting well and truly out of hand. Over
here we had a person convicted and confirmed on appeal of possessing child
porn for having the 'adult' Simpsons cartoon (bart and lisa). The judges
said that bart and lisa are 'children'. And on and on it goes. True child
porn is evil. A teenager taking nude photos of herself and sending them to
someone is not. It is dumb - not evil. And who wants to stand up against
child porn laws and their uses? No-one. Until the day arrives that
possession of a photo of any child is a crime - including drawings, cartoons
and literature. I'm sick to death of this utter crap that charges CHILDREN
with child porn charges like this. Where are the politicians with a brain,
wehere are the judges with a conscience. In NSW here there was concern that
child porn convictions were low and people where getting off for the
technicality of the cops being unable to prove the girl in the photo was
under 18. So what do they do? Pass a law saying that if a child is dressed
in a style that is 16yo then that person can be considered underage unless
you can prove otherwise. Its getting to the stage that it is dangerous to
own a digital camera.

Id like to say this is from the 'only in america' file but it aint. It's
happening everywhere.

-Original Message-
From: profox-boun...@leafe.com [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf
Of Michael Madigan
Sent: Friday, 27 March 2009 2:40 PM
To: profox@leafe.com
Subject: [OT] No common sense anymore


They're charging a 14yo girl with sending child pornography for sending
photos of herself.  

How ridiculous.  

http://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/Girl-Charged-With-Child-Porn-for-Postin
g-Nude-Pics-of-Self.html


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RE: [OT] No common sense anymore

2009-03-26 Thread Michael Madigan

Yeah I remember the cartoon nonsense.

There have been many instances of parents taking pictures of their kids in the 
pool or bathtub being arrested because the Wal-Mart photo clerk called the 
police.

It used to be that child pornography only applied to children involved in a sex 
act or posed or dressed in a lewd way.  Now a 14yo girl sending nude pictures 
to herself to friends, while stupid and not something you want your child 
doing, is faced with being arrested and becoming a convicted felon.

Crazy.


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 From: Geoff Flight data...@adam.com.au
 Subject: RE: [OT] No common sense anymore
 To: 'ProFox Email List' profox@leafe.com
 Date: Friday, March 27, 2009, 12:40 AM
 World wide the child porn charge is
 getting well and truly out of hand. Over
 here we had a person convicted and confirmed on appeal of
 possessing child
 porn for having the 'adult' Simpsons cartoon (bart and
 lisa). The judges
 said that bart and lisa are 'children'. And on and on it
 goes. True child
 porn is evil. A teenager taking nude photos of herself and
 sending them to
 someone is not. It is dumb - not evil. And who wants to
 stand up against
 child porn laws and their uses? No-one. Until the day
 arrives that
 possession of a photo of any child is a crime - including
 drawings, cartoons
 and literature. I'm sick to death of this utter crap that
 charges CHILDREN
 with child porn charges like this. Where are the
 politicians with a brain,
 wehere are the judges with a conscience. In NSW here there
 was concern that
 child porn convictions were low and people where getting
 off for the
 technicality of the cops being unable to prove the girl in
 the photo was
 under 18. So what do they do? Pass a law saying that if a
 child is dressed
 in a style that is 16yo then that person can be
 considered underage unless
 you can prove otherwise. Its getting to the stage that it
 is dangerous to
 own a digital camera.
 
 Id like to say this is from the 'only in america' file but
 it aint. It's
 happening everywhere.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: profox-boun...@leafe.com
 [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com]
 On Behalf
 Of Michael Madigan
 Sent: Friday, 27 March 2009 2:40 PM
 To: profox@leafe.com
 Subject: [OT] No common sense anymore
 
 
 They're charging a 14yo girl with sending child pornography
 for sending
 photos of herself.  
 
 How ridiculous.  
 
 http://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/Girl-Charged-With-Child-Porn-for-Postin
 g-Nude-Pics-of-Self.html
 
 
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RE: [OT] No common sense anymore

2009-03-26 Thread Geoff Flight
One would think that 'child pornography' should involve both a child and
pornography. Now it can involve someone who is not a child (just looks
possibly like one), a cartoon, text and it does not have to be pornographic
- just potentially so in the eyes of 'someone'. That covers a great deal of
material. And the sentences now dished out mean you are a registered sex
offender once you get out of jail... for downloading a photo that would be
at best erotic in the eyes of some.  In the meantime the guy nextdoor who
beats his wife in front of his kid gets a community service order. Frankly
the application of these laws scare me as I'm afraid that some photo I
download accidentally or take might be construed as pornographic in this
brave new world where 18+ can do ANYTHING and 17 years 364 days cant even
take photos of themselves! And lets not forget browser hijackers like
coolwebsearch etc...

-Original Message-
From: profox-boun...@leafe.com [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf
Of Michael Madigan
Sent: Friday, 27 March 2009 3:19 PM
To: ProFox Email List
Subject: RE: [OT] No common sense anymore


Yeah I remember the cartoon nonsense.

There have been many instances of parents taking pictures of their kids in
the pool or bathtub being arrested because the Wal-Mart photo clerk called
the police.

It used to be that child pornography only applied to children involved in a
sex act or posed or dressed in a lewd way.  Now a 14yo girl sending nude
pictures to herself to friends, while stupid and not something you want your
child doing, is faced with being arrested and becoming a convicted felon.

Crazy.


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--- On Fri, 3/27/09, Geoff Flight data...@adam.com.au wrote:

 From: Geoff Flight data...@adam.com.au
 Subject: RE: [OT] No common sense anymore
 To: 'ProFox Email List' profox@leafe.com
 Date: Friday, March 27, 2009, 12:40 AM
 World wide the child porn charge is
 getting well and truly out of hand. Over
 here we had a person convicted and confirmed on appeal of
 possessing child
 porn for having the 'adult' Simpsons cartoon (bart and
 lisa). The judges
 said that bart and lisa are 'children'. And on and on it
 goes. True child
 porn is evil. A teenager taking nude photos of herself and
 sending them to
 someone is not. It is dumb - not evil. And who wants to
 stand up against
 child porn laws and their uses? No-one. Until the day
 arrives that
 possession of a photo of any child is a crime - including
 drawings, cartoons
 and literature. I'm sick to death of this utter crap that
 charges CHILDREN
 with child porn charges like this. Where are the
 politicians with a brain,
 wehere are the judges with a conscience. In NSW here there
 was concern that
 child porn convictions were low and people where getting
 off for the
 technicality of the cops being unable to prove the girl in
 the photo was
 under 18. So what do they do? Pass a law saying that if a
 child is dressed
 in a style that is 16yo then that person can be
 considered underage unless
 you can prove otherwise. Its getting to the stage that it
 is dangerous to
 own a digital camera.
 
 Id like to say this is from the 'only in america' file but
 it aint. It's
 happening everywhere.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: profox-boun...@leafe.com
 [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com]
 On Behalf
 Of Michael Madigan
 Sent: Friday, 27 March 2009 2:40 PM
 To: profox@leafe.com
 Subject: [OT] No common sense anymore
 
 
 They're charging a 14yo girl with sending child pornography
 for sending
 photos of herself.  
 
 How ridiculous.  
 

http://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/Girl-Charged-With-Child-Porn-for-Postin
 g-Nude-Pics-of-Self.html
 
 
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RE: [OT] No common sense anymore

2009-03-26 Thread Michael Madigan

The laws are too broad.


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--- On Fri, 3/27/09, Geoff Flight data...@adam.com.au wrote:

 From: Geoff Flight data...@adam.com.au
 Subject: RE: [OT] No common sense anymore
 To: 'ProFox Email List' profox@leafe.com
 Date: Friday, March 27, 2009, 12:57 AM
 One would think that 'child
 pornography' should involve both a child and
 pornography. Now it can involve someone who is not a child
 (just looks
 possibly like one), a cartoon, text and it does not have to
 be pornographic
 - just potentially so in the eyes of 'someone'. That covers
 a great deal of
 material. And the sentences now dished out mean you are a
 registered sex
 offender once you get out of jail... for downloading a
 photo that would be
 at best erotic in the eyes of some.  In the meantime
 the guy nextdoor who
 beats his wife in front of his kid gets a community service
 order. Frankly
 the application of these laws scare me as I'm afraid that
 some photo I
 download accidentally or take might be construed as
 pornographic in this
 brave new world where 18+ can do ANYTHING and 17 years 364
 days cant even
 take photos of themselves! And lets not forget browser
 hijackers like
 coolwebsearch etc...
 
 -Original Message-
 From: profox-boun...@leafe.com
 [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com]
 On Behalf
 Of Michael Madigan
 Sent: Friday, 27 March 2009 3:19 PM
 To: ProFox Email List
 Subject: RE: [OT] No common sense anymore
 
 
 Yeah I remember the cartoon nonsense.
 
 There have been many instances of parents taking pictures
 of their kids in
 the pool or bathtub being arrested because the Wal-Mart
 photo clerk called
 the police.
 
 It used to be that child pornography only applied to
 children involved in a
 sex act or posed or dressed in a lewd way.  Now a 14yo
 girl sending nude
 pictures to herself to friends, while stupid and not
 something you want your
 child doing, is faced with being arrested and becoming a
 convicted felon.
 
 Crazy.
 
 
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 --- On Fri, 3/27/09, Geoff Flight data...@adam.com.au
 wrote:
 
  From: Geoff Flight data...@adam.com.au
  Subject: RE: [OT] No common sense anymore
  To: 'ProFox Email List' profox@leafe.com
  Date: Friday, March 27, 2009, 12:40 AM
  World wide the child porn charge is
  getting well and truly out of hand. Over
  here we had a person convicted and confirmed on appeal
 of
  possessing child
  porn for having the 'adult' Simpsons cartoon (bart
 and
  lisa). The judges
  said that bart and lisa are 'children'. And on and on
 it
  goes. True child
  porn is evil. A teenager taking nude photos of herself
 and
  sending them to
  someone is not. It is dumb - not evil. And who wants
 to
  stand up against
  child porn laws and their uses? No-one. Until the day
  arrives that
  possession of a photo of any child is a crime -
 including
  drawings, cartoons
  and literature. I'm sick to death of this utter crap
 that
  charges CHILDREN
  with child porn charges like this. Where are the
  politicians with a brain,
  wehere are the judges with a conscience. In NSW here
 there
  was concern that
  child porn convictions were low and people where
 getting
  off for the
  technicality of the cops being unable to prove the
 girl in
  the photo was
  under 18. So what do they do? Pass a law saying that
 if a
  child is dressed
  in a style that is 16yo then that person can be
  considered underage unless
  you can prove otherwise. Its getting to the stage that
 it
  is dangerous to
  own a digital camera.
  
  Id like to say this is from the 'only in america' file
 but
  it aint. It's
  happening everywhere.
  
  -Original Message-
  From: profox-boun...@leafe.com
  [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com]
  On Behalf
  Of Michael Madigan
  Sent: Friday, 27 March 2009 2:40 PM
  To: profox@leafe.com
  Subject: [OT] No common sense anymore
  
  
  They're charging a 14yo girl with sending child
 pornography
  for sending
  photos of herself.  
  
  How ridiculous.  
  
 
 http://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/Girl-Charged-With-Child-Porn-for-Postin
  g-Nude-Pics-of-Self.html
  
  
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RE: [OT] No common sense anymore

2009-03-26 Thread Geoff Flight
Yes but that is true in many situations and both police and the courts are
supposed to draw it in a little bit and apply commonsense and due diligence.
Neither occurs. 

-Original Message-
From: profox-boun...@leafe.com [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf
Of Michael Madigan
Sent: Friday, 27 March 2009 3:38 PM
To: ProFox Email List
Subject: RE: [OT] No common sense anymore


The laws are too broad.


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--- On Fri, 3/27/09, Geoff Flight data...@adam.com.au wrote:

 From: Geoff Flight data...@adam.com.au
 Subject: RE: [OT] No common sense anymore
 To: 'ProFox Email List' profox@leafe.com
 Date: Friday, March 27, 2009, 12:57 AM
 One would think that 'child
 pornography' should involve both a child and
 pornography. Now it can involve someone who is not a child
 (just looks
 possibly like one), a cartoon, text and it does not have to
 be pornographic
 - just potentially so in the eyes of 'someone'. That covers
 a great deal of
 material. And the sentences now dished out mean you are a
 registered sex
 offender once you get out of jail... for downloading a
 photo that would be
 at best erotic in the eyes of some.  In the meantime
 the guy nextdoor who
 beats his wife in front of his kid gets a community service
 order. Frankly
 the application of these laws scare me as I'm afraid that
 some photo I
 download accidentally or take might be construed as
 pornographic in this
 brave new world where 18+ can do ANYTHING and 17 years 364
 days cant even
 take photos of themselves! And lets not forget browser
 hijackers like
 coolwebsearch etc...
 
 -Original Message-
 From: profox-boun...@leafe.com
 [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com]
 On Behalf
 Of Michael Madigan
 Sent: Friday, 27 March 2009 3:19 PM
 To: ProFox Email List
 Subject: RE: [OT] No common sense anymore
 
 
 Yeah I remember the cartoon nonsense.
 
 There have been many instances of parents taking pictures
 of their kids in
 the pool or bathtub being arrested because the Wal-Mart
 photo clerk called
 the police.
 
 It used to be that child pornography only applied to
 children involved in a
 sex act or posed or dressed in a lewd way.  Now a 14yo
 girl sending nude
 pictures to herself to friends, while stupid and not
 something you want your
 child doing, is faced with being arrested and becoming a
 convicted felon.
 
 Crazy.
 
 
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 Join the OBAMA RESISTANCE MOVEMENT!
 
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 --- On Fri, 3/27/09, Geoff Flight data...@adam.com.au
 wrote:
 
  From: Geoff Flight data...@adam.com.au
  Subject: RE: [OT] No common sense anymore
  To: 'ProFox Email List' profox@leafe.com
  Date: Friday, March 27, 2009, 12:40 AM
  World wide the child porn charge is
  getting well and truly out of hand. Over
  here we had a person convicted and confirmed on appeal
 of
  possessing child
  porn for having the 'adult' Simpsons cartoon (bart
 and
  lisa). The judges
  said that bart and lisa are 'children'. And on and on
 it
  goes. True child
  porn is evil. A teenager taking nude photos of herself
 and
  sending them to
  someone is not. It is dumb - not evil. And who wants
 to
  stand up against
  child porn laws and their uses? No-one. Until the day
  arrives that
  possession of a photo of any child is a crime -
 including
  drawings, cartoons
  and literature. I'm sick to death of this utter crap
 that
  charges CHILDREN
  with child porn charges like this. Where are the
  politicians with a brain,
  wehere are the judges with a conscience. In NSW here
 there
  was concern that
  child porn convictions were low and people where
 getting
  off for the
  technicality of the cops being unable to prove the
 girl in
  the photo was
  under 18. So what do they do? Pass a law saying that
 if a
  child is dressed
  in a style that is 16yo then that person can be
  considered underage unless
  you can prove otherwise. Its getting to the stage that
 it
  is dangerous to
  own a digital camera.
  
  Id like to say this is from the 'only in america' file
 but
  it aint. It's
  happening everywhere.
  
  -Original Message-
  From: profox-boun...@leafe.com
  [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com]
  On Behalf
  Of Michael Madigan
  Sent: Friday, 27 March 2009 2:40 PM
  To: profox@leafe.com
  Subject: [OT] No common sense anymore
  
  
  They're charging a 14yo girl with sending child
 pornography
  for sending
  photos of herself.  
  
  How ridiculous.  
  
 

http://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/Girl-Charged-With-Child-Porn-for-Postin
  g-Nude-Pics-of-Self.html
  
  
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2009-03-26 Thread Michael Madigan

http://countermeasures.trendmicro.eu/downadconficker-whos-the-april-fool/

 

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