RE: [NF] Daylight Saving Time, automated Time Synch
He may have been being subtle about his age and still using fox, but there was not sublety or humor in his capricious statements about the "bloated behemoth", etc. Pander all you want to your admirers, but be truthful. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ed Leafe Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2007 1:40 PM To: ProFox Email List Subject: Re: [NF] Daylight Saving Time, automated Time Synch On Mar 17, 2007, at 1:33 PM, mrgmhale wrote: > More obviously you missed the tongue-in-cheek humor. But that is > okay, you > picked up on the real underlying notation regardless. Moral: don't try to use humor or subtlety. Some people just can't fathom it. -- Ed Leafe -- http://leafe.com -- http://dabodev.com [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [NF] Daylight Saving Time, automated Time Synch
You don't have to give ringing endorsements. Just say you don't like it and won't use it, but don't make unfounded assertions as to usability, etc. That's all he's (and I'm) saying, but you can't do that, can you? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ed Leafe Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2007 1:39 PM To: ProFox Email List Subject: Re: [NF] Daylight Saving Time, automated Time Synch On Mar 17, 2007, at 1:26 PM, Stephen the Cook wrote: >> FWIW, I've looked at .Net when it was first introduced, and then >> again when the 2.0 version came out. If I was forced to develop in >> it, I wouldn't hate it, but since I'm aware of much better ways of >> doing the same things, I wouldn't feel it was the best use of my >> time. > > I give up Ed, what did your look entail? Did you knock out an app > or three? > Were they win form or web based? Honestly what did you do for an > eval? Does it matter what I answer? I'm sure that anything short of a ringing endorsement will be viewed as "you didn't give it a fair chance". But yes, I created a basic winforms app similar to a Java app I had created a few years ago. I used C# because it is, shall we say, "inspired" by Java. While the environment is very rich, I found the syntax and program flow as clunky and inelegant as I did Java. >> I have gone to several conferences with a lot of .Net users, though, >> and I always ask a) what platforms do you regularly work with and b) >> what other development options did you consider before .Net? Care to >> hazard a guess as to what the answers almost always are? > > Is that important, or a desire? I don't really care myself. I wasn't replying to you; I was replying to John Baird's implication that anyone who doesn't embrace .Net has "drunk from the bottle" of anti-MS bigotry. My point is that the .Net crowd is overwhelmingly single-platform and single-vendor, not the other way around; if anyone is brainwashed... > Your heart desires to not do M$ and then you piss on those of us > who do. Piss on you? I just got called a brainwashed bigot, and I'm pissing on you? Geez, you guys have the thinnest skins around. > Some of us don't care past doing a good job for the customer/client. And some only care that the solution puts the most money in their pocket, whether it's good for the client or not. What do you call those people? "Data Ho"s? -- Ed Leafe -- http://leafe.com -- http://dabodev.com [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [NF] Daylight Saving Time, automated Time Synch
There you go again, changing the meaning to suit yourself. I said that he shouldn't make absurd, fallacious statements founded only in what he's read by the xenophones who hate MS and everything they produce. Why can't you stick to the original premise? See my experiences with dabo in another message. I've looked a perl, python, java, Borland c# and Delphi, etc. and still like the power of .net. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ed Leafe Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2007 1:01 PM To: ProFox Email List Subject: Re: [NF] Daylight Saving Time, automated Time Synch On Mar 17, 2007, at 11:31 AM, John Weller wrote: > Look at the whole thread in the archives before you make comments. ...and list all of the alternatives you explored before accusing others of not being "open". -- Ed Leafe -- http://leafe.com -- http://dabodev.com [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [NF] Daylight Saving Time, automated Time Synch
Well I'm sure it wouldn't be Dabo. Probably ruby or python; however that doesn't negate the fact that making absurd statements with nothing to back them up is ridiculous. I took a "look at" dabo when you first brought it out. It was plainly obvious that nothing in a real world business app could be developed with it at the time. Don't know about today, but my guess would be it's still not ready. So does my experience with Dabo and the fact that I attend conferences with java users and other language developers, give me the right to spread bullshit about other products with which I have nothing more than a passing acquaintance. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ed Leafe Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2007 12:59 PM To: ProFox Email List Subject: Re: [NF] Daylight Saving Time, automated Time Synch On Mar 17, 2007, at 11:23 AM, John Baird wrote: > Obviously he's been drinking from the same bottle as the rest of > the ''dot not" crowd. Its funny that the ones making unqualified > statements like this have probably never used .net further than > "Hello world", if that much. It's funny that so many of the .Net proponents here haven't used any of the alternatives. It's quite shaky to charge those who don't like .Net with being brainwashed and closed-minded when that exactly describes most of the .Net proponents. FWIW, I've looked at .Net when it was first introduced, and then again when the 2.0 version came out. If I was forced to develop in it, I wouldn't hate it, but since I'm aware of much better ways of doing the same things, I wouldn't feel it was the best use of my time. I have gone to several conferences with a lot of .Net users, though, and I always ask a) what platforms do you regularly work with and b) what other development options did you consider before .Net? Care to hazard a guess as to what the answers almost always are? -- Ed Leafe -- http://leafe.com -- http://dabodev.com -- Ed Leafe -- http://leafe.com -- http://dabodev.com [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [NF] Daylight Saving Time, automated Time Synch
That may be well and true and good for his clients; however, to make complete fallacious statements about another development platform without any first hand knowledge is egregious. But he knew he could make those statements here as he is preaching to the choir. As for hard to learn as you get older, that's balderdash. I started on .net in my 50's and have had no problem learning how to use it well. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of MB Software Solutions Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2007 12:59 PM To: profox@leafe.com Subject: Re: [NF] Daylight Saving Time, automated Time Synch Well, perhaps, but then again, for what his clients need and what he can do for them with his current skillset, he might not feel the need to go back for re-training on something different, be it DotNet, Java, or whatever. And supposedly, the older you get, the harder it is to change and/or learn. ?? -- Michael J. Babcock, MCP MB Software Solutions, LLC http://mbsoftwaresolutions.com http://fabmate.com "Work smarter, not harder, with MBSS custom software solutions!" [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [NF] Daylight Saving Time, automated Time Synch
Gullible is not the description that I would have chosen. -Original Message- From: "Jean Laeremans" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "ProFox Email List" Sent: 3/1the7/07 12:12 Subject: Re: [NF] Daylight Saving Time, automated Time Synch On 3/17/07, John Baird <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Obviously he's been drinking from the same bottle as the rest of the ''dot > not" crowd. Its funny that the ones making unqualified statements like this > have probably never used .net further than "Hello world", if that much. Sorry John, nice try but i guess we're simply not gullible enough around here... A+ jml [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [NF] Daylight Saving Time, automated Time Synch
LOL. O K -Original Message- From: "John Weller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: profox@leafe.com Sent: 3/17/07 11:27 Subject: RE: [NF] Daylight Saving Time, automated Time Synch I think you missed part of the original post which was along the lines of 'What will happen in 2032' John Weller 01380 723235 07976 393631 > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of John Baird > Sent: 17 March 2007 15:23 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: [NF] Daylight Saving Time, automated Time Synch > > > What Xbase Was available in 1957? > > -Original Message- > From: "MB Software Solutions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: profox@leafe.com > Sent: 3/17/07 10:52 > Subject: Re: [NF] Daylight Saving Time, automated Time Synch > > mrgmhale wrote: > > I turn 78, and enter my 5th decade cutting code in xBase for my > VFP9/Sedna ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [NF] Daylight Saving Time, automated Time Synch
He talks about "bloated behemoths" and then mentions "Dot not". His bias is obvious, ergo, my point is valid. -Original Message- From: "John Weller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: profox@leafe.com Sent: 3/17/07 11:31 Subject: RE: [NF] Daylight Saving Time, automated Time Synch What unqualified statements? Methinks thou doth protest too much. Look at the whole thread in the archives before you make comments. John Weller 01380 723235 07976 393631 > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of John Baird > Sent: 17 March 2007 15:23 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: [NF] Daylight Saving Time, automated Time Synch > > > Obviously he's been drinking from the same bottle as the rest of > the ''dot not" crowd. Its funny that the ones making unqualified > statements like this have probably never used .net further than > "Hello world", if that much. > > -Original Message- > From: "MB Software Solutions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: profox@leafe.com > Sent: 3/17/07 10:52 > Subject: Re: [NF] Daylight Saving Time, automated Time Synch ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [NF] Daylight Saving Time, automated Time Synch
What Xbase Was available in 1957? -Original Message- From: "MB Software Solutions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: profox@leafe.com Sent: 3/17/07 10:52 Subject: Re: [NF] Daylight Saving Time, automated Time Synch mrgmhale wrote: > I turn 78, and enter my 5th decade cutting code in xBase for my VFP9/Sedna > apps, dazzling folks with my effective use of an "antiquated" language and > database solution that will still run circles around whatever SuperBloat > DotNotYet code M$ is stuffing down the throats of developers. And we will > be leaving 64 bit technology to move into 128 bit "any day now" for the next > 25 years. > > So how do you feel about .Net, Gil? lol! -- Michael J. Babcock, MCP MB Software Solutions, LLC http://mbsoftwaresolutions.com http://fabmate.com "Work smarter, not harder, with MBSS custom software solutions!" [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [NF] Daylight Saving Time, automated Time Synch
Obviously he's been drinking from the same bottle as the rest of the ''dot not" crowd. Its funny that the ones making unqualified statements like this have probably never used .net further than "Hello world", if that much. -Original Message- From: "MB Software Solutions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: profox@leafe.com Sent: 3/17/07 10:52 Subject: Re: [NF] Daylight Saving Time, automated Time Synch mrgmhale wrote: > I turn 78, and enter my 5th decade cutting code in xBase for my VFP9/Sedna > apps, dazzling folks with my effective use of an "antiquated" language and > database solution that will still run circles around whatever SuperBloat > DotNotYet code M$ is stuffing down the throats of developers. And we will > be leaving 64 bit technology to move into 128 bit "any day now" for the next > 25 years. > > So how do you feel about .Net, Gil? lol! -- Michael J. Babcock, MCP MB Software Solutions, LLC http://mbsoftwaresolutions.com http://fabmate.com "Work smarter, not harder, with MBSS custom software solutions!" [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: Need help with VFP9 SQL JOIN subquery
You need to add the inner join to the correlated subquery. It must be a standalone query with all parts defined. -Original Message- From: "MB Software Solutions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Profox" Sent: 3/1/07 11:24 Subject: Need help with VFP9 SQL JOIN subquery I know the new functionality in VFP9 SQL is cool like Oracle had where you can defined joins to subqueries, but I seem to have a flaw in my code. (see below). select v1.iid, ; v1.nMatlID, ; v1.nVendorID, ; d1.nUnitCost, d1.dActive, ; v1.cVendorSKU, ; lu1.cCompany; FROM eiwdb!luMaterialVendors v1 ; JOIN eiwdb!luCompanies lu1 ; ON lu1.iid = v1.nMatlID ; join (select iid, nunitcost, max(dActive) from eiwdb!luMaterialVendors v2 where v2.nMatlID = v1.nMatlID) d1 on v1.iid = d1.iid ; WHERE v1.nMatlID = ?viMatlID ; ORDER BY lu1.cCompany I'm trying to get the latest price record. The luMaterialVendors table holds the pricing history for a given material to a vendor. When I try this in ViewEditor 3.0.126, it tells me that alias v1 is not found. I've defined "v1" immediately in the FROM clause. Ideas? tia! --Michael ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: Lack of Written Specifications
The wording sounds good to me with the exception of "agreed upon by both parties". What happens when they can't agree? You may wish to consider some kind of arbitration. -Original Message- From: "Jeff Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: profox@leafe.com Sent: 2/28/07 11:26 Subject: Lack of Written Specifications I am putting together a support agreement with another software company. I am going to maintain their application for their customers (I have been doing work on the application as a contractor). There are no written specifications for the application so I figured the source code could be the specification. If there are any requests for reports or forms not included in the source code, they would be considered enhancements and not be included in the maintenance agreement. Here is the language I used in the agreement: """Absence of Written Specifications Often times work is performed where there is no documentation or written specifications and authorizations to do the work are verbal. In the event there is no written specification both parties will agree upon a release version of the application as a benchmark of features and functionality. The source code of the agreed upon version will be considered the written specification for the project. All reports, forms and processes included in the application's source code will be included in the scope of this Agreement and be considered "agreed upon" by both parties.""" Any ideas on this approach? By the way, I use Whil's "The Software Developer's Guide" when putting together agreements, but he doesn't cover what happens when you enter into an agreement where there are no written specs. Jeff Jeff Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] 623-582-0323 Fax 623-869-0675 --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- multipart/signed multipart/alternative text/plain (text body -- kept) text/html application/x-pkcs7-signature --- [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [OT] Global Warming: The Cold, Hard Facts?
That'd be a good start... >>If that happens Washington, DC will be under water. >>David L. Crooks ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [OT] Gonzales warns judges not to meddle
One has nothing to do with the other. Endangered species is a proven fact. If you have 10 river dolphins left, that's below the breeding threshold ergo you can make the argument for endangered species. However, global warming is junk science made up to arouse fear and spread irrationality. Global warming is based on 30 years of data over 2 billion years and they think that it indicates a trend... lol. It is the ultimate in arrogance to think that we as a species can have that much effect on this world. When nature is ready to get rid of us, she'll swat us like a bug. --- Maybe. But I figured out Mike believes he can predate on everybody. So I decided my natural prey is Mike. And I'm feeding off him real well, he's easy to hunt. Problems with this species is they don't imagine some other may hunt them. Well, I've helped his imagination a bit, at least till he becomes an endangered species. But as you people don't 'believe' in global warming you'll probably won't believe 'endangered species' either. Your's absolutely truly. Ricardo [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [OT] Come the Revolution
Why is it, that every point made against your philosophy is a strawman argument? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ed Leafe Sent: Sunday, January 07, 2007 11:28 AM To: ProFox Email List Subject: Re: [OT] Come the Revolution On Jan 7, 2007, at 11:24 AM, Leland Jackson wrote: >> don't forget that the un wants to take our guns so that we can't >> defend ourselves from the un and others >> -Original Message- >> > > This is a point that should be negotiable. No, this is a strawman. The UN is doing no such thing, but people who are unconcerned with truth love to make this claim in order to "rile up the masses" against the big bad UN. -- Ed Leafe -- http://leafe.com -- http://dabodev.com [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [NF] Experience with Vista?
The action pack version is the official version. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Virgil Bierschwale Sent: Saturday, December 30, 2006 10:22 PM To: 'ProFox Email List' Subject: RE: [NF] Experience with Vista? I tried the beta that came with the action pack subscription. Screwed my laptop up, but I think it was special driver problems... Formatted the hard drive and reinstalled xp and everything is fine with new drivers downloaded. Been thinking about trying it again, but decided to wait till the official version came out.. Virgil Bierschwale http://www.virgilslist.com http://www.tccutlery.com http://www.bierschwale.com http://www.bierschwalesolutions.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of john harvey Sent: Saturday, December 30, 2006 1:35 PM To: 'ProFox Email List' Subject: RE: [NF] Experience with Vista? Has anyone been running Vista? If so, what are your experiences? What version should a developer be using? I am going ahead with enrollment in the empower program, so I guess I'll just use the Vista that comes with the MSDN Universal subscription. John Harvey [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [NF] Experience with Vista?
John, I've been using it since November. I like it, but there are a few things Not many drivers available so if you use scanners, cameras, etc. you're out of luck... I set up an xppro box also for all my software that I can't run on vista yet. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of john harvey Sent: Saturday, December 30, 2006 2:35 PM To: 'ProFox Email List' Subject: RE: [NF] Experience with Vista? Has anyone been running Vista? If so, what are your experiences? What version should a developer be using? I am going ahead with enrollment in the empower program, so I guess I'll just use the Vista that comes with the MSDN Universal subscription. John Harvey [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [JOB] Looking for a VFP to .NET conversion team
Our IT guys are trying to figure out the minimum requirements for out 4 .net apps, so they are trying a variety of machines and configurations. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jean Laeremans Sent: Friday, October 13, 2006 7:02 PM To: ProFox Email List Subject: Re: [JOB] Looking for a VFP to .NET conversion team On 10/14/06, John Baird <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > LOL.. That was good. However, both apps running on p4 3.2 ghz with > 2 gigs ram.. > > We have a .net budgeting and allocation app running on a pIII with > 512mb ram... Runs pretty good.. As usual Johnseeing is believing A+ jml [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [JOB] Looking for a VFP to .NET conversion team
LOL.. That was good. However, both apps running on p4 3.2 ghz with 2 gigs ram.. We have a .net budgeting and allocation app running on a pIII with 512mb ram... Runs pretty good.. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul Hill Sent: Friday, October 13, 2006 6:13 PM To: ProFox Email List Subject: Re: [JOB] Looking for a VFP to .NET conversion team On 10/13/06, Andy Davies <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > John Baird said: > >We are also porting a huge legacy app to .net and the execution > >times > of the new app is almost identical to the fox app. > > So what was the point then? Let me guess: The Fox App was running on a 500Mhz Pentium 1 and the .net App was running on a 3Ghz P4 :-) -- Paul [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: quick SQL question
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Do you want to return just 1 record?
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I have records with a date field: dDateServ D (I am displaying a string but
the date field is a type 'date')
1. 02/15/2006
2. 03/15/2006
3. 04/15/2006
4. 05/15/2006
5. 06/15/2006
6. 07/15/2006
7. 08/15/2006
8. 09/15/2006
I want a LOCATE statement something like this:
LOCATE FOR dDateServ <= date(2006,06,18)
I want record #5 - the max date that satisfies the for clause.
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RE: [JOB] Looking for a VFP to .NET conversion team
Client requirements. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andy Davies Sent: Friday, October 13, 2006 5:29 AM To: profox@leafe.com Subject: RE: [JOB] Looking for a VFP to .NET conversion team John Baird said: >We are also porting a huge legacy app to .net and the execution >times of the new app is almost identical to the fox app. So what was the point then? Andrew Davies MBCS CITP - AndyD 8-)# ** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. Please contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] with any queries. ** [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [JOB] Looking for a VFP to .NET conversion team
Didn't want to let my fans down. Gotta reputation to uphold :)... -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jean Laeremans Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2006 5:50 PM To: ProFox Email List Subject: Re: [JOB] Looking for a VFP to .NET conversion team On 10/12/06, John Baird <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > We are also porting a huge legacy app to .net I just finished one > of the major pieces of functionality converting a ton of local engine/cursor work > to ado/sql. It hasn't taken us years, we've found no problems we couldn't > overcome with a change of mindset, and the execution times of the new > app is almost identical to the fox app. With .3 seconds...so much for > the --unachievable in any thing else --power of the local data engine... > John, i was wondering how long it would take before you chimed in A+ jml [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [JOB] Looking for a VFP to .NET conversion team
We are also porting a huge legacy app to .net I just finished one of the major pieces of functionality converting a ton of local engine/cursor work to ado/sql. It hasn't taken us years, we've found no problems we couldn't overcome with a change of mindset, and the execution times of the new app is almost identical to the fox app. With .3 seconds...so much for the --unachievable in any thing else --power of the local data engine... -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Stephen the Cook Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2006 5:35 PM To: 'ProFox Email List' Subject: RE: [JOB] Looking for a VFP to .NET conversion team Charlie Coleman <> wrote: > At 06:59 AM 10/12/2006 -0500, Stephen the Cook wrote: > ... >>> No, I think your old boss is heading for a disaster if he's >>> stipulating a .Net solution blindly. >> >> I think your ego is bigger them most peoples. ... > > Really? How is stating my observations egotistical? I didn't say the > .Net group that is taking over 5 years to do what I did in 8 months > sucks. I didn't say I'm so fantastic I can do in 8 months what it > takes 5 years to do in .Net. I simply stated what my previous client > has told me. I actually consider myself about average when it comes to > software coding. I'm not privy to why it's taking them so long, and > why they can't get the .Net system to match the functionality of the > VFP system. I just know it's happening that way. Do you find such > truthful observations painful? > > My point was I've seen a 'blind stipulation' to do something in .Net > cause nightmares. I'm not the only one on the list that's seen it > either. If you care about that previous boss, you may want to warn > him. But then, is that the boss that tossed you out? So why should > you care? I've done 2 VFP conversions and two acccess conversions to both web and winform C# apps. Didn't take years because I also did other new out of the box .Net apps. So for truthful observations I find yours biased. You don't know of any others? Oh well. Stephen Russell DBA / .Net Developer Memphis TN 38115 901.246-0159 "Our scientific power has outrun our spiritual power. We have guided missiles and misguided men." Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. http://spaces.msn.com/members/srussell/ -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.408 / Virus Database: 268.13.2/472 - Release Date: 10/11/2006 [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [JOB] Looking for a VFP to .NET conversion team
AHHH... Thanks.. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Stephen the Cook Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2006 8:59 PM To: 'ProFox Email List' Subject: RE: [JOB] Looking for a VFP to .NET conversion team John Baird <> wrote: > PHB? Dilbert's "Pointy Haired Boss." Stephen Russell DBA / .Net Developer Memphis TN 38115 901.246-0159 "Our scientific power has outrun our spiritual power. We have guided missiles and misguided men." Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. http://spaces.msn.com/members/srussell/ -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.408 / Virus Database: 268.13.2/471 - Release Date: 10/10/2006 [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [JOB] Looking for a VFP to .NET conversion team
PHB? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chet Gardiner Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2006 8:43 PM To: profox@leafe.com Subject: Re: [JOB] Looking for a VFP to .NET conversion team "competitive"? "Up to date"? The software either works or it doesn't work. It doesn't sound like this software is being sold to anyone else, right, Stephen? I just went through this shiite four years ago. The idiots that ran the company I was working for (into the ground) made the decision to get the software "up to date and competitive" and ended up bankrupting the company and selling what was left and the customer list to a competitor. This sounds very PHB to me... John Baird wrote: >Because that's the way people keep their software up to date and >competitive. > >-Original Message- >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On >Behalf Of MB Software Solutions >Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2006 10:55 AM >To: profox@leafe.com >Subject: Re: [JOB] Looking for a VFP to .NET conversion team > >Stephen Russell wrote: > > > >>My old boss is looking to get his VFP app converted to .NET I am >>starting a new gig next week so I can't pull this off. This has NO >>DOCUMENTATION. He realizes that he has to pay some serious $$$ just >>to get that completed, let alone do the conversion. >> >> >> >> >> > >Not sure if anyone asked this or not...but what was wrong with the VFP >version...i.e., why the need to convert to DotNet? > >-- >Michael J. Babcock, MCP >MB Software Solutions, LLC >http://mbsoftwaresolutions.com >http://fabmate.com >"Work smarter, not harder, with MBSS custom software solutions!" > > > [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [JOB] Looking for a VFP to .NET conversion team
Because that's the way people keep their software up to date and competitive. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of MB Software Solutions Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2006 10:55 AM To: profox@leafe.com Subject: Re: [JOB] Looking for a VFP to .NET conversion team Stephen Russell wrote: >My old boss is looking to get his VFP app converted to .NET I am >starting a new gig next week so I can't pull this off. This has NO >DOCUMENTATION. He realizes that he has to pay some serious $$$ just to >get that completed, let alone do the conversion. > > > Not sure if anyone asked this or not...but what was wrong with the VFP version...i.e., why the need to convert to DotNet? -- Michael J. Babcock, MCP MB Software Solutions, LLC http://mbsoftwaresolutions.com http://fabmate.com "Work smarter, not harder, with MBSS custom software solutions!" [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: [OT] Did Democrats Page Mark Foley?
Hell, the dems can even get away with murder. Look at fat ted, murderer, alcoholic and still in congress wasting space and good breathable air... -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Robert Calco Sent: Tuesday, October 03, 2006 6:27 PM To: ProFox Email List Subject: Re: [OT] Did Democrats Page Mark Foley? On Oct 3, 2006, at 5:32 PM, Kristyne McDaniel wrote: > Bob, > >> If anything, the episode reveals the Democrats' >> hypocrisy about their own behavior. > > We knew the only defense for this one was going to be a "the Democrats > are just as bad" defense. Who has defended it? Foley is gone, and will likely go to jail, and no one will shed one tear for that hypocrite, least of all anyone on our side outside of the small circle of spineless "leaders" who looked the other way for political expediency. Conservatives are even calling for Hastert to resign, given all the tea leaves that should have been read about this sicko years ago. Not being an especially "compassionate" conservative, I echo that sentiment. What more do you want from us? Our people at least have the decency to resign when confronted with their folly. Yours rejoice in it and become even more emboldened to cling to the public trust they no longer deserve. Hell they even become more popular with your base. > > Recall, though, that the Republicans have been actively courting the > religious right, and have been saying they're better than the > Democrats morally. So when using the "they're just as bad" defense > you've just taken away any perceived edge you had with your base. They aren't "just as bad" as the Democrats, one homosexual member's failings compounded by spineless leadership's inability to deal with it honestly and effectively notwithstanding. I shudder when I think of celebrity perverts like Frank and others attaining leadership roles in the new Congress. But really this should have been expected, since the Congress that couldn't convict Clinton must have had its reasons for pulling back from the brink of actual accountability. Personally I'm about ready to join a third party. Democrats revolt me, and Republicans depress me. Same difference. > > Democrats aren't the ones walking around saying they're better than > the > other guys, after all. That, Kristyne, is entirely false. On every level they claim to be better, more humane, more compassionate (hence more moral), more intelligent, etc.. Unlike Republicans, though, they rally around their pedophiles and hypocrites, while we in the Republican party accept the sadness of what has happened and in fact DO hold our leadership accountable when they demonstrate pathetic lack of spine, as in this case. If the Democrats were honest, Gore would have been President in 1998. And if the Republicans were honest, Foley would have been behind bars a couple of years already. You will probably get your wish for a Democrat majority, because we in the Republican party take this kind of moral "nonsense" seriously (note how quickly we dispensed of Gingrich and Livingston when their skeletons came out), despite the fact it is clearly a calculated "october surprise" by a newly, uh, lubricated Clinton political attack machine. Your political slime machine is giddy with excitement over this, though they've defended even worse behavior among their own members for purely partisan reasons, with equal vigor, and will do so again in the future, when they have the power. Which is too bad, since your party is utterly incompetent to defend these borders and these institutions, as will be evident soon enough after the pendulum swings in your favor. Be careful what you ask for. God help us. - Bob > > Kristyne McDaniel > www.mcstyles.com > www.shamrocktrails.com > > > > [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: Agle Programming
Extreme Programming and Pair Programming are just a few of the associated
techniques under the Agile umbrella.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
Of William Sanders
Sent: Friday, September 29, 2006 9:30 PM
To: profox@leafe.com
Subject: RE: Agle Programming
Yo Yo Mr. Coleman -
Uh - if you were looking to generate an html help-like file of a project -
have you looked at Project Documenting Machine [PDM] ?
It's in a D/L here on leafe.com
Also - with just a few bits of tweaking, you can compile the resulting html
output collection INTO a chm.
Lemme know if that works out for you ?
Regards [Bill]
PS - didn't 'Agile' Programming Methodology group up out of 'Extreme
Programming' Methodology ? I'm a big fan of extreme, and watched Agile move
sideways from that 'standard'.
--
William Sanders / efGroup {rmv the DOT BOB to reply}
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VFP Webhosting? You BET! -> http://efgroup.net/vfpwebhosting Failing dotNet
Project? -> http://www.dotnetconversions.com
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RE: Using a seek instead of a locate
Michael: Your code will only find the first occurrence and update that. If there are multiple records matching the locate condition, you have to place the seek inside a loop... -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of MB Software Solutions Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2006 10:04 AM To: profox@leafe.com Subject: Re: Using a seek instead of a locate [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >How can I duplicate the following code using the seek command: > >SCAN > SELECT Invoice > LOCATE FOR in_code = lnCustCode > DO WHILE FOUND() > do some code > CONTINUE > ENDDO > SELECT sometable > ENDSCAN >The is extremely slow as this codes is already in another loop and >therefore a locate for the whole table is execute each time. > >Thanks in advance. > > Assuming there's an index on the Invoice.in_code field, how about this: scan lnCustCode = SomeTable.CustCode if seek(lnCustCode,"invoice","in_code") then * do your true code endif endscan -- Michael J. Babcock, MCP MB Software Solutions, LLC http://mbsoftwaresolutions.com http://fabmate.com "Work smarter, not harder, with MBSS custom software solutions!" [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: LIKE in ASP.NET
In ADO you do.. DatasTable.select('Name_agncy_nbr LIKE '*ABCBS*'), I'm
betting you can do something similar with the object data source.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
Of Jean Haidar
Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2006 5:53 PM
To: ProFox@leafe.com
Subject: LIKE in ASP.NET
we are trying to filter Grid View in ASP.Net using ( filterexpression
="='{0}' ").
we would want to accomplish the same as "Starting with" or LIKE in Visual
FoxPro, how do you do that in ASP.NET?
for example, how can we replace this long string of Name_agncy_nbr with
If RadioButtonList1.SelectedIndex = 1 Then
ObjectDataSource1.FilterExpression = "NAME_STAT='{0}'AND
(NAME_AGNCY_NBR='ABCBS-IND'OR NAME_AGNCY_NBR='ABCBS-C' OR
NAME_AGNCY_NBR='ABCBS-W' OR NAME_AGNCY_NBR='ABCBS-SW' OR
NAME_AGNCY_NBR='ABCBS-NW' OR NAME_AGNCY_NBR='ABCBS-WC' OR
NAME_AGNCY_NBR='ABCBS-SC' OR NAME_AGNCY_NBR='ABCBS-NE' OR
NAME_AGNCY_NBR='ABCBS-SE')"
End If
with one single line
NAME_AGNCY_NBR='ABCBS' &&
like we do in VFP
please email us an example.
Thanks,
Jean
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