RE: SQL "improvements"

[Stephen the Cook]

Mark Stanton <> wrote:
> I'm guessing that the new enginebehaviour whereby a group by clause
> must include all the fields that are selected is to follow a new SQL
> standard, is that right?  
> 
> Regardless of the source, why is this considered an improvement?  It
> seems to me to reduce my options for querying.  I can imagine that
> it's to "protect coders from themselves", but that's the only excuse
> for it that I can come up with, and I don't want to be protected from
> myself.
> 
> Any thoughts?

Hey Mark, why are you using the group by?  Is it the sum of a column or
another aggregate?  

You man need to do subselects to get what your trying to achieve.  Take this
simple attempt:

SELECT DISTINCT ward_id, MAX(DISTINCT date_modified) AS date_modified,
modified_by
FROM dbo.HOURS
GROUP BY ward_id, modified_by

Instead this is probably going to get the answer:

select * from dbo.HOURS as h
where date_modified in (
select max(date_modified) 
from dbo.hours 
where wardid = h.wardid)

You just pull the max date in the sub select and tie it's ID to the other
rows your looking for.

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RE: More web services

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Allen <> wrote:
> It’s a windows 2003 server SB) as the main data server. I using an XP
> workstation with IIS as the test web service. I have checked the user
> before and after the call to user rights and it goes to local user.  
> Allen
 
>From your other statements on this I think that your stuck with a VFP
limitation.  IIS is designed not to allow threads to just run amuck.  Go
figure security limits on a windows server.


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RE: [OT] Another Great President with Low Approval numbers

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Michael Madigan <> wrote:
> TRUMAN WENT LOWER
> 
> President Bush's 29% approval rating leaves him still more popular
> than Harry Truman at the low point of his presidency. Truman's rating
> dipped to 22%.  
> 
> History regards Truman better than Americans did in 1952, says Alonzo
> Hamby, Ohio University history professor and Truman biographer. 
> 
> Truman's prosecution of the Korean War was unpopular at home. The
> conflict, which ended in 1953 and cost 36,000 American lives, is
> looked on more favorably today by historians for helping to establish
> a stable democratic South Korea, Hamby said.   
 
I thought that he fell into depression after giving the approval to drop the
bombs, and getting the truth about what really happened to all those people
as we learned what radiation poisoning was all about.


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RE: [OT] Another rat flees the sinking ship

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Michael Madigan <> wrote:
> The biggest lobyist is the AARP, funded by poor old people.

If you think so.

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RE: [OT] Another rat flees the sinking ship

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Derek Kalweit <> wrote:
>>> One better and getting rid of all queers, or everyone from senate
>>> and congress? 
> 
>> Get rid of them all in senate and congress and start over...  Need a
>> revolution to get the government back to the people and not the
>> lobbyist.
> 
> Exactly. But don't stop with senate and congress-- there's plenty in
> the middle, federal agencies, and state and local governments that
> need to be gotten rid of as well...  

Here in Memphis we are trying!

State Senator John Ford gets sentenced today!


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RE: [OT] Another rat flees the sinking ship

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Derek Kalweit <> wrote:
 GWB said that anyone with him at the end of August was there till
 the end of his presidency. That's why anyone who is not there for
 the next year and a bit is leaving now.
> 
>>>   Can the whole country leave before the end of August?
> 
>> I am fairly certain the whole country doesn't want to leave, ever.
>> The 
>> problem has been people wanting to come here, not leave here. Or were
>> you just looking for another way to express your well-known hatred
>> for the man? 
> 
> Yes, I think you're right-- the whole country doesn't want to leave.
> The majority of the country wants GWB to leave and never come back
> instead.. 

Can I get an AMEN!

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RE: [NF] Windows Genuine Advantage suffers worldwide outage, problemsgalore

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MB Software Solutions <> wrote:
> Stephen the Cook wrote:
>> 
>> I have decorative security doors on my home to protect me from the
>> bad people.  Why not do the same with my products out for sale?
>> 
>> 
> 
> ...right next to the "Welcome" sign, eh?  

Bigfoot kicked in my back door 17 years or so ago.  They took TV
entertainment, a lot of my wife's family pieces out of her jewelry box, a
computer, etc. I was not a happy camper.  The dealing with the loss was very
trying.  The phone calls from security companies who read the police blotter
that I got broken into.  The insurance company telling me that they were
going to dump my policy because it was the second claim in a year.  Trust
me, when they say that no other insurance company will pick you up.  It
tried to replace them for years because I was so moved by their implication
that I was somehow the BAD person.  

This is what my doors look like.

<http://amsd.thomasnet.com/ImgMedium/a0001005.jpg>  

I worked for a local company who made them, doing FPW, SBT & TIW work back
in 98/99.

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RE: [NF] Windows Genuine Advantage suffers worldwide outage, problems galore

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Ed Leafe <> wrote:
> On Aug 25, 2007, at 11:55 PM, Stephen the Cook wrote:
> 
>> So if your committed to open source then fine.  If your not, you
>> should protect yourself as best you can.  I have decorative security
>> doors on my home to protect me from the bad people.  Why not do the
>> same with my products out for sale?
> 
>   They'll keep out the good people, too.

Maybe those are not the good people then?  Maybe they are so fickle they
WONT use proper power protection in their server room or replace them as
needed?  Their inability to follow directions could backfire and create the
new nasty client who blames your code base for their own internal problems.
Or it could backfire and make someone pitch a fit because they have to do
something more just to be a customer?

Ed do you fly today, or did you say F-it with all that new security just to
get on a plane.

As a people we do have to change to overcome problems in the past.  Striking
the SS# on printed material.  It use to be fine, not any more.  Heck it use
to be your license # in Hawaii.  

I am not going into EULA changes under the same product, just a more robust
definition of rights ownership.  




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RE: [NF] Windows Genuine Advantage suffers worldwide outage, problems galore

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Ted Roche <> wrote:
> On 8/25/07, Rick Schummer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
>> Common Ted, talk to me after you have had billions of your software
>> pirated. Heck, talk to me after you have had 100,000 pirated.
> 
> C'mon, Rick, tell me that you think that MS DRM stops anyone who
> wants a cracked version of Windows. Get real. Anyone who wants one
> can find one. DRM just hurts those who are trying to follow the
> rules, when the vendor doesn't live up to their end of the bargain,
> or installs a rootkit that causes problems, goes out of business, or
> decides they don't want you doing what you're doing. 
> 
> DRM is a bad technique that doesn't work.

Have you ever been a victim of a crime Ted?  Someone break into your car,
home, apt, business, or your identity?   When it happens to you don't think
that "It's alright." Sorry but you feel the opposite, or at least I did.  

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RE: [NF] Windows Genuine Advantage suffers worldwide outage, problems galore

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Ted Roche <> wrote:
> On 8/25/07, MB Software Solutions <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote: 
> 
>> The percentage of good guys versus the percentage of pirates.  Wonder
>> what the margin is?  Seems like the "one bad apple spoils the bunch"
>> kind of scenario.
> 
> The number of OS vendors who assume you are a thief and require you
> to prove otherwise vs. the number whio trust their customers to do
> the right thing?  

I guess that when someone steals your stuff that you expect to be paid for
you want to prevent it from repeating in the future.  I was told that my
used car app was being hawked by the snap on tool guy.  

I adjusted the sign on process, added encryption and failed the customer
name when they hacked the encryption text.  Granted that customer name was
on all contracts for selling the vehicle.  I put it out with the probable
thief I had.  It took effect 45 days later.  

So if your committed to open source then fine.  If your not, you should
protect yourself as best you can.  I have decorative security doors on my
home to protect me from the bad people.  Why not do the same with my
products out for sale? 


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RE: [OT] New discovered Global Warming hazard

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Michael Madigan <> wrote:
> Stephen,
> 
> The hottest year on record was 1934.

Whose record book are you quoting?  

http://tinyurl.com/pksae  sorry but I don't see it listed there.

http://tinyurl.com/ypmpvw  Listed on this one

Maybe http://tinyurl.com/2886cz  shows a different story.

Ok how about this http://tinyurl.com/2c8sfl


> If we truly had Global Warming, we would have eclipsed that already.

Kind of like saying that the 756 record is tainted by drugs so it doesn't
really exist?  
 
> Do you have any common sense?

Asks the troll?

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RE: [OT] New discovered Global Warming hazard

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Michael Madigan <> wrote:
> I pulled them from the same place the Global Warming nuts pull their
> facts. 

Michael likes it when strangers play with his ass.  

Or does he like to play with other men's asses?  

This was just easy for a Fri.

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RE: [OT] New discovered Global Warming hazard

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Nicholas Geti <> wrote:
> Talk to the families of the people who died in the past few weeks in
> the South when temperatures were in the hundreds for weeks on end. 

Why?  They were too poor to fix their AC, right Michael?

Things like the loss of ice in ice fields in the artic, Antarctic and Europe
or North America.  This is measurable, but is it cyclical and are we going
to loose a lot more before it comes back?

Are you familiar with the warmth of an area that was glacial 10 years ago
and is now exposed rock outcrop or water?  The reflection of snow as well as
it's insulation is fantastic.  When it's removed and you just have water or
rock the temp shifts a great deal to the warm side of the equation.

Granted NJ had a few cold days this summer.  So it must all be a crock.  

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RE: VFP(9) to ACT!

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Sytze de Boer <> wrote:
> I need to run a VFP app and connect to a ACT! database to sync client
> information. 
> Is there anyone here who is familiar with this program ?
> 
> At one time, I thought ACT! was based on dbf formats and I opened my
> big mouth and announced at a meeting that I could access the
> data..  
> 
> Please help me out of the hole !

I thought that they had data in SQL Server MSDE as of the last time I
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RE: [JOB] Outsourced to Mexico

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Pete Theisen <> wrote:
> On Tuesday 21 August 2007 14:16, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> Looks like a new Director and fiscal year means that all .NET
>> development will be done in our Mexican facility from now on.
> 
> Hi Stephen!
> 
> How much does a .net developer get in Mexico?

I don't know if they are going to continue on with .NET?  From the
grumblings at my last meeting they are going to stay with VB6 for patches
and look to a java online application for the rewrite.  They are going to
release the ONLINE2 product in 2 or 4 weeks which was written in c for about
80% of the product.  There is some java in there.  Oh it's all based on AIX
or Linux servers.  

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RE: [JOB] Outsourced to Mexico

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MB Software Solutions <> wrote:

> 
> With all due respecthow many gigs do you go through in a year on
> average?  Man, you must really make the dough going through them like
> you do!  

This was a 3 month gig and the prior one was 3 and it went 5.  This is .NET
were we get the stuff completed.  ;->

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RE: [NF] Tech Extremists

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> http://joyoftech.com/joyoftech/joyimages/998b.gif
> 
> And no, that's not me!

If it said Pythontower

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RE: [OT] Freedom of Speech cost tax payers

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Pete Theisen <> wrote:
> On Friday 17 August 2007 14:31, Michael Madigan wrote:
>> Not one anti-Bush shirt on my site, so what's your point?
>> 
>> Did you try to set up a strawman that it was the cotten garments I
>> was objecting to?
> 
> Hi Michael!
> 
> Some of it is so subtle I don't get it. "More Cowbell"?

Hahahaha

BOC and SNL well it was a sit after all.

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David Crooks <> wrote:
> http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2007/08/16/feds_pay_8_ove
> r_anti_bush_t_shirts/
> 
> Or
> http://tinyurl.com/2panxq

You know that Dick Cheney is saying that Saddam didn't have to deal with
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RE: [OT] Grilling potatoes

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Rick Quilhot <> wrote:
> Nuke the butter & brush on.

Just leave it on your counter in a coverd bowl.  

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RE: [OT] Grilling potatoes

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Pete Theisen <> wrote:
> On Thursday 16 August 2007 22:22, Pete Theisen wrote:
>> On Tuesday 14 August 2007 05:56, Stephen the Cook wrote:
>>> Pete Theisen <> wrote:
>>>> This isn't winning any taste-test medals, that is for sure. It is
>>>> cooking through, however. Just burning on the outside a second or
>>>> two after. Thin slices are working better.
>>>> 
>>>> Then soak it in olive oil and salt. Still not really, really good.
>>> 
>>> In a skillet you can parboil the thick slices or wedges 1/4 or 1/3
>>> inch thick.  3 min in a SALTY water.  Drip dry in a strainer then
>>> add an infused garlic olive oil, or oil of your choice.  Now put on
>>> GF grill. 
> 
>> Parboiling potato slices now. I have great hopes for this . . .
> 
> Hi Stephen!
> 
> Quite good, thanks for the tip. Didn't take up much salt or oil, but
> I had more that I added at the table. 

See my statement above on SALTY water?  You need to put 2 or 3 times the
amount of salt in that water.  It will be absorbed into the spuds.  If you
take a tiny glass bottle and fill it with EV olive oil, and then put some
roasted garlic and maybe thyme or basil in it.  

That same oil is great on Beef. Chicken and Fish.

Buying that oil in bulk at Sams or Costco and splitting it with 3 other
families would be great for you.  What you pay for a small-mid sized bottle
could be the same as a liter when split with others.

Do you have fresh basil or rosemary?  If so put that under or on top of the
food you grill on the GF.  It will make it taste much better.

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RE: [NF] Extended Stay and the alternatives

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MB Software Solutions <> wrote:
> Ok, folks.  I've accepted a 6 month contract gig in Baltimore and
> need to find a place to stay asap during the week.  (I'll still be
> coming home to Nowheresville, PA to see my kids on weekends at my
> current apartment).   
> 
> I think that some places rent by the week, but I really only need 4
> nights/week. 
> 
> Advice/suggestions?  Tia!

You may find a local rental in MD for short term use.  Go out of your way to
meet a pastor for your church in MD.  Tell him your situation and ask if he
knows of some parishioner who would rent you a room?  

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RE: VFP: Slow work periods

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David Boatright <> wrote:
> Pete Theisen
>> Here in Florida they have always wanted us to starve. Never quite got
>> over slavery, but they have been trying to bring it back by calling
>> it contract labor. They put a job out for bid, someone will aways bid
>> below cost
> thinking
>> he/she will get a foot in the door.
> 
> 
> Tell me about it, I am doing system devleopment, I.T. support and
> running the quoting and pricing for a a guy in Miami and he will not
> pay me more than $12/ hr.  
> He has now asked me to do a  Manufacturing Resource Planning  system
> for his new factory, on my weekends.  He has offered to pay me the
> princley sum of $2000.  

You get 12.00 per hour?  Damn!  

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RE: [OT] Baltimore comments

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MB Software Solutions <> wrote:
> Considering a move to Baltimore, MD.  Anyone have comments about
> Baltimore to share? 
> 
> tia!
> --Michael

Are you nuts?  

Traffic, crime, that close to the beltway?

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RE: [OT] Grilling potatoes

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> This isn't winning any taste-test medals, that is for sure. It is
> cooking through, however. Just burning on the outside a second or two
> after. Thin slices are working better.  
> 
> Then soak it in olive oil and salt. Still not really, really good.


In a skillet you can parboil the thick slices or wedges 1/4 or 1/3 inch
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RE: [OT] Grilling potatoes

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Vince Teachout <> wrote:
> John Harvey wrote:
>> Hmmm, Micky Ds deep fries raw potatoes, don't they?
>> 
>> 
> And, I missed the most important part - no, they don't deep fry raw
> potatoes, they're cut, blanched, and partially cooked before being
> frozen and shipped to Mooby's.  

Pre cooked just to save time at the store.

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RE: [OT] Revised temperature data reduces Global Warming fever

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Michael Madigan <> wrote:
> The majority of people are going to start questioning why there
> aren't any hurricanes even though the great climatologists predicted
> a huge many.  

I thought that hurricane activity and el Niño's were a definite link.  This
and last year we were not in an el Nino or la Nina.

What part of junk science is this?  

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RE: Multiple sql commands to MySQL with a single SQLEXEC()?

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MB Software Solutions <> wrote:

 
> Hmmmso if one were to have a VFP system whereby it created the
> UPDATE SQL for multiple updates along with possibly INSERTS for new
> records, one could daisy change them together in one fell swoop using
> a single SQLEXEC statement, if I read this right.  Does that mean
> better performance since you're making fewer trips to the server or
> is this perhaps 6 of one, 1/2 dozen of another?  Curious...(yeah I
> know...design some test code and try it)  

It depends on your connection quality.  If you have your data server through
a lot of hops on the other side of the country or world you will defiantly
see an improvement for SQLNonQuery or SQLExecuteScaler. 

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RE: Data Strategy

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MB Software Solutions <> wrote:
> Paul Newton wrote:
>> Ted Roche wrote:
>> 
>>> I hope not. The more work I do outside the Fox world, the more dated
>>> I see some of FoxPro's designs.
>>> 
>> Ted, I'd be very interested if you were to elaborate on that a
>> little. Some examples, maybe ? 
>> 
> 
> I too would enjoy hearing what's outdated from VFP.  I'm sure there's
> plenty, but nonetheless, I'd enjoy hearing from one such as TR (whom
> has tons of respect for his knowledge and contributions over the
> years) has to say about what's better outside of VFP.  I recall
> another gentleman (not here) telling me how DotNet handled strings
> (or something else?? can't recall at present) much better than VFP.  

Scatter your data to an object by name.  Change one of the entities value.
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RE: [OT] Revised temperature data reduces Global Warming fever

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Ed Leafe <> wrote:
> On Aug 11, 2007, at 10:51 AM, Paul Hill wrote:
> 
>> In all, it's a worthwhile error to catch for the US data, but it
>> doesn't change much about the overall pattern.
> 
>   That doesn't matter. If there is any tiny error that can be focused
> on to the exclusion of everything else to the contrary, that is
> enough for the anti-science folks to grab on to and use to justify
> ignorance. I mean, how stupid do you have to be to not notice the
> word "global" in "global warming" and constantly harp about local
> temperatures? 

Are you calling our version of Beavis stupid?

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RE: Multiuser conflicts using SPT?

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Steve Ellenoff <> wrote:
> No...everyone who attempts to make their change after the 1st person
> has 
>> changed it (assuming they all checked out the data at the same time)
>> losesnot just the last guy.
> 
> I wasn't thinking beyond the 2 person example, but yeah, that's what
> I meant, everyone loses but the 1st guy. 

Houston, we have a problem.  Why did say lose?  Your update should return a
success or failure and that has to be passed back to the user when it's not
a success.  

You do wrap your insert, update and delete statements for a Boolean status
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RE: [NF] GoDaddy REALLY SUCKS!!!

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Chet Gardiner <> wrote:
> I'm trying to transfer a domain to someone else.
> 
> I followed their instructions -- doesn't work.
> 
> I tried emailing them -- they'll get back to me in 24 hours...
> 
> I tried calling their tech support (ha-ha) number -- can't get
> connected... 
> 
> I tried calling their sales number -- got an Indian voice -- left a
> message... 
> 
> Anyone else had experience with these clowns???

Yes and not had problems at all.  In the transfer to them and not sure if
away.

Is it your karma?  


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Steve Ellenoff <> wrote:
> Sorry if the answer is obvious, but how are conflicts handled when
> not using TABLEUPDATE() in VFP, ie, if you are rolling your own
> UPDATE SQL commands and firing them back to the server? I assume the
> problem is minimized if the code that generates your UPDATE is only
> sending changed fields, but what happens if two users do change the
> same field? It would seem that the *only* choice is that the last
> user wins basically..  
> 
> Is this how people are handling this or am I missing something
> obvious? 

I use the where clause as the true catch.

Where tableKey = keyVar and LastUpdateDT = existingMemoryLastUpdateDT

If you don't have the last user and changed date time your on your own.

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RE: Cascading triggers

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Mark Stanton <> wrote:
> Guess who's getting near to full delivery :-|
> 
> Rightly, or perhaps wrongly, I've implemented a system of triggers
> that records every database change in a backup database (I would'a
> caught Ollie North as well!).  
> 
> The way I've done it is using the insert/update/delete triggers.
> 
> Whilst this hasn't been a problem directly it seems to preclude all
> the RI built in to VFP, and now it turns out that Codebook (there's
> hardly anyone over there so I thought I'd raise it here) relies on
> this for deletes!   

What are you capturing?

Table, OrigValue, NewValue, User, DateTime, Application

 


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RE: Data Strategy

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Mark Stanton <> wrote:
> Hiya,
> 
>> I don't use views anymore - they seem so outdated and limited,
> 
> Hehehe!  Now you're talkin' my kinda language 8-) So what do you do?

SPT or Stored procedures that take params.

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RE: Data Strategy

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Mark Stanton <> wrote:
> What do you assembled guru's do about data filtering?
> 
> My situation is that, having developed an application which
> accumulates trading data, my users are getting boggled by the amount
> of information so want to filter it in various ways, for example by
> financial year.   
> 
> However, there are various such filters that might be applied, either
> individually or in combinations. 
> 
> The system is built with Codebook, so data is all accessed through
> views.  It seems a little ott to write the views so that they all
> have system wide filters in them, or is that the way you'd do it?  
> Or some other way?

Yes I follow a more C/S apprach where your only getting the data your
looking for instead of all of the data and pick what you need.



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RE: [NF] FireFox extensions --- (was : Thoughtful Post on Windows Vista)

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Ricardo Aráoz <> wrote:
 
> Download Manager Tweak.
> 
> FasterFox : Performance tweak
> 
> FEBE : Backs up all my FireFox data (i.e. extensions, themes,
> bookmarks, preferences, history, permissions, etc:) to directory in
> my pen drive, then I can have all my FireFox browsers set the same
> way.   
> 
> FireFox Showcase : button that displays a window with thumbnails of
> all the tabs I have open and allows me to go to one, close one etc. 
> 
> FoxMarks : Bookmark synchronizer. To keep my bookmards synchronized
> in all my machines. 
> 
> Tab Mix Plus : Must Have! lets me tweak the way my tabs act and
> appearance, hundreds of settings. 
> 
> That's it. Anyone would like to share his favorite extensions?

AdBlock
Faster Fox
Forecast Fox
InfoRSS
President Bush Count Down
Stumble upon
Tab Catalog
TinyURL
Undo Closed Tabs
VideoDownloader

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RE: Optimizations?

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MB Software Solutions <> wrote:
> Ed Leafe wrote:
>> 
>>  First off, this is a view, which means that you shouldn't have a ton
>> of records. My guess is that a LOCATE even without indexes will be
>> plenty fast. 
>> 
>>  Are you seeing delays that are causing you to pursue this?
>> 
>> 
> 
> Not exactly delays, but just tons of iterations.  There are 600+
> records that go through this routine (which thankfully isn't called
> too often).  
> I used Markus Egger's Coverage Profiler add-in tool to show me what
> code is slow and running lots of times.  This was brought about by a
> significant delay in the start of a process.  
> 
> Unfortunately, I think this is just the way it has to be for this
> situation's particulars (without going into client detail). 
> 
> Ever get times where you think you're writing butt ugly code and
> should just stop for the night?   

Can you bring the data into your view in a presorted way instead?

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RE: [NF] Nothing is Trivial!

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David Boatright <> wrote:
>  mrgmhale"
>>> She said sure no problem it will cost you $80, she got offended when
>>> I said I wanted her to do it for free.
>>> 
> 
>> Well F me blind!  If that ain't just downright one-way of her!  Okay,
>> this time for sure, no more Mr Nice Guy!  Except for friends, fellow
>> colleagues, SOME family and folks who just need a nudge in the
>> correct 
>> direction.  Wait a minute, that's how all this mess gets started -
>> the exceptions! Aggghhh...
> 
> 
> What the 
> She just turned up again and handed me a Packard Bell Platinum  4500
> from circa 1996 and said "See what you can do to make that better,
> the kids did something to it and it keeps running chkdisk".  She also
> handed me a HP Pavilion with Windows Me with the same "make it
> better" instructions.  The HP would not even start when I called her
> she said her father in law had it sitting in the garage for two
> months.  

Did you tell her to toss it onto the 80.00 invoice she gave you as a
paperweight?   


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RE: [OT] Single straight guy cooking

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Pete Theisen <> wrote:
> On Friday 03 August 2007 21:53, Michael Madigan wrote:
>> I use the George Forman Grill for everything
> 
> Hi Michael!
> 
> You must have one of the larger ones. I had to take the second
> smallest size back to get the absolute smallest size to fit a limited
> place I have for it.  
> 
> This little one will be all right for thin food, but I can't see it
> for corn on the cob. Maybe corn on the cob slices . . . 

If Microwave then
With corn
.PeelBackHusk
.removeSilk
.rinseretainWater
.pushHusksBackInPlace
.WrapInParchmentOrPlasticWrap
End with

5 min in microwave. 

End if 


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RE: [OT] Single straight guy cooking

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Pete Theisen <> wrote:
> On Friday 03 August 2007 18:19, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> I can't figure out if he name the grill after himself or after one of
>> his sons.
> 
> Hi Larry!
> 
> Just guess at it. You have six chances to be correct.

Did you know that they pitched it to Hulk Hogan first.  He turned them down
so the went to others and George said yes.

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RE: [OT] Single straight guy cooking

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Kristyne McDaniel <> wrote:
> Pete,
> 
> Our George Foreman grill works very well. The grease drips into a
> little tray and it is easy to clean up. I like it a lot. 

Get a pizza dough cut into half or quarters depending on the size of your
grill.  Form it to a rectangle and let it rise for a half an hour.  Put it
into the GF grill and bake it there.  Take it out, put in sliced sausage,
onion and peppers.  Cook them.  Take them out, cut the bread in half, and
invert.  Put the filling inside, brush with olive oil and toast the crust.
Some people will slice the top and bottom off because it's to much crust for
them.  

I could probably do an entire cookbook for the college student using the GF
grill.   

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RE: [OT] Unbreakable

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Ed Leafe <> wrote:
>   Anyone see the movie with Bruce Willis and Samuel L. Jackson about a
> guy who could survive anything? Watch this video for a real-world
> equivalent.  
> 
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KBvCrSjpx9I
> 
>   I still don't believe it!

Damn!  That was some big air.


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RE: [NF] Nothing is Trivial!

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David Boatright <> wrote:
> Mike Wohlrab
>> To add another phrase that many use to computer gurus is "You're good
>> with computers right?"
> 
>  I fixed computers , created a website, designed flyers and buisness
> cards for this woman I worked with, all for free.  No this person
> also had a second job cleaning apartments so I asked her one day if
> she would come around and clean mine. She said sure no problem it
> will cost you $80, she got offended when I said I wanted her to do it
> for free. 

So the sex was in a state of barter?  

Bad Steve!


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RE: [NF] Nothing is Trivial!

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mrgmhale <> wrote:
>> "You're good with
>> computers right?"
> 
> No, actually I suck and know less than most idiots about computers. 
> I just happen to get real lucky, and folks like you are desperate
> enough to pay me to find that out ...  
 
I'm better with kids, so I'll help you find a smart kid.  

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RE: [OT] A War we might just win

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Pete Theisen <> wrote:
> On Monday 30 July 2007 16:50, Michael Madigan wrote:
>> 
>> http://www.nytimes.com/2007/07/30/opinion/30pollack.html?em&ex=11859408
>> 00&e n=a6ab3727cf10b97d&ei=5087%0A
> 
> Hi Michael!
> 
> "The Sunni residents were unhappy with the nearby police checkpoint,
> where Shiite officers reportedly abused them, but they seemed
> genuinely happy with the American soldiers and a mostly Kurdish Iraqi
> Army company patrolling the street. The local Sunni militia even had
> agreed to confine itself to its compound once the Americans and Iraqi
> units arrived." 
> 
> Move it by analogy to the States. The niggers were unhappy with the
> peckerwood police, but they like and respect the chinks. Therefore,
> Asian officers will now patrol the ghetto.  

Pete starting the new comedy carrear?  

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RE: [NF] Consulting saga Code or ID?

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MB Software Solutions <> wrote:
> Stephen the Cook wrote:
>> The saga continues!  I got the new schema for my new project this
>> morning. 
>> It's from my set of management or leaders, with titles like LTA, SA,
>> DBA. 
>> Anyway I am to use a Chr(3) column as the primary key for three
>> identical tables.  I'm over the multiple tables, but now I have a new
>> soapbox to stand on.  We are creating the primary key on a textbox
>> input that the user will think up.  That same key will be displayed
>> when I do my Chinese menu GUI interface of select one  from column A
>> and one from column B. 
>> 
>> 
>> 
> You'll be out of there soon, onto your next adventure I'm
> bettingthey're sure not to like the muddy water you're stirring
> up, especially since they've got those letters!!  ;-)  
> 
> btw, what is LTA?  I googled "What is LTA" but without luck.  I know
> what DBA is and I'm guessing that SA is either Systems Analyst or
> System Architect.  
> 
> Methinks you should be doing your CYA PDQ.  ;-)

Lead Technical Analyist, and System Architect.  

I have the PM on my side for use of the KEY so I don't feel so bad.  

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The saga continues!  I got the new schema for my new project this morning.
It's from my set of management or leaders, with titles like LTA, SA, DBA.
Anyway I am to use a Chr(3) column as the primary key for three identical
tables.  I'm over the multiple tables, but now I have a new soapbox to stand
on.  We are creating the primary key on a textbox input that the user will
think up.  That same key will be displayed when I do my Chinese menu GUI
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RE: [NF] Consulting saga continued or Why Be Normal?

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Charlie Coleman <> wrote:
> At 07:27 AM 7/23/2007 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> hahahah!
>> 
>>  This is an Informix db and I cannot create anything, it's a rights
>> thing. 
>> 
>> I can ask for something, but that is futile.
> 
> Oh, come on!
> 
> You Data Ho's stick together don't you? I mean golly, you're telling
> us how dumb we are for staying with VFP, we should use a real DB
> server, yada, yada. Surely you queen's of DB servers know how to get
> along...   

They are not in my office or state.  I ask the TA who will ask them on my
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RE: [NF] Farewell, sweet laptop, time for a new connection...

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Whil Hentzen (Pro*) <> wrote:
> Kenneth Kixmoeller/fh wrote:
>> On Jul 27, 2007, at 2:59 PM, John Harvey wrote:
>> 
>>> It might be "hammer time!"
>> 
>> More likely "Miller Time" (except Whil likes real beer, right?)
> 
> I live in Milwaukee.
> 
> Beer is beer.

Unless it has the world "lite" in it's title.


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RE: [OT] How to create an angry American

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Michael Madigan <> wrote:
> I'm glad we don't have a surrender monkey like you in charge.

Yeah I bet your glad.  I'd like to have the USA take charge for itself
instead of selling out.  I'd put tariffs on Chinese imports that help keep
jobs here in tact.  To protect our people I'd demand penalties for importers
of known problem goods in food, tires, toys, etc.  How dare you screw us to
make $$$ !

I'd have the military in charge of airport security as well as that of our
ports.  Nothing says tough like seeing automatic weapons marching on the
tarmac or at the security clearance zone.  

Let's talk about crime for a change.  I'd like to see prison farm systems
where the inmates have to produce some of their own food.  We have to put
into place a training program for our penal system that will allow the
outbound person a chance to NOT fall back into their old habits.  How about
home construction or plumbing, electrical, etc?  Just ideas to start.  

What part of this mindset says surrender money?   

 

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Michael Oke, II <> wrote:
> It's not the semen on the dress that outraged me, it was the
> President of the United States going in front of the American people
> and telling us that he did not have sexual intercourse with that
> young women.   

Ed had a video of the lie evolution for the Bush cabinet.  That was ok for
you? But not having "sexual" relations is the stopping point.  

Wow. 

How about spending 1 billion a month of China's money that we are borrowing?
Just for an ego.  I have a problem with that as a 9 and the Clinton
lie/stupidity as a 4.  


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Michael Madigan <> wrote:
> I must have missed the part where George Bush purgered himself under
> oath. 

Everyone of his peeps is told not to talk because he gave an executive
order.  What a crock.


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RE: [OT] How to create an angry American

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Pete Theisen <> wrote:
> On Tuesday 24 July 2007 19:08, Ed Leafe wrote:
>> http://rochesterturning.com/2007/07/23/how-to-create-an-angry-american
>> / ( -or- http://tinyurl.com/2bvema )
> 
> Hi Ed!
> 
> Great Michael Moore style production. Marvelous what you can do with
> time-shifting. 

That a liar is still a liar?  It is great to see the initial BS line and
then the cover up line making seem not so bad any more.

What is worse is that you got so upset over a tiny bit of semen on a blue
dress, but outright lies from the leaders of our country for YEARS is fine
by you.

   

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RE: [NF] Consulting saga continued or Why Be Normal?

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Jim Dettman <> wrote:
> Stephen,
> 
> 
> < and it should reference the Description from lookups.key >> 
> 
>   Interesting that you used the word "proper".
> 
>   The fact that the addition of a shipping charge causes you to want
> to break it out into a separate table implies that you consider a
> "Shipping Type" to be something that is distinctly different then a
> "salutation" and hence they should not be in the same table in the
> first place.  The fact that at the start they have the same set of
> attributes does not change the fact that they are two different
> things.  

What are you smoking?  Shipping types are more then just a simple lookup.
They include rates as well as discounts, and date ranges for their use.
What part of that are you confusing with a simple TEXT description that I
have been speaking of?  

>   This would be shown more directly if had gone with option #1,
> because all the attributes given could not apply to every instance in
> the table (a salutation could not have a shipping charge value).  
> 
>   Interesting too that you'd leave the description in the lookup
> table.  So your shipping type table would look like this? 
> 
> tblShippingTypes
> ShippingTypeID - Autonumber - PK
> DescLookupID - FK to tblLookups
> ShippingCharge - Currency
> 
>   If your going that route, why not:
Nope.  
> tblShippingTypes
> ShippingTypeID - Autonumber - PK
> DescLookupID - FK to tblLookups
> ShippingChargeLookupID - FK to tblLookups
> 
>   and keep the shipping charges as a lookup value?

Sorry but the row of data is time oriented.  You get a Rate for show on your
invoices, your rate, the discount amount, as well as the surcharge.  See 3NF
below.  


>   In either case, you now have attributes of a given instance of some
> "thing" stored in two different tables; definitely not a normalized
> design.  



1NF Eliminate Repeating Groups - Make a separate table for each set of
related attributes, and give each table a primary key.
2NF Eliminate Redundant Data - If an attribute depends on only part of a
multi-valued key, remove it to a separate table.
3NF Eliminate Columns Not Dependent On Key - If attributes do not
contribute to a description of the key, remove them to a separate table.
 
>   A single lookup table is a shortcut plain and simple and it is not
> a normalized design.  Can you get away with it?  Sure.  Have I? Yes
> just as I have used surrogate keys for many years.  But I would not
> claim that any of my designs are fully normalized.   


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RE: [NF] Consulting saga continued or Why Be Normal?

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MB Software Solutions <> wrote:
> Stephen the Cook wrote:
>> Oh well you do what you have to.
> 
> At least you can complain all the way to the bank.  

"You want me to rewrite a working solution with your new tables and it could
take 3 days to complete with the other OBTW stuff that happens?"  :) :) :)

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RE: [NF] Consulting saga continued or Why Be Normal?

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MB Software Solutions <> wrote:
> Paul Newton wrote:
>>> Because you’re a sissy?  http://www.kottke.org/04/10/normalized-data
>>> 
>>> 
>> OK - I checked it out - a LOT of the comments were in disagreement
>> with the thesis 
>> 
> 
> The attitude "space is cheap" has always bothered me.  Imo, it's cut
> from the same cloth as "let's just throw more people/money at the
> problem rather than fix it."  Sure, like everything, the answer "it
> depends" is relevant here yet again.  I've seen tables used for
> messaging and/or simple lookups, and although at one glance they look
> like shit, well, that's what makes the views/stored procedures that
> much more valuable--to extract and give you what you need rather than
> worry about the structure of the underlying database tables.   
> 
> Personally, I don't like denormalization in most instances because of
> the same reason this guy said in the comments of that article: 
> 
> chris crippen says:
> and if you have more then one programmer working on different
> parts of an application, each programmer then needs to know where
> to update each table that that holds this "duplicate" information.
> missing one update could invalidate your entire database.
> *
> *
> 
> The integrity of the data means more to me than squeezing a few more
> fractions of a second for speed. 

Chris Crippen has got to be kidding?  Right?  "each programmer then needs to
know where
to update each table that that holds this "duplicate" information."

What is duplicate information?  Pkey to Fkey or did I miss something along
the lines?  I am not restating the customer info for each Sales Order I
write, and I hope that Chris is not as well.

Having Views and or SPs are just a central code base for extracting data.  I
like them but currently am not allowed to ask for them.  So I have to create
the same code base in a biz tier.  Oh well you do what you have to.

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RE: [NF] Consulting saga continued or Why Be Normal?

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Paul Newton <> wrote:
 
> Obscene ?  Beauty is in the eye of the beholder - I guess the same
> could 
> be said of obscenity !

;->

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RE: [NF] Consulting saga continued or Why Be Normal?

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Paul Newton <> wrote:
> Stephen the Cook wrote:
>> Jim Dettman <> wrote:
>>>   Strictly speaking, a single table for lookup values is not
>>> normalized. 
>> 
>> Bull!
>> 
>> Trust me they are all Normalized to a single table ... Stephen
>> Russell 
>> 
> Sorry Stephen, I trust Jim on this one

Because you’re a sissy?  http://www.kottke.org/04/10/normalized-data

I come from the line of once the table is in ram it's easily accessible.  If
5 lookups are necessary, do you use 5 tables?  If the lookup is Yes or No do
you put that to it's own table? 

How far do you go before you realize that it's extreme or obscene? 
 

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RE: [NF] Consulting saga continued or Why Be Normal?

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Jim Dettman <> wrote:
>   I just went down this road not too long ago.  All I can say is;
> it's nice to be in control. 
> 
>   Strictly speaking, a single table for lookup values is not
> normalized. 
> What your doing with the procedures below is to move part of the
> normalization into your code rather then having it in the database
> design.  

Bull!

Dude, I have 5 set up tables that are all identical.  Pkey, Description, and
other associated crap for table correctness.  

Trust me they are all Normalized to a single table, and to have table for 4,
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RE: VFP6 SP5 data not been updated from view

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MB Software Solutions <> wrote:
> Stephen the Cook wrote:
>> He said that FP was not SAVING his data.  What kind of shit do you
>> put 
>> up with anyway?  If I say save the data it gets saved.  DB2,
>> Informix, 
>> SQL Server, Oracle, MySQL no real difference.  I deal with data
>> centers on the flip side of the country or the globe in a winform
>> environment in 2007. 
>> 
>> 
> 
> I tend to solve the problem rather than just throw money (SQL Server)
> at 
> it.   

If you don't know how to save data money won't fix the problem now will it?


Bad Steve!  

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> Stephen the Cook wrote:
>> Change the backend to a more robust RDBMS of choice.
>> 
> What the heck kind of answer is that?  Do you even have a clue as to
> how many records he's dealing with?  Perhaps not enough to warrant
> SQL Server!  I'm sure you were kidding with that one(right?). 
> imo, his problem doesn't sound anything like it has to do with the
> backend being VFP.

He said that FP was not SAVING his data.  What kind of shit so you put up
with anyway?  If I say save the data it gets saved.  DB2, Informix, SQL
Server, Oracle, MySQL no real difference.  I deal with data centers on the
flip side of the country or the globe in a winform environment in 2007.


 
>> You need to wait to print till you get a successful SaveData() reply.
>> 
> Steve's right (on this one...lol!)make sure your TABLEUPDATE
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RE: [OT] Cheney to become President

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John Harvey <> wrote:
> Bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb Iran
> Bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb Iran
> Bomb Iran, Cheyney's da ma-a-an
> 
> Sorry couldn't resist!

We can't even control a country that we conquered years ago, why should we
continue the stupidity with another land mass? 


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Ajoy Khaund <> wrote:
> Hi All
> I have an app in a pathologhy laboratory. In the reception the first
> data entry takes place. 
> 
> Two tables Parent and Child. I am using views for both tables.
> 
> Data is entered from one form to the Parent and Child. The Data shows
> as saved successfully and even prints a chits with the data
> entered(done from the view).  
> 
> Since there is a mad rush in the morning the form never shows any
> error but the app in its fourth year now sometimes does not save the
> data generally in the child table. By the time they realize it a lot
> of data entry has taken place.   
> 
> Now what I need is:
> 
> 1. How can I warn them at the earliest that data has not been entered
> into the main Child table or Parent Table. 
> 2. What sort of solution can I give them.

Change the backend to a more robust RDBMS of choice.  

You need to wait to print till you get a successful SaveData() reply.  

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RE: [OT] Cheney to become President

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Pete Theisen <> wrote:

> Hi Ed!
> 
> Two and a half hours isn't enough time for lunch in DC.

But it is to to give the order to invade Iran.

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RE: [OT] I'm Ready for Eurodiesel

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Michael Madigan <> wrote:
> I've boycotted all German goods since the Iraq invasion.  The
> Japanese cars are made better, last longer, and get better gas
> milage.  

Who are you kidding?

Jap cars are getting worse over the past 5 years.  They are getting lean and
the lack of quality is now a KNOW issue.

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RE: [NF] anyone using Facebook as the new social / work network?

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> Andrew MacNeill wrote:
>> I'm not too big on the social networking thing as I find it can be a
>> big time waster
> 
> Yeah, all of that crap is wasted on meI know some on here do the
> MySpace thing but to me, that's for the young-ins(read:  those
> not quite mature).  Given all the postings and time I waste here
> (lol!) I don't have time for even yet more time wasters.  :-p   

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RE: [NF] anyone using Facebook as the new social / work network?

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Whil Hentzen (Pro*) <> wrote:
> Stephen Russell wrote:
>> Has anyone gotten caught up in the hype for facebook and all of it's
>> development tools / apps that you can use?
> 
> Nope.
> 
> I'm over 21, you see.

It's how you act Whil.  ;->

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RE: [NF] PostgreSQL :: IIF?

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Ted Roche <> wrote:
> On 7/12/07, Kevin Cully <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
>> SELECT cType, nItemTotal, CASE WHEN UPPER(cType)='EXPENSE', THEN
>> nItemTotal ELSE 0.0 END as nExpTotal FROM MySchema.MyTable WHERE
>> dCreate
>>> = current_date - 365 ORDER BY cType
> 
> 
> No, that's fugly. I'd change it to:
> 
> SELECT cType, nItemTotal, nItemTotal as nExpTotal FROM
> MySchema.MyTable WHERE dCreate >= current_date - 365 AND
> UPPER(cType)='EXPENSE' UNION 
> SELECT cType, nItemTotal, 00.00 as nExpTotal FROM
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> !='EXPENSE' ORDER BY cType 

Way to go Ted.  Union is your friend in situations like this.  

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RE: [OT] $170 for 3 lb of freon?

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Pete Theisen <> wrote:
> Hi Everybody!
> 
> I received a bill today for $170 to put 3 lb of freon in my home AC.
> Is this high, low or average? 

Did they check other things in a check up?  Determine that things were clear
and working and oh you needed 3# of refrigerant, which is A LOT   If you
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RE: [OT] Pope Slams Other Churches

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Ricardo Aráoz <> wrote:
> Michael Madigan wrote:
>> The New Testament IS the Catholic Church.  St. Peter was the first
>> pope.
> 
> Peter was the first Pope, agreed. But the New Testament was written
> BEFORE the church came to be. Peter was just one of eleven, he was
> never appointed by Christ as head of any church.  

Of course you know better Ricardo.

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RE: [JOB] USA based outfit needs Foxpro / Dos programmer

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Pete Theisen <> wrote:
> On Tuesday 10 July 2007 16:09, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Get a look at that salary.  I'd pick up FPD again for that kind of
>> money! 
> 
> Hi Stephen!
> 
> Good deal if you can relocate overseas, and outrun the 'slim ransom
> kidnappers cum head choppers. Were I interviewing for it I would find
> out *where* overseas and by-the-way what happened to the last guy.  

Company:
Dawn Kirsch co
Address:
1460 lake Road, , 60045, USA

http://www.google.com/maps?q=1406+Lake+Rd,+Lake+Forest,+IL+60045,+USA&sa=X&o
i=map&ct=image

Looks like it is just south of Whil.  

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RE: [NF] Good .NET email lists?

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Fletcher Johnson <> wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> 
> 
> Like some of you, I have been using .NET for a while.  Do you know of
> any email lists like this one that focus on .NET? 

This is an incredible list for quality of content as well as beating the
crap out of a thread.

On the .Net side I have not seen near the continuous content that ProFox
has.  There are a few via groups.yahoo.com or the same for google.  

There will be a closer focus to the language so you can find an ASP.NET as
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RE: If dabo did the web would it look like this?

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Jeff Johnson <> wrote:

> I also allow for some temporary local storage in addition to network
> storage for the same reason.  Have you ever asked IT for a major
> corporation to restore a file from backup?  Doesn't matter if its SQL
> server or VFP tables, you will not get it in time to be responsive.   
> 
> My applications are using web services, sending email notifications
> and ftp, connecting to remote databases; but the desktop application
> is the hub for all of the activity.  
> 
> While this may not be considered "best practices", this is what my
> applications have evolved into and reliability is a key feature. 

At my current gig we are talking about much the same thing.  Deliver data in
a webservice style for auto information and keep the local business owner
data local.

This is AutoZone and the brand I deal with is Alldata. 



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RE: If dabo did the web would it look like this?

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MB Software Solutions <> wrote:

> So were you guys just omnipotent or do the masses know something that
> you don't (and hence why there's no desktop frameworks for
> Python)  

Because nobody does the desktop anymore.  It's painful and full of to much
crap like "I want it just like my old app"

Everybody avoids the desktop for a reason. Haven't you figured that out yet.
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RE: [NF] Defining purpose

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Pete Theisen <> wrote:
> Hi Everybody!
> 
> For the last twelve years or so I have been trying to program an
> application to collect research data for Traditional Chinese Medicine
> study in English.  
> It hasn't helped that I don't know jack about programming, or even
> about computers. The only thing that has sustained my efforts is the
> conviction that this is needed by my fish-out-of-water profession.  
> 
> Recently I was told by a programmer I deeply respect that my
> application can't work because I haven't defined what I want it to
> do. Of course, this is true, I've discussed what I want, but not
> *defined* it.   

You just did.  "collect research data for Traditional Chinese Medicine study
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RE: [OT] Scooter scoots!

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> 
> Yeah, I just think the whole case was a sham. He was guilty of
> forgetting at the least. If they want to go after people, they should
> start with the legislators!  

I wish they would go after scoters boss, the real problem with the American
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RE: [NF] So M$ goes to the ultimate in low $

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> 
> oh for pete's sake - just give them the damn software...

Like they do in India?


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RE: [NF] So M$ goes to the ultimate in low $

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> Checked out the "breaking the law" claim with my congressional
> representative, Katherine Harris. She requested a full investigation
> that took several months. The report came back that there was no law
> to stop them from granting our request, they just wanted the money.   

Perhaps they just wanted you off of Win95.  If you had Win98/ME maybe it
would have flown?  

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RE: Bidding for jobs based upon the number of tables involved

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Ted Roche <> wrote:

> The trick is identifying all of the factors involved. 

Got that right.

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RE: [NF] Toshiba hard-coded failure dates

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> I explained it a long time ago, but you may have forgotten. The M$
> crooks have a deal with the To$hiba crooks to keep Linux of of
> To$hiba notebooks. It is a very difficult set-up.  

Bwahahahahahaha.  

You crack me up sometimes.

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> On Thursday 28 June 2007 12:10, Nicholas Geti wrote:
>> DVD drivers are supplied by Windows so any DVD drive should work.
> 
> Hi Nicholas!
> 
> That's what I think, it *should* work, in the moral sense of
> "should". They have it proprietorized in the firmware, however, to
> make sure that it doesn't. Deliberate stealing. Crooks like M$.  

Why is M$ the problem if you loaded Linux on it?

You need to get a grip.  Or is this jut more right wing hatred because Mr.
Bush is worthless and has brought the party down with him?


 
>> CMOS  shouldn't die. Try a new battery or at least momentarily short
>> the CMOS you have to reset it to default and see if it boots.
> 
> Again, I agree, it shouldn't die - but it did. Yes, it is the
> battery, another hundred bucks or so for a $2 item. I think we will
> hack it together like you suggest and then just leave it plugged in.
> We are using it like a desktop anyway.   

Different battery is what he is talking about there Pete.  It's probably the
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RE: Bidding for jobs based upon the number of tables involved

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> Did any of you ever come up with a bid where the number tables in the
> database helped you form the idea of how many screens it'd take to
> support such a database?  I've scoped out the database entities and
> their attributes for a job MBSS is bidding on and am now working to
> derive a price.
> 
> Sure wish I was an expert at FPA (Function Point Analysis)!!  Then
> there'd at least be a (somewhat) consistent formula!   
> 
> (This is a VFP9 app against a MySQL backend).

In my experience the programming work all comes from the business
functionality that your expected to know. 

I have spent 3 weeks on a three table credit card "fix".  I am also working
on other functionality in a separate app for more cc fun for the company.  

I still have on my to do list :
Text boxes and labels are visible after you go through an attempt to make a
charge, fail at it, and then the user changes how they are setting it up.

This is a future charge system and not a real time, think of payments over
time in a software lease for a year.


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RE: [NF] Security Software

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Jeff Johnson <> wrote:
>> -Original Message-
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> On Behalf Of Stephen the Cook
>> Sent: Saturday, June 23, 2007 7:59 AM
>> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Subject: RE: [NF] Security Software
>> 
>> Jeff Johnson <> wrote:
>>> There are two things I would like to accomplish.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I would like the ability to encrypt / decrypt a folder on the hard
>>> drive regardless of what type of files are in it.  For example, I
>>> have a folder with QuickBooks in it.  I would like to encrypt that
>>> folder when I am not using it and decrypt it when I want to open
>>> QuickBooks. 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> The second thing is a wipe disk utility.  I know there are a lot out
>>> there, but I would appreciate your suggestions on something easy to
>>> use.
>> 
>> Degaussing coil for TV screens or a VCR tape eraser will really screw
>> with a hard drive.  Or your evil coworkers laptop ;-)
> 
> Steve:  I have a serious mag mount for my ham radio antennas that
> works great for this, but I want to give my drives to a friend and /
> or charity so they can use them.  I have about 10 drives ranging from
> 20g to 40g that are very useable.   

I took one and did a "mag zap" then did a new install after the fact.  


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RE: [NF] Security Software

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Jeff Johnson <> wrote:
> There are two things I would like to accomplish.
> 
> 
> 
> I would like the ability to encrypt / decrypt a folder on the hard
> drive regardless of what type of files are in it.  For example, I
> have a folder with QuickBooks in it.  I would like to encrypt that
> folder when I am not using it and decrypt it when I want to open
> QuickBooks.
> 
> 
> 
> The second thing is a wipe disk utility.  I know there are a lot out
> there, but I would appreciate your suggestions on something easy to
> use.  

Degaussing coil for TV screens or a VCR tape eraser will really screw with a
hard drive.  Or your evil coworkers laptop ;-)


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RE: Automation with Word 2007

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Graham Dobson <> wrote:
>> run my automation. Gawd, it was an ugly sight.  Nothing worked
>> properly, and trying to fix it was so overwhelming  I decided
>> then and there that I was done trying to code for Office automation.
>> I was not about to recode all the stuff needed to bring Office97
>> functionality to Office 2000. 
>> 
> 
> 
> Maybe it is because I only do straight forward things in Excel, but
> office automation has been a large part of almost every application
> I've ever worked on.  I would like to also say that _Microsoft Office
> Automation with Visual FoxPro_ by Granor and Martin is without any
> reservation whatsoever the very best book ever written on the
> subject.  Graham. 

One of the people I work with is having a hard time getting Word temples
with macros signed for use with out a stupid warning.

We have lots of reporting that puts the output in word and excel.  This is
coming off of Quickbooks data.

Anyone have a clue on certificate registration? 

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RE: Select statement with a max() of 2 values

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Bill Anderson <> wrote:
> Ted Roche wrote:
>> On 6/20/07, Tristan Leask <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> 
>>> SELECT f1, f2, max(f5,f6) as test FROM t1..
>>> 
>>> This looks ok to me, however when I try to run it, foxpro doesn't
>>> like the fact that I am using the MAX() function.
>>> 
>> 
>> MAX() is one of the few times there's a name collision between a
>> native VFP command and the SQL language. Ed's suggestiion of a UDF
>> will work. You could also include an inline IIF(f5>f6, f5, f6) to get
>> a similar effect.
>> 
>> You're not the first to find this. I suspect it might be in the
>> Hacker's Guide. 
> I'm pretty sure I posted a workaround for this on ProFox that ended
> up as a tip in FPA... 
> 
> Search my name and MAX in the archives and see what comes up...

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RE: Design question

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MB Software Solutions <> wrote:
> I've got the following tables:
> 
> * transactions
> * invoice_header
> * invoice_details
> * payment_header
> * payment_details
> 
> I create invoices based on the transactions that haven't been paid.
> "Paid" is defined as follows:  sum(payment_details.namount) >=
> transaction.amount , where the sum is done on matching trans_id keys. 
> I've got a field called "iPaid" in the invoice_header table that is
> set to 1 (true) when all of its detail records have been paid.  This
> allows me to quickly query for all of the UNPAID invoices rather than
> scanning through and comparing the SUM(payment_details.namount) to
> transaction.namount every time.  Eventually I'll put a trigger into
> the payment_details table to achieve this, but for now, it'll be in
> VFP bizobj/dataobj code every time a payment is applied.  
> 
> My question is this:  say I create an invoice ("0001") for your
> unpaid transactions, and 30 days later, when it's time to invoice
> again, you haven't paid them yet.  As the application developer, do
> you create a new invoice ("0002") for the current AND past charges,
> or just create an invoice for the current charges (so that you then
> have 2 invoices in either case), or do you simply open up the
> existing invoice, tack on the current charges, and thus keep the same
> ("0001") invoice?  My concern about having a 2nd invoice is due to my
> having the iPaid field in the invoice_header table, as I described
> above.  2 invoices for the same transactions would prove to be a
> problem when reconciling the payment data.  
> 
> How would you proceed?
> 
> tia!

If they haven't paid you why not just bill them again?

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RE: [OT] Hamas and Fatah and those like them

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Adam Buckland <> wrote:
> Well if you are going to invade anyone that's previously invaded the
> US, might as well include, Spain, the Netherlands and the UK as well
> as Canada.  
> 
> Bad Adam!
> 

They don't have oil so why waste the lives or the resources?

DUH

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RE: [OT] Hamas and Fatah and those like them

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MB Software Solutions General Account <> wrote:
> Graham Dobson wrote:
>> China is good for infaltion and morgage rates.  But what I'm thinking
>> of is the US addiction to oil.  Graham.
>> 
>> 
> 
> Without a doubt, it'd be AWESOME if we didn't have to rely of
> foreign/arab oil.  I'd like to see an argument against that point!!! 
> We must break our dependencies on external sources that could really
> screw us (and some of which are).   

Screw those damn Canadians!  We don't need their oil.  Why don't we just
invade them as well.  They already understand democracy.  

Bad Steve! 

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RE: [OT] Sweet dreams

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Michael Madigan <> wrote:
> If those screws loosen up, he's going to die a stupid death.

Forget a mirror on the ceiling, I have a MONITOR!


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RE: [OT] Why the democrats failed

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Pete Theisen <> wrote:
> On Sunday 17 June 2007 00:27, MB Software Solutions General Account
> wrote: 
>>> There sort of isn't any water out there.
>> 
>> huh?  I thought that deep down, there's water everywhere!  A blond
>> moment? 
> 
> Hi Michael!
> 
> It is in the desert, with all sort of linings and containers, far
> from any water - and monitored by security personnel. The stuff is
> supposed to be contained for a given number of hundreds of years at
> which time there may be a use for the stuff or there may be a better
> means of containment. Probably just put the old container into a
> newer, larger container without even opening it - if they are
> thinking.  
> 
> Yeah, every now and then some scientist will kill himself checking
> out some theory or another, but scientists do that now. Naturally,
> his loving family will sue when that happens.  

Or earthquake.


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RE: [OT] Why the democrats failed

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Ed Leafe <> wrote:
> On Jun 16, 2007, at 10:17 PM, MB Software Solutions General Account
> wrote:
> 
>>> I believe the latest plan is to bury the waste  under ground and
>>> wait for someone to come up with a solution, say in 300 years or so.
>> 
>> Out in Nevada or one of their neighbor states, iirc.  ??
> 
>   Sounds so wonderful. Ever think about the transportation
> requirements? 
> 
>   Typical of the pass-the-buck mentality. Dump it on someone else to
> worry about. 

Why don't we put it under a blown up Mosque in Iraq?  It would be safe
there.  

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RE: sql server - undelete???

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MB Software Solutions <> wrote:
> Mike yearwood wrote:
>> I've always wondered why this idea is not a standard:
>> 
>> Don't let apps delete records. Mark records for deletion with a
>> datetime and delete them after some time period. That's almost what
>> the delete flag does in VFP.
>> 
>> To err is human - to have an ability to un-"delete" is therefore
>> important. 
>> 
> 
> True, but then all of your apps that query must respect that and have
> logic added like "... WHERE iDeleted = 0" or similar. 

Along with an index that supports it.

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Mike yearwood <> wrote:
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 But what about the legitimate changes made AFTER his mistake?
 Wouldn't this approach not have those changes because of "stopping
 short" of them? 
 
>>> 
>>> Who dowes dev work on PROD databases?
>>> 
>>> 
>> I didn't see him say it was dev workbut obviously you want to be
>> extra careful on production databases!  ;-)
>> 
>> --
> 
> I've always wondered why this idea is not a standard:
> 
> Don't let apps delete records. Mark records for deletion with a
> datetime and delete them after some time period. That's almost what
> the delete flag does in VFP.  
> 
> To err is human - to have an ability to un-"delete" is therefore
> important. 

I add a status column as a standard in all of my tables.  It will define to
be deleted as well as never to be deleted.  ;->

Now in updates I always allow first in and alert the close second that
someone beat them.  My update has the where clause 
Where key = KeyValue and UpdateDT = LastUpdateValue

  

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RE: [OT] Check out the voice on this guy

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Michael Madigan <> wrote:
> Come on, he's not that bad.
> 
> Simon knows better and he even said it was good.

I think that Simon knows what the public will buy.  It's all business that
he presents from MPOV.  Now I don't watch/waste my time with Idol.  So it's
limited experience in seeing him interact.  

Some of his comments touch on their musicality, and considering it's a music
contest that is pretty poor.  He has terrible critique skills presented on
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RE: [OT] Why the democrats failed

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Michael Madigan <> wrote:
> Remember:
> 
> The same environmental wackos who made us shut down building any new
> nuclear power stations, are the same environmentalist wackos who now
> want to stop CO2 emissions.  
> 
> We should never listen to kooks.

What are your grandkids going to do with the waste of nuclear power?  It's
not going away in many lifetimes.  There is noting cheap or free with
respect to it.  You have to mine more raw materials and then transform them
to work in your reactor.  

So far we can make a reaction for impact or make a reaction for making heat.
In the close to 70 years have we made much in the way of progress?

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RE: sql server - undelete???

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MB Software Solutions <> wrote:
> Stephen the Cook wrote:
>> In your situation I'd just restore the last full backup, then the
>> daily diffs and finish up with the daily trans logs to bring you
>> close in time to BEFORE your mistake.
>> 
>> 
> 
> But what about the legitimate changes made AFTER his mistake? 
> Wouldn't this approach not have those changes because of "stopping
> short" of them?  

Who dowes dev work on PROD databases?  

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RE: [OT] Check out the voice on this guy

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Kenneth Kixmoeller/fh <> wrote:
> Pretty good for an amateur. If he was in a competition for opera
> singers he wouldn't have a chance -- notice his voice cracking on the
> final "vincero!" This is a tough aria to carry off; that high "C"  
> isn't for the faint-hearted. It is showey, though, and that probably
> swayed the judges. But he certainly has a strong voice. Maybe with
> lessons and work maybe he could have a reasonable career in opera.  

My wife sings in an opera choir so I agree with your statement.  In the real
singer level he is weak at best and why he works with cell phones.  

For a bunch of wankers in talent they think that he is fantastic.  



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RE: sql server - undelete???

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Andy Davies <> wrote:
> Hi,
> I just deleted a bunch of records in error, is there any way to get
> them back or have they actually gone (as I suspect)? 

Your funny!

Look at how much info is for SQL Server under Backup and Restore:


You really need to learn to turn this on for the "oh shit did I just do
that" movements in your development career.

In your situation I'd just restore the last full backup, then the daily
diffs and finish up with the daily trans logs to bring you close in time to
BEFORE your mistake.



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