Re: Inserts over multiple tracks, am I understanding this correctly?

[Poppa Bear]

Slau, when you repaist a plugin to another track do the settings of that plug 
stay the same as well?
Thanks
  - Original Message - 
  From: Slau Halatyn 
  To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2014 1:51 PM
  Subject: Re: Inserts over multiple tracks, am I understanding this correctly?


  Chris,


  This is one of those cases where a modifier click plus a drag is not really 
possible with VoiceOver. Yes, normally, one would Option-click and drag the 
plug-in to create an exact copy on another insert but VoiceOver can't do that, 
at least not now.


  What you'll have to do is instantiate the same plug-ins on the other tracks. 
You can use Shift-Command-c to copy the plug-in settings from the original 
track and then Shift-Command-v to paste those settings into the other tracks. 
You can achieve all of this right from within the plug-in window so it's not 
too bad.


  HTH,


  Slau


  On Apr 15, 2014, at 4:11 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland  
wrote:


Kevin tought me this back in our training, I confess, but he only briefly 
touched on it.  It's not something we spent much time on, so this would be very 
helpful, if someone could help me out, should I be incorrect on any of these 
steps.

So, I have a few audio tracks which I need to put one or 2 plugins on via 
inserts.  I need the inserts chain to be identical over both those tracks.  
Same plugin presets, same tweeks, yoddie yodda.  For reasons which are hard to 
explain without showing you all the actual session, it wouldn't be practical 
for me to route these tracks through a bus, and then receive them on an 
auxiliary track.  they need to remain outputted as normal on their own tracks.  
Anyway, am I understanding correctly, that if I select all of the tracks that I 
want the inserts carried over to through my track list table, then go to the 
first of those tracks, interact with the inserts, then can't I just press 
vo+command+F5 to route my mouse pointer to say, the insert A popup button, then 
hold down my option key while physically clicking the actual trackpad to 
perform a literal click?  In other words, option+clicking on that insert will 
then carry it across?  Am I understanding this concept correctly?  If not, 
please could someone tell me where I'm going wrong?  I really don't wanna spend 
the time having to configure these inserts on each individual track.

Chris.


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Re: Inserts over multiple tracks, am I understanding this correctly?

[Slau Halatyn]

If I'm understanding the question correctly, yes. In other words, 
Option-dragging a plug-in to another track makes a copy of the plug-in along 
with its settings. Of course, as mentioned, with VoiceOver, it's not yet 
possible to do a modifier click or modifier drag so one needs to instantiate 
the same plug-in manually and copy/paste the settings. That said, of course, 
it's possible to select multiple tracks and Option-click on an insert to 
instantiate the same plug-in on all selected tracks and then paste plug-in 
settings into each of those.

Slau

On Apr 16, 2014, at 11:23 AM, Poppa Bear  wrote:

> Slau, when you repaist a plugin to another track do the settings of that plug 
> stay the same as well?
> Thanks
> - Original Message -
> From: Slau Halatyn
> To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
> Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2014 1:51 PM
> Subject: Re: Inserts over multiple tracks, am I understanding this correctly?
> 
> Chris,
> 
> This is one of those cases where a modifier click plus a drag is not really 
> possible with VoiceOver. Yes, normally, one would Option-click and drag the 
> plug-in to create an exact copy on another insert but VoiceOver can't do 
> that, at least not now.
> 
> What you'll have to do is instantiate the same plug-ins on the other tracks. 
> You can use Shift-Command-c to copy the plug-in settings from the original 
> track and then Shift-Command-v to paste those settings into the other tracks. 
> You can achieve all of this right from within the plug-in window so it's not 
> too bad.
> 
> HTH,
> 
> Slau
> 
> On Apr 15, 2014, at 4:11 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland  
> wrote:
> 
>> Kevin tought me this back in our training, I confess, but he only briefly 
>> touched on it.  It's not something we spent much time on, so this would be 
>> very helpful, if someone could help me out, should I be incorrect on any of 
>> these steps.
>>  
>> So, I have a few audio tracks which I need to put one or 2 plugins on via 
>> inserts.  I need the inserts chain to be identical over both those tracks.  
>> Same plugin presets, same tweeks, yoddie yodda.  For reasons which are hard 
>> to explain without showing you all the actual session, it wouldn't be 
>> practical for me to route these tracks through a bus, and then receive them 
>> on an auxiliary track.  they need to remain outputted as normal on their own 
>> tracks.  Anyway, am I understanding correctly, that if I select all of the 
>> tracks that I want the inserts carried over to through my track list table, 
>> then go to the first of those tracks, interact with the inserts, then can't 
>> I just press vo+command+F5 to route my mouse pointer to say, the insert A 
>> popup button, then hold down my option key while physically clicking the 
>> actual trackpad to perform a literal click?  In other words, option+clicking 
>> on that insert will then carry it across?  Am I understanding this concept 
>> correctly?  If not, please could someone tell me where I'm going wrong?  I 
>> really don't wanna spend the time having to configure these inserts on each 
>> individual track.
>>  
>> Chris.
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Re: Inserts over multiple tracks, am I understanding this correctly?

[Poppa Bear]

Ok, thanks for the clerafication
  - Original Message - 
  From: Slau Halatyn 
  To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2014 9:09 AM
  Subject: Re: Inserts over multiple tracks, am I understanding this correctly?


  If I'm understanding the question correctly, yes. In other words, 
Option-dragging a plug-in to another track makes a copy of the plug-in along 
with its settings. Of course, as mentioned, with VoiceOver, it's not yet 
possible to do a modifier click or modifier drag so one needs to instantiate 
the same plug-in manually and copy/paste the settings. That said, of course, 
it's possible to select multiple tracks and Option-click on an insert to 
instantiate the same plug-in on all selected tracks and then paste plug-in 
settings into each of those.


  Slau


  On Apr 16, 2014, at 11:23 AM, Poppa Bear  wrote:


Slau, when you repaist a plugin to another track do the settings of that 
plug stay the same as well?
Thanks
  - Original Message -
  From: Slau Halatyn
  To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
  Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2014 1:51 PM
  Subject: Re: Inserts over multiple tracks, am I understanding this 
correctly?


  Chris,


  This is one of those cases where a modifier click plus a drag is not 
really possible with VoiceOver. Yes, normally, one would Option-click and drag 
the plug-in to create an exact copy on another insert but VoiceOver can't do 
that, at least not now.


  What you'll have to do is instantiate the same plug-ins on the other 
tracks. You can use Shift-Command-c to copy the plug-in settings from the 
original track and then Shift-Command-v to paste those settings into the other 
tracks. You can achieve all of this right from within the plug-in window so 
it's not too bad.


  HTH,


  Slau


  On Apr 15, 2014, at 4:11 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
 wrote:


Kevin tought me this back in our training, I confess, but he only 
briefly touched on it.  It's not something we spent much time on, so this would 
be very helpful, if someone could help me out, should I be incorrect on any of 
these steps.

So, I have a few audio tracks which I need to put one or 2 plugins on 
via inserts.  I need the inserts chain to be identical over both those tracks.  
Same plugin presets, same tweeks, yoddie yodda.  For reasons which are hard to 
explain without showing you all the actual session, it wouldn't be practical 
for me to route these tracks through a bus, and then receive them on an 
auxiliary track.  they need to remain outputted as normal on their own tracks.  
Anyway, am I understanding correctly, that if I select all of the tracks that I 
want the inserts carried over to through my track list table, then go to the 
first of those tracks, interact with the inserts, then can't I just press 
vo+command+F5 to route my mouse pointer to say, the insert A popup button, then 
hold down my option key while physically clicking the actual trackpad to 
perform a literal click?  In other words, option+clicking on that insert will 
then carry it across?  Am I understanding this concept correctly?  If not, 
please could someone tell me where I'm going wrong?  I really don't wanna spend 
the time having to configure these inserts on each individual track.

Chris.


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Protools 11 manual

[Christian]

Hi all,
I have not been able to try PT11 as of yet, but is there an online manual 
somewhere to be able to find out what I can do with it and read about features, 
etc?
Many thanks,
Christian

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Re: Fading

[Nick Gawronski]

Hi, I was the student that was talked about in this message and I 
did a good job on the project.  I did not know about the shortcut in the 
fade dialog and my teacher did not know about it either from the looks 
of the document they sent me.  I will make a new pro tools session and 
try that out with the same track the version that was the normal CD 
audio version and see what happens.  I am running 10.3.8 and the latest 
version of 11.  I will have to test fading out in pro tools 10.3.8 
and see how things work out.  Nick Gawronski

On 4/15/2014 2:24 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:

Yes Slau,
That worked.  I have no idea then why the dialog didn't do it.  that's 
totally bizarre!

Chris.

- Original Message -
*From:* Slau Halatyn 
*To:* ptaccess@googlegroups.com 
*Sent:* Tuesday, April 15, 2014 2:54 PM
*Subject:* Re: Fading

Hi Chris,

There could be any number of reasons why it's not working for you.
I couldn't even begin to really troubleshoot it. Suffice it to
say, however, that the default fade-out, unless you changed it
somewhere, is the equal power fade. So, you don't even have to
open the fades dialog. Simply press Option-g for "fade to end"
which will fade from your current insertion point to the end of
the selected track's region. Give that a try and let's see if
things are working alright.

Slau

On Apr 15, 2014, at 12:56 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland
mailto:clgillan...@gmail.com>> wrote:


OK, yesterday, I was training a client on the use of ProTools,
and we discovered something kind of interesting that I'd like a
little bit of clarification regarding.
Basically, one of the things he had to do in his ProTools college
corse, was to take an mp3 file, import it into PT as an audio
track, then move 3 minutes, and 35 seconds into the recording. 
That part was easy.  Then he had to trim off everything from that

point of the recording to the end.  Again, that also was very
very easy.  Here's however where things got interesting.  The
next step, was for him to move back 20 seconds before the end of
the recording. That was also easily done.  Then however, he had
to apply an equal power fade out from that point forward... so,
basically, the last 20 seconds needed to be faded out.  He was
instructed by his teacher to use command+F to get into the fade
dialog.  Well, for him, he's using ProTools 11.  I'm still using
10.0.  I'm not even on 10.3, for reasons I'm not gonna bore you
all with.  Although, hearing Voiceover on his end with 11, has
got me really really tempted to purchase 11.  Anyway, the point
is, for him, he got into the fade dialog, set it and it worked
perfectly!  He went the 20 seconds back, then did
shift+option+return to select everything to the end of the
session, then command+F, and then he set the radio button in
there to equal, then hit vo+space on OK.  Then when he hit the
space bar to play, it worked.  I tried this on my end, as I've
always wonderred without writing automation if there was a way to
achieve this.  Though the dialog looks fairly accessible in PT
10, I'm finding that it's not doing the fade like it should be. 
Yes, I have made absolutely sure that all tracks were selected in

the track list table, and I made absolutely sure that I was not
only lined up in the session where the fade should start, but
that I had all the audio selected where the fade should occur. 
Even still, when selecting equal power, it's not working.  Now,

there are a few popup/combo boxes as well in this dialog.  Maybe
2 or 3 of them.  The options when I open them up do not seem to
read.  I don't know if they're rellavent or not, but yeah...  Is
this one thing that in P T 11 became accessible, which in 10.X we
didn't really have good access to, or am I doing something wrong.
I'm just trying to determine why it worked for him, yet for me,
it's not doing a thing.
Chris.

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Re: Protools 11 manual

[Steve Sparrow]

Hi go to www.applevis.com 
there are some podcasts for download which gives the lowdown on protools. using 
voice over.

Have not checked these out as yet, but i am told there are there on apple vis, 
Steve

On 17 Apr 2014, at 3:36 am, Christian  wrote:

> Hi all,
> I have not been able to try PT11 as of yet, but is there an online manual 
> somewhere to be able to find out what I can do with it and read about 
> features, etc?
> Many thanks,
> Christian
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Where am i?

[Ramy Moustafa]

Hi all:

when working on pro tools, how can I know what mesure i'm working in right now?
is there any voice over short cut or something that tells us that?

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Re: Where am i?

[Poppa Bear]

I am not in front of my mac right now, but it is in the edit screen under 
one of your clusters, I just can't remember the name.  If I turn PT on here 
soon I will let you know the name of the cluster that you need to interact 
with, it is related to the currser. 


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Re: Fading

[Poppa Bear]

Hey Nick, was your school satisfied with your work on that song?
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  From: Nick Gawronski 
  To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2014 4:03 PM
  Subject: Re: Fading


  Hi, I was the student that was talked about in this message and I did a 
good job on the project.  I did not know about the shortcut in the fade dialog 
and my teacher did not know about it either from the looks of the document they 
sent me.  I will make a new pro tools session and try that out with the same 
track the version that was the normal CD audio version and see what happens.  I 
am running 10.3.8 and the latest version of 11.  I will have to test fading 
out in pro tools 10.3.8 and see how things work out.  Nick Gawronski

  On 4/15/2014 2:24 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:

Yes Slau,

That worked.  I have no idea then why the dialog didn't do it.  that's 
totally bizarre!

Chris.

  - Original Message - 
  From: Slau Halatyn 
  To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2014 2:54 PM
  Subject: Re: Fading


  Hi Chris, 


  There could be any number of reasons why it's not working for you. I 
couldn't even begin to really troubleshoot it. Suffice it to say, however, that 
the default fade-out, unless you changed it somewhere, is the equal power fade. 
So, you don't even have to open the fades dialog. Simply press Option-g for 
"fade to end" which will fade from your current insertion point to the end of 
the selected track's region. Give that a try and let's see if things are 
working alright.


  Slau


  On Apr 15, 2014, at 12:56 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
 wrote:


OK, yesterday, I was training a client on the use of ProTools, and we 
discovered something kind of interesting that I'd like a little bit of 
clarification regarding.

Basically, one of the things he had to do in his ProTools college 
corse, was to take an mp3 file, import it into PT as an audio track, then move 
3 minutes, and 35 seconds into the recording.  That part was easy.  Then he had 
to trim off everything from that point of the recording to the end.  Again, 
that also was very very easy.  Here's however where things got interesting.  
The next step, was for him to move back 20 seconds before the end of the 
recording.  That was also easily done.  Then however, he had to apply an equal 
power fade out from that point forward... so, basically, the last 20 seconds 
needed to be faded out.  He was instructed by his teacher to use command+F to 
get into the fade dialog.  Well, for him, he's using ProTools 11.  I'm still 
using 10.0.  I'm not even on 10.3, for reasons I'm not gonna bore you all with. 
 Although, hearing Voiceover on his end with 11, has got me really really 
tempted to purchase 11.  Anyway, the point is, for him, he got into the fade 
dialog, set it and it worked perfectly!  He went the 20 seconds back, then did 
shift+option+return to select everything to the end of the session, then 
command+F, and then he set the radio button in there to equal, then hit 
vo+space on OK.  Then when he hit the space bar to play, it worked.  I tried 
this on my end, as I've always wonderred without writing automation if there 
was a way to achieve this.  Though the dialog looks fairly accessible in PT 10, 
I'm finding that it's not doing the fade like it should be.  Yes, I have made 
absolutely sure that all tracks were selected in the track list table, and I 
made absolutely sure that I was not only lined up in the session where the fade 
should start, but that I had all the audio selected where the fade should 
occur.  Even still, when selecting equal power, it's not working.  Now, there 
are a few popup/combo boxes as well in this dialog.  Maybe 2 or 3 of them.  The 
options when I open them up do not seem to read.  I don't know if they're 
rellavent or not, but yeah...  Is this one thing that in P T 11 became 
accessible, which in 10.X we didn't really have good access to, or am I doing 
something wrong.

I'm just trying to determine why it worked for him, yet for me, it's 
not doing a thing.

Chris.


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Re: Where am i?

[Matt Diemert]

Hello, the best way to do this, is to use voiceovers hotspot features. I would 
put a hot spot at start, end, and length

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> On Apr 16, 2014, at 9:34 PM, "Poppa Bear"  wrote:
> 
> I am not in front of my mac right now, but it is in the edit screen under one 
> of your clusters, I just can't remember the name.  If I turn PT on here soon 
> I will let you know the name of the cluster that you need to interact with, 
> it is related to the currser. 
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Re: Where am i?

[CHUCK REICHEL]

Hi Matt,
I agree.
Thats one of the first things I do depending on the session.
Hit "command 1" on the num pad to get to transport.
YMMV
Chuck


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> Hello, the best way to do this, is to use voiceovers hotspot features. I 
> would put a hot spot at start, end, and length
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Apr 16, 2014, at 9:34 PM, "Poppa Bear"  wrote:
>> 
>> I am not in front of my mac right now, but it is in the edit screen under 
>> one of your clusters, I just can't remember the name.  If I turn PT on here 
>> soon I will let you know the name of the cluster that you need to interact 
>> with, it is related to the currser. 
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Re: Where am i?

[Slau Halatyn]

Hi Ramy,

In the Edit window, find the counter display cluster and interact. There you'll 
find the Start, End, Length and Main counter displays. Use VoiceOver hot spots 
to remember these counters. Use Control-Option-Shift along with the numbers row 
to save hot spots. When you want to query where the insertion point is, use 
Control-Option-Command and the corresponding number to hear the value. I 
wouldn't use Control-Option and the number because it'll jump focus to that 
counter display field. I've set up four hot spots: 1 for Start, 2 for End, 3 
for Length and 4 for the Main counter.

HTH,

Slau

On Apr 16, 2014, at 10:01 PM, Matt Diemert  wrote:

> Hello, the best way to do this, is to use voiceovers hotspot features. I 
> would put a hot spot at start, end, and length
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Apr 16, 2014, at 9:34 PM, "Poppa Bear"  wrote:
>> 
>> I am not in front of my mac right now, but it is in the edit screen under 
>> one of your clusters, I just can't remember the name.  If I turn PT on here 
>> soon I will let you know the name of the cluster that you need to interact 
>> with, it is related to the currser. 
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