Re: A few questions

[Brian@Wavefield Recordings]

Hi,

Sorry as you may guess I replied in a rush to you originally, so
forgot you had specifically referred to using Voice Over and the mac.

As Slau recommended in his replies the standard version of Protools
and not HD or Protools first would be the best starting point in my
opinion.

I don't know what features other DAWs could have specific to classical
music etc, but Protools should be perfectly sufficient in terms of its
options for cross fading, the ability to tab to transients, even do
some time stretch stuff etc.

The protools with speech tutorials helped me get past the block of not
knowing where to begin, but I never went back to them after an initial
quick listen and getting my feet wet...however I felt it was worth
supporting at the time, and it was based on an out of date protools
version even when I purchased it, however most of the principals
applied. It is much more focused on editing audio than midi as I
remember it, so that will suit you just fine.

I believe Slau has posted some tutorials here, and I haven't listened
to more than one of them quickly, but he is the best Protools resource
I have ever come across full stop, and as you may already tell is very
helpful on list here.

There is a protools access drop box shared folder, which you can ask
to be linked to or search the list archives for reference to it and
Slau's posts on editing.

The list also has many other fantastic contributors, and I would not
count myself as one of those, but hopefully my interjections here have
saved someone else a little typing and presented some of the options
to you.

Best of luck,
Brian.

On 9/19/17, Ignasi Cambra  wrote:
> Hello,
> No no, I am a Mac user and own several of them, so I was hoping to use Pro
> Tools with VoiceOver.
> What would be the best resource for me to get started? Are the Pro Tools
> with Speech tutorials still the way to go or would you recommend something
> more recent? Weren’t those tutorials recorded on Pro Tools 10?
> I would only be mixing and editing acoustic instruments, so would be
> interested in something that touches on those topics rather than Midi
> related issues.
> I will check the Pro Tools site now and see if I can get myself a
> subscription. Thanks for your help!
>
> IC
>> On 19 Sep 2017, at 21:24, Brian Casey 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Ignasi,
>>
>> Firstly your english and questions are perfectly phrased so thank you.
>>
>> I think protools will be perfect for you and all the workflow you describe
>> will be both accessible and more simple than how you do things currently.
>>
>>
>> I edit piano and acoustic instruments every day and protools is perfectly
>> capable of doing everything I need it to do, and though I am a
>> professional audio engineer, I would compare my protools skills as
>> intermediate level in comparisan to others on this list.
>>
>> Hpwever protools is only accessible on the apple mac, and yes the latest
>> version is best.
>>
>> If you have or can borrow a mac computer you can always subscribe to
>> protools for just a month for relatively little money and see how you like
>> it.
>>
>> Hope this helps,
>> Brian
>>
>> Sent from my smart-ish phone!
>>
>>> On 19/09/2017, at 6:51 PM, Ignasi Cambra  wrote:
>>>
>>> Hello all,
>>> First of all I would like to apologize as I’m sure every once in a while
>>> people send emails to this list with this type of questions. I will try
>>> and be as brief as I can.
>>>
>>> I am a classical concert pianist and have a fair amount of recording
>>> equipment at home. I have a nice space with a concert grand, and record
>>> myself often while practicing etc. In classical music the DAW that’s used
>>> in most cases is Sequoia by Magix, which includes certain crossfades
>>> specifically designed for us. Sequoia is not available on the Mac, and is
>>> not accessible on Windows either as far as I know. Knowing that Pro Tools
>>> is probably not the ideal DAw for me I am thinking of purchasing it
>>> anyways, because I understand it’s fully accessible with VoiceOver. Is
>>> that correct? In principle I don’t plan on dealing with huge multitrack
>>> projects. My projects generally include 4-6 tracks, and essentially what
>>> I need is a DAW that will allow me to efficiently edit audio, making
>>> extremely precise cuts at exact points, using crossfades to transition
>>> between different takes etc. Up until now I have been using Reaper for
>>> recording, and then I would render all of my takes to stereo WAV files
>>> and use Audacity to make all the edits, which works surprisingly well.
>>> Would I gain a lot by moving to Pro Tools? Are all of these tasks
>>> accessible? Is the latest version of Pro Tools the best in terms of
>>> accessibility with VoiceOver on mac OS?
>>> Thanks again, and I’m sorry for my ignorance!
>>>
>>> IC
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Re: FloTools issues on sierra 10.12.3 with PT 12.8

[Brian@Wavefield Recordings]

Slau, my apologies, I vaguely recall having been told this already, I
think I have FloTools working as it should in that case. Are you
sucking it up for want of a better phrase and working off Sierra
regardless of this VO bug? My main studio machine is still on Yosemite
and working extremely stable, but it won't allow me let VO be
controlled by apple scripts for some reason, so I'm still weighing up
pros and cons of upgrading for FloTools benefits or staying where I am
for now. That VO bug in Sierra would slow me down quite a bit mixing,
but FLoTools would speed up tracking sessions especially  quite a bit,
the modified mouse click stuff is making me quite happy right now
although I'm only just learning the ropes.

On an aside Slau, we spoke off list a while back about the track list
table showing up to the right/the bottom of the mix window for me an
other unpredictable behaviour, I'm not sure why this is still
happening, but I seem to be able to solve it every time by hiding and
then showing all tracks in the session. I'm no closer to knowing
exactly why it was happening so consistently, but it could be partly
down to the fact that a huge number of my projects were based off the
same session template.

Brian.

On 9/6/17, Slau Halatyn <slauhala...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Brian,
> That's not a Flo Tools issue but a VoiceOver focus issue in Sierra. We've
> talked about that here a few times but you probably missed the discussion.
> Apple is aware of the problem and we're still waiting for them to fix it.
> Yep, it's a hassle to be thrown back to the top of the window each time.
> Thanks Apple :)
> Slau
>
>> On Sep 6, 2017, at 7:42 AM, Brian@Wavefield Recordings
>> <br...@wavefieldrecordings.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I had FloTools working fairly well before upgrading to sierra and had
>> to upgrade for software for my partner to use, anyway I am only using
>> FloTools on this secondary machine fr the moment for various reasons,
>> so I didn't make a backup of my system pre upgrade.
>>
>> So the main issue I'm having is that voice over jumps to the top of
>> the mix window after I close menus or plug-in windows I had accessed
>> with FloTools commands i.e. I open the track output menu on track 16
>> of a sessions for example, and after I select a n output VO jumps back
>> to the top of them window, instead of hanging around track 16. This
>> didn't happen before I upgraded to Sierra.
>>
>> I also seem to be having some other issues with mouse clicks etc, but
>> haven't really had time to explore those things fully.
>>
>> Is there anything I may be missing.
>>
>> I have tried reinstalling FLoTools, I am on the latest PT etc.
>>
>> All suggestions are welcome,
>>
>> Brian.
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FloTools issues on sierra 10.12.3 with PT 12.8

[Brian@Wavefield Recordings]

Hi all,

I had FloTools working fairly well before upgrading to sierra and had
to upgrade for software for my partner to use, anyway I am only using
FloTools on this secondary machine fr the moment for various reasons,
so I didn't make a backup of my system pre upgrade.

So the main issue I'm having is that voice over jumps to the top of
the mix window after I close menus or plug-in windows I had accessed
with FloTools commands i.e. I open the track output menu on track 16
of a sessions for example, and after I select a n output VO jumps back
to the top of them window, instead of hanging around track 16. This
didn't happen before I upgraded to Sierra.

I also seem to be having some other issues with mouse clicks etc, but
haven't really had time to explore those things fully.

Is there anything I may be missing.

I have tried reinstalling FLoTools, I am on the latest PT etc.

All suggestions are welcome,

Brian.

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Re: Flo tools has changed certain behaviours since upgrading to latest PT and OS version

[Brian@Wavefield Recordings]

Thanks for the suggestion Chuck

On 4/5/17, CHUCK REICHEL <soundpicturerecord...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Brian,
> Have you tried the VO feature called "window spots".
> I use it with el cap and have set up num pad keys to set and remove window
> spots and man its great.
> Window spots can be accessed by hitting "control option u" btw
> This is really great in the transport section.
> Talk soon
> Chuck
>
>
> On Apr 5, 2017, at 11:01 AM, Brian@Wavefield Recordings wrote:
>
>> To clarify, the focus jumping back to the top of the mix window is
>> happening both when opening plugins with the flo tools inspecter and
>> the old school route.
>>
>>
>>
>> On 4/5/17, Brian@Wavefield Recordings <br...@wavefieldrecordings.com>
>> wrote:
>>> Ah crap sorry Slau, I had a fear that some of this was already out
>>> there, I  must get a better system for searching/archiving list posts
>>> going.
>>>
>>> Thanks as usual and apologies for going over old ground,
>>>
>>> Preparing to learn to live in acceptance of the bugs,
>>> Brian.
>>>
>>> On 4/5/17, Slau Halatyn <slauhala...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Hi Brian,
>>>> This is the issue with VoiceOver and sierra that was discussed last
>>>> year.
>>>> Apple is aware of the issue and there are other focus issues with
>>>> VoiceOver
>>>> in Sierra. Yes, it is annoying that focus has sort of a "ghost
>>>> remembrance"
>>>> of what was previously in focus. There's no specific work-around except
>>>> that, if you use the Inspector to bring up, say, the plug-in window
>>>> rather
>>>> than interacting, focus goes back to the track you were on before
>>>> opening
>>>> the plug-in window.
>>>>
>>>> As far as hot spots go, you need to make sure that the hot spot is set
>>>> to
>>>> the table itself rather than a focused track, of course. Also, you
>>>> might
>>>> have to reset a hot spot since the OS update. I'm not sure if voiceOver
>>>> focus in general has changed somewhat in Sierra but it might be worth
>>>> resetting the hotspot. Incidentally, you can simply press
>>>> Control+Option+j
>>>> to jump to the track list table and you should automatically be placed
>>>> on
>>>> the first selected track.
>>>>
>>>> HTH,
>>>> Slau
>>>>
>>>>> On Apr 5, 2017, at 10:33 AM, Brian@Wavefield Recordings
>>>>> <br...@wavefieldrecordings.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>
>>>>> So as the subject explains I updated my second machine to test out how
>>>>> things would work with the latest OS and latest PT version.
>>>>>
>>>>> I've been mixing on the go this week and am a bit frustrated to find
>>>>> that the following things have changed which greatly slow down my
>>>>> workflow, so far I think these may be the only issues to pop up.
>>>>>
>>>>> Firstly, when using the command option W key stroke to close plugin
>>>>> windows, Voice Over jumps focus back to the top of the mix window i.e.
>>>>> the left as you arrow with voice over, where as before closing the
>>>>> window would land me back on the name of the track I was working on,
>>>>> which I believe is the proper behaviour.
>>>>>
>>>>> Further more when I arrow back over from the top of the mix window to
>>>>> get back to the track I was working on it will sometimes randomly
>>>>> arrive into the insert section of the track I was working on as I pass
>>>>> by, as though it kind of half remembers I had been working on that
>>>>> track or something. A bit strange and laborious.
>>>>>
>>>>> Secondly, a small detail but a little annoying, I always set hot spot
>>>>> 5 to the trackless table for speed of track selection and such, but it
>>>>> used to automatically interact with he trackless table, now I have to
>>>>> manually interact with the track list table after I jump to the hot
>>>>> spots, not a major deal but its an extra key stroke in my work flow
>>>>> that used to be unnecessary.
>>>>>
>>>>> I haven't really tried solving these issues beyond running the
>>>>> installer

Re: Flo tools has changed certain behaviours since upgrading to latest PT and OS version

[Brian@Wavefield Recordings]

To clarify, the focus jumping back to the top of the mix window is
happening both when opening plugins with the flo tools inspecter and
the old school route.



On 4/5/17, Brian@Wavefield Recordings <br...@wavefieldrecordings.com> wrote:
> Ah crap sorry Slau, I had a fear that some of this was already out
> there, I  must get a better system for searching/archiving list posts
> going.
>
> Thanks as usual and apologies for going over old ground,
>
> Preparing to learn to live in acceptance of the bugs,
> Brian.
>
> On 4/5/17, Slau Halatyn <slauhala...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hi Brian,
>> This is the issue with VoiceOver and sierra that was discussed last year.
>> Apple is aware of the issue and there are other focus issues with
>> VoiceOver
>> in Sierra. Yes, it is annoying that focus has sort of a "ghost
>> remembrance"
>> of what was previously in focus. There's no specific work-around except
>> that, if you use the Inspector to bring up, say, the plug-in window
>> rather
>> than interacting, focus goes back to the track you were on before opening
>> the plug-in window.
>>
>> As far as hot spots go, you need to make sure that the hot spot is set to
>> the table itself rather than a focused track, of course. Also, you might
>> have to reset a hot spot since the OS update. I'm not sure if voiceOver
>> focus in general has changed somewhat in Sierra but it might be worth
>> resetting the hotspot. Incidentally, you can simply press
>> Control+Option+j
>> to jump to the track list table and you should automatically be placed on
>> the first selected track.
>>
>> HTH,
>> Slau
>>
>>> On Apr 5, 2017, at 10:33 AM, Brian@Wavefield Recordings
>>> <br...@wavefieldrecordings.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> So as the subject explains I updated my second machine to test out how
>>> things would work with the latest OS and latest PT version.
>>>
>>> I've been mixing on the go this week and am a bit frustrated to find
>>> that the following things have changed which greatly slow down my
>>> workflow, so far I think these may be the only issues to pop up.
>>>
>>> Firstly, when using the command option W key stroke to close plugin
>>> windows, Voice Over jumps focus back to the top of the mix window i.e.
>>> the left as you arrow with voice over, where as before closing the
>>> window would land me back on the name of the track I was working on,
>>> which I believe is the proper behaviour.
>>>
>>> Further more when I arrow back over from the top of the mix window to
>>> get back to the track I was working on it will sometimes randomly
>>> arrive into the insert section of the track I was working on as I pass
>>> by, as though it kind of half remembers I had been working on that
>>> track or something. A bit strange and laborious.
>>>
>>> Secondly, a small detail but a little annoying, I always set hot spot
>>> 5 to the trackless table for speed of track selection and such, but it
>>> used to automatically interact with he trackless table, now I have to
>>> manually interact with the track list table after I jump to the hot
>>> spots, not a major deal but its an extra key stroke in my work flow
>>> that used to be unnecessary.
>>>
>>> I haven't really tried solving these issues beyond running the
>>> installer for flo tools again and have not yet had time to start from
>>> a clean PT session to see if the problems still occur.
>>>
>>> My main studio machine is still on Yosemite and as some of you may
>>> recall, I couldn't check the box to let voice over be controlled by
>>> apple script, so there fore couldn't install flo tools, so given the
>>> change in behaviour of flo tools after upgrading my second machine,
>>> I'm a little hesitant to do the same to my main machine just to get
>>> flo tools up and running in case anything else goes wrong.
>>>
>>> Any ideas would be greatly appreciated as always and hopefully I
>>> managed to get the message across relatively concisely,
>>>
>>>
>>> Brian.
>>>
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Flo tools has changed certain behaviours since upgrading to latest PT and OS version

[Brian@Wavefield Recordings]

Hi all,

So as the subject explains I updated my second machine to test out how
things would work with the latest OS and latest PT version.

I've been mixing on the go this week and am a bit frustrated to find
that the following things have changed which greatly slow down my
workflow, so far I think these may be the only issues to pop up.

Firstly, when using the command option W key stroke to close plugin
windows, Voice Over jumps focus back to the top of the mix window i.e.
the left as you arrow with voice over, where as before closing the
window would land me back on the name of the track I was working on,
which I believe is the proper behaviour.

Further more when I arrow back over from the top of the mix window to
get back to the track I was working on it will sometimes randomly
arrive into the insert section of the track I was working on as I pass
by, as though it kind of half remembers I had been working on that
track or something. A bit strange and laborious.

Secondly, a small detail but a little annoying, I always set hot spot
5 to the trackless table for speed of track selection and such, but it
used to automatically interact with he trackless table, now I have to
manually interact with the track list table after I jump to the hot
spots, not a major deal but its an extra key stroke in my work flow
that used to be unnecessary.

I haven't really tried solving these issues beyond running the
installer for flo tools again and have not yet had time to start from
a clean PT session to see if the problems still occur.

My main studio machine is still on Yosemite and as some of you may
recall, I couldn't check the box to let voice over be controlled by
apple script, so there fore couldn't install flo tools, so given the
change in behaviour of flo tools after upgrading my second machine,
I'm a little hesitant to do the same to my main machine just to get
flo tools up and running in case anything else goes wrong.

Any ideas would be greatly appreciated as always and hopefully I
managed to get the message across relatively concisely,


Brian.

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Re: Flo tools install problem on my second machine

[Brian@Wavefield Recordings]

Thanks for the idea but there is no lock showing in the voice over
utility its just asking me for the password when I try to tick the box
to allow apple scripts to control voice over.

Its a very strange thing.

Is anyone else here on yosemite still? Its hardly just a bug in this
OS version is it?

I'd really prefer not to update.

On 2/17/17, CHUCK REICHEL <soundpicturerecord...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Brian,
> Have you tried unlocking the section of system preferences your  in.
> IE un lock the bottom right hand corner of the window.
> Usually it asks for a pass word when you try to un-lock the preff pane, to
> make changes so check this out and see?
> Talk soon
> Chuck
>
>
> On Feb 17, 2017, at 4:33 PM, Brian@Wavefield Recordings wrote:
>
>> Hi Steve,
>>
>> Thanks for the idea, I only have one password setup, and its not
>> actually that its rejecting the password , its just when I enter it
>> the box remains unchecked...strange. I have no password set on the
>> other machine on which I installed flo tools with out problems.
>>
>> I'm not great around the apple OS  generally as I'm purely here for
>> protools, so not sure what else I could be missing.
>>
>>
>>
>> On 2/17/17, Steve Martin <monkeypushe...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> This may be stating the obvious, but when you check the allow apple
>>> script
>>> to control VoiceOver checkbox, are you typing in the password you use to
>>> log
>>> into your computer or the password for that user account?
>>>
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>
>>>> On Feb 17, 2017, at 7:04 AM, Slau Halatyn <slauhala...@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi Brian,
>>>> The problem seems to be that you cannot enable Applescript control of
>>>> VoiceOver. I don't know why that would necessarily be but it seems to
>>>> be
>>>> preventing the installation. Perhaps Chi or Rocco can chime in here.
>>>>> On Feb 17, 2017, at 9:12 AM, Brian@Wavefield Recordings
>>>>> <br...@wavefieldrecordings.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks for the swift reply Slau,
>>>>>
>>>>> Well, I seem to have two problems possibly interrelated.
>>>>>
>>>>> 1. I run the installer, where by it speaks to please wait etc, and
>>>>> then voice over speaks that there's a stop button in focus, and then
>>>>> voice over jus returns focus back to the FloTools master folder from
>>>>> where I launched the installer. I can't recall from my other machine
>>>>> if that was how it should have gone or not. Then on opening keyboard
>>>>> maestro it does not show a FloTools group in the macro groups, there's
>>>>> the switcher group etc which have been disabled but nothing saying
>>>>> FloTools.
>>>>>
>>>>> 2. Perhaps related, I can't seem to check the box to allow voice over
>>>>> be controlled by apple scripts. Every time I check the box it bring up
>>>>> my password field, and after entering the password the check box
>>>>> remains unchecked...which is strange.
>>>>>
>>>>> That's obviously a problem but I would have thought the FLoTools
>>>>> macros should still show in keyboard maestro?
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm running Yosemite and PT 12.6 or so on this machine by the way.
>>>>>
>>>>> Brian.
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 2/17/17, Slau Halatyn <slauhala...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> Hi Brian,
>>>>>> This is a perfectly good place to ask questions regarding Flo Tools.
>>>>>> What
>>>>>> result are you getting? Is the installer giving you a notification
>>>>>> that
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> installation was or wasn't successful? Do you have the preference for
>>>>>> allowing AppleScript to control VoiceOVer enabled within checked in
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> VoiceOver Utility?
>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>> Slau
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Feb 17, 2017, at 6:43 AM, Brian@Wavefield Recordings
>>>>>>> <br...@wavefieldrecordings.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Apologies in advance as there is probably a dedicated floTools forum
>>>>>>> for such questions

Re: Flo tools install problem on my second machine

[Brian@Wavefield Recordings]

Hi Steve,

Thanks for the idea, I only have one password setup, and its not
actually that its rejecting the password , its just when I enter it
the box remains unchecked...strange. I have no password set on the
other machine on which I installed flo tools with out problems.

I'm not great around the apple OS  generally as I'm purely here for
protools, so not sure what else I could be missing.



On 2/17/17, Steve Martin <monkeypushe...@gmail.com> wrote:
> This may be stating the obvious, but when you check the allow apple script
> to control VoiceOver checkbox, are you typing in the password you use to log
> into your computer or the password for that user account?
>
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
>> On Feb 17, 2017, at 7:04 AM, Slau Halatyn <slauhala...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Brian,
>> The problem seems to be that you cannot enable Applescript control of
>> VoiceOver. I don't know why that would necessarily be but it seems to be
>> preventing the installation. Perhaps Chi or Rocco can chime in here.
>>> On Feb 17, 2017, at 9:12 AM, Brian@Wavefield Recordings
>>> <br...@wavefieldrecordings.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Thanks for the swift reply Slau,
>>>
>>> Well, I seem to have two problems possibly interrelated.
>>>
>>> 1. I run the installer, where by it speaks to please wait etc, and
>>> then voice over speaks that there's a stop button in focus, and then
>>> voice over jus returns focus back to the FloTools master folder from
>>> where I launched the installer. I can't recall from my other machine
>>> if that was how it should have gone or not. Then on opening keyboard
>>> maestro it does not show a FloTools group in the macro groups, there's
>>> the switcher group etc which have been disabled but nothing saying
>>> FloTools.
>>>
>>> 2. Perhaps related, I can't seem to check the box to allow voice over
>>> be controlled by apple scripts. Every time I check the box it bring up
>>> my password field, and after entering the password the check box
>>> remains unchecked...which is strange.
>>>
>>> That's obviously a problem but I would have thought the FLoTools
>>> macros should still show in keyboard maestro?
>>>
>>> I'm running Yosemite and PT 12.6 or so on this machine by the way.
>>>
>>> Brian.
>>>
>>>> On 2/17/17, Slau Halatyn <slauhala...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Hi Brian,
>>>> This is a perfectly good place to ask questions regarding Flo Tools.
>>>> What
>>>> result are you getting? Is the installer giving you a notification that
>>>> the
>>>> installation was or wasn't successful? Do you have the preference for
>>>> allowing AppleScript to control VoiceOVer enabled within checked in the
>>>> VoiceOver Utility?
>>>> Best,
>>>> Slau
>>>>
>>>>> On Feb 17, 2017, at 6:43 AM, Brian@Wavefield Recordings
>>>>> <br...@wavefieldrecordings.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>
>>>>> Apologies in advance as there is probably a dedicated floTools forum
>>>>> for such questions, but I just got my studio machine back from being
>>>>> repaired and I've had no problems installing FloTools on my backup
>>>>> machine but now I seem to be getting stuck somewhere with my studio
>>>>> machine.
>>>>>
>>>>> I've gone through the usual steps as I did for my other machine but
>>>>> after running the installer the macro group isn't showing up in
>>>>> keyboard maestro.
>>>>>
>>>>> Any quick suggestions, I've a busy couple weeks tracking bands where I
>>>>> won't have time to try much out and would love to have the faster work
>>>>> flow up and running for my sanity!
>>>>>
>>>>> Brian.
>>>>>
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Re: Flo tools install problem on my second machine

[Brian@Wavefield Recordings]

Thanks for the swift reply Slau,

Well, I seem to have two problems possibly interrelated.

1. I run the installer, where by it speaks to please wait etc, and
then voice over speaks that there's a stop button in focus, and then
voice over jus returns focus back to the FloTools master folder from
where I launched the installer. I can't recall from my other machine
if that was how it should have gone or not. Then on opening keyboard
maestro it does not show a FloTools group in the macro groups, there's
the switcher group etc which have been disabled but nothing saying
FloTools.

2. Perhaps related, I can't seem to check the box to allow voice over
be controlled by apple scripts. Every time I check the box it bring up
my password field, and after entering the password the check box
remains unchecked...which is strange.

That's obviously a problem but I would have thought the FLoTools
macros should still show in keyboard maestro?

I'm running Yosemite and PT 12.6 or so on this machine by the way.

Brian.

On 2/17/17, Slau Halatyn <slauhala...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Brian,
> This is a perfectly good place to ask questions regarding Flo Tools. What
> result are you getting? Is the installer giving you a notification that the
> installation was or wasn't successful? Do you have the preference for
> allowing AppleScript to control VoiceOVer enabled within checked in the
> VoiceOver Utility?
> Best,
> Slau
>
>> On Feb 17, 2017, at 6:43 AM, Brian@Wavefield Recordings
>> <br...@wavefieldrecordings.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> Apologies in advance as there is probably a dedicated floTools forum
>> for such questions, but I just got my studio machine back from being
>> repaired and I've had no problems installing FloTools on my backup
>> machine but now I seem to be getting stuck somewhere with my studio
>> machine.
>>
>> I've gone through the usual steps as I did for my other machine but
>> after running the installer the macro group isn't showing up in
>> keyboard maestro.
>>
>> Any quick suggestions, I've a busy couple weeks tracking bands where I
>> won't have time to try much out and would love to have the faster work
>> flow up and running for my sanity!
>>
>> Brian.
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Re: Audio interface problem

[Brian@Wavefield Recordings]

I'll add to this as it might be some bit useful.

I've been bugged by the IO setup a bit in the last few days moving
between different machines, sessions and interfaces, and like Slau
said, deleting the i/o setup and hitting the default button is a good
way to go. Just hit command+A in the i/o setup dialog and then arrow
over to delete and hit that followed by moving to a button that says
default and hit ok.

This didn't work for me yesterday however when I opened a session on
my macbook with only the built in sound on the macbook as my audio
device. The session had been recorded in my studio with my consoles
interface, but I was running into some issues.

I think part of the problem was that when Reopening protools with no
interface connected it had the protools aggregate IO set as the
playback engine rather than the macs built in sound,not sure though.

I haven't exactly been having consistent behaviour from the IO setup
templates etc in the recent days.

The other day while in the studio and opening a session created with
another small interface I travel with sometimes I had no luck with
deleting the IO path and restoring the default, so I just deleted the
outputs and then created 16 new stereo outputs (as my studio interface
is 32 channels), and when I hit ok and routed my tracks to the
appropriate output it worked just fine.

The strange thing is I had no such issues until last week switching
between various interfaces, hard drives, sessions and computers.

HTH and sorry for being long winded,
Brian.

On 1/8/17, Slau Halatyn  wrote:
> Hi Niklas,
> If you saved an I/O Setup to use with your particular interface (and if you
> haven't, you should), You can delete your input and paths and import your
> setup. Otherwise, delete all paths and press the "Default" button in the I/O
> Setup dialog and the tables will populate with all available paths for your
> connected interface.
> HTH,
> Slau
>
>> On Jan 8, 2017, at 3:46 PM, Niklas Karlsson 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Hello all,
>> Hope all is great!
>>
>> I'm sorry that this may be a little off-topic, but I thought i'll ask it
>> here anyway.
>>
>> I'm having a problem with my audio interface and would really appreciate
>> your help:
>> When I open a session, wether it is an existing one or a new one, and try
>> to record-enable a track, the system says "The track could not be record
>> enabled because it doesn't have both an active input and output
>> assigned".
>> When I check my in- and outputs on an earlier created track it looks fine,
>> but it still doesn't work.
>> If I create a new track, it’s showing "No input" and I can't choose any of
>> my usual inputs.
>>
>> Hope I explained it clear enough! :)
>>
>> Thanks very much in advance!
>>
>> All the best,
>> Niklas
>>
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Re: Huge thanks to all involved with Flotools & a minor issue with plugin views

[Brian@Wavefield Recordings]

Ok a final word for now, I mistakenly had spotlight shortcuts still
enabled which were clearly clashing with the control + left/right
arrows so I can now navigate the plugin layout, however I still have
to command tab in and out of protools for the plugin layout for both
EQ3 and dyn3 to load, so there is something up with the windows
displaying I reckon, I've hid all floating windows in PT, but am
wondering if there are some other windows open from another
application that I don't know about.

Unfortunately I'm now realising that I need to figure how to get my f
1 to f 4 keys working on this apple usb keyboard on this macbook,
because I believe VO + f2 twice or some such short cut should give me
info about open windows. When I use VO + k to bring up keyboard help
it doesn't report the f1 through f 4 keys when I press them.

I presume this is a simple and common problem but some googling and a
journey through the key board preferences has shed very little light
for me thus far.

On 1/2/17, Brian@Wavefield Recordings <br...@wavefieldrecordings.com> wrote:
> As a quick follow up, I had success getting FLoTools to report that
> the plugin layout was loaded by command tabbing out and back into
> protools, however in the EQ37 band it is only showing me the controls
> I can access with control and the up/down arrows and not the control +
> left/right arrows, so I'm just getting the q and input level value.
> Have had similar result with the dyn3 which only reports the knee
> value.
>
> This must have something to do with the way windows are showing on my
> machine or something, perhaps its related to the trackless table thing
> after all.
>
> Strange, I haven't knowingly set anything with the OS or VO from
> standard setup.
>
> Brian.
>
> On 1/2/17, Brian@Wavefield Recordings <br...@wavefieldrecordings.com>
> wrote:
>> Hey Slau,
>>
>> Thanks for the reply as always.
>>
>> Sorry about my lack of knowledge on the paths of things in the mac OS,
>> the FloTools folder is indeed in the user library, and the EQ3 and
>> dyn3 files are in there, but FloTools still isn't seeing them or at
>> least not loading them for me. Just in case I tried copying the
>> FloTools files to the system library also.
>>
>> When I open up the text files for the dyn3 and EQ3 7 band the mouse
>> coordinates seem to be in there as expected.
>>
>> On the track inspector toggle issue, that's pure stupidity on my part,
>> I for some reason kept hitting back slash, works like a dream now
>> which is fantastic as I do use letter navigation a lot to speed my way
>> through plugin menus.
>>
>> I definitely have 2.1 installed, and double checked by downloading a
>> second time and reinstalling/restarting just in case but still no luck
>> with loading plugin layouts. I also tried turning on the plugin
>> monitor just to see if that had anything to do with the layout not
>> loading for some reason though as expected it didn't.
>>
>> Finally, I have not yet figured out that issue with everything being
>> to the left of the trackless table, so much so that it is behaving
>> just like that on my main studio machine and my macbook pro, which are
>> both working off different versions of OS 10, so I will catch you off
>> list sometime to discuss that for sure. That behaviour is nothing if
>> not consistent for me, its hardly related to this plugin layout thing
>> is it?
>>
>> Thanks again and hope in my multiple reads of your reply and the
>> FLoTools documentation I haven't missed something totally obvious,
>>
>> Brian.
>>
>> On 1/1/17, Slau Halatyn <slauhala...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Hi Brian,
>>>
>>> Glad you're enjoying Flo Tools. So, to answer your questions, the
>>> Plug-In
>>> Views folder is not in the system library but in your user library. So
>>> the
>>> path is:
>>> ~Library/Application Support/Flo Tools/Plug-In Views. If you go to your
>>> home
>>> folder and bring up the View Options dialog with Command+j, the very
>>> last
>>> checkbox in that window is "show Library Folder." If checked, your home
>>> folder will then reveal the ~Library folder for easier navigation. If
>>> you're
>>> on Sierra, you can then use Command+Shift+l to open the user library
>>> folder
>>> instantly.
>>>
>>> The default view for the EQ 3 7-Band EQ has the coordinates already in
>>> the
>>> text file but the view file ending in -1 never had the coordinates
>>> added.
>>> We
>>> included it more for illustration purposes but then decided ma

Re: Huge thanks to all involved with Flotools & a minor issue with plugin views

[Brian@Wavefield Recordings]

As a quick follow up, I had success getting FLoTools to report that
the plugin layout was loaded by command tabbing out and back into
protools, however in the EQ37 band it is only showing me the controls
I can access with control and the up/down arrows and not the control +
left/right arrows, so I'm just getting the q and input level value.
Have had similar result with the dyn3 which only reports the knee
value.

This must have something to do with the way windows are showing on my
machine or something, perhaps its related to the trackless table thing
after all.

Strange, I haven't knowingly set anything with the OS or VO from
standard setup.

Brian.

On 1/2/17, Brian@Wavefield Recordings <br...@wavefieldrecordings.com> wrote:
> Hey Slau,
>
> Thanks for the reply as always.
>
> Sorry about my lack of knowledge on the paths of things in the mac OS,
> the FloTools folder is indeed in the user library, and the EQ3 and
> dyn3 files are in there, but FloTools still isn't seeing them or at
> least not loading them for me. Just in case I tried copying the
> FloTools files to the system library also.
>
> When I open up the text files for the dyn3 and EQ3 7 band the mouse
> coordinates seem to be in there as expected.
>
> On the track inspector toggle issue, that's pure stupidity on my part,
> I for some reason kept hitting back slash, works like a dream now
> which is fantastic as I do use letter navigation a lot to speed my way
> through plugin menus.
>
> I definitely have 2.1 installed, and double checked by downloading a
> second time and reinstalling/restarting just in case but still no luck
> with loading plugin layouts. I also tried turning on the plugin
> monitor just to see if that had anything to do with the layout not
> loading for some reason though as expected it didn't.
>
> Finally, I have not yet figured out that issue with everything being
> to the left of the trackless table, so much so that it is behaving
> just like that on my main studio machine and my macbook pro, which are
> both working off different versions of OS 10, so I will catch you off
> list sometime to discuss that for sure. That behaviour is nothing if
> not consistent for me, its hardly related to this plugin layout thing
> is it?
>
> Thanks again and hope in my multiple reads of your reply and the
> FLoTools documentation I haven't missed something totally obvious,
>
> Brian.
>
> On 1/1/17, Slau Halatyn <slauhala...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hi Brian,
>>
>> Glad you're enjoying Flo Tools. So, to answer your questions, the Plug-In
>> Views folder is not in the system library but in your user library. So
>> the
>> path is:
>> ~Library/Application Support/Flo Tools/Plug-In Views. If you go to your
>> home
>> folder and bring up the View Options dialog with Command+j, the very last
>> checkbox in that window is "show Library Folder." If checked, your home
>> folder will then reveal the ~Library folder for easier navigation. If
>> you're
>> on Sierra, you can then use Command+Shift+l to open the user library
>> folder
>> instantly.
>>
>> The default view for the EQ 3 7-Band EQ has the coordinates already in
>> the
>> text file but the view file ending in -1 never had the coordinates added.
>> We
>> included it more for illustration purposes but then decided maybe it
>> would
>> be good to add the coordinate values and we simply forgot to do that.
>> I've
>> started to paste in the coordinates into that file and will share it
>> soon.
>>
>> If you haven't already done so, go to floTools.org <http://flotools.org/>
>> and download the latest version which is Flo Tools 2.01. Just unzip the
>> file
>> and run the installer. To be on the safe side, at least this time, reboot
>> your machine. It's not strictly necessary but it'll help avoid potential
>> issues after this first installation using the new installer. From there
>> on
>> in, you'll receive notifications whenever there's a new update to Flo
>> Tools.
>> Hopefully, this will resolve the conflict with the Inspector which now
>> simply toggles on or off when you press the forward slash key.
>>
>> If you have any further issues, don't hesitate to reach out.
>>
>> BTW, I finally saw that behavior you were experiencing with absolutely
>> everything appearing to the left of the the Track List. Next time we
>> chat,
>> I'll explain what's happening and how to fix it in case you haven't
>> figured
>> it out for yourself :)
>>
>> Cheers and happy new year!
>>
>> Slau
>>
>>> On Jan 1, 2017, at 1:57 PM, Brian@Wavefield Recordings
>&g

Re: Huge thanks to all involved with Flotools & a minor issue with plugin views

[Brian@Wavefield Recordings]

Hey Slau,

Thanks for the reply as always.

Sorry about my lack of knowledge on the paths of things in the mac OS,
the FloTools folder is indeed in the user library, and the EQ3 and
dyn3 files are in there, but FloTools still isn't seeing them or at
least not loading them for me. Just in case I tried copying the
FloTools files to the system library also.

When I open up the text files for the dyn3 and EQ3 7 band the mouse
coordinates seem to be in there as expected.

On the track inspector toggle issue, that's pure stupidity on my part,
I for some reason kept hitting back slash, works like a dream now
which is fantastic as I do use letter navigation a lot to speed my way
through plugin menus.

I definitely have 2.1 installed, and double checked by downloading a
second time and reinstalling/restarting just in case but still no luck
with loading plugin layouts. I also tried turning on the plugin
monitor just to see if that had anything to do with the layout not
loading for some reason though as expected it didn't.

Finally, I have not yet figured out that issue with everything being
to the left of the trackless table, so much so that it is behaving
just like that on my main studio machine and my macbook pro, which are
both working off different versions of OS 10, so I will catch you off
list sometime to discuss that for sure. That behaviour is nothing if
not consistent for me, its hardly related to this plugin layout thing
is it?

Thanks again and hope in my multiple reads of your reply and the
FLoTools documentation I haven't missed something totally obvious,

Brian.

On 1/1/17, Slau Halatyn <slauhala...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Brian,
>
> Glad you're enjoying Flo Tools. So, to answer your questions, the Plug-In
> Views folder is not in the system library but in your user library. So the
> path is:
> ~Library/Application Support/Flo Tools/Plug-In Views. If you go to your home
> folder and bring up the View Options dialog with Command+j, the very last
> checkbox in that window is "show Library Folder." If checked, your home
> folder will then reveal the ~Library folder for easier navigation. If you're
> on Sierra, you can then use Command+Shift+l to open the user library folder
> instantly.
>
> The default view for the EQ 3 7-Band EQ has the coordinates already in the
> text file but the view file ending in -1 never had the coordinates added. We
> included it more for illustration purposes but then decided maybe it would
> be good to add the coordinate values and we simply forgot to do that. I've
> started to paste in the coordinates into that file and will share it soon.
>
> If you haven't already done so, go to floTools.org <http://flotools.org/>
> and download the latest version which is Flo Tools 2.01. Just unzip the file
> and run the installer. To be on the safe side, at least this time, reboot
> your machine. It's not strictly necessary but it'll help avoid potential
> issues after this first installation using the new installer. From there on
> in, you'll receive notifications whenever there's a new update to Flo Tools.
> Hopefully, this will resolve the conflict with the Inspector which now
> simply toggles on or off when you press the forward slash key.
>
> If you have any further issues, don't hesitate to reach out.
>
> BTW, I finally saw that behavior you were experiencing with absolutely
> everything appearing to the left of the the Track List. Next time we chat,
> I'll explain what's happening and how to fix it in case you haven't figured
> it out for yourself :)
>
> Cheers and happy new year!
>
> Slau
>
>> On Jan 1, 2017, at 1:57 PM, Brian@Wavefield Recordings
>> <br...@wavefieldrecordings.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> So a major thanks first of all, it took me a little while to join the
>> FloTools party but it is such a revolution as you all know. I'm
>> particularly excited about how much faster I can do basic routing
>> stuff etc while clients are in the room during high pressure tracking
>> situations. Everything is so intuitive.
>>
>> The only issue so far in the new version is that the included plugin
>> layout for the EQ3 etc have not installed for some reason. There is no
>> FloTools folder in library back slash application support for some
>> reason. When I call up the script for the plugin the layout only has
>> the 0 comma 0 values entered. For some reason I can't get the track
>> inspector on and off either, I believe I couldn't do this in version
>> one as well.
>>
>> Is there a drop box folder or a page planned for the FloTools website
>> where I can grab the plugin layouts already created, I hope to create
>> some myself for the sound toys plugins if somebody hasn't already, as
>> typing in values in 

Huge thanks to all involved with Flotools & a minor issue with plugin views

[Brian@Wavefield Recordings]

Hi all,

So a major thanks first of all, it took me a little while to join the
FloTools party but it is such a revolution as you all know. I'm
particularly excited about how much faster I can do basic routing
stuff etc while clients are in the room during high pressure tracking
situations. Everything is so intuitive.

The only issue so far in the new version is that the included plugin
layout for the EQ3 etc have not installed for some reason. There is no
FloTools folder in library back slash application support for some
reason. When I call up the script for the plugin the layout only has
the 0 comma 0 values entered. For some reason I can't get the track
inspector on and off either, I believe I couldn't do this in version
one as well.

Is there a drop box folder or a page planned for the FloTools website
where I can grab the plugin layouts already created, I hope to create
some myself for the sound toys plugins if somebody hasn't already, as
typing in values in edit fields will make some of their plugins so
much more useful for me and others. I also plan to do Valhalla room if
anyone is interested.

Anyway many thanks and much excitement,
Brian.

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AAX plug-ins for impulse responses

[Brian@Wavefield Recordings]

Hi guys,

Thought I'd put this question out there quickly as a scan of the
archive hasn't shown up mention of this since the jump to AAX.

Is there or has there ever been a good way to use impulse responses in
PT with Voice Over, do any of the waves ones or anything work?

I have a nice collection of EMT IR's and springs etc I put together
myself which were a big part of my reverb arsenal in Sonar.

If its not an option, would anyone suggest a good third party reverb
to add to the Valhalla room I have..not super impressed with the stock
offerings so far but of course they could be bent into shape.

Brian.

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Changing parameters in AAX plug-ins in PT 12

[Brian@Wavefield Recordings]

Hi all,

I'm probably missing something but I'm not able to change parameters
with a lasting effect in plug-ins at the moment, thankfully I've no
mixes to finish anytime soon and its interesting getting buy on
presets for rough mixes.

Any parameter changes I make while transport is engaged or while
transport is stopped get changed back to the  plug-in or preset
default positions when I resume playback later.

I've tried changing  automation modes and tried writing in my changes
as automatin moves in the plug-in but no luck, no parameter changes
will stick for me.

I've scanned through the preferences but no setting seems to be
relevant to this.

Thanks for any answers possible solutions etc,

Brian.

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Re: an observation about the Mix window

[Brian@Wavefield Recordings]

Thanks Nate, yeah Protools is becoming fun already, really liking the
editing and punching features etc. Never really got my head around
that side of it when I gave it a go when 8.0.4 came out.



On 4/22/15, Poppa Bear heavens4r...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hey Bryan, FYI, to toggle on and off Input monitoring it is Option K. If you
 want to be able to monitor a client without having to press record while a
 track is playing then you would use this.
 Glad that you made the jump back to PT.

 -Original Message-
 From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of Slau Halatyn
 Sent: Tuesday, April 21, 2015 3:04 PM
 To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: an observation about the Mix window

 Glad to hear you got through it and lived. Speak soon, Slau

 On Apr 21, 2015, at 7:01 PM, Brian@Wavefield Recordings
 br...@wavefieldrecordings.com wrote:

 Hey Slau,

 Thanks for the response, yeah the track list table always seems to
 come after the tracks in the mix window for me..I fiddled with a few
 things today and low and behold all meters are showing, and its a
 fairly busy template I have for my analog desk with circa 30 tracks.

 Got through tracking 4 songs wwith a 3 piece band today so heres to
 jumping in the deep end.

 Still none the wiser about the exact reason for certain things that
 happen with Voice Over in Protools but I get the impression that might
 be something I'll have to get used to for the time being.

 I did run into a problem trying to playback the session after
 recording today but it was down to the input only monitoring mode I
 had accidentally selected, or at least that seemed to be it.

 I've yet to dive into editing and mixing really but a brief encounter
 with the trim plug-in to reverse polarity on a track today didn't go
 well, for some reason the polarity would only change during playback,
 and then when I stopped and hit play again the parameter reverted back
 to its default state...the same thing happened with a gate  plug-in I
 quickly tried  out on a snare track, I adjusted all parameters from
 the keyboard while listening to the audio and then when I closed the
 window and went off to do something else it went back to the default
 setting that were there when I first incerted the plug.

 I'm sure its something to do with an automation mode or something.

 Sorry for going off topic but its been a long, testing but successful
 day in studio.

 Brian.

 On 4/21/15, Slau Halatyn slauhala...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi Brian,

 Well, you've sure chosen to dive in at the deep end, eh? No pressure
 ;)

 It's odd that you would have seen the tracks list table after all of
 your tracks. I've never seen that behavior. To be clear, though, you
 are, in fact, seeing the tracks list table in the Mix window? Under
 the view menu, you can show or hide the tracks list table. I'm not at
 the studio so I'm not 100% sure but I believe it's under the Other
 Displays menu. If you're seeing any tracks in the Mix window, that
 would suggest that they're being shown and, unless you have something
 on the order of 24 tracks, pretty much all of them should be visible
 and displaying correctly. Make sure you don't have the narrow mix
 window displayed (under the view menu). I don't know what else to
 tell you on such short notice. Yeah, good thing you know your preamps
 and, as long as you're recording at 24 bits, you have loads of headroom.
 Even at your most conservative, you should be fine.

 Slau

 On Apr 20, 2015, at 10:58 PM, CaseyBrian Casey
 br...@wavefieldrecordings.com wrote:

 Hi all, I've just jumped on the PT band waggon, and am all ready to
 go tracking my first session in studio, but meter reading issues
 have come out of no where, leading me to be very much less prepared
 than I had thought.

 The catch may well be that I'm using PT 12 on osx 10.10 so if
 someone has that around and can chime in I'd really appreciate it. I
 didn't know any means of sticking to PT 11 on the subscription plan
 I have so thought 12 should be fairly consistent in terms of its
 behaviour with Voice over.

 I was reading peaks just fine before but can't get any consistent
 behaviour now with the tips in this thread or any combination of
 hiding and unhiding tracks. Luckily I know my pre-amps ok and should
 be able to track without input metering for tomorrows session, but
 I'll probably get some strange looks from some observing musician at
 some stage when I record super low accidentally or something.

 I'm not sure if it is something that has changed in PT 12  but I
 don't seem to be getting a pop up list button for the track list in
 the mix window, I have a track list table and a group list table.
 From using PT ages ago on version 8 and listen to the PT with speech
 tutorials I seem to be under the impression there was a pop up
 button somewhere for a track list.

 When I am VO and right arrowing over from the close button of the
 mix window, the track list table and other

Re: an observation about the Mix window

[Brian@Wavefield Recordings]

Hey Slau,

Thanks for the response, yeah the track list table always seems to
come after the tracks in the mix window for me..I fiddled with a few
things today and low and behold all meters are showing, and its a
fairly busy template I have for my analog desk with circa 30 tracks.

Got through tracking 4 songs wwith a 3 piece band today so heres to
jumping in the deep end.

Still none the wiser about the exact reason for certain things that
happen with Voice Over in Protools but I get the impression that might
be something I'll have to get used to for the time being.

I did run into a problem trying to playback the session after
recording today but it was down to the input only monitoring mode I
had accidentally selected, or at least that seemed to be it.

I've yet to dive into editing and mixing really but a brief encounter
with the trim plug-in to reverse polarity on a track today didn't go
well, for some reason the polarity would only change during playback,
and then when I stopped and hit play again the parameter reverted back
to its default state...the same thing happened with a gate  plug-in I
quickly tried  out on a snare track, I adjusted all parameters from
the keyboard while listening to the audio and then when I closed the
window and went off to do something else it went back to the default
setting that were there when I first incerted the plug.

I'm sure its something to do with an automation mode or something.

Sorry for going off topic but its been a long, testing but successful
day in studio.

Brian.

On 4/21/15, Slau Halatyn slauhala...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi Brian,

 Well, you've sure chosen to dive in at the deep end, eh? No pressure ;)

 It's odd that you would have seen the tracks list table after all of your
 tracks. I've never seen that behavior. To be clear, though, you are, in
 fact, seeing the tracks list table in the Mix window? Under the view menu,
 you can show or hide the tracks list table. I'm not at the studio so I'm not
 100% sure but I believe it's under the Other Displays menu. If you're seeing
 any tracks in the Mix window, that would suggest that they're being shown
 and, unless you have something on the order of 24 tracks, pretty much all of
 them should be visible and displaying correctly. Make sure you don't have
 the narrow mix window displayed (under the view menu). I don't know what
 else to tell you on such short notice. Yeah, good thing you know your
 preamps and, as long as you're recording at 24 bits, you have loads of
 headroom. Even at your most conservative, you should be fine.

 Slau

 On Apr 20, 2015, at 10:58 PM, CaseyBrian Casey
 br...@wavefieldrecordings.com wrote:

 Hi all, I've just jumped on the PT band waggon, and am all ready to go
 tracking my first session in studio, but meter reading issues have come
 out of no where, leading me to be very much less prepared than I had
 thought.

 The catch may well be that I'm using PT 12 on osx 10.10 so if someone has
 that around and can chime in I'd really appreciate it. I didn't know any
 means of sticking to PT 11 on the subscription plan I have so thought 12
 should be fairly consistent in terms of its behaviour with Voice over.

 I was reading peaks just fine before but can't get any consistent
 behaviour now with the tips in this thread or any combination of hiding
 and unhiding tracks. Luckily I know my pre-amps ok and should be able to
 track without input metering for tomorrows session, but I'll probably get
 some strange looks from some observing musician at some stage when I
 record super low accidentally or something.

 I'm not sure if it is something that has changed in PT 12  but I don't
 seem to be getting a pop up list button for the track list in the mix
 window, I have a track list table and a group list table. From using PT
 ages ago on version 8 and listen to the PT with speech tutorials I seem to
 be under the impression there was a pop up button somewhere for a track
 list.

 When I am VO and right arrowing over from the close button of the mix
 window, the track list table and other bits and pieces come after all the
 tracks in my session.

 No amount of paging up or down and such has seemed to have solved this for
 me and even shrinking down the session to only showing 4 or so tracks
 doesn't allow me to read meters on all 4 tracks, just a couple.

 Voice Over does speak that there is a level meter, just not a value for
 it.

 Also when trying to option click or command click stuff I'm not getting
 any real luck after routing the mouse to the Voice Over curser, but I'm
 new to all this, so there are probably any number of ways I'm shooting
 myself in the foot.

 Any quick feedback is much appreciated.


 On Sunday, April 12, 2015 at 11:16:58 PM UTC+1, Slau Halatyn wrote:
 For a few years, I've been using the newer versions of Pro Tools but only
 began using the latest version at the studio as of this year. Having spent
 more time with PT 11 on a day-to-day basis, I've come to notice 

Re: Tell me what to buy

[Brian@Wavefield Recordings]

The quad core mini's server or otherwise are very thin on the ground
these days unfortunately, especially here in Ireland.

Plus they're almost becoming a saught after item used so probably not
the best value.

Now I remember why I dislike macs, even shopping on the mac store
online is frustrating as hell!

Thanks for your thoughts!

On 3/31/15, Scott Chesworth scottcheswo...@gmail.com wrote:
 Is it worth picking up a quad core Mac Mini second hand? If you go
 that route, keep an eye open for the server version. It allows you to
 shove two drives in the box for a slightly neater setup.

 Scott

 On 3/31/15, Brian@Wavefield Recordings br...@wavefieldrecordings.com
 wrote:
 Thanks for that, I was wondering if the PT with speech had setup stuff
 but there might be extra tips and tricks in PT and V O prefs that
 people are using here.

 The gs-r 24 m is in fact an amazing desk, so much so I'll invest in a
 mac and PT and change everything to use its features fully. Its a
 sizable investment though even for a professional setup, but its
 appearance alone is nearly bringing in clients. People will really
 think I'm a grown up studio when I have a mac and a desk now, where as
 before despite some great outboard and great converters people were
 still like, wheres the mixer and what software are you using.

 Now figuring out which mac  to buy as always is a head ache as they've
 ingeniously set out all options to wind up making it a choice between
 spending lots or settling for less.

 If they still had the quad core mac mini I think that would be perfect
 for me, not sure how much performance PT will get out of the current
 dual core i7 at the top of the mini range.

 I'm coming from a quad core i7 2.7 ghz on the windows side with 16 gig
 ram, but the new PT and mac OS is presumably much better at using
 hiper threading etc than Sonar 8 and Windows 7, so maybe a seemingly
 lesser processor in a mac now won't actually leave me too
 disappointed.

 That's kind of off topic though.

 All ideas welcome still!

 On 3/31/15, TheOreoMonster monkeypushe...@gmail.com wrote:
 Quad core iMac should serve you well. Envious of your board. I am  a
 user
 of
 the originator and younger brother of that board the ZED r16 and love
 it.
 From what i understand PT with speech should walk you through settings
 and
 ge you going.
 On Mar 30, 2015, at 2:03 PM, CaseyBrian Casey
 br...@wavefieldrecordings.com wrote:

 Hi guys,

 I'm a Sonar user and it looks like my hand is being forced into moving
 to
 ProTools quite quickly for my now commercial studio.

 Essentially I am upgrading to a nice Allen and Heath gs-r 24
 mixer/interface, and for numerous reasons I won't get into both its
 midi
 control and audio functionality aren't jplaying well with Sonar and my
 PC.
 I could send it back but I don't want to because its just a computer
 issue.

 Anyway, I'm weighing up jumping to working off the mac and ProTools
 exclusively, which may sound some what foolish an it probably is, but I
 did use ProTools and Voice Over for a few projects when 8.0.4 came out
 first and I'll mostly be working from my desk and outboard equipment,
 so
 it should be a little easier.

 I am thinking of going for a quad core imac because a mac pro is out of
 my
 budget and I don't need too much processing heft.

 So I'd like suggestions of what I should get to start off, I have a
 potential list so far and tell me what you might add/change.

 1. Obviously an external thunderbolt drive for the audio, iLock, full
 keyboard with the num pad etc, most here seem to recommend a track pad
 too?
 2. The latest osx and protools 12 should cause no problems so may as
 well
 go with the new one?


 3. I want to get the ProTools with speech tutorials straight away to
 get
 up and running with basics fast, is it all still up to date and
 relevant?
 4. Does anyone have or wish to compile for me/future users a list of
 ProTools preference settings, Voice Over preference settings etc that
 will
 serve me well, I have a quick run through the archives but honestly I
 don't have time to read anymore than I have and information is
 fragmented
 between all the various PT changes etc since 8.0.4.

 Other than  these things I don't have any huge ideas short of just
 hitting
 the buy button and jumping in.

 As I say I've used Mac's sparingly and not with loads of joy in the
 past,
 and I do have an iPhone so I'm at least some bit in tune with the evil
 Apple ways.

 Thanks in advance,
 Brian.

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Re: Tell me what to buy

[Brian@Wavefield Recordings]

Thanks for that, I was wondering if the PT with speech had setup stuff
but there might be extra tips and tricks in PT and V O prefs that
people are using here.

The gs-r 24 m is in fact an amazing desk, so much so I'll invest in a
mac and PT and change everything to use its features fully. Its a
sizable investment though even for a professional setup, but its
appearance alone is nearly bringing in clients. People will really
think I'm a grown up studio when I have a mac and a desk now, where as
before despite some great outboard and great converters people were
still like, wheres the mixer and what software are you using.

Now figuring out which mac  to buy as always is a head ache as they've
ingeniously set out all options to wind up making it a choice between
spending lots or settling for less.

If they still had the quad core mac mini I think that would be perfect
for me, not sure how much performance PT will get out of the current
dual core i7 at the top of the mini range.

I'm coming from a quad core i7 2.7 ghz on the windows side with 16 gig
ram, but the new PT and mac OS is presumably much better at using
hiper threading etc than Sonar 8 and Windows 7, so maybe a seemingly
lesser processor in a mac now won't actually leave me too
disappointed.

That's kind of off topic though.

All ideas welcome still!

On 3/31/15, TheOreoMonster monkeypushe...@gmail.com wrote:
 Quad core iMac should serve you well. Envious of your board. I am  a user of
 the originator and younger brother of that board the ZED r16 and love it.
 From what i understand PT with speech should walk you through settings and
 ge you going.
 On Mar 30, 2015, at 2:03 PM, CaseyBrian Casey
 br...@wavefieldrecordings.com wrote:

 Hi guys,

 I'm a Sonar user and it looks like my hand is being forced into moving to
 ProTools quite quickly for my now commercial studio.

 Essentially I am upgrading to a nice Allen and Heath gs-r 24
 mixer/interface, and for numerous reasons I won't get into both its midi
 control and audio functionality aren't jplaying well with Sonar and my PC.
 I could send it back but I don't want to because its just a computer
 issue.

 Anyway, I'm weighing up jumping to working off the mac and ProTools
 exclusively, which may sound some what foolish an it probably is, but I
 did use ProTools and Voice Over for a few projects when 8.0.4 came out
 first and I'll mostly be working from my desk and outboard equipment, so
 it should be a little easier.

 I am thinking of going for a quad core imac because a mac pro is out of my
 budget and I don't need too much processing heft.

 So I'd like suggestions of what I should get to start off, I have a
 potential list so far and tell me what you might add/change.

 1. Obviously an external thunderbolt drive for the audio, iLock, full
 keyboard with the num pad etc, most here seem to recommend a track pad
 too?
 2. The latest osx and protools 12 should cause no problems so may as well
 go with the new one?


 3. I want to get the ProTools with speech tutorials straight away to get
 up and running with basics fast, is it all still up to date and relevant?
 4. Does anyone have or wish to compile for me/future users a list of
 ProTools preference settings, Voice Over preference settings etc that will
 serve me well, I have a quick run through the archives but honestly I
 don't have time to read anymore than I have and information is fragmented
 between all the various PT changes etc since 8.0.4.

 Other than  these things I don't have any huge ideas short of just hitting
 the buy button and jumping in.

 As I say I've used Mac's sparingly and not with loads of joy in the past,
 and I do have an iPhone so I'm at least some bit in tune with the evil
 Apple ways.

 Thanks in advance,
 Brian.

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