Re: Evaluating AAX Plug-Ins for Accessibility
So, this is wonderful! I just wonder where exactly we go, and who we contact specifically to rate individual plugs which we use. --- Christopher Gilland Phone: 704-594-2225 E-mail: clgillan...@gmail.com Web site: http://www.clgproductions.com Twitter: @gilland_chris Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/chris28210 Skype: chris28210 IMessage/Facetime: cgwaxhawlo...@clgproductions.com Zello: clgproductions and: christablet123 Please kindly, add both, if you don't mind. - Original Message - From: Ricky Prevatte rickypreva...@gmail.com To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, December 01, 2014 11:52 AM Subject: Re: Evaluating AAX Plug-Ins for Accessibility Thank you for this email. I used another product I am now the proud owner of ProTools 11. As a direct result from your company's email I try to support anyone who will help blind people gain excess abilityto a complete digital atmosphere.I look forward to encouraging other blind people to join us on the ProTools platform I also look forward to trying many third-party plugs. Ricky Prevatte LMBT1154 On Nov 30, 2014, at 9:06 AM, John Gunn g...@tznet.com wrote: Hello Ed, Sorry I haven't replied till now, was gone for a bit. I applaud your email, feedback from blind users is very important. Dialog is greate and you and Avid offering this kind of feedback is great, welcome to the list. I look forward for more of your emails. Johbn On Nov 7, 2014, at 1:50 AM, Ed Gray e1000g...@gmail.com wrote: Dear Google Accessibility Discussion Group Members: Avid has recently enjoyed the opportunity to work with visually impaired audio professionals to improve VoiceOver support for Pro Tools, and we want to keep these improvements coming. Just as importantly, we want to encourage our Connectivity Partners (our new collective name for all third party technology developers) to follow suit. In working with this team, we drafted a plug-In accessibility rating system that we will soon finalize and share with third parties. It is our hope that the blind user community will come to score AAX plug-ins based on this framework or something similar. Here is the working rating system, for which you are welcome to provide input: AAX plug-in is rated from 1 to 5 with 5 representing “strong agreement” for the following criteria: 1. Plug-in can be installed and its license authorized without sighted assistance. 2. Plug-in can be registered without sighted assistance 3. Plug-in supports Pro Tools standard methodology for save/load of presets or employs a proprietary substitute that supports VoiceOver 4. All user-controllable parameters are speakable with VoiceOver 5. Plug-in contains accurate page tables for Avid control surfaces compatible with Pro Tools 11 or higher 6. Connectivity Partner makes customer-facing statement in support of accessibility and provides contact information for related inquiries. So, let us know what you think, and together, we can make accessibility a “first class citizen” on the roadmaps of as many Connectivity Partners as possible. Gratefully, Ed Gray Director, Partnering Programs | Product Management Avid -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Pro Tools Accessibility group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Pro Tools Accessibility group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Pro Tools Accessibility group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Pro Tools Accessibility group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Evaluating AAX Plug-Ins for Accessibility
Thank you for this email. I used another product I am now the proud owner of ProTools 11. As a direct result from your company's email I try to support anyone who will help blind people gain excess abilityto a complete digital atmosphere.I look forward to encouraging other blind people to join us on the ProTools platform I also look forward to trying many third-party plugs. Ricky Prevatte LMBT1154 On Nov 30, 2014, at 9:06 AM, John Gunn g...@tznet.com wrote: Hello Ed, Sorry I haven't replied till now, was gone for a bit. I applaud your email, feedback from blind users is very important. Dialog is greate and you and Avid offering this kind of feedback is great, welcome to the list. I look forward for more of your emails. Johbn On Nov 7, 2014, at 1:50 AM, Ed Gray e1000g...@gmail.com wrote: Dear Google Accessibility Discussion Group Members: Avid has recently enjoyed the opportunity to work with visually impaired audio professionals to improve VoiceOver support for Pro Tools, and we want to keep these improvements coming. Just as importantly, we want to encourage our Connectivity Partners (our new collective name for all third party technology developers) to follow suit. In working with this team, we drafted a plug-In accessibility rating system that we will soon finalize and share with third parties. It is our hope that the blind user community will come to score AAX plug-ins based on this framework or something similar. Here is the working rating system, for which you are welcome to provide input: AAX plug-in is rated from 1 to 5 with 5 representing “strong agreement” for the following criteria: 1. Plug-in can be installed and its license authorized without sighted assistance. 2. Plug-in can be registered without sighted assistance 3. Plug-in supports Pro Tools standard methodology for save/load of presets or employs a proprietary substitute that supports VoiceOver 4. All user-controllable parameters are speakable with VoiceOver 5. Plug-in contains accurate page tables for Avid control surfaces compatible with Pro Tools 11 or higher 6. Connectivity Partner makes customer-facing statement in support of accessibility and provides contact information for related inquiries. So, let us know what you think, and together, we can make accessibility a “first class citizen” on the roadmaps of as many Connectivity Partners as possible. Gratefully, Ed Gray Director, Partnering Programs | Product Management Avid -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Pro Tools Accessibility group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Pro Tools Accessibility group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Pro Tools Accessibility group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Evaluating AAX Plug-Ins for Accessibility
Hello Ed, Sorry I haven't replied till now, was gone for a bit. I applaud your email, feedback from blind users is very important. Dialog is greate and you and Avid offering this kind of feedback is great, welcome to the list. I look forward for more of your emails. Johbn On Nov 7, 2014, at 1:50 AM, Ed Gray e1000g...@gmail.com wrote: Dear Google Accessibility Discussion Group Members: Avid has recently enjoyed the opportunity to work with visually impaired audio professionals to improve VoiceOver support for Pro Tools, and we want to keep these improvements coming. Just as importantly, we want to encourage our Connectivity Partners (our new collective name for all third party technology developers) to follow suit. In working with this team, we drafted a plug-In accessibility rating system that we will soon finalize and share with third parties. It is our hope that the blind user community will come to score AAX plug-ins based on this framework or something similar. Here is the working rating system, for which you are welcome to provide input: AAX plug-in is rated from 1 to 5 with 5 representing “strong agreement” for the following criteria: 1. Plug-in can be installed and its license authorized without sighted assistance. 2. Plug-in can be registered without sighted assistance 3. Plug-in supports Pro Tools standard methodology for save/load of presets or employs a proprietary substitute that supports VoiceOver 4. All user-controllable parameters are speakable with VoiceOver 5. Plug-in contains accurate page tables for Avid control surfaces compatible with Pro Tools 11 or higher 6. Connectivity Partner makes customer-facing statement in support of accessibility and provides contact information for related inquiries. So, let us know what you think, and together, we can make accessibility a “first class citizen” on the roadmaps of as many Connectivity Partners as possible. Gratefully, Ed Gray Director, Partnering Programs | Product Management Avid -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Pro Tools Accessibility group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Pro Tools Accessibility group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Evaluating AAX Plug-Ins for Accessibility
Hello, That’s a great initiative. One point to consider is, if browsers to load sound libraries, also can accessed by Voiceover. Best Stefan Am 07.11.2014 um 08:50 schrieb Ed Gray e1000g...@gmail.com: Dear Google Accessibility Discussion Group Members: Avid has recently enjoyed the opportunity to work with visually impaired audio professionals to improve VoiceOver support for Pro Tools, and we want to keep these improvements coming. Just as importantly, we want to encourage our Connectivity Partners (our new collective name for all third party technology developers) to follow suit. In working with this team, we drafted a plug-In accessibility rating system that we will soon finalize and share with third parties. It is our hope that the blind user community will come to score AAX plug-ins based on this framework or something similar. Here is the working rating system, for which you are welcome to provide input: AAX plug-in is rated from 1 to 5 with 5 representing “strong agreement” for the following criteria: 1. Plug-in can be installed and its license authorized without sighted assistance. 2. Plug-in can be registered without sighted assistance 3. Plug-in supports Pro Tools standard methodology for save/load of presets or employs a proprietary substitute that supports VoiceOver 4. All user-controllable parameters are speakable with VoiceOver 5. Plug-in contains accurate page tables for Avid control surfaces compatible with Pro Tools 11 or higher 6. Connectivity Partner makes customer-facing statement in support of accessibility and provides contact information for related inquiries. So, let us know what you think, and together, we can make accessibility a “first class citizen” on the roadmaps of as many Connectivity Partners as possible. Gratefully, Ed Gray Director, Partnering Programs | Product Management Avid -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Pro Tools Accessibility group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Pro Tools Accessibility group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Evaluating AAX Plug-Ins for Accessibility
Well I can say this message has convinced me to be sure I have available cash to purchase ProTools before the end of the year. It is great to have a company other than Apple to set aside a team to work to make a product accessible to the blind I challenge everyone to purchase ProTools and get on board make it worth the companies time. Ricky Prevatte LMBT1154 On Nov 7, 2014, at 5:27 PM, mcdiemert . mcdiem...@gmail.com wrote: Scott, While I don't have any examples of a developer who has successfully used a custom browser approach to presets, I can tell you that there are several extremely nice plugs that have created excellent software while using the built in preset browser. The Elysia Mpressor, UAD plugs, as well as all of the McDsp plugs are excellent. Can't recommend the Mpressor any more highly than any other plug I've ever used. All of these that I mentioned are extremely accessible, including presets available within the stock browser popup menu. Regards: Matt www.protoolswithspeech.com On 11/7/14, Scott Chesworth scottcheswo...@gmail.com wrote: No suggestions of additions to that framework are springing to mind here (it seems like a thorough system), but it did raise a question. Has anyone come across one of these proprietary substitute browser thingies that can actually be used with VoiceOver? I ask because when communicating with plugin developers, I've often been asked to cite an example where this stuff has been implemented well, and I don't yet have any examples to point a curious developer toward. Awesome to see Avid posting publicly here... thanks for everything you've done so far Ed! Scott On 11/7/14, Poppa Bear heavens4r...@gmail.com wrote: I think that since they have opened the door then blind users need to approach them and ask what you're asking now. Follow up with the gentlemen who sent the email from Avid. From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Krister Ekstrom Sent: Friday, November 07, 2014 12:08 AM To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Evaluating AAX Plug-Ins for Accessibility Hi there, i think this sounds really great. When we say all user controlable parameters does that include editing of drum patterns and/or step sequenser parameters and patterns as well? How would we rate those plugins whos sequensers etc can't be manipulated? Example of this would be Strike, Boom, (if i'm wrong here please correct me) Arturia Jupiter8v and CS80V. Thanks /Krister 7 nov 2014 kl. 08:50 skrev Ed Gray e1000g...@gmail.com: Dear Google Accessibility Discussion Group Members: Avid has recently enjoyed the opportunity to work with visually impaired audio professionals to improve VoiceOver support for Pro Tools, and we want to keep these improvements coming. Just as importantly, we want to encourage our Connectivity Partners (our new collective name for all third party technology developers) to follow suit. In working with this team, we drafted a plug-In accessibility rating system that we will soon finalize and share with third parties. It is our hope that the blind user community will come to score AAX plug-ins based on this framework or something similar. Here is the working rating system, for which you are welcome to provide input: AAX plug-in is rated from 1 to 5 with 5 representing strong agreement for the following criteria: 1. Plug-in can be installed and its license authorized without sighted assistance. 2. Plug-in can be registered without sighted assistance 3. Plug-in supports Pro Tools standard methodology for save/load of presets or employs a proprietary substitute that supports VoiceOver 4. All user-controllable parameters are speakable with VoiceOver 5. Plug-in contains accurate page tables for Avid control surfaces compatible with Pro Tools 11 or higher 6. Connectivity Partner makes customer-facing statement in support of accessibility and provides contact information for related inquiries. So, let us know what you think, and together, we can make accessibility a first class citizen on the roadmaps of as many Connectivity Partners as possible. Gratefully, Ed Gray Director, Partnering Programs | Product Management Avid -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Pro Tools Accessibility group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Pro Tools Accessibility group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout
Re: Evaluating AAX Plug-Ins for Accessibility
This is a great idea. Great job Avid. This group would be a good resource to push critical mass on the review database. There are many more of us who are not active on the Google Groups platform who would nonetheless be interested in these accessibility reviews. On Thursday, November 6, 2014 11:50:28 PM UTC-8, Ed Gray wrote: Dear Google Accessibility Discussion Group Members: Avid has recently enjoyed the opportunity to work with visually impaired audio professionals to improve VoiceOver support for Pro Tools, and we want to keep these improvements coming. Just as importantly, we want to encourage our Connectivity Partners (our new collective name for all third party technology developers) to follow suit. In working with this team, we drafted a plug-In accessibility rating system that we will soon finalize and share with third parties. It is our hope that the blind user community will come to score AAX plug-ins based on this framework or something similar. Here is the working rating system, for which you are welcome to provide input: AAX plug-in is rated from 1 to 5 with 5 representing “strong agreement” for the following criteria: 1. Plug-in can be installed and its license authorized without sighted assistance. 2. Plug-in can be registered without sighted assistance 3. Plug-in supports Pro Tools standard methodology for save/load of presets or employs a proprietary substitute that supports VoiceOver 4. All user-controllable parameters are speakable with VoiceOver 5. Plug-in contains accurate page tables for Avid control surfaces compatible with Pro Tools 11 or higher 6. Connectivity Partner makes customer-facing statement in support of accessibility and provides contact information for related inquiries. So, let us know what you think, and together, we can make accessibility a “first class citizen” on the roadmaps of as many Connectivity Partners as possible. Gratefully, Ed Gray Director, Partnering Programs | Product Management Avid -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Pro Tools Accessibility group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Evaluating AAX Plug-Ins for Accessibility
Hi there, i think this sounds really great. When we say all user controlable parameters does that include editing of drum patterns and/or step sequenser parameters and patterns as well? How would we rate those plugins whos sequensers etc can’t be manipulated? Example of this would be Strike, Boom, (if i’m wrong here please correct me) Arturia Jupiter8v and CS80V. Thanks /Krister 7 nov 2014 kl. 08:50 skrev Ed Gray e1000g...@gmail.com: Dear Google Accessibility Discussion Group Members: Avid has recently enjoyed the opportunity to work with visually impaired audio professionals to improve VoiceOver support for Pro Tools, and we want to keep these improvements coming. Just as importantly, we want to encourage our Connectivity Partners (our new collective name for all third party technology developers) to follow suit. In working with this team, we drafted a plug-In accessibility rating system that we will soon finalize and share with third parties. It is our hope that the blind user community will come to score AAX plug-ins based on this framework or something similar. Here is the working rating system, for which you are welcome to provide input: AAX plug-in is rated from 1 to 5 with 5 representing “strong agreement” for the following criteria: 1. Plug-in can be installed and its license authorized without sighted assistance. 2. Plug-in can be registered without sighted assistance 3. Plug-in supports Pro Tools standard methodology for save/load of presets or employs a proprietary substitute that supports VoiceOver 4. All user-controllable parameters are speakable with VoiceOver 5. Plug-in contains accurate page tables for Avid control surfaces compatible with Pro Tools 11 or higher 6. Connectivity Partner makes customer-facing statement in support of accessibility and provides contact information for related inquiries. So, let us know what you think, and together, we can make accessibility a “first class citizen” on the roadmaps of as many Connectivity Partners as possible. Gratefully, Ed Gray Director, Partnering Programs | Product Management Avid -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Pro Tools Accessibility group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Pro Tools Accessibility group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Evaluating AAX Plug-Ins for Accessibility
Ed, Thank you for perhaps the most positive statement regarding accessibility that I have ever read from any company or oganization. Especially impressive, beyond your ongoing commitment to increased accessibility, is your interest in involving third-party plug-in manufacturers in the process! This hints at industry-wide change in a positive direction. Honestly, most days, I have felt like lasting positive change is a pipe dream. I'm still a Windows user of a competing product, but when I have the necessary funds, be asured I will be switching to ProTools on the Mac. Thank you to all involved in this ongoing process, from the folks at Avid, Apple, other manufacturers, but especially to the blind audio professionals on this list. This, if nothing else, is a sign of what respectful professional dialog can accomplish, compared with infighting, competing interests and barely legible wining that one sees elsewhere, often among amateur hobbyists with very little at steak. Hopefully, third-party manufacturers will quickly realize the benefits of being part of these improvements for us, more blind folks will be able to participate in college recording programs with little or know special modification, and especially, we may be able to simply walk into any studio running the newest ProTools and get to work. For all I know, a lot of this is already possible. Thanks again for the much needed positive news. Can I distribute your update in a few other places? No doubt, others are also tired of swimming against the tide, especially when so many boats are finally drifting in the right direction so-to-speak. Chris -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Pro Tools Accessibility group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Evaluating AAX Plug-Ins for Accessibility
PTAccess.com perhaps, with the requisit twitter/facebook accounts... especially twitter. At 10:11 AM 11/7/2014, you wrote: no that's an excelent idea. This stuff needs to be coordinated, centralized and easy to get to for all involved. At 06:34 AM 11/7/2014, you wrote: Hi, I just had an idea and i hope it’s not too silly. When this rating system is in place and working, maybe someone skilled could start a site rather like AppleVis that could inform users of accessible/non-accessible plugins as well as having a preset repository of some sort. What do you others think, am i way out here? /Krister 7 nov 2014 kl. 12:15 skrev John André Lium-Netland eml...@a-pro-studio.no: Hi, This is a very promising initiative, that I appreciate. Your list covers indeed areas where several plugins I own lack sufficient compatibility with VoiceOver. Rating plugins this way will make the issues more transparent to both the developers and users. Best, John André Lium-Netland -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Pro Tools Accessibility group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Pro Tools Accessibility group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Pro Tools Accessibility group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Pro Tools Accessibility group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Evaluating AAX Plug-Ins for Accessibility
No suggestions of additions to that framework are springing to mind here (it seems like a thorough system), but it did raise a question. Has anyone come across one of these proprietary substitute browser thingies that can actually be used with VoiceOver? I ask because when communicating with plugin developers, I've often been asked to cite an example where this stuff has been implemented well, and I don't yet have any examples to point a curious developer toward. Awesome to see Avid posting publicly here... thanks for everything you've done so far Ed! Scott On 11/7/14, Poppa Bear heavens4r...@gmail.com wrote: I think that since they have opened the door then blind users need to approach them and ask what you're asking now. Follow up with the gentlemen who sent the email from Avid. From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Krister Ekstrom Sent: Friday, November 07, 2014 12:08 AM To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Evaluating AAX Plug-Ins for Accessibility Hi there, i think this sounds really great. When we say all user controlable parameters does that include editing of drum patterns and/or step sequenser parameters and patterns as well? How would we rate those plugins whos sequensers etc can't be manipulated? Example of this would be Strike, Boom, (if i'm wrong here please correct me) Arturia Jupiter8v and CS80V. Thanks /Krister 7 nov 2014 kl. 08:50 skrev Ed Gray e1000g...@gmail.com: Dear Google Accessibility Discussion Group Members: Avid has recently enjoyed the opportunity to work with visually impaired audio professionals to improve VoiceOver support for Pro Tools, and we want to keep these improvements coming. Just as importantly, we want to encourage our Connectivity Partners (our new collective name for all third party technology developers) to follow suit. In working with this team, we drafted a plug-In accessibility rating system that we will soon finalize and share with third parties. It is our hope that the blind user community will come to score AAX plug-ins based on this framework or something similar. Here is the working rating system, for which you are welcome to provide input: AAX plug-in is rated from 1 to 5 with 5 representing strong agreement for the following criteria: 1. Plug-in can be installed and its license authorized without sighted assistance. 2. Plug-in can be registered without sighted assistance 3. Plug-in supports Pro Tools standard methodology for save/load of presets or employs a proprietary substitute that supports VoiceOver 4. All user-controllable parameters are speakable with VoiceOver 5. Plug-in contains accurate page tables for Avid control surfaces compatible with Pro Tools 11 or higher 6. Connectivity Partner makes customer-facing statement in support of accessibility and provides contact information for related inquiries. So, let us know what you think, and together, we can make accessibility a first class citizen on the roadmaps of as many Connectivity Partners as possible. Gratefully, Ed Gray Director, Partnering Programs | Product Management Avid -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Pro Tools Accessibility group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Pro Tools Accessibility group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Pro Tools Accessibility group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Pro Tools Accessibility group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Evaluating AAX Plug-Ins for Accessibility
Scott, While I don't have any examples of a developer who has successfully used a custom browser approach to presets, I can tell you that there are several extremely nice plugs that have created excellent software while using the built in preset browser. The Elysia Mpressor, UAD plugs, as well as all of the McDsp plugs are excellent. Can't recommend the Mpressor any more highly than any other plug I've ever used. All of these that I mentioned are extremely accessible, including presets available within the stock browser popup menu. Regards: Matt www.protoolswithspeech.com On 11/7/14, Scott Chesworth scottcheswo...@gmail.com wrote: No suggestions of additions to that framework are springing to mind here (it seems like a thorough system), but it did raise a question. Has anyone come across one of these proprietary substitute browser thingies that can actually be used with VoiceOver? I ask because when communicating with plugin developers, I've often been asked to cite an example where this stuff has been implemented well, and I don't yet have any examples to point a curious developer toward. Awesome to see Avid posting publicly here... thanks for everything you've done so far Ed! Scott On 11/7/14, Poppa Bear heavens4r...@gmail.com wrote: I think that since they have opened the door then blind users need to approach them and ask what you're asking now. Follow up with the gentlemen who sent the email from Avid. From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Krister Ekstrom Sent: Friday, November 07, 2014 12:08 AM To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Evaluating AAX Plug-Ins for Accessibility Hi there, i think this sounds really great. When we say all user controlable parameters does that include editing of drum patterns and/or step sequenser parameters and patterns as well? How would we rate those plugins whos sequensers etc can't be manipulated? Example of this would be Strike, Boom, (if i'm wrong here please correct me) Arturia Jupiter8v and CS80V. Thanks /Krister 7 nov 2014 kl. 08:50 skrev Ed Gray e1000g...@gmail.com: Dear Google Accessibility Discussion Group Members: Avid has recently enjoyed the opportunity to work with visually impaired audio professionals to improve VoiceOver support for Pro Tools, and we want to keep these improvements coming. Just as importantly, we want to encourage our Connectivity Partners (our new collective name for all third party technology developers) to follow suit. In working with this team, we drafted a plug-In accessibility rating system that we will soon finalize and share with third parties. It is our hope that the blind user community will come to score AAX plug-ins based on this framework or something similar. Here is the working rating system, for which you are welcome to provide input: AAX plug-in is rated from 1 to 5 with 5 representing strong agreement for the following criteria: 1. Plug-in can be installed and its license authorized without sighted assistance. 2. Plug-in can be registered without sighted assistance 3. Plug-in supports Pro Tools standard methodology for save/load of presets or employs a proprietary substitute that supports VoiceOver 4. All user-controllable parameters are speakable with VoiceOver 5. Plug-in contains accurate page tables for Avid control surfaces compatible with Pro Tools 11 or higher 6. Connectivity Partner makes customer-facing statement in support of accessibility and provides contact information for related inquiries. So, let us know what you think, and together, we can make accessibility a first class citizen on the roadmaps of as many Connectivity Partners as possible. Gratefully, Ed Gray Director, Partnering Programs | Product Management Avid -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Pro Tools Accessibility group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Pro Tools Accessibility group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Pro Tools Accessibility group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Pro Tools Accessibility group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email