Re: What's needed to effectively use Pro tools as a blind person?
A control surface is different from an interface. The M Box has all your ins and outs for recording and playback. The control surface controls the faders on screen. Some surfaces have an interface built in like the 003, but the BCF 2000 is just the control surface. So, you'll need both at this point, unless you eventually upgrade to a surface with an interface built in. Kevin -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Pro Tools Accessibility" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: What's needed to effectively use Pro tools as a blind person?
Krister, the 003 is both a control surface and an interface in one unit. The MBox is just an interface alone. Depending on which MBox you have, it's probably just a FireWire port. Various control surfaces out there would either be USB, MIDI or Ethernet. Most likely, you'll encounter either USB or MIDI. Slau On Jan 27, 2013, at 2:20 PM, Krister Ekstrom wrote: > Hi, > So, if i get a control surface, the MBox isn't needed at all, right? I looked > at the pricing of the Digi003 Factory fader and it was way way over my budget > with a 5 figure price tag in Swedish crowns. > /Krister > > 27 jan 2013 kl. 19:31 skrev Slau Halatyn : > >> In the case of most interfaces, they have MIDI ports built in. In the cases >> where there is no MIDI implementation, you'll need some type of USB MIDI >> interface like anything from M-Audio. For keyboards, depending on the >> controller, they might have a USB interface or MIDI or both. >> >> Slau >> >> On Jan 27, 2013, at 5:26 AM, Krister Ekstrom wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> All this is very interesting info since i'm a beginner to all this. I >>> bought myself a PT bundled with an MBox. How would i hook up the midi >>> keyboard and the mixer/control surface? >>> /Krister >>> >>> 26 jan 2013 kl. 22:34 skrev "Jed Barton" : >>> >>>> Who makes this mixer, what's it called, does it have stuff like transport >>>> controls, pay, stop, etc? >>>> >>>> -----Original Message- >>>> From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On >>>> Behalf >>>> Of Slau Halatyn >>>> Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2013 3:04 PM >>>> To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com >>>> Subject: Re: What's needed to effectively use Pro tools as a blind person? >>>> >>>> And for that matter, I'd stick with the 003 mixer version because it >>>> includes at least their version of a scrub wheel which is also quite >>>> helpful. >>>> >>>> Slau >>>> >>>> On Jan 26, 2013, at 2:03 PM, Poppa Bear wrote: >>>> >>>>> I agree with the control surface thoughts. You can affectivly do things on >>>> the key board, but you cut your time in half, if not by more with a control >>>> surface. Also, I think for the most part if you are on a budget that the >>>> Digidisign 002 or 003 mixers are the most practical root for intry level, >>>> as >>>> a matter of fact I have been in HD studios that are still using 003 mixers. >>>> You can find them from $300 to $500 on Ebay and in some online stores. >>>> Remember though, you want to look for the 002 or 003 mixer, not rack. >>>>> HTH >>>>> - Original Message - From: "Slau Halatyn" >>>>> >>>>> To: >>>>> Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2013 9:45 AM >>>>> Subject: Re: What's needed to effectively use Pro tools as a blind person? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> Hey J. R., >>>>>> >>>>>> Indeed, even if a person isn't working within an attended session, >>>>>> there's always the invisible attendee known as time :) Slau >>>>>> >>>>>> On Jan 26, 2013, at 1:39 PM, J. R. Westmoreland wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> I fully agree with everything you have said. I haven't been in the >>>>>>> situation where I had a client looking over the shoulder but have >>>>>>> been under the time gun. LOL >>>>>>> >>>>>>> J. R. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -Original Message- >>>>>>> From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] >>>>>>> On Behalf Of Slau Halatyn >>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2013 11:33 AM >>>>>>> To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com >>>>>>> Subject: Re: What's needed to effectively use Pro tools as a blind >>>> person? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Krister, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I've been using a Control|24 for about 10 years and have not >>>>>>> followed the control surface market closely for some time. Perhaps >>>>>>> others who have recently researched t
Re: What's needed to effectively use Pro tools as a blind person?
Hi, So, if i get a control surface, the MBox isn't needed at all, right? I looked at the pricing of the Digi003 Factory fader and it was way way over my budget with a 5 figure price tag in Swedish crowns. /Krister 27 jan 2013 kl. 19:31 skrev Slau Halatyn : > In the case of most interfaces, they have MIDI ports built in. In the cases > where there is no MIDI implementation, you'll need some type of USB MIDI > interface like anything from M-Audio. For keyboards, depending on the > controller, they might have a USB interface or MIDI or both. > > Slau > > On Jan 27, 2013, at 5:26 AM, Krister Ekstrom wrote: > >> Hi, >> All this is very interesting info since i'm a beginner to all this. I bought >> myself a PT bundled with an MBox. How would i hook up the midi keyboard and >> the mixer/control surface? >> /Krister >> >> 26 jan 2013 kl. 22:34 skrev "Jed Barton" : >> >>> Who makes this mixer, what's it called, does it have stuff like transport >>> controls, pay, stop, etc? >>> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf >>> Of Slau Halatyn >>> Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2013 3:04 PM >>> To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com >>> Subject: Re: What's needed to effectively use Pro tools as a blind person? >>> >>> And for that matter, I'd stick with the 003 mixer version because it >>> includes at least their version of a scrub wheel which is also quite >>> helpful. >>> >>> Slau >>> >>> On Jan 26, 2013, at 2:03 PM, Poppa Bear wrote: >>> >>>> I agree with the control surface thoughts. You can affectivly do things on >>> the key board, but you cut your time in half, if not by more with a control >>> surface. Also, I think for the most part if you are on a budget that the >>> Digidisign 002 or 003 mixers are the most practical root for intry level, as >>> a matter of fact I have been in HD studios that are still using 003 mixers. >>> You can find them from $300 to $500 on Ebay and in some online stores. >>> Remember though, you want to look for the 002 or 003 mixer, not rack. >>>> HTH >>>> - Original Message - From: "Slau Halatyn" >>>> >>>> To: >>>> Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2013 9:45 AM >>>> Subject: Re: What's needed to effectively use Pro tools as a blind person? >>>> >>>> >>>>> Hey J. R., >>>>> >>>>> Indeed, even if a person isn't working within an attended session, >>>>> there's always the invisible attendee known as time :) Slau >>>>> >>>>> On Jan 26, 2013, at 1:39 PM, J. R. Westmoreland wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> I fully agree with everything you have said. I haven't been in the >>>>>> situation where I had a client looking over the shoulder but have >>>>>> been under the time gun. LOL >>>>>> >>>>>> J. R. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -Original Message- >>>>>> From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] >>>>>> On Behalf Of Slau Halatyn >>>>>> Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2013 11:33 AM >>>>>> To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com >>>>>> Subject: Re: What's needed to effectively use Pro tools as a blind >>> person? >>>>>> >>>>>> Krister, >>>>>> >>>>>> I've been using a Control|24 for about 10 years and have not >>>>>> followed the control surface market closely for some time. Perhaps >>>>>> others who have recently researched this can contribute some >>> suggestions. >>>>>> >>>>>> As far as mixing with only the Pro Tools interface, for a blind >>>>>> user, I'd say it's inefficient. If you're not working with clients >>>>>> and you are not under any time constraint, then it's conceivable but >>>>>> I would never recommend it necessarily. First of all, you're limited >>>>>> to changing or automating one track at a time. I can't imagine >>>>>> working that way. Again, if you're not working with clients sitting >>>>>> in with you during a session, well then it's probably not an issue. >
Re: What's needed to effectively use Pro tools as a blind person?
On Sun, January 27, 2013 5:11 am, Poppa Bear wrote: > Typicly you would run your control surface into your mac via fire wire and > most new midi keyboards are USB, and the keyboards USB would run into a > USB > port on the Mac as well. > - Original Message - > From: "Krister Ekstrom" > To: > Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2013 1:26 AM > Subject: Re: What's needed to effectively use Pro tools as a blind person? > > > Hi, > All this is very interesting info since i'm a beginner to all this. I > bought > myself a PT bundled with an MBox. How would i hook up the midi keyboard > and > the mixer/control surface? > /Krister > > 26 jan 2013 kl. 22:34 skrev "Jed Barton" : > >> Who makes this mixer, what's it called, does it have stuff like >> transport >> controls, pay, stop, etc? >> >> -Original Message- >> From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On >> Behalf >> Of Slau Halatyn >> Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2013 3:04 PM >> To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com >> Subject: Re: What's needed to effectively use Pro tools as a blind >> person? >> >> And for that matter, I'd stick with the 003 mixer version because it >> includes at least their version of a scrub wheel which is also quite >> helpful. >> >> Slau >> >> On Jan 26, 2013, at 2:03 PM, Poppa Bear wrote: >> >>> I agree with the control surface thoughts. You can affectivly do things >>> on >> the key board, but you cut your time in half, if not by more with a >> control >> surface. Also, I think for the most part if you are on a budget that the >> Digidisign 002 or 003 mixers are the most practical root for intry >> level, >> as >> a matter of fact I have been in HD studios that are still using 003 >> mixers. >> You can find them from $300 to $500 on Ebay and in some online stores. >> Remember though, you want to look for the 002 or 003 mixer, not rack. >>> HTH >>> - Original Message - From: "Slau Halatyn" >>> >>> To: >>> Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2013 9:45 AM >>> Subject: Re: What's needed to effectively use Pro tools as a blind >>> person? >>> >>> >>>> Hey J. R., >>>> >>>> Indeed, even if a person isn't working within an attended session, >>>> there's always the invisible attendee known as time :) Slau >>>> >>>> On Jan 26, 2013, at 1:39 PM, J. R. Westmoreland wrote: >>>> >>>>> I fully agree with everything you have said. I haven't been in the >>>>> situation where I had a client looking over the shoulder but have >>>>> been under the time gun. LOL >>>>> >>>>> J. R. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -Original Message- >>>>> From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] >>>>> On Behalf Of Slau Halatyn >>>>> Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2013 11:33 AM >>>>> To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com >>>>> Subject: Re: What's needed to effectively use Pro tools as a blind >> person? >>>>> >>>>> Krister, >>>>> >>>>> I've been using a Control|24 for about 10 years and have not >>>>> followed the control surface market closely for some time. Perhaps >>>>> others who have recently researched this can contribute some >> suggestions. >>>>> >>>>> As far as mixing with only the Pro Tools interface, for a blind >>>>> user, I'd say it's inefficient. If you're not working with clients >>>>> and you are not under any time constraint, then it's conceivable but >>>>> I would never recommend it necessarily. First of all, you're limited >>>>> to changing or automating one track at a time. I can't imagine >>>>> working that way. Again, if you're not working with clients sitting >>>>> in with you during a session, well then it's probably not an issue. >>>>> Regardless, I do prefer the tactile feedback that a moving fader >>>>> gives me. I've used Pro Tools in remote recording situations without >>>>> a surface but that was only for recording and not for any mixing >>>>> whatsoever during the recorded event. Afterwards, back at the studio, >>>>> of >> course, I'm back to the Control|24 and c
Re: What's needed to effectively use Pro tools as a blind person?
In the case of most interfaces, they have MIDI ports built in. In the cases where there is no MIDI implementation, you'll need some type of USB MIDI interface like anything from M-Audio. For keyboards, depending on the controller, they might have a USB interface or MIDI or both. Slau On Jan 27, 2013, at 5:26 AM, Krister Ekstrom wrote: > Hi, > All this is very interesting info since i'm a beginner to all this. I bought > myself a PT bundled with an MBox. How would i hook up the midi keyboard and > the mixer/control surface? > /Krister > > 26 jan 2013 kl. 22:34 skrev "Jed Barton" : > >> Who makes this mixer, what's it called, does it have stuff like transport >> controls, pay, stop, etc? >> >> -Original Message- >> From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf >> Of Slau Halatyn >> Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2013 3:04 PM >> To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com >> Subject: Re: What's needed to effectively use Pro tools as a blind person? >> >> And for that matter, I'd stick with the 003 mixer version because it >> includes at least their version of a scrub wheel which is also quite >> helpful. >> >> Slau >> >> On Jan 26, 2013, at 2:03 PM, Poppa Bear wrote: >> >>> I agree with the control surface thoughts. You can affectivly do things on >> the key board, but you cut your time in half, if not by more with a control >> surface. Also, I think for the most part if you are on a budget that the >> Digidisign 002 or 003 mixers are the most practical root for intry level, as >> a matter of fact I have been in HD studios that are still using 003 mixers. >> You can find them from $300 to $500 on Ebay and in some online stores. >> Remember though, you want to look for the 002 or 003 mixer, not rack. >>> HTH >>> - Original Message - From: "Slau Halatyn" >>> >>> To: >>> Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2013 9:45 AM >>> Subject: Re: What's needed to effectively use Pro tools as a blind person? >>> >>> >>>> Hey J. R., >>>> >>>> Indeed, even if a person isn't working within an attended session, >>>> there's always the invisible attendee known as time :) Slau >>>> >>>> On Jan 26, 2013, at 1:39 PM, J. R. Westmoreland wrote: >>>> >>>>> I fully agree with everything you have said. I haven't been in the >>>>> situation where I had a client looking over the shoulder but have >>>>> been under the time gun. LOL >>>>> >>>>> J. R. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -Original Message- >>>>> From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] >>>>> On Behalf Of Slau Halatyn >>>>> Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2013 11:33 AM >>>>> To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com >>>>> Subject: Re: What's needed to effectively use Pro tools as a blind >> person? >>>>> >>>>> Krister, >>>>> >>>>> I've been using a Control|24 for about 10 years and have not >>>>> followed the control surface market closely for some time. Perhaps >>>>> others who have recently researched this can contribute some >> suggestions. >>>>> >>>>> As far as mixing with only the Pro Tools interface, for a blind >>>>> user, I'd say it's inefficient. If you're not working with clients >>>>> and you are not under any time constraint, then it's conceivable but >>>>> I would never recommend it necessarily. First of all, you're limited >>>>> to changing or automating one track at a time. I can't imagine >>>>> working that way. Again, if you're not working with clients sitting >>>>> in with you during a session, well then it's probably not an issue. >>>>> Regardless, I do prefer the tactile feedback that a moving fader >>>>> gives me. I've used Pro Tools in remote recording situations without >>>>> a surface but that was only for recording and not for any mixing >>>>> whatsoever during the recorded event. Afterwards, back at the studio, of >> course, I'm back to the Control|24 and can't imagine working any other way. >>>>> >>>>> Slau >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Jan 26, 2013, at 12:18 PM, Krister Ekstrom wrot
Re: What's needed to effectively use Pro tools as a blind person?
Typicly you would run your control surface into your mac via fire wire and most new midi keyboards are USB, and the keyboards USB would run into a USB port on the Mac as well. - Original Message - From: "Krister Ekstrom" To: Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2013 1:26 AM Subject: Re: What's needed to effectively use Pro tools as a blind person? Hi, All this is very interesting info since i'm a beginner to all this. I bought myself a PT bundled with an MBox. How would i hook up the midi keyboard and the mixer/control surface? /Krister 26 jan 2013 kl. 22:34 skrev "Jed Barton" : Who makes this mixer, what's it called, does it have stuff like transport controls, pay, stop, etc? -Original Message- From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Slau Halatyn Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2013 3:04 PM To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: What's needed to effectively use Pro tools as a blind person? And for that matter, I'd stick with the 003 mixer version because it includes at least their version of a scrub wheel which is also quite helpful. Slau On Jan 26, 2013, at 2:03 PM, Poppa Bear wrote: I agree with the control surface thoughts. You can affectivly do things on the key board, but you cut your time in half, if not by more with a control surface. Also, I think for the most part if you are on a budget that the Digidisign 002 or 003 mixers are the most practical root for intry level, as a matter of fact I have been in HD studios that are still using 003 mixers. You can find them from $300 to $500 on Ebay and in some online stores. Remember though, you want to look for the 002 or 003 mixer, not rack. HTH - Original Message - From: "Slau Halatyn" To: Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2013 9:45 AM Subject: Re: What's needed to effectively use Pro tools as a blind person? Hey J. R., Indeed, even if a person isn't working within an attended session, there's always the invisible attendee known as time :) Slau On Jan 26, 2013, at 1:39 PM, J. R. Westmoreland wrote: I fully agree with everything you have said. I haven't been in the situation where I had a client looking over the shoulder but have been under the time gun. LOL J. R. -Original Message- From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Slau Halatyn Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2013 11:33 AM To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: What's needed to effectively use Pro tools as a blind person? Krister, I've been using a Control|24 for about 10 years and have not followed the control surface market closely for some time. Perhaps others who have recently researched this can contribute some suggestions. As far as mixing with only the Pro Tools interface, for a blind user, I'd say it's inefficient. If you're not working with clients and you are not under any time constraint, then it's conceivable but I would never recommend it necessarily. First of all, you're limited to changing or automating one track at a time. I can't imagine working that way. Again, if you're not working with clients sitting in with you during a session, well then it's probably not an issue. Regardless, I do prefer the tactile feedback that a moving fader gives me. I've used Pro Tools in remote recording situations without a surface but that was only for recording and not for any mixing whatsoever during the recorded event. Afterwards, back at the studio, of course, I'm back to the Control|24 and can't imagine working any other way. Slau On Jan 26, 2013, at 12:18 PM, Krister Ekstrom wrote: Hi Slau, Woops this proves to tax hard on my tight budget, but i guess you'll have to live with that. smiles. Question is of course then what a good control surface would be, if need be and considering that i'm on somewhat of a tight budget, what would you say about using only the computer to mix things, record and so on, would that at all be practical? /Krister 26 jan 2013 kl. 17:56 skrev Slau Halatyn : Hi Krister, A MIDI controller won't be anywhere near as effective as a control surface. If you plan to do any mixing whatsoever, it's not feasible to try doing automation with one track at time. If you'll need to mix several tracks, a control surface is indispensable. You'll be able to work far more efficiently using a surface to quickly mute, unmute, solo tracks, quickly change multiple track volumes, etc. Slau On Jan 26, 2013, at 8:34 AM, Mike LockettMike Lockett wrote: Hey Krister il dropbox you Kevins tt. Now to your first question, maybe you could let us know your intent for protools. Krister Ekstrom wrote: Hi, Here's the next newbie question: I understand that an Apple keyboard with numeric pad is mor or less required to use PT effectively as a blind person, but what m
Re: What's needed to effectively use Pro tools as a blind person?
Hi, All this is very interesting info since i'm a beginner to all this. I bought myself a PT bundled with an MBox. How would i hook up the midi keyboard and the mixer/control surface? /Krister 26 jan 2013 kl. 22:34 skrev "Jed Barton" : > Who makes this mixer, what's it called, does it have stuff like transport > controls, pay, stop, etc? > > -Original Message- > From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf > Of Slau Halatyn > Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2013 3:04 PM > To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: What's needed to effectively use Pro tools as a blind person? > > And for that matter, I'd stick with the 003 mixer version because it > includes at least their version of a scrub wheel which is also quite > helpful. > > Slau > > On Jan 26, 2013, at 2:03 PM, Poppa Bear wrote: > >> I agree with the control surface thoughts. You can affectivly do things on > the key board, but you cut your time in half, if not by more with a control > surface. Also, I think for the most part if you are on a budget that the > Digidisign 002 or 003 mixers are the most practical root for intry level, as > a matter of fact I have been in HD studios that are still using 003 mixers. > You can find them from $300 to $500 on Ebay and in some online stores. > Remember though, you want to look for the 002 or 003 mixer, not rack. >> HTH >> ----- Original Message - From: "Slau Halatyn" >> >> To: >> Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2013 9:45 AM >> Subject: Re: What's needed to effectively use Pro tools as a blind person? >> >> >>> Hey J. R., >>> >>> Indeed, even if a person isn't working within an attended session, >>> there's always the invisible attendee known as time :) Slau >>> >>> On Jan 26, 2013, at 1:39 PM, J. R. Westmoreland wrote: >>> >>>> I fully agree with everything you have said. I haven't been in the >>>> situation where I had a client looking over the shoulder but have >>>> been under the time gun. LOL >>>> >>>> J. R. >>>> >>>> >>>> -Original Message- >>>> From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] >>>> On Behalf Of Slau Halatyn >>>> Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2013 11:33 AM >>>> To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com >>>> Subject: Re: What's needed to effectively use Pro tools as a blind > person? >>>> >>>> Krister, >>>> >>>> I've been using a Control|24 for about 10 years and have not >>>> followed the control surface market closely for some time. Perhaps >>>> others who have recently researched this can contribute some > suggestions. >>>> >>>> As far as mixing with only the Pro Tools interface, for a blind >>>> user, I'd say it's inefficient. If you're not working with clients >>>> and you are not under any time constraint, then it's conceivable but >>>> I would never recommend it necessarily. First of all, you're limited >>>> to changing or automating one track at a time. I can't imagine >>>> working that way. Again, if you're not working with clients sitting >>>> in with you during a session, well then it's probably not an issue. >>>> Regardless, I do prefer the tactile feedback that a moving fader >>>> gives me. I've used Pro Tools in remote recording situations without >>>> a surface but that was only for recording and not for any mixing >>>> whatsoever during the recorded event. Afterwards, back at the studio, of > course, I'm back to the Control|24 and can't imagine working any other way. >>>> >>>> Slau >>>> >>>> >>>> On Jan 26, 2013, at 12:18 PM, Krister Ekstrom wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi Slau, >>>>> Woops this proves to tax hard on my tight budget, but i guess >>>>> you'll have >>>> to live with that. smiles. >>>>> Question is of course then what a good control surface would be, if >>>>> need >>>> be and considering that i'm on somewhat of a tight budget, what >>>> would you say about using only the computer to mix things, record >>>> and so on, would that at all be practical? >>>>> /Krister >>>>> 26 jan 2013 kl. 17:56 skrev Slau Halatyn : >>>>> >>>>>> Hi
RE: What's needed to effectively use Pro tools as a blind person?
Who makes this mixer, what's it called, does it have stuff like transport controls, pay, stop, etc? -Original Message- From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Slau Halatyn Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2013 3:04 PM To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: What's needed to effectively use Pro tools as a blind person? And for that matter, I'd stick with the 003 mixer version because it includes at least their version of a scrub wheel which is also quite helpful. Slau On Jan 26, 2013, at 2:03 PM, Poppa Bear wrote: > I agree with the control surface thoughts. You can affectivly do things on the key board, but you cut your time in half, if not by more with a control surface. Also, I think for the most part if you are on a budget that the Digidisign 002 or 003 mixers are the most practical root for intry level, as a matter of fact I have been in HD studios that are still using 003 mixers. You can find them from $300 to $500 on Ebay and in some online stores. Remember though, you want to look for the 002 or 003 mixer, not rack. > HTH > - Original Message - From: "Slau Halatyn" > > To: > Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2013 9:45 AM > Subject: Re: What's needed to effectively use Pro tools as a blind person? > > >> Hey J. R., >> >> Indeed, even if a person isn't working within an attended session, >> there's always the invisible attendee known as time :) Slau >> >> On Jan 26, 2013, at 1:39 PM, J. R. Westmoreland wrote: >> >>> I fully agree with everything you have said. I haven't been in the >>> situation where I had a client looking over the shoulder but have >>> been under the time gun. LOL >>> >>> J. R. >>> >>> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] >>> On Behalf Of Slau Halatyn >>> Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2013 11:33 AM >>> To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com >>> Subject: Re: What's needed to effectively use Pro tools as a blind person? >>> >>> Krister, >>> >>> I've been using a Control|24 for about 10 years and have not >>> followed the control surface market closely for some time. Perhaps >>> others who have recently researched this can contribute some suggestions. >>> >>> As far as mixing with only the Pro Tools interface, for a blind >>> user, I'd say it's inefficient. If you're not working with clients >>> and you are not under any time constraint, then it's conceivable but >>> I would never recommend it necessarily. First of all, you're limited >>> to changing or automating one track at a time. I can't imagine >>> working that way. Again, if you're not working with clients sitting >>> in with you during a session, well then it's probably not an issue. >>> Regardless, I do prefer the tactile feedback that a moving fader >>> gives me. I've used Pro Tools in remote recording situations without >>> a surface but that was only for recording and not for any mixing >>> whatsoever during the recorded event. Afterwards, back at the studio, of course, I'm back to the Control|24 and can't imagine working any other way. >>> >>> Slau >>> >>> >>> On Jan 26, 2013, at 12:18 PM, Krister Ekstrom wrote: >>> >>>> Hi Slau, >>>> Woops this proves to tax hard on my tight budget, but i guess >>>> you'll have >>> to live with that. smiles. >>>> Question is of course then what a good control surface would be, if >>>> need >>> be and considering that i'm on somewhat of a tight budget, what >>> would you say about using only the computer to mix things, record >>> and so on, would that at all be practical? >>>> /Krister >>>> 26 jan 2013 kl. 17:56 skrev Slau Halatyn : >>>> >>>>> Hi Krister, >>>>> >>>>> A MIDI controller won't be anywhere near as effective as a control >>> surface. If you plan to do any mixing whatsoever, it's not feasible >>> to try doing automation with one track at time. If you'll need to >>> mix several tracks, a control surface is indispensable. You'll be >>> able to work far more efficiently using a surface to quickly mute, >>> unmute, solo tracks, quickly change multiple track volumes, etc. >>>>> >>>>> Slau >>>>> >>>>> On Jan 26, 2013, at 8:
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That is true. I have the command-8 and it doesn't have the scrub wheel. In spite of all that it is still a very nice surface. -Original Message- From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Slau Halatyn Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2013 1:04 PM To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: What's needed to effectively use Pro tools as a blind person? And for that matter, I'd stick with the 003 mixer version because it includes at least their version of a scrub wheel which is also quite helpful. Slau On Jan 26, 2013, at 2:03 PM, Poppa Bear wrote: > I agree with the control surface thoughts. You can affectivly do things on the key board, but you cut your time in half, if not by more with a control surface. Also, I think for the most part if you are on a budget that the Digidisign 002 or 003 mixers are the most practical root for intry level, as a matter of fact I have been in HD studios that are still using 003 mixers. You can find them from $300 to $500 on Ebay and in some online stores. Remember though, you want to look for the 002 or 003 mixer, not rack. > HTH > - Original Message - From: "Slau Halatyn" > > To: > Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2013 9:45 AM > Subject: Re: What's needed to effectively use Pro tools as a blind person? > > >> Hey J. R., >> >> Indeed, even if a person isn't working within an attended session, >> there's always the invisible attendee known as time :) Slau >> >> On Jan 26, 2013, at 1:39 PM, J. R. Westmoreland wrote: >> >>> I fully agree with everything you have said. I haven't been in the >>> situation where I had a client looking over the shoulder but have >>> been under the time gun. LOL >>> >>> J. R. >>> >>> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] >>> On Behalf Of Slau Halatyn >>> Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2013 11:33 AM >>> To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com >>> Subject: Re: What's needed to effectively use Pro tools as a blind person? >>> >>> Krister, >>> >>> I've been using a Control|24 for about 10 years and have not >>> followed the control surface market closely for some time. Perhaps >>> others who have recently researched this can contribute some suggestions. >>> >>> As far as mixing with only the Pro Tools interface, for a blind >>> user, I'd say it's inefficient. If you're not working with clients >>> and you are not under any time constraint, then it's conceivable but >>> I would never recommend it necessarily. First of all, you're limited >>> to changing or automating one track at a time. I can't imagine >>> working that way. Again, if you're not working with clients sitting >>> in with you during a session, well then it's probably not an issue. >>> Regardless, I do prefer the tactile feedback that a moving fader >>> gives me. I've used Pro Tools in remote recording situations without >>> a surface but that was only for recording and not for any mixing >>> whatsoever during the recorded event. Afterwards, back at the studio, of course, I'm back to the Control|24 and can't imagine working any other way. >>> >>> Slau >>> >>> >>> On Jan 26, 2013, at 12:18 PM, Krister Ekstrom wrote: >>> >>>> Hi Slau, >>>> Woops this proves to tax hard on my tight budget, but i guess >>>> you'll have >>> to live with that. smiles. >>>> Question is of course then what a good control surface would be, if >>>> need >>> be and considering that i'm on somewhat of a tight budget, what >>> would you say about using only the computer to mix things, record >>> and so on, would that at all be practical? >>>> /Krister >>>> 26 jan 2013 kl. 17:56 skrev Slau Halatyn : >>>> >>>>> Hi Krister, >>>>> >>>>> A MIDI controller won't be anywhere near as effective as a control >>> surface. If you plan to do any mixing whatsoever, it's not feasible >>> to try doing automation with one track at time. If you'll need to >>> mix several tracks, a control surface is indispensable. You'll be >>> able to work far more efficiently using a surface to quickly mute, >>> unmute, solo tracks, quickly change multiple track volumes, etc. >>>>> >>>>> Slau >>>>> >>>&g
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And for that matter, I'd stick with the 003 mixer version because it includes at least their version of a scrub wheel which is also quite helpful. Slau On Jan 26, 2013, at 2:03 PM, Poppa Bear wrote: > I agree with the control surface thoughts. You can affectivly do things on > the key board, but you cut your time in half, if not by more with a control > surface. Also, I think for the most part if you are on a budget that the > Digidisign 002 or 003 mixers are the most practical root for intry level, as > a matter of fact I have been in HD studios that are still using 003 mixers. > You can find them from $300 to $500 on Ebay and in some online stores. > Remember though, you want to look for the 002 or 003 mixer, not rack. > HTH > - Original Message - From: "Slau Halatyn" > To: > Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2013 9:45 AM > Subject: Re: What's needed to effectively use Pro tools as a blind person? > > >> Hey J. R., >> >> Indeed, even if a person isn't working within an attended session, there's >> always the invisible attendee known as time :) >> Slau >> >> On Jan 26, 2013, at 1:39 PM, J. R. Westmoreland wrote: >> >>> I fully agree with everything you have said. I haven't been in the situation >>> where I had a client looking over the shoulder but have been under the time >>> gun. LOL >>> >>> J. R. >>> >>> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf >>> Of Slau Halatyn >>> Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2013 11:33 AM >>> To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com >>> Subject: Re: What's needed to effectively use Pro tools as a blind person? >>> >>> Krister, >>> >>> I've been using a Control|24 for about 10 years and have not followed the >>> control surface market closely for some time. Perhaps others who have >>> recently researched this can contribute some suggestions. >>> >>> As far as mixing with only the Pro Tools interface, for a blind user, I'd >>> say it's inefficient. If you're not working with clients and you are not >>> under any time constraint, then it's conceivable but I would never recommend >>> it necessarily. First of all, you're limited to changing or automating one >>> track at a time. I can't imagine working that way. Again, if you're not >>> working with clients sitting in with you during a session, well then it's >>> probably not an issue. Regardless, I do prefer the tactile feedback that a >>> moving fader gives me. I've used Pro Tools in remote recording situations >>> without a surface but that was only for recording and not for any mixing >>> whatsoever during the recorded event. Afterwards, back at the studio, of >>> course, I'm back to the Control|24 and can't imagine working any other way. >>> >>> Slau >>> >>> >>> On Jan 26, 2013, at 12:18 PM, Krister Ekstrom wrote: >>> >>>> Hi Slau, >>>> Woops this proves to tax hard on my tight budget, but i guess you'll have >>> to live with that. smiles. >>>> Question is of course then what a good control surface would be, if need >>> be and considering that i'm on somewhat of a tight budget, what would you >>> say about using only the computer to mix things, record and so on, would >>> that at all be practical? >>>> /Krister >>>> 26 jan 2013 kl. 17:56 skrev Slau Halatyn : >>>> >>>>> Hi Krister, >>>>> >>>>> A MIDI controller won't be anywhere near as effective as a control >>> surface. If you plan to do any mixing whatsoever, it's not feasible to try >>> doing automation with one track at time. If you'll need to mix several >>> tracks, a control surface is indispensable. You'll be able to work far more >>> efficiently using a surface to quickly mute, unmute, solo tracks, quickly >>> change multiple track volumes, etc. >>>>> >>>>> Slau >>>>> >>>>> On Jan 26, 2013, at 8:34 AM, Mike LockettMike Lockett wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hey Krister il dropbox you Kevins tt. >>>>>> Now to your first question, maybe you could let us know your intent for >>> protools. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Krister Ekstrom wrote: >>>>>> Hi, >>>>>> Here's the next newbie question: I understand that an Apple keyboard >>> with numeric pad is mor or less required to use PT effectively as a blind >>> person, but what more is required to be effectively using PT? Can a midi >>> keyboard act as a control surface or do you require that too if you get a >>> keyboard that has knobs and sliders on it? I'm still trying to get the hang >>> of the whole thing so please pardon me for all the silly questions. Also >>> does anyone happen to have the Tutorial around that Kevin Reeves did? I >>> googled for it and got a link but it didn't work. I got a "the requested url >>> can't be found on this server" message. >>>>>> Thanks for any answers. >>>>>> /Krister >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> >>> >>> >> >> -- >> >> > > -- > > --
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Hey guys, Since I am getting protools, perhaps I should get the control surface along with it. Any suggestions on what to get? I might as well do this out of the gate. Sincerest Regards, Jed -Original Message- From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Slau Halatyn Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2013 1:46 PM To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: What's needed to effectively use Pro tools as a blind person? Hey J. R., Indeed, even if a person isn't working within an attended session, there's always the invisible attendee known as time :) Slau On Jan 26, 2013, at 1:39 PM, J. R. Westmoreland wrote: > I fully agree with everything you have said. I haven't been in the > situation where I had a client looking over the shoulder but have been > under the time gun. LOL > > J. R. > > > -Original Message- > From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On > Behalf Of Slau Halatyn > Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2013 11:33 AM > To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: What's needed to effectively use Pro tools as a blind person? > > Krister, > > I've been using a Control|24 for about 10 years and have not followed > the control surface market closely for some time. Perhaps others who > have recently researched this can contribute some suggestions. > > As far as mixing with only the Pro Tools interface, for a blind user, > I'd say it's inefficient. If you're not working with clients and you > are not under any time constraint, then it's conceivable but I would > never recommend it necessarily. First of all, you're limited to > changing or automating one track at a time. I can't imagine working > that way. Again, if you're not working with clients sitting in with > you during a session, well then it's probably not an issue. > Regardless, I do prefer the tactile feedback that a moving fader gives > me. I've used Pro Tools in remote recording situations without a > surface but that was only for recording and not for any mixing > whatsoever during the recorded event. Afterwards, back at the studio, of course, I'm back to the Control|24 and can't imagine working any other way. > > Slau > > > On Jan 26, 2013, at 12:18 PM, Krister Ekstrom wrote: > >> Hi Slau, >> Woops this proves to tax hard on my tight budget, but i guess you'll >> have > to live with that. smiles. >> Question is of course then what a good control surface would be, if >> need > be and considering that i'm on somewhat of a tight budget, what would > you say about using only the computer to mix things, record and so on, > would that at all be practical? >> /Krister >> 26 jan 2013 kl. 17:56 skrev Slau Halatyn : >> >>> Hi Krister, >>> >>> A MIDI controller won't be anywhere near as effective as a control > surface. If you plan to do any mixing whatsoever, it's not feasible to > try doing automation with one track at time. If you'll need to mix > several tracks, a control surface is indispensable. You'll be able to > work far more efficiently using a surface to quickly mute, unmute, > solo tracks, quickly change multiple track volumes, etc. >>> >>> Slau >>> >>> On Jan 26, 2013, at 8:34 AM, Mike LockettMike Lockett wrote: >>> >>>> Hey Krister il dropbox you Kevins tt. >>>> Now to your first question, maybe you could let us know your intent >>>> for > protools. >>>> >>>> >>>> Krister Ekstrom wrote: >>>> Hi, >>>> Here's the next newbie question: I understand that an Apple >>>> keyboard > with numeric pad is mor or less required to use PT effectively as a > blind person, but what more is required to be effectively using PT? > Can a midi keyboard act as a control surface or do you require that > too if you get a keyboard that has knobs and sliders on it? I'm still > trying to get the hang of the whole thing so please pardon me for all > the silly questions. Also does anyone happen to have the Tutorial > around that Kevin Reeves did? I googled for it and got a link but it > didn't work. I got a "the requested url can't be found on this server" message. >>>> Thanks for any answers. >>>> /Krister >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> >>> >> > > -- > > > --
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I agree with the control surface thoughts. You can affectivly do things on the key board, but you cut your time in half, if not by more with a control surface. Also, I think for the most part if you are on a budget that the Digidisign 002 or 003 mixers are the most practical root for intry level, as a matter of fact I have been in HD studios that are still using 003 mixers. You can find them from $300 to $500 on Ebay and in some online stores. Remember though, you want to look for the 002 or 003 mixer, not rack. HTH - Original Message - From: "Slau Halatyn" To: Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2013 9:45 AM Subject: Re: What's needed to effectively use Pro tools as a blind person? Hey J. R., Indeed, even if a person isn't working within an attended session, there's always the invisible attendee known as time :) Slau On Jan 26, 2013, at 1:39 PM, J. R. Westmoreland wrote: I fully agree with everything you have said. I haven't been in the situation where I had a client looking over the shoulder but have been under the time gun. LOL J. R. -Original Message- From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Slau Halatyn Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2013 11:33 AM To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: What's needed to effectively use Pro tools as a blind person? Krister, I've been using a Control|24 for about 10 years and have not followed the control surface market closely for some time. Perhaps others who have recently researched this can contribute some suggestions. As far as mixing with only the Pro Tools interface, for a blind user, I'd say it's inefficient. If you're not working with clients and you are not under any time constraint, then it's conceivable but I would never recommend it necessarily. First of all, you're limited to changing or automating one track at a time. I can't imagine working that way. Again, if you're not working with clients sitting in with you during a session, well then it's probably not an issue. Regardless, I do prefer the tactile feedback that a moving fader gives me. I've used Pro Tools in remote recording situations without a surface but that was only for recording and not for any mixing whatsoever during the recorded event. Afterwards, back at the studio, of course, I'm back to the Control|24 and can't imagine working any other way. Slau On Jan 26, 2013, at 12:18 PM, Krister Ekstrom wrote: Hi Slau, Woops this proves to tax hard on my tight budget, but i guess you'll have to live with that. smiles. Question is of course then what a good control surface would be, if need be and considering that i'm on somewhat of a tight budget, what would you say about using only the computer to mix things, record and so on, would that at all be practical? /Krister 26 jan 2013 kl. 17:56 skrev Slau Halatyn : Hi Krister, A MIDI controller won't be anywhere near as effective as a control surface. If you plan to do any mixing whatsoever, it's not feasible to try doing automation with one track at time. If you'll need to mix several tracks, a control surface is indispensable. You'll be able to work far more efficiently using a surface to quickly mute, unmute, solo tracks, quickly change multiple track volumes, etc. Slau On Jan 26, 2013, at 8:34 AM, Mike LockettMike Lockett wrote: Hey Krister il dropbox you Kevins tt. Now to your first question, maybe you could let us know your intent for protools. Krister Ekstrom wrote: Hi, Here's the next newbie question: I understand that an Apple keyboard with numeric pad is mor or less required to use PT effectively as a blind person, but what more is required to be effectively using PT? Can a midi keyboard act as a control surface or do you require that too if you get a keyboard that has knobs and sliders on it? I'm still trying to get the hang of the whole thing so please pardon me for all the silly questions. Also does anyone happen to have the Tutorial around that Kevin Reeves did? I googled for it and got a link but it didn't work. I got a "the requested url can't be found on this server" message. Thanks for any answers. /Krister -- Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. -- -- -- -- --
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Hey J. R., Indeed, even if a person isn't working within an attended session, there's always the invisible attendee known as time :) Slau On Jan 26, 2013, at 1:39 PM, J. R. Westmoreland wrote: > I fully agree with everything you have said. I haven't been in the situation > where I had a client looking over the shoulder but have been under the time > gun. LOL > > J. R. > > > -Original Message- > From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf > Of Slau Halatyn > Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2013 11:33 AM > To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: What's needed to effectively use Pro tools as a blind person? > > Krister, > > I've been using a Control|24 for about 10 years and have not followed the > control surface market closely for some time. Perhaps others who have > recently researched this can contribute some suggestions. > > As far as mixing with only the Pro Tools interface, for a blind user, I'd > say it's inefficient. If you're not working with clients and you are not > under any time constraint, then it's conceivable but I would never recommend > it necessarily. First of all, you're limited to changing or automating one > track at a time. I can't imagine working that way. Again, if you're not > working with clients sitting in with you during a session, well then it's > probably not an issue. Regardless, I do prefer the tactile feedback that a > moving fader gives me. I've used Pro Tools in remote recording situations > without a surface but that was only for recording and not for any mixing > whatsoever during the recorded event. Afterwards, back at the studio, of > course, I'm back to the Control|24 and can't imagine working any other way. > > Slau > > > On Jan 26, 2013, at 12:18 PM, Krister Ekstrom wrote: > >> Hi Slau, >> Woops this proves to tax hard on my tight budget, but i guess you'll have > to live with that. smiles. >> Question is of course then what a good control surface would be, if need > be and considering that i'm on somewhat of a tight budget, what would you > say about using only the computer to mix things, record and so on, would > that at all be practical? >> /Krister >> 26 jan 2013 kl. 17:56 skrev Slau Halatyn : >> >>> Hi Krister, >>> >>> A MIDI controller won't be anywhere near as effective as a control > surface. If you plan to do any mixing whatsoever, it's not feasible to try > doing automation with one track at time. If you'll need to mix several > tracks, a control surface is indispensable. You'll be able to work far more > efficiently using a surface to quickly mute, unmute, solo tracks, quickly > change multiple track volumes, etc. >>> >>> Slau >>> >>> On Jan 26, 2013, at 8:34 AM, Mike LockettMike Lockett wrote: >>> >>>> Hey Krister il dropbox you Kevins tt. >>>> Now to your first question, maybe you could let us know your intent for > protools. >>>> >>>> >>>> Krister Ekstrom wrote: >>>> Hi, >>>> Here's the next newbie question: I understand that an Apple keyboard > with numeric pad is mor or less required to use PT effectively as a blind > person, but what more is required to be effectively using PT? Can a midi > keyboard act as a control surface or do you require that too if you get a > keyboard that has knobs and sliders on it? I'm still trying to get the hang > of the whole thing so please pardon me for all the silly questions. Also > does anyone happen to have the Tutorial around that Kevin Reeves did? I > googled for it and got a link but it didn't work. I got a "the requested url > can't be found on this server" message. >>>> Thanks for any answers. >>>> /Krister >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> >>> >> > > -- > > > --
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I fully agree with everything you have said. I haven't been in the situation where I had a client looking over the shoulder but have been under the time gun. LOL J. R. -Original Message- From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Slau Halatyn Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2013 11:33 AM To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: What's needed to effectively use Pro tools as a blind person? Krister, I've been using a Control|24 for about 10 years and have not followed the control surface market closely for some time. Perhaps others who have recently researched this can contribute some suggestions. As far as mixing with only the Pro Tools interface, for a blind user, I'd say it's inefficient. If you're not working with clients and you are not under any time constraint, then it's conceivable but I would never recommend it necessarily. First of all, you're limited to changing or automating one track at a time. I can't imagine working that way. Again, if you're not working with clients sitting in with you during a session, well then it's probably not an issue. Regardless, I do prefer the tactile feedback that a moving fader gives me. I've used Pro Tools in remote recording situations without a surface but that was only for recording and not for any mixing whatsoever during the recorded event. Afterwards, back at the studio, of course, I'm back to the Control|24 and can't imagine working any other way. Slau On Jan 26, 2013, at 12:18 PM, Krister Ekstrom wrote: > Hi Slau, > Woops this proves to tax hard on my tight budget, but i guess you'll have to live with that. smiles. > Question is of course then what a good control surface would be, if need be and considering that i'm on somewhat of a tight budget, what would you say about using only the computer to mix things, record and so on, would that at all be practical? > /Krister > 26 jan 2013 kl. 17:56 skrev Slau Halatyn : > >> Hi Krister, >> >> A MIDI controller won't be anywhere near as effective as a control surface. If you plan to do any mixing whatsoever, it's not feasible to try doing automation with one track at time. If you'll need to mix several tracks, a control surface is indispensable. You'll be able to work far more efficiently using a surface to quickly mute, unmute, solo tracks, quickly change multiple track volumes, etc. >> >> Slau >> >> On Jan 26, 2013, at 8:34 AM, Mike LockettMike Lockett wrote: >> >>> Hey Krister il dropbox you Kevins tt. >>> Now to your first question, maybe you could let us know your intent for protools. >>> >>> >>> Krister Ekstrom wrote: >>> Hi, >>> Here's the next newbie question: I understand that an Apple keyboard with numeric pad is mor or less required to use PT effectively as a blind person, but what more is required to be effectively using PT? Can a midi keyboard act as a control surface or do you require that too if you get a keyboard that has knobs and sliders on it? I'm still trying to get the hang of the whole thing so please pardon me for all the silly questions. Also does anyone happen to have the Tutorial around that Kevin Reeves did? I googled for it and got a link but it didn't work. I got a "the requested url can't be found on this server" message. >>> Thanks for any answers. >>> /Krister >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. >>> >>> -- >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> >> > --
Re: What's needed to effectively use Pro tools as a blind person?
Krister, I've been using a Control|24 for about 10 years and have not followed the control surface market closely for some time. Perhaps others who have recently researched this can contribute some suggestions. As far as mixing with only the Pro Tools interface, for a blind user, I'd say it's inefficient. If you're not working with clients and you are not under any time constraint, then it's conceivable but I would never recommend it necessarily. First of all, you're limited to changing or automating one track at a time. I can't imagine working that way. Again, if you're not working with clients sitting in with you during a session, well then it's probably not an issue. Regardless, I do prefer the tactile feedback that a moving fader gives me. I've used Pro Tools in remote recording situations without a surface but that was only for recording and not for any mixing whatsoever during the recorded event. Afterwards, back at the studio, of course, I'm back to the Control|24 and can't imagine working any other way. Slau On Jan 26, 2013, at 12:18 PM, Krister Ekstrom wrote: > Hi Slau, > Woops this proves to tax hard on my tight budget, but i guess you'll have to > live with that. smiles. > Question is of course then what a good control surface would be, if need be > and considering that i'm on somewhat of a tight budget, what would you say > about using only the computer to mix things, record and so on, would that at > all be practical? > /Krister > 26 jan 2013 kl. 17:56 skrev Slau Halatyn : > >> Hi Krister, >> >> A MIDI controller won't be anywhere near as effective as a control surface. >> If you plan to do any mixing whatsoever, it's not feasible to try doing >> automation with one track at time. If you'll need to mix several tracks, a >> control surface is indispensable. You'll be able to work far more >> efficiently using a surface to quickly mute, unmute, solo tracks, quickly >> change multiple track volumes, etc. >> >> Slau >> >> On Jan 26, 2013, at 8:34 AM, Mike LockettMike Lockett wrote: >> >>> Hey Krister il dropbox you Kevins tt. >>> Now to your first question, maybe you could let us know your intent for >>> protools. >>> >>> >>> Krister Ekstrom wrote: >>> Hi, >>> Here's the next newbie question: I understand that an Apple keyboard with >>> numeric pad is mor or less required to use PT effectively as a blind >>> person, but what more is required to be effectively using PT? Can a midi >>> keyboard act as a control surface or do you require that too if you get a >>> keyboard that has knobs and sliders on it? I'm still trying to get the hang >>> of the whole thing so please pardon me for all the silly questions. Also >>> does anyone happen to have the Tutorial around that Kevin Reeves did? I >>> googled for it and got a link but it didn't work. I got a "the requested >>> url can't be found on this server" message. >>> Thanks for any answers. >>> /Krister >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. >>> >>> -- >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> >> > --
Re: What's needed to effectively use Pro tools as a blind person?
Hi Slau, Woops this proves to tax hard on my tight budget, but i guess you'll have to live with that. smiles. Question is of course then what a good control surface would be, if need be and considering that i'm on somewhat of a tight budget, what would you say about using only the computer to mix things, record and so on, would that at all be practical? /Krister 26 jan 2013 kl. 17:56 skrev Slau Halatyn : > Hi Krister, > > A MIDI controller won't be anywhere near as effective as a control surface. > If you plan to do any mixing whatsoever, it's not feasible to try doing > automation with one track at time. If you'll need to mix several tracks, a > control surface is indispensable. You'll be able to work far more efficiently > using a surface to quickly mute, unmute, solo tracks, quickly change multiple > track volumes, etc. > > Slau > > On Jan 26, 2013, at 8:34 AM, Mike LockettMike Lockett wrote: > >> Hey Krister il dropbox you Kevins tt. >> Now to your first question, maybe you could let us know your intent for >> protools. >> >> >> Krister Ekstrom wrote: >> Hi, >> Here's the next newbie question: I understand that an Apple keyboard with >> numeric pad is mor or less required to use PT effectively as a blind person, >> but what more is required to be effectively using PT? Can a midi keyboard >> act as a control surface or do you require that too if you get a keyboard >> that has knobs and sliders on it? I'm still trying to get the hang of the >> whole thing so please pardon me for all the silly questions. Also does >> anyone happen to have the Tutorial around that Kevin Reeves did? I googled >> for it and got a link but it didn't work. I got a "the requested url can't >> be found on this server" message. >> Thanks for any answers. >> /Krister >> >> >> -- >> Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. >> >> -- >> >> > > > -- > >
Re: What's needed to effectively use Pro tools as a blind person?
Hi Krister, A MIDI controller won't be anywhere near as effective as a control surface. If you plan to do any mixing whatsoever, it's not feasible to try doing automation with one track at time. If you'll need to mix several tracks, a control surface is indispensable. You'll be able to work far more efficiently using a surface to quickly mute, unmute, solo tracks, quickly change multiple track volumes, etc. Slau On Jan 26, 2013, at 8:34 AM, Mike LockettMike Lockett wrote: > Hey Krister il dropbox you Kevins tt. > Now to your first question, maybe you could let us know your intent for > protools. > > > Krister Ekstrom wrote: > Hi, > Here's the next newbie question: I understand that an Apple keyboard with > numeric pad is mor or less required to use PT effectively as a blind person, > but what more is required to be effectively using PT? Can a midi keyboard act > as a control surface or do you require that too if you get a keyboard that > has knobs and sliders on it? I'm still trying to get the hang of the whole > thing so please pardon me for all the silly questions. Also does anyone > happen to have the Tutorial around that Kevin Reeves did? I googled for it > and got a link but it didn't work. I got a "the requested url can't be found > on this server" message. > Thanks for any answers. > /Krister > > > -- > Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. > > -- > > --
Re: What's needed to effectively use Pro tools as a blind person?
Hey Krister il dropbox you Kevins tt. Now to your first question, maybe you could let us know your intent for protools. Krister Ekstrom wrote: >Hi, >Here's the next newbie question: I understand that an Apple keyboard >with numeric pad is mor or less required to use PT effectively as a >blind person, but what more is required to be effectively using PT? Can >a midi keyboard act as a control surface or do you require that too if >you get a keyboard that has knobs and sliders on it? I'm still trying >to get the hang of the whole thing so please pardon me for all the >silly questions. Also does anyone happen to have the Tutorial around >that Kevin Reeves did? I googled for it and got a link but it didn't >work. I got a "the requested url can't be found on this server" >message. >Thanks for any answers. >/Krister -- Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. --
What's needed to effectively use Pro tools as a blind person?
Hi, Here's the next newbie question: I understand that an Apple keyboard with numeric pad is mor or less required to use PT effectively as a blind person, but what more is required to be effectively using PT? Can a midi keyboard act as a control surface or do you require that too if you get a keyboard that has knobs and sliders on it? I'm still trying to get the hang of the whole thing so please pardon me for all the silly questions. Also does anyone happen to have the Tutorial around that Kevin Reeves did? I googled for it and got a link but it didn't work. I got a "the requested url can't be found on this server" message. Thanks for any answers. /Krister