Re: mouse tracking in Yosemite and the Apple Magic Track Pad

2015-08-24 Thread Slau Halatyn
Yes, Track Pad Commander takes over the functionality so you can't do regular 
mouse clicks with that mode enabled. Glad you figured it out.

Slau

On Aug 24, 2015, at 7:32 AM, Martin (Punky) Sopart m...@cakewalker.de wrote:

 Hello Slau!
 
 Disabling the trackpad support in the VoiceOver utility make everything work 
 again.
 My fault was that I tried it in the edit window.
 
 Thank you and have a nice day! / Martin
 
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Re: mouse tracking in Yosemite and the Apple Magic Track Pad

2015-08-24 Thread Nickus de Vos
Hi Slau
Thanks for the quick reply and the very good summery. I certainly had my fair 
share of issues with mouse clicking in the past and 90% of the time I don’t get 
the click with the first try. It certainly sounds as if a trackpad would be 
helpful in some situations and maybe I should just take the plunge and get one.
Thanks again, if you can think of anything else to add, please do.

Nickus
 On 24 Aug 2015, at 6:13 PM, Slau Halatyn slauhala...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi Nickus,
 
 The advantage of a track pad is that, when you go to perform a click, all you 
 have to do is touch the surface anywhere on the track pad and you'll be 
 successful. the problem with the mouse is that, when you go to touch it, you 
 might accidentally move the mouse before clicking. It's not reliable enough. 
 Yes, it works in a pinch but I personally couldn't live with that day in and 
 day out. The track pad is stationary and large. It won't move when you get 
 your bearings and it doesn't move after you've pressed it. To me, it's more 
 reliable and consistent. Since its active range is fixed in a physical 
 dimension, it's possible to touch a specific point and move the focus to that 
 area of the screen more reliably than having to move a mouse which is only 
 relative to the mouse's travel rather than an actual physical point. I tend 
 not to use the track pad for those purposes but it's certainly possible to 
 use it that way and some folks might find that really helpful. For example, 
 in the Mix window, you can touch, say, the right side of the track pad and 
 you'll hear the names of tracks that appear toward the right side of the Mix 
 window. Rather than starting from the left with voiceOver and moving through 
 all of the tracks, the track pad allows you to more quickly focus on that 
 right side area to begin with. Once you've located the track, you can then 
 pick up with keyboard commands. The same holds true for other windows. Again, 
 I typically don't use it that way but it's entirely possible and others might 
 prefer that method.
 
 Cheers,
 
 Slau
 
 On Aug 24, 2015, at 12:00 PM, Nickus de Vos bigboy...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi all
 I was just wondering about a track pad yesterday. How useful is a trackpad 
 in terms of use with PT? Are there a lot of advantages, ways to do things 
 quicker, nice commands etc we can use in a typical PT workflow? basically, 
 would you say it would be worth for me to buy a trackpad to use with my iMac 
 and Pro-Tools? For some reason back when buying my iMac they didn’t want to 
 give me the option here in SA to take a trackpad with my iMac rather than 
 the wireless mouse.
 
 Nickus
 On 24 Aug 2015, at 3:42 PM, Slau Halatyn slauhala...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Yes, Track Pad Commander takes over the functionality so you can't do 
 regular mouse clicks with that mode enabled. Glad you figured it out.
 
 Slau
 
 On Aug 24, 2015, at 7:32 AM, Martin (Punky) Sopart m...@cakewalker.de 
 wrote:
 
 Hello Slau!
 
 Disabling the trackpad support in the VoiceOver utility make everything 
 work again.
 My fault was that I tried it in the edit window.
 
 Thank you and have a nice day! / Martin
 
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Re: mouse tracking in Yosemite and the Apple Magic Track Pad

2015-08-24 Thread Nickus de Vos
Hi all
I was just wondering about a track pad yesterday. How useful is a trackpad in 
terms of use with PT? Are there a lot of advantages, ways to do things quicker, 
nice commands etc we can use in a typical PT workflow? basically, would you say 
it would be worth for me to buy a trackpad to use with my iMac and Pro-Tools? 
For some reason back when buying my iMac they didn’t want to give me the option 
here in SA to take a trackpad with my iMac rather than the wireless mouse.

Nickus
 On 24 Aug 2015, at 3:42 PM, Slau Halatyn slauhala...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Yes, Track Pad Commander takes over the functionality so you can't do regular 
 mouse clicks with that mode enabled. Glad you figured it out.
 
 Slau
 
 On Aug 24, 2015, at 7:32 AM, Martin (Punky) Sopart m...@cakewalker.de wrote:
 
 Hello Slau!
 
 Disabling the trackpad support in the VoiceOver utility make everything work 
 again.
 My fault was that I tried it in the edit window.
 
 Thank you and have a nice day! / Martin
 
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Re: mouse tracking in Yosemite and the Apple Magic Track Pad

2015-08-24 Thread Slau Halatyn
Hi Nickus,

The advantage of a track pad is that, when you go to perform a click, all you 
have to do is touch the surface anywhere on the track pad and you'll be 
successful. the problem with the mouse is that, when you go to touch it, you 
might accidentally move the mouse before clicking. It's not reliable enough. 
Yes, it works in a pinch but I personally couldn't live with that day in and 
day out. The track pad is stationary and large. It won't move when you get your 
bearings and it doesn't move after you've pressed it. To me, it's more reliable 
and consistent. Since its active range is fixed in a physical dimension, it's 
possible to touch a specific point and move the focus to that area of the 
screen more reliably than having to move a mouse which is only relative to the 
mouse's travel rather than an actual physical point. I tend not to use the 
track pad for those purposes but it's certainly possible to use it that way and 
some folks might find that really helpful. For example, in the Mix window, you 
can touch, say, the right side of the track pad and you'll hear the names of 
tracks that appear toward the right side of the Mix window. Rather than 
starting from the left with voiceOver and moving through all of the tracks, the 
track pad allows you to more quickly focus on that right side area to begin 
with. Once you've located the track, you can then pick up with keyboard 
commands. The same holds true for other windows. Again, I typically don't use 
it that way but it's entirely possible and others might prefer that method.

Cheers,

Slau

On Aug 24, 2015, at 12:00 PM, Nickus de Vos bigboy...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi all
 I was just wondering about a track pad yesterday. How useful is a trackpad in 
 terms of use with PT? Are there a lot of advantages, ways to do things 
 quicker, nice commands etc we can use in a typical PT workflow? basically, 
 would you say it would be worth for me to buy a trackpad to use with my iMac 
 and Pro-Tools? For some reason back when buying my iMac they didn’t want to 
 give me the option here in SA to take a trackpad with my iMac rather than the 
 wireless mouse.
 
 Nickus
 On 24 Aug 2015, at 3:42 PM, Slau Halatyn slauhala...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Yes, Track Pad Commander takes over the functionality so you can't do 
 regular mouse clicks with that mode enabled. Glad you figured it out.
 
 Slau
 
 On Aug 24, 2015, at 7:32 AM, Martin (Punky) Sopart m...@cakewalker.de 
 wrote:
 
 Hello Slau!
 
 Disabling the trackpad support in the VoiceOver utility make everything 
 work again.
 My fault was that I tried it in the edit window.
 
 Thank you and have a nice day! / Martin
 
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RE: mouse tracking in Yosemite and the Apple Magic Track Pad

2015-08-24 Thread Martin (Punky) Sopart
Hello tot he list!

I tried the steps below on a new MacBook Pro, Yosemite and PT12.1 with no 
tsuccess.

A double tap on the trackpad with no modifier works for solo, mute etc.
But trying to solo save a track - holding command and double tapping - does not 
work.

Do you have any idea?

Thanks in advance! / Martin
 -Original Message-
 From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com]
 On Behalf Of Slau Halatyn
 Sent: Friday, March 6, 2015 5:24 PM
 To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
 Subject: mouse tracking in Yosemite and the Apple Magic Track Pad
 
 I bought the Apple Magic Track Pad when it first came out and didn't use it
 terribly much as I was using an old version of Pro Tools under OS 9 at the
 time. Having since switched over to Pro Tools 11 full time, I've experimented
 with the Track Pad as I know some others on the list have as well. For
 anybody who wants to easily perform modified clicks in Pro Tools to solo
 safe, record all, show or hide all with ease, I'd highly recommend it. One
 recommendation would be to turn off everything in the Track Pad panel of
 System Preferences except for the very first checkbox labeled Tap to Click.
 If you set the mouse pointer to follow the VoiceOver cursor, simply holding
 down the modifier and tapping the Track Pad anywhere will perform the
 modified click. Further, pop-up lists behave normally with the modified
 behavior. Of course, laptop users with track pads already have this
 functionality but anybody with a Mac Mini or iMac, etc. would benefit from
 the Magic Track Pad. A mouse could possibly work OK but one risks the
 possibility of moving the mouse pointer before performing the click. The
 Track Pad won't have this issue unless one touches the pad elsewhere and
 moves it. I find that its form factor is practically fool-proof.
 
 Just a thought for those without a surface to easily work with modified 
 clicks.
 
 Slau
 
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Re: mouse tracking in Yosemite and the Apple Magic Track Pad

2015-08-24 Thread Slau Halatyn
Well, for starters, don't double-click. The way to press a button is to single 
click. The way to solo safe a track, for example, is to Command-click which 
means to hold the modifier and click not double-click. Give that a try. I'm 
Yosemite and version 12 with no issues.

Cheers,

Slau

On Aug 24, 2015, at 6:56 AM, Martin (Punky) Sopart m...@cakewalker.de wrote:

 Hello tot he list!
 
 I tried the steps below on a new MacBook Pro, Yosemite and PT12.1 with no 
 tsuccess.
 
 A double tap on the trackpad with no modifier works for solo, mute etc.
 But trying to solo save a track - holding command and double tapping - does 
 not work.
 
 Do you have any idea?
 
 Thanks in advance! / Martin
 -Original Message-
 From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com]
 On Behalf Of Slau Halatyn
 Sent: Friday, March 6, 2015 5:24 PM
 To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
 Subject: mouse tracking in Yosemite and the Apple Magic Track Pad
 
 I bought the Apple Magic Track Pad when it first came out and didn't use it
 terribly much as I was using an old version of Pro Tools under OS 9 at the
 time. Having since switched over to Pro Tools 11 full time, I've experimented
 with the Track Pad as I know some others on the list have as well. For
 anybody who wants to easily perform modified clicks in Pro Tools to solo
 safe, record all, show or hide all with ease, I'd highly recommend it. One
 recommendation would be to turn off everything in the Track Pad panel of
 System Preferences except for the very first checkbox labeled Tap to Click.
 If you set the mouse pointer to follow the VoiceOver cursor, simply holding
 down the modifier and tapping the Track Pad anywhere will perform the
 modified click. Further, pop-up lists behave normally with the modified
 behavior. Of course, laptop users with track pads already have this
 functionality but anybody with a Mac Mini or iMac, etc. would benefit from
 the Magic Track Pad. A mouse could possibly work OK but one risks the
 possibility of moving the mouse pointer before performing the click. The
 Track Pad won't have this issue unless one touches the pad elsewhere and
 moves it. I find that its form factor is practically fool-proof.
 
 Just a thought for those without a surface to easily work with modified 
 clicks.
 
 Slau
 
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RE: mouse tracking in Yosemite and the Apple Magic Track Pad

2015-08-24 Thread Martin (Punky) Sopart
Do I have to disable the VoiceOver trackpad support for that?

Sorry for asking..
I usually use a controller and I'm asking for a friend.

Best! / Martin
 -Original Message-
 From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com]
 On Behalf Of Slau Halatyn
 Sent: Monday, August 24, 2015 1:02 PM
 To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: mouse tracking in Yosemite and the Apple Magic Track Pad
 
 Well, for starters, don't double-click. The way to press a button is to single
 click. The way to solo safe a track, for example, is to Command-click which
 means to hold the modifier and click not double-click. Give that a try. I'm
 Yosemite and version 12 with no issues.
 
 Cheers,
 
 Slau
 
 On Aug 24, 2015, at 6:56 AM, Martin (Punky) Sopart m...@cakewalker.de
 wrote:
 
  Hello tot he list!
 
  I tried the steps below on a new MacBook Pro, Yosemite and PT12.1 with
 no tsuccess.
 
  A double tap on the trackpad with no modifier works for solo, mute etc.
  But trying to solo save a track - holding command and double tapping - does
 not work.
 
  Do you have any idea?
 
  Thanks in advance! / Martin
  -Original Message-
  From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com]
  On Behalf Of Slau Halatyn
  Sent: Friday, March 6, 2015 5:24 PM
  To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
  Subject: mouse tracking in Yosemite and the Apple Magic Track Pad
 
  I bought the Apple Magic Track Pad when it first came out and didn't use it
  terribly much as I was using an old version of Pro Tools under OS 9 at the
  time. Having since switched over to Pro Tools 11 full time, I've
 experimented
  with the Track Pad as I know some others on the list have as well. For
  anybody who wants to easily perform modified clicks in Pro Tools to solo
  safe, record all, show or hide all with ease, I'd highly recommend it. One
  recommendation would be to turn off everything in the Track Pad panel
 of
  System Preferences except for the very first checkbox labeled Tap to
 Click.
  If you set the mouse pointer to follow the VoiceOver cursor, simply
 holding
  down the modifier and tapping the Track Pad anywhere will perform the
  modified click. Further, pop-up lists behave normally with the modified
  behavior. Of course, laptop users with track pads already have this
  functionality but anybody with a Mac Mini or iMac, etc. would benefit
 from
  the Magic Track Pad. A mouse could possibly work OK but one risks the
  possibility of moving the mouse pointer before performing the click. The
  Track Pad won't have this issue unless one touches the pad elsewhere
 and
  moves it. I find that its form factor is practically fool-proof.
 
  Just a thought for those without a surface to easily work with modified
 clicks.
 
  Slau
 
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RE: mouse tracking in Yosemite and the Apple Magic Track Pad

2015-08-24 Thread Martin (Punky) Sopart
Hello Slau!

Disabling the trackpad support in the VoiceOver utility make everything work 
again.
My fault was that I tried it in the edit window.

Thank you and have a nice day! / Martin

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Re: mouse tracking in Yosemite and the Apple Magic Track Pad

2015-03-13 Thread Nick Gawronski
Hi, I usually upgrade to a new version of the Mac operating system by 
partitioning my hard drive into the number of partitions I will need for 
backward compatibility and in the installer for the new version press 
the show all disks button then name the partitions with the version of 
the operating system I am using so if I need to go back it is just a 
matter of going into start up disk and changing the disk then 
restarting.  This task might be the best for all users but I find it 
gets the job done for me.  Nick Gawronski


On 3/13/2015 11:48 AM, Ricky Prevatte wrote:

Any savvy user will understand it is easier to deal with the trackpad then put 
up with moving a mouse. I usually tether my mouse anyway to keep from having to 
route it to the voiceover cursor.

Ricky Prevatte LMBT1154


On Mar 13, 2015, at 7:57 AM, Slau Halatyn slauhala...@gmail.com wrote:

They're aware and nobody every knows if and when Apple will do anything about 
any bugs. That's just the way Apple is.

There's no particular method about the behavior in Pro Tools once you tether 
the mouse pointer except that sometimes adding the shift modifier to perform a 
physical mouse click seems to work a little better depending on the situation. 
The steps I outlined about use of the Track Pad are simply just an alternative 
to using a physical mouse.

Slau


On Mar 13, 2015, at 3:44 AM, Nick Gawronski n...@nickgawronski.com wrote:

Hi, Are these issues with using the mouse pointer with Pro Tools with voiceover 
going to be fixed and is Apple aware of them as I like the old method much 
better and think this new method can make new users not want to use Pro Tools 
if they use the audio tutorials around that don't talk about this method at 
all?  Nick Gawronski


On 3/12/2015 10:43 PM, Ricky Prevatte wrote:
Well I will start that process very soon thank you sir.

Ricky Prevatte LMBT1154


On Mar 12, 2015, at 11:41 PM, Slau Halatyn slauhala...@gmail.com wrote:

Ah, yes. Yosemite is totally fine for Pro Tools if you tether the mouse 
pointer. When specifying that preference as a function of Activities in the 
VoiceOver Utility, it's very useable.

Slau


On Mar 12, 2015, at 11:06 PM, Ricky Prevatte rickypreva...@gmail.com wrote:

Yosemite is it safe to upgrade to Yosemite? I should have been more clear I 
just saw Yosemite in the subject line.

Ricky Prevatte LMBT1154


On Mar 12, 2015, at 11:02 PM, Slau Halatyn slauhala...@gmail.com wrote:

Safe? What do you mean?


On Mar 12, 2015, at 9:01 PM, Ricky Prevatte rickypreva...@gmail.com wrote:

Well I guess I will upgrade.  Is it safe?

On Mar 6, 2015, at 11:24 AM, Slau Halatyn slauhala...@gmail.com wrote:

I bought the Apple Magic Track Pad when it first came out and didn't use it terribly much 
as I was using an old version of Pro Tools under OS 9 at the time. Having since switched 
over to Pro Tools 11 full time, I've experimented with the Track Pad as I know some 
others on the list have as well. For anybody who wants to easily perform modified clicks 
in Pro Tools to solo safe, record all, show or hide all with ease, I'd highly recommend 
it. One recommendation would be to turn off everything in the Track Pad panel of System 
Preferences except for the very first checkbox labeled Tap to Click. If you 
set the mouse pointer to follow the VoiceOver cursor, simply holding down the modifier 
and tapping the Track Pad anywhere will perform the modified click. Further, pop-up lists 
behave normally with the modified behavior. Of course, laptop users with track pads 
already have this functionality but anybody with a Mac Mini or iMac, etc. would benefit 
from the Magic Track Pad. A mouse could possibly work OK but one risks the possibility of 
moving the mouse pointer before performing the click. The Track Pad won't have this issue 
unless one touches the pad elsewhere and moves it. I find that its form factor is 
practically fool-proof.

Just a thought for those without a surface to easily work with modified clicks.

Slau

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Re: mouse tracking in Yosemite and the Apple Magic Track Pad

2015-03-13 Thread Nick Gawronski
Hi, Are these issues with using the mouse pointer with Pro Tools with 
voiceover going to be fixed and is Apple aware of them as I like the old 
method much better and think this new method can make new users not want 
to use Pro Tools if they use the audio tutorials around that don't talk 
about this method at all?  Nick Gawronski


On 3/12/2015 10:43 PM, Ricky Prevatte wrote:

Well I will start that process very soon thank you sir.

Ricky Prevatte LMBT1154


On Mar 12, 2015, at 11:41 PM, Slau Halatyn slauhala...@gmail.com wrote:

Ah, yes. Yosemite is totally fine for Pro Tools if you tether the mouse 
pointer. When specifying that preference as a function of Activities in the 
VoiceOver Utility, it's very useable.

Slau


On Mar 12, 2015, at 11:06 PM, Ricky Prevatte rickypreva...@gmail.com wrote:

Yosemite is it safe to upgrade to Yosemite? I should have been more clear I 
just saw Yosemite in the subject line.

Ricky Prevatte LMBT1154


On Mar 12, 2015, at 11:02 PM, Slau Halatyn slauhala...@gmail.com wrote:

Safe? What do you mean?


On Mar 12, 2015, at 9:01 PM, Ricky Prevatte rickypreva...@gmail.com wrote:

Well I guess I will upgrade.  Is it safe?

On Mar 6, 2015, at 11:24 AM, Slau Halatyn slauhala...@gmail.com wrote:

I bought the Apple Magic Track Pad when it first came out and didn't use it terribly much 
as I was using an old version of Pro Tools under OS 9 at the time. Having since switched 
over to Pro Tools 11 full time, I've experimented with the Track Pad as I know some 
others on the list have as well. For anybody who wants to easily perform modified clicks 
in Pro Tools to solo safe, record all, show or hide all with ease, I'd highly recommend 
it. One recommendation would be to turn off everything in the Track Pad panel of System 
Preferences except for the very first checkbox labeled Tap to Click. If you 
set the mouse pointer to follow the VoiceOver cursor, simply holding down the modifier 
and tapping the Track Pad anywhere will perform the modified click. Further, pop-up lists 
behave normally with the modified behavior. Of course, laptop users with track pads 
already have this functionality but anybody with a Mac Mini or iMac, etc. would benefit 
from the Magic Track Pad. A mouse could possibly work OK but one risks the possibility of 
moving the mouse pointer before performing the click. The Track Pad won't have this issue 
unless one touches the pad elsewhere and moves it. I find that its form factor is 
practically fool-proof.

Just a thought for those without a surface to easily work with modified clicks.

Slau

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RE: mouse tracking in Yosemite and the Apple Magic Track Pad

2015-03-13 Thread Martin Sopart
Hi Slau!

 If you set the mouse pointer to follow the VoiceOver cursor, simply holding
 down the modifier and tapping the Track Pad anywhere will perform the
 modified click.

Double or single tap?

Best Martin

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Re: mouse tracking in Yosemite and the Apple Magic Track Pad

2015-03-13 Thread Slau Halatyn
Single tap works best because you can then use VoiceOver to navigate menus and 
submenus. Without the settings as I've outlined, a single tap would only open 
the menus and close them as soon as you lifted your finger off the track pad. 
For Command-clicking a Solo button, it's not an issue but for performing global 
shortcuts with modifiers that apply to assigning outputs, for example, you'd 
need to traverse the pop-up menu. The settings as I've described will work well 
with VoiceOver.

Slau

On Mar 13, 2015, at 4:37 AM, Martin Sopart m...@cakewalker.de wrote:

 Hi Slau!
 
 If you set the mouse pointer to follow the VoiceOver cursor, simply holding
 down the modifier and tapping the Track Pad anywhere will perform the
 modified click.
 
 Double or single tap?
 
 Best Martin
 
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Re: mouse tracking in Yosemite and the Apple Magic Track Pad

2015-03-13 Thread Slau Halatyn
There's much conjecture about what is the best way to upgrade. One can 
certainly just upgrade to Yosemite via Software Update. Others insist that a 
clean install is better. For updates like this, I've always had good results by 
doing a clean install and importing data from a backup drive. For the first 
time, however, I set up this particular Mac from scratch without importing 
anything. It's the studio machine and has no personal data on it so it was 
fairly easy. Most people on the list, however, might be using their machines 
for personal stuff as well so importing data from a backup drive is probably 
much more sensible.

Slau

On Mar 12, 2015, at 11:43 PM, Ricky Prevatte rickypreva...@gmail.com wrote:

 Well I will start that process very soon thank you sir.
 
 Ricky Prevatte LMBT1154
 
 On Mar 12, 2015, at 11:41 PM, Slau Halatyn slauhala...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Ah, yes. Yosemite is totally fine for Pro Tools if you tether the mouse 
 pointer. When specifying that preference as a function of Activities in the 
 VoiceOver Utility, it's very useable.
 
 Slau
 
 On Mar 12, 2015, at 11:06 PM, Ricky Prevatte rickypreva...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 Yosemite is it safe to upgrade to Yosemite? I should have been more clear I 
 just saw Yosemite in the subject line.
 
 Ricky Prevatte LMBT1154
 
 On Mar 12, 2015, at 11:02 PM, Slau Halatyn slauhala...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Safe? What do you mean?
 
 On Mar 12, 2015, at 9:01 PM, Ricky Prevatte rickypreva...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 Well I guess I will upgrade.  Is it safe?
 On Mar 6, 2015, at 11:24 AM, Slau Halatyn slauhala...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I bought the Apple Magic Track Pad when it first came out and didn't use 
 it terribly much as I was using an old version of Pro Tools under OS 9 
 at the time. Having since switched over to Pro Tools 11 full time, I've 
 experimented with the Track Pad as I know some others on the list have 
 as well. For anybody who wants to easily perform modified clicks in Pro 
 Tools to solo safe, record all, show or hide all with ease, I'd highly 
 recommend it. One recommendation would be to turn off everything in the 
 Track Pad panel of System Preferences except for the very first checkbox 
 labeled Tap to Click. If you set the mouse pointer to follow the 
 VoiceOver cursor, simply holding down the modifier and tapping the Track 
 Pad anywhere will perform the modified click. Further, pop-up lists 
 behave normally with the modified behavior. Of course, laptop users with 
 track pads already have this functionality but anybody with a Mac Mini 
 or iMac, etc. would benefit from the Magic Track Pad. A mouse could 
 possibly work OK but one risks the possibility of moving the mouse 
 pointer before performing the click. The Track Pad won't have this issue 
 unless one touches the pad elsewhere and moves it. I find that its form 
 factor is practically fool-proof.
 
 Just a thought for those without a surface to easily work with modified 
 clicks.
 
 Slau
 
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Re: mouse tracking in Yosemite and the Apple Magic Track Pad

2015-03-13 Thread Slau Halatyn
They're aware and nobody every knows if and when Apple will do anything about 
any bugs. That's just the way Apple is.

There's no particular method about the behavior in Pro Tools once you tether 
the mouse pointer except that sometimes adding the shift modifier to perform a 
physical mouse click seems to work a little better depending on the situation. 
The steps I outlined about use of the Track Pad are simply just an alternative 
to using a physical mouse.

Slau

On Mar 13, 2015, at 3:44 AM, Nick Gawronski n...@nickgawronski.com wrote:

 Hi, Are these issues with using the mouse pointer with Pro Tools with 
 voiceover going to be fixed and is Apple aware of them as I like the old 
 method much better and think this new method can make new users not want to 
 use Pro Tools if they use the audio tutorials around that don't talk about 
 this method at all?  Nick Gawronski
 
 On 3/12/2015 10:43 PM, Ricky Prevatte wrote:
 Well I will start that process very soon thank you sir.
 
 Ricky Prevatte LMBT1154
 
 On Mar 12, 2015, at 11:41 PM, Slau Halatyn slauhala...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Ah, yes. Yosemite is totally fine for Pro Tools if you tether the mouse 
 pointer. When specifying that preference as a function of Activities in the 
 VoiceOver Utility, it's very useable.
 
 Slau
 
 On Mar 12, 2015, at 11:06 PM, Ricky Prevatte rickypreva...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 Yosemite is it safe to upgrade to Yosemite? I should have been more clear 
 I just saw Yosemite in the subject line.
 
 Ricky Prevatte LMBT1154
 
 On Mar 12, 2015, at 11:02 PM, Slau Halatyn slauhala...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Safe? What do you mean?
 
 On Mar 12, 2015, at 9:01 PM, Ricky Prevatte rickypreva...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 Well I guess I will upgrade.  Is it safe?
 On Mar 6, 2015, at 11:24 AM, Slau Halatyn slauhala...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I bought the Apple Magic Track Pad when it first came out and didn't 
 use it terribly much as I was using an old version of Pro Tools under 
 OS 9 at the time. Having since switched over to Pro Tools 11 full time, 
 I've experimented with the Track Pad as I know some others on the list 
 have as well. For anybody who wants to easily perform modified clicks 
 in Pro Tools to solo safe, record all, show or hide all with ease, I'd 
 highly recommend it. One recommendation would be to turn off everything 
 in the Track Pad panel of System Preferences except for the very first 
 checkbox labeled Tap to Click. If you set the mouse pointer to follow 
 the VoiceOver cursor, simply holding down the modifier and tapping the 
 Track Pad anywhere will perform the modified click. Further, pop-up 
 lists behave normally with the modified behavior. Of course, laptop 
 users with track pads already have this functionality but anybody with 
 a Mac Mini or iMac, etc. would benefit from the Magic Track Pad. A 
 mouse could possibly work OK but one risks the possibility of moving 
 the mouse pointer before performing the click. The Track Pad won't have 
 this issue unless one touches the pad elsewhere and moves it. I find 
 that its form factor is practically fool-proof.
 
 Just a thought for those without a surface to easily work with modified 
 clicks.
 
 Slau
 
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Re: mouse tracking in Yosemite and the Apple Magic Track Pad

2015-03-13 Thread Ricky Prevatte
Any savvy user will understand it is easier to deal with the trackpad then put 
up with moving a mouse. I usually tether my mouse anyway to keep from having to 
route it to the voiceover cursor.

Ricky Prevatte LMBT1154

 On Mar 13, 2015, at 7:57 AM, Slau Halatyn slauhala...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 They're aware and nobody every knows if and when Apple will do anything about 
 any bugs. That's just the way Apple is.
 
 There's no particular method about the behavior in Pro Tools once you tether 
 the mouse pointer except that sometimes adding the shift modifier to perform 
 a physical mouse click seems to work a little better depending on the 
 situation. The steps I outlined about use of the Track Pad are simply just an 
 alternative to using a physical mouse.
 
 Slau
 
 On Mar 13, 2015, at 3:44 AM, Nick Gawronski n...@nickgawronski.com wrote:
 
 Hi, Are these issues with using the mouse pointer with Pro Tools with 
 voiceover going to be fixed and is Apple aware of them as I like the old 
 method much better and think this new method can make new users not want to 
 use Pro Tools if they use the audio tutorials around that don't talk about 
 this method at all?  Nick Gawronski
 
 On 3/12/2015 10:43 PM, Ricky Prevatte wrote:
 Well I will start that process very soon thank you sir.
 
 Ricky Prevatte LMBT1154
 
 On Mar 12, 2015, at 11:41 PM, Slau Halatyn slauhala...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Ah, yes. Yosemite is totally fine for Pro Tools if you tether the mouse 
 pointer. When specifying that preference as a function of Activities in 
 the VoiceOver Utility, it's very useable.
 
 Slau
 
 On Mar 12, 2015, at 11:06 PM, Ricky Prevatte rickypreva...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 Yosemite is it safe to upgrade to Yosemite? I should have been more clear 
 I just saw Yosemite in the subject line.
 
 Ricky Prevatte LMBT1154
 
 On Mar 12, 2015, at 11:02 PM, Slau Halatyn slauhala...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Safe? What do you mean?
 
 On Mar 12, 2015, at 9:01 PM, Ricky Prevatte rickypreva...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 Well I guess I will upgrade.  Is it safe?
 On Mar 6, 2015, at 11:24 AM, Slau Halatyn slauhala...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 I bought the Apple Magic Track Pad when it first came out and didn't 
 use it terribly much as I was using an old version of Pro Tools under 
 OS 9 at the time. Having since switched over to Pro Tools 11 full 
 time, I've experimented with the Track Pad as I know some others on 
 the list have as well. For anybody who wants to easily perform 
 modified clicks in Pro Tools to solo safe, record all, show or hide 
 all with ease, I'd highly recommend it. One recommendation would be to 
 turn off everything in the Track Pad panel of System Preferences 
 except for the very first checkbox labeled Tap to Click. If you set 
 the mouse pointer to follow the VoiceOver cursor, simply holding down 
 the modifier and tapping the Track Pad anywhere will perform the 
 modified click. Further, pop-up lists behave normally with the 
 modified behavior. Of course, laptop users with track pads already 
 have this functionality but anybody with a Mac Mini or iMac, etc. 
 would benefit from the Magic Track Pad. A mouse could possibly work OK 
 but one risks the possibility of moving the mouse pointer before 
 performing the click. The Track Pad won't have this issue unless one 
 touches the pad elsewhere and moves it. I find that its form factor is 
 practically fool-proof.
 
 Just a thought for those without a surface to easily work with 
 modified clicks.
 
 Slau
 
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Re: mouse tracking in Yosemite and the Apple Magic Track Pad

2015-03-12 Thread Slau Halatyn
Safe? What do you mean?

On Mar 12, 2015, at 9:01 PM, Ricky Prevatte rickypreva...@gmail.com wrote:

 Well I guess I will upgrade.  Is it safe?
 On Mar 6, 2015, at 11:24 AM, Slau Halatyn slauhala...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I bought the Apple Magic Track Pad when it first came out and didn't use it 
 terribly much as I was using an old version of Pro Tools under OS 9 at the 
 time. Having since switched over to Pro Tools 11 full time, I've 
 experimented with the Track Pad as I know some others on the list have as 
 well. For anybody who wants to easily perform modified clicks in Pro Tools 
 to solo safe, record all, show or hide all with ease, I'd highly recommend 
 it. One recommendation would be to turn off everything in the Track Pad 
 panel of System Preferences except for the very first checkbox labeled Tap 
 to Click. If you set the mouse pointer to follow the VoiceOver cursor, 
 simply holding down the modifier and tapping the Track Pad anywhere will 
 perform the modified click. Further, pop-up lists behave normally with the 
 modified behavior. Of course, laptop users with track pads already have this 
 functionality but anybody with a Mac Mini or iMac, etc. would benefit from 
 the Magic Track Pad. A mouse could possibly work OK but one risks the 
 possibility of moving the mouse pointer before performing the click. The 
 Track Pad won't have this issue unless one touches the pad elsewhere and 
 moves it. I find that its form factor is practically fool-proof.
 
 Just a thought for those without a surface to easily work with modified 
 clicks.
 
 Slau
 
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Re: mouse tracking in Yosemite and the Apple Magic Track Pad

2015-03-12 Thread Ricky Prevatte
Yosemite is it safe to upgrade to Yosemite? I should have been more clear I 
just saw Yosemite in the subject line.

Ricky Prevatte LMBT1154

 On Mar 12, 2015, at 11:02 PM, Slau Halatyn slauhala...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Safe? What do you mean?
 
 On Mar 12, 2015, at 9:01 PM, Ricky Prevatte rickypreva...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Well I guess I will upgrade.  Is it safe?
 On Mar 6, 2015, at 11:24 AM, Slau Halatyn slauhala...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I bought the Apple Magic Track Pad when it first came out and didn't use it 
 terribly much as I was using an old version of Pro Tools under OS 9 at the 
 time. Having since switched over to Pro Tools 11 full time, I've 
 experimented with the Track Pad as I know some others on the list have as 
 well. For anybody who wants to easily perform modified clicks in Pro Tools 
 to solo safe, record all, show or hide all with ease, I'd highly recommend 
 it. One recommendation would be to turn off everything in the Track Pad 
 panel of System Preferences except for the very first checkbox labeled Tap 
 to Click. If you set the mouse pointer to follow the VoiceOver cursor, 
 simply holding down the modifier and tapping the Track Pad anywhere will 
 perform the modified click. Further, pop-up lists behave normally with the 
 modified behavior. Of course, laptop users with track pads already have 
 this functionality but anybody with a Mac Mini or iMac, etc. would benefit 
 from the Magic Track Pad. A mouse could possibly work OK but one risks the 
 possibility of moving the mouse pointer before performing the click. The 
 Track Pad won't have this issue unless one touches the pad elsewhere and 
 moves it. I find that its form factor is practically fool-proof.
 
 Just a thought for those without a surface to easily work with modified 
 clicks.
 
 Slau
 
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Re: mouse tracking in Yosemite and the Apple Magic Track Pad

2015-03-12 Thread Ricky Prevatte
Well I will start that process very soon thank you sir.

Ricky Prevatte LMBT1154

 On Mar 12, 2015, at 11:41 PM, Slau Halatyn slauhala...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Ah, yes. Yosemite is totally fine for Pro Tools if you tether the mouse 
 pointer. When specifying that preference as a function of Activities in the 
 VoiceOver Utility, it's very useable.
 
 Slau
 
 On Mar 12, 2015, at 11:06 PM, Ricky Prevatte rickypreva...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Yosemite is it safe to upgrade to Yosemite? I should have been more clear I 
 just saw Yosemite in the subject line.
 
 Ricky Prevatte LMBT1154
 
 On Mar 12, 2015, at 11:02 PM, Slau Halatyn slauhala...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Safe? What do you mean?
 
 On Mar 12, 2015, at 9:01 PM, Ricky Prevatte rickypreva...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 Well I guess I will upgrade.  Is it safe?
 On Mar 6, 2015, at 11:24 AM, Slau Halatyn slauhala...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I bought the Apple Magic Track Pad when it first came out and didn't use 
 it terribly much as I was using an old version of Pro Tools under OS 9 at 
 the time. Having since switched over to Pro Tools 11 full time, I've 
 experimented with the Track Pad as I know some others on the list have as 
 well. For anybody who wants to easily perform modified clicks in Pro 
 Tools to solo safe, record all, show or hide all with ease, I'd highly 
 recommend it. One recommendation would be to turn off everything in the 
 Track Pad panel of System Preferences except for the very first checkbox 
 labeled Tap to Click. If you set the mouse pointer to follow the 
 VoiceOver cursor, simply holding down the modifier and tapping the Track 
 Pad anywhere will perform the modified click. Further, pop-up lists 
 behave normally with the modified behavior. Of course, laptop users with 
 track pads already have this functionality but anybody with a Mac Mini or 
 iMac, etc. would benefit from the Magic Track Pad. A mouse could possibly 
 work OK but one risks the possibility of moving the mouse pointer before 
 performing the click. The Track Pad won't have this issue unless one 
 touches the pad elsewhere and moves it. I find that its form factor is 
 practically fool-proof.
 
 Just a thought for those without a surface to easily work with modified 
 clicks.
 
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Re: mouse tracking in Yosemite and the Apple Magic Track Pad

2015-03-12 Thread Slau Halatyn
Ah, yes. Yosemite is totally fine for Pro Tools if you tether the mouse 
pointer. When specifying that preference as a function of Activities in the 
VoiceOver Utility, it's very useable.

Slau

On Mar 12, 2015, at 11:06 PM, Ricky Prevatte rickypreva...@gmail.com wrote:

 Yosemite is it safe to upgrade to Yosemite? I should have been more clear I 
 just saw Yosemite in the subject line.
 
 Ricky Prevatte LMBT1154
 
 On Mar 12, 2015, at 11:02 PM, Slau Halatyn slauhala...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Safe? What do you mean?
 
 On Mar 12, 2015, at 9:01 PM, Ricky Prevatte rickypreva...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Well I guess I will upgrade.  Is it safe?
 On Mar 6, 2015, at 11:24 AM, Slau Halatyn slauhala...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I bought the Apple Magic Track Pad when it first came out and didn't use 
 it terribly much as I was using an old version of Pro Tools under OS 9 at 
 the time. Having since switched over to Pro Tools 11 full time, I've 
 experimented with the Track Pad as I know some others on the list have as 
 well. For anybody who wants to easily perform modified clicks in Pro Tools 
 to solo safe, record all, show or hide all with ease, I'd highly recommend 
 it. One recommendation would be to turn off everything in the Track Pad 
 panel of System Preferences except for the very first checkbox labeled 
 Tap to Click. If you set the mouse pointer to follow the VoiceOver 
 cursor, simply holding down the modifier and tapping the Track Pad 
 anywhere will perform the modified click. Further, pop-up lists behave 
 normally with the modified behavior. Of course, laptop users with track 
 pads already have this functionality but anybody with a Mac Mini or iMac, 
 etc. would benefit from the Magic Track Pad. A mouse could possibly work 
 OK but one risks the possibility of moving the mouse pointer before 
 performing the click. The Track Pad won't have this issue unless one 
 touches the pad elsewhere and moves it. I find that its form factor is 
 practically fool-proof.
 
 Just a thought for those without a surface to easily work with modified 
 clicks.
 
 Slau
 
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Re: mouse tracking in Yosemite and the Apple Magic Track Pad

2015-03-12 Thread Ricky Prevatte
Well I guess I will upgrade.  Is it safe?
On Mar 6, 2015, at 11:24 AM, Slau Halatyn slauhala...@gmail.com wrote:

 I bought the Apple Magic Track Pad when it first came out and didn't use it 
 terribly much as I was using an old version of Pro Tools under OS 9 at the 
 time. Having since switched over to Pro Tools 11 full time, I've experimented 
 with the Track Pad as I know some others on the list have as well. For 
 anybody who wants to easily perform modified clicks in Pro Tools to solo 
 safe, record all, show or hide all with ease, I'd highly recommend it. One 
 recommendation would be to turn off everything in the Track Pad panel of 
 System Preferences except for the very first checkbox labeled Tap to Click. 
 If you set the mouse pointer to follow the VoiceOver cursor, simply holding 
 down the modifier and tapping the Track Pad anywhere will perform the 
 modified click. Further, pop-up lists behave normally with the modified 
 behavior. Of course, laptop users with track pads already have this 
 functionality but anybody with a Mac Mini or iMac, etc. would benefit from 
 the Magic Track Pad. A mouse could possibly work OK but one risks the 
 possibility of moving the mouse pointer before performing the click. The 
 Track Pad won't have this issue unless one touches the pad elsewhere and 
 moves it. I find that its form factor is practically fool-proof.
 
 Just a thought for those without a surface to easily work with modified 
 clicks.
 
 Slau
 
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mouse tracking in Yosemite and the Apple Magic Track Pad

2015-03-06 Thread Slau Halatyn
I bought the Apple Magic Track Pad when it first came out and didn't use it 
terribly much as I was using an old version of Pro Tools under OS 9 at the 
time. Having since switched over to Pro Tools 11 full time, I've experimented 
with the Track Pad as I know some others on the list have as well. For anybody 
who wants to easily perform modified clicks in Pro Tools to solo safe, record 
all, show or hide all with ease, I'd highly recommend it. One recommendation 
would be to turn off everything in the Track Pad panel of System Preferences 
except for the very first checkbox labeled Tap to Click. If you set the mouse 
pointer to follow the VoiceOver cursor, simply holding down the modifier and 
tapping the Track Pad anywhere will perform the modified click. Further, pop-up 
lists behave normally with the modified behavior. Of course, laptop users with 
track pads already have this functionality but anybody with a Mac Mini or iMac, 
etc. would benefit from the Magic Track Pad. A mouse could possibly work OK but 
one risks the possibility of moving the mouse pointer before performing the 
click. The Track Pad won't have this issue unless one touches the pad elsewhere 
and moves it. I find that its form factor is practically fool-proof.

Just a thought for those without a surface to easily work with modified clicks.

Slau

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