Re: [PyMOL] High Resolution Ray Tracing

2016-05-09 Thread James Kress
Did you try using POV-Ray with PyMOL to do the ray tracing?

renderer = 1 uses PovRay's renderer. This is Unix-only and you must have
"povray" in your path. It utilizes two temporary files: "tmp_pymol.pov" and
"tmp_pymol.png". Also works on Mac via Povray37UnofficialMacCmd but it needs
to be in your path as "povray".

 

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Sent: Monday, May 09, 2016 8:35 PM
To: David Hall <li...@cowsandmilk.net>
Cc: pymol-users@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [PyMOL] High Resolution Ray Tracing

 

Thank you for trying this out on a workstation with 128 GB and then 256 GB
of RAM. It is much appreciated as I do not have easy access to that kind of
computational power. The fact that you also get these segfaults with all of
your RAM, suggests that this might be a PyMOL limitation, rather than a
hardware issue. 

 

I have come to the conclusion that it is impossible to ray trace an image
with an output resolution greater than 45 megapixels (7500 x 6000). Halving
the dpi from 1200 to 600 gives a 11.25 megapixel (3750 x 3000) resolution. 

 

I was wondering if the developers have come across this upper limit too? I
have a 2400 dpi printer, so I want to go with the highest dpi possible for
the best quality. 

  _  

From: David Hall <li...@cowsandmilk.net <mailto:li...@cowsandmilk.net> >
Sent: 06 May 2016 19:17:38
To: Stephen Kerry
Cc: pymol-users@lists.sourceforge.net
<mailto:pymol-users@lists.sourceforge.net> 
Subject: Re: [PyMOL] High Resolution Ray Tracing 

 

Feel free to send me the files off list.

 

-David Hall

 

On May 6, 2016, at 1:54 PM, Stephen Kerry <stephen.kerr...@outlook.com
<mailto:stephen.kerr...@outlook.com> > wrote:

 

Dear All,

 

I have a protein complex scene that I need to create a large, high
resolution (1200 dpi) ray traced image of, but am unable to do so as I
always run out of memory at the end of the ray tracing process, with the
following error:

 

python2.7(972,0x7fff7397f300) malloc: ***
mach_vm_map(size=18446744068907188224) failed (error code=3)
*** error: can't allocate region
*** set a breakpoint in malloc_error_break to debug

This is with PyMOL 1.81 from Fink on OSX 10.10 with an i7-4790K processor
and 32 GB of DDR3. Python2.7 expands up to 15 GB of RAM, with more than
twice this reserved for virtual memory, but no swap is actually used.

Decreasing hash_max just increases the ray tracing time until the error at
the end. Sometimes PyMOL will be terminated with this error, whilst at other
times a transparent PNG is all that is produced.

Is there a way to force PyMOL to use virtual memory to avoid these
errors/crashes at the expense of processing time?

If not, is there anyone who has PyMOL 1.8x installed on a system with 64 GB
or more RAM, who would be able to render this ray traced image if I send
the, the .pse file and .pml script off list? Takes about 10 mins to process.

Cheers,

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Re: [PyMOL] Slow Pymol rendering

2016-05-07 Thread James Kress
Glad I could help.

 

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Sent: Saturday, May 07, 2016 12:51 AM
To: jimkress...@kressworks.org
Cc: pymol-users@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [PyMOL] Slow Pymol rendering

 

Dear James,

 

Thank you for your help! I tried versions 364.19, 352.79, 340.96, and none of 
them worked. Finally, I tried version 304.131 and it worked! (although my 
graphics card is listed as supported under all versions). Later I realized that 
command nvidia-detect could check which driver should be installed.

 

And NVidia driver solved the slow pymol problem!

 

Thanks for the help,

Chen

 

On Fri, May 6, 2016 at 1:23 PM, James Kress <jimkress...@kressworks.org 
<mailto:jimkress...@kressworks.org> > wrote:

The NVIDIA driver for x64 Linux is free and can be downloaded here:

http://www.nvidia.com/download/driverResults.aspx/101818/en-us

 

Or you can search here for something different:

http://www.nvidia.com/Download/Find.aspx?lang=en-us

 

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Sent: Friday, May 06, 2016 10:50 AM
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Subject: [PyMOL] Slow Pymol rendering

 

Dear all,

I recently upgraded to Debian 8 and I compiled the source code for pymol 
1.8.2.0. However, the graphics is really slow. The information that pymol 
prints out is as follows:

 Detected OpenGL version 2.0 or greater. Shaders available.
 Detected GLSL version 1.30.
 OpenGL graphics engine:
  GL_VENDOR:   nouveau
  GL_RENDERER: Gallium 0.4 on NVE7
  GL_VERSION:  3.0 Mesa 10.3.2
 Detected blacklisted graphics driver.  Disabling shaders.
 Detected 8 CPU cores.  Enabled multithreaded rendering.

I am not sure whether it is related to the driver of my graphics card. I have a 
NVIDIA Corporation GK107GLM [Quadro K1000M] but I failed to install the non 
free Nvidia driver. I instead used the open source nouveau.

I appreciate your inputs!

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Re: [PyMOL] Slow Pymol rendering

2016-05-06 Thread James Kress
The NVIDIA driver for x64 Linux is free and can be downloaded here:

http://www.nvidia.com/download/driverResults.aspx/101818/en-us

 

Or you can search here for something different:

http://www.nvidia.com/Download/Find.aspx?lang=en-us

 

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Sent: Friday, May 06, 2016 10:50 AM
To: pymol-users@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: [PyMOL] Slow Pymol rendering

 

Dear all,

I recently upgraded to Debian 8 and I compiled the source code for pymol 
1.8.2.0. However, the graphics is really slow. The information that pymol 
prints out is as follows:

 Detected OpenGL version 2.0 or greater. Shaders available.
 Detected GLSL version 1.30.
 OpenGL graphics engine:
  GL_VENDOR:   nouveau
  GL_RENDERER: Gallium 0.4 on NVE7
  GL_VERSION:  3.0 Mesa 10.3.2
 Detected blacklisted graphics driver.  Disabling shaders.
 Detected 8 CPU cores.  Enabled multithreaded rendering.

I am not sure whether it is related to the driver of my graphics card. I have a 
NVIDIA Corporation GK107GLM [Quadro K1000M] but I failed to install the non 
free Nvidia driver. I instead used the open source nouveau.

I appreciate your inputs!

Best,

Chen

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Re: [PyMOL] The Wiki appears outdated or in error

2016-04-02 Thread James Kress
Bob,

 

Thanks for the note.  The pdf files you generated were quite nice.  I just 
cannot get the quality of output you got using the PyMOL to dae to u3d to pdf 
path.  All I get are washed out colors.  No surface properties (shine, 
specular, etc.) at all.

 

PDF3DReportGen is the only software I have found that can give me close to the 
representation I need.  Even then, I have to use VMD, export to obj and then 
import to PDF3DReportGen to get good quality graphics.

 

Very discouraging.

 

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Sent: Saturday, April 02, 2016 1:14 AM
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<pymol-users@lists.sourceforge.net>
Subject: Re: [PyMOL] The Wiki appears outdated or in error

 

In case you are interested, Jim, Jmol will read (most/some) PyMOL session 
files, and Jmol can then create both an idtf for generating a u3d file, and a 
small sample TeX file also that can be used to create a PDF containing it. 

I had some interest in u3d back in 2009, when I wrote this exporter. You might 
be interested in my notes at the top of 
https://sourceforge.net/p/jmol/code/HEAD/tree/trunk/Jmol/src/org/jmol/export/_IdtfExporter.java
 

Here are a few examples created using Jmol: http://chemapps.stolaf.edu/jmol/u3d/

As I recall, the TeX file is necessary in order to properly reproduce the 
viewport state.


My conclusion was that u3d is an absolutely unmanageable file format. Its 
construction is totally obtuse, and the idtf->u3d converter has bugs that will 
probably never be fixed. I could be wrong, and in the intervening years it has 
improved, but my impression at the time was that it was an experimental format 
out of Adobe's research labs that never really made it and hasn't been 
developed much since then. 

Its inclusion in PDF file quite frankly takes the "P" out of "PDF."

Bob Hanson

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Re: [PyMOL] The Wiki appears outdated or in error

2016-04-01 Thread James Kress
Thanks.  It works much better.  I just wish I could find an alternative to
MeshLab.  The surfaces it generates in the u3d file are really poor.

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Subject: Re: [PyMOL] The Wiki appears outdated or in error

Hi Jim,

There is a beta version of Incentive PyMOL available for download from
http://pymol.org/download/1811/ (version 1.8.1.1 BETA).

Cheers,
  Thomas

On 29 Mar 2016, at 23:30, James Kress <jimkress...@kressworks.org> wrote:

> Does that mean it is in the pay version now?  If yes, how do I get it, 
> through the normal download link?
> 
> Jim
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> Subject: Re: [PyMOL] The Wiki appears outdated or in error
> 
> Hi Jared,
> 
> Thanks a lot for the patch. Applied to SVN rev 4154.
> 
> Cheers,
>  Thomas
> 
> On 25 Mar 2016, at 20:03, Sampson, Jared M. 
> <jms2...@cumc.columbia.edu>
> wrote:
> 
>> Hi Jim -
>> 
>> Here's a patch for Open Source PyMOL (rev4153) that adds the
> "collada_background_box" setting (default=0).  If you're using Open 
> Source PyMOL and are up to applying it and rebuilding, feel free to use
it.
> Otherwise, I already sent it to Thomas, so hopefully it will be 
> incorporated into SVN and Incentive PyMOL soon.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> Jared
>> 
>> --
>> Jared Sampson
>> Columbia University
>> 
>>> On Mar 24, 2016, at 2:26 PM, Sampson, Jared M.
> <jms2...@cumc.columbia.edu> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Jim -
>>> 
>>>> When I
>>>> 
>>>> set geometry_export_mode, 1
>>>> 
>>>> in PyMOL, then save myfile.dae, then import into MeshLab, MeshLab
hangs.
>>> 
>>> I can confirm that this happens for me, too.  I guess maybe Meshlab
> requires the camera?
>>> 
>>> As a workaround, you can go back to the previous version with
> collada_geometry_mode=1 and simply delete the box.  You can do this 
> within Meshlab by using the "Select Connected Components in a region" 
> tool to select a corner the box, then clicking the "Delete the current 
> set of selected faces and all the vertices surrounded by that faces" 
> button (see attached screenshot).  Then, if you zoom in (the box is 
> 100x larger than the largest dimension of the scene), your scene will be
there.
>>> 
>>> I'm working on a patch right now to exclude the bounding background 
>>> box
> from default COLLADA output and make it optional via a new 
> `collada_background_box` setting.
>>> 
>>> Sorry for the confusion, hope this clears it up.
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> Jared
>>> 
>>> --
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>>> Columbia University
>>> 
>> 
>> 
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Re: [PyMOL] The Wiki appears outdated or in error

2016-03-29 Thread James Kress
Does that mean it is in the pay version now?  If yes, how do I get it,
through the normal download link?

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Subject: Re: [PyMOL] The Wiki appears outdated or in error

Hi Jared,

Thanks a lot for the patch. Applied to SVN rev 4154.

Cheers,
  Thomas

On 25 Mar 2016, at 20:03, Sampson, Jared M. <jms2...@cumc.columbia.edu>
wrote:

> Hi Jim - 
> 
> Here's a patch for Open Source PyMOL (rev4153) that adds the
"collada_background_box" setting (default=0).  If you're using Open Source
PyMOL and are up to applying it and rebuilding, feel free to use it.
Otherwise, I already sent it to Thomas, so hopefully it will be incorporated
into SVN and Incentive PyMOL soon.
> 
> Cheers,
> Jared
> 
> --
> Jared Sampson
> Columbia University
> 
>> On Mar 24, 2016, at 2:26 PM, Sampson, Jared M.
<jms2...@cumc.columbia.edu> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Jim - 
>> 
>>> When I 
>>>  
>>> set geometry_export_mode, 1
>>>  
>>> in PyMOL, then save myfile.dae, then import into MeshLab, MeshLab hangs.
>> 
>> I can confirm that this happens for me, too.  I guess maybe Meshlab
requires the camera?
>> 
>> As a workaround, you can go back to the previous version with
collada_geometry_mode=1 and simply delete the box.  You can do this within
Meshlab by using the "Select Connected Components in a region" tool to
select a corner the box, then clicking the "Delete the current set of
selected faces and all the vertices surrounded by that faces" button (see
attached screenshot).  Then, if you zoom in (the box is 100x larger than the
largest dimension of the scene), your scene will be there.
>> 
>> I'm working on a patch right now to exclude the bounding background box
from default COLLADA output and make it optional via a new
`collada_background_box` setting.  
>> 
>> Sorry for the confusion, hope this clears it up.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> Jared
>> 
>> --
>> Jared Sampson
>> Columbia University
>> 
> 
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Re: [PyMOL] The Wiki appears outdated or in error

2016-03-25 Thread James Kress
Thanks!

 

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From: Sampson, Jared M. [mailto:jms2...@cumc.columbia.edu] 
Sent: Friday, March 25, 2016 3:03 PM
To: jimkress...@kressworks.org
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Subject: Re: [PyMOL] The Wiki appears outdated or in error

 

Hi Jim -  

 

Here's a patch for Open Source PyMOL (rev4153) that adds the
"collada_background_box" setting (default=0).  If you're using Open Source
PyMOL and are up to applying it and rebuilding, feel free to use it.
Otherwise, I already sent it to Thomas, so hopefully it will be incorporated
into SVN and Incentive PyMOL soon.

 

Cheers,

Jared

 

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Columbia University

 

On Mar 24, 2016, at 2:26 PM, Sampson, Jared M. <jms2...@cumc.columbia.edu
<mailto:jms2...@cumc.columbia.edu> > wrote:

 

Hi Jim -  

 

When I 

 

set geometry_export_mode, 1

 

in PyMOL, then save myfile.dae, then import into MeshLab, MeshLab hangs.

 

I can confirm that this happens for me, too.  I guess maybe Meshlab requires
the camera? 

 

As a workaround, you can go back to the previous version with
collada_geometry_mode=1 and simply delete the box.  You can do this within
Meshlab by using the "Select Connected Components in a region" tool to
select a corner the box, then clicking the "Delete the current set of
selected faces and all the vertices surrounded by that faces" button (see
attached screenshot).  Then, if you zoom in (the box is 100x larger than the
largest dimension of the scene), your scene will be there. 

 

I'm working on a patch right now to exclude the bounding background box from
default COLLADA output and make it optional via a new
`collada_background_box` setting.  

 

Sorry for the confusion, hope this clears it up.

 

Cheers,

Jared

 

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Re: [PyMOL] The Wiki appears outdated or in error

2016-03-24 Thread James Kress
Hi Jared,

 

Thanks for the information.  There was no screen shot attached, however.

 

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Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2016 2:26 PM
To: jimkress...@kressworks.org
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<pymol-users@lists.sourceforge.net>
Subject: Re: [PyMOL] The Wiki appears outdated or in error

 

Hi Jim -  

 

When I 

 

set geometry_export_mode, 1

 

in PyMOL, then save myfile.dae, then import into MeshLab, MeshLab hangs.

 

I can confirm that this happens for me, too.  I guess maybe Meshlab requires 
the camera? 

 

As a workaround, you can go back to the previous version with 
collada_geometry_mode=1 and simply delete the box.  You can do this within 
Meshlab by using the "Select Connected Components in a region" tool to select a 
corner the box, then clicking the "Delete the current set of selected faces and 
all the vertices surrounded by that faces" button (see attached screenshot).  
Then, if you zoom in (the box is 100x larger than the largest dimension of the 
scene), your scene will be there. 

 

I'm working on a patch right now to exclude the bounding background box from 
default COLLADA output and make it optional via a new `collada_background_box` 
setting.  

 

Sorry for the confusion, hope this clears it up.

 

Cheers,

Jared

 

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On Mar 24, 2016, at 1:05 PM, James Kress <jimkress...@kressworks.org 
<mailto:jimkress...@kressworks.org> > wrote:

 

Hi Jared,

 

When I 

 

set geometry_export_mode, 1

 

in PyMOL, then save myfile.dae, then import into MeshLab, MeshLab hangs.  Is 
there an alternative to MeshLab I can use to generate the u3d file?

 

Thanks.

 

Jim

 

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Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2016 10:53 PM
To: jimkress...@kressworks.org <mailto:jimkress...@kressworks.org> 
Cc: pymol-users <pymol-users@lists.sourceforge.net 
<mailto:pymol-users@lists.sourceforge.net> >
Subject: Re: [PyMOL] The Wiki appears outdated or in error

 

Hi Jim -  

 

This is something we've been talking about changing.  The entire scene as 
viewed within PyMOL is inside that block, including the camera position.   (The 
interior surface of the block itself provides the background color of the 
scene.)  Some viewers, e.g. Mac Preview.app, default to displaying from the 
camera position, but others, including MeshLab, don't, which is understandably 
confusing. 

 

To export only the geometry without any of the scene information, you can `set 
geometry_export_mode, 1` in PyMOL before saving the .dae.

 

Hope that helps!

 

Cheers,

Jared

 

P.S. if you are able to work out a protocol/workflow for generating 3D PDFs 
that is better than what's on the wiki, I hope you will consider updating the 
wiki to help others who might try it in the future.

 

Jared Sampson

Columbia University

 

On Mar 23, 2016, at 8:26 PM, James Kress < <mailto:jimkress...@kressworks.org> 
jimkress...@kressworks.org> wrote:

 

I installed v 1.8.0.6  

 

When I save ‘myfile.dae’ and then import into MeshLab, all I get is a solid 
gray block.

 

What do I need to do in PyMOL to export my DNA structure?

 

Thanks.

 

Jim

 

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Re: [PyMOL] The Wiki appears outdated or in error

2016-03-24 Thread James Kress
Hi Jared,

 

When I 

 

set geometry_export_mode, 1

 

in PyMOL, then save myfile.dae, then import into MeshLab, MeshLab hangs.  Is 
there an alternative to MeshLab I can use to generate the u3d file?

 

Thanks.

 

Jim

 

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An IRS Approved 501 (c)(3) Charitable, Nonprofit Organization

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(248) 605-8770

 

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To: jimkress...@kressworks.org
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Subject: Re: [PyMOL] The Wiki appears outdated or in error

 

Hi Jim -  

 

This is something we've been talking about changing.  The entire scene as 
viewed within PyMOL is inside that block, including the camera position.   (The 
interior surface of the block itself provides the background color of the 
scene.)  Some viewers, e.g. Mac Preview.app, default to displaying from the 
camera position, but others, including MeshLab, don't, which is understandably 
confusing. 

 

To export only the geometry without any of the scene information, you can `set 
geometry_export_mode, 1` in PyMOL before saving the .dae.

 

Hope that helps!

 

Cheers,

Jared

 

P.S. if you are able to work out a protocol/workflow for generating 3D PDFs 
that is better than what's on the wiki, I hope you will consider updating the 
wiki to help others who might try it in the future.

 

Jared Sampson

Columbia University

 

On Mar 23, 2016, at 8:26 PM, James Kress <jimkress...@kressworks.org 
<mailto:jimkress...@kressworks.org> > wrote:

 

I installed v 1.8.0.6  

 

When I save ‘myfile.dae’ and then import into MeshLab, all I get is a solid 
gray block.

 

What do I need to do in PyMOL to export my DNA structure?

 

Thanks.

 

Jim

 

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Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2016 1:40 PM
To: jimkress...@kressworks.org <mailto:jimkress...@kressworks.org> 
Cc: pymol-users <pymol-users@lists.sourceforge.net 
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Subject: Re: [PyMOL] The Wiki appears outdated or in error

 

Hi Jim -  

 

The COLLADA exporting code was incorporated into Open Source PyMOL starting 
with 1.7.3.2 (SVN 4097), but I'm not sure when it made it into Incentive PyMOL, 
so if that's what you're using, 1.7.4 might be just barely too early to have 
that capability.  You could try saving as VRML2, (`save myfile.wrl`) and use 
MeshLab to convert that instead of the COLLADA file--I think VRML output is 
more complete than IDTF.

 

Alternatively, you could install a more recent open source PyMOL using 
instructions available on the wiki:  
<http://www.pymolwiki.org/index.php/Category:Installation> 
http://www.pymolwiki.org/index.php/Category:Installation. 

 

Cheers,

Jared

 

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On Mar 21, 2016, at 5:46 PM, James Kress < <mailto:jimkress...@kressworks.org> 
jimkress...@kressworks.org> wrote:

 

Hi Jared,

 

The version of PyMOL I am using (1.7.4.0) does not recognize the dae file type. 
 

 

Here is the message PyMOL generates:

 

PyMOL>save output_no_H2O.dae

Save-Warning: Unrecognized file type -- defaulting to PDB format.

Save: wrote "output_no_H2O.dae".

 

I get the same error message if I use the command ‘save output_no_H2O.dae’

 

Jim

 

 

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An IRS Approved 501 (c)(3) Charitable, Nonprofit Organization

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Re: [PyMOL] The Wiki appears outdated or in error

2016-03-23 Thread James Kress
I installed v 1.8.0.6  

 

When I save ‘myfile.dae’ and then import into MeshLab, all I get is a solid 
gray block.

 

What do I need to do in PyMOL to export my DNA structure?

 

Thanks.

 

Jim

 

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An IRS Approved 501 (c)(3) Charitable, Nonprofit Organization

“Engineering The Cure” ©

(248) 605-8770

 

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Subject: Re: [PyMOL] The Wiki appears outdated or in error

 

Hi Jim -  

 

The COLLADA exporting code was incorporated into Open Source PyMOL starting 
with 1.7.3.2 (SVN 4097), but I'm not sure when it made it into Incentive PyMOL, 
so if that's what you're using, 1.7.4 might be just barely too early to have 
that capability.  You could try saving as VRML2, (`save myfile.wrl`) and use 
MeshLab to convert that instead of the COLLADA file--I think VRML output is 
more complete than IDTF.

 

Alternatively, you could install a more recent open source PyMOL using 
instructions available on the wiki: 
http://www.pymolwiki.org/index.php/Category:Installation. 

 

Cheers,

Jared

 

--

Jared Sampson

Columbia University

 

On Mar 21, 2016, at 5:46 PM, James Kress <jimkress...@kressworks.org 
<mailto:jimkress...@kressworks.org> > wrote:

 

Hi Jared,

 

The version of PyMOL I am using (1.7.4.0) does not recognize the dae file type. 
 

 

Here is the message PyMOL generates:

 

PyMOL>save output_no_H2O.dae

Save-Warning: Unrecognized file type -- defaulting to PDB format.

Save: wrote "output_no_H2O.dae".

 

I get the same error message if I use the command ‘save output_no_H2O.dae’

 

Jim

 

 

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An IRS Approved 501 (c)(3) Charitable, Nonprofit Organization

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Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2016 2:28 PM
To: jimkress...@kressworks.org <mailto:jimkress...@kressworks.org> 
Cc: pymol-users@lists.sourceforge.net 
<mailto:pymol-users@lists.sourceforge.net> 
Subject: Re: [PyMOL] The Wiki appears outdated or in error

 

Hi James -  

 

If I remember correctly, PyMOL's IDTF output currently only supports triangles 
meshes (not cylinders or spheres, e.g.), so unfortunately you're basically 
limited to surface representations for output directly into that format.   

 

As a workaround, you could try saving your scene in COLLADA format (`save 
myfile.dae`), and use an external program (e.g. Blender, Meshlab) to convert to 
IDTF or U3D.  When doing so, please note that you'll probably need to `set 
collada_geometry_mode=1` to specifically use the subset of COLLADA elements 
supported by those two programs (they only allow  elements to 
describe the triangles, which are a more general, verbose description than the 
more concise  and  output generated with the default 
setting).

 

Hope that helps.

 

Cheers,

Jared

 

-- 

Jared Sampson

Columbia University

 

On Mar 12, 2016, at 11:24 PM, James Kress < <mailto:jimkress...@kressworks.org> 
jimkress...@kressworks.org> wrote:

 

Among the export functions, a particular interest of mine is the as a

idtf file as "precursor" for a 3d pdf mentioned at

 

 <http://www.pymolwiki.org/index.php/3d_pdf> 
http://www.pymolwiki.org/index.php/3d_pdf

 

where I experience difficulties I want to address here.

 

   While the export via the CLI works fine for creating a *.png picture

or a VRML *.wrl-geometry, the similar export as *.idtf creates only a

header to describe the scenery, but not the (expected) s

Re: [PyMOL] The Wiki appears outdated or in error

2016-03-21 Thread James Kress
Hi Jared,

 

The version of PyMOL I am using (1.7.4.0) does not recognize the dae file type. 
 

 

Here is the message PyMOL generates:

 

PyMOL>save output_no_H2O.dae

Save-Warning: Unrecognized file type -- defaulting to PDB format.

Save: wrote "output_no_H2O.dae".

 

I get the same error message if I use the command ‘save output_no_H2O.dae’

 

Jim

 

 

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An IRS Approved 501 (c)(3) Charitable, Nonprofit Organization

“Engineering The Cure” ©

(248) 605-8770

 

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Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2016 2:28 PM
To: jimkress...@kressworks.org
Cc: pymol-users@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [PyMOL] The Wiki appears outdated or in error

 

Hi James -  

 

If I remember correctly, PyMOL's IDTF output currently only supports triangles 
meshes (not cylinders or spheres, e.g.), so unfortunately you're basically 
limited to surface representations for output directly into that format.   

 

As a workaround, you could try saving your scene in COLLADA format (`save 
myfile.dae`), and use an external program (e.g. Blender, Meshlab) to convert to 
IDTF or U3D.  When doing so, please note that you'll probably need to `set 
collada_geometry_mode=1` to specifically use the subset of COLLADA elements 
supported by those two programs (they only allow  elements to 
describe the triangles, which are a more general, verbose description than the 
more concise  and  output generated with the default 
setting).

 

Hope that helps.

 

Cheers,

Jared

 

-- 

Jared Sampson

Columbia University

 

On Mar 12, 2016, at 11:24 PM, James Kress <jimkress...@kressworks.org 
<mailto:jimkress...@kressworks.org> > wrote:

 

Among the export functions, a particular interest of mine is the as a

idtf file as "precursor" for a 3d pdf mentioned at

 

 <http://www.pymolwiki.org/index.php/3d_pdf> 
http://www.pymolwiki.org/index.php/3d_pdf

 

where I experience difficulties I want to address here.

 

   While the export via the CLI works fine for creating a *.png picture

or a VRML *.wrl-geometry, the similar export as *.idtf creates only a

header to describe the scenery, but not the (expected) spheres and tubes

to represent atoms and molecular bonds.  The file generated is the same,

regardless if I request the data export via

 

save /home/user directory/target directory/test.idtf

 

or the recommended

 

save /home/user directory/target directory/test.idtf,*

 

Marking/highlighting the molecule in question does not alter the situation.

 

   The relative orientation of the model in regard to the observer is

provided, however, in the programs command line, like

 

3Daac=20.0, 3Droll=0, 3Dc2c=0 0 1, 3Droo=50.00, 3Dcoo=0 0 -50.00

 

  In addition, there is no *.tex file written -- well in contrast to the

pymol-wiki page -- that I would expect to be created in the very same

directory, too.  (This is contrast to jmol offering export as *.idtf

while simultaneously writing a *.tex file, too.)  Should I look up in a

different directory instead?  May be a mistake during the installation

be a reason why I do not obtain (yet) a functional *.idtf?  Do I need to

load another / an additional plugin to enlarge the export functions?

 

Thanks.

 

Jim

 

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Re: [PyMOL] The Wiki appears outdated or in error

2016-03-18 Thread James Kress
HI Jared,

 

Thank you for your response.  I will give it a try!

 

Jim

 

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From: Sampson, Jared M. [mailto:jms2...@cumc.columbia.edu] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2016 2:28 PM
To: jimkress...@kressworks.org
Cc: pymol-users@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [PyMOL] The Wiki appears outdated or in error

 

Hi James -  

 

If I remember correctly, PyMOL's IDTF output currently only supports triangles 
meshes (not cylinders or spheres, e.g.), so unfortunately you're basically 
limited to surface representations for output directly into that format.   

 

As a workaround, you could try saving your scene in COLLADA format (`save 
myfile.dae`), and use an external program (e.g. Blender, Meshlab) to convert to 
IDTF or U3D.  When doing so, please note that you'll probably need to `set 
collada_geometry_mode=1` to specifically use the subset of COLLADA elements 
supported by those two programs (they only allow  elements to 
describe the triangles, which are a more general, verbose description than the 
more concise  and  output generated with the default 
setting).

 

Hope that helps.

 

Cheers,

Jared

 

-- 

Jared Sampson

Columbia University

 

On Mar 12, 2016, at 11:24 PM, James Kress <jimkress...@kressworks.org 
<mailto:jimkress...@kressworks.org> > wrote:

 

Among the export functions, a particular interest of mine is the as a

idtf file as "precursor" for a 3d pdf mentioned at

 

 <http://www.pymolwiki.org/index.php/3d_pdf> 
http://www.pymolwiki.org/index.php/3d_pdf

 

where I experience difficulties I want to address here.

 

   While the export via the CLI works fine for creating a *.png picture

or a VRML *.wrl-geometry, the similar export as *.idtf creates only a

header to describe the scenery, but not the (expected) spheres and tubes

to represent atoms and molecular bonds.  The file generated is the same,

regardless if I request the data export via

 

save /home/user directory/target directory/test.idtf

 

or the recommended

 

save /home/user directory/target directory/test.idtf,*

 

Marking/highlighting the molecule in question does not alter the situation.

 

   The relative orientation of the model in regard to the observer is

provided, however, in the programs command line, like

 

3Daac=20.0, 3Droll=0, 3Dc2c=0 0 1, 3Droo=50.00, 3Dcoo=0 0 -50.00

 

  In addition, there is no *.tex file written -- well in contrast to the

pymol-wiki page -- that I would expect to be created in the very same

directory, too.  (This is contrast to jmol offering export as *.idtf

while simultaneously writing a *.tex file, too.)  Should I look up in a

different directory instead?  May be a mistake during the installation

be a reason why I do not obtain (yet) a functional *.idtf?  Do I need to

load another / an additional plugin to enlarge the export functions?

 

Thanks.

 

Jim

 

James Kress Ph.D., President

The KressWorks® Foundation 

An IRS Approved 501 (c)(3) Charitable, Nonprofit Organization

“Engineering The Cure” ©

(248) 605-8770

 

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[PyMOL] IDTF and tex files

2016-03-13 Thread James Kress
I finally got an IDTF file but no pymol.tex file.  Why no tex file, is PYMOL
IDTF still limited to cartoons only and if so, are there any plans to go
beyond that?

 

Thanks.

 

Jim

 

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[PyMOL] The Wiki appears outdated or in error

2016-03-12 Thread James Kress
Among the export functions, a particular interest of mine is the as a

idtf file as "precursor" for a 3d pdf mentioned at

 

http://www.pymolwiki.org/index.php/3d_pdf

 

where I experience difficulties I want to address here.

 

   While the export via the CLI works fine for creating a *.png picture

or a VRML *.wrl-geometry, the similar export as *.idtf creates only a

header to describe the scenery, but not the (expected) spheres and tubes

to represent atoms and molecular bonds.  The file generated is the same,

regardless if I request the data export via

 

save /home/user directory/target directory/test.idtf

 

or the recommended

 

save /home/user directory/target directory/test.idtf,*

 

Marking/highlighting the molecule in question does not alter the situation.

 

   The relative orientation of the model in regard to the observer is

provided, however, in the programs command line, like

 

3Daac=20.0, 3Droll=0, 3Dc2c=0 0 1, 3Droo=50.00, 3Dcoo=0 0 -50.00

 

  In addition, there is no *.tex file written -- well in contrast to the

pymol-wiki page -- that I would expect to be created in the very same

directory, too.  (This is contrast to jmol offering export as *.idtf

while simultaneously writing a *.tex file, too.)  Should I look up in a

different directory instead?  May be a mistake during the installation

be a reason why I do not obtain (yet) a functional *.idtf?  Do I need to

load another / an additional plugin to enlarge the export functions?

 

Thanks.

 

Jim

 

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