Re: [Qgis-developer] fTools and GdalTools: sextante vs original plugins

2013-04-17 Thread Paolo Cavallini
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Il 17/04/2013 07:42, Anita Graser ha scritto:

 I see. So you'd suggest to keep only Sextante code (where duplicates exist!) 
 but
 provide shortcuts from the menu? I'd +1 that. 
 I've been testing a variety of functions in the menus and in Sextante over 
 the last
 days and there are always some broken ones. Neither package is without 
 major bugs
 today.
 We need to get it together for 2.0 and that's easier if we can focus on one.

Hi all.
My proposal:
* leave the duplication for 2.0
* go towards removing it for 2.1, *only* when a full testing framework is in 
place,
and we are *sure* everythiong is working properly
* leave shortcuts for the most commonly used functions (maybe a poll can help 
here),
and possibly an option add to shortcut menu for the user
* leave the commandline available for the programs that allow running it 
straight
away (gdal, grass, saga, ?), so users can reuse them in scripts etc.
All the best.
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Re: [Qgis-developer] [Discussion] Repository and Plugin idea for Google Summer of Code

2013-04-17 Thread Paolo Cavallini
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Il 17/04/2013 07:50, arunthe...@gmail.com ha scritto:

 I might have missed a few obvious points. Kindly discuss and help to improve 
 the
 idea. Thank you.

Seems a good plan, thanks a lot.
All the best.
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Re: [Qgis-developer] fTools and GdalTools: sextante vs original plugins

2013-04-17 Thread Mathieu Pellerin
Anita, yep, remove code for ftool functions that are in sextante but keep
vector menu shortcuts.
On 17 Apr 2013 12:42, Anita Graser anitagra...@gmx.at wrote:

 On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 3:19 AM, Mathieu Pellerin nirvn.a...@gmail.comwrote:

 There might be a way to make most people happy here.

 I find the vector menu a nice ui shortcut for useful functions. If
 sextante relevant functions are at par (or better), couldn't the vector
 menu items stay, which would please many, and when clicked triggers
 sextante's function dialogue? Victor? Same thing could happen with vector
 menu too. Sextante's analysis toolbar is super useful but might be a
 throwback for some if vector / raster menu functions disappear.

 On human resource (coders and testers) and maintenance angles, keeping to
 mechanism to do same thing is an obvious waste.

 I see. So you'd suggest to keep only Sextante code (where duplicates
 exist!) but provide shortcuts from the menu? I'd +1 that.
 I've been testing a variety of functions in the menus and in Sextante over
 the last days and there are always some broken ones. Neither package is
 without major bugs today.
 We need to get it together for 2.0 and that's easier if we can focus on
 one.

 Best wishes,
 Anita



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Re: [Qgis-developer] fTools and GdalTools: sextante vs original plugins

2013-04-17 Thread Mathieu Pellerin
Paolo, imo decision of looking into this option for 2.0 vs 2.1 should be
primarily driven by quality. If qgis can offer better  quality in vector
functions by maintaining the two mechanism for 2.0 then it should be
deferred to 2.1. If the opposite is true, then might be worth for Victor to
weight in and state whether such proposal can be achieved for 2.0.

M
On 17 Apr 2013 13:14, Paolo Cavallini cavall...@faunalia.it wrote:

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 Il 17/04/2013 07:42, Anita Graser ha scritto:

  I see. So you'd suggest to keep only Sextante code (where duplicates
 exist!) but
  provide shortcuts from the menu? I'd +1 that.
  I've been testing a variety of functions in the menus and in Sextante
 over the last
  days and there are always some broken ones. Neither package is without
 major bugs
  today.
  We need to get it together for 2.0 and that's easier if we can focus on
 one.

 Hi all.
 My proposal:
 * leave the duplication for 2.0
 * go towards removing it for 2.1, *only* when a full testing framework is
 in place,
 and we are *sure* everythiong is working properly
 * leave shortcuts for the most commonly used functions (maybe a poll can
 help here),
 and possibly an option add to shortcut menu for the user
 * leave the commandline available for the programs that allow running it
 straight
 away (gdal, grass, saga, ?), so users can reuse them in scripts etc.
 All the best.
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Re: [Qgis-developer] fTools and GdalTools: sextante vs original plugins

2013-04-17 Thread Alexander Bruy
Hi,

personally I think that we should leave only SEXTANTE but first need
to implement all missed functionality.

On Tue, 16 Apr 2013 09:34:13 -0700 (PDT)
Anita Graser anitagra...@gmx.at wrote:

 In case of GDAL tools, I see the advantage of being able to copy the GDAL
 code.

Agreed, having such functionality in SEXTANTE will be great and not only for 
GDAL but for all command-line tools. And AFAIK something
already here — executed commands available in history manager.

Regarding keeping menu entries, maybe it is better to allow users create own 
groups in SEXTANTE toolbox and populate them with various
tools?

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Re: [Qgis-developer] [Discussion] Repository and Plugin idea for Google Summer of Code

2013-04-17 Thread Alexander Bruy
Hi

On Wed, 17 Apr 2013 11:20:36 +0530
arunthe...@gmail.com arunthe...@gmail.com wrote:

 3. The base URL for the remote server can be kept changeable in the
 application options, so organizations can point it to their servers.

Maybe it is better to allow enter several URL's at once like in
Plugin installer?

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Re: [Qgis-developer] Icon theme update

2013-04-17 Thread Alexander Bruy
Hi Larry,

On Tue, 16 Apr 2013 09:27:44 -0600
Larry Shaffer lar...@dakotacarto.com wrote:

 I looked through the number of screen captures and icons in the current
 documentation and training manual repos to see how much work it would be to
 migrate to the new icon set (obviously not an option for a book). It looked
 like a considerable amount of work; enough so that I noticed there are
 still screen snaps from much older versions.

But current documentation is for QGIS 1.8, so I think this is not
big issue.

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Re: [Qgis-developer] fTools and GdalTools: sextante vs original plugins

2013-04-17 Thread Victor Olaya
Bernhard

I am sorry to hear about your bad experience. Could you detail a bit
more about what you are doing (algorithms you are running, etc)?.
PostGIS layers should work without problems, but I have recently fixed
a problem with PostGIS when using SAGA algorithms, so there might be
other issues like that.

If you want, you can send me your layers and model, so I can have a
look and try to find out what is happening

Many thanks for your collaboration (and patience)

Victor


2013/4/17 Bernhard Ströbl bernhard.stro...@jena.de:
 Hi all,

 for a course I am about to give tomorrow I played a bit with SEXTANTE,
 although I am going to teach geoprocessing with fTools (we are using QGIS
 1.8). It was my first go with SEXTANTE and I was about to show what it will
 offer in the future. Therefore I built a small model with three input layers
 a buffer and two overlay operations. I did not succeed in running the model
 so I tried in current master.
 As it currently is SEXTANTE is not operable for me (or I am doing it wrong):
 First message is Layers do not all use the same CRS although they
 definitely do and the same EPSG-code is noted in square brackets behind each
 layer name!? Second I get an Error executing algorithm... it seems as
 SEXTANTE cannot use PostGIS layers as input (when I save them as shape files
 the model runs perfectly), this is a big limitation as my institution stores
 almost everything in PostGIS. (SEXTANTE should not offer PostGIS layers to
 choose as input layers then).

 Well, this was a very disappointing experience because additionally QGIS was
 frozen two or three times opening or closing the model. I do not want to
 complain, all I want is to ask for keeping fTools as they are until SEXTANTE
 can _really_ replace them in all aspects. Then we should remove the vector
 menue completely because I agree that finding the tool you are looking for
 is a lot easier in SEXTANTE.

 my 2 cents

 Bernhard

 Am 17.04.2013 07:42, schrieb Anita Graser:

 On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 3:19 AM, Mathieu Pellerin nirvn.a...@gmail.com
 mailto:nirvn.a...@gmail.com wrote:

 There might be a way to make most people happy here.

 I find the vector menu a nice ui shortcut for useful functions. If
 sextante relevant functions are at par (or better), couldn't the
 vector menu items stay, which would please many, and when clicked
 triggers sextante's function dialogue? Victor? Same thing could
 happen with vector menu too. Sextante's analysis toolbar is super
 useful but might be a throwback for some if vector / raster menu
 functions disappear.

 On human resource (coders and testers) and maintenance angles,
 keeping to mechanism to do same thing is an obvious waste.

 I see. So you'd suggest to keep only Sextante code (where duplicates
 exist!) but provide shortcuts from the menu? I'd +1 that.
 I've been testing a variety of functions in the menus and in Sextante
 over the last days and there are always some broken ones. Neither
 package is without major bugs today.
 We need to get it together for 2.0 and that's easier if we can focus on
 one.

 Best wishes,
 Anita



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Re: [Qgis-developer] fTools and GdalTools: sextante vs original plugins

2013-04-17 Thread Bernhard Ströbl

Hi Victor,

thank you for your quick reply and even more for all the work you are 
doing for SEXTANTE. If it is operable (and I am sure, it will be) 
SEXTANTE will be a big step forward for QGIS!
I am going to send you the model an layers (as shape files, you need to 
import two of them into PostGIS) in a PM. SAGA is not installed on my 
machine.


Bernhard

Am 17.04.2013 09:24, schrieb Victor Olaya:

Bernhard

I am sorry to hear about your bad experience. Could you detail a bit
more about what you are doing (algorithms you are running, etc)?.
PostGIS layers should work without problems, but I have recently fixed
a problem with PostGIS when using SAGA algorithms, so there might be
other issues like that.

If you want, you can send me your layers and model, so I can have a
look and try to find out what is happening

Many thanks for your collaboration (and patience)

Victor


2013/4/17 Bernhard Ströblbernhard.stro...@jena.de:

Hi all,

for a course I am about to give tomorrow I played a bit with SEXTANTE,
although I am going to teach geoprocessing with fTools (we are using QGIS
1.8). It was my first go with SEXTANTE and I was about to show what it will
offer in the future. Therefore I built a small model with three input layers
a buffer and two overlay operations. I did not succeed in running the model
so I tried in current master.
As it currently is SEXTANTE is not operable for me (or I am doing it wrong):
First message is Layers do not all use the same CRS although they
definitely do and the same EPSG-code is noted in square brackets behind each
layer name!? Second I get an Error executing algorithm... it seems as
SEXTANTE cannot use PostGIS layers as input (when I save them as shape files
the model runs perfectly), this is a big limitation as my institution stores
almost everything in PostGIS. (SEXTANTE should not offer PostGIS layers to
choose as input layers then).

Well, this was a very disappointing experience because additionally QGIS was
frozen two or three times opening or closing the model. I do not want to
complain, all I want is to ask for keeping fTools as they are until SEXTANTE
can _really_ replace them in all aspects. Then we should remove the vector
menue completely because I agree that finding the tool you are looking for
is a lot easier in SEXTANTE.

my 2 cents

Bernhard

Am 17.04.2013 07:42, schrieb Anita Graser:


On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 3:19 AM, Mathieu Pellerinnirvn.a...@gmail.com
mailto:nirvn.a...@gmail.com  wrote:

 There might be a way to make most people happy here.

 I find the vector menu a nice ui shortcut for useful functions. If
 sextante relevant functions are at par (or better), couldn't the
 vector menu items stay, which would please many, and when clicked
 triggers sextante's function dialogue? Victor? Same thing could
 happen with vector menu too. Sextante's analysis toolbar is super
 useful but might be a throwback for some if vector / raster menu
 functions disappear.

 On human resource (coders and testers) and maintenance angles,
 keeping to mechanism to do same thing is an obvious waste.

I see. So you'd suggest to keep only Sextante code (where duplicates
exist!) but provide shortcuts from the menu? I'd +1 that.
I've been testing a variety of functions in the menus and in Sextante
over the last days and there are always some broken ones. Neither
package is without major bugs today.
We need to get it together for 2.0 and that's easier if we can focus on
one.

Best wishes,
Anita




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Re: [Qgis-developer] fTools and GdalTools: sextante vs original plugins

2013-04-17 Thread Victor Olaya
I like the idea of allowing menu entries to be defined from SEXTANTE
algorithms, as a shortcut to them. If we agree on that, I could start
working on it.

Thanks everyone for you ideas!

Cheers
Victor

2013/4/17 Bernhard Ströbl bernhard.stro...@jena.de:
 Hi all,

 for a course I am about to give tomorrow I played a bit with SEXTANTE,
 although I am going to teach geoprocessing with fTools (we are using QGIS
 1.8). It was my first go with SEXTANTE and I was about to show what it will
 offer in the future. Therefore I built a small model with three input layers
 a buffer and two overlay operations. I did not succeed in running the model
 so I tried in current master.
 As it currently is SEXTANTE is not operable for me (or I am doing it wrong):
 First message is Layers do not all use the same CRS although they
 definitely do and the same EPSG-code is noted in square brackets behind each
 layer name!? Second I get an Error executing algorithm... it seems as
 SEXTANTE cannot use PostGIS layers as input (when I save them as shape files
 the model runs perfectly), this is a big limitation as my institution stores
 almost everything in PostGIS. (SEXTANTE should not offer PostGIS layers to
 choose as input layers then).

 Well, this was a very disappointing experience because additionally QGIS was
 frozen two or three times opening or closing the model. I do not want to
 complain, all I want is to ask for keeping fTools as they are until SEXTANTE
 can _really_ replace them in all aspects. Then we should remove the vector
 menue completely because I agree that finding the tool you are looking for
 is a lot easier in SEXTANTE.

 my 2 cents

 Bernhard

 Am 17.04.2013 07:42, schrieb Anita Graser:

 On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 3:19 AM, Mathieu Pellerin nirvn.a...@gmail.com
 mailto:nirvn.a...@gmail.com wrote:

 There might be a way to make most people happy here.

 I find the vector menu a nice ui shortcut for useful functions. If
 sextante relevant functions are at par (or better), couldn't the
 vector menu items stay, which would please many, and when clicked
 triggers sextante's function dialogue? Victor? Same thing could
 happen with vector menu too. Sextante's analysis toolbar is super
 useful but might be a throwback for some if vector / raster menu
 functions disappear.

 On human resource (coders and testers) and maintenance angles,
 keeping to mechanism to do same thing is an obvious waste.

 I see. So you'd suggest to keep only Sextante code (where duplicates
 exist!) but provide shortcuts from the menu? I'd +1 that.
 I've been testing a variety of functions in the menus and in Sextante
 over the last days and there are always some broken ones. Neither
 package is without major bugs today.
 We need to get it together for 2.0 and that's easier if we can focus on
 one.

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Re: [Qgis-developer] wrong transformation of project on qgis 1.9.0

2013-04-17 Thread Andrea Peri
thx,

I fill a ticket with a sample to show the issue.

http://hub.qgis.org/issues/7630

Reganrds,



2013/4/17 Martin Dobias wonder...@gmail.com

 On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 11:41 PM, Andrea Peri aperi2...@gmail.com wrote:
  Hi,
 
  I have a 1.8.0 qgis project and try to open with the new qgis-dev
 version of
  qgis.
  To see how much compatible it will be with the next released version of
  qgis.
  Unfortunately I see it is pretty drammatically unusable.
 
  Infact In the old project I have many projects where often the layers
 are
  rendered with a unique value style of old symbology.
 
  The reason to have used the unique value rendering is that it allow the
  usage of the empty value as a conditional all the other values.
  And this is a must in the rendering in our usages.
 
  But when I tryed to load this project with the new qgis dev I see that it
  change from the unique value to the categorized style.
  What a wrong choice !
  Infact it don't allow the use of empty as all the other but use the
 empty
  as only empty value :)
 
  So I see all our objects simply disappeared from our project.

 Please file a bug report and attach a sample project.

 Btw. the unique value renderer in old symbology is equivalent to
 categorized renderer in new symbology. It is not clear to me what is
 actually wrong with that. Maybe just a terminology problem? (it has
 been suggested once or twice to do some renaming of new symbology
 renderers, but I am not sure if any consensus was found).

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Re: [Qgis-developer] fTools and GdalTools: sextante vs original plugins

2013-04-17 Thread Filipe Dias
I agree with allowing the user to define some Menu entries. As an end user
I'd rather have all Analytical tools in one place, but this would allow
people to not loose their habit of calling some more commonly used tools
(I agree with Paolo, a poll with be good) from the Menu.

Sextante is more stable in the areas where there more users. This can only
be solved if more people step in for testing or when the full testing suite
is completed. In any case, Sextante is the single most powerfull GIS
analysis tool out there, including proprietary software. It's a huge
undertaking and it is being carried by very few people. I wish there were
more people contributing to the code and testing it.


On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 8:49 AM, Victor Olaya vola...@gmail.com wrote:

 I like the idea of allowing menu entries to be defined from SEXTANTE
 algorithms, as a shortcut to them. If we agree on that, I could start
 working on it.

 Thanks everyone for you ideas!

 Cheers
 Victor

 2013/4/17 Bernhard Ströbl bernhard.stro...@jena.de:
  Hi all,
 
  for a course I am about to give tomorrow I played a bit with SEXTANTE,
  although I am going to teach geoprocessing with fTools (we are using QGIS
  1.8). It was my first go with SEXTANTE and I was about to show what it
 will
  offer in the future. Therefore I built a small model with three input
 layers
  a buffer and two overlay operations. I did not succeed in running the
 model
  so I tried in current master.
  As it currently is SEXTANTE is not operable for me (or I am doing it
 wrong):
  First message is Layers do not all use the same CRS although they
  definitely do and the same EPSG-code is noted in square brackets behind
 each
  layer name!? Second I get an Error executing algorithm... it seems as
  SEXTANTE cannot use PostGIS layers as input (when I save them as shape
 files
  the model runs perfectly), this is a big limitation as my institution
 stores
  almost everything in PostGIS. (SEXTANTE should not offer PostGIS layers
 to
  choose as input layers then).
 
  Well, this was a very disappointing experience because additionally QGIS
 was
  frozen two or three times opening or closing the model. I do not want to
  complain, all I want is to ask for keeping fTools as they are until
 SEXTANTE
  can _really_ replace them in all aspects. Then we should remove the
 vector
  menue completely because I agree that finding the tool you are looking
 for
  is a lot easier in SEXTANTE.
 
  my 2 cents
 
  Bernhard
 
  Am 17.04.2013 07:42, schrieb Anita Graser:
 
  On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 3:19 AM, Mathieu Pellerin nirvn.a...@gmail.com
  mailto:nirvn.a...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  There might be a way to make most people happy here.
 
  I find the vector menu a nice ui shortcut for useful functions. If
  sextante relevant functions are at par (or better), couldn't the
  vector menu items stay, which would please many, and when clicked
  triggers sextante's function dialogue? Victor? Same thing could
  happen with vector menu too. Sextante's analysis toolbar is super
  useful but might be a throwback for some if vector / raster menu
  functions disappear.
 
  On human resource (coders and testers) and maintenance angles,
  keeping to mechanism to do same thing is an obvious waste.
 
  I see. So you'd suggest to keep only Sextante code (where duplicates
  exist!) but provide shortcuts from the menu? I'd +1 that.
  I've been testing a variety of functions in the menus and in Sextante
  over the last days and there are always some broken ones. Neither
  package is without major bugs today.
  We need to get it together for 2.0 and that's easier if we can focus on
  one.
 
  Best wishes,
  Anita
 
 
 
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[Qgis-developer] How to see log/debug messages in Osgeo4W installer(qgis-dev)

2013-04-17 Thread vinayan
Hi,

I have an osgeo4w installed Qgis 1.9 in windows xp. Is there any way i can
see the log console?

When i used to run in it from ubuntu build, the './qgis' command used to
show all messages in the terminal? can something similar be done using the
osego4w install?

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Re: [Qgis-developer] [Qgis-user] How define the other condition on a classification render

2013-04-17 Thread Alexandre Neto
You should be.

I tested myself and I believe you found a bug.

You should be able to add a new class without any value, and all values
outside the existing categories should be rendered with that symbology.
Thats how it works in 1.8.

I'm not being able to open qgis.org (probably is under maintenance), but if
there is no issue ticket for this problem, we should create one.

Alexandre Neto



On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 10:15 PM, Andrea Peri aperi2...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi,

 I'm using the qgis-dev version of qgis.
 Is possible to define the 'other values' condition in the
 categorized style ?

 Thx

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Re: [Qgis-developer] [Qgis-user] How define the other condition on a classification render

2013-04-17 Thread Andrea Peri
Hi,

I have fill a ticket with a sample to show how  a map of qgis 1.8.0 if lost
on a qgis 1.9.0 after an import.

http://hub.qgis.org/issues/7630




2013/4/17 Alexandre Neto senhor.n...@gmail.com

 You should be.

 I tested myself and I believe you found a bug.

 You should be able to add a new class without any value, and all values
 outside the existing categories should be rendered with that symbology.
 Thats how it works in 1.8.

 I'm not being able to open qgis.org (probably is under maintenance), but
 if there is no issue ticket for this problem, we should create one.

 Alexandre Neto



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 Hi,

 I'm using the qgis-dev version of qgis.
 Is possible to define the 'other values' condition in the
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 Thx

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Re: [Qgis-developer] [Discussion] Repository and Plugin idea for Google Summer of Code

2013-04-17 Thread arunthe...@gmail.com
On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 12:35 PM, Alexander Bruy
alexander.b...@gmail.comwrote:


 Maybe it is better to allow enter several URL's at once like in
 Plugin installer?



Yes. A better way to do. I already see a use case,  get symbol from a
central repository (eg QGIS official) and have the scripts/models from the
local repository (organisation localhost)

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Re: [Qgis-developer] How to see log/debug messages in Osgeo4W installer(qgis-dev)

2013-04-17 Thread Tim Sutton
Hi

On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 4:16 PM, vinayan vinayan...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi,

 I have an osgeo4w installed Qgis 1.9 in windows xp. Is there any way i can
 see the log console?

 When i used to run in it from ubuntu build, the './qgis' command used to
 show all messages in the terminal? can something similar be done using the
 osego4w install?


Try setting the following env vars in system properties:

QGIS_DEBUG 1
QGIS_LOG_FILE c:\blahblhablha.log

(Untested by me)

Tim

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Re: [Qgis-developer] [Discussion] Repository and Plugin idea for Google Summer of Code

2013-04-17 Thread Borys Jurgiel
Dnia środa, 17 kwietnia 2013 o 09:05:14 Alexander Bruy napisał(a):
 Hi
 
 On Wed, 17 Apr 2013 11:20:36 +0530
 
 arunthe...@gmail.com arunthe...@gmail.com wrote:
  3. The base URL for the remote server can be kept changeable in the
  application options, so organizations can point it to their servers.
 
 Maybe it is better to allow enter several URL's at once like in
 Plugin installer?

Exactly. We're just working with Alex on refactored plugin installer and I 
still think about some reusable widgets and logic. Unfortunately I see too 
many differences between plugins and 'static' stuff to make it as closely 
unified 
as I wish. The present Manager uses QgsDetailedItemDelegate for the plugin 
list items. I'd love to modify it to something like in KDE installers:

http://docs.kde.org/stable/en/kde-runtime/kcontrol/icons/get-new-theme.png

But actually it seems to be much more appropriate for styles than for plugins, 
where I incline to a simple list + a html area with metadata.

http://tmp.borysjurgiel.pl/manager.png

Anyway, now we're trying to manage to make changes necessary to merge the 
installer into manager in this very short time left to 2.0 freeze, so guess 
there is not enough time to discuss unified look and feel now. We have to to 
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Re: [Qgis-developer] How to see log/debug messages in Osgeo4W installer(qgis-dev)

2013-04-17 Thread Jürgen E . Fischer
Hi Vinayan,

On Wed, 17. Apr 2013 at 02:16:03 -0700, vinayan wrote:
 I have an osgeo4w installed Qgis 1.9 in windows xp. Is there any way i can
 see the log console?

 When i used to run in it from ubuntu build, the './qgis' command used to
 show all messages in the terminal? can something similar be done using the
 osego4w install?

Your own ubuntu builds?  I think the packages are built without QGISDEBUG, so
no debug output there either.

Anyway, on windows the output goes to the debugger - without a debugger you can
see the debugging output with DebugView[1] and the qgis-dev package is built
with QGISDEBUG.


Jürgen


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Re: [Qgis-developer] How to see log/debug messages in Osgeo4W installer(qgis-dev)

2013-04-17 Thread vinayan
Hi Tim,

It caused a crash when i started the application. It created an empty log
though in the specified log path.
I was hoping there would be a live console



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Re: [Qgis-developer] fTools and GdalTools: sextante vs original plugins

2013-04-17 Thread Bernhard Ströbl

Hi all,

just want to inform you that Victor was able to solve my two problems. 
Number 1 (CRS missmatch) was kinda my fault (or let's say the fault of a 
former QGIS version where my project originally was created in: QGIS did 
compare proj4 definition and picked the first CRS the definition of the 
layer matched. As EPSG:31464 and EPSG:31468 have the same proj4 
definition but the first is deprecated it was chosen, although my layer 
is defined as EPSG:31468 in geometry_columns)

Number 2 (no PostGIS suppport) was fixed in master

Bernhard

Am 17.04.2013 09:24, schrieb Victor Olaya:

Bernhard

I am sorry to hear about your bad experience. Could you detail a bit
more about what you are doing (algorithms you are running, etc)?.
PostGIS layers should work without problems, but I have recently fixed
a problem with PostGIS when using SAGA algorithms, so there might be
other issues like that.

If you want, you can send me your layers and model, so I can have a
look and try to find out what is happening

Many thanks for your collaboration (and patience)

Victor


2013/4/17 Bernhard Ströblbernhard.stro...@jena.de:

Hi all,

for a course I am about to give tomorrow I played a bit with SEXTANTE,
although I am going to teach geoprocessing with fTools (we are using QGIS
1.8). It was my first go with SEXTANTE and I was about to show what it will
offer in the future. Therefore I built a small model with three input layers
a buffer and two overlay operations. I did not succeed in running the model
so I tried in current master.
As it currently is SEXTANTE is not operable for me (or I am doing it wrong):
First message is Layers do not all use the same CRS although they
definitely do and the same EPSG-code is noted in square brackets behind each
layer name!? Second I get an Error executing algorithm... it seems as
SEXTANTE cannot use PostGIS layers as input (when I save them as shape files
the model runs perfectly), this is a big limitation as my institution stores
almost everything in PostGIS. (SEXTANTE should not offer PostGIS layers to
choose as input layers then).

Well, this was a very disappointing experience because additionally QGIS was
frozen two or three times opening or closing the model. I do not want to
complain, all I want is to ask for keeping fTools as they are until SEXTANTE
can _really_ replace them in all aspects. Then we should remove the vector
menue completely because I agree that finding the tool you are looking for
is a lot easier in SEXTANTE.

my 2 cents

Bernhard

Am 17.04.2013 07:42, schrieb Anita Graser:


On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 3:19 AM, Mathieu Pellerinnirvn.a...@gmail.com
mailto:nirvn.a...@gmail.com  wrote:

 There might be a way to make most people happy here.

 I find the vector menu a nice ui shortcut for useful functions. If
 sextante relevant functions are at par (or better), couldn't the
 vector menu items stay, which would please many, and when clicked
 triggers sextante's function dialogue? Victor? Same thing could
 happen with vector menu too. Sextante's analysis toolbar is super
 useful but might be a throwback for some if vector / raster menu
 functions disappear.

 On human resource (coders and testers) and maintenance angles,
 keeping to mechanism to do same thing is an obvious waste.

I see. So you'd suggest to keep only Sextante code (where duplicates
exist!) but provide shortcuts from the menu? I'd +1 that.
I've been testing a variety of functions in the menus and in Sextante
over the last days and there are always some broken ones. Neither
package is without major bugs today.
We need to get it together for 2.0 and that's easier if we can focus on
one.

Best wishes,
Anita




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Re: [Qgis-developer] [Qgis-user] [Qgis-psc] Logo

2013-04-17 Thread Borys Jurgiel
  If I could draw cartoons, we'd have Quentin the Qgis Quokka:
 
 http://a-z-animals.com/animals/quokka/

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Re: [Qgis-developer] fTools and GdalTools: sextante vs original plugins

2013-04-17 Thread Victor Olaya
Bernard's problem was related with using non-file layers in the
modeler. It was a very easy fix, so please, everyone that's using
SEXTANTE, share your problems so we can work on them and make the
software more stable. :-)

Thanks in advance!

2013/4/17 Bernhard Ströbl bernhard.stro...@jena.de:
 Hi all,

 just want to inform you that Victor was able to solve my two problems.
 Number 1 (CRS missmatch) was kinda my fault (or let's say the fault of a
 former QGIS version where my project originally was created in: QGIS did
 compare proj4 definition and picked the first CRS the definition of the
 layer matched. As EPSG:31464 and EPSG:31468 have the same proj4 definition
 but the first is deprecated it was chosen, although my layer is defined as
 EPSG:31468 in geometry_columns)
 Number 2 (no PostGIS suppport) was fixed in master


 Bernhard

 Am 17.04.2013 09:24, schrieb Victor Olaya:

 Bernhard


 I am sorry to hear about your bad experience. Could you detail a bit
 more about what you are doing (algorithms you are running, etc)?.
 PostGIS layers should work without problems, but I have recently fixed
 a problem with PostGIS when using SAGA algorithms, so there might be
 other issues like that.

 If you want, you can send me your layers and model, so I can have a
 look and try to find out what is happening

 Many thanks for your collaboration (and patience)

 Victor


 2013/4/17 Bernhard Ströblbernhard.stro...@jena.de:

 Hi all,

 for a course I am about to give tomorrow I played a bit with SEXTANTE,
 although I am going to teach geoprocessing with fTools (we are using QGIS
 1.8). It was my first go with SEXTANTE and I was about to show what it
 will
 offer in the future. Therefore I built a small model with three input
 layers
 a buffer and two overlay operations. I did not succeed in running the
 model
 so I tried in current master.
 As it currently is SEXTANTE is not operable for me (or I am doing it
 wrong):
 First message is Layers do not all use the same CRS although they
 definitely do and the same EPSG-code is noted in square brackets behind
 each
 layer name!? Second I get an Error executing algorithm... it seems as
 SEXTANTE cannot use PostGIS layers as input (when I save them as shape
 files
 the model runs perfectly), this is a big limitation as my institution
 stores
 almost everything in PostGIS. (SEXTANTE should not offer PostGIS layers
 to
 choose as input layers then).

 Well, this was a very disappointing experience because additionally QGIS
 was
 frozen two or three times opening or closing the model. I do not want to
 complain, all I want is to ask for keeping fTools as they are until
 SEXTANTE
 can _really_ replace them in all aspects. Then we should remove the
 vector
 menue completely because I agree that finding the tool you are looking
 for
 is a lot easier in SEXTANTE.

 my 2 cents

 Bernhard

 Am 17.04.2013 07:42, schrieb Anita Graser:


 On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 3:19 AM, Mathieu Pellerinnirvn.a...@gmail.com
 mailto:nirvn.a...@gmail.com  wrote:

  There might be a way to make most people happy here.

  I find the vector menu a nice ui shortcut for useful functions. If
  sextante relevant functions are at par (or better), couldn't the
  vector menu items stay, which would please many, and when clicked
  triggers sextante's function dialogue? Victor? Same thing could
  happen with vector menu too. Sextante's analysis toolbar is super
  useful but might be a throwback for some if vector / raster menu
  functions disappear.

  On human resource (coders and testers) and maintenance angles,
  keeping to mechanism to do same thing is an obvious waste.

 I see. So you'd suggest to keep only Sextante code (where duplicates
 exist!) but provide shortcuts from the menu? I'd +1 that.
 I've been testing a variety of functions in the menus and in Sextante
 over the last days and there are always some broken ones. Neither
 package is without major bugs today.
 We need to get it together for 2.0 and that's easier if we can focus on
 one.

 Best wishes,
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Re: [Qgis-developer] fTools and GdalTools: sextante vs original plugins

2013-04-17 Thread Bernhard Ströbl
Wouldn't it be good to have SEXTANTE as category in the bug tracker 
(like fTools and GDAL tools)?


Bernhard

Am 17.04.2013 12:27, schrieb Victor Olaya:

Bernard's problem was related with using non-file layers in the
modeler. It was a very easy fix, so please, everyone that's using
SEXTANTE, share your problems so we can work on them and make the
software more stable. :-)

Thanks in advance!

2013/4/17 Bernhard Ströblbernhard.stro...@jena.de:

Hi all,

just want to inform you that Victor was able to solve my two problems.
Number 1 (CRS missmatch) was kinda my fault (or let's say the fault of a
former QGIS version where my project originally was created in: QGIS did
compare proj4 definition and picked the first CRS the definition of the
layer matched. As EPSG:31464 and EPSG:31468 have the same proj4 definition
but the first is deprecated it was chosen, although my layer is defined as
EPSG:31468 in geometry_columns)
Number 2 (no PostGIS suppport) was fixed in master


Bernhard

Am 17.04.2013 09:24, schrieb Victor Olaya:


Bernhard


I am sorry to hear about your bad experience. Could you detail a bit
more about what you are doing (algorithms you are running, etc)?.
PostGIS layers should work without problems, but I have recently fixed
a problem with PostGIS when using SAGA algorithms, so there might be
other issues like that.

If you want, you can send me your layers and model, so I can have a
look and try to find out what is happening

Many thanks for your collaboration (and patience)

Victor


2013/4/17 Bernhard Ströblbernhard.stro...@jena.de:


Hi all,

for a course I am about to give tomorrow I played a bit with SEXTANTE,
although I am going to teach geoprocessing with fTools (we are using QGIS
1.8). It was my first go with SEXTANTE and I was about to show what it
will
offer in the future. Therefore I built a small model with three input
layers
a buffer and two overlay operations. I did not succeed in running the
model
so I tried in current master.
As it currently is SEXTANTE is not operable for me (or I am doing it
wrong):
First message is Layers do not all use the same CRS although they
definitely do and the same EPSG-code is noted in square brackets behind
each
layer name!? Second I get an Error executing algorithm... it seems as
SEXTANTE cannot use PostGIS layers as input (when I save them as shape
files
the model runs perfectly), this is a big limitation as my institution
stores
almost everything in PostGIS. (SEXTANTE should not offer PostGIS layers
to
choose as input layers then).

Well, this was a very disappointing experience because additionally QGIS
was
frozen two or three times opening or closing the model. I do not want to
complain, all I want is to ask for keeping fTools as they are until
SEXTANTE
can _really_ replace them in all aspects. Then we should remove the
vector
menue completely because I agree that finding the tool you are looking
for
is a lot easier in SEXTANTE.

my 2 cents

Bernhard

Am 17.04.2013 07:42, schrieb Anita Graser:



On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 3:19 AM, Mathieu Pellerinnirvn.a...@gmail.com
mailto:nirvn.a...@gmail.com   wrote:

  There might be a way to make most people happy here.

  I find the vector menu a nice ui shortcut for useful functions. If
  sextante relevant functions are at par (or better), couldn't the
  vector menu items stay, which would please many, and when clicked
  triggers sextante's function dialogue? Victor? Same thing could
  happen with vector menu too. Sextante's analysis toolbar is super
  useful but might be a throwback for some if vector / raster menu
  functions disappear.

  On human resource (coders and testers) and maintenance angles,
  keeping to mechanism to do same thing is an obvious waste.

I see. So you'd suggest to keep only Sextante code (where duplicates
exist!) but provide shortcuts from the menu? I'd +1 that.
I've been testing a variety of functions in the menus and in Sextante
over the last days and there are always some broken ones. Neither
package is without major bugs today.
We need to get it together for 2.0 and that's easier if we can focus on
one.

Best wishes,
Anita




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Re: [Qgis-developer] [Qgis-user] How define the other condition on a classification render

2013-04-17 Thread Anita Graser
Wouldn't it make sense to translate  the old style into a rule-based
renderer? There it's easy to define a style for other.

Best wishes,
Anita


On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 11:42 AM, Andrea Peri aperi2...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi,

 I have fill a ticket with a sample to show how  a map of qgis 1.8.0 if
 lost on a qgis 1.9.0 after an import.

 http://hub.qgis.org/issues/7630




 2013/4/17 Alexandre Neto senhor.n...@gmail.com

 You should be.

 I tested myself and I believe you found a bug.

 You should be able to add a new class without any value, and all values
 outside the existing categories should be rendered with that symbology.
 Thats how it works in 1.8.

 I'm not being able to open qgis.org (probably is under maintenance), but
 if there is no issue ticket for this problem, we should create one.

 Alexandre Neto



 On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 10:15 PM, Andrea Peri aperi2...@gmail.comwrote:

 Hi,

 I'm using the qgis-dev version of qgis.
 Is possible to define the 'other values' condition in the
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 Thx

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[Qgis-developer] QGIS 1.9 and SpatiaLite 4 problems

2013-04-17 Thread Cline, Royce L.
If I try to create a new SpatiaLite layer called soils in a new database, I get 
the following error when I click OK:
soils is an invalid layer and cannot be loaded.
I also tried to create a new layer in both existing version 3 and 4 databases 
and get the same error.

This on OS X 10.8.3 with nightly build for Lion and Mt. Lion with GDAL 1.10 and 
SQLite 3.7.16 (includes Spatialite v. 4.0) from KyngChaos.com. Does anybody 
have this problem on other OS?

Running a pyObjC program that loads SSURGO data into a Spatialite database. The 
spatial layers in the created SpatiaLite 4 database can be imported into QGIS 
and appear to display correctly. However, DB Manager shows the spatial layers 
as tabular data. After using spatialite_convert to convert the database to v. 
3, DB Manager correctly displays the spatial tables. Given this, I think that 
the sqlite framework from KyngChaos is working correctly and that the problem 
is in QGIS.

Royce

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Re: [Qgis-developer] Qgis-developer Digest, Vol 90, Issue 72

2013-04-17 Thread Andrea Peri
I don't know how worked the old unique-value on old-simbology.

Bat I guess it quite hard in the rule-rendering reproduce the
other not otherwise defined values. Surely not impossible, ma quite
harder almost manually write it.

Infact every rule is filtered indipendently from other values on the
datasource.

In a rule-render is easy to write a rule like every value,
but to reply the otherwise is necessary to create a filtered rule tha has
every other definided value.

So as example:

if i put:

rule 1)  value = 0101
rule 2( value = 0102
rule 3) value = 0103
...etc...

the otherwise condition in the rule-render should be something like:

(value 0101) and (value  0102) and (value  0103) and (value 
0104) ...etc

Andrea.


Date: Wed, 17 Apr 2013 13:34:00 +0200

 From: Anita Graser anitagra...@gmx.at
 To: qgis-u...@lists.osgeo.org, qgis-dev
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 Wouldn't it make sense to translate  the old style into a rule-based
 renderer? There it's easy to define a style for other.

 Best wishes,
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Re: [Qgis-developer] fTools and GdalTools: sextante vs original plugins

2013-04-17 Thread antoniolocandro
Well since I can't code I can help with the testing, just point me where to 
start and I will try Sextante 




Sent from Samsung tabletFilipe Dias filipesd...@gmail.com wrote:I agree with 
allowing the user to define some Menu entries. As an end user I'd rather have 
all Analytical tools in one place, but this would allow people to not loose 
their habit of calling some more commonly used tools (I agree with Paolo, a 
poll with be good) from the Menu.

Sextante is more stable in the areas where there more users. This can only be 
solved if more people step in for testing or when the full testing suite is 
completed. In any case, Sextante is the single most powerfull GIS analysis tool 
out there, including proprietary software. It's a huge undertaking and it is 
being carried by very few people. I wish there were more people contributing to 
the code and testing it. 


On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 8:49 AM, Victor Olaya vola...@gmail.com wrote:
I like the idea of allowing menu entries to be defined from SEXTANTE
algorithms, as a shortcut to them. If we agree on that, I could start
working on it.

Thanks everyone for you ideas!

Cheers
Victor

2013/4/17 Bernhard Ströbl bernhard.stro...@jena.de:
 Hi all,

 for a course I am about to give tomorrow I played a bit with SEXTANTE,
 although I am going to teach geoprocessing with fTools (we are using QGIS
 1.8). It was my first go with SEXTANTE and I was about to show what it will
 offer in the future. Therefore I built a small model with three input layers
 a buffer and two overlay operations. I did not succeed in running the model
 so I tried in current master.
 As it currently is SEXTANTE is not operable for me (or I am doing it wrong):
 First message is Layers do not all use the same CRS although they
 definitely do and the same EPSG-code is noted in square brackets behind each
 layer name!? Second I get an Error executing algorithm... it seems as
 SEXTANTE cannot use PostGIS layers as input (when I save them as shape files
 the model runs perfectly), this is a big limitation as my institution stores
 almost everything in PostGIS. (SEXTANTE should not offer PostGIS layers to
 choose as input layers then).

 Well, this was a very disappointing experience because additionally QGIS was
 frozen two or three times opening or closing the model. I do not want to
 complain, all I want is to ask for keeping fTools as they are until SEXTANTE
 can _really_ replace them in all aspects. Then we should remove the vector
 menue completely because I agree that finding the tool you are looking for
 is a lot easier in SEXTANTE.

 my 2 cents

 Bernhard

 Am 17.04.2013 07:42, schrieb Anita Graser:

 On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 3:19 AM, Mathieu Pellerin nirvn.a...@gmail.com
 mailto:nirvn.a...@gmail.com wrote:

     There might be a way to make most people happy here.

     I find the vector menu a nice ui shortcut for useful functions. If
     sextante relevant functions are at par (or better), couldn't the
     vector menu items stay, which would please many, and when clicked
     triggers sextante's function dialogue? Victor? Same thing could
     happen with vector menu too. Sextante's analysis toolbar is super
     useful but might be a throwback for some if vector / raster menu
     functions disappear.

     On human resource (coders and testers) and maintenance angles,
     keeping to mechanism to do same thing is an obvious waste.

 I see. So you'd suggest to keep only Sextante code (where duplicates
 exist!) but provide shortcuts from the menu? I'd +1 that.
 I've been testing a variety of functions in the menus and in Sextante
 over the last days and there are always some broken ones. Neither
 package is without major bugs today.
 We need to get it together for 2.0 and that's easier if we can focus on
 one.

 Best wishes,
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Re: [Qgis-developer] [Discussion] Repository and Plugin idea for Google Summer of Code

2013-04-17 Thread Nathan Woodrow
Hey Arun,

Great to see you back on the list.  Are you thinking of doing this for GSoC
or just as a free time project?

- Nathan


On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 3:50 PM, arunthe...@gmail.com
arunthe...@gmail.comwrote:

 Hello,

 I have been going through the Google Summer of Code 2013 ideas page [0]
 and I think the remote repository for style/svg/script sharing proposed by
 Alexander Bruy would be a nice follow up of my last year work on the Symbol
 management.

 Here are a few things that come to my mind:

 0. The foremost point is, instead of a plugin to handle the fetching and
 importing, we could implement them in the parts concerned directly. Eg.,
 style import in style manager, sextante model/script importer in sextante
 ..etc

 1. Since we don't have a repository, last year I just made a way to input
 the XML url in the symbol Import dialog and fetch the symbols. The idea is
 to add an option to get the symbols from the central repository with their
 groups and tags and import them individually or based on individual groups
 or with a specific set of tags.

 2. The Django application with REST API must be with an user
 authentication layer, should be install-able and configurable for
 organisations to host their own servers.

 3. The base URL for the remote server can be kept changeable in the
 application options, so organizations can point it to their servers.

 I might have missed a few obvious points. Kindly discuss and help to
 improve the idea. Thank you.

 [0] http://hub.qgis.org/wiki/quantum-gis/Google_Summer_of_Code_2013

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Re: [Qgis-developer] fTools and GdalTools: sextante vs original plugins

2013-04-17 Thread Filipe Dias
Get Qgis Master, randomly (or deliberately) choose tools that you know how
to use and run them. If they don't work as expected, report a bug:

http://hub.qgis.org/projects/sextante/issues

When I have enough time, I do my regular work using Qgis Master and report
the bugs that I find.



On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 2:17 PM, antoniolocandro 
antoniolocan...@hotmail.com wrote:

 Well since I can't code I can help with the testing, just point me where
 to start and I will try Sextante




 Sent from Samsung tablet

 Filipe Dias filipesd...@gmail.com wrote:
 I agree with allowing the user to define some Menu entries. As an end user
 I'd rather have all Analytical tools in one place, but this would allow
 people to not loose their habit of calling some more commonly used tools
 (I agree with Paolo, a poll with be good) from the Menu.

 Sextante is more stable in the areas where there more users. This can only
 be solved if more people step in for testing or when the full testing suite
 is completed. In any case, Sextante is the single most powerfull GIS
 analysis tool out there, including proprietary software. It's a huge
 undertaking and it is being carried by very few people. I wish there were
 more people contributing to the code and testing it.


 On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 8:49 AM, Victor Olaya vola...@gmail.com wrote:

 I like the idea of allowing menu entries to be defined from SEXTANTE
 algorithms, as a shortcut to them. If we agree on that, I could start
 working on it.

 Thanks everyone for you ideas!

 Cheers
 Victor

 2013/4/17 Bernhard Ströbl bernhard.stro...@jena.de:
  Hi all,
 
  for a course I am about to give tomorrow I played a bit with SEXTANTE,
  although I am going to teach geoprocessing with fTools (we are using
 QGIS
  1.8). It was my first go with SEXTANTE and I was about to show what it
 will
  offer in the future. Therefore I built a small model with three input
 layers
  a buffer and two overlay operations. I did not succeed in running the
 model
  so I tried in current master.
  As it currently is SEXTANTE is not operable for me (or I am doing it
 wrong):
  First message is Layers do not all use the same CRS although they
  definitely do and the same EPSG-code is noted in square brackets behind
 each
  layer name!? Second I get an Error executing algorithm... it seems as
  SEXTANTE cannot use PostGIS layers as input (when I save them as shape
 files
  the model runs perfectly), this is a big limitation as my institution
 stores
  almost everything in PostGIS. (SEXTANTE should not offer PostGIS layers
 to
  choose as input layers then).
 
  Well, this was a very disappointing experience because additionally
 QGIS was
  frozen two or three times opening or closing the model. I do not want to
  complain, all I want is to ask for keeping fTools as they are until
 SEXTANTE
  can _really_ replace them in all aspects. Then we should remove the
 vector
  menue completely because I agree that finding the tool you are looking
 for
  is a lot easier in SEXTANTE.
 
  my 2 cents
 
  Bernhard
 
  Am 17.04.2013 07:42, schrieb Anita Graser:
 
  On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 3:19 AM, Mathieu Pellerin 
 nirvn.a...@gmail.com
  mailto:nirvn.a...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  There might be a way to make most people happy here.
 
  I find the vector menu a nice ui shortcut for useful functions. If
  sextante relevant functions are at par (or better), couldn't the
  vector menu items stay, which would please many, and when clicked
  triggers sextante's function dialogue? Victor? Same thing could
  happen with vector menu too. Sextante's analysis toolbar is super
  useful but might be a throwback for some if vector / raster menu
  functions disappear.
 
  On human resource (coders and testers) and maintenance angles,
  keeping to mechanism to do same thing is an obvious waste.
 
  I see. So you'd suggest to keep only Sextante code (where duplicates
  exist!) but provide shortcuts from the menu? I'd +1 that.
  I've been testing a variety of functions in the menus and in Sextante
  over the last days and there are always some broken ones. Neither
  package is without major bugs today.
  We need to get it together for 2.0 and that's easier if we can focus on
  one.
 
  Best wishes,
  Anita
 
 
 
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[Qgis-developer] Fwd: Journals to publish plug-ins ?

2013-04-17 Thread Agustin Lobo
I thought this could be of interest here.
Sorry for cross-posting
Agus


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From: Doube, Michael mdo...@rvc.ac.uk
Date: Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 2:33 PM
Subject: Re: Journals to publish plug-ins ?
To: ima...@list.nih.gov

Hi Adrian,

See this list:
http://www.software.ac.uk/resources/guides/which-journals-should-i-publish-my-software

In particular the new Journal of Open Research Software if you just
need to document your code and get a DOI
http://openresearchsoftware.metajnl.com/

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Re: [Qgis-developer] [Qgis-user] How define the other condition on a classification render

2013-04-17 Thread Paolo Cavallini
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Il 17/04/2013 13:34, Anita Graser ha scritto:
 Wouldn't it make sense to translate  the old style into a
 rule-based renderer? There it's easy to define a style for
 other.

Hi.
The previous behaviour was much faster by all means however.
All the best.

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Re: [Qgis-developer] fTools and GdalTools: sextante vs original plugins

2013-04-17 Thread Paolo Cavallini
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Il 17/04/2013 10:29, Filipe Dias ha scritto:
 I agree with allowing the user to define some Menu entries. As an
 end user I'd rather have all Analytical tools in one place, but
 this would allow people to not loose their habit of calling some
 more commonly used tools (I agree with Paolo, a poll with be good)
 from the Menu.
 
 Sextante is more stable in the areas where there more users. This
 can only be solved if more people step in for testing or when the
 full testing suite is completed. In any case, Sextante is the
 single most powerfull GIS analysis tool out there, including
 proprietary software. It's a huge undertaking and it is being
 carried by very few people. I wish there were more people
 contributing to the code and testing it.

Hi all.
I like the way this discussion is going.
I suggested to postpone the removal of old commands because I think
there is still a lot to do in Sextante, and it would be risky to
remove well tested tools too early. Furthermore, it is still
comparatively easy to break some functionalities with small changes,
so until we have a proper, automatic test at every commit, I would
prefer to rest on solid ground.
If things change in the next month or so, I'd be the first to support
Sextante (as I've always been).
All the best.
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Re: [Qgis-developer] fTools and GdalTools: sextante vs original plugins

2013-04-17 Thread Paolo Cavallini
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Il 17/04/2013 09:49, Victor Olaya ha scritto:
 I like the idea of allowing menu entries to be defined from
 SEXTANTE algorithms, as a shortcut to them. If we agree on that, I
 could start working on it.

yes, nice idea - be careful not to generate confusion with existing
tools; perhaps this can be done by adding a sextante minilogo to the
icon for the tool.
all the best.
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Re: [Qgis-developer] fTools and GdalTools: sextante vs original plugins

2013-04-17 Thread Anita Graser

Am 17.04.2013, 18:26 Uhr, schrieb Paolo Cavallini cavall...@faunalia.it:

so until we have a proper, automatic test at every commit, I would
prefer to rest on solid ground.


Let me just note that I'm not so sure how solid our ground is. E.g. ftools  
union tool used to work fine and is broken now. Same with ftools distance  
matrix.


Anita
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Re: [Qgis-developer] fTools and GdalTools: sextante vs original plugins

2013-04-17 Thread vinayan
+1 for keeping the vector menu.

I think it is best to have maximum algorithms available in c++ ap,  in the
analysis module(i see that some are already available)..I would be willing
to contribute to it if required

thanks
Vinayan



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[Qgis-developer] PROBLEM SOLVED - QGIS Misses GetCapabilites Version - RE: Adding The Selection of Image Type To WMS Setup?

2013-04-17 Thread Bruce, Bob (CON)
Jürgen,
After consulting Cubewerx yesterday, I realized that we weren't seeing 
the image types because QGIS wasn't reading the default version of the Cubewerx 
GetCapabilites document.

The Cubewerx default OGC version is 1.3.2 which has request section headers 
like: 
Operation name=GetCapabilities
Operation name=GetMap
Operation name=GetFeatureInfo

Version 1.3.0 of the OGC GetCapabilites document has request section headers:
GetCapabilities
GetMap
GetFeatureInfo

I managed to force QGIS to read the GetCapabilities document by adding the 
string version=1.3.0 to the end of my URL. Once I did this then I saw four 
image types appear as options:
PNG JPEG GIF TIFF
I did not see an option for the encoding image/x-jpegorpng that Cubewerx is 
offering.

So I have two questions:
1) will QGIS soon accommodate a OGC GetCapabilites format version 1.3.2 
document?
2) will it be possible to have the image type of jpegorpng allowed to be used?

Having 2) accommodated will allow the server to decide if a PNG file is needed 
in areas where part of the image is transparent and send JPEG images where no 
transparency is required. The PNG images are roughly 8X larger than the JPEG 
images so accommodating this image type would reduce network traffic 
significantly.

Thanks,
Bob Bruce

-Original Message-
From: qgis-developer-boun...@lists.osgeo.org 
[mailto:qgis-developer-boun...@lists.osgeo.org] On Behalf Of Bruce, Bob (CON)
Sent: April-14-13 7:37 AM
To: qgis-developer@lists.osgeo.org
Subject: Re: [Qgis-developer] Adding The Selection of Image Type To WMS Setup?

Jürgen,
Thanks for getting back to me on this. I cannot seem to find where I 
can select the image type when I connect to my WMS server. Could you please 
help me to locate this feature?

My WMS server is:
   http://nis.cubewerx.com/cubewerx/cubeserv.cgi?CONFIG=OIM_MB_-_Orthophoto

My GetCapabilities request returns image formats of:

Formatimage/png/Format
Formatimage/png; PhotometricInterpretation=PaletteColor/Format
Formatimage/png; PhotometricInterpretation=RGB/Format
Formatimage/png; PhotometricInterpretation=BlackIsZero/Format
Formatimage/tiff/FormatFormatimage/tiff; 
PhotometricInterpretation=PaletteColor/Format
Formatimage/tiff; PhotometricInterpretation=RGB/Format
Formatimage/tiff; PhotometricInterpretation=BlackIsZero/Format
Formatimage/gif/Format
Formatimage/jpeg/Format
Formatimage/x-jpegorpng/Format
Formatimage/x-portable-anymap/Format
Formatimage/x-portable-pixmap/Format
Formatimage/x-portable-graymap/Format
Formatapplication/x-cubewerx-wkb; version=3/Format
Formatapplication/x-cubewerx-wkb; version=3; 
PhotometricInterpretation=PaletteColor/Format
Formatapplication/x-cubewerx-wkb; version=3; 
PhotometricInterpretation=RGB/Format
Formatapplication/x-cubewerx-wkb; version=3; 
PhotometricInterpretation=BlackIsZero/Format
Formatapplication/vnd.google-earth.kml+xml/Format
Formatapplication/vnd.google-earth.kml+bxml; bxmlVersion=0.0.8/Format

but I don't see how to select these.

As for the user-agent string, we are not seeing anything on the server in the 
HTTP header to let us know that it is coming from QGIS, however that would not 
be important to us to know if we could select the image type when we add the 
WMS layer.

thanks,
   Bob Bruce

- Original Message -
From: Jürgen E. Fischer j...@norbit.de
To: qgis-developer@lists.osgeo.org
Sent: Saturday, April 13, 2013 2:36:21 AM
Subject: Re: [Qgis-developer] Adding The Selection of Image Type To WMS Setup?

Hi Bob,

On Fri, 12. Apr 2013 at 18:25:32 -0500, Bruce, Bob (CON) wrote:
 Would it be possible to get QGIS modified to allow the selection of the image
 format type (i.e. PNG, JPEG, or others) in the setup of a WMS connection?

No, because it's already there.  If a WMS server offers multiple formats you
can select the one you want in the wms selection dialog.


 Cubewerx provides an image type of image/x-jpegorpng where it decides if it
 needs to send PNG images if we are doing a draw that includes some
 transparent areas, otherwise it sends JPEG images. This image type is stated
 in the GetCapabilities response along with the other image types that are
 supported and if we had the opportunity to select this image type in QGIS
 then we could get much smaller images most of the time.

Supporting that image type shouldn't be a problem.  Everything the server
supplies is passed to QImage and that transparently figures out what format it
is - the format selection is only used to form the request.


 We have also discovered that ArcGIS identifies itself through a user-agent
 string in the header of the request (HTTP method), it sends the following
 user-agent string: ArcGIS Client Using WinInet and Cubewerx has adapted
 their server to automatically handle the image types that are provided to
 ArcGIS. Unfortunately we see no such user-agent string provided by QGIS so we
 are not able to have the server adapted to QGIS image requests. Other clients
 may need PNG 

[Qgis-developer] Updating context help and translations

2013-04-17 Thread Chris Crook
Hi

Just wondering what the procedure is for updating context help (in this case 
for delimited text plugin).  I can update en_US version, but sadly I'm totally 
incompetent for any other options.So question is when translations are 
being done, how should the other versions be handled.  At present there will be 
an out of date (ie largely correct but much less informative) help file there.  
But for a lot of users it could be more useful to have the en_US version with 
the extra info.

So is there a way of flagging that the other files are out of date (ie 
candidates for retranslation).  Or do translators look at everything anyway?

Thanks
Chris


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Re: [Qgis-developer] Updating context help and translations

2013-04-17 Thread Werner Macho
Unfortunately no flagging ..
The only thing you can do is a pull request for the en_US version and than
hope that a translator sees this pull request and will update also the
other language files ..
but currently the field of context_help translation is not such good
covered as GUI or Documentation translation ..

kind regards
Werner



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  Hi 

 ** **

 Just wondering what the procedure is for updating context help (in this
 case for delimited text plugin).  I can update en_US version, but sadly I’m
 totally incompetent for any other options.So question is when
 translations are being done, how should the other versions be handled.  At
 present there will be an out of date (ie largely correct but much less
 informative) help file there.  But for a lot of users it could be more
 useful to have the en_US version with the extra info.  

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 candidates for retranslation).  Or do translators look at everything anyway?
 

 ** **

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Re: [Qgis-developer] PROBLEM SOLVED - QGIS Misses GetCapabilites Version - RE: Adding The Selection of Image Type To WMS Setup?

2013-04-17 Thread Jürgen E . Fischer
Hi Bruce,

On Wed, 17. Apr 2013 at 15:45:04 -0500, Bruce, Bob (CON) wrote:
 So I have two questions:
 1) will QGIS soon accommodate a OGC GetCapabilites format version 1.3.2 
 document?
 2) will it be possible to have the image type of jpegorpng allowed to be used?

Since sunday it does - see 6604d2f8146


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Re: [Qgis-developer] PROBLEM SOLVED - QGIS Misses GetCapabilites Version - RE: Adding The Selection of Image Type To WMS Setup?

2013-04-17 Thread Bruce, Bob (CON)
Jürgen,
Thanks, that's great.

I upgraded my QGIS and I was able to connect to the WMS and see the image types 
without adding the version=1.3.0 string and I did see the JPEG/PNG selection. 
When I selected that type and drew the whole area I did not get an image that 
had transparency so the underlying image was now showing where blank areas 
appeared. When I select JPEG/PNG is QGIS selecting an image format specified by 
image/x-jpegorpng or is it specified by something else? I am wondering if I 
should be looking to the server for the problem or looking to QGIS.

Thanks,
Bob

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[mailto:qgis-developer-boun...@lists.osgeo.org] On Behalf Of Jürgen E. Fischer
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Subject: Re: [Qgis-developer] PROBLEM SOLVED - QGIS Misses GetCapabilites 
Version - RE: Adding The Selection of Image Type To WMS Setup?

Hi Bruce,

On Wed, 17. Apr 2013 at 15:45:04 -0500, Bruce, Bob (CON) wrote:
 So I have two questions:
 1) will QGIS soon accommodate a OGC GetCapabilites format version 1.3.2 
 document?
 2) will it be possible to have the image type of jpegorpng allowed to be used?

Since sunday it does - see 6604d2f8146


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Re: [Qgis-developer] [Qgis-user] [Qgis-psc] Logo

2013-04-17 Thread MORREALE Jean Roc
Andyzendy (#50) for me : simple, easily downscalable to 16x16 (great for 
taskbar/favicon), can be converted to greyscale (good for print)


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