Re: [Ql-Users] Hello and a question
Petri Pellinen wrote: greetings from sunny Finland. I recently found my old QL in my father's attic and am going to put in some quality retrocomputing time. It's great to see that there are still people active around this piece of hardware. Is it the Finnish or English version of the QL? A few days ago I bought a Finnish version (MGY ROM) on eBay. I made a few pictures and put them on my Windows Live Photo Gallery. See: http://cid-c250d8748980ce5a.photos.live.com/browse.aspx/Sinclair%20QL/QLcomp uters There's a stricker on the bottom of my Finnish QL. It seams to have a sentence in both Finnish and Swedish. http://cid-c250d8748980ce5a.photos.live.com/self.aspx/Sinclair%20QL/QLcomput ers/SinclairQL^_Finnish^_version^_MGY^_ROM-P1050787.JPG It reads: SINETIN MURTAMINEN KIELLETTY FÖRSEGLINGEN FAR EJ BRYTAS Could you please translate this for me? Greetings from Switzerland, Urs QLvsJAGUAR - Much more than retro! - Always remember: QL forever! Website: http://www.qlvsjaguar.homepage.bluewin.ch Videos: http://www.youtube.com/user/QLvsJaguar Pictures: http://cid-c250d8748980ce5a.photos.live.com/albums.aspx ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] Hello and a question
Urs Koenig (QL) wrote: Petri Pellinen wrote: greetings from sunny Finland. I recently found my old QL in my father's attic and am going to put in some quality retrocomputing time. It's great to see that there are still people active around this piece of hardware. Is it the Finnish or English version of the QL? A few days ago I bought a Finnish version (MGY ROM) on eBay. I made a few pictures and put them on my Windows Live Photo Gallery. See: http://cid-c250d8748980ce5a.photos.live.com/browse.aspx/Sinclair%20QL/QLcomp uters There's a stricker on the bottom of my Finnish QL. It seams to have a sentence in both Finnish and Swedish. http://cid-c250d8748980ce5a.photos.live.com/self.aspx/Sinclair%20QL/QLcomput ers/SinclairQL^_Finnish^_version^_MGY^_ROM-P1050787.JPG This link doesnt seem to work It reads: SINETIN MURTAMINEN KIELLETTY FÖRSEGLINGEN FAR EJ BRYTAS The seal must not be broken Could you please translate this for me? Greetings from Switzerland, Urs Per ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] Hello and a question
On Monday 13 Sep 2010 07:50:42 P Witte wrote: Urs Koenig (QL) wrote: http://cid-c250d8748980ce5a.photos.live.com/self.aspx/Sinclair%20QL/QLcom put ers/SinclairQL^_Finnish^_version^_MGY^_ROM-P1050787.JPG This link doesnt seem to work The link does work, but it is line sliced and as a URL should just be http://cid- c250d8748980ce5a.photos.live.com/self.aspx/Sinclair%20QL/QLcomputers/SinclairQL^_Finnish^_version^_MGY^_ROM- P1050787.JPG If that does not work try http://cid-c250d8748980ce5a.photos.live.com/self.aspx/Sinclair%20QL and then click on the image. On the next screen choose the QLcomputers icon. Regards John ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] Hello and a question
Per Witte wrote: http://cid-c250d8748980ce5a.photos.live.com/self.aspx/Sinclair%20QL/QL comput ers/SinclairQL^_Finnish^_version^_MGY^_ROM-P1050787.JPG This link doesnt seem to work Try this one which links to the folder with the pictures: http://cid-c250d8748980ce5a.photos.live.com/browse.aspx/Sinclair%20QL/QLcomp uters It reads: SINETIN MURTAMINEN KIELLETTY FÖRSEGLINGEN FAR EJ BRYTAS The seal must not be broken Thanks! I assume the 2nd line is Swedish which is not that far from Norwegian. Right? A 1:1 translation to German shows that with some inspiration one could translate without asking ;-) VERSIEGELUNG DARF NICHT BRECHEN Urs ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] Hello and a question
Rich Mellor wrote, on 13/Sep/10 08:55 | Sep13: On 13/09/2010 07:32, Urs Koenig (QL) wrote: Petri Pellinen wrote: greetings from sunny Finland. I recently found my old QL in my father's attic and am going to put in some quality retrocomputing time. It's great to see that there are still people active around this piece of hardware. Is it the Finnish or English version of the QL? A few days ago I bought a Finnish version (MGY ROM) on eBay. I made a few pictures and put them on my Windows Live Photo Gallery. See: http://cid-c250d8748980ce5a.photos.live.com/browse.aspx/Sinclair%20QL/QLcomp uters There's a stricker on the bottom of my Finnish QL. It seams to have a sentence in both Finnish and Swedish. http://cid-c250d8748980ce5a.photos.live.com/self.aspx/Sinclair%20QL/QLcomput ers/SinclairQL^_Finnish^_version^_MGY^_ROM-P1050787.JPG It reads: SINETIN MURTAMINEN KIELLETTY FÖRSEGLINGEN FAR EJ BRYTAS Could you please translate this for me? Greetings from Switzerland, Urs Is it me, or does that machine have two R letters on the keyboard with no apparent difference between the two? Looks like someone had simply lost a key: http://frontype.com/keyboard/Finish-keyboard-layout.html BTW to reply to what John (in Wales?) said about line broken URLs. Two solutions: 1) still can break: URL:http://thisisalongURL_thisisalongURL_thisisalongURL_thisisalongURL_thisisalongURL_thisisalongURL_thisisalongURL_thisisalongURL_thisisalongURL_thisisalongURL_thisisalongURL_thisisalongURL_thisisalongURL_thisisalongURL_thisisalongURL_thisisalongURL_.htm 2) see http://tinyurl.co.uk - *always* works. Tony -- QBBS (QL fido BBS 2:257/67) +44(0)1442-828255 t...@firshman.co.uk http://firshman.co.uk Voice: +44(0)1442-828254 Fax: +44(0)1442-828255 Skype: tonyfirshman TF Services, 29 Longfield Road, TRING, Herts, HP23 4DG ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] Hello and a question
Tony Firshman wrote, on 13/Sep/10 09:04 | Sep13: BTW to reply to what John (in Wales?) said about line broken URLs. Two solutions: 1) still can break: URL:http://thisisalongURL_thisisalongURL_thisisalongURL_thisisalongURL_thisisalongURL_thisisalongURL_thisisalongURL_thisisalongURL_thisisalongURL_thisisalongURL_thisisalongURL_thisisalongURL_thisisalongURL_thisisalongURL_thisisalongURL_thisisalongURL_.htm ... and worked perfectly with Thunderbird 3.1.3 2) see http://tinyurl.co.uk - *always* works. Tony -- QBBS (QL fido BBS 2:257/67) +44(0)1442-828255 t...@firshman.co.uk http://firshman.co.uk Voice: +44(0)1442-828254 Fax: +44(0)1442-828255 Skype: tonyfirshman TF Services, 29 Longfield Road, TRING, Herts, HP23 4DG ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] Hello and a question
Rich Mellor wrote: Is it me, or does that machine have two R letters on the keyboard with no apparent difference between the two? Thanks for letting me know. Even the seal is not broken the machine seams to be modified. Right, removing/changing QL keytops is possible without opening the case. Will have another look at this QL to see if other keys are wrong. Urs ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
[Ql-Users] io.fline end of line
Hi, I've noticed some inconsistent handling of text files in QPC2. The problem was reading text files with both carriage return and line feed at the end of line. Several programs could read these files from the qxl.win drive without complaint. However the same file being read from a dos or ram drives caused problems. One particular program that got upset was the GST assembler. I finally tracked the problem down to the io.flin trap. It was converting the carriage return to a line feed, but only on the win drive. Is there any switch to change this behaviour and have it working on all drives? Or is this a bug? Cheers Malcolm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] Hello and a question
Re; Tony's - BTW to reply to what John (in Wales?) said about line broken URLs. -- Not me sir! - but now everyone knows why - just not being 'any boring old John' - I've always *proudly* qualified it here ;-) Best wishes to all, John in Wales PS Adding our country, as a postscript, contributes to 'list camaraderie' as well as aiding contributor-identity? ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] Ql-Users Digest, Vol 79, Issue 9
Hi I've already mailed to Microvitec but i'm sorry to say their answer was Unfortunately we don't have anything to offer which is compatible with the QL. Luk. - Original Message - From: Dilwyn Jones dil...@evans1511.fsnet.co.uk To: ql-us...@q-v-d.com Sent: Sunday, September 12, 2010 12:01 PM Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] Ql-Users Digest, Vol 79, Issue 9 I'm currently using the RF output but I ordered a converter board from Jammaboards to be able to hook the RGB output to a VGA monitor so that should help isolate the problem. Well, actually I won't be needing the TV output anymore if the converter board works as advertised but it would be nice to be able to fix the problem anyway. Petri Does your television have a SCART/Peritel connector? While you wait for the RGB converter board and take time to experiment with it, you might be able to get a slightly better picture via the SCART/Peritel connection to the television if you have suitable plugs (QL 8-pin DIN plug and a Peritel or SCART connector for the TV) There's an article about how to do this on my website at: http://www.dilwyn.me.uk/docs/hardware/index.html Tony Firshman (TF Services) has in the past supplied me with a ready-made suitable lead for the QL. I forget the price, although I think it was about 10 or 12 pounds plus our Value Added Tax (VAT). For me, anyway, this type of connection didn't give as good a picture as a proper monitor connection, but it was better than the RF picture. There is also the possibility of getting a second-user QL monitor. Microvitec in England have some refurbished QL monitors, according to a member of this list in March this year - the contact email address given was sales AT microvitec DOT co DOT uk . They have TTL-compatible LCD displays, though these cost a thousand pounds or more, and also have some of their old QL monitors. And I guess that both eBay and Rich Mellor's Sell My Retro sites might have QL monitors from time to time too. Dilwyn Jones ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm Geen virus gevonden in het binnenkomende-bericht. Gecontroleerd door AVG - www.avg.com Versie: 9.0.851 / Virusdatabase: 271.1.1/3129 - datum van uitgifte: 09/11/10 20:34:00 ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
[Ql-Users] For your information: C68 documentation bug related to _Cinit
Hi everyone, the C68 compiler for QDOS is the bee's knees and I love it. I stumbled into a minor problem with it the other day and I thought to post this just in case someone else happens to run into it also. C68 compiler documentation mentions that it is possible to reduce binary size by about 12k if one doesn't need things like environment variables, command line parameters, etc. The documented way of achieving this is to declare the following at global scope: (*_Cinit)() = main; Well, since I'm targeting the original QL and want to squeeze out every kb possible I gave this a go and ended up with illegal instruction trap every time... I contacted Dave Walker who is one of the authors and he was extremely kind and helpful and took a look. It seems that this is a documentation bug. The correct vector to override is actually _Cstart: (*_Cstart)() = main; does the trick. Best regards, Petri A more detailed explanation from Dave below: == What I found is that your problem is actually a mistake in the documentation. The vector that is meant to be initialised to point to main() is the _Cstart one and not _Cinit as the documentation says. After making that change your program works as expected. I think that the reason for the confusion is that if you do not explicitly provide a value for the _Cstart vector, then the default for the _CStart vector is to point to the _Cinit label (which is the beginning of the code that carries out the initialisation of the full C environment - exactly the code you are trying to omit!). ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] Ql-Users Digest, Vol 79, Issue 9
In message 8dc375c04ba74aaa97ecc1b57990e...@pcvanluk, Luk Vangenechten luk.vangenech...@skynet.be writes Hi I've already mailed to Microvitec but i'm sorry to say their answer was Unfortunately we don't have anything to offer which is compatible with the QL. Luk. Hi Luk, The old Microvitec Monitors are fine with the QL, or any RGB output. You will need to either solder up a cable, yourself, or get one made up. Wiring diagrams should be found in the old computer magazines. I have used Microvitec Monitors for years with both the BBC B, and the QL. They are very reliable monitors. -- Malcolm Cadman ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] Ql-Users Digest, Vol 79, Issue 9
On 13/09/2010 21:44, Malcolm Cadman wrote: In message 8dc375c04ba74aaa97ecc1b57990e...@pcvanluk, Luk Vangenechten luk.vangenech...@skynet.be writes Hi I've already mailed to Microvitec but i'm sorry to say their answer was Unfortunately we don't have anything to offer which is compatible with the QL. Luk. Hi Luk, The old Microvitec Monitors are fine with the QL, or any RGB output. You will need to either solder up a cable, yourself, or get one made up. Wiring diagrams should be found in the old computer magazines. I have used Microvitec Monitors for years with both the BBC B, and the QL. They are very reliable monitors. There is a Sinclair QL vision monitor on SellMyRetro.com at the moment - http://www.sellmyretro.com/offer/details/Sinclair_QL_Vision_Colour_Monitor-954 I also have a Microvitec Cub which I need to test. The main issue is sending these monitors anywhere - I have never had one survive transit (except taken in a car) yet. -- Rich Mellor RWAP Services http://www.rwapsoftware.co.uk http://www.rwapservices.co.uk -- Try out our new site: http://sellmyretro.com ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
