Re: [Ql-Users] SMSQE 3.24

2016-03-11 Thread Peter Graf
Thierry Godefroy wrote:

> [...]
> most common RTC+quartz chips (e.g. the
> DS3231) come at a quarter of this price and don't use that silly
> integrated battery concept that forces you to replace the whole shebang
> every 10 years (or even sooner, depending on how long the RTC+battery
> package was stored by the supplier before you buy it from them: I'd bet
> Farnell don't sell such a RTC everyday...).

The point was that we wanted non-volatile RAM, and the price difference
for the battery on top was relatively small at the time.

I think the design decision was not bad, considering the component is
still available off-the shelf after two decades, and that some bugs
could be fixed using post-mortem-debugging thanks to the NVRAN.

Peter

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Re: [Ql-Users] SMSQE 3.24

2016-03-11 Thread Thierry Godefroy
On Fri, 11 Mar 2016 14:54:48 +, Derek wrote:

> Hi Thierry,
> 
> The Q60 / Q40 clock chip is a ST M48T02-150PC1 Timekeeper battery. It
> plugs into a 24 pin socket on the Q60 board. It is still available,

Yes, I can see it is still available from Farnel/Element14: at 20 euros
+ VAT, it is not exactly cheap; most common RTC+quartz chips (e.g. the
DS3231) come at a quarter of this price and don't use that silly
integrated battery concept that forces you to replace the whole shebang
every 10 years (or even sooner, depending on how long the RTC+battery
package was stored by the supplier before you buy it from them: I'd bet
Farnell don't sell such a RTC everyday...).
I might get one from Farnell next time I buy some electronic components
from them (it will save the postage fee).
I am also wondering if it would be possible to open the package (probably
by abbrasing its top side with a file) to get access to the battery and
replace it... I might try that with the old chip after replacing it...

> Regards
> Derek

Regards,

Thierry.
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Re: [Ql-Users] SMSQE 3.24

2016-03-11 Thread Derek
Hi Thierry,

The Q60 / Q40 clock chip is a ST M48T02-150PC1 Timekeeper battery. It plugs 
into a 24 pin socket on the Q60 board. 

It is still available, if you need a new one I will source some.

Regards
Derek

-Original Message-
From: "Thierry Godefroy" <ql.us...@free.fr>
Sent: ‎11/‎03/‎2016 13:41
To: "ql-us...@q-v-d.com" <ql-us...@q-v-d.com>
Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] SMSQE 3.24

On Wed, 9 Mar 2016 17:39:25 +0100, I wrote:

> There's something fishy with v3.24: once compiled for the Q40/Q60, when
> trying to configure SMSQ with MenuConfig, the "Initial display mode" value
> does not show and it is impossible to configure it. When booting with the
> resulting SMSQ/E binary, I find mywelf with mode 4 consoles displayed in
> mode 8 colours...

This problem was (apparently) due to the lack of poper system date setting
before starting the build process (my Q60 RTC's battery is alas dead, and
given it's a built-in battery inside the RTC package itself, it can't be
replaced); I retried today (after checking with Wolf that I did have the
proper sources, which was indeed the case), this time after a proper
SDATE, and the resulting binary works fine.

Thierry.
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Re: [Ql-Users] SMSQE 3.24

2016-03-11 Thread Thierry Godefroy
On Wed, 9 Mar 2016 17:39:25 +0100, I wrote:

> There's something fishy with v3.24: once compiled for the Q40/Q60, when
> trying to configure SMSQ with MenuConfig, the "Initial display mode" value
> does not show and it is impossible to configure it. When booting with the
> resulting SMSQ/E binary, I find mywelf with mode 4 consoles displayed in
> mode 8 colours...

This problem was (apparently) due to the lack of poper system date setting
before starting the build process (my Q60 RTC's battery is alas dead, and
given it's a built-in battery inside the RTC package itself, it can't be
replaced); I retried today (after checking with Wolf that I did have the
proper sources, which was indeed the case), this time after a proper
SDATE, and the resulting binary works fine.

Thierry.
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Re: [Ql-Users] SMSQE 3.24

2016-03-09 Thread Thierry Godefroy
On Tue, 8 Mar 2016 06:50:54 +0100, Wolf wrote:

> Hi all,
> 
> SMSQ/E 3.24 is out.

There's something fishy with v3.24: once compiled for the Q40/Q60, when
trying to configure SMSQ with MenuConfig, the "Initial display mode" value
does not show and it is impossible to configure it. When booting with the
resulting SMSQ/E binary, I find mywelf with mode 4 consoles displayed in
mode 8 colours...

Thierry.
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[Ql-Users] SMSQE 3.24

2016-03-08 Thread Wolf

Hi all,

there was apparently some problem with the version of SMSQE 3.24 
uploaded recently.


I've re-upped it, just to be sure.


Have fun

Wolfgang

On 03/08/2016 06:50 AM, Wolf wrote:

Hi all,

SMSQ/E 3.24 is out.

In addition to a few bugfixes, there is a new "Recent" thing, which can
keep track of all recently opened files.

www.wlenerz.com/smsqe

Have fun!

Wolfgang
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[Ql-Users] SMSQE 3.24

2016-03-07 Thread Wolf

Hi all,

SMSQ/E 3.24 is out.

In addition to a few bugfixes, there is a new "Recent" thing, which can 
keep track of all recently opened files.


www.wlenerz.com/smsqe

Have fun!

Wolfgang
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