Re: [Ql-Users] SMSQmulator not loading
On 28/01/2013 06:50, Wolfgang Lenerz wrote: Downloaded and un-zipped the files. .jar file; double click - nothing; try the java instruction from manual; right click and open with offers Java so accept that. Lot of action from hard disk then nothing. It is Vista. Disappointing. and awfully time consuming. Bryan H Hi Bryan, for some reason, the file association between a .jar file and java wasn't done in your system. I don't have a windows system here right now, but the jar file must be started with the -jar parameter, eg. jave -jar path to filename. DO you know how to open a command prompt under WIndows? If you, do so, and the cd into the directory where you have unzipped SMSQmulator. From there type java -jar SMSQmulator.jar. Report back any errors Wolfgang ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm Thanks Tim Wolfgang for the helpful advice. I did start by clearing out Java and installing ver 7 afresh. When I use the command prompt as described, there is a pause and then a load of error messages scroll up the screen. And Tim, I've tried Genj; the set-up was supposed to set a desktop short cut, but didn't, and nothing happens when I double click on Genj.jar. I did manage to freeze thisfirst error line, but strayed into the cmd screen and it scrolled on. Exception in thread AWT-EventQueue-0java.lang. NoClass.. I think that I had better get someone more knowledgeable than myself actually on the computer, when they might quickly spot the problem. As an engineer I know the difficulty of diagnosing faults at a distance. Bryan H ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] SMSQmulator not loading
From: Bryan Horstmann b...@newlan.org To: ql-us...@q-v-d.com Sent: Monday, 28 January 2013, 9:32 Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] SMSQmulator not loading On 28/01/2013 06:50, Wolfgang Lenerz wrote: Downloaded and un-zipped the files. .jar file; double click - nothing; try the java instruction from manual; right click and open with offers Java so accept that. Lot of action from hard disk then nothing. It is Vista. Disappointing. and awfully time consuming. Bryan H Hi Bryan, and well done Wolfgang same thing happened on my PC Brian first time. Although the files and .jar file appeared in the folder it would not load, I moved the files to a new folder then right click and choose Extract all then it works BTW not Ql related but I've had strange screen shut down usually after a left mouse click since upgrading Java prior to trying QLmulator, a reset to before the upgrade seems to have cured this I'm way down the ladder of computer literacy just about one rung up thanks to Sbasic so here's what could be a silly question for those that might knoe - I have an Asus TF201, (Andriod) great machine for my needs if reliability is not an issue (been off for a new on/off switch already), I see that Java can be downloaded to Andriod devices, so could QLmulator run on my tablet? QLmulator on tablet QPC2 on PC both on network - got to be good All the best - Bill ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] SMSQmulator not loading
On 28/01/2013 10:20, WILLIAM WAUGH wrote: From: Bryan Horstmann b...@newlan.org To: ql-us...@q-v-d.com Sent: Monday, 28 January 2013, 9:32 Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] SMSQmulator not loading On 28/01/2013 06:50, Wolfgang Lenerz wrote: Downloaded and un-zipped the files. .jar file; double click - nothing; try the java instruction from manual; right click and open with offers Java so accept that. Lot of action from hard disk then nothing. It is Vista. Disappointing. and awfully time consuming. Bryan H Hi Bryan, and well done Wolfgang same thing happened on my PC Brian first time. Although the files and .jar file appeared in the folder it would not load, I moved the files to a new folder then right click and choose Extract all then it works BTW not Ql related but I've had strange screen shut down usually after a left mouse click since upgrading Java prior to trying QLmulator, a reset to before the upgrade seems to have cured this I'm way down the ladder of computer literacy just about one rung up thanks to Sbasic so here's what could be a silly question for those that might knoe - I have an Asus TF201, (Andriod) great machine for my needs if reliability is not an issue (been off for a new on/off switch already), I see that Java can be downloaded to Andriod devices, so could QLmulator run on my tablet? QLmulator on tablet QPC2 on PC both on network - got to be good All the best - Bill Bill and Wolfgang, Useful tip, Bill. I extracted to a new folder on my personal set, instead of in Program Fles, and it works!! No inkling of why; leave that puzzle to the experts! Extracted the same way Genj also runs. In haste. Bryan H ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] SMSQmulator not loading
On 28/01/13 11:14, Bryan Horstmann wrote:
Useful tip, Bill. I extracted to a new folder on my personal set,
instead of in Program Fles, and it works!! No inkling of why; leave
that puzzle to the experts! Extracted the same way Genj also runs.
I wonder if it is because there's a space in at least one of the folders
in the full path name? I know some programs don't like spaces (or other
weird characters) in the path. They get confused at the first one.
Linux, on the other hand, copes!
On 64 bit Windows, all 32 bit applications are installed into program
files (x86) or similar, and quite a lot of them barf at the space, and
the '(' or ')' - so Microsoft give you a folder by default that many
programs cannot actually use. Go figure.
Cheers,
Norm.
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Re: [Ql-Users] SMSQmulator not loading
William Waugh wrote: BTW not Ql related but I've had strange screen shut down usually after a left mouse click since upgrading Java prior to trying QLmulator Careful, Bill! Wolfgang is at pains to point out SMSQmulator is not a QL (nor QDOS) emulator - it uses SMSQ/E. Dilwyn ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] SMSQmulator not loading
On 28/01/2013 12:41, Dilwyn Jones wrote: William Waugh wrote: BTW not Ql related but I've had strange screen shut down usually after a left mouse click since upgrading Java prior to trying QLmulator Careful, Bill! Wolfgang is at pains to point out SMSQmulator is not a QL (nor QDOS) emulator - it uses SMSQ/E. Dilwyn ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm . OOPS - yes apologies Wolfgang and anyone else concerned, perhaps I'm a little bit distracted by the fact I actually got something on a PC to work All the best - Bill ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] SMSQmulator not loading
On 28/01/2013 12:00, Norman Dunbar wrote:
On 28/01/13 11:14, Bryan Horstmann wrote:
Useful tip, Bill. I extracted to a new folder on my personal set,
instead of in Program Fles, and it works!! No inkling of why; leave
that puzzle to the experts! Extracted the same way Genj also runs.
I wonder if it is because there's a space in at least one of the folders
in the full path name? I know some programs don't like spaces (or other
weird characters) in the path. They get confused at the first one.
Linux, on the other hand, copes!
On 64 bit Windows, all 32 bit applications are installed into program
files (x86) or similar, and quite a lot of them barf at the space, and
the '(' or ')' - so Microsoft give you a folder by default that many
programs cannot actually use. Go figure.
Cheers,
Norm.
Yes my Win file only works if it's in My Files
You mention Linux Norman, do you know what the connection is if any
between Linux and Android, My Tablet display some words booting Linux
or similar when a cold boot is actioned
All the best - Bill
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Re: [Ql-Users] SMSQmulator not loading
On 28/01/2013 15:02, Billy wrote: OOPS - yes apologies Wolfgang and anyone else concerned, perhaps I'm a little bit distracted by the fact I actually got something on a PC to work Oh don't waorry about that, I just wanted to make sure that people know what they get, which just isn't a QL emulator. Wolfgang ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] SMSQmulator not loading
Hi, I have an Asus TF201, (Andriod) great machine for my needs if reliability is not an issue (been off for a new on/off switch already), I see that Java can be downloaded to Andriod devices, so could QLmulator run on my tablet? QLmulator on tablet QPC2 on PC both on network - got to be good There's one way to find out A priori, I can't see why this could not run on a tablet. Sor far it runs under Linux (even on a Pi), MacOS and Windows. Give it a try and tell us! Wolfgang ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] SMSQmulator not loading
I see that Java can be downloaded to Andriod devices, so could QLmulator run on my tablet? QLmulator on tablet QPC2 on PC both on network - got to be good There's one way to find out A priori, I can't see why this could not run on a tablet. Sor far it runs under Linux (even on a Pi), MacOS and Windows. Give it a try and tell us! Wolfgang This would be of interest to me, too, as I have Android devices here which are a bit underused. Dilwyn ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] SMSQmulator not loading
On 28/01/2013 14:15, Wolfgang Lenerz wrote: Hi, I have an Asus TF201, (Andriod) great machine for my needs if reliability is not an issue (been off for a new on/off switch already), I see that Java can be downloaded to Andriod devices, so could QLmulator run on my tablet? QLmulator on tablet QPC2 on PC both on network - got to be good There's one way to find out A priori, I can't see why this could not run on a tablet. Sor far it runs under Linux (even on a Pi), MacOS and Windows. Give it a try and tell us! Wolfgang ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm . Will do but perhaps not just now on my tablet as it's still a bit new, my phone runs the same version of Android so might try it on it. Cheers ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] SMSQmulator not loading
On 28/01/2013 12:00, Norman Dunbar wrote:
On 28/01/13 11:14, Bryan Horstmann wrote:
Useful tip, Bill. I extracted to a new folder on my personal set,
instead of in Program Fles, and it works!! No inkling of why; leave
that puzzle to the experts! Extracted the same way Genj also runs.
I wonder if it is because there's a space in at least one of the
folders in the full path name? I know some programs don't like spaces
(or other weird characters) in the path. They get confused at the
first one.
Linux, on the other hand, copes!
On 64 bit Windows, all 32 bit applications are installed into program
files (x86) or similar, and quite a lot of them barf at the space,
and the '(' or ')' - so Microsoft give you a folder by default that
many programs cannot actually use. Go figure.
Cheers,
Norm.
I've mada a folder Program_files_2 in C:\ and copied them into there.
Both SMSQ and Genj run ok from there so perhaps it is a
space-in-the-filename thing.
Bryan H
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Re: [Ql-Users] SMSQmulator not loading
Am 28.01.2013 um 15:08 schrieb Billy: You mention Linux Norman, do you know what the connection is if any between Linux and Android, My Tablet display some words booting Linux or similar when a cold boot is actioned Bill, I'm not Norman, but answer anyways ;) Android is, simply spoken, just a Java-based GUI shell on top of a (typically ARM-) Linux kernel. The Android GUI, however, uses entirely different graphical GUI libraries than Linux, MacOS or Windows Java. This would not be a simple port, I'm afraid. Regards, Tobias ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
