Re: [ql-users] Euro equipped font and other news
>It's true that only some currency are associated with special symbol (Yen, >pound,...) and only one is known evrywhere (and part of Basic too). >It's true too that pff font are not very good on screen when they are very >nice on paper. Don't know why. Vector fonts are designed for high res (printing). They contain hints to render them better at low resolutions, but this does not work equally well for all fonts (though you would be surprised about the effects of hinting, things would be much, much worse without hinting). >The main problem is the lack of anti aliasing. Wrong, supported in high colour modes. Though impossible to achieve in only four colours :-( >Also I believe that the PFF format (Correct me if I am wrong Joachim) >does not do two different renderings for small and medium to large sizes. True. >Double rendering is a common practice for both Postscript and TrueType due >to limitations of the output mediums (screens). As far as I know, Adobe never actually released the details for Postscript fonts with multiple sizes in it, though I know they exist. >In the case of PFF for speed considerations probably the rendering process >is uniform for all sizes which leads to the problems that I mentioned. Speed is not the reason. In fact, the screen fonts would render faster due to lesser complexity. As I said above, the problem is getting specs for the font format. At the time, Truetype was very badly documented. Joachim
RE: [ql-users] Euro equipped font and other news
On 4 Jan 2002, at 17:18, Claude Mourier 00 wrote: > It's true that only some currency are associated with special symbol (Yen, > pound,...) and only one is known evrywhere (and part of Basic too). > It's true too that pff font are not very good on screen when they are very > nice on paper. Don't know why. Because of the much lower resolution on the screen. Wolfgang - www.wlenerz.com
Re: [ql-users] Euro equipped font and other news
Dilwyn Wrote:- >And if he's as into British humour as he implies, we might send him >Darren's QL Joke Book as punishment ;-)) God, no! you wouldn't do that to him!! :-)) Seriously though, I've got a huge stash of new jokes now, I'll have to do a second edition. Actually, probably about 30Mb of stuff here so will have to be a CD version!! Cheers, Darren. This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify us immediately at [EMAIL PROTECTED] and delete this E-mail from your system. Thank you. It is possible for data transmitted by email to be deliberately or accidentally corrupted or intercepted. For this reason, where the communication is by email, the Bank of Ireland Group does not accept any responsibility for any breach of confidence which may arise through the use of this medium. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept for the presence of known computer viruses.
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>Thanks Dilwyn, > >I knew when I read it back that the Abbey National wasn't correct, I just >had a big black hole in my memory for the correct name. I hoped nobody would >notice, I forgot about your memory :o) > >Cheers, >Norman. He he I have a talent for remembering useless facts and (as my wife would confirm) forgtting the really important things like her mum's birthday ;-)) -- Dilwyn Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.soft.net.uk/dj/index.html
RE: [ql-users] Euro equipped font and other news
Thanks Dilwyn, I knew when I read it back that the Abbey National wasn't correct, I just had a big black hole in my memory for the correct name. I hoped nobody would notice, I forgot about your memory :o) Cheers, Norman. - Norman Dunbar Database/Unix administrator Lynx Financial Systems Ltd. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Tel: 0113 289 6265 Fax: 0113 289 3146 URL: http://www.Lynx-FS.com - -Original Message- From: Dilwyn Jones [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 8:50 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [ql-users] Euro equipped font and other news Sorry to spoil your fun Norman. It was in fact the Commercial Union insurance company which ran that advert. This email is intended only for the use of the addressees named above and may be confidential or legally privileged. If you are not an addressee you must not read it and must not use any information contained in it, nor copy it, nor inform any person other than Lynx Financial Systems or the addressees of its existence or contents. If you have received this email and are not a named addressee, please delete it and notify the Lynx Financial Systems IT Department on 0113 2892990.
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Sorry to spoil your fun Norman. It was in fact the Commercial Union insurance company which ran that advert. As I was with them and had to make a claim I got to test that out! Also, Abbey National is now a bank, not a B.S. Kept Phoebus amuseed for 5 seconds though ;-)) And if he's as into British humour as he implies, we might send him Darren's QL Joke Book as punishment ;-)) -- Dilwyn Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.soft.net.uk/dj/index.html -Original Message- From: Norman Dunbar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: 04 January 2002 16:40 Subject: RE: [ql-users] Euro equipped font and other news OK Phoebus, a few years ago the Abbey National (a UK building society, also doing home insurance etc) had some ads on TV where they stated that when things go wrong and you needed to make a claim, just contact them and it will all be taken care of. The slogan was 'We won't make a drama out of a crisis'. My attempt at humour was a play on those very words. It failed, obviously! :o( Norman. - Norman Dunbar Database/Unix administrator Lynx Financial Systems Ltd. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Tel: 0113 289 6265 Fax: 0113 289 3146 URL: http://www.Lynx-FS.com - -Original Message- From: Phoebus R. Dokos [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 4:37 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [ql-users] Euro equipped font and other news At 04:22 ìì 4/1/2002 +, you wrote: Hmmm you lost me here :-) Please elaborate :-) And what is Abbey National... (A Bank I presume) If yes British banks Phoebus This email is intended only for the use of the addressees named above and may be confidential or legally privileged. If you are not an addressee you must not read it and must not use any information contained in it, nor copy it, nor inform any person other than Lynx Financial Systems or the addressees of its existence or contents. If you have received this email and are not a named addressee, please delete it and notify the Lynx Financial Systems IT Department on 0113 2892990.
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At 04:40 ìì 4/1/2002 +, you wrote: >OK Phoebus, > >a few years ago the Abbey National (a UK building society, also doing home >insurance etc) had some ads on TV where they stated that when things go >wrong and you needed to make a claim, just contact them and it will all be >taken care of. The slogan was 'We won't make a drama out of a crisis'. > >My attempt at humour was a play on those very words. It failed, obviously! >:o( > He better late that never though. It's still funny for me (I'm a sucker for British humour ;-))) >Norman. > > > >- >Norman Dunbar >Database/Unix administrator >Lynx Financial Systems Ltd. >mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Tel: 0113 289 6265 >Fax: 0113 289 3146 >URL: http://www.Lynx-FS.com >- > > >-Original Message- >From: Phoebus R. Dokos [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] >Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 4:37 PM >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: RE: [ql-users] Euro equipped font and other news > > >At 04:22 ìì 4/1/2002 +, you wrote: > >Hmmm you lost me here :-) Please elaborate :-) >And what is Abbey National... (A Bank I presume) If yes British banks > >Phoebus > >This email is intended only for the use of the addressees named above and >may be confidential or legally privileged. If you are not an addressee you >must not read it and must not use any information contained in it, nor copy >it, nor inform any person other than Lynx Financial Systems or the >addressees of its existence or contents. If you have received this email >and are not a named addressee, please delete it and notify the Lynx >Financial Systems IT Department on 0113 2892990.
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Of course a lot ;-) -Message d'origine- De : Phoebus R. Dokos [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Envoyé : vendredi 4 janvier 2002 17:33 À : [EMAIL PROTECTED] Objet : RE: [ql-users] Euro equipped font and other news With Thierry's CD ROM driver I could convert this system to the QL finally for use with the Reader or (the HTML reader I am currently writing that supports tables and colours) Anybody Interested?
RE: [ql-users] Euro equipped font and other news
OK Phoebus, a few years ago the Abbey National (a UK building society, also doing home insurance etc) had some ads on TV where they stated that when things go wrong and you needed to make a claim, just contact them and it will all be taken care of. The slogan was 'We won't make a drama out of a crisis'. My attempt at humour was a play on those very words. It failed, obviously! :o( Norman. - Norman Dunbar Database/Unix administrator Lynx Financial Systems Ltd. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Tel: 0113 289 6265 Fax: 0113 289 3146 URL: http://www.Lynx-FS.com - -Original Message- From: Phoebus R. Dokos [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 4:37 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [ql-users] Euro equipped font and other news At 04:22 ìì 4/1/2002 +, you wrote: Hmmm you lost me here :-) Please elaborate :-) And what is Abbey National... (A Bank I presume) If yes British banks Phoebus This email is intended only for the use of the addressees named above and may be confidential or legally privileged. If you are not an addressee you must not read it and must not use any information contained in it, nor copy it, nor inform any person other than Lynx Financial Systems or the addressees of its existence or contents. If you have received this email and are not a named addressee, please delete it and notify the Lynx Financial Systems IT Department on 0113 2892990.
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At 04:22 ìì 4/1/2002 +, you wrote: >Talking about Greek Currency, as we were . > >didn't the Athens branch of the Abbey National have to close down >because they couldn't make a Drachma out of a crisis ! > >:o) > >(You might need a memory that goes back a few years to figure that one out >!) Hmmm you lost me here :-) Please elaborate :-) And what is Abbey National... (A Bank I presume) If yes British banks in Greece (with the exception of Barclays) deal ONLY with the shipping business and although I would very much like to be one I am not a shipping magnate... Would be good though if my last name was Onassis ;-) I would have single-handedly saved the QL ;-) HEHE Phoebus
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At 05:18 ìì 4/1/2002 +0100, you wrote: >It's true that only some currency are associated with special symbol (Yen, >pound,...) and only one is known evrywhere (and part of Basic too). >It's true too that pff font are not very good on screen when they are very >nice on paper. Don't know why. The main problem is the lack of anti aliasing. Also I believe that the PFF format (Correct me if I am wrong Joachim) does not do two different renderings for small and medium to large sizes. Double rendering is a common practice for both Postscript and TrueType due to limitations of the output mediums (screens). As far as I know only NeXT machines didn't have that problem due to their Display Postscript system. In the case of PFF for speed considerations probably the rendering process is uniform for all sizes which leads to the problems that I mentioned. >About drachme : now that I download last Andrea Carpi Euro converter I have >a nice small greek flag ;-) Make sure it has 9 stripes ;- (One for each syllable of the phrase Freedom or Death ;-) (Starting and ending with blue) ;-) >Thank's for the trick You are welcome... although a lot more tricks for nice display were in my article for QL Today on "Windows-izing" ProWesS... (which is lost after my crash and has to be written again) :-( >Claude Phoebus P.S. I do not know if anyone is into linguistics or not but a long time ago I was part of a team converting the TLG (Thesaurus Linguae Graeca) and TLG-Phi CD-ROMS of UCI (University of California - Irvine) to a more readable (and FREE) format. I had created many multi-accented fonts (With the full complement of Hellenistic Period accents (SIX in total!) ) and a conversion program which among other things could print texts on LaserJet and ColorJet printers (PCL). The worst part of the TLG is that UCI thinks they hold a COPYRIGHT for heaven's sakes! on texts like the Bible or the Oddyssey... With Thierry's CD ROM driver I could convert this system to the QL finally for use with the Reader or (the HTML reader I am currently writing that supports tables and colours) Anybody Interested?
RE: [ql-users] Euro equipped font and other news
Talking about Greek Currency, as we were . didn't the Athens branch of the Abbey National have to close down because they couldn't make a Drachma out of a crisis ! :o) (You might need a memory that goes back a few years to figure that one out !) Regards, Norman. - Norman Dunbar Database/Unix administrator Lynx Financial Systems Ltd. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Tel: 0113 289 6265 Fax: 0113 289 3146 URL: http://www.Lynx-FS.com - This email is intended only for the use of the addressees named above and may be confidential or legally privileged. If you are not an addressee you must not read it and must not use any information contained in it, nor copy it, nor inform any person other than Lynx Financial Systems or the addressees of its existence or contents. If you have received this email and are not a named addressee, please delete it and notify the Lynx Financial Systems IT Department on 0113 2892990.
RE: [ql-users] Euro equipped font and other news
It's true that only some currency are associated with special symbol (Yen, pound,...) and only one is known evrywhere (and part of Basic too). It's true too that pff font are not very good on screen when they are very nice on paper. Don't know why. About drachme : now that I download last Andrea Carpi Euro converter I have a nice small greek flag ;-) Thank's for the trick Claude -Message d'origine- De : Phoebus R. Dokos [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Envoyé : vendredi 4 janvier 2002 16:59 À : [EMAIL PROTECTED] Objet : RE: [ql-users] Euro equipped font and other news At 04:40 ìì 4/1/2002 +0100, you wrote: >I think we need this symbols for years because of the past (not so easy to >cancelled) and UK. Ahhh don't be so sentimental... What can we (Greeks) say about the Drachma then? It's been around in one form or the other for around 2500 years now and it was NEVER included in any character sets... ;-) Do we hold a grudge or cling to the past??? nooo :-) Easy come... easy go :-) >I hope pff Euro symbol is more readable than SMS one so >that Americans dont think we are using $ in EU It is (in higher point sizes of course... ProForma Fonts appear really bad in lower resolutions allthough I have a couple of tricks - Read below) trust me...
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At 04:40 ìì 4/1/2002 +0100, you wrote: >I think we need this symbols for years because of the past (not so easy to >cancelled) and UK. Ahhh don't be so sentimental... What can we (Greeks) say about the Drachma then? It's been around in one form or the other for around 2500 years now and it was NEVER included in any character sets... ;-) Do we hold a grudge or cling to the past??? nooo :-) Easy come... easy go :-) >I hope pff Euro symbol is more readable than SMS one so >that Americans dont think we are using $ in EU It is (in higher point sizes of course... ProForma Fonts appear really bad in lower resolutions allthough I have a couple of tricks - Read below) trust me... Now about the tricks : In order to get good readability Any size above 9 pts will do. So set your configuration files to keep Swiss Latin resident and draw either 9, 10 or 12 pts for the system font. That way first and foremost it appears EXTREMELY fast. >BTW is there any way (a program) to know all the key combination available >on a given machine (except trial) ? Not that I know of... Marcel?
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I think we need this symbols for years because of the past (not so easy to cancelled) and UK. I hope pff Euro symbol is more readable than SMS one so that Americans dont think we are using $ in EU BTW is there any way (a program) to know all the key combination available on a given machine (except trial) ? Claude -Message d'origine- De : Dilwyn Jones [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Envoyé : vendredi 4 janvier 2002 16:30 À : [EMAIL PROTECTED] Objet : Re: [ql-users] Euro equipped font and other news (...) Phoebus Dokos wrote: This font has the Euro symbol at CHR$(181), or CTRL SHIFT u on UK keyboards. Alteernatively, Line Design users can use the entity name \paragraph\ to access the character as text in Line Design (useful if you don't know what key combinations needed for CHR$ 181 on your system - this was the old paragraph symbol I think in QDOS character sets but SMSQE uses 181 for its Euro symbol.) As Phoeebus hinted, what use can we find for the old EEuropean currency symbols in the character sets now. And how long do we need the pound symbol???
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Phoebus Dokos wrote: ->Finally and after many delays, the first font of my series of Euro equipped >fonts is out. It will be available together with Verdict (Verdana variant) >and Guardian (A Times variant if you get the "newspaper" hint ;-) from >Dilwyn's website (and its mirror in the US when I am done moving servers ;-) As soon as I get time to update the site, seem to be up to my ears in work lately despite being between jobs ;-) This font has the Euro symbol at CHR$(181), or CTRL SHIFT u on UK keyboards. Alteernatively, Line Design users can use the entity name \paragraph\ to access the character as text in Line Design (useful if you don't know what key combinations needed for CHR$ 181 on your system - this was the old paragraph symbol I think in QDOS character sets but SMSQE uses 181 for its Euro symbol.) As Phoeebus hinted, what use can we find for the old EEuropean currency symbols in the character sets now. And how long do we need the pound symbol??? >Also available from Dilwyn's website: WinBMP2PIC version 0.90 alpha which >is a version of Malcolm Lear's QL program for converting 24bit BMP files to >PIC format. This file lacks all Visual Basic Runtimes (which I can send to >you if you so require) and which were left out due to size and due to the >fact that many Windoze users have them through other programs. Ditto to above. TurboPTR update imminent too. -- Dilwyn Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.soft.net.uk/dj/index.html
[ql-users] Euro equipped font and other news
Hi all, Finally and after many delays, the first font of my series of Euro equipped fonts is out. It will be available together with Verdict (Verdana variant) and Guardian (A Times variant if you get the "newspaper" hint ;-) from Dilwyn's website (and its mirror in the US when I am done moving servers ;-) Also available from Dilwyn's website: WinBMP2PIC version 0.90 alpha which is a version of Malcolm Lear's QL program for converting 24bit BMP files to PIC format. This file lacks all Visual Basic Runtimes (which I can send to you if you so require) and which were left out due to size and due to the fact that many Windoze users have them through other programs. Phoebus
