RE: [ql-users] Sbasic extensions toolkits
Dilwyn, you must have so much stuff on your web site, that you have forgotton what you have :o) The source is available for download from your own web site. Cheers, Norman. PS. Most of the commands are 'specialised' names anyway and have not, so far, broken anything I use.. - Norman Dunbar Database/Unix administrator Lynx Financial Systems Ltd. mailto:Norman.Dunbar;LFS.co.uk Tel: 0113 289 6265 Fax: 0113 289 3146 URL: http://www.Lynx-FS.com - -Original Message- From: Dilwyn Jones [mailto:dilwyn.jones;dj.softnet.co.uk] Sent: Monday, October 28, 2002 7:36 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [ql-users] Sbasic extensions toolkits Hi Wolfgang, to get this started I'll send (privately) the list and binary for DJToolkit which Norman Dunbar wrote to my spec. If needed I'm sure I can get the source to you too. This email is intended only for the use of the addressees named above and may be confidential or legally privileged. If you are not an addressee you must not read it and must not use any information contained in it, nor copy it, nor inform any person other than Lynx Financial Systems or the addressees of its existence or contents. If you have received this email and are not a named addressee, please delete it and notify the Lynx Financial Systems IT Department on 0113 2892990.
RE: [ql-users] Turbo Compiled Programs
Hi Rich, if the 'executable' is something like Visual Basic, or any of the .NET stuff, or JAVA, then I believe that it can be done quite simply - because these langauages are interptreted (regardless of what MicxroSoft say on the matter). If the executable is a proper executable which was compiled down from source code to machine code, it is not so easy - certain optimisations may have changed the layout of the code, loops may have been unrolled etc etc - so it is very difficult. The best I've seen was a Windows disassembler which managed to decode all the calls to Windows routines and was thus able to show them as they were in the source, but the rest of the stuff is still in assembly language. Cheers, Norman. - Norman Dunbar Database/Unix administrator Lynx Financial Systems Ltd. mailto:Norman.Dunbar;LFS.co.uk Tel: 0113 289 6265 Fax: 0113 289 3146 URL: http://www.Lynx-FS.com - -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:RWAPSoftware;aol.com] Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2002 12:27 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [ql-users] Turbo Compiled Programs I know that one of the problems which any modern QL system faces is the users desire to use existing programs, rather than upgrade to new programs and need to follow a steep learning curve. Whatever happens, this means that to many people, QPC2 or the emulators are too difficult to use, because they will not work easily with x,y and z programs. We therefore need a way of maintaining and upgrading existing programs. We have plenty of assembly language tools (DEAssembler is excellent for getting the source code for a machine code program). However, many of the early commercial programs have been compiled with either Turbo or QLiberator. Is there any way of writing a program which will generate the source code for compiled programs?? -- Rich Mellor RWAP Software 35 Chantry Croft, Kinsley, Pontefract, West Yorkshire, WF9 5JH TEL: 01977 610509 http://hometown.aol.co.uk/rwapsoftware This email is intended only for the use of the addressees named above and may be confidential or legally privileged. If you are not an addressee you must not read it and must not use any information contained in it, nor copy it, nor inform any person other than Lynx Financial Systems or the addressees of its existence or contents. If you have received this email and are not a named addressee, please delete it and notify the Lynx Financial Systems IT Department on 0113 2892990.
Re: [ql-users] Hardware platforms
On Mon, 28 Oct 2002 23:20:14 - Stephen Meech [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: snip It's a pity the author didn't continue development. It's been a while now so he's almost certainly lost interest. During the course of QLAY's development, and subsequently, I had been under the impression that the author was working on QLAY as a partial requirement for a degree program [i.e., his sole motivation] ... and, he graduated before write the last bits of code. Consequently, Jan Venema has provided the source code so that someone else could finish the program -- essentially, FLP SERial support. I could be incorrect in my assumption as to Venema's motivation for writing QLAY. Al Stephen - Original Message - From: Al Feng To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, October 27, 2002 1:52 PM Subject: Re: [ql-users] Hardware platforms QLAY [downloadable freeware] _is_ a 100% QDOS [or, MINERVA] compatible emulator on a PC platform. There is a LINUX compatible version, too. QLAY will probably do 95% of what you are looking for. The current/persistent limitations of QLAY are its inability to communicate with SERial or FLP ... files are held on a WIN drive. QUILL files, for example, can be created and SAVEd, but must be PRINTed through DOS ... transfers must be done in DOS, etc. Non-text files may need to be ZIPped before being transferred through DOS for PC-disk to QL ... Both of the limitations [i.e., lack of FLP SERial support] can probably be overcome if a QLever QUANTA member (OR, any other QLingon reading this LIST) who can write machine code (or, assembly?) would complete the code. SBYTEd dongled-TK2_code can be used with QLAY. I have read that QLAY is much slower than QPC when run on the same platform (factor of 3?). AFAIK, QLAY's speed is dependent on the host platform's speed -- I think that on anything faster than a 66MHz PC, QLAY will be faster than the original QL. Again, the QPC emulation will be much faster on a faster host platform. --- -- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.408 / Virus Database: 230 - Release Date: 25/10/2002 Sign Up for Juno Platinum Internet Access Today Only $9.95 per month! Visit www.juno.com
Re: [ql-users] Hardware platforms
On Tue, 29 Oct 2002, Roy Wood wrote: Insider talk has it that Motorola will soon pull out of chip manufacture altogether. That is indeed insider talk. Apple is repositioning to use IBM manufactured parts. The cell chip part of the business is moving to using foundries... Dave
Re: [ql-users] Hardware platforms
On Mon, 28 Oct 2002 at 20:15:35, =?windows-1253?Q?=D6=EF=DF=E2=EF=F2=20 =D1.=20=CD=F4=FC=EA=EF=F2?= wrote: (ref: HCZW3VC95Y3V7WV61HBZX8A04ZOMQK.3dbde137@quantumcentral) ??? 28/10/2002 6:29:33 ??, ?/? Tony Firshman [EMAIL PROTECTED] ??: BTW Tony, loved the plumbing at Bill's house ;-) Mighty nifty as my wife says :-) For those who don't know, this was a gravity fed spring water system that Bill and I installed 18 months ago. He gets fresh cold spring water from a tap in his kitchen! Most of you will know Bill lives in a Vermont forest in a house he built himself, and lives off wind and solar power (mainly). -- QBBS (QL fido BBS 2:252/67) +44(0)1442-828255 tony@surname.demon.co.uk http://www.firshman.demon.co.uk Voice: +44(0)1442-828254 Fax: +44(0)1442-828255 TF Services, 29 Longfield Road, TRING, Herts, HP23 4DG
Re: [ql-users] Hardware platforms
:Dave P Wrote:- If more of the people on this list subscribed to QL Today and/or Quanta, they would be able to inform you that the full version of QPC2 v3 costs £65 from QBranch, or Eur 99,90 from Jochen Merz. *grins* So how come it's so much cheaper from QBranch? 65 quid is a lot less than 100 euros... Dave Errr... No it ain't. 100 Euros is roughly 63.19 UK pounds as per xe.com today. Darren.
Re: [ql-users] Hardware platforms
I must have missed your previous message. Are you suggesting the acquisition of an Amiga and QDOS Classic as a good alternative to Qlay? How does this relate to the PC filesystem? What is UAE? Stephen - Original Message - From: ?? ?. ?? [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 28, 2002 11:44 PM Subject: Re: [ql-users] Hardware platforms As I said, if you wanna do something more than just use an emulator yet you still want it to be free, get UAE and QDOS Classic for Amiga (either the ROM flavour or the complete program, which will also give you native access to the PC filesystem and other neat goodies) --- -- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.408 / Virus Database: 230 - Release Date: 24/10/2002
Re: [ql-users] Hardware platforms
On Tue, 29 Oct 2002, Phoebus Dokos wrote: The weather included a bit of snow but no wind to show off the new Bergey XL1 wind machine. It did power up for a little bit (about half an hour Sunday morning right after the clouds came) - I have two consecutive pictures of it turning :-) Those would be, uhhh, *still* pictures, right? *sarcasto-ironicism ahoy!* Dave
[ql-users] The Wall, etc, etc
Can anybody please explain why, using QPC 3.03, I get a pleasant noise from the Wall under Windows 98 and a rather nasty noise for the same thing under Windows XP? I would love to be able to kill the XP noise, somehow Regards, Peter Fox
Re: [ql-users] Hardware platforms
At 03:49 ìì 29/10/2002, you wrote: On Tue, 29 Oct 2002, Phoebus Dokos wrote: The weather included a bit of snow but no wind to show off the new Bergey XL1 wind machine. It did power up for a little bit (about half an hour Sunday morning right after the clouds came) - I have two consecutive pictures of it turning :-) Those would be, uhhh, *still* pictures, right? *sarcasto-ironicism ahoy!* With 1 sec delay between them... well YES you can see the blades moving... not that anything else can move them as they are 30 ft up in the air :P~~`(There) Dave Phoebus
Re: [ql-users] Hardware platforms
On Tue, 29 Oct 2002, Phoebus Dokos wrote: Those would be, uhhh, *still* pictures, right? *sarcasto-ironicism ahoy!* With 1 sec delay between them... well YES you can see the blades moving... not that anything else can move them as they are 30 ft up in the air OMG! I know this is a little OT, but guess what new paperwork they just introduced at work. TPS Reports! TPS Reports! Dave PS: See: Office Space
Re: [ql-users] Sbasic extensions toolkits
On Tue, 29 Oct 2002 at 18:11:58, Dilwyn Jones wrote: (ref: 004901c27f7a$21a515c0$a1075cc3blackpc) you must have so much stuff on your web site, that you have forgotton what you have :o) The source is available for download from your own web site. Just my job driving me towards a nervous breakdown...no time to do anything at all, even less enthusiasm for anything at all at the moment. Am absolutely DESPERATE to change jobs at the moment. Dilwyn - I have never know you _not_ desperate to change jobs (8-)# -- QBBS (QL fido BBS 2:252/67) +44(0)1442-828255 tonysurname.demon.co.uk http://www.firshman.demon.co.uk Voice: +44(0)1442-828254 Fax: +44(0)1442-828255 TF Services, 29 Longfield Road, TRING, Herts, HP23 4DG
Re: [ql-users] Hardware platforms
On 29/10/02 at 22:15 Dave P wrote: OMG! I know this is a little OT, but guess what new paperwork they just introduced at work. TPS Reports! TPS Reports! PS: See: Office Space Well, look out for the evaluators and optimizers (= consultants) I've recently visited friends in Greenville SC, they work at Fluor-Daniel, my would-be employers, before 9/11, that is. Apparently management has been poring through every TRS employee (Temporary Recruitment Service), which is what I would have been, apparently figuring to cut as many jobs as they can. So there you have it, even if I had gotten that job, they would probably throw me out. So I'd be more or less in the trouble I'm in right now... Nasta
Re: [ql-users] Keyboard Membranes
Hi I am interested in 2 membranes, but I haveinterested people. In the end I calculate we will be able to need 7 membranes. I am sure that there is more people interested outside this list. Greetings Javier Guerra Sinclair QL Spanish Resources http://badared.com/QL - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2002 10:34 PM Subject: [ql-users] Keyboard Membranes Well,It is a sad thing to say that only 5 people have added their details to the mini-poll I was running on the keyboard membranes. I wonder if anyone else has received more response after several people on this list seemed to want new membranes??Maybe it just reflects the fact that people on this list are not willing to actually put their money on the table (or am I wrong), or more hopefully, it is that the people on this list are using an emulator and therefore don't need a working proper QL!!--Rich Mellor RWAP Software35 Chantry Croft, Kinsley, Pontefract, West Yorkshire, WF9 5JHTEL: 01977 610509http://hometown.aol.co.uk/rwapsoftware
Re: [ql-users] Mode 33
On Tue, 29 Oct 2002 18:06:46 - Dilwyn Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: } Convert mode 32 and 33 screens or PIC files to Windows graphics files } like BMP or GIF or JPG or whatever. I also have a pic2bmp program that work fine on my Q40 and QPC. (as well as with native mode 4 and mode 8!) What about the other way, say a BMP2PIC converter, as I want to use my Q60/QPC/Atari QL/QL to view the graphics files. Derek
Re: [ql-users] Mode 33
At 06:43 ìì 29/10/2002, you wrote: On Tue, 29 Oct 2002 18:06:46 - Dilwyn Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: } Convert mode 32 and 33 screens or PIC files to Windows graphics files } like BMP or GIF or JPG or whatever. I also have a pic2bmp program that work fine on my Q40 and QPC. (as well as with native mode 4 and mode 8!) What about the other way, say a BMP2PIC converter, as I want to use my Q60/QPC/Atari QL/QL to view the graphics files. There are a couple, mine (Runs under Windows) and Malcolm Lear's (Runs under QDOS), both available at Dilwyn's site... However the version of my BMP2PIC that's on Dilwyn's site doesn't convert to Mode 33 (The newest version does as well as cross conversion)... I'll try to compile it today and send it via separate mail tomorrow... Phoebus
Re: [ql-users] Mode 33
??? 29/10/2002 7:28:26 ??, ?/? Derek Stewart [EMAIL PROTECTED] ??: On Tue, 29 Oct 2002 18:07:51 -0500 Phoebus Dokos [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks, but I do not use a Windows based PC now, gone to Linux totally, Q60 Linux for Email and the PC has Redhat 7.3 on it. Much better than Windows... Hmmm in that case I should port it to X-Basic then ;-) (Runs under Linux as well) Phoebus
Re: [ql-users] Keyboard Membranes
I think that you are jumping to very wrong conclusions. I do not think that anybody was obliged to sign in your personal mini-poll. Alot of people (including me) have expressed their interest so far in public. I believe that you should be (personally) worried why no one signed in your personal mini-poll :-) Is everybody avoiding you ? :-))) Cheers - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2002 11:34 PM Subject: [ql-users] Keyboard Membranes Well,It is a sad thing to say that only 5 people have added their details to the mini-poll I was running on the keyboard membranes. I wonder if anyone else has received more response after several people on this list seemed to want new membranes??Maybe it just reflects the fact that people on this list are not willing to actually put their money on the table (or am I wrong), or more hopefully, it is that the people on this list are using an emulator and therefore don't need a working proper QL!!--Rich Mellor RWAP Software35 Chantry Croft, Kinsley, Pontefract, West Yorkshire, WF9 5JHTEL: 01977 610509http://hometown.aol.co.uk/rwapsoftware
Re: [ql-users] Hardware platforms
Dave P writes: Ok, let me elucidate my vision... I think if it's tiny, and looks like a super-PDA, and has a rechargeable battery but less expansion, it could also find a market. I'm not comfortable in the capability of the community to produce timely or suitable software for that format though... I like it ;) Now there are GHz+ embedded ARM processors, I still consider the whole hidden-emulated possibility, just because it lowers costs so much, but on the other hand people want an actual QL. What to do, what to do... I guess the real question is that if one were to forget about all performance considerations, and were just to try and reproduce the QL exactly, but with modern interfaces on-board, how much would this save? I have mentioned this a number of times before, I know, but no one has ever put me out of my misery: What about those (non-Motorola) CPUs with m68 microcode emulation? Per
Re: [ql-users] NESQLUG website, Q-Word etc...
Phoebus Dokos writes: Q-Word? I must have missed something here. What is it? Per
Re: [ql-users] Vintage Computer Festival
Timothy Swenson writes: Time for a little Sinclair news from the West Coast. I attended the 5th Nice one, Tim. ;) Hope you're number one next year! Per
Re: [ql-users] Hardware platforms
Tony Firshman writes: IBOX - the thought in the mind of me and Stuart, went a fair way down this route. I even started building a prototype. It was planned have Minerva/68xxx/pic. It was primarily for I/O but could easily have had keyboard and some sort of display. and it would have fitted inside a 36 way D housing. And I still think it would be a great idea to build it! Swap Minerva out with SMSQ/E or allow both. Per
Re: [ql-users] Hardware platforms
Stephen Meech writes: There are other problems with QLAY such as it's inability to utilise ToolkitII's directory handling commands (DEST_USE etc), it's instability when trying to run games and, for me, its failure to update's Minerva's second screen whilst displaying it. The Qlayt tools are fiddly on the PC. Whilst recognising some of the arguments for hardware development I am sure there are more people like me out there, who would like to continue to play with QLAY and some time spent as a project improving it would be the best way of maintaining the QL community in the future. I don't think there is any money in it though! It's a pity the author didn't continue development. It's been a while now so he's almost certainly lost interest. Any problem with QPC2? It is a quantum leap ahead of the competition in that it runs SMSQ/E. It is currently supported by probably the only ace programmer active on the QL scene (sorry Marcel ;) It is stable and fast (efficient), and can access most essential devices of a modern computer, such as hard disks, CD ROMS, large screens (in 65k colours), printers, modems, etc. A very proficient and comfortable performer indeed - and for what it is and does - cheap! The only thing it isnt is a hardware QL. Per
Re: [ql-users] Sbasic extensions toolkits
Wolfgang writes: I've read this thread about names clashes in toolkits etc. with quite some interest. 3 - As a guideline, perhaps authors of future toolkits might want to envisage that they should, indeed, preface their extensions with, say, their initials, such as WL_ASEARCH instead of ASEARCH etc. This depends, of course, on your cooperation, but it might make future clashes less likely. What do you think? Toolkits will often be grouped for special purposes, such as array manipulation, string parsing, or to manipulate some low-level object (such as a database or timer, etc). Wouldnt it be more logical and aesthetically pleasing to use prefixes such as MAT_, STR_, DB_, CLK_, etc rather than WL_ or PJW_ ? Per
Re: [ql-users] The Wall, etc, etc
Peter Fox wrote: Can anybody please explain why, using QPC 3.03, I get a pleasant noise from the Wall under Windows 98 and a rather nasty noise for the same thing under Windows XP? Strange as with 3.03 the sound code is almost exactly the same on both OSs. I would love to be able to kill the XP noise, somehow You can configure SMSQE.BIN manually using MenuConfig and disable sound/reduce volume. Marcel
Re: [ql-users] Sbasic extensions toolkits
On 30 Oct 2002, at 1:10, P Witte wrote: Toolkits will often be grouped for special purposes, such as array manipulation, string parsing, or to manipulate some low-level object (such as a database or timer, etc). Wouldnt it be more logical and aesthetically pleasing to use prefixes such as MAT_, STR_, DB_, CLK_, etc rather than WL_ or PJW_ ? Two things: 1 - don't forget the author's vanity :-) 2 - What if two people write similar keywords for the same thing? Wolfgang
Re: [ql-users] Mode 33
On 29 Oct 2002, at 23:43, Derek Stewart wrote: (...) What about the other way, say a BMP2PIC converter, as I want to use my Q60/QPC/Atari QL/QL to view the graphics files. Derek I wrote something like that some time ago,as a basic keyword IIRC. Do you want me to send it to you directly? Wolfgang
Re: [ql-users] The Wall, etc, etc
Peter, You might make sure that your XP audio drivers are completely up to date. There have been many early driver issues with XP that were or are being fixed. Some of these problems will not always be noticed with some operations but may with other calls to the system. Jim On Tuesday, October 29, 2002, at 05:31 PM, Marcel Kilgus wrote: Peter Fox wrote: Can anybody please explain why, using QPC 3.03, I get a pleasant noise from the Wall under Windows 98 and a rather nasty noise for the same thing under Windows XP? Strange as with 3.03 the sound code is almost exactly the same on both OSs. I would love to be able to kill the XP noise, somehow You can configure SMSQE.BIN manually using MenuConfig and disable sound/reduce volume. Marcel
