how to using maildrop
hi, all I have two questions: 1. How to running maildrop at boot ( my system: redhat v6.0 ) ? 2. How to usingfiltering language by maildrop to get the "personal name" of To: header ? Example: To: "personal name" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks for your reply. xww
How to unsubscribe from qmail mailin list?
Halo, May I know how could I unsubscribe from qmail mailin list? Thanks way
qmail Digest 30 Aug 1999 10:00:01 -0000 Issue 744
qmail Digest 30 Aug 1999 10:00:01 - Issue 744 Topics (messages 29565 through 29590): INSTALL.alias 29565 by: "Subba Rao" [EMAIL PROTECTED] 29566 by: Magnus Bodin [EMAIL PROTECTED] 29569 by: "Subba Rao" [EMAIL PROTECTED] huh, again 29567 by: "Luka Gerzic" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Is this the way? 29568 by: "Subba Rao" [EMAIL PROTECTED] 29572 by: "David Harris" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Can default configuration handle http://maps.vix.com/tsi/ar-test.html ? 29570 by: Markus Fischer [EMAIL PROTECTED] 29571 by: Russ Allbery [EMAIL PROTECTED] TEST.deliver 29573 by: "Subba Rao" [EMAIL PROTECTED] .qmail-news doesn't work 29574 by: Sergei Kolobov [EMAIL PROTECTED] 29579 by: "Jeff Taylor" [EMAIL PROTECTED] colons-dots in fastforward [was: Re: ISP Needs Qmail for *thousands* of third-level (foo.bar.com) domains!] 29575 by: Peter Gradwell [EMAIL PROTECTED] can't deliver messages 29576 by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] stralloc allocation 29577 by: Daemeon Reiydelle [EMAIL PROTECTED] qmail as a front end to e.g. Corba 29578 by: Daemeon Reiydelle [EMAIL PROTECTED] Qmail Install stall 29580 by: "Subba Rao" [EMAIL PROTECTED] SMTP deliver block... 29581 by: "Scott D. Yelich" [EMAIL PROTECTED] 29582 by: Russell Nelson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Qmail - deliver locally to users in UNIX groups? 29583 by: "Simon Elder" [EMAIL PROTECTED] New to Qmail 29584 by: "Matt Mouser" [EMAIL PROTECTED] 29585 by: "Peter C. Norton" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Qmail delivery errors 29586 by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] how to use my database when qmail to delieve letters to a users?? 29587 by: "Baike" [EMAIL PROTECTED] how to using maildrop 29588 by: "x" [EMAIL PROTECTED] 29589 by: "x" [EMAIL PROTECTED] How to unsubscribe from qmail mailin list? 29590 by: KokWay Heng [EMAIL PROTECTED] Administrivia: To subscribe to the digest, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe from the digest, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To bug my human owner, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To post to the list, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- I am at the INSTALL.alias portion of installing the Qmail. The following commands used for Postmaster, MAILER-DAEMON and on... ~/alias/.qmail-postmaster ~/alias/Mailbox Is the ~ for user (/home/username/alias) OR for Qmail (/var/qmail/alias)? If it is for the user, is it root? Thank you for any help. Subba Rao [EMAIL PROTECTED] == Disclaimer - I question and speak for myself. http://pws.prserv.net/truemax/ __ On Sun, 29 Aug 1999, Subba Rao wrote: I am at the INSTALL.alias portion of installing the Qmail. The following commands used for Postmaster, MAILER-DAEMON and on... ~/alias/.qmail-postmaster ~/alias/Mailbox Is the ~ for user (/home/username/alias) OR for Qmail (/var/qmail/alias)? If it is for the user, is it root? it's ~alias/.qmail-postmaster ~alias/Mailbox and ~alias is the same as "the alias users home directory". This is usually /var/qmail/alias. /magnus -- "MOST USELESS site of the year 1998" -- http://x42.com/ Thank you very much for the input. I reread the document and got that straight. Thanks again. Subba Rao [EMAIL PROTECTED] == Disclaimer - I question and speak for myself. http://pws.prserv.net/truemax/ __ On Sun, 29 Aug 1999 13:09:57 +0200 (CEST), Magnus Bodin wrote: On Sun, 29 Aug 1999, Subba Rao wrote: I am at the INSTALL.alias portion of installing the Qmail. The following commands used for Postmaster, MAILER-DAEMON and on... ~/alias/.qmail-postmaster ~/alias/Mailbox Is the ~ for user (/home/username/alias) OR for Qmail (/var/qmail/alias)? If it is for the user, is it root? it's ~alias/.qmail-postmaster ~alias/Mailbox and ~alias is the same as "the alias users home directory". This is usually /var/qmail/alias. /magnus -- "MOST USELESS site of the year 1998" -- http://x42.com/ - Original Message - From: Olivier M. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Luka Gerzic [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, August 29, 1999 9:06 AM Subject: Re: huh, again On Sun, Aug 29, 1999 at 03:52:44PM +0200, Luka Gerzic wrote: what's best script/software to make all (about 16k) /var/spool/mail/ mailboxes to qmail maildir format ? is there anychance that someone write program that do that ? or i must do all by hand ? Do you know Perl ? :) It should be easy to write a 10 lines script that parses your /etc/passwd file and run the appropriate mbox2maildir command. no i don't know perl or any kind of programing 8( anyone
Re: Is this the way?
"Subba Rao" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: root@caesar:/var/spool/mail# ln -s /var/spool/mail/root ~/Mailbox/root qmail doesn't deliver to root. See: http://Web.InfoAve.Net/~dsill/lwq.html#root-delivery -Dave
Re: SIGHUP and qmail-send
On Fri, Aug 27, 1999 at 02:07:09PM -0400, Johnson , William (Contractor) wrote: It re-reads the control/locals and control/virtualdomains files. No daemons are killed. What exactly happens when qmail-send is sent a SIGHUP? Does it force the sub-daemons to quit and reload themselves? Bill -- See complete headers for more info
Re: POP3 users
Sergio Henrique Oliveira Pereira [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How do I set up maildir delivery for user who wants to read mail via POP ? See: http://Web.InfoAve.Net/~dsill/lwq.html#dot-qmail-files -Dave
Re: TEST.deliver
Thank you very much for replying. When I use the "ps -waux" options, I do see the processes. Yesterday, late in the evening, I tried to test sending local mail between 2 local users. This was the following command. $ mail user2 .profile It went into sendmailq. The "mailq" command lists it as a sendmail job. If all the daemons are up and running, then why didn't the mail get delivered to user2? Thank you once again. Subba Rao [EMAIL PROTECTED] == Disclaimer - I question and speak for myself. http://pws.prserv.net/truemax/ __ On Mon, 30 Aug 1999 09:05:26 -0400 (EDT), Dave Sill wrote: "Subba Rao" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The syslog does have an "status" entry for qmail. However the processes listing shows only qmail-lspawn ./Mailbox There are no qmail-rspawn qmail-clean splogger What OS are you using? What "ps" command did you use? See: http://Web.InfoAve.Net/~dsill/lwq.html#processes -Dave
ezmlm+idx in italian !!
Hi, I just installed ezmlm-idx. I did evrything in the 'INSTALL.idx' and the 'make fr' in order to get french messages. But I get italians msg ! I did a 'make clean; make; make man; make fr' then I did 'rm -rf DIR' and 'rm -rf /home/user/.qm*' and I recreated a list with ezmlm-make and msg in DIR/text/ are still in italian ! Why ? Thank you !
Re: TEST.deliver
"Subba Rao" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thank you very much for replying. When I use the "ps -waux" options, I do see the processes. You're welcome. Glad that helped. $ mail user2 .profile It went into sendmailq. The "mailq" command lists it as a sendmail job. If all the daemons are up and running, then why didn't the mail get delivered to user2? Because /usr/lib/sendmail and/or /usr/sbin/sendmail still point(s) to Sendmail, not /var/qmail/bin/sendmail. Do: mv /usr/lib/sendmail /usr/lib/sendmail.old# ignore errors mv /usr/sbin/sendmail /usr/sbin/sendmail.old # ignore errors chmod 0 /usr/lib/sendmail.old /usr/sbin/sendmail.old # ignore errors ln -s /var/qmail/bin/sendmail /usr/lib ln -s /var/qmail/bin/sendmail /usr/sbin -Dave
Re: ISP Needs Qmail for *thousands* of third-level (foo.bar.com) domains!
On Thu, Aug 26, 1999 at 05:44:20PM -0400, John R. Levine wrote: We need to accept incoming mail for thousands of third-level domains (e.g. foo.bar.com). Then we need to forward all mail for each third-level domain to an email address specified by the third-level domain's owner. [...] Hmmm. Considering another option, what about a cool Web interface enabling the domain's owner to access email sent to their domain (e.g. foo.bar.com), with Qmail on the backend? I would suggest to take a look at hypermart.net, they are using qmail to manage their massive virtual domains since about a year. -- Regards, Jose Luis Painceira
Very strange error Lotus SMTP taking to qmail
Can anybody explain this? I don't know what's going on at the receiving MTA (i.e. the host name it thinks its talking to is not present anywhere in the dialog) and I don't understand why this is seen by qmail as as temporary error (which is good as such) when the smtp code appears to be 500: 1 2.10 Connected to 164.53.88.23 but my name was rejected./Remote host said: 500 Session already established. The domain name [yankees.cybercon.com] passed in with HELO will be ignored. The current domain name of sending SMTP is [lbmail4.listbot.com]./ 1 1.54 Connected to 164.53.88.23 but my name was rejected./Remote host said: 500 Session already established. The domain name [yankees.cybercon.com] passed in with HELO will be ignored. The current domain name of sending SMTP is [mail.daytimer.com.au]./ 1 1.77 Connected to 164.53.88.23 but my name was rejected./Remote host said: 500 Session already established. The domain name [yankees.cybercon.com] passed in with HELO will be ignored. The current domain name of sending SMTP is [mail6.motleyfool.com]./ [...] the matchup output for the last one of these: d z 935816175.638526 935836917.492611 935836919.267045 22558 -return-5-@ lists.bestnet.net-@[] [EMAIL PROTECTED] 9485 501 Connected_ to_164.53.88.23_but_my_name_was_rejected./Remote_host_said:_500_Session_ already_ established._The_domain_name_[yankees.cybercon.com]_passed_in_with_HELO_ will_be_ ignored._The_current_domain_name_of_sending_SMTP_is_[mail6.motleyfool.co m]./ [xx = list name, yy = recipient local name] telnet to 164.53.88.23 smtp: 220 smtpnag01.national.com.au Lotus SMTP MTA Service Ready helo dimwhit 250 smtpnag01.national.com.au Thanks for any insights! -Sincerely, Fred (Frederik Lindberg, Infectious Diseases, WashU, St. Louis, MO, USA)
Virtual Domains?
I need away to have two virtual domains that deliver to the same email account. For example, [EMAIL PROTECTED] and [EMAIL PROTECTED], both deliver to the same pop account, and are picked up with derek%foo.com. Thanks Derek
a bug?
Hi, I've just installed qmail on my system and i have little trouble with aliases... When i use alias like marc ir johndoe everything is ok (.qmail-johndoe), but when i'm trying to set marcin.jaskowiak alias the system (log) response that there is no such user (.qmail-marcin.jaskowiak). Anyone has done such a things? Thanks, Marcin Jaskowiak
Re: a bug?
Marcin Jaskowiak writes: Hi, I've just installed qmail on my system and i have little trouble with aliases... When i use alias like marc ir johndoe everything is ok (.qmail-johndoe), but when i'm trying to set marcin.jaskowiak alias the system (log) response that there is no such user (.qmail-marcin.jaskowiak). Anyone has done such a things? Yes, and it *never* works. See FAQ 4.6, or else run http://www.qmail.org/qmail-lint-0.53 . -- -russ nelson [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://russnelson.com Crynwr sells support for free software | PGPok | Government schools are so 521 Pleasant Valley Rd. | +1 315 268 1925 voice | bad that any rank amateur Potsdam, NY 13676-3213 | +1 315 268 9201 FAX | can outdo them. Homeschool!
Re: ezmlm+idx in italian !!
At 4:18 pm +0200 30/8/99,the wonderful Dimitri SZAJMAN wrote: Hi, I just installed ezmlm-idx. I did evrything in the 'INSTALL.idx' and the 'make fr' in order to get french messages. But I get italians msg ! I did a 'make clean; make; make man; make fr' then I did 'rm -rf DIR' and 'rm -rf /home/user/.qm*' and I recreated a list with ezmlm-make and msg in DIR/text/ are still in italian ! Why ? from the ezmlm list: Cause: To add the ezmlmrc.it file with target "it" I changed the default target to "itall". The problem is that "it" is a dependency of "setup:". Thus, "make setup" will copy ezmlmrc.it to ezmlmrc. I did testing in the build dir or via rpm so didn't see this. Fix: There are several options: 1. learn Italian 2. after make setup, do cp ezmlmrc.en_US /usr/local/bin/ezmlm/ezmlmrc [or wherever your ezmlm binaries live]. 3. Apply the patch below, then "make en_US; make setup". The make en_US is not needed if you haven't previously "make setup". If you made Italian lists, remove DIR/text/* and do ezmlm-make -+ DIR. [..] This patch is also available as ftp://ftp.id.wustl.edu/pub/patches/Makefile-0.323.diff hth peter -- peter at gradwell dot com; http://www.gradwell.com/ gradwell dot com Ltd. Enabling the internet you don't see. ** Cheap and easy ecommerce: http://www.gradwell.net/ **
another?
Hello. Does anyone know a way to deny fake domains from delivery? e.g.: telnet somehost 25 mail from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] rcpt to: angel data die . It's kind of spam-friendly... anyone? Sincerely, Marcin Jaskowiak
Some SRPMS
Hello everybody, I just have setup some source-rpms for: - checkpassword with the open-smtp Patch by Russel and my somewhat improved scripts - fastforward which comes with a .qmail-default and a "standard" /etc/aliases-file. You will find them at http://www.webideal.de/qmail/ Regards Mirko
Re: POP3 users
On Mon, 30 Aug 1999 at 9:44:56 -0400, Dave Sill wrote: Sergio Henrique Oliveira Pereira [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How do I set up maildir delivery for user who wants to read mail via POP ? See: http://Web.InfoAve.Net/~dsill/lwq.html#dot-qmail-files I've understood Sergio's question other way... I may be wrong but maybe he wondered which POP servers can serve mail from Maildir format. If so: included in qmail is "qmail-pop3d". I don't remember if some other servers understand Maildir. You may want to search the list archives: http://www.ornl.gov/cts/archives/mailing-lists/qmail/ -- Tomasz Papszun SysAdm @ TP S.A. Lodz, Poland | And it's only [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.lodz.tpsa.pl/ | ones and zeros.
Re: POP3 users
Ok ... I get solve my problem . . . I put in my /etc/inetd.conf the line "pop3 stream tcp nowait root ...etc" but ... my /etc/services was .."pop-3 110/tcp" thanks everybody On Mon, 30 Aug 1999, Tomasz Papszun wrote: On Mon, 30 Aug 1999 at 9:44:56 -0400, Dave Sill wrote: Sergio Henrique Oliveira Pereira [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How do I set up maildir delivery for user who wants to read mail via POP ? See: http://Web.InfoAve.Net/~dsill/lwq.html#dot-qmail-files I've understood Sergio's question other way... I may be wrong but maybe he wondered which POP servers can serve mail from Maildir format. If so: included in qmail is "qmail-pop3d". I don't remember if some other servers understand Maildir. You may want to search the list archives: http://www.ornl.gov/cts/archives/mailing-lists/qmail/ -- Tomasz Papszun SysAdm @ TP S.A. Lodz, Poland | And it's only [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.lodz.tpsa.pl/ | ones and zeros. __ Sergio Henrique O. PereiraAnalista de Sistemas AInfo - Univ. Mogi da Cruzes/OMEC e Redes Fone: +55 011 4798.7042 Fax : +55 011 4798.7261 Linux User #105720 ICQ : 3428356
wildcards in fastforward?
I have two machines, A.server.com and B.server.com. A.server.com has fastforward and forwards all email to b.server.com. (a.server.com is a mail gateway in this case) i have a mailling list on b.server.com, i.e: [EMAIL PROTECTED] billing is the listname since A is the gateway, mail sent to info-billing goes to A.server first, andn then forwards appropriately. now it doesnt work... i get a bounce back saying the user doesnt exist. in my alias i got: info: [EMAIL PROTECTED] if i send [EMAIL PROTECTED] this will not work. any ideas on how i can fix it? can i specific info*: [EMAIL PROTECTED]? thanks.
How to truncate the mailer-daemo failure notice?
Hi, When I send a message with an attachment with 3mb for an invalid user, the hole message backs to the sender, notifying him that: - Hi. This is the qmail-send program at . I'm afraid I wasn't able to deliver your message to the following addresses. This is a permanent error; I've given up. Sorry it didn't work out. [EMAIL PROTECTED]: slslsl:domain.com:domain.com --- Below this line is a copy of the message. Is it possible the put just the header of the message or just a few lines? Best regards, Ari
rblsmtp and more than 1 domain?
How do I configure rblsmtpd to check against more than ex. rbl.maps.vix.com? Do I have to run it over and over again ;) like this? supervise /var/lock/qmail-smtpd \ tcpserver -v -c40 -x /etc/qmail-smtpd.cdb -u1000 -g1000 0 25 \ rblsmtpd -b -R rblsmtpd -b -R -rdul.maps.vix.com rblsmtpd -b -R -rrelays.orbs.org \ qmail-smtpd 21| setuser qmaill accustamp \ | setuser qmaill cyclog 100 /var/log/qmail-smtpd --- IDG New Media Einar Bordewich System Manager Phone: +47 2205 3034 E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---
Re: How to truncate the mailer-daemo failure notice?
Ari Arantes Filho writes: When I send a message with an attachment with 3mb for an invalid user, the hole message backs to the sender, notifying him that: Is it possible the put just the header of the message or just a few lines? Sure it's possible. Anything is possible -- that's why we have computers. The question is whether it's desirable. Basically, if you don't bounce the whole email back to the user, how are they to re-send it to the right address? An MTA can't count on them having kept a copy. -- -russ nelson [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://russnelson.com Crynwr sells support for free software | PGPok | Government schools are so 521 Pleasant Valley Rd. | +1 315 268 1925 voice | bad that any rank amateur Potsdam, NY 13676-3213 | +1 315 268 9201 FAX | can outdo them. Homeschool!
Re: How to truncate the mailer-daemo failure notice?
Ok, but my concern is with big attachments/traffic and in the failure notice the attachment doesn't return like attachment, it's part of the body of the message, so the user is unable to re-send correctly to the right address. -Original Message- From: Russell Nelson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Segunda-feira, 30 de Agosto de 1999 15:33 Subject: Re: How to truncate the mailer-daemo failure notice? Ari Arantes Filho writes: When I send a message with an attachment with 3mb for an invalid user, the hole message backs to the sender, notifying him that: Is it possible the put just the header of the message or just a few lines? Sure it's possible. Anything is possible -- that's why we have computers. The question is whether it's desirable. Basically, if you don't bounce the whole email back to the user, how are they to re-send it to the right address? An MTA can't count on them having kept a copy. -- -russ nelson [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://russnelson.com Crynwr sells support for free software | PGPok | Government schools are so 521 Pleasant Valley Rd. | +1 315 268 1925 voice | bad that any rank amateur Potsdam, NY 13676-3213 | +1 315 268 9201 FAX | can outdo them. Homeschool!
Re: How to truncate the mailer-daemo failure notice?
Ari Arantes Filho writes: Ok, but my concern is with big attachments/traffic and in the failure notice the attachment doesn't return like attachment, it's part of the body of the message, so the user is unable to re-send correctly to the right address. I don't know about that. When I hit Alt-R in XEmacs's VM facility, I get the message in a message-send buffer, ready to be edited and re-sent. Perhaps other MUA software isn't as good, but that's something the users of the MUA could ask the author of the MUA to fix. -- -russ nelson [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://russnelson.com Crynwr sells support for free software | PGPok | Government schools are so 521 Pleasant Valley Rd. | +1 315 268 1925 voice | bad that any rank amateur Potsdam, NY 13676-3213 | +1 315 268 9201 FAX | can outdo them. Homeschool!
User variable
I'm using qmail for virtualdomain 'hosting'. I've got everything working, but now I need to inject an additional header (like X-Delivered-To:) into each mail message. I've figured out how to get the header into the message, but I'm having a problem with getting the right user name into that header. For example, all mail to domain 'test.cc' goes into the mailbox for user 'joe'. If I send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and use $RECIPIENT for the X-Delivered-To: header, I get: X-Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I need the actual (original) recipient's name (newuser) instead. What variable should I be using? Sal
Re: a bug?
Try .qmail-marc:jaskowiak --- IDG New Media Einar Bordewich System Manager Phone: +47 2205 3034 E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- - Original Message - From: Marcin Jaskowiak [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 30. august 1999 17:46 Subject: a bug? Hi, I've just installed qmail on my system and i have little trouble with aliases... When i use alias like marc ir johndoe everything is ok (.qmail-johndoe), but when i'm trying to set marcin.jaskowiak alias the system (log) response that there is no such user (.qmail-marcin.jaskowiak). Anyone has done such a things? Thanks, Marcin Jaskowiak
Re: How to truncate the mailer-daemo failure notice?
On Mon, 30 Aug 1999 16:41:02 -0300, Ari Arantes Filho wrote: Ok, but my concern is with big attachments/traffic and in the failure notice the attachment doesn't return like attachment, it's part of the body of the message, so the user is unable to re-send correctly to the right address. ftp://ftp.id.wustl.edu/pub/patches/qmail-mime.tar.gz It changes the bounce to include the bounced message as an attachment instead of just copying it into the message. A must (IMHO) for qmail use in domains that use character sets other than us-ascii (or God forbid base64 encoding). To see what it looks like, send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Sincerely, Fred (Frederik Lindberg, Infectious Diseases, WashU, St. Louis, MO, USA)
bogus DNS domain
I have a bogus domain name and use the .COM domain suffix. Before you start yelling DON'T DO IT. This is for the private LAN and I do not do zone transfers. Having said that, when I send email, from user1 to user2, the mail is never delivered. I have the ~/Maildir in both the users $HOME directories. I am using the existing mail clients like MAIL and ELM. There is nothing in the mailbox. Where is the mail going? Qmail does not know my ISP mail server. So, Qmail must have delivered it somewhere. The SYSLOG do say it is a successful delivery. === Aug 30 13:32:05 caesar qmail: 936034325.936721 new msg 1756429 Aug 30 13:32:05 caesar qmail: 936034325.936878 info msg 1756429: bytes 335 from [EMAIL PROTECTED] qp 416 uid 1003 Aug 30 13:32:05 caesar qmail: 936034325.940407 starting delivery 1: msg 1756429 to local [EMAIL PROTECTED] Aug 30 13:32:05 caesar qmail: 936034325.940491 status: local 1/10 remote 0/20 Aug 30 13:32:06 caesar qmail: 936034326.193016 delivery 1: success: did_1+0+0/ Aug 30 13:32:06 caesar qmail: 936034326.193125 status: local 0/10 remote 0/20 Aug 30 13:32:06 caesar qmail: 936034326.246553 end msg 1756429 === I have also tried to do the following $ telnet localhost 25 The message I get is telnet: Unable to connect to remote host: Connection refused At this point, I am a bit lost. If any of the above information is familiar to you, I would appreciate your help. Thank you in advance. Subba Rao [EMAIL PROTECTED] == Disclaimer - I question and speak for myself. http://pws.prserv.net/truemax/ __
Re: How to truncate the mailer-daemo failure notice?
Russell Nelson writes: Ari Arantes Filho writes: When I send a message with an attachment with 3mb for an invalid user, the hole message backs to the sender, notifying him that: Is it possible the put just the header of the message or just a few lines? Sure it's possible. Anything is possible -- that's why we have computers. The question is whether it's desirable. Basically, if you don't bounce the whole email back to the user, how are they to re-send it to the right address? An MTA can't count on them having kept a copy. That may be true in general case, but with Qmail it's a moot point since Qmail's bounces are not MIME DSNs, and the mail client has no way to conveniently resend the message. All tyou'll see is a huge wad of binary goo. -- Sam
Re: How to truncate the mailer-daemo failure notice?
Ari Arantes Filho writes: Ok, but my concern is with big attachments/traffic and in the failure notice the attachment doesn't return like attachment, it's part of the body of the message, so the user is unable to re-send correctly to the right address. Your best bet is to simply add the appropriate code to Qmail, or use a mail script of some sorts to reformat the bounce into a MIME message that mail clients can conveniently resend. I'm surprised that nobody has yet written a Perl script to rewrite Qmail's bounces as DSNs. -- Sam
Re: How to truncate the mailer-daemo failure notice?
Ari Arantes Filho wrote:
Is it possible the put just the header of the message or just a few lines?
Yes, here is a patch that does the job. It defaults to bounce 50k of
text max, but you can change that limit in a control/bouncemaxbytes
file.
Best regards,
-Jedi.
--
Frank DENIS aka Jedi/Sector One aka DJ Chrysalis [EMAIL PROTECTED]
- Software : http://www.jedi.claranet.fr -
- Music : http://www.mp3.com/chrysalis -
diff -u ../qmail-1.03/qmail-send.c ./qmail-send.c
--- ../qmail-1.03/qmail-send.c Mon Jun 15 12:53:16 1998
+++ ./qmail-send.c Wed Jun 24 20:06:29 1998
@@ -44,6 +44,8 @@
int lifetime = 604800;
+int bouncemaxbytes = 5;
+
stralloc percenthack = {0};
struct constmap mappercenthack;
stralloc locals = {0};
@@ -740,9 +742,17 @@
qmail_fail(qqt);
else
{
+ int bytestogo = bouncemaxbytes;
+ int bytestoget = (bytestogo sizeof buf) ? bytestogo : sizeof buf;
substdio_fdbuf(ssread,read,fd,inbuf,sizeof(inbuf));
- while ((r = substdio_get(ssread,buf,sizeof(buf))) 0)
+ while (bytestoget 0 (r = substdio_get(ssread,buf,bytestoget)) 0) {
qmail_put(qqt,buf,r);
+ bytestogo -= bytestoget;
+ bytestoget = (bytestogo sizeof buf) ? bytestogo : sizeof buf;
+ }
+ if (r 0) {
+ qmail_puts(qqt,"\n\n--- End of message stripped.\n");
+ }
close(fd);
if (r == -1)
qmail_fail(qqt);
@@ -1442,6 +1452,7 @@
/* this file is too long -- MAIN */
int getcontrols() { if (control_init() == -1) return 0;
+ if (control_readint(bouncemaxbytes,"control/bouncemaxbytes") == -1) return 0;
if (control_readint(lifetime,"control/queuelifetime") == -1) return 0;
if (control_readint(concurrency[0],"control/concurrencylocal") == -1) return 0;
if (control_readint(concurrency[1],"control/concurrencyremote") == -1) return 0;
I need to speak to you
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Welcome to #l#@domain list ?!
Hi ! I installed qmail-idx, evrything works excepted one thing : ezmlm always replaces the name of my list ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) bye '#l#' as you can see below... any idea of the matter ? xinus.net is a virtualdomain. Thank you ! Hi! This is the ezmlm program. I'm managing the #l#@xinus.net mailing list. To confirm that you would like [EMAIL PROTECTED] added to the #l# mailing list, please send an empty reply to this address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Dimitri SZAJMAN - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Welcome to #l#@domain list ?!
On Tue, 31 Aug 1999 00:41:15 +0200 (CET), Dimitri SZAJMAN wrote: Hi ! I installed qmail-idx, evrything works excepted one thing : ezmlm always replaces the name of my list ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) bye '#l#' as you can see below... any idea of the matter ? Please don't bug the qmail list anymore about your ezmlm installation. 1. This is a matter for the ezmlm list ([EMAIL PROTECTED]). 2. As I told you in now 3 private E-mail messages, you've managed to create a hybrid installation with some parts (ezmlm-make) that are ezmlm+ezmlm-idx and other parts (the binaries that the lists use) are ezmlm-0.53 alone. How can you expect this to work? -Sincerely, Fred (Frederik Lindberg, Infectious Diseases, WashU, St. Louis, MO, USA)
Re: How to truncate the mailer-daemo failure notice?
Sam writes: That may be true in general case, but with Qmail it's a moot point since Qmail's bounces are not MIME DSNs, and the mail client has no way to conveniently resend the message. All tyou'll see is a huge wad of binary goo. Sorry, Sam, but you're quite wrong. How much more convenient can it be than to hit one key: Alt-R? All that the client has to do is recognize a QSBMF, then insert the message into its sending buffer. -- -russ nelson [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://russnelson.com Crynwr sells support for free software | PGPok | Government schools are so 521 Pleasant Valley Rd. | +1 315 268 1925 voice | bad that any rank amateur Potsdam, NY 13676-3213 | +1 315 268 9201 FAX | can outdo them. Homeschool!
Re: How to truncate the mailer-daemo failure notice?
Sam writes: Russell Nelson writes: I don't know about that. When I hit Alt-R in XEmacs's VM facility, I get the message in a message-send buffer, ready to be edited and re-sent. Perhaps other MUA software isn't as good, but that's something the users of the MUA could ask the author of the MUA to fix. Perhaps XEmacs understands the Qmail bounce format, but other MUAs don't. I don't think the MUAs' authors will consider as a defect their software's inability to parse a bounce format that's specific to Qmail only. Of course it's a defect, because *every* MTA has its own peculiar bounce format. There is no standard for bounce messages -- not one that's followed anyway -- so any usable retry mechanism has to understand many formats. -- -russ nelson [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://russnelson.com Crynwr sells support for free software | PGPok | Government schools are so 521 Pleasant Valley Rd. | +1 315 268 1925 voice | bad that any rank amateur Potsdam, NY 13676-3213 | +1 315 268 9201 FAX | can outdo them. Homeschool!
Re: How to truncate the mailer-daemo failure notice?
Russell Nelson writes: Sam writes: That may be true in general case, but with Qmail it's a moot point since Qmail's bounces are not MIME DSNs, and the mail client has no way to conveniently resend the message. All tyou'll see is a huge wad of binary goo. Sorry, Sam, but you're quite wrong. How much more convenient can it be than to hit one key: Alt-R? All that the client has to do is recognize a QSBMF, then insert the message into its sending buffer. All the client has to do is to recognize a bounce format that is not defined by any RFC, and that is used by at most 10-15% of mail servers out there. Until Qmail gets more traction, do not expect to see a lot of clients being able to parse Qmail's bounces. -- Sam
Re: How to truncate the mailer-daemo failure notice?
Russell Nelson writes: Perhaps XEmacs understands the Qmail bounce format, but other MUAs don't. I don't think the MUAs' authors will consider as a defect their software's inability to parse a bounce format that's specific to Qmail only. Of course it's a defect, because *every* MTA has its own peculiar bounce format. No, not every. There has to be at least a dozen MTAs that generate MIME DSN bounces. I'd say that it's a pretty safe bet that any MTAs that will be written in the future are far more likely to be written to generate MIME DSN bounces as opposed to Qmail-style bounces. An RFC 1894-aware mail client will be capable of handling bounces from any one of those MTAs. There is no standard for bounce messages -- not one Yes there is: RFC 1894.
email postage
I'm wondering if anyone knows of any sort of protocol or system built to handle "email postage." I'm of the belief that as long as email is an essentially free service, people will always find a way to abuse it, and I'd like to know if there's any sort of work going on in this area, research, etc. Before you ask - no, I don't think the USPS has any business charging for email, nor any other governmental entity. I'm talking about doing this on a private, per-host basis, with the possibility of peering agreements, pay-as-you-go for email transmission, automated exchange of payment info, etc. Just bored at work and looking for something to fool around with. I've got a feeling QMTP could probably do something with this pretty easily. I've no idea how you'd be able to integrate MUA's. shag = Judd Bourgeois| CNM Network +1 (805) 520-7170 Software Architect| 1900 Los Angeles Avenue, 2nd Floor [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Simi Valley, CA 93065 Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum viditur.
Re: email postage
One scheme devised (and implemented) a couple years ago was "hash cash": http://www.mit.edu:8008/menelaus/cpunks/91769 Another vague proposal is: http://www.mall-net.com/spam/ Jim Lippard [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.discord.org/ Unsolicited bulk email charge: $500/message. Don't send me any. PGP Fingerprint: 0C1F FE18 D311 1792 5EA8 43C8 7AD2 B485 DE75 841C On Mon, 30 Aug 1999, Racer X wrote: I'm wondering if anyone knows of any sort of protocol or system built to handle "email postage." I'm of the belief that as long as email is an essentially free service, people will always find a way to abuse it, and I'd like to know if there's any sort of work going on in this area, research, etc. Before you ask - no, I don't think the USPS has any business charging for email, nor any other governmental entity. I'm talking about doing this on a private, per-host basis, with the possibility of peering agreements, pay-as-you-go for email transmission, automated exchange of payment info, etc. Just bored at work and looking for something to fool around with. I've got a feeling QMTP could probably do something with this pretty easily. I've no idea how you'd be able to integrate MUA's. shag = Judd Bourgeois| CNM Network +1 (805) 520-7170 Software Architect| 1900 Los Angeles Avenue, 2nd Floor [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Simi Valley, CA 93065 Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum viditur.
Re: How to truncate the mailer-daemo failure notice?
Sam [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Russell Nelson writes: I don't know about that. When I hit Alt-R in XEmacs's VM facility, I get the message in a message-send buffer, ready to be edited and re-sent. Perhaps other MUA software isn't as good, but that's something the users of the MUA could ask the author of the MUA to fix. Perhaps XEmacs understands the Qmail bounce format, but other MUAs don't. Gnus does for this purpose and has for longer than qmail has existed. It's method of last resort for finding the actual message inside a bounce is to search forward for Return-Path:, which conveniently happens to always be the first header of the encapsulated message. Works quite well for a lot of different weird bounce formats. -- Russ Allbery ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) URL:http://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/
