Re: Bad Return-Path: Qmail bag?

2000-02-15 Thread petervd

On Tue, Feb 15, 2000 at 10:20:32AM +0100, Pavel Kankovsky wrote:
 On Tue, 15 Feb 2000, Ilya wrote:
 
  From: =?koi8-r?B?5/Xz8CBcIuLB28jMxcLP0NTJw8XQ0s/NXCI=?= [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Qmail generate:
  Return-Path: "?Ó??  Á???ë?áî???ö???î? Gusp"@ufatel.ru
 
 Are you sure this piece of junk was generated by qmail?
 
  Return-Path: "?Ó??  Á???ë?áî???ö???î? Gusp"@ufatel.ru
  Received: (qmail 9238 invoked from network); 12 Jan 2000 04:21:21 -
  Received: from unknown (HELO rustam) (192.168.110.3)
by ms.ufatel.ru with SMTP; 12 Jan 2000 04:21:21 -
  Message-ID: 000e01bf5cc5$50964000$036ea8c0@rustam
  From: =?koi8-r?B?5/Xz8CBcIuLB28jMxcLP0NTJw8XQ0s/NXCI=?= [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 The message was received via SMTP. The bogus return path was supplied by
 SMTP client (MS Outlook? oh, what surprise!). Hmm...yes, it is somewhat
 questionable whether it is a good thing that qmail is willing to accept
 such garbage at all and waste resources trying to deliver it (and be
 blamed for breaking it in the end).

Well how would qmail decide that that address is potentially bogus?

I don't know. That address is, even, potentially _valid_.

Greetz, Peter.
-- 
Peter van Dijk - student/sysadmin/ircoper/madly in love/pretending coder 
|  
| 'C makes it easy to shoot yourself in the foot;
|  C++ makes it harder, but when you do it blows your whole leg off.'
| Bjarne Stroustrup, Inventor of C++



Re: Bad Return-Path: Qmail bag?

2000-02-15 Thread Pavel Kankovsky

On Tue, 15 Feb 2000, Ilya wrote:

 Pavel Kankovsky wrote:
 
  On Tue, 15 Feb 2000, Ilya wrote:
 
   From: =?koi8-r?B?5/Xz8CBcIuLB28jMxcLP0NTJw8XQ0s/NXCI=?= [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Qmail generate:
   Return-Path: "   Gusp"@ufatel.ru
 
  Are you sure this piece of junk was generated by qmail?
 
 Return-Path is generated by server, not client!

Yes, it is. But its contents is a copy of any text sent by a client as an
argument of SMTP "MAIL FROM:" command. qmail is (might be) guilty of
accepting it, not of making it up.

--Pavel Kankovsky aka Peak  [ Boycott Microsoft--http://www.vcnet.com/bms ]
"Resistance is futile. Open your source code and prepare for assimilation."



how do I

2000-02-15 Thread Naren




How do I remove myself from this 
list???


Re: daemontools-0.61 and qmailanalog

2000-02-15 Thread Russ Allbery

Jeremy Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 So I'm using multilog and qmailanalog.  I did some searching on the mail
 list and found some scripts that do the hex conversion, etc, but I'm
 seeing somewhat strange results anyway.  All my time signatures change
 each time I run the logs through the setup of scripts and qmailanalog
 even though the log doesn't change:

 cat tmp | tai64n | ./tai64n2time | /usr/local/qmailanalog/bin/matchup  |
 /usr/local/qmailanalog/bin/zoverall

So what's tmp (ie, where does it come from)?  Just looking at that command
line, it looks a lot like you're adding timestamps to every line fresh
each time you run the above command pipeline, which means that you're
giving every line pretty much the same timestamp.

tai64n is intended to be used to put an accurate timestamp on each line
*when it's logged*, not after the fact.  Since you're using multilog, you
don't need it at all; just use the t action in multilog.

-- 
Russ Allbery ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) URL:http://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/



Re: Bad Return-Path: Qmail bag?

2000-02-15 Thread Pavel Kankovsky

On Tue, 15 Feb 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   Return-Path: "???  ??? Gusp"@ufatel.ru

 Well how would qmail decide that that address is potentially bogus?
 I don't know. That address is, even, potentially _valid_.

It is not. "ufatel.ru" has never been a valid domain name. And I hope it
will never be a valid name.

--Pavel Kankovsky aka Peak  [ Boycott Microsoft--http://www.vcnet.com/bms ]
"Resistance is futile. Open your source code and prepare for assimilation."



Re: Qmail Majordomo

2000-02-15 Thread petervd

On Tue, Feb 15, 2000 at 01:41:13AM -0800, Russ Allbery wrote:
 Andrew Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
  I have just switched my majordomo list over to a new host.  I have found
  that when I subscribe a name and address together, e.g.:
 
  "Andrew Scott" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
  that there are problems sending out the mail.  I have been told that the
  problem is that the host is using qmail instead of sendmail, and that
  qmail does not like to see names.  It interprets the whole thing as one
  address.
 
  1.  Is this true?
 
 Yup.
 
  2.  If it is, is there a way around it (besides dropping the names from
  the list)?
 
 You would need to fix the program that's being used to send outgoing mail
 so that it strips the name out of the address before passing it to qmail.
 I don't know of anyone who's already done this work for the general case;
 my mjinject script handles it for the simpler case of:
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Doe)
 
 though, and could probably be extended to handle the more general case.
 You can get it from ftp://ftp.eyrie.org/pub/software/majordomo/mjinject.

I think djb's mess822 lib could help out a lot here...

Greetz, Peter.
-- 
Peter van Dijk - student/sysadmin/ircoper/madly in love/pretending coder 
|  
| 'C makes it easy to shoot yourself in the foot;
|  C++ makes it harder, but when you do it blows your whole leg off.'
| Bjarne Stroustrup, Inventor of C++



Re: Bad Return-Path: Qmail bag?

2000-02-15 Thread petervd

On Tue, Feb 15, 2000 at 10:45:43AM +0100, Pavel Kankovsky wrote:
 On Tue, 15 Feb 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
Return-Path: "?Ó??  Á???ë?áî???ö???î? Gusp"@ufatel.ru
 
  Well how would qmail decide that that address is potentially bogus?
  I don't know. That address is, even, potentially _valid_.
 
 It is not. "ufatel.ru" has never been a valid domain name. And I hope it
 will never be a valid name.

Hmm I was only looking at the part before the @. Indeed, this address is
invalid. But qmail can hardly know that, apart from the  at the end.

Greetz, Peter.
-- 
Peter van Dijk - student/sysadmin/ircoper/madly in love/pretending coder 
|  
| 'C makes it easy to shoot yourself in the foot;
|  C++ makes it harder, but when you do it blows your whole leg off.'
| Bjarne Stroustrup, Inventor of C++



Re: Big and/or famous sites using qmail?

2000-02-15 Thread S Ashok Kumar

 What is Bluetail Mail Robustifier? I couldn't find any pointers on the Net.

Thanks.

- Ashok



 Actually, Algonet is part of Telenordia, and has in all about 300,000
 users or so. All mail is run on qmail, though we're now using the
 Bluetail Mail Robustifier as frontend for the qmail boxen. They make
 an extremely good, fast and stable combination.

 /Jenny, mailadmin at Telenordia/Algonet

 --
 "I live in the heart of the machine. We are one."



[Fwd: address translation]

2000-02-15 Thread Hans Sandsdalen

Hans Sandsdalen wrote:
 
 Hi
 
 How do I make qmail understand addresses like host!user@domain?
 
 I have installed HP jetadmin on a Solaris 7 system, and when
 there are printing errors it sends a mail to the user with
 addresses like this.
 --
 /hans

I think I can use rmail
(ftp://ftp.mira.net.au/unix/mail/qmail/rmail-0.1.tar.gz)
But how do I use it? In the INSTALL file it says that I should replace
my existing 
rmail. I don't have one?
-- 
/hans



about local and global qmail using

2000-02-15 Thread mulin

Hello qmail,

  Who knows does qmail allow to send mail to Internet for privilleged
  users and deny the same for unprivilleged.

Best regards,
 mulin  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]




RE: why wont q-mail use other mail exchanger??

2000-02-15 Thread Greg Owen


 now, the mail.meyersbros.com server is the one that seems to be down,
 and the one that q-mail's trying to send to..  but since it's 
 failing to send to that server, shouldn't it automatically try one of
 the others instead??  I connected to both of the others with telnet,
 and they seem to be fine..  so, why has my message been sitting in my
 queue all day?

This was discussed in detail under the subject "When will qmail back
off to the next MX" between 9/15/99 and 9/28/99.  In summary, a dropped
connection is NOT interpreted as a machine down, so qmail never backs off.
The problem may be caused by a combination of a proxying firewall on your
end (like Raptor) and a firewalled primary MX on the other end, in which
case you can fix the problem by modifying your firewall not to proxy
outgoing SMTP.

Go to the archives, read the thread, and let us know if that doesn't
answer things for you.  But the main answer to your question is, "No, it
doesn't back off in that case, and arguably shouldn't."

-- 
gowen -- Greg Owen -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: tcpserver problem

2000-02-15 Thread Anand Buddhdev

On Tue, Feb 15, 2000 at 07:45:59PM -0800, Francis Francis wrote:

 Hi
I am new to qmail. I got following problem when I
 try to telnet to port 25 or using mail client to send
 mail.
 I got log message : tcpserver:warning: dropping
 connection,unable to read /etc/tcp.smtp.cdb: file does
 not exist.
 
 but when I do ls -l /etc/tcp.smtp.cdb, the file is
 there.

What does your _exact_ tcpserver startup line look like? And what's the
output of 'ls -l /etc/tcp.smtp.cdb' ? Don't tell us the file is there,
paste the output in your replies.

-- 
See complete headers for more info



how do I

2000-02-15 Thread Naren




How do I remove myself from this mailing list, 
please


Re: Uh-oh:_first_line_of_.qmail_file_is_blank._(#4.2.1)/

2000-02-15 Thread Robert Sander

On Tue, Feb 15, 2000 at 03:15:51PM +0545, Shashi Dahal wrote:
 Dear all !
 
 For some time now, I have been getting a lot of messages like
 "Uh-oh:_first_line_of_.qmail_file_is_blank._(#4.2.1)/"

This happens if you do not set the default delivery method at qmail-startup in 
the rc-file. It happens to me when I edited /etc/init.d/qmail with "ae" where 
ae looses a linebreak and suddenly two lines were commented out where I only 
want to have one commented out ...

Use better editors is my advice ;-)

Greetings
-- 
Robert Sander www.gurubert.de



Mailing List

2000-02-15 Thread Naren




Please could someone tell me how to unsubscribe 
from this list 
PLEASE.
I sent a blank message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 

But I still receive mail I have lost that address 
now
PLEASE HELP ME SOMEONE..
My mailbox is overflooding


Re: boot scripts

2000-02-15 Thread mulin

Hello a,

Tuesday, February 15, 2000, 3:16:52 AM, you wrote:

ak Newbie question:

ak While installing qmail I found this paragraph:

ak 14. Add
ak csh -cf '/var/qmail/rc '
ak to your boot scripts, so that the qmail daemons are restarted
ak whenever your system reboots. Make sure you include the .

ak To which exactly boot scripts should I add this line?

ak Thank you in advance.

ak 
ak Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at 
http://webmail.netscape.com.


It depends on you system initialisation type (BSD or SysV). I have
RedHat 5.9 distr with SysV initialisation (or booting process). I
placed it in /etc/rc.d/init.d/qmail script and put links in all
/etc/rc.d/rc#.d folders on it. Another way is for BSD init type: place
it in rc.local (the last way is suitable for both BSD and SysV types)

Best regards,
 mulinmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]




Changing FROM:

2000-02-15 Thread Michael Neubert

Hello,

I have a question concerning the FROM: line in the mail header. I think
it should be a very common problem, but I can't find the answer in the
FAQ's. Maybe someone could direct me to the right document

Here is my configuration:

external:
We receive our mails via fetchmail from the 1.ISP.
We send our mails to a 2.ISP via serialmail.

Mails which are deliverd external, show in the FROM-line: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
It should be: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

internal:
Our Clients are WindowsXXX, they receive their mails from our
pop3-server. They send their mail to our smtp-server. I found in the
FAQ's, how to setup the changing of the FROM line, when using
qmail-inject. But that won't work with smtp.

Thanks for any idea!


Michael



Help testing the installation

2000-02-15 Thread joe




Hi,
 I am new in linux. After 
gathering infomration , I fins qmail is very powerful and eay to config. 
However, I encounter the following problem
. Can u help me solve it?

The Problem is:
I can build and install the qmail but I cannot success in 
following the guideline in TEST.deliver.
I am follow the sequence mention in the INSTALL and read 
through the INSTALL.*

from the TEST.deliver:
when i run the /var/qmail/rc
it will has four process but i only get one 
qmail-lspawn
I also fail in the local mail delivery. Can u tell how figure 
what mistake I have made?
Also I don't understand the idea that decscride in mbox , 
Maildir and Mailbox
which one should I choose, since I need to maintan POP 
server for Ms windoms client.

Thanks

Joe





Re: Custom mail directories

2000-02-15 Thread Anand Buddhdev

On Tue, Feb 15, 2000 at 12:31:38PM +, John P. Looney wrote:

  man qmail-users
 
  I was hoping there was an alternate way; that I could find the home
 directory required in a similar way as to how pop3d can authenticate
 via a plugin. All the users info is in an SQL database, which is updated
 between a hundred and a thousand times a day, so regenerating the assign
 file is not an option.

Then you need to modify qmail-getpw to look-up the SQL database, and
return relevant information, ie. uid, gid, home directory, etc. For more
info:

man qmail-getpw

-- 
See complete headers for more info



Two qmail servers with data over nfs

2000-02-15 Thread David Sedeño Fernández

Hi all,

We have a new project to install a high end mail system. We need to
install two mail servers (or more) that share data over nfs on a disk
sharing subsystem. We would need to have comments with this
configuration and more presicely using qmail and vpopmail. 

Thanks in advance



Re: daemontools-0.61 and qmailanalog

2000-02-15 Thread Russ Allbery

Jeremy Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 I now have time stamps, so really all I need to do is call tai64nfrac
 through matchup, right?

Works For Me (tm).  :)

-- 
Russ Allbery ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) URL:http://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/



why wont q-mail use other mail exchanger??

2000-02-15 Thread Brian Johnson

I have a e-mail that's been sitting in my queue all day..  when I send
an alrm to qmail-send and look at the logs it says:
qmail: 950643271.549190 delivery 1649: deferral:
Connected_to_208.16.216.36_but_connection_died._(#4.4.2)/

so I tried to connect to the host with telnet, and pinged it and as far
as I can tell the host it down (the remote host)

so I looked-up the mail exchangers for the domain:
Non-authoritative answer:
meyersbros.com  preference = 100, mail exchanger = mailin2.excell.net
meyersbros.com  preference = 50, mail exchanger = mail.meyersbros.com
meyersbros.com  preference = 200, mail exchanger = mailin1.excell.net

now, the mail.meyersbros.com server is the one that seems to be down,
and the one that q-mail's trying to send to..  but since it's failing to
send to that server, shouldn't it automatically try one of the others
instead??  I connected to both of the others with telnet, and they seem
to be fine..  so, why has my message been sitting in my queue all day?




NFS slowness with MAILDIR

2000-02-15 Thread Curtis Generous

We have several sparcs (solaris 2.6) sharing user's maildirs via NFS on
a Netapp 760 filer.  We have noticed that when we first boot the
machines, we get great performance.  

After the first 24 hours though, the same # of users cause the load on
these machines to slow down substantially.  

By the 2nd day, these machines feel like molasses, and the only way to
fix this is a reboot.  The bottleneck appears to be NFS related.
We run NFS vers 2/UDP between the SPARCS and the NetApp.

Has anyone seen this kind of behavior before while running qmail?
[It doesn't seem to be related to qmail at all as far as we can tell]

Thanks,

--curtis



Re: -ERR authorization failed

2000-02-15 Thread kiwitp

When I telnet port 110 I get +ok942.950664165@INIT_VERSION=sysvinit and
then -ERR authorization first. I enter user name and password but I just
keep getting the -ERR message..

cheers
Jerry

- Original Message -
From: Sam [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2000 1:41 PM
Subject: Re: -ERR authorization failed


 On Wed, 16 Feb 2000, kiwitp wrote:

  I think I am getting somewhere now. the only problem now seems to whit
  passwords. When I try to connect to the mail server from a win9x box
outlook
  I get -ERR authorization failed even tow I enter the user name and
password.
  Could this be because windows is sending encrypted passwords? If so what
can
  I do about this?

 No.  Whatever the problem really is, that's not it.

 To verify what the real deal is, telnet to your server's port, and
 manually attempt to authorize yourself, so that you can be sure exactly
 what is being sent, and what comes back.

 If you succesfully authorize yourself, the problem will be in your mail
 client configuration.  If your authorization fails, the problem will be in
 your mail server configuration.  Until you resolve where the
 misconfiguration is, you're just wandering in the dark.

 --
 Sam





Remote mail not delivered to Maildir

2000-02-15 Thread James Timberlake



i installed qmail 
from rpm's and changed the mailbox to maildir in /var/qmail/rc and 
/var/qmail/defaultdelivery/rc. i also ran maildirmake and echo ./Maildir/ 
 ~/.qmail for a local user. users/assign exists and i ran qmail-newu 
to generate the cdb file. all the processes seem to be running 
correctly. i ran all the examples in TEST.deliver and TEST.receive and ran 
into trouble. sending mail to a local address works fine, as does sending 
mail to a nonexistent local address (it bounces). i can also send mail to 
a remote user without a problem. however when i send mail from a remote 
user to a local user, the message disappears. it doesn't bounce and there 
are no errors in the logs (i looked in /var/log/qmail, /var/log/qmail-smptd, and 
/var/log/qmail-pop3d). the message never gets delivered to the user. 
i checked /etc/tcprules.d/qmail-smptd and it says:
 
127.0.0.1:allow,RELAYCLIENT=""
 
192.168.0.1:allow,RELAYCLIENT=""
 
:allow
i've searched 
through the archives and read the mans, but nothing seems to help. this is 
really driving me nuts. please help.

thanks,
james


RE: Remote mail not delivered to Maildir

2000-02-15 Thread James Timberlake




i 
think i found out my problem but i don't know how to fix it. anyway, here 
goes:


Your 
message has been enqueued and undeliverable for 1 day(s)to the following 
recipients:

 Recipient address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reason: unable 
to deliver this message after 1 day

Delivery attempt history for your 
mail:

Tue, 
15 Feb 2000 20:06:45 -0500 (EST)TCP active open: Failed 
connect() Error: Connection timed 
outMon, 14 Feb 2000 11:48:35 -0500 (EST)TCP 
active open: Failed connect() Error: Connection timed 
out

The 
mail system will continue to try to deliver your messagefor an additional 6 
day(s).


any 
ideas on why the connection keeps timing out? i can manually telnet to 
port 25 and issue commands there and it delivers the mail just fine, so why 
would other isp's mail servers not be able to connect?

thanks 
again,
james

  -Original Message-From: James Timberlake 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2000 
  21:02To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Remote mail not 
  delivered to Maildir
  i installed qmail 
  from rpm's and changed the mailbox to maildir in /var/qmail/rc and 
  /var/qmail/defaultdelivery/rc. i also ran maildirmake and echo 
  ./Maildir/  ~/.qmail for a local user. users/assign exists and i ran 
  qmail-newu to generate the cdb file. all the processes seem to be 
  running correctly. i ran all the examples in TEST.deliver and 
  TEST.receive and ran into trouble. sending mail to a local address works 
  fine, as does sending mail to a nonexistent local address (it bounces). 
  i can also send mail to a remote user without a problem. however when i 
  send mail from a remote user to a local user, the message disappears. it 
  doesn't bounce and there are no errors in the logs (i looked in 
  /var/log/qmail, /var/log/qmail-smptd, and /var/log/qmail-pop3d). the 
  message never gets delivered to the user. i checked 
  /etc/tcprules.d/qmail-smptd and it says:
   
  127.0.0.1:allow,RELAYCLIENT=""
   
  192.168.0.1:allow,RELAYCLIENT=""
   
  :allow
  i've searched 
  through the archives and read the mans, but nothing seems to help. this 
  is really driving me nuts. please help.
  
  thanks,
  james


Re: removing a msg from the queue

2000-02-15 Thread Anand Buddhdev

On Tue, Feb 15, 2000 at 03:21:35AM -0500, Jim Breton wrote:

 IIRC I stopped qmail-send but qmail-remote was still running (maybe it

existing qmail-remotes are allowed to finish deliveries, _after_ which
qmail-send exits.

 wasn't, I can't recall, but it's not an issue) and I killed it with a
 -9.  Then I removed the message from /var/qmail/queue/mess/0/ but either

Very bad practice. In general, on a unix system, try to kill a process
with kill -TERM first, and if that doesn't work, _then_ try kill -KILL
(or kill -9).

 qmail-qread would give me this error:
 
 warning: trouble with #1955: file does not exist
 
 I looked around a bit more and found /var/qmail/queue/remote/0/1955 and
 info/0/1955 and removed them as well.
 
 Everything seems to be OK now, but are there any other files I missed
 and did I do the right thing, or is there a better way?

Well, you were on the right track, and you did eventually end up doing
the right thing, but you must be careful when trying to mess around with
qmail's queue directly.

Generally, you want to remove

/var/qmail/queue/{info,mess,remote,local}/hash/#number

to completely remove a message, where #number is the message id number.

-- 
See complete headers for more info



Attachment Problem

2000-02-15 Thread Emmanuel Nee

Hi,

I'm current running qmail on a mandrake 6.0 box. Everthing is working
fine except for some little hicup here. When I tried sending a mail with
a binary attachment, the recipent recieve the mail with an attachment as
per send. But when the sender tries sending a ascii text attachment, the
text in the attachment got pasted on instead of an attachment. I would
be greatful if someone could shred some light on how I can solve this
little problem.

Regards


begin:vcard 
n:Nee;Emmanuel
tel;cell:96963658
tel;fax:3388380
tel;home:2431413
tel;work:3383808
x-mozilla-html:FALSE
adr:;;
version:2.1
email;internet:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
fn:Emmanuel Nee
end:vcard



Bad Return-Path: Qmail bag?

2000-02-15 Thread Ilya

A mail contain:


From: =?koi8-r?B?5/Xz8CBcIuLB28jMxcLP0NTJw8XQ0s/NXCI=?= [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Qmail generate:

Return-Path: "ÃÓÑÏ  Áàøõëåáîïòèöåïðîì Gusp"@ufatel.ru


Why? How can I correct it?


 Original Message 
Subject: failure notice
Date: 12 Jan 2000 04:21:37 -
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Hi. This is the qmail-send program at ufatel.ru.
I tried to deliver a bounce message to this address, but the bounce
bounced!

ÃÓÑÏ  Áàøõëåáîïòèöåïðîì [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Sorry, I couldn't find any host named ufatel.ru. (#5.1.2)

--- Below this line is the original bounce.

Return-Path: 
Received: (qmail 9240 invoked for bounce); 12 Jan 2000 04:21:35 -
Date: 12 Jan 2000 04:21:35 -
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: "ÃÓÑÏ  Áàøõëåáîïòèöåïðîì Gusp"@ufatel.ru
Subject: failure notice

Hi. This is the qmail-send program at ufatel.ru.
I'm afraid I wasn't able to deliver your message to the following
addresses.
This is a permanent error; I've given up. Sorry it didn't work out.

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Connected to 194.67.23.37 but sender was rejected.
Remote host said: 501 "ÃÓÑÏ  Áàøõëåáîïòèöåïðîì Gusp"@ufatel.ru:
malformed address:  may not follow "ÃÓÑÏ  Áàøõëåáîïòèöåïðîì
Gusp"@ufatel.ru

--- Below this line is a copy of the message.

Return-Path: "ÃÓÑÏ  Áàøõëåáîïòèöåïðîì Gusp"@ufatel.ru
Received: (qmail 9238 invoked from network); 12 Jan 2000 04:21:21 -
Received: from unknown (HELO rustam) (192.168.110.3)
  by ms.ufatel.ru with SMTP; 12 Jan 2000 04:21:21 -
Message-ID: 000e01bf5cc5$50964000$036ea8c0@rustam
From: =?koi8-r?B?5/Xz8CBcIuLB28jMxcLP0NTJw8XQ0s/NXCI=?= [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: "Nicholas V. Mednov" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
References: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: 
Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 09:21:47 +0300
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain;
charset="koi8-r"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
X-Priority: 3
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Re: removing a msg from the queue

2000-02-15 Thread Anand Buddhdev

On Tue, Feb 15, 2000 at 03:48:31AM -0500, Jim Breton wrote:

  Very bad practice. In general, on a unix system, try to kill a process
  with kill -TERM first, and if that doesn't work, _then_ try kill -KILL
  (or kill -9).
 
 I did.  It didn't stop, so then I used -9.

Hang on... If I read this right, you killed qmail-send with a -9 ? Bad.

This is what you're supposed to do:

kill qmail-send   (standard kill, not kill -9)

... it waits for it's qmail-remote children to finish 

kill qmail-remotes   (standard kill, not kill -9)

... now qmail-send will die on its own ...

-- 
See complete headers for more info



Re: Bad Return-Path: Qmail bag?

2000-02-15 Thread Pavel Kankovsky

On Tue, 15 Feb 2000, Ilya wrote:

 From: =?koi8-r?B?5/Xz8CBcIuLB28jMxcLP0NTJw8XQ0s/NXCI=?= [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Qmail generate:
 Return-Path: "   Gusp"@ufatel.ru

Are you sure this piece of junk was generated by qmail?

 Return-Path: "   Gusp"@ufatel.ru
 Received: (qmail 9238 invoked from network); 12 Jan 2000 04:21:21 -
 Received: from unknown (HELO rustam) (192.168.110.3)
   by ms.ufatel.ru with SMTP; 12 Jan 2000 04:21:21 -
 Message-ID: 000e01bf5cc5$50964000$036ea8c0@rustam
 From: =?koi8-r?B?5/Xz8CBcIuLB28jMxcLP0NTJw8XQ0s/NXCI=?= [EMAIL PROTECTED]

The message was received via SMTP. The bogus return path was supplied by
SMTP client (MS Outlook? oh, what surprise!). Hmm...yes, it is somewhat
questionable whether it is a good thing that qmail is willing to accept
such garbage at all and waste resources trying to deliver it (and be
blamed for breaking it in the end).

--Pavel Kankovsky aka Peak  [ Boycott Microsoft--http://www.vcnet.com/bms ]
"Resistance is futile. Open your source code and prepare for assimilation."



Uh-oh:_first_line_of_.qmail_file_is_blank._(#4.2.1)/

2000-02-15 Thread Shashi Dahal

Dear all !

For some time now, I have been getting a lot of messages like
"Uh-oh:_first_line_of_.qmail_file_is_blank._(#4.2.1)/"

I have checked the entries in .qmail files of the respective home 
directories, but everything seems pretty normal. It is normal in aliases 
also. and I am not able to figure out the problem.

Any suggestions ?

Shashi










Below is a copy of my maillog

Feb 15 15:07:01 trishakti qmail: 950606521.621234 status: local 7/15 remote 
23/100
Feb 15 15:07:01 trishakti qmail: 950606521.835757 delivery 145360: 
deferral: Uh-oh:_first_line_of_.qmail_file_is_blank._(#4.2.1)/
Feb 15 15:07:01 trishakti qmail: 950606521.898550 status: local 6/15 remote 
23/100
Feb 15 15:07:02 trishakti qmail: 950606522.124749 starting delivery 145363: 
msg 417990 to local [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Feb 15 15:07:02 trishakti qmail: 950606522.479406 status: local 7/15 remote 
23/100
Feb 15 15:07:02 trishakti qmail: 950606522.604962 delivery 145354: 
deferral: Uh-oh:_first_line_of_.qmail_file_is_blank._(#4.2.1)/
Feb 15 15:07:02 trishakti qmail: 950606522.729928 status: local 6/15 remote 
23/100
Feb 15 15:07:02 trishakti qmail: 950606522.854386 delivery 145355: 
deferral: Uh-oh:_first_line_of_.qmail_file_is_blank._(#4.2.1)/
Feb 15 15:07:03 trishakti qmail: 950606523.039231 status: local 5/15 remote 
23/100
Feb 15 15:07:03 trishakti qmail: 950606523.275425 delivery 145356: 
deferral: Uh-oh:_first_line_of_.qmail_file_is_blank._(#4.2.1)/
Feb 15 15:07:03 trishakti qmail: 950606523.592265 status: local 4/15 remote 
23/100
Feb 15 15:07:03 trishakti qmail: 950606523.834870 delivery 145357: 
deferral: Uh-oh:_first_line_of_.qmail_file_is_blank._(#4.2.1)/
Feb 15 15:07:04 trishakti qmail: 950606524.124876 status: local 3/15 remote 
23/100
Feb 15 15:07:04 trishakti qmail: 950606524.328302 delivery 145358: 
deferral: Uh-oh:_first_line_of_.qmail_file_is_blank._(#4.2.1)/
Feb 15 15:07:04 trishakti qmail: 950606524.505329 status: local 2/15 remote 
23/100
Feb 15 15:07:04 trishakti qmail: 950606524.775995 delivery 145359: 
deferral: Uh-oh:_first_line_of_.qmail_file_is_blank._(#4.2.1)/
Feb 15 15:07:04 trishakti qmail: 950606524.987900 status: local 1/15 remote 
23/100 



Re: Anyone using Qmail in a corporate environment, got time on your hands ?

2000-02-15 Thread Russ Allbery

Martin Lesser [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Tell him about hotmail:

 1. hotmail is part of M$
 2. hotmail has about 50.000.000+ users
 3. hotmail is using qmail
 4. hotmail tried IIRC 2 years ago to switch from qmail to exchange but
they failed.

Unless you've independently verified this last point, I wouldn't pass it
along.  I've received fairly reliable indications that this is pure urban
legend and never actually happened.

It's worth keeping in mind that Hotmail, as part of Microsoft, has access
to the source code of the operating system and some direct engineering
support, and therefore may very well be able to do things with NT or Win2K
that the rest of us couldn't.

-- 
Russ Allbery ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) URL:http://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/



Re: Bad Return-Path: Qmail bag?

2000-02-15 Thread Ilya

Pavel Kankovsky wrote:

 On Tue, 15 Feb 2000, Ilya wrote:

  From: =?koi8-r?B?5/Xz8CBcIuLB28jMxcLP0NTJw8XQ0s/NXCI=?= [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Qmail generate:
  Return-Path: "ÃÓÑÏ  Áàøõëåáîïòèöåïðîì Gusp"@ufatel.ru

 Are you sure this piece of junk was generated by qmail?


Return-Path is generated by server, not client!






Re: daemontools-0.61 and qmailanalog

2000-02-15 Thread Russ Allbery

Frederik Lindberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 What do you do with fd5 (man matchup)?

if [ -s qlog.deferred ] ; then
cat qlog.deferred "$1" | tai64nfrac | matchup  qlog 5 qlog.deferred
else
tai64nfrac  "$1" | matchup  qlog 5 qlog.deferred
fi

-- 
Russ Allbery ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) URL:http://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/



Re: Big and/or famous sites using qmail?

2000-02-15 Thread Jenny Holmberg

Bruce Guenter [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 On Wed, Feb 09, 2000 at 12:02:17PM +0800, Michael Boman wrote:
  Wouldn't it great if there was a list of big/famous sites that uses qmail
  as their MTA?
 
 I just compiled a list of these from searching through the qmail mailing
 list archives:

[snip]

 Algonet (Sweedish ISP with 50,000+ users)

Actually, Algonet is part of Telenordia, and has in all about 300,000
users or so. All mail is run on qmail, though we're now using the
Bluetail Mail Robustifier as frontend for the qmail boxen. They make
an extremely good, fast and stable combination.

/Jenny, mailadmin at Telenordia/Algonet

-- 
"I live in the heart of the machine. We are one." 



Re: Bad Return-Path: Qmail bag?

2000-02-15 Thread petervd

On Tue, Feb 15, 2000 at 12:30:59PM +0300, Ilya wrote:
 Pavel Kankovsky wrote:
 
  On Tue, 15 Feb 2000, Ilya wrote:
 
   From: =?koi8-r?B?5/Xz8CBcIuLB28jMxcLP0NTJw8XQ0s/NXCI=?= [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Qmail generate:
   Return-Path: "  ? Gusp"@ufatel.ru
 
  Are you sure this piece of junk was generated by qmail?
 
 Return-Path is generated by server, not client!

Return-Path is a direct copy of the SMTP 'MAIL FROM' part, which is supplied
by the client.

Greetz, Peter.
-- 
Peter van Dijk - student/sysadmin/ircoper/madly in love/pretending coder 
|  
| 'C makes it easy to shoot yourself in the foot;
|  C++ makes it harder, but when you do it blows your whole leg off.'
| Bjarne Stroustrup, Inventor of C++



Re: Big and/or famous sites using qmail?

2000-02-15 Thread petervd

On Tue, Feb 15, 2000 at 10:39:28AM +0100, Jenny Holmberg wrote:
 Bruce Guenter [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
  On Wed, Feb 09, 2000 at 12:02:17PM +0800, Michael Boman wrote:
   Wouldn't it great if there was a list of big/famous sites that uses qmail
   as their MTA?
  
  I just compiled a list of these from searching through the qmail mailing
  list archives:
 
 [snip]
 
  Algonet (Sweedish ISP with 50,000+ users)
 
 Actually, Algonet is part of Telenordia, and has in all about 300,000
 users or so. All mail is run on qmail, though we're now using the
 Bluetail Mail Robustifier as frontend for the qmail boxen. They make
 an extremely good, fast and stable combination.

What does Bluetail Mail Robustifier do?

Greetz, Peter.
-- 
Peter van Dijk - student/sysadmin/ircoper/madly in love/pretending coder 
|  
| 'C makes it easy to shoot yourself in the foot;
|  C++ makes it harder, but when you do it blows your whole leg off.'
| Bjarne Stroustrup, Inventor of C++



Re: Qmail Majordomo

2000-02-15 Thread Russ Allbery

Andrew Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 I have just switched my majordomo list over to a new host.  I have found
 that when I subscribe a name and address together, e.g.:

 "Andrew Scott" [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 that there are problems sending out the mail.  I have been told that the
 problem is that the host is using qmail instead of sendmail, and that
 qmail does not like to see names.  It interprets the whole thing as one
 address.

 1.  Is this true?

Yup.

 2.  If it is, is there a way around it (besides dropping the names from
 the list)?

You would need to fix the program that's being used to send outgoing mail
so that it strips the name out of the address before passing it to qmail.
I don't know of anyone who's already done this work for the general case;
my mjinject script handles it for the simpler case of:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Doe)

though, and could probably be extended to handle the more general case.
You can get it from ftp://ftp.eyrie.org/pub/software/majordomo/mjinject.

-- 
Russ Allbery ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) URL:http://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/



Re: Bad Return-Path: Qmail bag?

2000-02-15 Thread Ilya

Ilya wrote:

 A mail contain:

 From: =?koi8-r?B?5/Xz8CBcIuLB28jMxcLP0NTJw8XQ0s/NXCI=?= [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Qmail generate:

 Return-Path: "ÃÓÑÏ  Áàøõëåáîïòèöåïðîì Gusp"@ufatel.ru

 Why? How can I correct it?



From: =?koi8-r?B?5/Xz8CBcIuLB28jMxcLP0NTJw8XQ0s/NXCI=?=
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

- it have " (quotation mark) before =?=
and Qmail generate bad Return-Path!
Is quotation mark permissible in mime encoded From: string?



Attachement logging

2000-02-15 Thread Christian Wiese

Hi folks,

I'm looking for a qmail solution for logging all incomming and outgoing
messages which contain attachements.

Thanks in advance.

Greetings

Christian



Custom mail directories

2000-02-15 Thread John P. Looney

 I have all must users account details stored in an SQL database, not in
/etc/password. I found the checkpassword program, and modified it so it
fills out the requesite information, and it seems to be working, for POP
mail.

 However, what do I do to allow qmail to *deliver* into the custom Mail
directories ?

Kate



Re: Custom mail directories

2000-02-15 Thread petervd

On Tue, Feb 15, 2000 at 11:57:32AM +, John P. Looney wrote:
  I have all must users account details stored in an SQL database, not in
 /etc/password. I found the checkpassword program, and modified it so it
 fills out the requesite information, and it seems to be working, for POP
 mail.
 
  However, what do I do to allow qmail to *deliver* into the custom Mail
 directories ?

Create users/assign from SQL. 

Greetz, Peter.
-- 
Peter van Dijk - student/sysadmin/ircoper/madly in love/pretending coder 
|  
| 'C makes it easy to shoot yourself in the foot;
|  C++ makes it harder, but when you do it blows your whole leg off.'
| Bjarne Stroustrup, Inventor of C++



Re: Big and/or famous sites using qmail?

2000-02-15 Thread brianb-qmail

On Tue, 15 Feb 2000, S Ashok Kumar wrote:

  What is Bluetail Mail Robustifier? I couldn't find any pointers on the Net.


Check out http://www.bluetail.com/products/index.shtml

Very interesting reading.

Brian

--
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.baquiran.com
AIM: bbaquiran



Re: Custom mail directories

2000-02-15 Thread John P. Looney

On Tue, Feb 15, 2000 at 01:00:57PM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] mentioned:
 On Tue, Feb 15, 2000 at 11:57:32AM +, John P. Looney wrote:
   I have all must users account details stored in an SQL database, not in
  /etc/password. I found the checkpassword program, and modified it so it
  fills out the requesite information, and it seems to be working, for POP
  mail.
  
   However, what do I do to allow qmail to *deliver* into the custom Mail
  directories ?
 
 Create users/assign from SQL. 

 Ah. That's a problem. I'll have to add to that file, every time a new
user is added ? ( say, 200 times a day ...)

Kate



Re: Custom mail directories

2000-02-15 Thread Anand Buddhdev

On Tue, Feb 15, 2000 at 11:57:32AM +, John P. Looney wrote:

  I have all must users account details stored in an SQL database, not in
 /etc/password. I found the checkpassword program, and modified it so it
 fills out the requesite information, and it seems to be working, for POP
 mail.
 
  However, what do I do to allow qmail to *deliver* into the custom Mail
 directories ?

man qmail-users

-- 
See complete headers for more info



Re: Custom mail directories

2000-02-15 Thread John P. Looney

On Tue, Feb 15, 2000 at 03:21:04PM +0300, Anand Buddhdev mentioned:
  /etc/password. I found the checkpassword program, and modified it so it
  fills out the requesite information, and it seems to be working, for POP
  mail.
   However, what do I do to allow qmail to *deliver* into the custom Mail
  directories ?
 man qmail-users

 I was hoping there was an alternate way; that I could find the home
directory required in a similar way as to how pop3d can authenticate
via a plugin. All the users info is in an SQL database, which is updated
between a hundred and a thousand times a day, so regenerating the assign
file is not an option.

Kate



time stamp

2000-02-15 Thread patrick.lagace


hello qmail

for some reasons it seams like qmail gives a wrong time stamp to my
incomming email's.
Systems time are O.K. i really dont know where it comes from??



here is  a copy of the header:

real time is : Tue, 15 Feb 2000 07:49:39


  Received:
 (qmail 21931 invoked from network); 15 Feb 2000
12:49:00 -
Received:
 from netgate.mydomain (HELO maingate.mydomain)
(XXX.XX.XXX.XX) by netserver.mydomain with SMTP; 15 Feb 2000 12:49:00
-
Received:
 by maingate.mydomain; (5.65v4.0/1.3/10May95) id
XXX; Tue, 15 Feb 2000 07:49:39 -0500
Received:
 from muncher.math.uic.edu by maingate.mydomain
(smtpxd); id XXX
Received:
 (qmail 25841 invoked by uid ); 15 Feb 2000
12:49:40 -




thanks in advance

[EMAIL PROTECTED]




RE: Problem Found

2000-02-15 Thread Dave Sill

"Peter Samuel" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Yes. The message is deferred because preline exited with the
appropriate status. qmail tries the delivery again and folows the
instructions in the .qmail file, one of which is to save the message
in the user's Maildir/ It stopped after 7 days as that is the default
queuelifetime value.

When delivering to both a mailbox and a program, it's better to
deliver them via separate .qmail files because if they're in one
.qmail file, and either delivery fails temporarily, *both* will be
retried every time.

E.g., instead of:

  ~user/.qmail:

./Maildir/
|vacation

Do:

  ~user/.qmail:

user-maildir
user-vacation

  ~user/.qmail-maildir:

./Maildir/

  ~user/.qmail-vacation:

|vacation

This way, the maildir and vacation deliveries are independent, and if
one fails and is retried, the other won't be multiply delivered.

-Dave



Re: daemontools-0.61 and qmailanalog

2000-02-15 Thread Dave Sill

Jeremy Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

cat tmp | tai64n | ./tai64n2time | /usr/local/qmailanalog/bin/matchup  |

As Russ Allbery pointed out, you should be timestamping the log
entries at the time they occur. But I couldn't let the egregious use
of "cat" go by...

  cat file | prog ...

is silly. Instead use:

  prog file ...

-Dave



Re: address translation

2000-02-15 Thread Bruno Wolff III

On Tue, Feb 15, 2000 at 08:02:24AM +0100,
  Hans Sandsdalen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 I just want to remove the "host!" part of the string. I could of 
 course use .qmail files, but this will be a lot of work. There
 is not a fixed number of hosts nor users at each host.

You can use the catch .qmail file (~alias/.qmail-default) and condredirect
to do what you want. You need one condredirect line for each address that
might have their mail forwarded this way.

If you really want to do generic relaying of this sort, then you can get
by using formail to resend the message. Make sure you check the host
you are forwarding to against a list of valid hosts so you don't get abused
by spammers.



Not a FAQ 5.4 ?

2000-02-15 Thread Cor Lem

Hello,

1) I've set up pop3, this all works fine
2) ip's listed in host.allow can send mail (through smtp - FAQ 5.4)

Problem:
When someon tries do deliver mail to my server (trough smtp), which
is for a domain listed in control/rcpthosts it's not allowed to do so :o(

After reading the documentation and specialy man qmail-smtpd I think
this is wrong behaviour ... 

Since it should be deliverded localy it should be accepted, no matter
where it's from. So this isn't a relaying problem, if I have a correct
understand of the documentation.

Can someone please explane where i'm going wrong here?

Thanks for any response,
Cor Lem 



Re: Mailing List

2000-02-15 Thread Dave Sill

"Naren" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Please could someone tell me how to unsubscribe from this list 
PLEASE.
I sent a blank message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 
But I still receive mail I have lost that address now
PLEASE HELP ME SOMEONE..
My mailbox is overflooding

See:

  http://Web.InfoAve.Net/~dsill/lwq.html#mailing-lists

-Dave



Re: Custom mail directories

2000-02-15 Thread brianb-qmail

On Tue, 15 Feb 2000, John P. Looney wrote:

 On Tue, Feb 15, 2000 at 03:21:04PM +0300, Anand Buddhdev mentioned:
   /etc/password. I found the checkpassword program, and modified it so it
   fills out the requesite information, and it seems to be working, for POP
   mail.
However, what do I do to allow qmail to *deliver* into the custom Mail
   directories ?
  man qmail-users
 
  I was hoping there was an alternate way; that I could find the home
 directory required in a similar way as to how pop3d can authenticate
 via a plugin. All the users info is in an SQL database, which is updated
 between a hundred and a thousand times a day, so regenerating the assign
 file is not an option.

You probably should use something like vpopmail
(http://www.inter7.com/vpopmail) which does this. The current version has
support for MySQL.

Brian
--
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.baquiran.com
AIM: bbaquiran



Re: Not a FAQ 5.4 ?

2000-02-15 Thread Dave Sill

Cor Lem [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

1) I've set up pop3, this all works fine
2) ip's listed in host.allow can send mail (through smtp - FAQ 5.4)

Problem:
When someon tries do deliver mail to my server (trough smtp), which
is for a domain listed in control/rcpthosts it's not allowed to do so :o(

You didn't supply a copy of the error message, but I suspect the
problem is that the domains listed in control/rcpthosts aren't also
listed in control/locals and/or you didn't restart qmail after
modifying locals.

-Dave



Re: time stamp

2000-02-15 Thread Dave Sill

"patrick.lagace" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

for some reasons it seams like qmail gives a wrong time stamp to my
incomming email's.

qmail logs using Universal Coordinated Time (UTC), not the local
timezone. This is a feature. There's no "fix".

-Dave



ezmlm-idx 0.40 and web archives...

2000-02-15 Thread Angus Robertson


Is it possible to have the ezmlm-idx web archive on a seperate server
from the qmail/ezmlm server?

thanks,

angus



RE: Not a FAQ 5.4 ?

2000-02-15 Thread Häffelin Holger

did you finish your tcp.smtp with :deny  Change it to :allow 

Holger

 -Original Message-
 From: Cor Lem [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Dienstag, 15. Februar 2000 15:48
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Not a FAQ 5.4 ?
 
 
 Hello,
 
 1) I've set up pop3, this all works fine
 2) ip's listed in host.allow can send mail (through smtp - FAQ 5.4)
 
 Problem:
 When someon tries do deliver mail to my server (trough smtp), which
 is for a domain listed in control/rcpthosts it's not allowed 
 to do so :o(
 
 After reading the documentation and specialy man qmail-smtpd I think
 this is wrong behaviour ... 
 
 Since it should be deliverded localy it should be accepted, no matter
 where it's from. So this isn't a relaying problem, if I have a correct
 understand of the documentation.
 
 Can someone please explane where i'm going wrong here?
 
 Thanks for any response,
 Cor Lem 
 



Re: Not a FAQ 5.4 ?

2000-02-15 Thread Cor Lem

At 10:07 15-2-00 -0500, you wrote:
Cor Lem [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

1) I've set up pop3, this all works fine
2) ip's listed in host.allow can send mail (through smtp - FAQ 5.4)

Problem:
When someon tries do deliver mail to my server (trough smtp), which
is for a domain listed in control/rcpthosts it's not allowed to do so :o(

You didn't supply a copy of the error message,

I don't get one. When I send it all works perfectly (since i've listed my
ip in
tcp-env hosts.allow)

Only I see in my logs the folowing line:
Feb 15 16:16:54 lizzard tcp-env[19430]: refused connect from 194.235.48.8

When I put this ip (temporarly) in hosts.allow I recieve a mail adressed to
user@mylocaldomain

but I suspect the problem is that the domains listed in control/rcpthosts
aren't also listed in control/locals and/or you didn't restart qmail after
modifying locals.

I've checked, it is in locals and yes i did ...

Hope this makes it a bit clearer

Cor Lem



RE: Not a FAQ 5.4 ?

2000-02-15 Thread Cor Lem

At 16:14 15-2-00 +0100, you wrote:
did you finish your tcp.smtp with :deny  Change it to :allow 

Holger

Is that required when I use inet.d?

Cor Lem

 -Original Message-
 From: Cor Lem [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Dienstag, 15. Februar 2000 15:48
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Not a FAQ 5.4 ?
 
 
 Hello,
 
 1) I've set up pop3, this all works fine
 2) ip's listed in host.allow can send mail (through smtp - FAQ 5.4)
 
 Problem:
 When someon tries do deliver mail to my server (trough smtp), which
 is for a domain listed in control/rcpthosts it's not allowed 
 to do so :o(
 
 After reading the documentation and specialy man qmail-smtpd I think
 this is wrong behaviour ... 
 
 Since it should be deliverded localy it should be accepted, no matter
 where it's from. So this isn't a relaying problem, if I have a correct
 understand of the documentation.
 
 Can someone please explane where i'm going wrong here?
 
 Thanks for any response,
 Cor Lem 
 
 



Re: daemontools-0.61 and qmailanalog

2000-02-15 Thread Jeremy Hansen


Ok, this part I don't understand.  I'm using the t option, yet in my long
I see no timestamp at all.  Tmp is just a sample output from multilog.

Are you saying that tai64n should be used at logging?  Perhaps you could
give me an example that would better clarify this for me.

Thanks
-jeremy

 So what's tmp (ie, where does it come from)?  Just looking at that command
 line, it looks a lot like you're adding timestamps to every line fresh
 each time you run the above command pipeline, which means that you're
 giving every line pretty much the same timestamp.
 
 tai64n is intended to be used to put an accurate timestamp on each line
 *when it's logged*, not after the fact.  Since you're using multilog, you
 don't need it at all; just use the t action in multilog.
 
 -- 
 Russ Allbery ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) URL:http://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/
 


http://www.xxedgexx.com | [EMAIL PROTECTED]
-



Re: daemontools-0.61 and qmailanalog

2000-02-15 Thread Russ Allbery

Jeremy Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Ok, this part I don't understand.  I'm using the t option, yet in my
 long I see no timestamp at all.  Tmp is just a sample output from
 multilog.

What does your multilog command line look like?  Order of actions is
significant.

-- 
Russ Allbery ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) URL:http://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/



Re: Not a FAQ 5.4 ?

2000-02-15 Thread Cor Lem

At 11:01 15-2-00 -0500, you wrote:
You need to add a rule to hosts.allow that allows every host to
connect to
your SMTP port but does not set RELAYCLIENT.

Your default is set to deny access which is NOT what you want.
:)

That makes sense ...
I've added the folowing lines to my hosts.allow:

tcp-env: 192.168., 127.0.0.1: setenv =
RELAYCLIENT
tcp-env: ALL

It works now :o)

Thanks for all the response,
Cor Lem


On Tue, 15 Feb 2000, Cor Lem wrote:

 At 10:07 15-2-00 -0500, you wrote:
 Cor Lem [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 1) I've set up pop3, this all works fine
 2) ip's listed in host.allow can send mail (through smtp
- FAQ 5.4)
 
 Problem:
 When someon tries do deliver mail to my server (trough
smtp), which
 is for a domain listed in control/rcpthosts it's not
allowed to do so :o(
 
 You didn't supply a copy of the error message,
 
 I don't get one. When I send it all works perfectly (since i've
listed my
 ip in
 tcp-env hosts.allow)
 
 Only I see in my logs the folowing line:
 Feb 15 16:16:54 lizzard tcp-env[19430]: refused connect from
194.235.48.8
 
 When I put this ip (temporarly) in hosts.allow I recieve a mail
adressed to
 user@mylocaldomain
 
 but I suspect the problem is that the domains listed in
control/rcpthosts
 aren't also listed in control/locals and/or you didn't
restart qmail after
 modifying locals.
 
 I've checked, it is in locals and yes i did ...
 
 Hope this makes it a bit clearer
 
 Cor Lem
 

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-ERR

2000-02-15 Thread chupepe




Have u changed to Maildir's in the 
/var/qmail/defaultdelivery/* files?
And have u created the Maildir directory using the command 
maildirmake /directory-to-create-in-user's-home?

I u want i can mail u my /qmail/var files in a tgz 
attach.

Please resapond with your email address if u r 
interested.

Have a nice day.

And good luck.

Byte.

Ing. José Rodríguez Alarcón

  -Mensaje original-De: 
  jandj [EMAIL PROTECTED]Para: 
  chupepe [EMAIL PROTECTED]Fecha: 
  Lunes 14 de Febrero de 2000 10:30 PMAsunto: Re: 
  -ERR
  I did install from rpm's but changed to 
  Maildir's.
  
  
- Original Message - 
From: 
chupepe 

To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, February 15, 1999 4:41 
PM
Subject: -ERR

Had the same problem last week.

I've solved it, but to help u i need to know if u r going 
to use POP3 with Maildir's or with mbox (dafault if u installed Qmail from 
rpm's)




Re: -ERR

2000-02-15 Thread Brad Kanipe

I don't have any problems delivering to the maildir
directories, everything is working fine, pop users get
their mail fine as well. My problem is trying to read
the mail when I'm on the localhost using the "mail"
command that I'm trying to figure out.  

--- chupepe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Have u changed to Maildir's in the
 /var/qmail/defaultdelivery/* files?
 And have u created the Maildir directory using the
 command maildirmake
 /directory-to-create-in-user's-home?
 
 I u want i can mail u my /qmail/var files in a tgz
 attach.
 
 Please resapond with your email address if u r
 interested.
 
 Have a nice day.
 
 And good luck.
 
 Byte.
 
 Ing. José Rodríguez Alarcón
   -Mensaje original-
   De: jandj [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Para: chupepe [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Fecha: Lunes 14 de Febrero de 2000 10:30 PM
   Asunto: Re: -ERR
 
 
   I did install from rpm's but changed to Maildir's.
 
 - Original Message - 
 From: chupepe 
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Monday, February 15, 1999 4:41 PM
 Subject: -ERR
 
 
 Had the same problem last week.
 
 I've solved it, but to help u i need to know if
 u r going to use POP3 with Maildir's or with mbox
 (dafault if u installed Qmail from rpm's)
 
 
 
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Re: -ERR

2000-02-15 Thread Brad Kanipe

Sorry guys, wrong thread. 

--- chupepe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Have u changed to Maildir's in the
 /var/qmail/defaultdelivery/* files?
 And have u created the Maildir directory using the
 command maildirmake
 /directory-to-create-in-user's-home?
 
 I u want i can mail u my /qmail/var files in a tgz
 attach.
 
 Please resapond with your email address if u r
 interested.
 
 Have a nice day.
 
 And good luck.
 
 Byte.
 
 Ing. José Rodríguez Alarcón
   -Mensaje original-
   De: jandj [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Para: chupepe [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Fecha: Lunes 14 de Febrero de 2000 10:30 PM
   Asunto: Re: -ERR
 
 
   I did install from rpm's but changed to Maildir's.
 
 - Original Message - 
 From: chupepe 
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Monday, February 15, 1999 4:41 PM
 Subject: -ERR
 
 
 Had the same problem last week.
 
 I've solved it, but to help u i need to know if
 u r going to use POP3 with Maildir's or with mbox
 (dafault if u installed Qmail from rpm's)
 
 
 
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Re: -ERR BRAD KANIPE

2000-02-15 Thread chupepe



No problem about the confussion with the threads.

You should try the command:

mail -f /USER's home dir/Maildir/new/* 


Of course u should change "USER's home dir" for the actual 
directory.

It works fine in my server, hope itworks 4 u 2.

Have a nice day.

Byte.

Ing. José Rodríguez Alarcón


Re: qmail Maildir and UNIX mail

2000-02-15 Thread Magnus Bodin

On Tue, Feb 15, 2000 at 09:50:41AM -0800, Brad Kanipe wrote:
 I'm trying to figure out a way for the UNIX "mail" 
 program to read from the ~/Maildir, specifically
 Solaris 2.6, and 7. Does qmail have a maildir mail
 reader, if so I've considered aliasing /bin/mail to
 that qmail mail reader. Any thoughts??

Mutt is _the_ client for Maildir. There is patches for Pine too.

I haven't hear of a command line mail reader for Maildir boxes.

/magnus

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Re: qmail Maildir and UNIX mail

2000-02-15 Thread Dave Sill

Brad Kanipe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I'm trying to figure out a way for the UNIX "mail" 
program to read from the ~/Maildir, specifically
Solaris 2.6, and 7. Does qmail have a maildir mail
reader, if so I've considered aliasing /bin/mail to
that qmail mail reader. Any thoughts??

/var/qmail/bin/qail

-Dave



qmail Maildir and Mailbox

2000-02-15 Thread Director tecnico--Nodo Nicarao

May someone indicate me where can I find documentation that explain the
differences between "Maildir" and "Mailboxes"?

Juan Navas
Nicarao Node




Re: qmail Maildir and Mailbox

2000-02-15 Thread Dave Sill

Director tecnico--Nodo Nicarao [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

May someone indicate me where can I find documentation that explain the
differences between "Maildir" and "Mailboxes"?

man maildir
man mbox

-Dave



Multiple qmail problems newbie

2000-02-15 Thread Chad Day

I've poured over some FAQs and man-pages and read the HOWTO's, so now here I
am.. I know this is probably a basic/common question, but I seriously can't
find it, so please don't yell at me to RTFM, because I have.

First, a description of the setup.

router/firewall --   mail server --   my machine

Mail gets filtered through the mail server to kill spam, etc.

When trying to send mail to my machine from outside the network, it never
gets delivered.  No error message generated at the sender's end, except an
undeliverable/will keep trying for 5 days bit.

I am able to send from my machine to anywhere on the net, no problem.
I was able to successfully run the qmail tests local/local.

When sending from a machine inside the network to my box, the following
occurs.

If sending to [EMAIL PROTECTED] (me), the mail client from which I am sending
returns:
Please choose one of the following options by parenthesized letter: Send
 e)dit message, edit h)eaders, s)end it,
or f)orget it.
Mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
mailer returned error status
67

According to SYSEXITS.H, that is:
#define EX_NOUSER   67  /* addressee unknown */

When sending to [EMAIL PROTECTED] (my FQDN) from inside the network, it
sends ok.

When sending to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED] outside the network,
it never arrives.  The friendly sysadmin of the shell I am sending these
outside messages from showed me his queue, and this is what it looks like:

your mail server is flat down, that's why :)

it's not even running sendmail on your end, it appears.

root@permanently 12429 [/usr/local/src/7] # telnet mail.frungy.com 25
Trying 208.246.80.143...
root@permanently 12430 [/usr/local/src/7] # telnet www.frungy.com 25
Trying 208.246.80.143...
root@permanently 12431 [/usr/local/src/7] # telnet zoq.frungy.com 25
Trying 208.246.80.143...
^Croot@permanently 12432 [/usr/local/src/7] #

Mail Queue (19 requests)
--Q-ID-- --Size-- -Q-Time- Sender/Recipient
NAA11918*   0 Tue Feb 15 13:55 cday
 (Deferred: Connection timed out with mail.frungy.com.)
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
NAA118660 Tue Feb 15 13:53 cday
 (Deferred: Connection timed out with mail.frungy.com.)
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
OAA121048 Tue Feb 15 14:07 cday
 (Deferred: Connection timed out with zoq.frungy.com.)
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
NAA118150 Tue Feb 15 13:49 cday
 (Deferred: Connection timed out with mail.frungy.com.)
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
NAA117270 Tue Feb 15 13:41 cday
 (Deferred: Connection timed out with mail.frungy.com.)
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]

(etc etc)

So, I naturally thought this is probably something with my firewall.  
In my firewall config, I added the line:

permit tcp any host 208.246.80.143 eq smtp

So I should be able to receive mail from outside I figured, but it is not
working.

[root@zoq control]# cat rcpthosts 
zoq.frungy.com
beachassociates.com
localhost
frungy.com

[root@zoq control]# cat tcp.smtp
208.246.80.:allow,RELAYCLIENT=""
:allow

I checked the mail logs on the mail server, and it doesn't look like it's
even getting that far, as I don't see any relaying denied messages (and yes,
I added my host to relay-domains and HUPed sendmail.)

Any ideas guys?  I'm tearing my hair out here..

Thanks,
Chad Day

- I heard if you play the NT CD backwards, you can hear satanic messages?
- That's NOTHING. If you play it forwards, it installs NT 4.0.



Please disregard Multiple qmail problems newbie

2000-02-15 Thread Chad Day

I fixed most of the problems.. shoulda went to firewall and routers 101 in
college I guess instead of sleeping in until noon.

The only problem I have now is that mail to @frungy.com bounces, but
zoq.frungy.com works, but I'm sure this is a FAQ and can likely figure this
out myself.

Thanks,
Chad Day
Beach Associates

- I heard if you play the NT CD backwards, you can hear satanic messages?
- That's NOTHING. If you play it forwards, it installs NT 4.0.



Re: why wont q-mail use other mail exchanger??

2000-02-15 Thread Brian Johnson

ok, I read that thread (or most of it anyway)  interesting discussion - but
this isn't the problem I'm having...
I can't connect to the remote host at all...  I tried to connecting to the host
with telnet and the connection just times-out (I even logged the packets and
didn't get any replys from the remote host) and I've pinged the remote host
with no response..   so the remote host is down...  and I'm not going through
any kind of firewall..  as far as I can tell it seems that there's something
wrong with my qmail setup..  especially since it's giving the wrong error
message in the logs...

Greg Owen wrote:

  now, the mail.meyersbros.com server is the one that seems to be down,
  and the one that q-mail's trying to send to..  but since it's
  failing to send to that server, shouldn't it automatically try one of
  the others instead??  I connected to both of the others with telnet,
  and they seem to be fine..  so, why has my message been sitting in my
  queue all day?

 This was discussed in detail under the subject "When will qmail back
 off to the next MX" between 9/15/99 and 9/28/99.  In summary, a dropped
 connection is NOT interpreted as a machine down, so qmail never backs off.
 The problem may be caused by a combination of a proxying firewall on your
 end (like Raptor) and a firewalled primary MX on the other end, in which
 case you can fix the problem by modifying your firewall not to proxy
 outgoing SMTP.

 Go to the archives, read the thread, and let us know if that doesn't
 answer things for you.  But the main answer to your question is, "No, it
 doesn't back off in that case, and arguably shouldn't."

 --
 gowen -- Greg Owen -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]



-ERR usage:

2000-02-15 Thread kiwitp

This is what I did to change to Maildir's # /var/qmail/bin/maildirmake
/home/user/Maildir Then I edited /etc/profile.d/qmail.sh and
/etc/profile.d/qmail.csh and changed Mailbox to Maildir/ but I am still
getting the -ERR usage: popup hostname subprogram.

Jerry
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

cheers

  - Original Message -
  From: chupepe
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 1999 7:10 AM
  Subject: -ERR


  Have u changed to Maildir's in the /var/qmail/defaultdelivery/* files?
  And have u created the Maildir directory using the command maildirmake
/directory-to-create-in-user's-home?

  I u want i can mail u my /qmail/var files in a tgz attach.

  Please resapond with your email address if u r interested.

  Have a nice day.

  And good luck.

  Byte.

  Ing. José Rodríguez Alarcón
-Mensaje original-
De: jandj [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Para: chupepe [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Fecha: Lunes 14 de Febrero de 2000 10:30 PM
Asunto: Re: -ERR


I did install from rpm's but changed to Maildir's.

  - Original Message -
  From: chupepe
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Monday, February 15, 1999 4:41 PM
  Subject: -ERR


  Had the same problem last week.

  I've solved it, but to help u i need to know if u r going to use POP3
with Maildir's or with mbox (dafault if u installed Qmail from rpm's)





qmail Digest 15 Feb 2000 11:00:01 -0000 Issue 912

2000-02-15 Thread qmail-digest-help


qmail Digest 15 Feb 2000 11:00:01 - Issue 912

Topics (messages 37175 through 37237):

Re: qmail on FFS with softupdates
37175 by: Len Budney

Web interface pop3 mail checker
37176 by: Martin
37177 by: Häffelin Holger
37179 by: Charles Cazabon

About authentication with Maildir
37178 by: mulin

Re: address translation
37180 by: Bruno Wolff III
37205 by: Hans Sandsdalen

Re: remote localhost...
37181 by: Tiju
37184 by: Brian

how to have mail go out on different interfaces???
37182 by: Jeremy Hansen

Re: Anyone using Qmail in a corporate environment, got time on your hands ?
37183 by: Martin Lesser
37216 by: Russ Allbery

attachment and other logging!
37185 by: Martin
37193 by: brianb-qmail.technet.evoserve.com

daemontools-0.61 and qmailanalog
37186 by: Jeremy Hansen
37192 by: Frederik Lindberg
37218 by: Russ Allbery
37225 by: Russ Allbery

boot scripts
37187 by: a.kasates
37201 by: Magnus Bodin
37235 by: mulin

daemontools supervise help
37188 by: Peter Schultz

Re: GFS and Qmail and BIG mail servers
37189 by: adam.cybertrails.com
37190 by: Jeremy Hansen

Re: Problem Found
37191 by: Peter Samuel
37198 by: Ewen Fung
37199 by: Peter Samuel
37203 by: Ewen Fung
37204 by: Peter Samuel

receive mail again  again
37194 by: Keith, Yeung Wai Kin

-ERR
37195 by: kiwitp
37196 by: chupepe

Qmail  Majordomo
37197 by: Andrew Scott
37222 by: Russ Allbery
37227 by: petervd.vuurwerk.nl

How to delete a lot of spam mail in queue?
37200 by: ±ióI·Ô
37202 by: Magnus Bodin

problems with qmail and incoming mail
37206 by: James Timberlake

removing a msg from the queue
37207 by: Jim Breton
37208 by: Anand Buddhdev
37209 by: Jim Breton
37212 by: Anand Buddhdev

Attachment Problem
37210 by: Emmanuel Nee

Bad Return-Path: Qmail bag?
37211 by: Ilya
37213 by: Pavel Kankovsky
37214 by: petervd.vuurwerk.nl
37217 by: Ilya
37220 by: petervd.vuurwerk.nl
37223 by: Pavel Kankovsky
37226 by: Pavel Kankovsky
37228 by: Anand Buddhdev
37229 by: petervd.vuurwerk.nl
37233 by: Ilya
37234 by: petervd.vuurwerk.nl

Uh-oh:_first_line_of_.qmail_file_is_blank._(#4.2.1)/
37215 by: Shashi Dahal
37231 by: Robert Sander

Re: Big and/or famous sites using qmail?
37219 by: Jenny Holmberg
37221 by: petervd.vuurwerk.nl
37236 by: S Ashok Kumar

how do I
37224 by: Naren
37230 by: Naren

Mailing List
37232 by: Naren

Changing FROM:
37237 by: Michael Neubert

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Anand Buddhdev [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Dan does not recommend the use of a softupdates file system for the
 queue. If FFS+softupdates = standard FFS+faster, then there should be
 no harm in using it.

This is something I _can_ comment on. In fact, I already did, in
message 42203 on this list:

"Len Budney" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Using softupdates under *BSD gives you the reliability of sync
  (somewhat more, actually), with nearly the speed of async.
 
 In October of 1999, that wasn't quite true...
 
``In particular, if you put a mail queue on a softupdates filesystem,
you can lose mail when the power goes out, just as if you were using
Linux.''   -- Dan Bernstein, http://x38.deja.com/getdoc.xp?AN=539496358
 
 From Dan's other comments in that thread, it appears that the rename()
 call returns success before the rename was committed to disk. Dan said
 ``mail programs'' rely on rename() to tell the truth. A look at the
 source code suggests that qmail is not one of them--qmail-queue doesn't
 use the rename() call.
 
 If link() is subject to the same complaint as rename(), then qmail
 probably _does_ have the same reliability problem on a softupdates
 filesystem as on an async filesystem.

Len.


--
Some people are suffering from the delusion that program modularity is
incompatible with good performance.
-- Dan Bernstein






I'm going to setup a web interfaced pop3 mail 
checker for the isp I work for.
Yesterday I tried something called acmemail, a cgi 
script written in perl.
I didn't get this thing working, and the is not 
many manuals on this subject (as I could find).
Anyone have something to recommend?
It has to be safe and userfriendly, but it has to 
excist something out there that I can get 

-ERR authorization failed

2000-02-15 Thread kiwitp

I think I am getting somewhere now. the only problem now seems to whit
passwords. When I try to connect to the mail server from a win9x box outlook
I get -ERR authorization failed even tow I enter the user name and password.
Could this be because windows is sending encrypted passwords? If so what can
I do about this?

cheers
Jerry



RE: Big and/or famous sites using qmail? --Big not famous

2000-02-15 Thread Gregory J. Forkin

Here is one that has a large subscriber base and uses qmail. It certainly isn't famous 
though.

This is one of those ISP co-op sites
http://www.bsicom.net/ispshare/weather/cgi-bin/weather.pl


Greg

-Original Message-
From:   [EMAIL PROTECTED] [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent:   Tuesday, February 15, 2000 12:01 PM
To: S Ashok Kumar
Cc: Jenny Holmberg; Bruce Guenter; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject:Re: Big and/or famous sites using qmail?

On Tue, 15 Feb 2000, S Ashok Kumar wrote:

  What is Bluetail Mail Robustifier? I couldn't find any pointers on the Net.


Check out http://www.bluetail.com/products/index.shtml

Very interesting reading.

Brian

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Re: -ERR authorization failed

2000-02-15 Thread Erich Zigler

On Wed, Feb 16, 2000 at 02:31:30PM +1300, kiwitp wrote:

 When I telnet port 110 I get +ok942.950664165@INIT_VERSION=sysvinit and
 then -ERR authorization first. I enter user name and password but I just
 keep getting the -ERR message..

Are you using just qmail or are you also using vpopmail?

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 The purpose of woriting is to inflate weak ideas, obscure pure reasoning,
  and inhibit clarity. With a little practice, writing can be an
intimidating and impenetrable fog! -- Calvin



RFC: Command-line MUA for Maildirs?

2000-02-15 Thread Len Budney

Magnus Bodin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Mutt is _the_ client for Maildir. There is patches for Pine too.
 I haven't hear of a command line mail reader for Maildir boxes.
  ^^

Speaking of which, is anyone interested in building such a thing? Or,
would anyone use such a thing if it existed?

I still use MH, with all its drawbacks, because it offers the
most flexibility.  Emacs/Mew for awesome MIME handling, GNUs
for...well...reading GNUsly, command-line MH for quick handling of
individual messages.

Does anybody wish for a command-line interface to maildirs, on the idea
of MH? If it were architected right, the result would be some simple tools
which would facilitate other MUAs jumping on the maildir bandwagon...

Len.


--
There's a fine opportunity here, but the IETF is institutionally incapable
of taking advantage of it. I think it's safe to say that the DRUMS specs
will be even more widely violated than RFC 822.
-- Dan Bernstein



tcpserver problem

2000-02-15 Thread Francis Francis


Hi
   I am new to qmail. I got following problem when I
try to telnet to port 25 or using mail client to send
mail.
I got log message : tcpserver:warning: dropping
connection,unable to read /etc/tcp.smtp.cdb: file does
not exist.

but when I do ls -l /etc/tcp.smtp.cdb, the file is
there.
also I do wc  /etc/tcp.smtp.cdb, the output is
1   2  2138  /etc/smtp.cdb

thanks for help

Francis
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