Re: CHANGING INETD

2000-08-19 Thread Greg White


- Original Message -
From: Chris Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Qmail List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, August 18, 2000 11:02 PM
Subject: Re: CHANGING INETD


 On Fri, Aug 18, 2000 at 08:54:54PM -0700, Greg White wrote:
  qmail will work fine as a daemon, but you get some really handy
  functionality from running it under tcpserver:
 
  1. RELAYCLIENT environment variable on a per-ip basis.
 
  2. The ability to trivially add rbl filtering to disallow dirty
spamboxen
  from access to qmail-smtpd.
 
  and probably other lovely bits as well.

 There seems to be an inordinate amount of misinformation on the list
lately.

 None of the qmail programs that depend on listening for network
connections
 (qmail-smtpd, qmail-pop3d, qmail-qmqpd, qmail-qmtpd) can run as a
standalone
 daemon.
SNIP

My bad. Looking back again at the docs etc., I see that I was talking out my
ass about qmail-smtpd as a stand-alone daemon (although I seem to remember
doing this at some point, perhaps pre-1.03, or perhaps my brain fails me yet
again). My own searches on the subject reveal no results, so perhaps I
misremember this completely.

That being said, however, my intention was merely to indicate that even if
one could run qmail-smtpd as a stand-alone daemon, why would one want to
given just the two examples given above as additional functionality.

GW




Re: yahoo down?

2000-08-19 Thread Rogerio Brito

On Aug 18 2000, Ben Beuchler wrote:
 Hmm.  Telnetting to the server on port 25 says that it is something
 called YSmtp.  And sending it a 'help' command returns 
 '250 OK.  Yahoo! MTA'.  Sounds like something proprietary...

Humm... Some of their messages seem hauntingly familiar. :-)
IMVHO, it looks like they've hacked qmail with loads of
patches (like POP before SMTP and such).

BTW, Iname's host is Mail.com and they seem to periodically
have problems with their hosts. :-(

I dream of the day I have a permanent connection to the net so
that I can put a DJB-based solution for my e-mails...


[]s, Roger...

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Re: Queue Time

2000-08-19 Thread Rogerio Brito

On Aug 18 2000, Michael T. Babcock wrote:
 I'm not Dan, but this is slightly less mathematical than it sounds.  The
 main point (if I understand DJB here) is:
 
 Its only an hour late?  Another 10 minutes will hurt about "this much".
 Its a day late?  Another hour will probably also hurt about "this much".
 Its a week late?  Another (day?) won't hurt more than, oh, "this much".
 
 "this much" being more or less equal ... djb: '...is worth the same as...'
 
 ... where the amount of delay is respective to the amount of accumulated
 delay.

Oh, thanks. Yes, I think that I understand the intuition
behind those claims.

I was looking for more detains about the mathematical side of
the things (e.g., what is the measure of "hurt", in your words
or the cost to which Dan refers?) and like why the optimal
retry schedule is essentially independent of the actual
distribution of message delay times. And why did Dan choose a
quadratic retry schedule and not, say, a cubic one? For some
convenience?

If Dan (or any other poster) could help, I'd be very gateful.
:-)


Thanks for your insight, Roger...

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qmail Digest 19 Aug 2000 10:00:01 -0000 Issue 1097

2000-08-19 Thread qmail-digest-help


qmail Digest 19 Aug 2000 10:00:01 - Issue 1097

Topics (messages 46938 through 47016):

Re: Sort maildir and send smallest first
46938 by: Andrew Richards
46939 by: Chris, the Young One

prioq (was Re: Sort maildir and send smallest first)
46940 by: Chris, the Young One

Re: Error: Deferred: Connection refused
46941 by: Dieter Wilhelm

Re: auth/identd?
46942 by: James R Grinter

qmail-qfilter-problem
46943 by: Lars Pfuhl
46945 by: Petr Novotny
46946 by: Russell P. Sutherland
46950 by: Lars Pfuhl
46953 by: Chris Johnson
46954 by: Bruce Guenter

Re: Queue Time
46944 by: Michael T. Babcock
46992 by: richard.illuin.org
46994 by: Eric Cox
47016 by: Rogerio Brito

Re: rblsmtpd emergency
46947 by: Michael T. Babcock

offtopic: Re: prioq
46948 by: Chris, the Young One

Re: 4.7.1 error reported to netscape mail client
46949 by: Dave Sill
46952 by: Jenny Holmberg

tcpserver can't do setuid
46951 by: jan

store/forward env var?
46955 by: Tyler J. Frederick
46956 by: James Raftery
46959 by: David Dyer-Bennet
46960 by: Tyler J. Frederick
46966 by: Dave Sill

qmail binary redistribution question
46957 by: Peter Green
46965 by: Dave Sill

Linux Mandrake qmail packages available
46958 by: Vincent Danen

INETD AND UCSPI-TCP
46961 by: tigre21.gamma.qnet.com.pe
46968 by: Dave Sill

UCSPI-TCP
46962 by: tigre21.gamma.qnet.com.pe
46964 by: Aaron L. Meehan
46967 by: Dave Sill

Shifting from Sendmail to Qmail
46963 by: Sanjay Arora
46969 by: Dave Sill

SMTP In - Virus Scan - QMQP Out
46970 by: Kevin Sawyer
46972 by: Sean C Truman
46973 by: markd.bushwire.net

few Qs from newbie
46971 by: jakubski.poczta.arena.pl

How is this damn spam getting through.
46974 by: Duane L.
46975 by: wolfgang zeikat
46976 by: Timothy L. Mayo

sending e-mai to an ip address
46977 by: Jeff Mangewala
46978 by: Timothy L. Mayo

tcpserver/qmail problems
46979 by: R. Bettencourtt
46980 by: R. Bettencourtt
46982 by: Dale Miracle

Re: tcpserver/qmail problems - done
46981 by: R. Bettencourtt

CHANGING INETD
46983 by: tigre21.gamma.qnet.com.pe
46984 by: Dale Miracle
46986 by: David Dyer-Bennet
46989 by: Dale Miracle
46996 by: Al Sparks
47001 by: Ben Beuchler
47003 by: Al Sparks
47008 by: Greg White
47013 by: Chris Johnson
47014 by: Greg White

bcc's not accepted?
46985 by: Scott Sharkey
46987 by: Ihnen, David
46988 by: Dale Miracle

yahoo down?
46990 by: Ben Beuchler
46991 by: M.B.
46995 by: Dale Miracle
46998 by: Al Sparks
47002 by: Vince Vielhaber
47005 by: Al Sparks
47009 by: Brett Randall
47010 by: Ben Beuchler
47012 by: Brett Randall
47015 by: Rogerio Brito

obtaining TCPREMOTEIP during delivery
46993 by: Ben Beuchler
46997 by: Ricardo Cerqueira
47000 by: Ben Beuchler
47011 by: David Dyer-Bennet

Re: Is This Annoying Enough?
46999 by: Greg White
47007 by: Eric Cox

Re: Interesting MAPS issue
47004 by: Greg White

mbox o maildir
47006 by: tigre21.gamma.qnet.com.pe

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(Picking up a thread running from 26th July to 9th August)

Jacob,

I find that qmail is taking my maildir and sending last in first out

I would like to have qmail changed to do a 
sort mailbox by seize and 
send the smallest first.

I've not got round to replying to this one: There may be an easy
solution for you as follows - I've noticed that the order of messages
listed by qmail-pop3d can be altered by touching (Unix
command "touch") the messages in the new/cur directories. I
assume that within a (C) program you could do the same with
open-for-append followed by close.

To perform tricks with this for qmail-pop3d, you can write a small shim to
go between checkpassword and qmail-pop3d which 'touches' [in
your case] all small files in Maildir/new, Maildir/cur before exec-ing
qmail-pop3d as normal. This even works if your varying size files
are distributed across new and cur! I haven't looked at the qmail-pop3d
code, but I assume this is down to 'Cool DJB code' rather than a quirk
of the system I tried it on (Linux).

Hopefully the same can be achieved in your case for other mail
collection mechanisms.

cheers,

Andrew.

PS: Where's

Off-Topic: Maildirs as folders

2000-08-19 Thread Len Budney

I know there is a recurring thread, "Which readers use maildirs as
folders?" The problem is, the answer is always the same: mutt. No
other mailer uses maildirs as local folders, although a few can use
maildirs as incoming mail spools. (If I'm wrong about this, please let
me know!)

Yes, mutt is just fine. However, we emacs users are discriminated
against; switching to mutt is just not acceptable because it means
losing all the rest of emacs's features from our mail reader. Also,
fans of MH are out in the cold; there is no command-line interface for
handling messages in maildir folders.

I believe that the solution is a CLI maildir-enabled mailreader, similar
in spirit to MH (but without any defects). The resulting tools should be
easily imbeddable into things like Emacs mailreaders (GNUs, mh-e, and
brand-new readers).

If anyone is interested in exploring this idea, please send an empty email
to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and follow the directions
in the reply.

If anyone knows of such a project already underway, please let me know at
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

For more information, see http://www.pobox.com/~lbudney/linux/mdmh.html.

Len.

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Re: obtaining TCPREMOTEIP during delivery

2000-08-19 Thread Ben Beuchler

On Fri, Aug 18, 2000 at 11:37:31PM -0500, David Dyer-Bennet wrote:

 Sounds like a header-insert environment variable for qmail-smtpd is in
 order.  Then all the things that run before it, including tcpserver
 and rblsmtpd, could set up stuff in that variable which would become
 headers in the message, and then could be used at the user level for
 maildrop / procmail / autosorting / whatever.  I don't remember
 anybody doing this patch yet; anybody?

That certainly would be an extremely powerful tool.  Useful for all
sorts of things...

Ben

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Re: Queue Time

2000-08-19 Thread richard

On Fri, 18 Aug 2000, Rogerio Brito wrote:
   I was looking for more detains about the mathematical side of
   the things (e.g., what is the measure of "hurt", in your words
   or the cost to which Dan refers?) and like why the optimal
   retry schedule is essentially independent of the actual
   distribution of message delay times. And why did Dan choose a
   quadratic retry schedule and not, say, a cubic one? For some
   convenience?

The abstract of the paper:

Chao-Ju Hou and Kang G. Shin, "Determination of an optimal retry time in
multiple-module computing systems," IEEE Trans. on Computers, Vol. 45, No.
3, pages 374--379, March, 1996

looks relevant, as do the titles of the papers listed at
http://ftp.ust.hk/dblp/db/indices/a-tree/s/Shin:Kang_G=.html

Hope this helps.

RjL




Re: Queue Time

2000-08-19 Thread markd

On Sat, Aug 19, 2000 at 07:42:04PM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Fri, 18 Aug 2000, Rogerio Brito wrote:
  I was looking for more detains about the mathematical side of
  the things (e.g., what is the measure of "hurt", in your words
  or the cost to which Dan refers?) and like why the optimal
  retry schedule is essentially independent of the actual
  distribution of message delay times. And why did Dan choose a
  quadratic retry schedule and not, say, a cubic one? For some
  convenience?
 
 The abstract of the paper:
 
 Chao-Ju Hou and Kang G. Shin, "Determination of an optimal retry time in
 multiple-module computing systems," IEEE Trans. on Computers, Vol. 45, No.
 3, pages 374--379, March, 1996

Well spotted Richard.

I haven't looked at this particular paper, but one of the benefits of all
the ATM development work that the Telcos have done over the last 5 or so
years is the intense focus on scheduling algorithms with an emphasis
on fairness and optimal resource usage (oh, and charging for every
packet at every QOS level). Admittedly it tends to be for very short
lived queues (such as cell queues in an ATM switch), but if you're into
reasonably heavy mathematics then this area is rich in related reading
material. Personally I only recommend it for insomniacs...


Mark.



qmail domain heiarchy

2000-08-19 Thread Barry Smoke

I am the network administrator for a public school system in ARkansas.
We have just implemented a single qmail mail server for the
districtwhich consists of 8 schools, on 5 different site locations.  our
4 remote elementary schools have 384K dedicated internet connectionsand
our main campus has a t-1, that feeds 4 schools plus administration.
The new mail system was put on a single domain on an ip for the main campus.
The 4 remote elementaries have different ip numbers/subnet masks

when their internet connection is outwhich happens often, I would like
for local e-mail delivery to still work, while all remote messages are put
in que.   when the connection comes up, messages are senttransparently.
i would like to do this without running other domains
Each remote site...(and the main campus for that matter) is connected to a
transparent masquerading proxy (firewall) serveris this possible...maybe
with port forwardingfirewall rules...runing a qmail server on each local
proxy?

I don't have a clue where to start with this.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Barry Smoke
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Network Administrator
Bryant Public Schools




relay-ctrl

2000-08-19 Thread Clemens Hermann


Hi,

after having successfully set up qmail I really start loving it  ;-).
The only way to get it secure for my purpose seemed to be a smtp after
Pop implementation. So I downloaded the relay-ctrl-2.0.tar.gz package
and installed it as described.
I changed the following lines in defines.h:

RULESDIR  "/etc"
TCPRULES  "/usr/local/bin/tcprules"
SMTPRULES "tcp.smtp"
SMTPCDB   "tcp.smtp.cdb"

I use POP3D via tcpserver and tcpserver with qmail-smtp. Everything
works fine locally.

When I pop the server, the IP of the client gets listed correctly in
/var/spool/relay-ctrl.
But it is not pssible to send any Mail wit a foreign adress even if the
adresse is listed there.

Thanks for any Help

Clemens



Re: qmail domain heiarchy

2000-08-19 Thread John White

On Sat, Aug 19, 2000 at 12:22:12PM -0500, Barry Smoke wrote:
 I am the network administrator for a public school system in ARkansas.
 We have just implemented a single qmail mail server for the
 districtwhich consists of 8 schools, on 5 different site locations.  our
 4 remote elementary schools have 384K dedicated internet connectionsand
 our main campus has a t-1, that feeds 4 schools plus administration.
 The new mail system was put on a single domain on an ip for the main campus.
 The 4 remote elementaries have different ip numbers/subnet masks
 
 when their internet connection is outwhich happens often, I would like
 for local e-mail delivery to still work, while all remote messages are put
 in que.   

Who is they?  The remote schools?  All connections?  How "dedicated"
is a connection which is often down?

 when the connection comes up, messages are senttransparently.

Sent where?  You only have a single qmail server, right?

 i would like to do this without running other domains
 Each remote site...(and the main campus for that matter) is connected to a
 transparent masquerading proxy (firewall) serveris this possible...maybe
 with port forwardingfirewall rules...runing a qmail server on each local
 proxy?

 I don't have a clue where to start with this.

I'm not sure how you want each person at each school to receive mail.
On top of that, I'm unsure about what failure scenario you're 
concerned about.

Can you clear up those points?

John White 



FW: qmail domain heiarchy

2000-08-19 Thread Barry Smoke



-Original Message-
From: Barry Smoke [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Saturday, August 19, 2000 1:34 PM
To: John White
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: qmail domain heiarchy





 when their internet connection is outwhich happens often, I would
like
 for local e-mail delivery to still work, while all remote messages are
put
 in que.

Who is they?  The remote schools?  All connections?  How "dedicated"
is a connection which is often down?

remote schools...
Is any internet connection really up all the time?believe me ...it's
enough to worry about.

I am completely open to suggestion on how to go about this...i explained
everything


 when the connection comes up, messages are senttransparently.

Sent where?  You only have a single qmail server, right?

To the main qmail server at bryant.k12.ar.usyes, at this point a single
qmail server.

I would like to have some sort of system that catches mail to this server,
checks the headers against a list of local users(take one of our elementary
schools for examplea list of 20 teachers on stored on the proxy that the
mail is checked against) if mail matches a user, deliver it to said user via
a qmail process on local proxy.

Basically I'm wondering if I can cluster the main bryant.k12.ar.us qmail
server out with processes on the proxy serversomehow.

If  one node is undetected...no prob...all other mail is delivered
normallyqueued mail is delivered when connection is back up


 i would like to do this without running other domains
 Each remote site...(and the main campus for that matter) is connected to
a
 transparent masquerading proxy (firewall) serveris this
possible...maybe
 with port forwardingfirewall rules...runing a qmail server on each
local
 proxy?

 I don't have a clue where to start with this.

I'm not sure how you want each person at each school to receive mail.
On top of that, I'm unsure about what failure scenario you're
concerned about.

??? pop3, smtplost  internet connection at remote sites...

Can you clear up those points?

John White




RE: yahoo down?

2000-08-19 Thread Al Sparks

According to the 
   http://www.qmail.org
site, Yahoo! is using qmail.
   === Al

--- Brett Randall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 At times, in the past, I've even had bounces saying that a yahoo user
 doesn't exist. An e-mail the day after might go fine, then a few days later
 it'll go astray again...
 
 Definitely a few machines in that bank which need some heart surgery
 
 Perhaps they're using sendmail? :
 
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  From: Ben Beuchler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Saturday, August 19, 2000 11:50 AM
  To: qmail list
  Subject: yahoo down?
 
 
  Is it just my imagination or am I seeing a larger than normal number of
  yahoo.com messages building up in my remote queue?
 
  I've tried a few telnet sessions to port 25 on mx7.mail.yahoo.com and
  sometimes it gets through and sometimes it doesn't...
 
  Annoyed,
  Ben
 
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Re: FW: qmail domain heiarchy

2000-08-19 Thread John White

On Sat, Aug 19, 2000 at 01:52:35PM -0500, Barry Smoke wrote:
 Who is they?  The remote schools?  All connections?  How "dedicated"
 is a connection which is often down?
 
 remote schools...

Ok.
 
 I would like to have some sort of system that catches mail to this server,
 checks the headers against a list of local users(take one of our elementary
 schools for examplea list of 20 teachers on stored on the proxy that the
 mail is checked against) if mail matches a user, deliver it to said user via
 a qmail process on local proxy.

I really just don't understand what you mean here.
 
 Basically I'm wondering if I can cluster the main bryant.k12.ar.us qmail
 server out with processes on the proxy serversomehow.
 
 If  one node is undetected...no prob...all other mail is delivered
 normallyqueued mail is delivered when connection is back up

It sounds like what you might want to do is put a qmail server on
each of the servers at each of the location.  Make the terminal
delivery point for each teacher the qmail server at his location.

It's pretty simple, then, to make a .qmail entry for each teacher
at a remote location, forwarding mail the qmail server for that
location.

For example, if teacherA is at schoolN, this would be put in
bryant.k12.ar.us's mx:

~teacherA/.qmail:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

  i would like to do this without running other domains

Not quite sure what you mean by that.

 I'm not sure how you want each person at each school to receive mail.

 ??? pop3, smtp

Oh, in that case, just have the mail delivered by smtp.  The
teachers can then retrieve their mail via pop3.

I'm asking whether you want teachers at remote locations to
have their mail delivered to a local qmail server so mail
can be retrieved during a network connection outage, or whether
having the mail at a single qmail server which would require
the network connection being up to check mail.

In other words, you seem to have a specific path of delivery
in mind.  What the hell is it?

Hint:

smtp and pop3 are not valid answers.

John White 



RE: relay-ctrl

2000-08-19 Thread Brett Randall

 When I pop the server, the IP of the client gets listed correctly in
 /var/spool/relay-ctrl.
 But it is not pssible to send any Mail wit a foreign adress even if the
 adresse is listed there.

Hi Clemens. It would REALLY help us with more details about this. What does
qmail-stat show? What do the logs show? What is the error? etc...

/BR


Manager
InterPlanetary Solutions
http://ipsware.com/




RE: qmail domain heiarchy

2000-08-19 Thread Brett Randall

We have just implemented a system virtually exactly like this. It took me
about three weeks to research, design, implement and test. I have been
planning on writing a HOWTO but life is just s hectic...

It implements a combination of qmail, fastforward, NIS, NFS, SMTP routing,
and all with a plan of maximum stability and minimum bandwidth. I do have a
fair bit of documentation on it that I've written up for the organisation,
since it is a fairly complex system to set up (but very easy to
maintain...the head of IT loves it!). It is called a REDES...a Reliable and
Efficient Distributed E-mail System, which is made for sharing mail for one
domain around a building, a city (this is what we do), a country, or the
entire globe (although with the latter two security can become an issue
: ). It also supports the ability to forward other domains to their
relevant users in the case of changing domains from older ones in some
locations.

If you are interested in this, please let me know and I'll forward the doco
to you. AND if anybody else is interested in preparing a HOWTO for it,
please let me know (with reasons) and I'll consider it...

/BR


Manager
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http://ipsware.com/


 -Original Message-
 From: Barry Smoke [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Sunday, August 20, 2000 3:22 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: qmail domain heiarchy


 I am the network administrator for a public school system in ARkansas.
 We have just implemented a single qmail mail server for the
 districtwhich consists of 8 schools, on 5 different site
 locations.  our
 4 remote elementary schools have 384K dedicated internet
 connectionsand
 our main campus has a t-1, that feeds 4 schools plus administration.
 The new mail system was put on a single domain on an ip for the
 main campus.
 The 4 remote elementaries have different ip numbers/subnet masks

 when their internet connection is outwhich happens often, I would like
 for local e-mail delivery to still work, while all remote messages are put
 in que.   when the connection comes up, messages are
 senttransparently.
 i would like to do this without running other domains
 Each remote site...(and the main campus for that matter) is connected to a
 transparent masquerading proxy (firewall) serveris this
 possible...maybe
 with port forwardingfirewall rules...runing a qmail server on
 each local
 proxy?

 I don't have a clue where to start with this.
 Any help would be greatly appreciated.
 Barry Smoke
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Network Administrator
 Bryant Public Schools





Re: yahoo down?

2000-08-19 Thread Ben Beuchler

On Sat, Aug 19, 2000 at 01:30:22PM -0700, Al Sparks wrote:

 According to the 
http://www.qmail.org
 site, Yahoo! is using qmail.

I believe they use it for their outbound queue, but apparently not for
their inbound mail.

Ben

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qmail-lint?

2000-08-19 Thread Russell Nelson

Tim Jones writes:
  The installation appears good -- qmail-lint reports no problems.

How many other newbies use qmail-lint?  I"m wondering if I should
change it so that it "enforces" the use of ucspi-tcp and daemontools.
It's just so much easier to get working, even though it makes for more
programs to download, compile, and setup.

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Re: converting tai64n to something readable

2000-08-19 Thread Russell Nelson

Ben Beuchler writes:
  Yeah, I seem to have a mental glitch lately that tells my fingers to
  type "it's" in all the wrong places.

It's hard to get right.

  I've read the doc you mention.  I found it rather tough to follow.  I
  just received some info from Russ that I think is unlocking my mental
  block for me, so it may make some sense for me by tomorrow.

That would be Allbery, I'm guessticating.

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Re: obtaining TCPREMOTEIP during delivery

2000-08-19 Thread Russell Nelson

Ben Beuchler writes:
  It appears that $TCPREMOTEIP is only available to qmail-smtpd.  It is no
  longer in the environment during final message delivery.

No, but you can get the same information from parsing the Received:
headers:

while() {
last if /^$/;
$address = $2 if /^Received:.*\((.*\@)?(\d+\.\d+\.\d+\.\d+)\)/;
$ip = $address if /^  by (192\.203\.178\.\d+|\w+.crynwr.com) with SMTP;/;
}

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Re: qmail and IP addresses.....

2000-08-19 Thread Russell Nelson

Steve Wolfe writes:
 On a machine with multiple IP addresses bound to one NIC, is it possible
  to control which IP address qmail will use for incoming and/or outgoing SMTP
  connections?  For POP3?

Only for incoming, by handing the IP address to tcpserver.

It could be done for outgoing, but nobody has written such a patch.

For what it's worth, Dan Bernstein says that it's frivolous.

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Re: logselect

2000-08-19 Thread Russell Nelson

Ben Beuchler writes:
  On Fri, Aug 11, 2000 at 11:45:58PM -0400, Russell Nelson wrote:
  
   I've released my logselect program as a patch to daemontools-0.70.
  
  I'm sorry if this seems like a silly question, but what is the intended
  uuse for this program?  Remote log retrieval?

Yes.  I've got four customers on support contracts with clustered SMTP
servers who need/want better reporting.  Need to get the log files
over to another machine.  Could use ssh, but it's better (more secure)
to run a program which just transfers log file entries.

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Re: Linux Mandrake qmail packages available

2000-08-19 Thread Russell Nelson

Vincent Danen writes:
  Please, when testing, make sure they comply with
  http://cr.yp.to/qmail/dist.html and
  http://cr.yp.to/qmail/var-qmail.html.  This is the only way they will
  be approved by DJB, so if there are any discrepencies, please let me
  know.

As far as I know, Dan is giving you permission, not conditions for his
approval.  You *already* have his permission to distribute the binary
releases, as long as you abide by the restrictions he imposes.

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