Re: ms-outlook bug

2001-06-09 Thread Tom Beer

Hi,

 I have this about 3 times a month on this account which subscribes to a
lot of
 mailing lists, but only when Norton Antivirus is scanning incoming pop
mail.  I
 guess I could disbale it and then to try to duplicate it.  Is the original
 poster using Norton to scan his incoming mail?

I can confirm problems with OE 5 (latest and pre-latest Version).
This appears on two specific Senders, is not related to a specific
PC and on these PC's aren't any Virusscanners. First I thought it might
be related to a language set (belgium or francophone). But after this
discussion I have to start from scratch

Tom




RE: ms-outlook bug

2001-06-08 Thread Joshua Nichols


 The problem I am referring to is the one where Outlook Express and Outlook
 2000 get stuck while downloading certain messages, supposedly due to a bug
 in the MUA's. (The only solution I heard of is deleting the offending
 message)

I have been using Outlook for ~2-3 years on a vpopmail server, and have
never had a single message cause a problem like this.  In fact, this is the
first I'd ever heard of such a thing.

Currently I'm just using vanilla qmail-pop3d, and in 25,000 or so messages,
I haven't run into such a thing, but I haven't really hit widespread use
yet.



--joshua.





Re: ms-outlook bug

2001-06-08 Thread Roger Merchberger

Rumor has it that Xavier Quesada may have mentioned these words:
Hi...
   Does anybody know of any POP3 server that I can use with qmail+vmailmgr
that doesn't have the Microsoft Outlook  problem?
   Or is there a solution to this problem (that doesn't involve stop using
outlook)?

The problem I am referring to is the one where Outlook Express and Outlook
2000 get stuck while downloading certain messages, supposedly due to a bug
in the MUA's. (The only solution I heard of is deleting the offending
message)

I've done some checking on that bug, and:

1) yes, the bug is in the MUA (but that's no suprise... ;-)

2) it seems to have something to do with how the Received: headers are
wrapping -- I've gone in with insert your favorite *nix text editor here -
mine is Jove and deleted all of the carriage returns on the Received:
headers (so each Received: is on one and only one line) and told the folks
to try downloading their messages again, and then they work fine.

If you had a perl script in the users .qmail file that would re-write the
Received files  dump the file in their $HOME/Maildir/new directory, that
should fix it. [1]

Hope that helps (at least a little...)

Roger Merch Merchberger

[1] I, however, *enjoy* telling folks that their Outlook Express is not the
way to go... altho writing the script would give me some pleasure, I would
lose out on an even larger source of enjoyment... ;-)
--
Roger Merch Merchberger   ---   sysadmin, Iceberg Computers
Recycling is good, right???  Ok, so I'll recycle an old .sig.

If at first you don't succeed, nuclear warhead
disarmament should *not* be your first career choice.



RE: ms-outlook bug

2001-06-08 Thread Hank Wethington

I have no idea what the problem would be... I've been a lookOut user since
lookOut 97, have had to use off and on OE as well (damn I hated those jobs)
and have never encountered this problem. I have seen messages to big to DL
over a 56k line before the server/client timed out, but never an inability
to actually get a message.

You might try upping the timeout limit under the advanced tab, I always have
mine set to the max anyways. If not use webmail to check on the offending
message perhaps its just too big to get before things time out. If you don't
have webmail on the actual server, you can try going to atdot.org (damn,
just checked, its not working any more) or if you know of a webmail that
will log into another pop box, you should be able to check on it that way
and get rid of the offending message.

If this is really an issue, I'd love to see some examples. I use qmail on
all my servers and my clients use lookOut exclusively, and I've never had to
delete a message for them. hmmm.

Hank Wethington
Information Logistics


www.GoInfoLogistics.com
mailto:info.at.GoInfoLogistics.com


-Original Message-
From: Xavier Quesada [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, June 08, 2001 12:10 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: ms-outlook bug


Hi...
Does anybody know of any POP3 server that I can use with qmail+vmailmgr
that doesn't have the Microsoft Outlook  problem?
Or is there a solution to this problem (that doesn't involve stop using
outlook)?

The problem I am referring to is the one where Outlook Express and Outlook
2000 get stuck while downloading certain messages, supposedly due to a bug
in the MUA's. (The only solution I heard of is deleting the offending
message)

Thanks.

Xavier Quesada
Travel Technology South America S.A.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]





Re: ms-outlook bug

2001-06-08 Thread Rick Updegrove

From: Hank Wethington [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 I have no idea what the problem would be... I've been a lookOut user since
 lookOut 97, have had to use off and on OE as well (damn I hated those jobs)
 and have never encountered this problem. I have seen messages to big to DL
 over a 56k line before the server/client timed out, but never an inability
 to actually get a message.

I have this about 3 times a month on this account which subscribes to a lot of
mailing lists, but only when Norton Antivirus is scanning incoming pop mail.  I
guess I could disbale it and then to try to duplicate it.  Is the original
poster using Norton to scan his incoming mail?

 You might try upping the timeout limit under the advanced tab,

Max always, still times out until I access the account with sqwebmail (which
reads maildirs directly I think).

 I always have
 mine set to the max anyways. If not use webmail to check on the offending
 message perhaps its just too big to get before things time out. If you don't
 have webmail on the actual server, you can try going to atdot.org (damn,
 just checked, its not working any more) or if you know of a webmail that
 will log into another pop box, you should be able to check on it that way
 and get rid of the offending message.

 If this is really an issue, I'd love to see some examples. I use qmail on
 all my servers and my clients use lookOut exclusively, and I've never had to
 delete a message for them. hmmm.

I have not been able to track down the offending mesage either, but I have not
tried very hard.


Rick Up