Re: Return address for autoresponder

2001-02-28 Thread David Dyer-Bennet

Mikko Hnninen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Karl Vogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on Sun, 25 Feb 2001:
 If I'm reading the RFCs correctly, the right order is "Reply-to:", then
 "From:", then "Sender:".
 
 How about using the envelope sender (ie. return-path)?
 
 I missed the original message, so maybe this isn't really applicable,
 but in general you should take mailing lists into account.  On most
 mailing lists, including this one, the right return address is not
 found in any of those headers.
 
 Of course, one should try to avoid sending auto-replies to list emails
 at all, but chances are you'll never be able to detect with 100%
 accuracy all list emails, so should count on it happening sometime.

Perhaps; but if so, having the auto-responder *NOT* respond to the
list address is still a win!
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Re: Return address for autoresponder

2001-02-27 Thread Bruno Wolff III

On Sun, Feb 25, 2001 at 04:21:07PM -0500,
 Leander Berwers [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:

 I am writing an auto-responder in Perl. I have been looking for the ones
 publicly available, but I was wondering to what address I have to
 respond to, namely: Do you need to look for Reply-To: first and if that
 header is unavailable look for From:?

It depends on what the auto responder is doing. If it is a delivery status
notification (for example an out of the office reply), then the message
should be sent to the envelope sender address.

If it is an automated reply to a request of some sort, than use
reply-to, from and then sender. If there are resent-* headers present,
then use the resent versions of the previous headers. If none of the
above are provided and you still want to try to reply, then use the
envelope sender address.

You may want to include the original received headers somewhere in the
reply so that it is easier for the recipient to deal with mischief.



Re: Return address for autoresponder

2001-02-26 Thread Karl Vogel

 On Fri, 23 Feb 2001 14:44:08 +0100, 
 Leander Berwers [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:

L I am writing an auto-responder in Perl. I have been looking for the ones
L publicly available, but I was wondering to what address I have to
L respond to, namely: Do you need to look for Reply-To: first and if that
L header is unavailable look for From:?

   If I'm reading the RFCs correctly, the right order is "Reply-to:", then
   "From:", then "Sender:".

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Re: Return address for autoresponder

2001-02-26 Thread Mikko Hänninen

Karl Vogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on Sun, 25 Feb 2001:
If I'm reading the RFCs correctly, the right order is "Reply-to:", then
"From:", then "Sender:".

How about using the envelope sender (ie. return-path)?

I missed the original message, so maybe this isn't really applicable,
but in general you should take mailing lists into account.  On most
mailing lists, including this one, the right return address is not
found in any of those headers.

Of course, one should try to avoid sending auto-replies to list emails
at all, but chances are you'll never be able to detect with 100%
accuracy all list emails, so should count on it happening sometime.


Regards,
Mikko
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Re: Return address for autoresponder

2001-02-26 Thread James R Grinter

Mikko Hänninen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 Of course, one should try to avoid sending auto-replies to list emails
 at all, but chances are you'll never be able to detect with 100%
 accuracy all list emails, so should count on it happening sometime.

My first rule would be never ever send one if you're not in the To
(and possibly Cc - but that's debtable) headers.

That's a method that doesn't have 100% coverage, as some of the
daily-mailings from less-wise operations like Flonetwork (who send the
techweb.com daily mailing) tend to have your address in the To: header
(and they don't put any Precedence headers, or anything that might
give you a clue).

But it's a good start.

James.