Re: running qmail from /supervise
Gerrit Pape wrote: I have svscan /service started from inittab. I have the links for the services in /service and normally do not remove them. Services are started at boot time, no need for init scripts. If I want a service to be down temporary, I use svc -d /service/service. Thats what I mean with 'use svc directly'. I just updated my qmail to the newest RPM provided by Bruce Guenter. In the previous version I had I could start qmail with /etc/rc.d/init.d/qmail start. Now I have to use the svc-commands. After the upgrade I found out that I have both /service and /var/service directories. Svscan is started at the init from /service which has symlinks to /var/qmail/service/SERVICE. Can I remove the /var/service directory? Regards, Peter
running qmail from /supervise
hi I am doing another qmail install and this time I have a /supervise directory for dnscache, so I thought it would make sense to run qmail from there, I am following lwq (most of the time). So I was wondering if anyone had already adapted the lwq start up script to do this, and is it a case of instead of starting supervise in /var/qmail/supervise linking that folder to /supervise? and then removing the link to stop thanks Neil _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
RE: running qmail from /supervise
I am using supervise to run qmail-ldap with OpenLDAP, pop3 and courier-imap. I am using /var/qmail/supervise as my base, but it could be any other place.. /supervise for instance regards, Lucio Jankok : -Original Message- : From: Neil Grant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] : Sent: Monday, March 05, 2001 2:22 PM : To: Qmail mailing list : Subject: running qmail from /supervise : : : hi : : I am doing another qmail install and this time I have a : /supervise directory : for dnscache, so I thought it would make sense to run qmail : from there, I am : following lwq (most of the time). So I was wondering if : anyone had already : adapted the lwq start up script to do this, and is it a case : of instead of : starting supervise in /var/qmail/supervise linking that folder to : /supervise? and then removing the link to stop : : : thanks : : Neil : : : : : _ : Do You Yahoo!? : Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com :
Re: running qmail from /supervise
"Neil Grant" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am doing another qmail install and this time I have a /supervise directory for dnscache, so I thought it would make sense to run qmail from there, I am following lwq (most of the time). So I was wondering if anyone had already adapted the lwq start up script to do this, and is it a case of instead of starting supervise in /var/qmail/supervise linking that folder to /supervise? and then removing the link to stop Assuming you're running svscan on /service (not /supervise) already, e.g. from inittab, you could change the "start" section in the script to: echo -n "Starting qmail" ln -s /var/qmail/supervise/* /service echo "." ;; And the "stop" section to: echo -n "Stopping qmail: qmail-send qmail-smtpd" svc -dx /service/qmail-send /service/qmail-smtpd echo -n " logging" svc -dx /service/qmail-send/log /service/qmail-smtpd/log echo "." ;; And replace /var/qmail/supervise with /service in the rest of the script. -Dave
Re: running qmail from /supervise
On Mon, Mar 05, 2001 at 09:07:19AM -0500, Dave Sill wrote: Assuming you're running svscan on /service (not /supervise) already, e.g. from inittab, you could change the "start" section in the script to: echo -n "Starting qmail" ln -s /var/qmail/supervise/* /service echo "." ;; And the "stop" section to: echo -n "Stopping qmail: qmail-send qmail-smtpd" svc -dx /service/qmail-send /service/qmail-smtpd echo -n " logging" svc -dx /service/qmail-send/log /service/qmail-smtpd/log echo "." ;; Huh, svscan will restart Your supervise processes and services in max 5 seconds. You need to remove the links first, then -dx supervise, if You really want to use such silly initscripts, better use svc directly. Gerrit. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] innominate AG the linux architects tel: +49.30.308806-0 fax: -77 http://www.innominate.com
Re: running qmail from /supervise
"Gerrit Pape" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, Mar 05, 2001 at 09:07:19AM -0500, Dave Sill wrote: Assuming you're running svscan on /service (not /supervise) already, e.g. from inittab, you could change the "start" section in the script to: echo -n "Starting qmail" ln -s /var/qmail/supervise/* /service echo "." ;; I didn't think this through very carefully. I think it'd be better to: touch /var/qmail/supervise/*/down /var/qmail/supervise/*/log/down ln -s /var/qmail/supervise/* /service Once as root, and change the "start" section to: echo -n "Starting qmail" svc -u /service/qmail-send /service/qmail-smtpd svc -u /service/qmail-send/log /service/qmail-smtpd/log echo "." ;; This will make it into LWQ after I've had a chance to test and debug it. And the "stop" section to: echo -n "Stopping qmail: qmail-send qmail-smtpd" svc -dx /service/qmail-send /service/qmail-smtpd echo -n " logging" svc -dx /service/qmail-send/log /service/qmail-smtpd/log echo "." ;; Huh, svscan will restart Your supervise processes and services in max 5 seconds. You need to remove the links first, then -dx supervise, No, I just forgot to remove the "x" flags. Make it: echo -n "Stopping qmail: qmail-send qmail-smtpd" svc -d /service/qmail-send /service/qmail-smtpd echo -n " logging" svc -d /service/qmail-send/log /service/qmail-smtpd/log echo "." ;; if You really want to use such silly initscripts, better use svc directly. What makes this a "silly initscript"? What's the right way to do this stuff in your OS religion? In what way does it not run svc directly? -Dave
Re: running qmail from /supervise
On Mon, Mar 05, 2001 at 09:58:32AM -0500, Dave Sill wrote: "Gerrit Pape" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No, I just forgot to remove the "x" flags. Make it: echo -n "Stopping qmail: qmail-send qmail-smtpd" svc -d /service/qmail-send /service/qmail-smtpd echo -n " logging" svc -d /service/qmail-send/log /service/qmail-smtpd/log echo "." ;; if You really want to use such silly initscripts, better use svc directly. What makes this a "silly initscript"? What's the right way to do this stuff in your OS religion? I have svscan /service started from inittab. I have the links for the services in /service and normally do not remove them. Services are started at boot time, no need for init scripts. If I want a service to be down temporary, I use svc -d /service/service. Thats what I mean with 'use svc directly'. Gerrit. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] innominate AG the linux architects tel: +49.30.308806-0 fax: -77 http://www.innominate.com
Re: running qmail from /supervise
Gerrit Pape wrote: if You really want to use such silly initscripts, better use svc directly. Dave Sill asked: What makes this a "silly initscript"? What's the right way to do this stuff in your OS religion? Gerrit Pape replied: I have svscan /service started from inittab... If I want a service to be down temporary, I use svc -d /service/service. Thats what I mean with 'use svc directly'. Newsflash: some people *like* using scripts that allow for more human-readable (and easier to type) commands like 'qmail stop' and 'qmail pause'. As long as one understands what the script is doing and why, there is no right, wrong, or "silly" way to do it. TEHO. ---Kris Kelley PS: That's the closest I've come to a flame on this list. I feel so dirty...
Re: running qmail from /supervise
thanks Dave, I was on the right lines, I just didnt know any thing about svc. once the links are created to /service it will start automatically on boot up, but if it had been stopped before shutdown (svc -d) - it will need to be 'svc -u' ed on bootup? so qmail(in init.d) should still be linked to the rcx.d/ directories? if qmail was run from /service would it get shutdown properly without your 'qmail stop' stuff? I hope these questions are understandable - its 2am and I am knacked! thanks, Neil _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: running qmail from /supervise
Neil Grant writes: once the links are created to /service it will start automatically on boot up, but if it had been stopped before shutdown (svc -d) - it will need to be 'svc -u' ed on bootup? That is a question? Svc saves no history and sets no state that survives rebooting. so qmail(in init.d) should still be linked to the rcx.d/ directories? No. The only program you need to start various long-running services is svscan. For example, here's my /service directory on my server: axfrdns dnscache ftpd msql2dqmail rsyncdsshd bray etrn httpd pop3d qmtpd smtpd tinydns Most of these are obvious. "bray" is not a service name but instead the name of a friend who needs to have a tcpservice running on a non-root port. So I do this: #!/bin/sh exec setuidgid bray tcpserver -HRl0 0 2379 ~bray/bin/server if qmail was run from /service would it get shutdown properly without your 'qmail stop' stuff? What does "properly" mean? I don't know of any reboot or shutdown program that is going to wait twenty minutes for all the qmail-remotes to exit. If you want it properly shutdown, you must do "svc -d /service /service/*/log", wait for all the servers to exit, and then reboot. -- -russ nelson [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://russnelson.com Crynwr sells support for free software | PGPok | Watch out! He's got an 521 Pleasant Valley Rd. | +1 315 268 1925 voice | opinion, and he's not Potsdam, NY 13676-3213 | +1 315 268 9201 FAX | afraid to share it!
Re: running qmail from /supervise
is svscan. For example, here's my /service directory on my server: axfrdns dnscache ftpd msql2dqmail rsyncdsshd bray etrn httpd pop3d qmtpd smtpd tinydns Most of these are obvious. "bray" is not a service name but instead the name of a friend who needs to have a tcpservice running on a non-root port. So I do this: #!/bin/sh exec setuidgid bray tcpserver -HRl0 0 2379 ~bray/bin/server Nothing wrong with this, but just as an alternative thought, nothing stops users running their own svscan. I have a ~/service and guess how the per-user svscans are started... Regards.
